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https://press.opera.com/2020/03/17/opera-crypto-wallet-easy-top-ups-us/

We need some positive news like this, I'm not a US citizen, however, I think this is another step to purchase BTC much easier using Apple Pay.

They are going to partner with Wyre - US cryptocurrency-brokerage firm, to enable crypto-purchases directly from their browser. They say that it is very easy and you can top up your crypto wallet in 30 seconds, but I don't know if that is true or not though.

This is incredible! This would further expose bitcoin to other users who make use of Apple pay and debit card in having access to bitcoins. As well as crypto users who find it a bit difficult to spend their bitcoins. This new integration would allow the use of bitcoin to be used to pay for goods and services.

Is the built-in wallet open source? If not then avoid using it. Remember what Andreas Antonopoulos always says: "not your keys, not your bitcoins".

Tbh, avoid using Opera, some shady stuff going on with that company lately: https://www.extremetech.com/internet/305149-opera-accused-of-operating-predatory-loan-apps-on-android

Not really, not many people use Opera browser. You can google "browser market share" and you'll see how terrible Opera's numbers are compared to other browsers.

Once I used Opera browser regularly, from Java, Symbian to Android, IOS version! But Opera lost the track and now I can't trust them to continue my using! I saw this feature long ago, but this did not work on my Android! Then I did not bother to try harder! So, I am not that excited about this news.

I tried looking it up but there's no "open-source" reference to it anywhere on DuckDuckGo. I doubt it's open-source too. It looks like they do not have KYC though for now, which is good news. Here's the quote from cryptoiq.co (https://cryptoiq.co/the-opera-browser-now-offers-instant-crypto-purchases-via-apple-pay-and-debit-card/):


If there was a KYC-free open source wallet that allows debit card purchases, it would be amazing. I'm just kinda afraid to use debit cards now, considering the fact that we're in the middle of an economical recession. :)

It looks like the way Opera uses for revitalizing their audience and attracting a narrower blockchain community. I like it :)

Thanks for the info. Well, that's a big red flag. I already posted some of the shady practices Opera have incurred recently, god knows what could happen if you decide to store (hodl) your crypto in this built-in wallet.

Just like they wanted to attract new users a few years ago with their built-in VPN (especially those from the "privacy" community) but the whole thing failed miserably because the VPN is nothing but garbage  ::)

Debit card purchases are big chargeback risks. I don't think that any open-source wallet will intergrate this option.

Is anywhere else this is possible? The best method for buying crypto.

It's a very wise decision for both, commercial purposes and massive crypto adoption. Samsung did great when they decided to offer built in blockchain wallet but more likely that would be limited to samsung's devices but the reason Opera's decision was most wise is that this browser is very popular, is available on windows/linux/mac, on all android and ios devices. This is huge advantage there to have access on your crypto wallet via your browser on smartphone and on any device you carry but of course it has some risks, you have to keep security on high level (everyone should take security on high level in any way).
Very good step in overall and great decision from Opera's team, this is serious signal and will not only boost bitcoin's adoption but also will play great role in bitcoin's history. I guess if opera does this, firefox may follow it and possible chrome too but since this last one is owned by google, they may just ignore this fact.

Users do control their own keys with the Opera wallet (https://www.opera.com/crypto/faq).

The Opera browser is partially open sourced since it's Chrome-based, but most of the UI and presumably the cryptocurrency wallet are not.

I would especially avoid the Android version. The Android wallet relies on the Android keystore system, which has been broken several times:
Android KeyStore crypto key vulnerability affects 86 percent of Android devices (https://www.techtimes.com/articles/9396/20140630/android-keystore-crypto-key-vulnerability-affects-86-percent-of-android-devices.htm)
Android KeyStore Encryption Scheme Broken, Researchers Say (https://threatpost.com/android-keystore-encryption-scheme-broken-researchers-say/119092/)

This is a very nice feature that makes Opera one step ahead of other browsers. If other browsers are trying to copy this model then it is a win-win situation for cryptocurrency industry because not only that you can have more platforms for transaction this also advertises cryptocurrency effectivity for transactions.

This is very good news in such difficult days. A big step forward for all cryptocurrencies and people. We'll wait for more good news and serious steps from such large companies and corporations.

This is exactly what I was missing. Finally, they implemented this feature.

That is good movements from Opera, but I feel not comfortable to use an add-on or anything from the browser because I am too afraid with the malware that might attack the browser. I feel better to buy crypto from the exchanges or another method than buying from the browser, but I don't know what people will choose.

I don't really think that this would make any difference to bitcoin's price especially in the current market where Corona is taking over every market.
Though it's a nice feature and Apple pay supporting it is a big deal but as per the crash in the economy nobody will actually use it.
Despite that, Opera has a low userbase and so this won't make a big difference in the price of bitcoin.

Not everything is about Bitcoin price. It's about the number of channels people can use to get or spend their cryptocurrency. I personally won't use this but for some newbies which use Opera as their main browser, it might attract their interest. In the end, it's about a business trying to get income by allowing their customer to do something easily from their product.

I expect we'll see more of this thing, alongside with Bitcoin/crypto prepaid cards services.

Well that's probably true. Not everything is about bitcoin's price.
So I guess we can consider it an an use case. To be honest Opera doesn't have a large userbase.
In my perspective, Opera should have given the ability to the user to buy and send the crypto to user's personal wallet rather than creating a wallet by Opera itself. It would have save time and effort to Opera and would have saved it maintenance cost while giving it's customer the ability to send the coins to their personal wallet which provides a sense of security.

Not even apple pay , but many countries have now integrated a system where you can buy and sell cryptocurrencies through the normal banking app .
In many countries where the government told banks not to engage in buying and selling of Bitcoins , now the banks after a hard fought war by the cryptocurrencies enthusiasts are allowing buying and selling directly through your wallet .
The wallet is also providing a space to sell your cryptocurrencies and then directly transfer them into your account.
It's way easier for the people to do so.

I don't use Opera but this seems to be a big up for them and is a good way for them to regain back their users that has seen features from other browsers.

As long as it's opening and giving an idea for beginners how they can purchase crypto, it's an addition and giving contribution to the adoption.

This is good information actually but now the user of opera has reduced.

Most people just use google chrome or mozilla even in the US most of them only use safari for browsing stuff.

And other than that OPERA has supported blockchain in long time ago, if I'm not mistaken they have a feature wallet on their browser.

I guess this is one strategy of Opera to bring back their customers?

Specially that cryptocurrencies are slowly getting worldwide attention, they have to jump on the bandwagon. To be honest, I'm an Opera user for about two years now, (on/off though), but I appreciate this kind of 'improvement' in my browsing experience.

Well it is great move from them it is a huge publicity for both opera and crypto.
Now they made it much easier to buy crypto for those who wants to invest in crypto or to start on investing.

Who uses Opera nowadays?
According to W3Counter,Opera has a 2.7% global market share when it comes to PC browsers.
They are not in the Top 10 list of Web browsers. Even Internet Explorer,Safari and Firefox are beating them.
I guess that Opera is the shittiest web browser of them all.I tried to use Opera once,but I wasn't impressed and returned to Firefox and Chrome.
Good for them,if they really want to adopt cryptocurrency payments,but I guess they will implement some fees as well,in order to boost their revenue.
I don't think that Opera will turn into a crypto scam,they are located in Norway.Scandinavian companies are trustworhty.Anyway,I will never use their wallet and browser.

And what about fees? 7-10% as usual?

I heard the news also although I have not use it before since there are many easy ways to buy cryptocurrencies. I know wyre and I have a good trust in them but I hope This won't turn out to another hideout for phishing scam and security compromise. I am interested not only about the conveniency in purchasing crypto but also the security and how safe the private keys of the users

Out of all the browsers out there, I can say Opera is the one doing most for the Crypto space, the rate at which they are trying to bring their users to Crypto is really encouraging, if you check most of their recent update you would see what I am saying, they now have wallet for users though I do not encourage people to stare their money on it, because hard wallet is more secured but it is a step in the right direction

Since it involves credit and debit cards, I will assume a KYC is mandated here?

If it does, I don't see any difference when buying through the local or global exchange.


On the desktop, I can't remember Opera beating IE and Firefox.

And on mobile especially back in the dominance of Symbian OS, I guess using Opera turned into a Handler version isn't counted as a legit stats since it was modified.

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Even though I am not a US citizen, to hear a news like this is actually surprisingly good and doubtful at the same time. We know that many Bitcoin users are also using Apple products. And Opera made the crypto transactions easily from person to person. This definitely increased Bitcoin's popularity and improve its image if used well.

However, we know that there are also loopholes in news involving the web. So I think crypto users would want to hear testimonies regarding this.

US is very strict in terms of crypto currencies so this is a good news to those who live in US so they can easily convert their fiat into crypto that they like to hold or use. Though there is already coinbase that is available in US citizen to buy and exchange crypto currencies but having a lot of option is good so the users can choose what exchange they like to use.

Most of the exchange or wallet that offered this kind of services will differ only in their service fee or transaction fees so it's better for the US citizen to choose wisely the exchange that will give them the less charges while offering the safest security for their money.

This is another huge addition to adoption and will make using Bitcoin and Ethereum a whole lot easier. It’s great to see. I’m sure others will eventually follow and thus increase adoption and the ease to get into Cryptocurrency. It won’t be long before we see competitors joining!

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I once utilized a traditional Opera program from Java, Symbian to Android, iOS form! Be that because it may, the show has lost track and now i can not open up to them to stay utilizing them! I've seen this component quite while back, however it doesn't chip away at at my Android! At that time I did whatever it takes to not attempt excessively! during this way, I'm not so amped up for the news. :) :)

There is KYC with the use of credit and debit cards, even when most of us do not like that type of exposure. But the difference with Opera accepting crypto trades with local exchanges is that using Opera gives a wider publicity than the locals. This is a good development. I know it will cause more people to know about crypto currency.

Still, great news and I think a good move having this adaptation could easily help bitcoin or cryptocurrency. I dont really use this option but having this would be great, Opera should do more improvement comparing other browsers that already have a lot of crypto features.

I don't like KYC  either to this platform I just don't think that information should be shared just because we just cannot easily trust this company.

Also, I see similar topics here :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233438.0

It might be difficult to exempt KYC with the level of transaction, I also think transaction using Apple pay or debit card exempt a level of privacy, buyers identity had already been exposed. Opera mini dont have the publicity and use it enjoyed 10 years ago, I might not see that volume of use they expect. They will also require advert on the browser. It is a good time to exploit investment of the stimulus fund in USA

So this is using Coinbase as the engine? That's very interesting,I've always wondered how much people exactly get "converted" to crypto with efforts like these, I know all effort is a positive effort, just would like to know the specific numbers behind :P

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