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Title: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: Chlotide on April 02, 2020, 11:55:23 PM
This nut job is at it again. But now he's taking the fight to our back yard!

https://bitcoinist.com/satoshi-never-used-bitcointalk-craig-wright/

It's mind boggling how this individual can throw claims like this with so many proof against him. Or did he start to believe the fictions he is blabbering...



Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: Darker45 on April 03, 2020, 02:03:00 AM
Then, again, perhaps this man is never really Satoshi?

Or do we have to repeatedly debunk whatever foolishness this man says?

Actually, I don't even understand why cryptocurrency publications or writers are still dignifying whatever CSW says.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: Bttzed03 on April 03, 2020, 02:23:58 AM
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It's mind boggling how this individual can throw claims like this with so many proof against him. Or did he start to believe the fictions he is blabbering...
For relevance. He is also too deep in his web of lies that he keeps coming up with such claims because he loves the attention.

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Actually, I don't even understand why cryptocurrency publications or writers are still dignifying whatever CSW says.
All they care is a story that they can publish for views/clicks. 



On the bright side, those who reads him might dig up also on the history/beginnings of bitcointalk and finds out that he is really a liar.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: Janation on April 03, 2020, 03:10:56 AM
The more we look at clowns, the more they will make acts.

Let him do what he wants, let him say what he wants. We know what we are doing and we know what we believe in. Satoshi is out there and obviously, he is not the real one. Let him talk, he will be tired of barking in the long run.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: batang_bitcoin on April 03, 2020, 03:13:04 AM
The solution is to just ignore the guy. We knew it already that he's trolling and fake. He will do the cycle to get the attention of everyone whatever he throws, there will always be the media that will write articles that help him to gather the attention. And it's most likely that people who will react to anything he say, he's happy with the result because it's working on his side. He doesn't deserve the attention that we're giving him.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: meanwords on April 03, 2020, 03:16:46 AM
Yup, who would believe this shit? even short-term BSV believers would doubt it at first glance. Just look at how stupid his argument is. If Satoshi didn't use Bitcointalk, then who's account is Satoshi Nakamoto here in the forum then? How come this Satoshi Nakamoto that we believed in are more fundamentally more knowledgeable than the self-proclaimed Faketoshi? it means that he doesn't know what he is talking about because he is not Satoshi Nakamoto himself.

There's just full of holes in his arguments, I wonder how he will get away with this one.

The solution is to just ignore the guy. We knew it already that he's trolling and fake. He doesn't deserve the attention that we're giving him.

To be honest, it's pretty too late to ignore the guy at this point. He is kind of famous now and newbies will likely fall to his scheme if not given enough warnings. Giving him bad rep would surely save those newbies poor souls.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: noorman0 on April 03, 2020, 03:19:44 AM
Of course, because he failed to claim the real Satoshi account and was completely rejected by the community. This also proves that CW is lying if he has never used this forum. How could he search for the history of Satoshi's post if not through this forum as a reference.

In addition, BitcoinSV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2371095) account was in this forum more than 1 year ago. If someone can prove that this account is being controlled by CW, then another ridiculous lie is revealed.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: amishmanish on April 03, 2020, 04:02:38 AM
I so hate this slimeball. Especially when he uses the first-person while addressing Satoshi. Right from his writings in the beginning to the code, Satoshi came across as someone who always had the greater picture in mind. He is an idealistic genius who invented and thoughtfully nurtured bitcoin for the rest of the world.

This slimeball in a suit comes along and talks in the first-person when speaking about Satoshi, it makes my blood boil. Listening to any of the stuff he says on video is excruciating. For anyone who goes through the history of bitcoin available on this forum and elsewhere and for anyone with an iota of respect for the human coordination that went into making all of this a possibility, this worm of a man is an insult. Newbies buy into his scam influenced by the well-marketed sloganeering. Twitter is filled with trolls who fervently believe him, mostly newbie accounts. In August last year, Peter McCormack proposed filing a lawsuit against the slimeball (https://twitter.com/PeterMcCormack/status/1166804784059473922) but looks like it hasn't materialized yet. Isn't it time for such a step?

The scam propagated in the name of Satoshi Vision is stupid yet enticing for the millions of newbies still out in the woods when it comes to bitcoin. This identity theft (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215128.0) should not go unpunished. CSW and his BullShitVision should be called out (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2112829.msg53860249#msg53860249) and dealt with because in the days of twitter, it is easy to generate a mass following by ensuring a core of bought/ misguided shills.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: mk4 on April 03, 2020, 04:05:18 AM
Come on now, at some point we have to stop talking about him right? Funny how everyone hates him with passion but at the same time we're the ones that's giving him relevancy. We're getting played like a damn fiddle.

Relevant thread: How to potentially kill(or at least decrease the relevancy) of coins like BSV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214107)


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 03, 2020, 04:19:11 AM
Come on now, at some point we have to stop talking about him right? Funny how everyone hates him with passion but at the same time we're the ones that's giving him relevancy. We're getting played like a damn fiddle.

never used this forum? it clearly shows that he is really not Satoshi. i guess we need to stop giving him attention as he is always finding a new stunt so people will react on what he says.... ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: pakhitheboss on April 03, 2020, 05:37:21 AM
Unnecessarily give importance to this joke by creating idotic topic has become a regular feature of this thread. Faketoshi himself has no clue about what is happening in this forum. Such statement clearly establishes that he is Faketoshi.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: pooya87 on April 03, 2020, 05:41:30 AM
The solution is to just ignore the guy.

the problem is that we can ignore the scammer but how about everyone else, more specifically the newcomers who may not be fully aware of the nature of his fraud? with all these desperate news sites that will always keep fishing for "hot" news to publish and get some traffic, his nonsense will always remain alive and could fool some people.
either everyone has to ignore him or his scams should be fought.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: bgaf on April 03, 2020, 05:52:47 AM
Wow this guy surely knows how to prove it on the other way around. So what Satoshi here? A ghost? Its gonna be a 1000% that this guy will be sue or even hated for the lies and action he is doing. Instead of focusing on his scam project BSV he dont stop wining on social media and still claiming that he is Satoshi! Get a life, April Fools day already ended and this isnt funny joke anymore. He should have save this for next year April fools.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: Railai on April 03, 2020, 06:01:05 AM
And why you are thinking that Satoshi was using btt? When btt was created btw?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5

Amazing how many people this guy could deceive and how much he won out of it.. What a shame.. We are satoshi


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: joniboini on April 03, 2020, 06:08:43 AM
And why you are thinking that Satoshi was using btt? When btt was created btw?

Read old threads. You'll find various posts from satoshi, Hal, etc. Don't let people fool you.

Unnecessarily give importance to this joke by creating idotic topic has become a regular feature of this thread.

Can't help it if newcomers fall for this petty trick. Just like pooya said, either fight it or everyone should ignore it. CW is 'loved' by the media, which makes his jokes are spreading faster than expected.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: davis196 on April 03, 2020, 06:18:50 AM
This nut job is at it again. But now he's taking the fight to our back yard!

https://bitcoinist.com/satoshi-never-used-bitcointalk-craig-wright/

It's mind boggling how this individual can throw claims like this with so many proof against him. Or did he start to believe the fictions he is blabbering...



This makes me think that Craig Wright is an "attention whore".The guy is just desperate for attention.
If we ignore him,he will do something insane just to get our attention.This is pathological behavior.
The "sensationalist" crypto news websites will always publish his gibberish.He is the clown in the village.
According to Wikipedia,Satoshi created this forum back in 2009.
If Satoshi never used Bitcointalk,then who is the creator of Bitcointalk?


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: skiorf on April 03, 2020, 06:56:47 AM
Ignore this man, he just wants to get other people's attention to make him more known.

The claims he made were all bullshit and could not be proven with valid evidence. All must ignore CSW, do not leave room in our minds for him. He is just a big scammer who has no original claim to the creation of Bitcoin.

Satoshi Nakamoto Remain there and have an account on Bitcointalk, but we can be sure it is not CSW.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: xen1oph on April 03, 2020, 07:02:07 AM
The news site, hoping to earn some hate clicks, publishes a provocative article. How fresh. Should we really pay attention to this?


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: minairia3 on April 03, 2020, 07:19:17 AM
This is why not all publisher on crypto news are legit. This site has been proven to publish already many fake news. Also they publish before about many fuds on different project and even fake ones. Who would believe CW saying? Articles like this should not be publish, social media has a lot of crap platform. I am sure many will be intrigue by this and create another fud score for btc.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: hermawan9416 on April 03, 2020, 08:05:04 AM
Only madmen or conspiracy theorists believe Craig. And the journalists just laugh at him.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: acroman08 on April 03, 2020, 09:02:53 AM
This nut job is at it again. But now he's taking the fight to our back yard!

https://bitcoinist.com/satoshi-never-used-bitcointalk-craig-wright/

It's mind boggling how this individual can throw claims like this with so many proof against him. Or did he start to believe the fictions he is blabbering...



what can you expect from a narcissist and a pathological liar? he will say everything he has to say in order to stay relevant or gain the attention of the bitcoin community. there is too much evidence to say that he is not Satoshi and even lost his case to the court yet he still continues to claim that he is satoshi. to be honest, people should just stop paying attention to this guy so he would start fading and be forgotten forever.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: dex1 on April 03, 2020, 09:08:08 AM

I would like to draw attention of venerable participants of this discussion to the very date of the publication (https://bitcoinist.com/satoshi-never-used-bitcointalk-craig-wright/) and then OP mark the topic [SOLVED].



Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: Reid on April 03, 2020, 09:14:35 AM
The more we look at clowns, the more they will make acts.

Let him do what he wants, let him say what he wants. We know what we are doing and we know what we believe in. Satoshi is out there and obviously, he is not the real one. Let him talk, he will be tired of barking in the long run.

There is a good thing here.
He makes us laugh.

Where can we contact him to just thank him for making some good jokes in times of crisis about the virus?
Perhaps we could also share some contribution for his medical needs and maybe a little help for paying his psychiatrists.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: bhabygrim on April 03, 2020, 09:17:38 AM
Another joke from the famous clown of crypto community.
Might as well tell as that Satoshi never have Bitcoin nor used it  :P .
We don't need to pay any attention to his claims we are aware that he is fake and would say anything he wants just to get attention.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: XCANA on April 03, 2020, 09:34:01 AM
If everyone would put this snob behind ignore button life would be more better than what we have. Good to hear and know that many still not ignored this. If Satoshi never used this Bitcointalk then who created this forum? and the one created before this?,  how come there's an account that bear the said name Satoshi?

Personally am not dumped and can't be one of them either because am just a different breeding. Stop acclaiming to yourself the glory of a good guy Craig Wrigth.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: pooya87 on April 03, 2020, 09:43:06 AM
I would like to draw attention of venerable participants of this discussion to the very date of the publication (https://bitcoinist.com/satoshi-never-used-bitcointalk-craig-wright/) and then OP mark the topic [SOLVED].

haha, good point. i personally never click on such links because i believe we should never contribute to the traffic of such shitty sites that keep publishing garbage articles about a known scammer and knowingly or not help his scam.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: Ucy on April 03, 2020, 10:00:26 AM
I guess if he continue repeating this, some may begin to believe him... especially those who have no real interest in Crypto and its principles.
People who have their mind fixed on the real thing will easily spot the lies/fakes.

Be suspicious when an admired inventor of open source/transparent tech all of a sudden becomes pro closed/opaque tech and start hating on the real thing. People who truely believe in open source will easily spot the contradiction. while those who are after money alone won't care that much.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: BuNga_cute on April 03, 2020, 10:01:20 AM
Craig Wright always makes sensations, I get fed up of all the news related to Craigs Wright. Because of all the news related to him,
there is not a single truth that comes out of his mouth. All crypto communities cannot be affected by his words, because they have
a lot of strong evidence that shows that satoshi nakamoto has an account on the bitcointalk forum and was active in this forum.
So who was fooled by craig wright most newbies who are new to the world of cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: Free1bitco.in on April 03, 2020, 11:05:01 AM
The more we look at clowns, the more they will make acts.

Let him do what he wants, let him say what he wants. We know what we are doing and we know what we believe in. Satoshi is out there and obviously, he is not the real one. Let him talk, he will be tired of barking in the long run.
I just didn't expect that there were so many statements made by him but they were against the real Satoshi. Well, it's quite funny, when this forum started with Satoshi, and it became a number of founding accounts, and then he denied that he never used his Bitcointalk account. how cute. I don't think Satoshi will ever embarrass him.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: moonblocks on April 03, 2020, 11:31:50 AM
The attempts to copyright any elements of Bitcoin was laughable ::)


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: 20kevin20 on April 03, 2020, 02:49:26 PM
I was just going to write a thread about this and then I thought I should first look whether someone has done it before me and apparently yes :D

I'm honestly sorry to bump this thread again - I know there have been so many posts out here about CSW and I am sick of them just like you are. But I popped up the news about crypto and I found his blog post about this .. I think this is becoming too funny and idiotic already.

We've had CSW lie a gazillion times. We've had him forge documents in court. We've had him contradict himself X times. We've had him say Bitcoin forks stole his work and that BitcoinShitV is the real Satoshi vision, literally contradicting what Satoshi said Bitcoin should be. We've had enough, haven't we..? Well, apparently not.. CSW always has something to surprise us with :D

I'm not even sure what the hell to say anymore about it.. Let's analyze just a very little bit this blog post because I first laughed but now it's giving me a huge headache..

Below, all quotes you see are taken from his own blog (https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/satoshi-never-posted-on-bitcointalk/) (archived (http://)).



First of all, he said that "The Wayback Machine is not perfect, far from it, and it can be gamed". Exactly after these words, he gives us a few Wayback Machine links. Moreover, just a few paragraphs under this quote, he says the following:

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The migration was done in multiple steps. First came the move from the original subsite:

https://web.archive.org/web/20110401171747/http://bitcointalk.org/index.php; to a GitHub repository:

https://web.archive.org/web/20110923151638/http://bitcointalk.org/index.php.

It was then moved onto a completely new server:

https://web.archive.org/web/20110713083033/http://forum.bitcoin.org/.

Someone enlighten me. How do you say the Wayback Machine can be gamed and then show us "proof" of your own statements? If the Wayback Machine can be gamed, can't you "game it" to your own advantage, mr. Shit Wrong?

And now, going back to the first paragraph... "Satoshi (I) never used Bitcointalk." - Doesn't that mean that he has just proved we all have been right all this time and CSW is not our Satoshi? :D


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: dothebeats on April 03, 2020, 04:22:44 PM
There doesn't seem to be any weight to CSW's claims anymore. Seeing how the dude literally transcended beyond liars and schemers, right now he's just doing it for the attention again since any news regarding him has been overshadowed by any other important world events that doesn't need him nor any of his presence. To think that most of satoshi's first instructions on bitcoin was found here on this very forum, alongside the fact that one the very first miners, Hal Finney himself used this forum to communicate with satoshi already seals CSW's case.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: hv_ on April 03, 2020, 04:48:24 PM
The solution is to just ignore the guy.

the problem is that we can ignore the scammer but how about everyone else, more specifically the newcomers who may not be fully aware of the nature of his fraud? with all these desperate news sites that will always keep fishing for "hot" news to publish and get some traffic, his nonsense will always remain alive and could fool some people.
either everyone has to ignore him or his scams should be fought.

Noobs getting scammed into Segwit, so what is the point?

Sure, you all want ppl who debunking that marked as scammers. Wtf


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: kryptqnick on April 03, 2020, 04:48:39 PM
The solution is to just ignore the guy.

the problem is that we can ignore the scammer but how about everyone else, more specifically the newcomers who may not be fully aware of the nature of his fraud? with all these desperate news sites that will always keep fishing for "hot" news to publish and get some traffic, his nonsense will always remain alive and could fool some people.
either everyone has to ignore him or his scams should be fought.
Yeah, I don't think it's right to dismiss him. Newcomers are one thing, but there's actually a minority of quite old members of the forum that also believe that Craig in the true Satoshi. So it's really important not to make it seem that this is the opinion of the majority, and it might seem this way if we all just keep silent.
What this guy says is getting more and more ridiculous. And I can't believe he hasn't been sued yet for faking the evidence in front of the judge and not fulfilling the requirements of giving half of the Tulip Trust money to Kleiman's family.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: vintages on April 03, 2020, 05:03:57 PM
How about we stop giving him cheap publicity here :-\ Bitcoin enthusiast should learn to start ignoring him.
The guy is always looking for means to always to trend, reason why he is up in the game of formulating stories ::)


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: hatshepsut93 on April 03, 2020, 05:24:28 PM
How about we stop giving him cheap publicity here :-\ Bitcoin enthusiast should learn to start ignoring him.
The guy is always looking for means to always to trend, reason why he is up in the game of formulating stories ::)

I used to think so too, and it's still a good idea to not create new threads about him, but at this point it's too late to try to ignore him since he got famous. If it was in the earlier stages of his "career", then ignoring him would be the best approach, but now we should focus on debunking him instead. This way newcomers will have higher chances to view his for what he is instead of accidentally joining his cult.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: Chlotide on April 03, 2020, 06:26:15 PM
This is why his lies find some ears to hear them...
Because he starts with true facts and then derails.

Satoshi did not use bitcointalk.org - that I can believe.

At first the forum was on bitcoin.org (bitcoin.org/smf and then forum.bitcoin.org)
Then it was moved to bitcointalk.org in 2011, so after satoshi disappeared

After that he claims that (and here he starts to derail) in the migration process satoshi's posts (his - cought-) were doctored by staff.

Says that archive sites can be doctored but used one of them (wayback machine) to make the same point.

I would love to actually see his every word debunked. So threads here will analyse and put to rest any lies he will spread.
Maybe it's time to fight the idiot monster, not lock him in the closet.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: 20kevin20 on April 03, 2020, 06:44:16 PM
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I would love to actually see his every word debunked. So threads here will analyse and put to rest any lies he will spread.
Maybe it's time to fight the idiot monster, not lock him in the closet.

Use your time to do something useful. I've wasted enough of my own time to debunk his bullshit, don't waste yours too. Probably +50% of the words coming out of his mouth are plain BS.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: fiulpro on April 03, 2020, 06:47:24 PM
The courts are also tired of the things he is doing .
His funny accusations are not entertaining enough for the court anymore and they are going to file complain against him soon .
People have stopped taking him seriously , even if there was someone who used to respect him , now there are none.
One should understand that , if he is Satoshi he does not need to actually be this worked up about something that he was actually hiding since forever.
Just ignore him .


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: Chlotide on April 03, 2020, 06:58:21 PM
One should understand that , if he is Satoshi he does not need to actually be this worked up about something that he was actually hiding since forever.

I guess some sort of streisand effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect)

Just ignore him

I guess you're right...
Sorry for bringing it up then. Will lock a bit later


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on April 03, 2020, 07:41:18 PM
You guys are getting emotional. Even Craig Wright knows that he'll never be able to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto (because he is not the real Satoshi, as simple as that). His real intention is to sow seeds of doubt in the mind of cryptocurrency users, so that he can promote his shitcoin (Bitcoin SV) and get rich by triggering a pump-and-dump cycle for the BSV. If you remember, he already managed one cycle almost a year ago.


Title: Re: Satoshi never used bitcointalk: Craig Wrigth
Post by: Blackdeath on April 03, 2020, 07:55:32 PM
You guys are getting emotional. Even Craig Wright knows that he'll never be able to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto (because he is not the real Satoshi, as simple as that). His real intention is to sow seeds of doubt in the mind of cryptocurrency users, so that he can promote his shitcoin (Bitcoin SV) and get rich by triggering a pump-and-dump cycle for the BSV. If you remember, he already managed one cycle almost a year ago.
Indeed. The only intention of Craig Wright is to become popular and famous to every crypto users because as the founder of BSV or Bitcoin SV he needs to promote his own coin to gain investors, that is why it doesn't matter to him if he can't convince us that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto, as long he can advertise his own coin it is fine to him.