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Title: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: naaimmd on April 15, 2020, 03:45:45 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: palle11 on April 15, 2020, 03:52:21 PM
The whole scenario leaves one in doubt on what really is the cause, reason and problem. The economy power is changing with China now dominating sales of health materials on covid-19 in Africa especially. The dynamics is changing, who knows how it will all play out.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: jackg on April 15, 2020, 04:02:32 PM
If we're talking about gdp, China have a far way to go.

It might be important to note that I think apple are moving taxable operations back to the US from the Irish Republic so we might see their gdp go up quite a bit if other companies follow too.

China always had a high number of exports before now, everything used to be produced in China and since they became in to getting more money (or having their reputation drop) more things I've noticed here are being assembled in the EU from being printed in China, Bangladesh or Thailand.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Findingnemo on April 15, 2020, 04:08:43 PM
China is already the manufacturing hub of this world, even when there is no trace of corona on countries other than China they faced issue on the supply chain so after this, they will hold more power in the manufacturing industries and also yes they will be considered as supernation as well.

But America is doing something to hold their position and many people not aware of it.

Have you heard of moon mining? Rare earth elements!


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 15, 2020, 04:21:01 PM
Trump is trying to get the US reopened as soon as possible, which should limit the economic hit it's going to take (though who knows if it's too soon as far as the outbreak is concerned), and I don't think the US in general is going to get killed economically when all is said and done.  So if that's the case, I don't think China will end up more dominant than it already is--but that scenario certainly could happen.  China is a huge country with a lot of citizens and a booming economy.

Also, I think this "crisis" is going to end up being shorter than most people realize.  It seems like life has changed permanently around the world, but this isn't going to last forever.  I don't even think it's going to last more than a few more months, but we'll see.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: mu_enrico on April 15, 2020, 04:36:33 PM
we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
Who said that? CCP propaganda networks? With globalization, all markets are connected, so they will also experience revenues decrease.

Anyway,

As supreme President Trump said, the Chinese become dominant because they gamed the WTO to include them as a developing country.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-14/here-s-what-it-means-to-be-a-wto-developing-country-quicktake

Moreover, they have made the US angry with the coronavirus and WHO scandal. With that in mind, we should pray there will be no WWIII.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Paycoinzzz on April 15, 2020, 04:37:45 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
That is possible in the future. The prospect will be very bad for the United States if Trump is no longer president in the next term. he is one of the most economically competent presidents in the United States and he has done a good job of doing his job. But the virus has devastated his efforts for four years and the US economy has begun to have major problems as public debt is growing. If this pandemic fails to stop in the US in 2 months, then the economic crisis will surely occur soon. In my opinion, China should also help the US during this period because the virus leak is from China.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Chrystora123 on April 15, 2020, 04:56:58 PM
I still remember what happened a few years ago Chinese immigrants buy a lot of dairy products in Australia so that there is a scarcity of goods, with goal Chinese dairy products, can be sold in Australia. (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-26/daigou-chinese-personal-shopping-$1-billion-industry/9671012)  I strongly believe that bad intentions will certainly be carried out by China as long as "PANDEMIC" spreads, I am very supportive from the very beginning China must subject international sanctions..  I hope China will not achieve China's goal of controlling the world economy, and hopefully, the United States will remain strong..

Pray for Europe, the United States and the rest of the world affected by COVID-19


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: $crypto$ on April 15, 2020, 05:40:21 PM
I still remember what happened a few years ago Chinese immigrants buy a lot of dairy products in Australia so that there is a scarcity of goods, with goal Chinese dairy products, can be sold in Australia. (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-26/daigou-chinese-personal-shopping-$1-billion-industry/9671012)  I strongly believe that bad intentions will certainly be carried out by China as long as "PANDEMIC" spreads, I am very supportive from the very beginning China must subject international sanctions..  I hope China will not achieve China's goal of controlling the world economy, and hopefully, the United States will remain strong..

Pray for Europe, the United States and the rest of the world affected by COVID-19
You could say this is a strategy of China to control the entire world economy and make America all the more collapse in the economy, but I can't help thinking that this co-19 was made by China to damage the whole world and I say this is purely from viruses that are spread accidentally and not a scientific creation.

It would be very dangerous if the economy would dominate the economy because they would suppress the entire market so that China could arbitrarily control it from China so I hope China does not achieve what it wants it to because something with China will result in economic collapse.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Broly46 on April 15, 2020, 05:47:38 PM
The optimism is very strong, personally I wouldn’t want it to come to this point, it’s not that China are moving forward, but it’s about the rest of the world are going backward, to the point that they’re slowly losing the position even without China moving at all. What sort of crisis are you referring? The market is recovering insanely, there is no crisis to be seem, except self isolation, identity crisis I supposed?


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: avikz on April 15, 2020, 06:08:32 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

Nope! China wouldn't rule the world in economic front. Even though they have the capability, but their credibility in the world market is pretty low. Also China government strongly believes in the centralized power system which made their citi3live under a dictatorship. With this outlook, it's very hard for the remaining world to adopt them. Also post this Covid-19 time, their credibility goes down further!

USA will remain the king in economic front as well as military front while we will see country like India rise up to the level of super power because their policies are more friendly in terms of international relations and cheap labour is in abundance!


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: fiulpro on April 15, 2020, 06:22:20 PM
Certainly not , I do know that the second wave is going to be coming soon but at the same time they will have more control over it .
China have turned out to be the biggest country which is supplying equipments to other countries being affected by the Corona virus , even though China and India had a long history , not a good one at that , the president actually informed the committee that they will think about opening trades with China since most of the things are being imported from there.
I have heard a lot of comments about China but I do think , they have been trying to help where they can , Chinese doctors are going around helping other countries , I do think the situation is Preety good for them on the outside.
Who knows ?
US is not the superpower anymore and even if we might think that the economic situation in China is flourishing , the general public is actually suffering .
It will still take them years to take over the USD.
Since right now 0.14 USD - 1 yuan


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Chrystora123 on April 15, 2020, 06:24:04 PM
snip..
You could say this is a strategy of China to control the entire world economy and make America all the more collapse in the economy, but I can't help thinking that this co-19 was made by China to damage the whole world and I say this is purely from viruses that are spread accidentally and not a scientific creation.
sorry.. I never said that this virus is a Chinese creation, I myself even created a thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236163.msg54113731#msg54113731) that confirms that the COVID-19 (SARS-COV-2 virus) is purely from nature.. what I mean is, hopefully, China doesn't take the opportunity of this "PANDEMIC" to control the world economy, because the COVID-19 Virus has been predicted by scientists to occur in the future, but until now the researchers didn't know where!!



btw.. Do you know why Trump stopped funding for WHO?? the reason is the US is suspicious that "WHO" is conspiring with China, Trump is disappointed with "WHO" who is too defending China and giving heresy consultation to the United States, so that the US population infected with COVID-19 is very severe..


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: figmentofmyass on April 15, 2020, 07:59:26 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

china's economic growth is completely dependent on exports. if the american and european economies shit the bed, who are they gonna sell their goods to? they will take china down with them.

Moreover, they have made the US angry with the coronavirus and WHO scandal. With that in mind, we should pray there will be no WWIII.

trump is desperately trying to deflect blame for american incompetence onto the WHO and china. it's definitely conjuring up belligerent sentiment from westerners, who are eating it up by the spoonful.

i'm seeing calls for military intervention in china now, even from prominent bitcoiners. aaron van virdum (technical editor, bitcoinmagazine) deleted the tweet but he said yesterday "It's time for the CCP to go, isn't it?" and a bunch of his followers chimed in support of american-imposed regime change in china.

people become so rabid so quickly. just feed them a little propaganda and they become flag-waving war hawks.....


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: dothebeats on April 15, 2020, 08:13:35 PM
China is currently making moves of their own to progress as the world's superpower in terms of sheer economic size. They are selling test kits and other necessities to other severely-affected countries of COVID-19 and are continuing their research and drills on the disputed waters of the West Philippine Sea for oil and other natural resources. One can say that this whole thing is an elaborate plan to take over the world's helm as the top economic dog but that's without conclusive and substantial evidence yet. For now, we can see that it is their own economy right now which is robust enough to continue despite having been hit hard by this virus as of late. There's no doubt that they'll take the post, seeing that the US is having too much problems of their own that even their state governors are already cramming to make a decision as to whether they'll open their states for business or not.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: CHENIEN on April 15, 2020, 11:24:53 PM
there is a possibility that China is the first place to be king of all products because of their population increase and definitely, it seems to be more miners compare to the other countries except that they have more fuel and oil which is available to use their equipment, through it, the production process is really fast and more people are surprised by their sudden gain from which is obviously that almost all products to be used in our country has made in the Republic of China.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: squatz1 on April 16, 2020, 12:16:14 AM
If we're talking about gdp, China have a far way to go.

It might be important to note that I think apple are moving taxable operations back to the US from the Irish Republic so we might see their gdp go up quite a bit if other companies follow too.

China always had a high number of exports before now, everything used to be produced in China and since they became in to getting more money (or having their reputation drop) more things I've noticed here are being assembled in the EU from being printed in China, Bangladesh or Thailand.

Ya have a source on this? I know that Apple was repatriating some money -- maybe in the realm of $50-100b or so due to the tax law changes which they thought were worthwhile to bring money back. Though I don't think they're going to bring ALL on the book operations back to the US. If they do, all that means is that the US government is going to have more tax funds and the lawyers at Apple have decided it makes the most economic sense to do as they need the cash here ASAP.

If not: They don't need the cash here and they foresee another tax change or repatriation period sometime soon.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: philipma1957 on April 16, 2020, 12:21:51 AM
Trump is trying to get the US reopened as soon as possible, which should limit the economic hit it's going to take (though who knows if it's too soon as far as the outbreak is concerned), and I don't think the US in general is going to get killed economically when all is said and done.  So if that's the case, I don't think China will end up more dominant than it already is--but that scenario certainly could happen.  China is a huge country with a lot of citizens and a booming economy.

Also, I think this "crisis" is going to end up being shorter than most people realize.  It seems like life has changed permanently around the world, but this isn't going to last forever.  I don't even think it's going to last more than a few more months, but we'll see.

US will pull plants out of China

use india and mexico more.

maybe thailand and philippines.

china will take a hit on manufacturing goods for other companies in other countries.

the interesting thing will be does iPhone drop and hauwei phone increase?

This virus 🦠 shows a lot of world wide weakness in supply chains ⛓. It will be interesting to see how things shift about.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Lorence.xD on April 16, 2020, 03:11:06 AM
The reason that they are spearheading the economy right now is because they are the first to recover in pandemic, they are also a leading producer of many commodities so it is not questionable that they are getting a good money out of it. Another thing is that they also bought a lot stocks when the prices are downed so that sure gives an advantage. The other thing about it is that they will not become an economy leader in awhile but if their conquest to complete the new global trade route then they will surely become one.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Subbir on April 16, 2020, 03:49:47 AM
I think China can control the planet because the king of the economy after the crisis is over when China's crisis has come in check and therefore the Chinese economy is going to be fed. China can help the entire country overcome this crisis. China will lead the economy of each country they're going to help one another to stop this crisis.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Darker45 on April 16, 2020, 04:18:55 AM
China is indeed making money out of this crisis. A whole lot of countries, both highly developed and developing ones, had nothing else to turn to but to China for their supplies of masks, COVID-19 testers, ventilators, and so on. The manufacturing companies of these goods are now operating 24/7 to meet up with the huge global demand. However, many of these equipment failed or were dysfunctional. Moreover, a lot of massive orders are not met on time. These are some of the reasons why some countries are now trying to produce them on their own rather than rely them on a single country.

I guess this is representative of how the world will adjust more after this crisis. So I don't agree that this crisis will really propel China to the top. The world must have seen how the China-centric production of goods are highly disadvantageous. Earlier, when the lockdown was only focused in China, the entire supply of the world's goods are already severely affected. That is why I am seeing a more dispersed manufacturing and production of raw products in the years after this crisis. 


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Shasha80 on April 16, 2020, 05:57:58 AM
If we look at the economy now, China is more profitable indeed. Because the conditions of the American and European economies
are getting worse.Especially with regard to the co-19 pandemic issue, China looks more ready to face it. Even China is now actively
selling health equipment related to the corona virus to several countries. China's economy is also more stable than other countries.
So I am not surprised that China will control the world economy after the crisis is over.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: mindrust on April 16, 2020, 06:14:20 AM
China certainly looks like the winner of this event but the question is... will the US allow that? When you have a president like Trump, I can't be sure about that.

If the US don't find a way to block China's advancement, In 10 years USA will be country like France. Only talk, some manufacturing but no real action.

Russia have the action. China too. That's a solid lose for the US.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: maydna on April 16, 2020, 06:25:54 AM
I think that will depend on how China can rise after the crisis end, and how China can moves. But the fact is much product from China has been sent to any country. And we know that China is trying to rule the world in the economic field. But China will not go as easily with what they want because another big country like the USA will do many things to hold their moves. I think there will be another trade war between China and USA because each big country wants to be the king in many fields. But let's see what will happen later as we don't know when this crisis will end.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: bittraffic on April 16, 2020, 06:26:44 AM
Trump is trying to get the US reopened as soon as possible, which should limit the economic hit it's going to take (though who knows if it's too soon as far as the outbreak is concerned), and I don't think the US in general is going to get killed economically when all is said and done.  So if that's the case, I don't think China will end up more dominant than it already is--but that scenario certainly could happen.  China is a huge country with a lot of citizens and a booming economy.

Also, I think this "crisis" is going to end up being shorter than most people realize.  It seems like life has changed permanently around the world, but this isn't going to last forever.  I don't even think it's going to last more than a few more months, but we'll see.

US will pull plants out of China

use india and mexico more.

maybe thailand and philippines.

china will take a hit on manufacturing goods for other companies in other countries.

the interesting thing will be does iPhone drop and hauwei phone increase?

This virus 🦠 shows a lot of world wide weakness in supply chains ⛓. It will be interesting to see how things shift about.

China's politics isn't as bad as the countries you wish to put the plants on. In China only the government will ask a percentage but put it in countries where politics are the worse, thy will rekt these plants down to its knees and still ask for more which is exactly the reason why they decide to put them on China.

Its best to just put in on their US soil and give the opportunity back to the US citizen. Unfortunately, some of these company's stocks are also owned by Chinese already.





Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: davis196 on April 16, 2020, 06:43:59 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

With or without coronavirus pandemic,it was expected that China will become world's biggest economy after a few years.The pandemic might speed up this process,after the western economies are seeing a decline.
But in terms of wealth of the population,China will never beat USA and Europe.
If Trump wins a second presidency,he will most likely impose new and higher import tariffs for Chinese goods,this might hit the Chinese economy.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: AniviaBtc on April 16, 2020, 06:46:41 AM
Trump is trying to get the US reopened as soon as possible, which should limit the economic hit it's going to take (though who knows if it's too soon as far as the outbreak is concerned), and I don't think the US in general is going to get killed economically when all is said and done.  So if that's the case, I don't think China will end up more dominant than it already is--but that scenario certainly could happen.  China is a huge country with a lot of citizens and a booming economy.

US is suffering from a downward movement in their stock market and economy these days, the number of cases in their country is still rapidly multiplying and the government has nothing to do with that. Let's accept the fact that Trump is not a good leader and can't handle this pandemic properly as he is just panicking about these Covid-19 disease.

China will become more dominant, it is too obvious that this pandemic is started by them, we have no strong evidence yet that this is intentional but there are articles related to the biolab that is rumored to be the origin of the virus. I think that this is their strategy to become dominant in stock market and economically without any war.

Also, I think this "crisis" is going to end up being shorter than most people realize.  It seems like life has changed permanently around the world, but this isn't going to last forever.  I don't even think it's going to last more than a few more months, but we'll see.

The effect and disaster that this pandemic brought to us is already in the history, although it is not completely done and still there's no vaccine, the history is continuously progressing. It will never bring back the lives that this virus took from humanity, the economy, the fear and anxiety it brings to people. But I know that most of us will moved on after this and go back to normal when the cure is already invented.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: shoreno on April 16, 2020, 06:53:37 AM
that is because they are the first country that recovered but wait till other country recover too and start working again.

i just dont know if what rank was china based before but its possible that it can return to its original position soon    . the question should be china is now the king but does that really matter  ? i know china still do something to help other country . so we people must be thankful to them and not bashing them secretly  but i believe they already know if what other countries are thinking with them  .


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on April 16, 2020, 07:15:49 AM
This virus is serious, but it's not a plague that is going to devastate nations, it will all be over in a few months and economies will start start recovering. The global economy is not as fragile as you might think, something very-very big needs to happen to bring forth the doomsday scenario that people here like to talk about. The coronavirus isn't such thing.

Moreover, they have made the US angry with the coronavirus and WHO scandal. With that in mind, we should pray there will be no WWIII.

trump is desperately trying to deflect blame for american incompetence onto the WHO and china. it's definitely conjuring up belligerent sentiment from westerners, who are eating it up by the spoonful.

I mean, China is responsible for this shit, since they close their eyes on their wet markets, which are responsible for this and other pandemics, but Trump is also responsible for many unnecessary deaths in the US.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: abhiseshakana on April 16, 2020, 08:27:43 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

As a matter of fact, in terms of the Chinese economy, it has dominated trade and finance through its OBOR program. China is now advancing its military technology so that it can legitimize its economic dominance which also will in several decades increase its dominance of influence. Even though the United States currency war still dominates with its dollar, China has begun to echo the Yuanization by adding gold stocks in its foreign exchange reserves, besides that the dollar will slowly lose its hegemony if Islamic countries return to use dinars, dirhams or community currencies with gold collateral.

Warfare between China and the United States is a warfare between two major cultures namely China and the power behind the United States (the shadow). To show "who really controls the world, the shadow is always looking for enemies.

China with doctrine & belief that they are a great nation to count the plan shadows to change the world pendulum Industrial revolution will change world conditions, all things and algorithms, both China and America are keen to master 5G but China has made a big leap forward in its strategy he mastered raw materials and made smelter factories in many OBOR partner countries to support the grand plan of the world battery industry monopoly, not for gadgets but for cars, buildings, and drones. One plan is to change the game of China from a country with energy dependence to a country with energy self-sufficiency.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Cratoon on April 16, 2020, 11:25:26 AM
China and the US been struggling for decades, and so far China were winning in numbers, by buying the USA tax payers by providing loans to USA. The reason USA even needed these loans are in part because of an economy war between China and the USA. Currently at least 10% of taxes american taxpayer pays goes directly to maintain the loan.

The funny thing will happen when the US will declare that 1$USD = 0. I always found hilarious the fact that the USA has trillions of debt, but in the US dollar that they can print.

Either way we can only assume how this crisis will affect us for the next 1 or 2 years, but really what people should wonder about is what the world will look like in 5 years, and how to prepare for it.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: iv4n on April 16, 2020, 12:38:35 PM
The more I read about current situation, about history, predictions for the future, the more I am convinced in Satoshi vision as the only thing that can save normal people from slavery! China, USA, Russia, and all other countries, all that billions, strong economies, and we have kids that die from hunger! We have people who struggle to survive the day, while others live in houses with 100 bedrooms and 170 toilets!
Let's be clear on one thing, all big countries are big because they have weapon industries, they sell weapons, and they make wars in some already fucked up countries.
People need to wake up! We need to rise awareness and to see what they're doing and to stop helping them in that. I am sick of nations, borders, we are all same, we are all people! We should live like brothers and help each other!


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Psynthax on April 16, 2020, 12:55:41 PM
If we look at the economy now, China is more profitable indeed. Because the conditions of the American and European economies
are getting worse.Especially with regard to the co-19 pandemic issue, China looks more ready to face it. Even China is now actively
selling health equipment related to the corona virus to several countries. China's economy is also more stable than other countries.
So I am not surprised that China will control the world economy after the crisis is over.
Never think the US and any countries that got severly affected will not held china responsible. Yes china is the place where majority of manufacturing happens but they got money from the west and if these countries got affected are about to make china responsible for it, well I can't imagine that but something bad will happen .


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Twinkledoe on April 16, 2020, 01:00:49 PM
If we look at the economy now, China is more profitable indeed. Because the conditions of the American and European economies
are getting worse.Especially with regard to the co-19 pandemic issue, China looks more ready to face it. Even China is now actively
selling health equipment related to the corona virus to several countries. China's economy is also more stable than other countries.
So I am not surprised that China will control the world economy after the crisis is over.
Never think the US and any countries that got severly affected will not held china responsible. Yes china is the place where majority of manufacturing happens but they got money from the west and if these countries got affected are about to make china responsible for it, well I can't imagine that but something bad will happen .

This is the reason why Trump says the US is investigating about the source of this virus. Even at early stages of this outbreak, there is already conspiracy theory that it came from the Wuhan lab near the wet market. Where there's a smoke, there's fire. Let us see what this investigation will lead us to...

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/trump-says-us-investigating-whether-virus-came-from-wuhan-lab-2020-04-15


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: pragna on April 16, 2020, 01:28:52 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

Future world is technological world and China has already more advance into technology. If you say any one products that US market is much high price then China market because their labour cost is high. But China raw materials and high population so that they can easily make a products in chef rate. So if you want to buy a product in chef rate you must look to chain and this is their strategy. So no doubt that chain very soon lead world economy not only for nCOVID-19 but also their technology.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: smyslov on April 16, 2020, 02:36:17 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

And I thought I was the only one thinking this theory, the virus started in their backyard and they managed it with minimal losses and they gained a lot when they start selling to the countries that are affected, soon we will see poor countries asking China for a loan or China buying some poor countries assets, looks like it's going to happen.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: bits4books on April 16, 2020, 03:15:30 PM
Even more? China already has enough power and strength.
I really hope that world will punish after the pandemic will over.
China was hiding everything and its actions caused what we see now. China should be tried as a war criminal, not less.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: naaimmd on April 16, 2020, 03:35:03 PM
Even more? China already has enough power and strength.
I really hope that world will punish after the pandemic will over.
China was hiding everything and its actions caused what we see now. China should be tried as a war criminal, not less.

we don't know what will happen but I hope we can overcome this crisis. I also agree Chinna didn't really told us real death number but they did told us coronavirus is dangerous and they should have stop people that were trying to leave but they didn't stop them and because of it now the whole world is suffering.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on April 16, 2020, 03:37:25 PM
There is no doubt that in the near future China will become the largest economy in the world, overtaking the United States. But that said, the COVID 19 outbreak will have a limited impact on this future course. The pandemic has affected both China and the United States. China was able to control it, but after many months of herculean efforts. It caused huge economic damage there was well.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: naaimmd on April 16, 2020, 03:50:30 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

And I thought I was the only one thinking this theory, the virus started in their backyard and they managed it with minimal losses and they gained a lot when they start selling to the countries that are affected, soon we will see poor countries asking China for a loan or China buying some poor countries assets, looks like it's going to happen.

Its looks like that way and not only poor country is suffering many rich countries like the USA are having a hard time because of coronavirus right now it's hard to tell which country will suffer more because this is only starting if we don't find a cure soon we don't know what will be world economic situation.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: naaimmd on April 16, 2020, 03:54:20 PM
There is no doubt that in the near future China will become the largest economy in the world, overtaking the United States. But that said, the COVID 19 outbreak will have a limited impact on this future course. The pandemic has affected both China and the United States. China was able to control it, but after many months of herculean efforts. It caused huge economic damage there was well.

yes, it's affected China's economy when there hot zoon but not as much as the USA and now there making money in this crisis which gives them a huge advantage. we are not sure when this will be over since there's no cure world situation will only get worse while china makes money from this crisis.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Kez1817 on April 16, 2020, 04:45:09 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
We don't really know what will happen after this pandemic.We can't make any conclusion  because we do not know about the plan and strategy of US to stay on their position as the king of all nation. We know China is the number one in terms of economic growth but that is not enough to rule and become a king. Hoping that this pandemic crisis will end so that we can go back to our normal life.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: mu_enrico on April 16, 2020, 04:55:09 PM
trump is desperately trying to deflect blame for american incompetence onto the WHO and china. it's definitely conjuring up belligerent sentiment from westerners, who are eating it up by the spoonful.
Well, I would say all of them (i.e., Trump, WHO, CCP) take part in this madness; however, CCP & WHO should take most of the blame.

i'm seeing calls for military intervention in china now, even from prominent bitcoiners.
...
people become so rabid so quickly. just feed them a little propaganda and they become flag-waving war hawks.....
To be honest, I don't think the US military intervention can free people from CCP or other authoritarian regimes. If any of the US, China, Russia go to war, it's undoubtedly will be catastrophic for the planet. I hope the Chinese will have the same sanity level as the Russian so that no one will push the button.

Anyway, to say China will be the king after this pandemic is too short-sighted, wait until WTO privilege about developing country lifted. Then we shall see new dynamics.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: naaimmd on April 16, 2020, 05:47:42 PM
trump is desperately trying to deflect blame for american incompetence onto the WHO and china. it's definitely conjuring up belligerent sentiment from westerners, who are eating it up by the spoonful.
Well, I would say all of them (i.e., Trump, WHO, CCP) take part in this madness; however, CCP & WHO should take most of the blame.

i'm seeing calls for military intervention in china now, even from prominent bitcoiners.
...
people become so rabid so quickly. just feed them a little propaganda and they become flag-waving war hawks.....
To be honest, I don't think the US military intervention can free people from CCP or other authoritarian regimes. If any of the US, China, Russia go to war, it's undoubtedly will be catastrophic for the planet. I hope the Chinese will have the same sanity level as the Russian so that no one will push the button.

Anyway, to say China will be the king after this pandemic is too short-sighted, wait until WTO privilege about developing country lifted. Then we shall see new dynamics.

it's not sure just theory since China is in control of coronavirus and making money when the whole world in lockdown. anything can happen I hope it won't affect much in our normal life.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Casdinyard on April 16, 2020, 05:57:46 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
We don't really know what will happen after this pandemic.We can't make any conclusion  because we do not know about the plan and strategy of US to stay on their position as the king of all nation.
You can conclude man, just look at China's economy and recovery rates and compare it with what USA and European countries have got. U.S.A is on the edge now being slight pushed by China, I don't know what is on Xi's mind but as far as I see it he is really giving sh*t with the U.S.A and having them in the topmost position is hard to take away.

We know China is the number one in terms of economic growth but that is not enough to rule and become a king. Hoping that this pandemic crisis will end so that we can go back to our normal life.
If the economy is not the basis for ruling the world then what should it be? China has the most producer of anything in the world that's why their economy keeps on rising, have you ever wonder why apple has a china made materials?


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Leonardo7 on April 16, 2020, 08:19:42 PM
There may be a game-changer after the end of the virus. I really don't like the way China handles human rights. Nations who feel the Chinese hid the virus outbreak may move their production from China


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: adzino on April 16, 2020, 10:08:00 PM
I don't I have been hearing all these conspiracy theories. I have heard about so much theories that can't even believe what is real and what is fake without making proper analysis. Though, all these conspiracy theories end up with one decision - "China is evil and they did this on purpose". This might be true, but then again, this might just be another propaganda against China.
Not sure about China becoming the economy king of the world. Look at them now. Their economy have contracted for the first time after a decade! They are expecting their GDP to drop too.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: figmentofmyass on April 16, 2020, 10:53:18 PM
trump is desperately trying to deflect blame for american incompetence onto the WHO and china. it's definitely conjuring up belligerent sentiment from westerners, who are eating it up by the spoonful.
Well, I would say all of them (i.e., Trump, WHO, CCP) take part in this madness; however, CCP & WHO should take most of the blame.

why is this even your focus? have you ever stopped for a moment and thought about why the conservative media is so concerned about finding someone else to blame?

the only people who should truly care about that is politicians (like trump) who will lose their political legitimacy and public office if they don't successfully convince the public that it was somebody else's fault.

you know, it's perfectly consistent to believe
-the CCP should have acted sooner
-the WHO acted as a CCP tool
-the trump administration fucked up in any every imaginable way

without transforming that into "it's all china's fault, they must suffer for what they've done!" which serves no purpose other than to distract you from the incredible failings of your own government.

consider what it meant for china to act sooner: they recognized clusters of atypical pneumonia (cases of which normally already number in the millions per year), identified a common source, isolated the genetic structure of the virus, and worked to determine virulence and transmissibility all within a few weeks! it's incredible that they were able to provide the genetic code to the rest of the world by january 11!

consider what it meant for the USA to act sooner: the pentagon was aware of unusual high reporting of atypical pneumonia in wuhan in december. the CDC and NIH were officially informed by january 3. the WHO informed the public on january 5. at the very latest, the trump administration knew of human-to-human transmission on january 20, likely earlier. the trump administration literally did nothing except lie to the public, until it shut down travel from china on february 2. then we saw the first stay home order filed in the USA on mach 19. until april 3, the CDC continued telling people not to wear masks in public. the national stockpile of PPE was virtually nonexistent. there is still no hope of widespread testing in the USA, who will undoubtedly be the worst hit country by the pandemic, at least officially.

the contrast is stark. you have to remember---in january, this was a newly discovered virus, about which nothing (include transmissibility) was known. it was a developing situation that was urgently being studied. now the trump administration is desperately clinging to the preliminary chinese study ruling out human-to-human transmission as the reason for their months-long delays, even though another chinese study contradicted it 6 days later!

it's incredible how stupid the trump administration thinks the public is, but sadly they are right. people are eating this propaganda up by the spoonful and blaming china, as if they zero memory of what just happened over the past 3 months.

To be honest, I don't think the US military intervention can free people from CCP or other authoritarian regimes. If any of the US, China, Russia go to war, it's undoubtedly will be catastrophic for the planet. I hope the Chinese will have the same sanity level as the Russian so that no one will push the button.

china is not who you need to worry about. it's the USA and UK you need to worry about, in terms of a military war.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Kasabus on April 16, 2020, 11:19:45 PM
I don't I have been hearing all these conspiracy theories. I have heard about so much theories that can't even believe what is real and what is fake without making proper analysis. Though, all these conspiracy theories end up with one decision - "China is evil and they did this on purpose". This might be true, but then again, this might just be another propaganda against China.
Not sure about China becoming the economy king of the world. Look at them now. Their economy have contracted for the first time after a decade! They are expecting their GDP to drop too.
This outbreak had actually started in China which had killed a lot of lives worlwide so definitely, China should be offering help to those affected countries. But a lot of people say that this is selfishly done by China just to bring down the economy of other countries and let China be the king of economy worldwide. This might be possible because China alone is a very progressive country even before.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: shield132 on April 16, 2020, 11:28:03 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
No man, no. Current situation around the world isn't good for China too and also we don't know whether information provided by China is 100% real or not and you know it's pretty common for communist countries to hide reality (remember hidden of facts around the Chernobyl accident and other soviet stories).
China is the world's largest exporter of goods. Since  there is a deep recessions in USA, Europe and in overall around the world, who will export from China? No one because there is no time of it. China exports smartphones, computers and etc, so export from China will fall a lot. But at the same time China is the biggest importer, takes second place in it, below to USA. In any way import/export will decline for China, especially when USA doesn't like them and world saw this threat from China, so more likely USA/Europe will unite against China and there will be a plan to move factories from it to their countries but to still keep near to Chinese prices. For this they may move factories not in their countries but in countries where workers are cheap like India, Turkey and etc.
Well, to sum up, World will try to recover from economy crisis and get rid of any kind of dependence on China, thus will destroy Chinese economy.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: BChydro on April 16, 2020, 11:41:09 PM
it's not sure just theory since China is in control of coronavirus and making money when the whole world in lockdown. anything can happen I hope it won't affect much in our normal life.
China is not providing the complete data about the situation, they are still hiding about the full impact of this corona virus, a complete lockdown is affecting each and every one, i am not going out for a long time, luckily the government is providing food and medicine, the only option is to sit at home and do something to entertain yourself so that you do not get affected by the virus roaming outside.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: samcrypto on April 16, 2020, 11:49:26 PM
We can’t say no since right now they are on top, doing a good business to the world but it will still depend on how western countries treat China, and on Europe where the case is so high. The virus affects many Economy but I still believe that US will survive on this, if they have a better decision to solve the problem and not just attacking the media and the WHO.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: eaLiTy on April 17, 2020, 12:09:42 AM
To be honest, I don't think the US military intervention can free people from CCP or other authoritarian regimes. If any of the US, China, Russia go to war, it's undoubtedly will be catastrophic for the planet. I hope the Chinese will have the same sanity level as the Russian so that no one will push the button.
I do accept this as China is a super power and you cannot fight the Chinese and expect peace, a world war will erupt if there is a military action against them and it all depends upon which side Russia will support and if Russia supports the Chinese then it will be catastrophic.

Anyway, to say China will be the king after this pandemic is too short-sighted, wait until WTO privilege about developing country lifted. Then we shall see new dynamics.

There will be a major shift in many sectors like we used to see in the past, this is an awakening call for every nation where they spent billions to military and warfare but an invisible virus forced every country to shut everything, the dynamics will change for the good and no country will be spared from this situation, most of the countries who have manufacturing units in China will ask the companies to move out and Japan already announced a 1.2 billion bail out for companies to move out from China and i am expecting all the major nations doing that and that will have a major impact on the Chinese economy along with the pandemic.

have you ever stopped for a moment and thought about why the conservative media is so concerned about finding someone else to blame?
Everyone liked the blame game, the WHO is responsible for majority of the issue as they were not addressing the situation and even when there were calls for shutting down airports when the spread started WHO gave a briefing that it is not that serious and it is not necessary to shut the airports.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: figmentofmyass on April 17, 2020, 01:01:51 AM
have you ever stopped for a moment and thought about why the conservative media is so concerned about finding someone else to blame?
Everyone liked the blame game, the WHO is responsible for majority of the issue as they were not addressing the situation and even when there were calls for shutting down airports when the spread started WHO gave a briefing that it is not that serious and it is not necessary to shut the airports.

dude, the WHO is a chronically underfunded UN agency!

since when do governments (especially superpowers) get to blame external organizations like that for basic national concerns like disaster preparedness and public health? ???

even if you ignore the trump administration's complete inaction for 1+ month, their failure to bar european travel until mid-march, their complete lack of preparedness prior to the epidemic, and their deliberate spread of misinformation re epidemic risks and mask efficacy until april.......even if you somehow believe the trump administration's narrative about delayed knowledge of human-to-human transmission, then riddle me this:

why would the USA's public health response ever be dependent on the WHO? ???

people forget that 10-15 years ago, the USA was well equipped to respond to a pandemic: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/george-bush-2005-wait-pandemic-late-prepare/story?id=69979013

obama and trump successively dismantled the entire infrastructure for pandemic response and slashed CDC spending repeatedly. is it a surprise the CDC just became a mouthpiece for the WHO? whose fault is that? ::)

but no, nobody wants to hold their public officials accountable anymore because they are so fucking partisan. they just want to point fingers at people they hate and go to war. this wartime mentality is exactly how the USA started becoming a police state post-9/11, and it's why they were able to justify popular support for invading iraq and afghanistan.

the next thing you know, we'll be dropping bombs on beijing. just wait and see where this "ignore reality and blame china at all costs" mentality goes. and watch as these stories become increasingly urgent over time:
China may be conducting secret nuclear tests, State Department warns (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/china-small-nuclear-tests-secret-state-department)

sadly i have noticed most bitcoiners today are not libertarians like early adopters, but populists who channel their economic anger into whatever their news media and politicians tell them to.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: abhiseshakana on April 17, 2020, 03:51:35 AM
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people forget that 10-15 years ago, the USA was well equipped to respond to a pandemic

One observer of modern monetary theory looks at the condition of the corona from the other side that colors the American presidential election in 2020.

Oligarchs and plutocracy are carrying out maneuvers, namely, shadow zabbatai behind the republican party and orthodox shadow behind the democrat party. Why did Sanders resign from his nomination as representative democrat and Joe Bidden who came forward with the Obama Care program volume 2 in his campaign.

When Obama came to power there was an Obama care health safety net program backed up by the government and the private sector. Health services, hospitals, medical devices, medical personnel, and pharmaceutical drugs are the most profitable businesses in the Obama administration. But when Trump is in charge the emphasis is on the military-industrial complex, oil and gas, mineral mines and many more incumbent energy rulers and defense networks which all defense contractors support the Trump administration. The health sector lost the coffers of its wealth.

China is not providing the complete data about the situation, they are still hiding about the full impact of this corona virus, a complete lockdown is affecting each and every one, i am not going out for a long time, luckily the government is providing food and medicine, the only option is to sit at home and do something to entertain yourself so that you do not get affected by the virus roaming outside.

After the corona pandemic subsided China immediately launched its digital Yuan. Two days ago the Chinese government had begun showing their digital money appearances. It seems like China is moving faster and using the corona's momentum to go first.

In addition to the drug for Corona, the Chinese government also announced that there are 2 corona vaccines which will be released soon. 1 vaccine is still in the stage of testing on humans and another vaccine has completed the second phase of the test and will soon enter the third phase of the test but it is likely to be missed with pandemic reasons. The third stage can be described as a retest ie comparing with similar drugs in the same disease. So the corona vaccine + drug has been found in China and how China will use it after this.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: TheUltraElite on April 17, 2020, 05:55:41 AM
Too early to say anything. We are in a situation for economic crisis and the countries are trying their best to tide over the situation. Badly effected countries or poorer countries are the worst hit at the moment. For them recovery will be tough.

Whether one country will be ruling (not taking names) is a question but I do not think there is a specific answer to this because once the situation becomes better, whether there will be conflicts is another question. Let us hope that it does not happen but truely speaking, America will not bow down to some other country easily which can make things worse.

Speaking of bitcoin, it is going up slightly but this is temporary, still people are making money on margin trading, shows that people are optimistic about money and want to make more of it. :D


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Latviand on April 17, 2020, 06:52:46 AM
China is already the manufacturing hub of this world, even when there is no trace of corona on countries other than China they faced issue on the supply chain so after this, they will hold more power in the manufacturing industries and also yes they will be considered as supernation as well.

But America is doing something to hold their position and many people not aware of it.

I think there a possibility that it will happen, their economy is stable and they manipulated it properly even if they are the epicenter of the virus. It is hard to say if it is intentional or not that they make the virus, but don't have any proof yet. Probably, they already have the vaccine because the recovery in their country is somehow stable in 77k and still increasing, and the number of cases is already not increasing so much. Most of our products, items, and goods came from their country because their man power and labor is so much better compared to other countries, they are the no.1 largest population in the world. On the other side, US really is having a hard time and trying to manage their economy as they are fighting with the virus.

Have you heard of moon mining? Rare earth elements!

Moon mining sounds interesting, I'm rooting for the US to do that as soon as possible.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: aioc on April 17, 2020, 07:36:36 AM

Not sure about China becoming the economy king of the world. Look at them now. Their economy have contracted for the first time after a decade! They are expecting their GDP to drop too.

Yes, that's true but not very severe compare to other countries badly hit by the Coronavirus, this conspiracy theories are circulating around the net, and media become suspicious because they don't want to show to the world that the Coronna Virus comes from one of their labs in Wuhan, they are censoring every article that points to that theory.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: michellee on April 17, 2020, 07:58:49 AM
China is not providing the complete data about the situation, they are still hiding about the full impact of this corona virus, a complete lockdown is affecting each and every one, i am not going out for a long time, luckily the government is providing food and medicine, the only option is to sit at home and do something to entertain yourself so that you do not get affected by the virus roaming outside.

That is what I am thinking so far. They can hide something behind the coronavirus, and I guess they have other information which can be used for another country. But I hope that will be over soon because many countries still trying to help their people by isolating them in the hospital and give them a treatment to cure the virus. It is affecting all countries, and the lockdown still is applied in many countries too, but the important thing is we need to keep healthy, so the virus doesn't attack our health.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: NavI_027 on April 17, 2020, 08:00:57 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
That's going to happen for sure if the crisia on US and Europe gets even worse. China's economy is suffering as well but at least their status gets milder thus going back on its normal operation soon.

By the way, I saw a pic on FB a while ago and I'll let you decide what's your opinion on this.

https://i.imgur.com/auJVD3k.jpg[


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: naaimmd on April 17, 2020, 01:34:23 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
That's going to happen for sure if the crisia on US and Europe gets even worse. China's economy is suffering as well but at least their status gets milder thus going back on its normal operation soon.

By the way, I saw a pic on FB a while ago and I'll let you decide what's your opinion on this.

https://i.imgur.com/auJVD3k.jpg[

can't say it's over yet just saw today 1200+ death today so don't really know which way this going it's hard to guess.

[ing] https://ibb.co/TY2Nd5D [/img]


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: hahay on April 17, 2020, 03:05:10 PM
When China ended the lockdown yesterday it would indeed be good for their economy, but at this time at least the death rate due to COVID-19 has increased again and I feel this chaos or crisis will still be a hindrance to any plan and to become an economic king it can't be done this way because even this situation is still difficult to recover.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Saisher on April 17, 2020, 04:25:59 PM
 I strongly believe that bad intentions will certainly be carried out by China as long as "PANDEMIC" spreads, I am very supportive from the very beginning China must subject international sanctions..  I hope China will not achieve China's goal of controlling the world economy, and hopefully, the United States will remain strong..

Pray for Europe, the United States and the rest of the world affected by COVID-19

They are working on it and they are succeeding, they are now on total control on what they call China sea I dread to see the day that they can control everything and every country has debt on China, they are the new breed of super power and they are not nice, once was called a sleeping giant is now awaken.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: ololajulo on April 17, 2020, 04:36:48 PM
The conspiracy theory will demand lots of investigation after this crisis,if they are guilty of some of the major crime they will force the world to get against them. Have never seen or heard of how such reaction could be against one country but it wont be fair on all there citizen dispersed around the world. I would advise Chinese citizens to plan to get back to their country as soon as they got any exit means. The world wont see it the way they think it could be then


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: KrisAlex18 on April 17, 2020, 04:37:19 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
Yes it's true, I have seen in some news before that US has the biggest number of died people in their land, so I think their economy has been really affected because of what is happening, we know that US is one of the most strongest and richest country in the world but even the strongest country has its weakness too. If they have lack of people in their land to support or to proceed the transactions of every business in their land then for sure theu will reall goes down.
China is one of the strongest country as well. So I think they also deserves as a replacement for economy king, even though this pandemic virus cam from their country their economy did not drop down so deep because they have killed the virus already.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: qory on April 17, 2020, 04:42:10 PM
China and united state become bad country and terrible because faced bigger cases in this year with Corona virus, maybe other country could take their position and bring positive side or their economic crisis and help many countries fight with Corona virus, every moment will be new era for other country to be bigger.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: FanEagle on April 17, 2020, 06:29:33 PM
China is already the manufacturing part of the world, we are talking about a power that is unprecedented in any part of history before, a country that has a power not due to its military, not due to even its economy, nor due to its political genius. No they are actually one of the if not the strongest nations in the whole world all thanks to population willing to work for cheap while producing goods and since they are too many people when you work over half a billion people for only few dollars that still comes down to a lot of money in the end.

I believe there is still money to be made by the Chinese during and after this period. I don't know if they will be the "King", they are powerful economically but that's about it, what else they could even do? Just continue to be strong economically and that's it.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Golftech on April 17, 2020, 06:50:26 PM
 I strongly believe that bad intentions will certainly be carried out by China as long as "PANDEMIC" spreads, I am very supportive from the very beginning China must subject international sanctions..  I hope China will not achieve China's goal of controlling the world economy, and hopefully, the United States will remain strong..

Pray for Europe, the United States and the rest of the world affected by COVID-19

They are working on it and they are succeeding, they are now on total control on what they call China sea I dread to see the day that they can control everything and every country has debt on China, they are the new breed of super power and they are not nice, once was called a sleeping giant is now awaken.
They established businesses around the world and start building their economic barrier, it's not far from now that this rule can be made as every countries around the world are suffering from this pandemic disease and those who are in the top list in terms of economic positions are also affected and rebuilding their economy will take some time.
The pandemic problem are doing the favor for the Chinese but once there's a cure for this virus expect that there will be much more from super powers
sanctions if being proven will take place.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: mindrust on April 17, 2020, 07:09:12 PM
China is already the manufacturing part of the world, we are talking about a power that is unprecedented in any part of history before, a country that has a power not due to its military, not due to even its economy, nor due to its political genius. No they are actually one of the if not the strongest nations in the whole world all thanks to population willing to work for cheap while producing goods and since they are too many people when you work over half a billion people for only few dollars that still comes down to a lot of money in the end.

I believe there is still money to be made by the Chinese during and after this period. I don't know if they will be the "King", they are powerful economically but that's about it, what else they could even do? Just continue to be strong economically and that's it.

Trump should hang whoever came up with the idea pf moving factories to China.

It was working while the Chinese were acting like slaves but it is not working anymore because they successfully stole every tech the Americans had. Now China can make their own cars, warships, planes, cellphones and everything else.

Good Job America. You just got pwned with your own weapon.

It is funny though... USA pretty much did the same thing during the WWII by stealing the German scientists from Germany.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: travwill on April 17, 2020, 10:34:20 PM
I'd love to look at a detailed report of China's investment funds. I am sure there will be many interesting things.
China is likely to increase its position in the global market through the purchase of cheap assets of large companies.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: carter34 on April 17, 2020, 11:22:31 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

This is looking like speculation to me. I will wait until the global pandemic settles down for us to see after six month. Anyway, the struggle has been with America and China , although America is still battling with cases while China has started business but I believe America still has the power to continue as economic leader.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: MCobian on April 17, 2020, 11:27:18 PM
It really makes sense if the cause of this crisis is China, because this Corona virus originated in China. But the impact of this virus is affected
the worst is America which is China's biggest rival in the economy. It's really strange to say coincidence, Even large European economies such
as Germany are among the top 5 countries with the most corona virus spread. Of all the countries affected by the corona virus, only China has
a stable economy and is very ready to face this corona virus. So it is indeed likely that China will control the world economy.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Quidat on April 17, 2020, 11:49:26 PM
I'd love to look at a detailed report of China's investment funds. I am sure there will be many interesting things.
China is likely to increase its position in the global market through the purchase of cheap assets of large companies.
Theres no doubt into this matter yet we know on how European and US markets dips down while Chinese markets stood stable even on this pandemic situation.
and theres no brainer if they had bought huge portions of stocks or shares yet China had been always that kind of motive on to be on top of everything.
We cant pinpoint or accuse them solidly if that covid virus was indeed came from them but to think that they do had that financial capacity to buy up
everything when an opportunity is seen.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Leviathan.007 on April 18, 2020, 08:53:42 AM
I believe right now the country who creates the vaccine faster than other can easily be the greatest power of the world because they can sell for every price they want. So, maybe because China started it faster they will create the vaccine before other countries. Also according the current situation of china lowering the outbreak speed they have much better chance for it. So, I think yes. China will be the world's first and greatest power near soon.
Because as fast as I know china's market got a better situation too.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: lepbagong on April 18, 2020, 09:08:03 AM
I believe right now the country who creates the vaccine faster than other can easily be the greatest power of the world because they can sell for every price they want. So, maybe because China started it faster they will create the vaccine before other countries. Also according the current situation of china lowering the outbreak speed they have much better chance for it. So, I think yes. China will be the world's first and greatest power near soon.
Because as fast as I know china's market got a better situation too.

China, even before the epidemic corona, the country was already a force that has been taken into account in many sectors. especially now that they have surpassed the epedemic faster than many countries are infected, so they began to move the economy again compared to other countries that still think of an epedemic that continues to grow in almost developed countries. but with the presence of epedmic, it makes many countries that used to compete now actually help each other to overcome this epedemic corona.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Leviathan.007 on April 18, 2020, 10:04:30 AM
I believe right now the country who creates the vaccine faster than other can easily be the greatest power of the world because they can sell for every price they want. So, maybe because China started it faster they will create the vaccine before other countries. Also according the current situation of china lowering the outbreak speed they have much better chance for it. So, I think yes. China will be the world's first and greatest power near soon.
Because as fast as I know china's market got a better situation too.

China, even before the epidemic corona, the country was already a force that has been taken into account in many sectors. especially now that they have surpassed the epedemic faster than many countries are infected, so they began to move the economy again compared to other countries that still think of an epedemic that continues to grow in almost developed countries. but with the presence of epedmic, it makes many countries that used to compete now actually help each other to overcome this epedemic corona.

Exactly! Just imagine the power of China right now....
I think the world after covid-19 will change a lot and one of the changes is to China getting much more powerful in the economy. before covid-19 it was fight between China and USA for the first place of economy, but after covid-19 China will take the leadership
However, my dear It's "epidemic" not "epedemic "


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Sadlife on April 18, 2020, 11:09:57 AM
It seems so, as the US economy is barely holding up and files of unemployment increases to jaw dropping 22 million. With the bailout and price stimulus packages we can see that the Fed is in panic they even said in their statement that they will print unlimited amounts of money to save the US Economy but personally i think this will only be good in the short term but will surely have negative effects in the long run.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: repear7 on April 18, 2020, 11:10:18 AM
The course of the world economy will change and you can't deny, we saw a couple of months prior to the exchange war between the US and China didn't subside. The show to the world is extremely solid, however now endemic debacles in many nations are encountering monetary hardship because of a pandemic. We as a whole realize that China can rapidly end this occasion, while America despite everything needs to deal with their influenced residents, clearly, this will change the focal point of the world economy


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: verita1 on April 18, 2020, 11:52:46 AM
GDP in China contracted by 6.8% in the first quarter as a result of the Coronavirus.
Business activities have not yet returned to normal.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/17/china-economy-beijing-contracted-in-q1-2020-gdp-amid-coronavirus.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/17/china-economy-beijing-contracted-in-q1-2020-gdp-amid-coronavirus.html)

They have also reported 169 new cases of coronavirus and that the patients are asymptomatic.
What represents the Second Wave of Coronavirus in China.
The best thing that can happen to humanity is for a coronavirus vaccine to be approved soon.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: rdluffy on April 18, 2020, 12:09:06 PM
I hope not, I don't want to see China spreading their politics around the world, I hop that all countries around the world excludes China for anything, just exclude, a war is not necessary, but a total boycott, if they want to continue their nazi style of government, let them be, alone, with only their resources

We all have to know and put in our mind that we are losing lives, jobs, health, only because China hide for some time about their real conditions, I don't blame them because of the virus, but because of the lies they told us


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Febo on April 18, 2020, 02:41:05 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.


Powers changes every day. It is normal a lot will change when covid-19 crisis ends.  But the real winners now will be countries that will in first wave have infected as close to 60% of people so no more lock downs will be needed. In New York half of tested are positive. In country where I live only 2%. So when first wave ends New York will be way more prepared for second way then most f other countries.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: naaimmd on April 18, 2020, 03:45:18 PM
I hope not, I don't want to see China spreading their politics around the world, I hop that all countries around the world excludes China for anything, just exclude, a war is not necessary, but a total boycott, if they want to continue their nazi style of government, let them be, alone, with only their resources

We all have to know and put in our mind that we are losing lives, jobs, health, only because China hide for some time about their real conditions, I don't blame them because of the virus, but because of the lies they told us

every country now blaming China so we might see many country will ban China after this pandemic end.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on April 18, 2020, 03:50:56 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.


Powers changes every day. It is normal a lot will change when covid-19 crisis ends.  But the real winners now will be countries that will in first wave have infected as close to 60% of people so no more lock downs will be needed. In New York half of tested are positive. In country where I live only 2%. So when first wave ends New York will be way more prepared for second way then most f other countries.
Definitely, the pandemic hits a lot of countries in the world in major cities and countries like Italy, Spain and USA where tourist will more likely to go to in vacation. The world will going to change a LOT, we are going to be more conscious about our environment which is good, we are going to be more of a detail looker or whatever you call it, and most probably we will be having more of facilities to deal with emergency situation in the future like hospitals. Let's not think of tomorrow when there is a problem today, let's kill the virus first and plan of the future.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: plvbob0070 on April 18, 2020, 04:13:17 PM
I don't know how China did it, but the fact that the epicenter of the pandemic moved from them to another continent. How they were able to control the virus but the other countries can't when in fact the virus started from them. I don't know, maybe they're using this pandemic to conquer and get what they want. 
If you will see this article

COVID-19 not stopping 'steady increase of Chinese harassment' in South China Sea (https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/4/14/south-china-sea-coronavirus.html)

It's not only about China and the US economy. I think they are also using this as an opportunity while most countries are busy battling with the virus. However, I don't think that the US economy will easily get overthrown by China even though they are having a hard time with COVID-19. Although they are one of the top countries, China is still far from reaching the US. It will just affect America's economy but not to the point, China will replace its position


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on April 18, 2020, 05:00:09 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
I think it is impossible because China is also affected by the pandemic of COVID-19, and they also have a huge number of virus cases which have died and it is continually increasing. These virus is a big problem in the economy of a country because a lot of people are dying, productions have stopped, etc, so it is impossible for China to have a good economy while there is a pandemic.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: BitSat19 on April 18, 2020, 05:04:57 PM
I hope not, I don't want to see China spreading their politics around the world, I hop that all countries around the world excludes China for anything, just exclude, a war is not necessary, but a total boycott, if they want to continue their nazi style of government, let them be, alone, with only their resources

We all have to know and put in our mind that we are losing lives, jobs, health, only because China hide for some time about their real conditions, I don't blame them because of the virus, but because of the lies they told us

every country now blaming China so we might see many country will ban China after this pandemic end.

I hope so, I expect some countries, US and allies, to take some actions against China, but the entire world needs China to produce cheap stuff, so this is a pain in the $$$
But let's be realistics, my country for example is good with China, they want to keep good relations with them  >:( >:( >:(
Now China doing mind games and money games both so its very difficult for any country to ban China or cut trade ties with them as they have cheap stuff for all which is needed by many countries on other hand China taking control of many ports in different countries which are going to help them even few countries going against them.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Harlot on April 18, 2020, 05:09:02 PM
We are already hearing reports how other countries that are extremely affected are suing China for damages in the reason of how they have allowed this COVID-19 virus to grow and spread to other countries. Several countries including the UK and US are thinking that China should also be held liable for being the main cause of this pandemic. If you think about it if they hadn't silenced their media and confirmed the spread earlier most countries at the beginning of January should have act out properly based on the information they have on December. But since China wanted to limit the spread on their own ways without banning flights and restricting their own citizens on going out it had spread to several countries now. If Big countries like the US and UK team up with other countries I think China will be the one buried in debt and not the countries who have more infection now, after all China cannot risk to be alone here without any kind of allies in the world.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: tbterryboy on April 18, 2020, 05:51:56 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
Well, we are not 100% sure about this. But there have been some theories that China have planned this for a long time and were the cause of it. I am not sure if what people are saying is the truth, but I have seen a lot of people that are saying this on Twitter. And I also saw news on Twitter that the Chinese were buying up lots of companies in Italy, does anyone know whether this is true or not?

There are lots of things that have been said about this and if you look at everything that has happened, it makes it seem like they have planned the Coronavirus pandemic and released it to bring down the world economy and grow theirs. I wouldn't like to believe that tho'.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: enhu on April 18, 2020, 06:13:03 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
Well, we are not 100% sure about this. But there have been some theories that China have planned this for a long time and were the cause of it. I am not sure if what people are saying is the truth, but I have seen a lot of people that are saying this on Twitter. And I also saw news on Twitter that the Chinese were buying up lots of companies in Italy, does anyone know whether this is true or not?

There are lots of things that have been said about this and if you look at everything that has happened, it makes it seem like they have planned the Coronavirus pandemic and released it to bring down the world economy and grow theirs. I wouldn't like to believe that tho'.

"Never let a good crisis go to waste" and the Chinese didn't waste it. If other countries buy companies from other countries they will call it an investment.  But not a plan to take over.

If the Chinese had planned it, they wouldn't have a ton of dead meat there. If the media says they lie about the numbers of death in China, they can't know all the truth of the number of death since people are afraid of quarantine and they hide themselves to death, it happens in many countries today. None of the countries counted their deaths correctly.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: TitanGEL on April 19, 2020, 02:56:16 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
Well, we are not 100% sure about this. But there have been some theories that China have planned this for a long time and were the cause of it. I am not sure if what people are saying is the truth, but I have seen a lot of people that are saying this on Twitter. And I also saw news on Twitter that the Chinese were buying up lots of companies in Italy, does anyone know whether this is true or not?

There are lots of things that have been said about this and if you look at everything that has happened, it makes it seem like they have planned the Coronavirus pandemic and released it to bring down the world economy and grow theirs. I wouldn't like to believe that tho'.

"Never let a good crisis go to waste" and the Chinese didn't waste it. If other countries buy companies from other countries they will call it an investment.  But not a plan to take over.

If the Chinese had planned it, they wouldn't have a ton of dead meat there. If the media says they lie about the numbers of death in China, they can't know all the truth of the number of death since people are afraid of quarantine and they hide themselves to death, it happens in many countries today. None of the countries counted their deaths correctly.
It is just a theory and there is not yet proved but if it is true,  then the Chinese government is really sucks because they hide the important things in order to protect their reputation. People who speak the truth in China are become missing, I do not know why the Chinese government are so evil to do that. The freedom of speech there are so doom where if you criticize their government, you will be punish. The china is gaining more power all over the world and it is the reality.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: naaimmd on April 19, 2020, 02:14:27 PM
I hope not, I don't want to see China spreading their politics around the world, I hop that all countries around the world excludes China for anything, just exclude, a war is not necessary, but a total boycott, if they want to continue their nazi style of government, let them be, alone, with only their resources

We all have to know and put in our mind that we are losing lives, jobs, health, only because China hide for some time about their real conditions, I don't blame them because of the virus, but because of the lies they told us


We are in the world of globalization and each country is dependent on others on a high scale and China is one of the major exporters so total boycott is not very easy which needs solid evidence and  support from all other major countries rather than accusations and rumors and yes they are taking some advantages of this situation when compared to other countries I think we might get more info on it after the containment as everyone is busy on the containment as of now
many country agrees to take action after pandemic end so we might see ban or boycott China soon I don't know how it will affect global economy but I hope we all can get back to our normal life.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on April 19, 2020, 02:31:50 PM
If we compare China with the United States now, there are a lot of interesting things that can be noticed. Chinese economy came under tremendous stress, but there was no news of mass layoffs and economic collapse. But within the initial few weeks, millions have become unemployed in the United States and the economy is near breaking point. This just shows that which economy is more resilient.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: tbterryboy on April 19, 2020, 03:54:06 PM
Why do people think that China will be doing alright after all of this is over? Do you not realize that demand for Chinese products literally dropped down because of this virus?

I know for a fact that if you put some items into a container for weeks on and with a cargo and send it to another nation, by the time it comes to the new nation virus can't survive there, yet for some reason all the Chinese products in my nation is at clearance for like 70% discount and still staying there, you would think on a period when everyone is lacking funding and nobody really has money or even not sure about their job, you would see the products with 70% discount would go off the shelves right? All the other ones who are not on discount is constantly finishing, yet the Chinese products with 70% discount stands still.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: abhiseshakana on April 19, 2020, 03:56:36 PM
"Never let a good crisis go to waste" and the Chinese didn't waste it. If other countries buy companies from other countries they will call it an investment.  But not a plan to take over.

If the Chinese had planned it, they wouldn't have a ton of dead meat there. If the media says they lie about the numbers of death in China, they can't know all the truth of the number of death since people are afraid of quarantine and they hide themselves to death, it happens in many countries today. None of the countries counted their deaths correctly.


There are two possibilities for this Chinese action:

1. China is indeed manipulating data about the number of patients dying covid-19. Due to the lack of transparency of the data makes all the world fooled and did not do the right preparation to overcome covid-19. Along with false information from China confirmed by WHO that the virus only spreads from animal to human, it cannot be human to human, making many people unaware that the coronavirus is deadly and spreads very quickly. In January 2020, China bought up a lot of PPE from all over the world, even in Indonesia until the beginning of March there were still exports of masks to China. The goal is the world lacking stock of personal protective equipment with the aim of reprising America for spreading the virus to China.
https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/03-03-2020-shortage-of-personal-protective-equipment-endangering-health-workers-worldwide

2. China makes a new narrative that covid-19 is more deadly by spreading new news the number of covid-19 victims has doubled with the aim of large businesses selling vaccines to the entire world population by creating the effect of thinking that covid-19 is, in fact, more terrible.

Back in the Obama era, China was America's strategic partner while in the Trump era, China became America's new enemy. So the covid-19 pandemic and the November 2020 election moment were used by China to establish collusion with the Democrats and the WHO to bring down Trump. When he realized this Trump did not say anything, Trump would thwart this plan by starting to threaten to stop donating to the WHO even going out of WHO. Trump is aggressively pressing India as its strategic partner (which will be used as a proxy against China) to provide corona medicine immediately.

The geopolitics and geo-strategies of the world are very fluid because there are no eternal friends and foes, only eternal interests.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: bits4books on April 20, 2020, 07:21:57 AM
Even more? China already has enough power and strength.
I really hope that world will punish after the pandemic will over.
China was hiding everything and its actions caused what we see now. China should be tried as a war criminal, not less.

we don't know what will happen but I hope we can overcome this crisis. I also agree Chinna didn't really told us real death number but they did told us coronavirus is dangerous and they should have stop people that were trying to leave but they didn't stop them and because of it now the whole world is suffering.

If our great "flagship of the world order" (USA) does not put forward strict and harsh claims against China in the near future/after the end of the pandemic - this is a big disadvantage both for the government as a whole, and for Trump personally.
I really hope that Trump understands what he needs to do - otherwise we will face a critical left turn from this policy of patience.
It's clear to everyone that it's one thing to "haha b-52 does BAM-BAM" on the Taliban, and another to say to China's face that they are fuckers


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: onrise on April 20, 2020, 09:03:09 AM
If we compare China with the United States now, there are a lot of interesting things that can be noticed. Chinese economy came under tremendous stress, but there was no news of mass layoffs and economic collapse. But within the initial few weeks, millions have become unemployed in the United States and the economy is near breaking point. This just shows that which economy is more resilient.


One thing we can’t be sure about China is the news which they tell it. World knows that China media is controlled by government and only what they want us to show or say they will only telecast that since they are not a democratic country where media is free to show the reality. So even if there is a mass unemployment the government would not make it show just like how US is telling now that the death in Covid 2019 in China is more than that of US but they are not showing it.



Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: exstasie on April 20, 2020, 09:32:30 AM
China is currently operating at 83% of their previous output, while the threat of a second wave of infections lingers. https://www.ft.com/content/43163250-808a-11ea-82f6-150830b3b99a

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A business activity index created by Trivium, a Beijing-based consultancy, estimates the Chinese economy is currently operating at 83 per cent of “typical output”, compared with 66 per cent in mid-March. That is welcome considering China’s predicament in February but still represents a devastating drop from what might have been expected.

Between the continued local shutdowns and fear that more will be required, and the drop in American and European export demand, things are not looking particularly optimistic for China:

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For Mr Xi, there are two main dangers to this incipient recovery as China starts to go back to work. First, a resurgence of the pandemic in the world’s most populous country. And second, a collapse in demand in the US and EU.

On Tuesday, the IMF predicted the US economy would shrink 5.9 per cent this year because of its even greater struggles with coronavirus, while China will manage 1.2 per cent growth for the full year.

Chinese exporters are already bracing themselves for a fall in many of their main markets, wary that a modest recovery in shipments last month was flattered by orders that did not make it on to ships in January and February.

“External demand is one of three major economic headwinds ahead which will cause the recovery to be W-shaped instead of V-shaped,” says Larry Hu, chief China economist at Macquarie. The other two challenges, he notes, are falling property prices and deflation.

One Guangdong exporter said the global shutdown is a "death blow" to their economy. Q1 saw the worst economic contraction since Chinese record-keeping began, and I would conservatively guess the GDP drop was twice what the government says it was.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: tvplus006 on April 20, 2020, 10:14:37 AM
If we compare China with the United States now, there are a lot of interesting things that can be noticed. Chinese economy came under tremendous stress, but there was no news of mass layoffs and economic collapse. But within the initial few weeks, millions have become unemployed in the United States and the economy is near breaking point. This just shows that which economy is more resilient.

Just because we don't know about mass unemployment in China doesn't mean it isn't there. Government-controlled media can only provide information that reflects the government's position. We have already seen how China hid the number of people infected with the coronavirus and the number of people who died from the infection.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: exstasie on April 20, 2020, 11:09:00 AM
If we compare China with the United States now, there are a lot of interesting things that can be noticed. Chinese economy came under tremendous stress, but there was no news of mass layoffs and economic collapse. But within the initial few weeks, millions have become unemployed in the United States and the economy is near breaking point. This just shows that which economy is more resilient.

Just because we don't know about mass unemployment in China doesn't mean it isn't there. Government-controlled media can only provide information that reflects the government's position.

Even then, the official numbers are bad. Unemployment in China is still hovering just below February levels, which were the highest unemployment levels on record. https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-ravages-chinas-economyand-its-just-getting-started-11587122990

https://i.imgur.com/OzE9OsO.png

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Joblessness has emerged as an additional worry, soaring from a narrow range around 5.0% in recent years to 5.9% in March—after a record 6.2% in February.

Though officials said Friday that China hasn’t suffered large-scale layoffs despite the pandemic, economists estimate as many as 80 million people—roughly twice the population of California—have lost their jobs or not been able to return to work in the past three months, in a working age population of roughly 900 million.

Larry Hu, an economist at Macquarie Group, said he expects joblessness to rise by another 10 million in the coming months unless Beijing enacts a major stimulus.

90 million people losing their jobs sure sounds like mass layoffs to me.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: naaimmd on April 20, 2020, 02:40:57 PM
If we compare China with the United States now, there are a lot of interesting things that can be noticed. Chinese economy came under tremendous stress, but there was no news of mass layoffs and economic collapse. But within the initial few weeks, millions have become unemployed in the United States and the economy is near breaking point. This just shows that which economy is more resilient.

Just because we don't know about mass unemployment in China doesn't mean it isn't there. Government-controlled media can only provide information that reflects the government's position. We have already seen how China hid the number of people infected with the coronavirus and the number of people who died from the infection.

Yes, I know that many people saying total death in China maybe 50000+ but china only telling us 4000+ people died.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: naaimmd on April 20, 2020, 02:43:06 PM
If we compare China with the United States now, there are a lot of interesting things that can be noticed. Chinese economy came under tremendous stress, but there was no news of mass layoffs and economic collapse. But within the initial few weeks, millions have become unemployed in the United States and the economy is near breaking point. This just shows that which economy is more resilient.

Just because we don't know about mass unemployment in China doesn't mean it isn't there. Government-controlled media can only provide information that reflects the government's position.

Even then, the official numbers are bad. Unemployment in China is still hovering just below February levels, which were the highest unemployment levels on record. https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-ravages-chinas-economyand-its-just-getting-started-11587122990

https://i.imgur.com/OzE9OsO.png

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Joblessness has emerged as an additional worry, soaring from a narrow range around 5.0% in recent years to 5.9% in March—after a record 6.2% in February.

Though officials said Friday that China hasn’t suffered large-scale layoffs despite the pandemic, economists estimate as many as 80 million people—roughly twice the population of California—have lost their jobs or not been able to return to work in the past three months, in a working age population of roughly 900 million.

Larry Hu, an economist at Macquarie Group, said he expects joblessness to rise by another 10 million in the coming months unless Beijing enacts a major stimulus.

90 million people losing their jobs sure sounds like mass layoffs to me.

Thats huge number of people are losing job i don't know how our life will be after this pandemic over.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: wozzek23 on April 20, 2020, 03:17:59 PM
I agree wholeheartedly, we are talking about a country that literally jails people and harvest their organs, I am sorry but there is no way that they allow an information like this to go public neither.

If there was layoffs which I think there was, we wouldn't know about it, this is China and they had a lot more deaths than they said they had yet we do not know about it because they do not tell about it. People actually blame china for this virus because they didn't get proper defenses for it neither, they just let it be, so there is no way something that came out of china to ruin the world this much but didn't hurt china at all, it started there so it means they must be hurt even more than any other place on earth, but somehow they have no economical problems and less death than 5 other countries? I don't believe it.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on April 20, 2020, 04:32:22 PM
I agree wholeheartedly, we are talking about a country that literally jails people and harvest their organs, I am sorry but there is no way that they allow an information like this to go public neither.

That's the way it works in China. Even worse things happen in countries such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, yet we see very few "activists" protesting against it. Why selectively target China? Why not the Arab nations, or the African dictatorships? The Saudis even managed to head the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC). Can you believe it? I am not supporting China, but just pointing out the ironies.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: naaimmd on April 21, 2020, 02:22:57 PM
I agree wholeheartedly, we are talking about a country that literally jails people and harvest their organs, I am sorry but there is no way that they allow an information like this to go public neither.

That's the way it works in China. Even worse things happen in countries such as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, yet we see very few "activists" protesting against it. Why selectively target China? Why not the Arab nations, or the African dictatorships? The Saudis even managed to head the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC). Can you believe it? I am not supporting China, but just pointing out the ironies.

well, coronavirus fund in china that's why every country blaming china not other country and right now 170k+ people are dead because of coronavirus. if you are a resident of the USA who you will blame for coronavirus? because you can't blame nature even if this was coming from nature you will need to put blame someone so no one can blame you it's really simple. this is just my opinion.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: camito on April 21, 2020, 02:48:33 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

We have heard the competitiveness of China in terms of economy. We know how much it competes with Europe and America, even in some parts of Asia like Japan and Middle East. It is hard to make a statement so easily regarding China taking over America's place or title. Many have beeb criticizing China because of its cunning ways on how it improves its current state overtime. Even COVID-19 is doubted as the sole reason for the falldown of Europe because there is an investigation regarding it being created in the Wuhan Biolab.

Nevertheless, I think America is tough. Not only does it make use of its large area and natural resources but they also have greater human resources in different fields, most especially in economics. So I think, it is not yet safe to say that China is slowly taking over America's title.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: TIDOVEE on April 21, 2020, 03:03:40 PM
Anyway, by report it was said that the pandemic itself is in the concept of the power tussle between China and that USA. We know both contries as very powerful but I have always seen China as great in world economy power. It doesn't mean that the U.S is not great in some other aspect what has made US the most powerful is more than economy but China is respected in their aspect of Production. I just wish the position would just be attained by merit and not by strive.IMO


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Viscore on April 21, 2020, 03:18:57 PM
Probably because China has been very efficient in improving their economy, they compete with the US and now it seems like they win on this battle against the corona virus. US being the most developed country has now suffered, and after this pandemic, for sure, they'll struggle to recover and maybe that's the time that China will dictate their terms.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Maestro75 on April 21, 2020, 04:47:48 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
Anyone who thinks that the US will take this thing easy lying low with China is joking. Such a person does not know the mindset of the Americans. There will be a time for revenge on the Chinese. Donald Trump has a plan B, I can tell you that. More so there is a bit of hatred building up against China by the rest of the world for causing the outbreak and hiding it. Therefore many countries will not want to do business with China, even after this outbreak is over.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Gozie51 on April 21, 2020, 09:51:01 PM
Probably because China has been very efficient in improving their economy, they compete with the US and now it seems like they win on this battle against the corona virus. US being the most developed country has now suffered, and after this pandemic, for sure, they'll struggle to recover and maybe that's the time that China will dictate their terms.

This is the challenge for America really because China has started most of their businesses while America is still battling with the problem. The economic power tussle between China and America is something that has been long. We are hoping that everything is resolved


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: FanatMonet on April 21, 2020, 11:27:32 PM
China will have a strong position, but it’s not worth talking about its dominance, in the present world everything is very interconnected. If China does not have markets for goods represented by Western Europe and North America, they will not be able to dominate.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: imstillthebest on April 22, 2020, 04:32:36 AM
China will have a strong position, but it’s not worth talking about its dominance, in the present world everything is very interconnected. If China does not have markets for goods represented by Western Europe and North America, they will not be able to dominate.


yes i agree on it .  china dont all have the resources but other countries have it  ( every other countries rather ) .

 what china have now is that they can now freely move or work to create some useful tools for the virus  . this is the reason why people said china is now going to be a new ruler  but this is nothing  . once virus was over , china will look small again i believe  .  no one ruled the entire wolrd before afaik but all countries have different strenghts and weakneses  .


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: xSkylarx on April 22, 2020, 01:38:07 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

This pandemic has been ruining a lot of lives and even affecting the global economy. Lots of people have been dying and it has changed our way of living but despite everything, I don't think China would take over huge countries' economies like the US or even Europe. It still has a lot to go through or to prove. I believe that if things would get better, these countries will still recover.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: abhiseshakana on April 23, 2020, 01:25:06 AM
China will have a strong position, but it’s not worth talking about its dominance, in the present world everything is very interconnected. If China does not have markets for goods represented by Western Europe and North America, they will not be able to dominate.


yes i agree on it .  china dont all have the resources but other countries have it  ( every other countries rather ) .

 what china have now is that they can now freely move or work to create some useful tools for the virus  . this is the reason why people said china is now going to be a new ruler  but this is nothing  . once virus was over , china will look small again i believe  .  no one ruled the entire wolrd before afaik but all countries have different strenghts and weakneses  .


China is a country with great strength, but it also has various important weaknesses including:

Unfavorable demographic profile. The Chinese workforce peaked in 2015 and has passed the point of profit, the population is getting older, China will face rising health costs that will burden the Chinese economy significantly and worsen growing inequality.

Second, China needs to change its economic model. Expansion through exports can no longer be tolerated by its partner countries because mutualism is very small. Subsidies for state-owned enterprises, and the imposition of intellectual property transfers that enable China to profit in certain fields it controls. Deficiencies in the rule of law have diminished the interest of foreign investment and reduced international political support that is often provided. The high level of government investment and subsidies for state-owned enterprises has disguised inefficiencies in capital allocation.

The Leninist model fits perfectly with the Chinese imperial tradition, but rapid economic development has changed China and its political needs. China has become an urban middle-class society, but the ruling elite has remained trapped in old political thought. They believe that only the Communist Party can save China and therefore every reform must strengthen the Communist Party's monopoly on power.

China has long been calculating its internal and external conditions, so it has long been made a grand strategy framework to overcome China's domestic problems. Starting from colonialism 5.0 through the OBOR program everything aims to resilient China in the future. Becoming a big country is not only hope but a necessity considering the burden of the population that is borne by China is also large.

In the future, China will become increasingly important, and US-China relations will become a cooperative competition. No country, including China, is likely to surpass the US in overall power in the next decade or two, but America must learn to share power because China and other countries continue to gain power.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Snappycoco on April 23, 2020, 03:08:33 AM
They surely will. They are the only country who imposed strict lockdown not like U.S. and as we all know U.S.A. is now in the brink of collapsing in terms of economy.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: brotherwood12 on April 23, 2020, 03:59:40 PM
its still conspirasy yet , but i think before the pandemic begin china was half rule the world , with everything are made in china
they are good at making something with lowest cost so they can sell it lower than other


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Barbut on April 23, 2020, 06:37:48 PM
its still conspirasy yet , but i think before the pandemic begin china was half rule the world , with everything are made in china
they are good at making something with lowest cost so they can sell it lower than other

It would be better to say that this is just one more conspiracy theory, we have so many of them these days. I don't know who will rule after this crisis, but I assume there will be a lot of problems in the world after pandemic ends, we will probably encounter different problems, maybe even bigger ones than we have now! Chinese have a strong economy, and if they play everything right they can climb on top.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Averim on April 23, 2020, 09:33:56 PM
China made an international attractive imigy by helping europeans, i guess this time they will have a heavy word in this area of the world to. Probably China will not rule the global economy because countries will change their behaviour and will start to produce the basics in need.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: FlightyPouch on April 23, 2020, 10:07:41 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

Well despite the struggling of US And China to the current pandemic, I guess China will still in that position lower than the US. It has a long way to go, as they said it. Also, the pandemic is still bringing new problems to the country as new asymptotic cases are blooming last week.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: princesspoppy on April 23, 2020, 10:52:54 PM
It is China from where the virus started and the first country to recover from it. Now that the virus spreads all over the world and it seems that the government of each country are experiencing chaos and are not firm with their decisions whether to release the lockdown for their economy to recover and grow or to wait until the virus is fully controlled, here's China taking advantage on making its economy grow even more. They even have the guts to make research facilities in the West Philippine Sea. Well, they are really something. Their reputation are going down from their products, to this virus, and everything they do to make their economy grow. They may lead the economy for now, but as soom as America and Europe recovers, it will surely come back to normal where US leads the global economy.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: abhiseshakana on April 24, 2020, 12:59:52 PM
It is China from where the virus started and the first country to recover from it. Now that the virus spreads all over the world and it seems that the government of each country are experiencing chaos and are not firm with their decisions whether to release the lockdown for their economy to recover and grow or to wait until the virus is fully controlled, here's China taking advantage on making its economy grow even more. They even have the guts to make research facilities in the West Philippine Sea. Well, they are really something. Their reputation are going down from their products, to this virus, and everything they do to make their economy grow. They may lead the economy for now, but as soom as America and Europe recovers, it will surely come back to normal where US leads the global economy.

The COVID-19 pandemic brought a new dimension beyond measure, both to human life and interactions between countries, this pandemic seemed to be a complement to the trend of deglobalization in the last few years.

In the midst of a lack of global leadership, we can observe the emergence of a debate between the effectiveness of authoritarian and democratic governance models in dealing with outbreaks. Although the democratic and authoritarian government model has many variants and the efficiency of handling the outbreak is more related to state capacity. This issue is framed in the context of competition "the United States model" and "the Chinese model".

One example of a developing narrative is how the system is Authoritarian governments have led to the outbreak of a pandemic due to a lack of transparency, but it has also become the system of government that looks the most able to quickly resist the spread of the impact of the pandemic. On the other hand, bureaucratic hassles experienced by countries such as the United States, Britain, Indonesia, and the Philippines, where disharmony between the center and the regions can be a barrier to rapid response. Competition in the governance model is also followed by competition in the resilience of the economic model. It is not impossible for repercussions to arise in the form of mutual accusation and blame, increased suspicion and mistrust, or even the intention to punish one another.

Countries can take advantage of the current momentum to carry out the decoupling process, reducing the interdependent stickiness which has so far prevented large countries from hurting each other. Geopolitical considerations can re-infiltrate the country's choice of technology infrastructure, such as 5G, whose they will adopt. Countries need to be increasingly aware of the existence of certain parties who are trying to take advantage of opportunities to strengthen their geopolitical position or do not care about the crisis caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. Areas that are vulnerable to confrontation such as in the Middle East, Eastern Europe, the Korean Peninsula, or the South China Sea still need to be on surveillance radar.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Smitty Werben Man Jensen on April 24, 2020, 01:33:57 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
I am sure the United States will not remain silent about this, if China will be the next king there will be challenges from America, I saw the news today, that American warships were spying on Chinese warships, if this continued it might be tensions between the two countries will continue after Pandemic ends


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Febo on April 24, 2020, 03:57:39 PM
China made an international attractive imigy by helping europeans, i guess this time they will have a heavy word in this area of the world to. Probably China will not rule the global economy because countries will change their behaviour and will start to produce the basics in need.

China helped and will help those that need help. A month ago was South Korea and Iran. Weeks ago was Europe and USA now is Russia. Africa can be next week. That it is how it is done. You find best friends when you need help.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Lasky366 on April 24, 2020, 04:25:13 PM
This situation started from Chaina.But everyone still confused how it was happened but one thing we all know while whole world is suffering badly then chaina back in their business. So they are not still down & out like USA or France. So it's very much possible that chaina can be the king of world economy after this crisis moment.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: apaben on April 24, 2020, 05:20:52 PM
This situation started from Chaina.But everyone still confused how it was happened but one thing we all know while whole world is suffering badly then chaina back in their business. So they are not still down & out like USA or France. So it's very much possible that chaina can be the king of world economy after this crisis moment.
maybe there is truth in your words friend. I am very confident that China will not run out of strategy in the conditions as it is at the moment. because their government is extraordinary and it could be that China can become the king of the country's economy. China has always been called the most developed country in the industry, economy, and technology.Nothing wrong with them is making something behind the current conditions


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Sanugarid on April 24, 2020, 05:31:41 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
I am sure the United States will not remain silent about this, if China will be the next king there will be challenges from America, I saw the news today, that American warships were spying on Chinese warships, if this continued it might be tensions between the two countries will continue after Pandemic ends
I do really do think that America lead by Trump will be calm with the situation when this crisis ends. I don't see fair negotiation on both party, and the worst of what I think is that America got less to lose. If they see that they are not going to be the top, at least after China then the possibility of war is at large. America with European allies is so much for China to handle though it has Russia behind his back, hopefully it won't end that way.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Bagaji on April 24, 2020, 05:56:35 PM
Trump is trying to get the US reopened as soon as possible, which should limit the economic hit it's going to take (though who knows if it's too soon as far as the outbreak is concerned), and I don't think the US in general is going to get killed economically when all is said and done.  So if that's the case, I don't think China will end up more dominant than it already is--but that scenario certainly could happen.  China is a huge country with a lot of citizens and a booming economy.

Also, I think this "crisis" is going to end up being shorter than most people realize.  It seems like life has changed permanently around the world, but this isn't going to last forever.  I don't even think it's going to last more than a few more months, but we'll see.
How I wish this Pandemic will not last long as you rightly mentioned in your submission. Am so much afraid because the rate at which the virus is spreading and the number of death is on the increase on daily basis is scaring. I pray God will help the world by either making the vaccine available or other way out soon.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: qory on April 24, 2020, 10:39:39 PM
Looks easy for bigger country like China to get recovery after pandemic corona virus crisis, they have higher technology and always be the first country want to first line, although need time but China have power full how to recovery their economic crisis and help their people get back to work and enjoy their activities.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: shoreno on April 24, 2020, 10:49:19 PM
Looks easy for bigger country like China to get recovery after pandemic corona virus crisis, they have higher technology and always be the first country want to first line, although need time but China have power full how to recovery their economic crisis and help their people get back to work and enjoy their activities.

easy ? no it isnt  . someone said that covid already existed on them last year so they have been battling already for over a year   .

 they built rushed hospitals , cemetery and other useful places . they ended up many deaths before they finally beat covid  . when it comes to technology , china isnt the one that is inovative but i think it was japan and also usa  . right now , ive been seeing news about the second wave of the virus so i dont think they have fully  recovered now  .


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: ololajulo on April 24, 2020, 11:04:18 PM
if this pandemic came because of the tussle of top economy head from China, the target market take over may stumble. The country is exploiting the need for the underdeveloped and developed country especially those with crude oil or other attractive materials to form allies and access their money. however, dont they dont provide any attract incentive and citizens are hostile to the other tribe. lso language will always be barrier.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: vicoma on April 24, 2020, 11:59:47 PM
that might not be the case as they will have trust issue since this issue of coronavirus started from their country. Germany and I think also Japan are currently evacuating their businesses from China and giving them soft loans. A lot will happened after we overcome this current challenge that have stagnant businesses all over the world.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: bearexin on April 25, 2020, 05:22:41 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
I don’t know if that’s going to happen. I have been seeing a lot of people saying that China were behind the breakout of covid-19 and are the ones that released it. To be sincere, if that’s true, then do not deserve to be in the top position anywhere, because that shows evil and wickedness.

I am not fully sure about what people has been saying and whether it is true, but I have also seen those that talks about it in this forum, any country that will do such a thing to others doesn’t deserve anything to good. I would just try to believe that this is not true, until when I get to know about it.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: cosmofly on April 25, 2020, 05:45:20 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
that could happen if the US could not control this disease in the next 3 months. many businesses in the US will go bankrupt and debt will increase more debt, they will be destroyed soon and China will take this opportunity to rise. In fact, China's government has been on a journey to take over the world by lending money to many countries to build buildings and services. they have enough precedent to rise above all and America should be alert at this stage.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Sirait on April 25, 2020, 01:11:20 PM
that could happen if the US could not control this disease in the next 3 months. many businesses in the US will go bankrupt and debt will increase more debt, they will be destroyed soon and China will take this opportunity to rise. In fact, China's government has been on a journey to take over the world by lending money to many countries to build buildings and services. they have enough precedent to rise above all and America should be alert at this stage.
this is all our fault from the beginning, we are too trivial and friendly to the outside world, in fact, our great enemy is making a devastating scenario. the United States will be destroyed from the inside slowly but surely, we are not aware that our biggest enemy is communist China, I am not here talking about politics but that's the reality that's happening, we just don't see it

China has its own agenda at the moment, and I am very sure that in the next few months we will see the true form of China, just look at this time China became a WHO donor after the US stopped funding to WHO, the real devil will soon be seen, hopefully, the world will realize


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: nancy on April 25, 2020, 01:41:42 PM
This could be +1 point to theory than china created this virus


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: verita1 on April 25, 2020, 02:45:15 PM
If you read the story of Li Wenliang the doctor who warned of the new Coronavirus in Wuhan. It gives you outrage again to see all the havoc that Covid19 has wreaked on all levels of humanity. Because around the Coronavirus, everything has been seen, too many errors, cover-ups, and private interests.

The Chinese doctor who tried to warn others about coronavirus. (06/02/2020)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51364382 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51364382)

Coronavirus kills Chinese whistleblower doctor - BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6iikPfpXl0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6iikPfpXl0)

The Chinese government is the one that has best fought the Covid19 pandemic. The nation has not recorded more deaths from the virus and is already moving its economy as the first step to normality in that nation.
What we have left is to get out of the Coronavirus and work hard to recover the economy.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on April 25, 2020, 07:23:05 PM
The Chinese government is the one that has best fought the Covid19 pandemic. The nation has not recorded more deaths from the virus and is already moving its economy as the first step to normality in that nation.
What we have left is to get out of the Coronavirus and work hard to recover the economy.
The reason there is not much recorded death than the rest of the countries is because they are not providing the real data and they are covering up everything, can you logically believe what they are telling when the entire world is struggling and they are providing far less patients and mortality. To get out of the crisis is not easy like we think, most of the countries have lockdowned the manufacturing sector as well as the retail sector and the number of busines that will go bankrupt is really high around the globe and how those can be recovered will be a huge struggle.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: fudster on April 25, 2020, 07:37:04 PM
If you read the story of Li Wenliang the doctor who warned of the new Coronavirus in Wuhan. It gives you outrage again to see all the havoc that Covid19 has wreaked on all levels of humanity. Because around the Coronavirus, everything has been seen, too many errors, cover-ups, and private interests.

The Chinese doctor who tried to warn others about coronavirus. (06/02/2020)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51364382 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51364382)

Coronavirus kills Chinese whistleblower doctor - BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6iikPfpXl0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6iikPfpXl0)

The Chinese government is the one that has best fought the Covid19 pandemic. The nation has not recorded more deaths from the virus and is already moving its economy as the first step to normality in that nation.
What we have left is to get out of the Coronavirus and work hard to recover the economy.

It would take extraordinary investigation to prove all these. After this pandemic and how China had helped countries recover from the pandemic, it may really be impossible to impose some sanctions on them even if proven. The economy of China had grown this big that almost all rely on them already, they are the ones going to give sanctions instead to countries giving headaches to them.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Wilhem Jager on April 25, 2020, 08:39:54 PM


For sure China will be rule the world, they get the virus and maybe the vaccine. One thing is curious, is that in Europe are those who have sold masks and other medical materials. If not to dominate the world at least to get in the head.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: South Park on April 25, 2020, 08:45:38 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
The Chinese economy is heavily dependent on selling stuff to Europe and the US, do you really think they are not going to be affected if no one buys the stuff they produce? Their internal market is never going to be enough to fill that demand, so their factories will have to reduce their production and in may cases they will have to close down affecting China in the process, make no mistake no one is going to win this and if China emerges as the next and only superpower that will be because it was going to happen anyway and not because of this crisis in particular.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: carter34 on April 25, 2020, 09:33:10 PM
and if China emerges as the next and only superpower that will be because it was going to happen anyway and not because of this crisis in particular.

On the other opinion to this, I would agree that if China becomes the world power, it is because of the effect of covid-19. Example is that, China has gone back to business of supplying medical support to countries of the world and this means money is coming to them. Also recognition as some smaller countries would see them as helper and there economy will start going faster more than other countries.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Naida_BR on April 26, 2020, 11:31:47 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

China is the world's first economy already.
There was not any need for the coronavirus outbreak to destroy the other countries and bring China to the top. The fact now is that China is going to strengthen its position as the strongest economy in the world.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Sadlife on April 26, 2020, 12:29:03 PM
It's possible, as we can see in the news that China already solve the virus problem with strict quarantine lockdown to not spread the virus to the mass population and they've already open up businesses and their economy is back to normal. While in America and other EU countries, are struggling to control the pandemic and it even worsen the situation in already collapsing stock market before even Covid-19 came.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: bittraffic on April 26, 2020, 12:55:52 PM
It's possible, as we can see in the news that China already solve the virus problem with strict quarantine lockdown to not spread the virus to the mass population and they've already open up businesses and their economy is back to normal. While in America and other EU countries, are struggling to control the pandemic and it even worsen the situation in already collapsing stock market before even Covid-19 came.

Probably so. There had been lots of theories about this pandemic. One article is that the Wuhan lab that was studying viruses was originally from the US which Obama had moved to Wuhan and this is what I've read. This crisis is purposely made to reset the world as some articles were saying. We just can't take the news that were saying by all these media because it seem like they are all paid to do thier lies.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Savemore on April 26, 2020, 03:09:52 PM
It's possible, as we can see in the news that China already solve the virus problem with strict quarantine lockdown to not spread the virus to the mass population and they've already open up businesses and their economy is back to normal. While in America and other EU countries, are struggling to control the pandemic and it even worsen the situation in already collapsing stock market before even Covid-19 came.

Probably so. There had been lots of theories about this pandemic. One article is that the Wuhan lab that was studying viruses was originally from the US which Obama had moved to Wuhan and this is what I've read. This crisis is purposely made to reset the world as some articles were saying. We just can't take the news that were saying by all these media because it seem like they are all paid to do thier lies.
There are many conspiracies in the internet, many says that the virus originated from the laboratory of Wuhan where it is on purposed because they cannot beat USA in war. They say that the world war III already started and the china used virus to dominated the world. The next superpower is the China and it is sad to say that the economy of USA is starting to collapsing and there is now a transition of power that is currently happening and we should be aware of it.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: tvplus006 on April 26, 2020, 03:24:34 PM
The Chinese economy is heavily dependent on selling stuff to Europe and the US, do you really think they are not going to be affected if no one buys the stuff they produce? Their internal market is never going to be enough to fill that demand, so their factories will have to reduce their production and in may cases they will have to close down affecting China in the process, make no mistake no one is going to win this and if China emerges as the next and only superpower that will be because it was going to happen anyway and not because of this crisis in particular.

It is natural that the consumption of goods that China previously exported will be greatly reduced after the crisis. But the economies of other countries will also shrink. Therefore, even after reducing production, the Chinese economy will look stronger.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: silversurfer1958 on April 26, 2020, 03:26:22 PM
I am not entirely with your opinion. It is clear that this disease is the main cause of recession worldwide. All nations suffer loss of money and human lives. China has suffered damages to the US and Europe for failing to prevent the COVID-19 virus from spreading around the world. I have heard that many American and European factories will withdraw from China to other countries like Vietnam and Mexico. Thus, China will lose a significant income. And they will face a severe economic crisis after the COVID-19 pandemic.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: fudster on April 26, 2020, 04:21:06 PM
I am not entirely with your opinion. It is clear that this disease is the main cause of recession worldwide. All nations suffer loss of money and human lives. China has suffered damages to the US and Europe for failing to prevent the COVID-19 virus from spreading around the world. I have heard that many American and European factories will withdraw from China to other countries like Vietnam and Mexico. Thus, China will lose a significant income. And they will face a severe economic crisis after the COVID-19 pandemic.

Moving their factories to Vietnam or Mexico will just make more losses while they can just enjoy the cheap labor in China. US and EU had made a lot of enemies in the past which involves bombing. China isn't into bombing and killing, they are into business. What they should just be doing it to not fight the development. 

Let's just accept the fact that China is better with what they are doing. Every other country doesn't have to like China but rather build a trading relationship with China.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Rafael_Carrero on April 27, 2020, 04:31:18 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
Let's analyze how countries deal with the pandemic. Looks like coronavirus means the end of America expansion.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: TheGreatPython on April 29, 2020, 10:15:06 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
We really don’t know where things are heading to with this. Right now China is dominating in sales and not just in Africa like some have said here, but in other continents, especially in the Europe.

There are lots of countries in the Europe that have made huge purchase of test kits and as of recently Scotland made a huge order from a seller in China. If you do your research you will come to realize that most sales they made were not even coming from Africa, but from these other countries. China is supposed to compensate the world after everything that has happened, they should be blamed for it if you look out how everything started.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: ecnalubma on April 29, 2020, 02:57:45 PM
I think China can’t take advantage of the situation, whether this crisis is man made or not most nations specially America and in Europe will sue them to pay for the damages for sure. If this is China’s plan in the first place to put the world into recession then definitely they made a wrong step.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: carlisle1 on April 29, 2020, 03:24:36 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day
It is just happen that they are late victim and china had already stopped the virus in their region.
and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king
This cannot be tell so far and this is very early to tell even if the US is the most infected country region now.
and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
even whatever China is involving in this Virus and their country is not that affected yet US will remain super power.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on April 29, 2020, 03:30:11 PM
I think China can’t take advantage of the situation, whether this crisis is man made or not most nations specially America and in Europe will sue them to pay for the damages for sure. If this is China’s plan in the first place to put the world into recession then definitely they made a wrong step.

If any country can make use of the situation, it is China. They are one of the few nations with surplus cash. Even a large part of the US federal debt is owned by the Chinese government (in the form of US treasury bonds). They may or may not be willing to invest their hard earned cash in this situation. But then, the other countries should allow that as well.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: bittraffic on April 29, 2020, 06:28:58 PM
If we assume that China really went to recovery after the “victory” over the pandemic, then what is happening in the world looks like China’s victory in some kind of war.
The economies of the West collapse, oil goes into negative positions, the oil companies of the West are going bankrupt. A war without bullets?


It seems like that. If they can make countries submit without war, the better.

It's going to happen anyway, China is winning at every battle here. We know for the fact they've once made it to the top before the Spanish came colonizing countries. The Chinese had been making friends all over Asia which is why history said they were the best merchants even that time.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: elisabetheva on April 30, 2020, 08:27:01 AM
I think China can’t take advantage of the situation, whether this crisis is man made or not most nations specially America and in Europe will sue them to pay for the damages for sure. If this is China’s plan in the first place to put the world into recession then definitely they made a wrong step.

That certainty cannot yet be proven that China really wants to take advantage of this epedemic, even though it actually started from China. the demands of the US and European countries could be due to politics which did not want to accept that China could pass the epedemic well and the US and Europe are now experiencing an epedemic dilemma.
if really want to make a profit from this epidemic why now all countries receive Chinese assistance so that the epidemic can be finished. Actually, without this epidemic, China must indeed be recognized that their economy is very advanced and can be seen in all sectors of China can play an active role.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Arkann on May 01, 2020, 11:44:23 AM
It is very difficult to imagine something, how events will develop around the world and what will be the consequences of the coronavirus.  but we all drew attention to the extent of the problems in China and how the Chinese government and people coped with the spread of coronavirus.  If we compare what is happening in China and what is happening in the richest and most developed country in the United States, then in America there were much more problems and many were surprised that the United States could not fully cope with the spread of coronavirus, compared with China.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: umbara ardian on May 01, 2020, 12:05:14 PM
In my view, China is seriously affected by this disease. Many companies have left China and moved to other countries, and this will bring China's economy down. If this disease does not occur, I believed that in 2021 or 2022 China would be the world's top economically, but now it cannot.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: peter0425 on May 01, 2020, 12:32:33 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
If this happen then it will be there's an obvious reason why China has being mentioned to be the reason of this Pandemic the shaken the world.

There are so many issue that has been thrown to China because so much of these cases seems to be coming from them and this kills almost million of people now around the world.
In my view, China is seriously affected by this disease. Many companies have left China and moved to other countries, and this will bring China's economy down. If this disease does not occur, I believed that in 2021 or 2022 China would be the world's top economically, but now it cannot.
Nope they are not that affected compared to what happened in US and Europe.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Asusnumbaone on May 01, 2020, 02:56:12 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
If China rule the economy  I think most of the other countries will be have benifits because of most of production in the world are located in chine such as cellphone,laptop and ohter gadgets. China has low production cost that'swhy if china become the economy king the world will be benifited


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Ozero on May 01, 2020, 03:46:13 PM
All countries have now lost a lot due to the fight against coronavirus and the introduction of quarantine measures. It is still difficult to say who will lose the most in economic development here. However, if the Chinese government launches its digital yuan this month, and given that they have already begun to quit quarantine, then this state has many chances to become a leader among other states. However, if China begins to develop rapidly, other states can join their common efforts against it and do not allow dictatorship in the economic sphere. There are so many ways to do this.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: fudster on May 01, 2020, 06:16:56 PM
All countries have now lost a lot due to the fight against coronavirus and the introduction of quarantine measures. It is still difficult to say who will lose the most in economic development here. However, if the Chinese government launches its digital yuan this month, and given that they have already begun to quit quarantine, then this state has many chances to become a leader among other states. However, if China begins to develop rapidly, other states can join their common efforts against it and do not allow dictatorship in the economic sphere. There are so many ways to do this.

It might just happen anytime soon. Regardless of whether they have controlled the virus or not, they are still big that their economy isn't affected. Some may say their government had concealed the numbers, it doesn't matter now. We don't even care how much deaths they have because the only that matters now is whether we can survive along with them.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Averim on May 01, 2020, 06:22:58 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
Considering how good they managed the entire Sars situation, they have big changes to use the most fortunate economic strategy, so probably China will be the richest country in the world.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: R.A.Y on May 02, 2020, 09:31:34 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
Considering how good they managed the entire Sars situation, they have big changes to use the most fortunate economic strategy, so probably China will be the richest country in the world.
your scenario is good too but it needs to be remembered that many rich countries don't show their wealth, I think China is now gaining a strategic place where they have achieved technological development so fast that many countries recognize the sophistication of some of their technologies.
 Their crypto era is a bit more advanced about the notion of blockchain technology even though in their country it hasn't been officially endorsed but their society has started it


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: nomenclatur on May 02, 2020, 04:42:13 PM
anything can happen in a country like the United States is now the worst economic crisis will occur and deaths will continue to rise in the United States that has been seen throughout the world is now a reality of China will be the country with the strongest economy the rules of the United States will declare if it will happen? we can see later it will happen or not.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Indymoney on May 02, 2020, 04:48:22 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
Considering how good they managed the entire Sars situation, they have big changes to use the most fortunate economic strategy, so probably China will be the richest country in the world.
China's think thank is doing good decisions for their economy because they have some very stick policies for this all and they are not thinking about any International law or system they are doing this all for their own peoples just because of this they have very strong ecomomy and this crisis is not hurting them as its happening in Europe and USA surely they will rule the world after this all.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: mersal on May 02, 2020, 09:54:56 PM
anything can happen in a country like the United States is now the worst economic crisis will occur and deaths will continue to rise in the United States that has been seen throughout the world is now a reality of China will be the country with the strongest economy the rules of the United States will declare if it will happen? we can see later it will happen or not.
They are not strong since USA trying to frame that China is the reason for this spread now most of the countries have the same stance towards China so they get hit economically in long term.And USA still strong even after so much people got affected and for the next few years they will still remain the strongest economy of the world because they got enough reserve compared to other countries and stock values are still calculated in USD not in Yuan.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Gozie51 on May 03, 2020, 08:32:04 AM
anything can happen in a country like the United States is now the worst economic crisis will occur and deaths will continue to rise in the United States that has been seen throughout the world is now a reality of China will be the country with the strongest economy the rules of the United States will declare if it will happen? we can see later it will happen or not.

It won't be a very easy overtaking of economy by China. Although that China has been supplying medical equipment to different parts of the world in exchange of cash in starting there economy, the US too is giving aids and donations too to some country despite being soaked in this devastation. Time is going to determine how the control of the economy will go.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: vaultman on May 03, 2020, 10:21:57 AM
They are already on the top of the world. All world is on lockdown and they are not. They can work, produce, doing anything that people in another countries can't do right now due to pandemic. Therefore, their economy is growing, and the economy of other countries is deteriorating every day


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Yamifoud on May 03, 2020, 11:54:29 AM
It is too much to know that China is spreading its market across the border and getting more allies amidst the pandemic. It is to believe that they are taking advantage of it and probably not only in business matters but some other reason alike to rise. That is why the USA put blame on China and the conspiracy about the pandemic. It is either China makes it or not but the people are mostly pointing out China for this cause and it makes difficult to know who's telling the truth because they are also throwing back to the USA.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Viscore on May 03, 2020, 12:13:27 PM
They are already on the top of the world. All world is on lockdown and they are not. They can work, produce, doing anything that people in another countries can't do right now due to pandemic. Therefore, their economy is growing, and the economy of other countries is deteriorating every day

Prior to the pandemic, they are not in the top yet, but after this pandemic, they will be, or even now because the top countries are struggling right now but China find a way to contained the virus, that is why US is now accusing China for this biological weapon but they could not prove it right now.

Big countries are battling, hopefully this will not end up with a world war them using biological weapon as the poor or underdeveloped countries is the one which will suffer the most.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: target on May 03, 2020, 07:14:53 PM
They are already on the top of the world. All world is on lockdown and they are not. They can work, produce, doing anything that people in another countries can't do right now due to pandemic. Therefore, their economy is growing, and the economy of other countries is deteriorating every day

I wonder however if they can make money still when their economy also depends on exportation. How are we going to buy newly created TVs and appliances from them when the countries surrounding China are locked down?  But it makes sense that they are helping countries affected by the covid.



Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: wozzek23 on May 04, 2020, 04:16:04 PM
Not really going to be "king" will they? I mean sure they did economically alright compared to other nations, and they did sold a lot of items and sold some kits and so forth and so forth. However you do realize that this is just short term thing. Other nations will recover, it may take 6 months, maybe 1 year, maybe 10 years, I don't care how long it will take for them to recover but eventually they will recover. And yes china made some quick profit because they were early on with the virus and that allowed them to recover before everyone else and have the extra items ready to sell, that is why I do understand the short term profits.

However when you look at the whole world, the popularity of china wasn't high, people didn't really liked their dictatorship, and with this it went down even more.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: bitbunnny on May 04, 2020, 04:41:19 PM
They are already on the top of the world. All world is on lockdown and they are not. They can work, produce, doing anything that people in another countries can't do right now due to pandemic. Therefore, their economy is growing, and the economy of other countries is deteriorating every day

I wonder however if they can make money still when their economy also depends on exportation. How are we going to buy newly created TVs and appliances from them when the countries surrounding China are locked down?  But it makes sense that they are helping countries affected by the covid.



Yes, their economy depends great deal on export but borders will be not closed forever. Their economy is recovering rapidly and when the countries open they will be ready.
Once again China will be ahead of Europe and US and it's very possible they will be leading economy in the world. Part for this also lies in the mentality and discipline of their people, not just economy and financial potential.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: gentlemand on May 04, 2020, 05:04:28 PM
If it became clear that China was going all out to install themselves as the world number one I wonder how far other countries would go to put a lid on that even if it hurt themselves financially. My guess is - not very.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: betty11 on May 05, 2020, 12:59:16 AM
That won't happen, world powers may dump China and move production out of China if they are found of deliberately inflicting this pains on the whole world to gain economic dominance. You can't use virus that kills thousands and shutdown economy and people to dominate the world space. The people should violently react or they are docile.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: mongkie on May 05, 2020, 01:14:48 AM
It is too much to know that China is spreading its market across the border and getting more allies amidst the pandemic. It is to believe that they are taking advantage of it and probably not only in business matters but some other reason alike to rise. That is why the USA put blame on China and the conspiracy about the pandemic. It is either China makes it or not but the people are mostly pointing out China for this cause and it makes difficult to know who's telling the truth because they are also throwing back to the USA.

eversince china is indeed a business giant based on history and they have community in every country in the world. USA controlled media worldwide but the economy is collapsing. i think china do not what to play the role of usa now i think they are solely business oriented because if china wants to be like US they have done it many years ago.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Negotiation on May 05, 2020, 03:17:16 AM
I don't think China can be like the United States but they will not be hindered if they continue to trade in this crisis. Although China is responsible for the virus-like other countries China will rule the world as the king of the economy once the crisis is over Because the world community supports China China is doing business with all countries to keep the economy afloat because of the epidemic but it could be a lot harder with the United States The United States is the worst hit by the epidemic.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: TIDOVEE on May 05, 2020, 03:49:56 AM
How do they even get to attain that? I know China is trying when it comes to production and technology but I have always that that they are restless about the position, and I kept imagining why, I feel this should not be by all means. We all know that China is on point,but maybe by my nature I wouldn't like it attained by tussle. Well, I believe this will help cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Assface16678 on May 05, 2020, 06:52:48 AM
We all know that the china is the very first country who's got a lot of infected and many people getting problem about the pandemic coronavirus outbreak and some of them made a lot of infected people that's why their economy makes failure because of the canceled transactions to avoid spread the virus rapidly but after a few months there is a news release that the china is fully recovered to the virus and does not have any new cases it is quite suspicious because after a few months they are one of the most number people got cured so there is a chance that they have already the cure or the antidote to the virus spreading Now their economy are making a comeback to the market and some of their business are opened which the other country are still problematic because they don't have any cure yet and also the source of the foods and other supplies needed to survive into their houses are getting short. So there are a lot of hoax and rumors that the china is already planned this kind of scenario that they will fall down the economy of the different country and makes a huge advantage at the right time so they conquer the world.

I don't think China can be like the United States but they will not be hindered if they continue to trade in this crisis. Although China is responsible for the virus-like other countries China will rule the world as the king of the economy once the crisis is over Because the world community supports China China is doing business with all countries to keep the economy afloat because of the epidemic but it could be a lot harder with the United States The United States is the worst hit by the epidemic.

China is also known or called before as the sleeping giant they are one of the most reach countries before because they only circulate the transactions inside their country which can be happened again that cause more power into the world of economy and market.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Viscore on May 05, 2020, 07:01:13 AM
That won't happen, world powers may dump China and move production out of China if they are found of deliberately inflicting this pains on the whole world to gain economic dominance. You can't use virus that kills thousands and shutdown economy and people to dominate the world space. The people should violently react or they are docile.
What if this virus is not proven produce by China? the thing is some countries are assuming that it was China who created the virus but they cannot prove it, all of what they are saying is based on speculation only. So let us look the world now, which country is standing tall? I see China for now, and no evidence they can't sanction China.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Febo on May 05, 2020, 02:54:32 PM
China have predicted 1.2% GDP growth in 2020. But I am not sure how can they predict GDP in times like this when we have no ideas how will second covid-19 wave look like. Most countries GDP should decrease around 5% and those relying on tourism 10%.

China reported that its first quarter GDP contracted by 6.8%, what is about the same as it grew in Q4 2019. So right now are at same level as in October 2019.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: FanatMonet on May 05, 2020, 07:06:23 PM
Now our world is such that China cannot develop without huge US and EU markets. Therefore, I would not talk about the hegemony of China, China is too focused on the export of its various products, and without markets, world trade is violated, and if there are such specific goods that can only be sold in the US or the EU.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: raidarksword on May 07, 2020, 11:39:37 AM
China has big economy even before this pandemic occurs and it show their powerful economy status in the world even more because of how they act fast to overcome the crisis wherein it all originated the corona virus. Being given the economic king title after this crisis, i think china has the power and force to overrun USA after this because  even virus hit them they still stand strong and continue to be great production source.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Gheka on May 07, 2020, 02:15:59 PM
That won't happen, world powers may dump China and move production out of China if they are found of deliberately inflicting this pains on the whole world to gain economic dominance. You can't use virus that kills thousands and shutdown economy and people to dominate the world space. The people should violently react or they are docile.
What if this virus is not proven produce by China? the thing is some countries are assuming that it was China who created the virus but they cannot prove it, all of what they are saying is based on speculation only. So let us look the world now, which country is standing tall? I see China for now, and no evidence they can't sanction China.
Agreeing that other countries have no evidence and have yet to find the source of this disease, blaming China may be unfounded but there is no evidence that does not mean China will escape responsibility, China is the first country to spread the disease, other countries may not punish directly but they will certainly have a gap with China. These policies may not appear right away, but until the epidemic ends, the total losses are calculated, China's economy will probably be affected when no one wants to cooperate


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: carlisle1 on May 07, 2020, 03:23:36 PM
That won't happen, world powers may dump China and move production out of China if they are found of deliberately inflicting this pains on the whole world to gain economic dominance. You can't use virus that kills thousands and shutdown economy and people to dominate the world space. The people should violently react or they are docile.
What if this virus is not proven produce by China? the thing is some countries are assuming that it was China who created the virus but they cannot prove it, all of what they are saying is based on speculation only. So let us look the world now, which country is standing tall? I see China for now, and no evidence they can't sanction China.
Agreeing that other countries have no evidence and have yet to find the source of this disease, blaming China may be unfounded but there is no evidence that does not mean China will escape responsibility, China is the first country to spread the disease, other countries may not punish directly but they will certainly have a gap with China. These policies may not appear right away, but until the epidemic ends, the total losses are calculated, China's economy will probably be affected when no one wants to cooperate
Blaming anyone is not what we need now,because at least they could help the world find the cure or how they made the progress against the Virus.
I believe this will help cryptocurrency.
That will be all our faith mate because that is all what we can have in chinese government as they are anti bitcoin eversince so at least they can help other cryptos.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: coinfinger on May 08, 2020, 08:17:30 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
We are not sure about this, but I am not wishing for China to become world power, and that's because I don't really like how their government functions, they don't have freedom in their own country and their government controls them lol, such a government doesn't deserve to be the world power.

I know a lot of people are going to say this because they, China, has been making a lot of sales; health products such as masks, ventilators, and tests. Despite that a lot of things these days are being produced in China, they still have a long way to go. That they produce everything doesn't mean that other countries can't produce theirs too, it's just because there are lots of lower-wage workers in China.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: arallmuus on May 08, 2020, 12:31:20 PM
We are not sure about this, but I am not wishing for China to become world power, and that's because I don't really like how their government functions, they don't have freedom in their own country and their government controls them lol, such a government doesn't deserve to be the world power.

I know a lot of people are going to say this because they, China, has been making a lot of sales; health products such as masks, ventilators, and tests. Despite that a lot of things these days are being produced in China, they still have a long way to go. That they produce everything doesn't mean that other countries can't produce theirs too, it's just because there are lots of lower-wage workers in China.

They will be one wether you like it not especially when things are calming down after the covid 19 pandemic. If you look at China compared with US or any other powerhouse country, they you will notice a distinct difference between how they handle this pandemic. At the current stage, even US is still struggling while China has calmed down and getting ready to start the race earlier


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: momchilandonov on May 09, 2020, 11:47:35 AM
I hope that EU and USA wont allow it. We need freedom outside the china


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: arallmuus on May 09, 2020, 12:49:03 PM
The virulent disease has pretentious mutually China and the United States. China was clever to be in charge of it, but after loads of months of extra special efforts. It caused gigantic fiscal destruction near was well.

Aside from their extra effort, there are tons on conspiration regarding the virus was created by China to create some sort of chaos to the world. Alot of countries especially US and most Eruope tend to blame China for this

I hope that EU and USA wont allow it. We need freedom outside the china

You will still get your freedom, even if China emerge into a top leading country it doesnt mean anything unless your country has alot of debt to them. You will stil live pretty much the same as usual


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Opeyemi01 on May 09, 2020, 08:23:07 PM
Exactly, they are already winning the race


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: verita1 on May 09, 2020, 11:41:44 PM
I would not like to see that China is positioned as the first world power because the Coronavirus was not well managed from the beginning. Now we are all in danger from the virus, perhaps the best thing that would happen after the pandemic is that there are substantial changes in the most powerful countries.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: fabiorem on May 10, 2020, 04:59:42 AM
The "crisis" will not end, OP.
This is the new "normal".
Get used to it.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Subbir on May 10, 2020, 05:54:14 AM
I hope that EU and USA wont allow it. We need freedom outside the china

Not only us but no country within the world will allow it even as China wants the independence of their country so all the countries of the planet want their own independence. albeit the crisis ends, countries alongside China won't allow China to rule because of the king of the economy China is taking such a step instead of using this bad situation as a chance.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Viscore on May 10, 2020, 06:13:03 AM
That won't happen, world powers may dump China and move production out of China if they are found of deliberately inflicting this pains on the whole world to gain economic dominance. You can't use virus that kills thousands and shutdown economy and people to dominate the world space. The people should violently react or they are docile.
What if this virus is not proven produce by China? the thing is some countries are assuming that it was China who created the virus but they cannot prove it, all of what they are saying is based on speculation only. So let us look the world now, which country is standing tall? I see China for now, and no evidence they can't sanction China.
Agreeing that other countries have no evidence and have yet to find the source of this disease, blaming China may be unfounded but there is no evidence that does not mean China will escape responsibility, China is the first country to spread the disease, other countries may not punish directly but they will certainly have a gap with China. These policies may not appear right away, but until the epidemic ends, the total losses are calculated, China's economy will probably be affected when no one wants to cooperate
We really don't know what country started this virus, what we know is that China has the biggest number of people infected with the virus before and they were able to defeat it, so the rest of the world is now blaming china because they can't contain the virus, this accusation is baseless if not proven but China will surely improve their economy as they have recovered first in this crisis.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Reatim on May 10, 2020, 08:56:00 AM
We are not sure about this, but I am not wishing for China to become world power, and that's because I don't really like how their government functions, they don't have freedom in their own country and their government controls them lol, such a government doesn't deserve to be the world power.

I know a lot of people are going to say this because they, China, has been making a lot of sales; health products such as masks, ventilators, and tests. Despite that a lot of things these days are being produced in China, they still have a long way to go. That they produce everything doesn't mean that other countries can't produce theirs too, it's just because there are lots of lower-wage workers in China.

They will be one wether you like it not especially when things are calming down after the covid 19 pandemic. If you look at China compared with US or any other powerhouse country, they you will notice a distinct difference between how they handle this pandemic. At the current stage, even US is still struggling while China has calmed down and getting ready to start the race earlier
Maybe because they are the real one behind this pandemic to make this happen?to become the most powerfull country in the world and to beat US and European nation.

We already.read many articles about how this pandemic starts and how did spreads.

But yeah after this crisis?it is China who will stand strong and may claim the title that they have been seeking tor long time.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: abhiseshakana on May 11, 2020, 07:46:47 AM
Aside from their extra effort, there are tons on conspiration regarding the virus was created by China to create some sort of chaos to the world. Alot of countries especially US and most Eruope tend to blame China for this
Learn from the history of the NAMRU 2 laboratory and with an analysis of who has benefited most from the pandemic, not China who originally threw the Coronavirus. Because it gets information on the global elite playing, China changed survival mode to winning the game mode. So China turns victims into victories, China all out uses the Corona pandemic to increase its prestige and level at regional and global levels. What the US and Europe blame is not misinformation but socialist and authoritarian systems so that the mass media do not provide detailed & transparent information.

There are no eternal friends and opponents in international politics, only eternal national interests.


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I hope that EU and USA wont allow it. We need freedom outside the china
Currently, because Trump is in power China is fought by the US because China shifts US dominance in trade and finance and is now trying to test American military strength in the Asia Pacific region. After the pandemic ended Trump had already laid a stumbling block for China and several of China's OBOR partner countries by crossing out the status of their developing countries. Trump already plans not to pay US foreign debt to China as the price China must pay for the Corona pandemic.

But it would be a different scenario if, in the November elections, Joe Biden won the presidency. It is likely that China will again become a strategic US partner as in Obama's day.

OBOR has spread to prove that China has begun colonialism 5.0. The counter-strategy undertaken by America is military strengthening in the Asia Pacific region. Like the creation of American and Australian military bases in Papua New Guinea.

https://www.iias.asia/the-newsletter/article/heritage-diplomacy-along-one-belt-one-road


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: BD Money365 on May 11, 2020, 09:46:49 AM
I have no doubt that in the near forthcoming China will grow to be the major cheap in the world, overtaking the United States. But that said, the COVID 19 epidemic will retain a imperfect blow on this upcoming course. The virulent disease has pretentious mutually China and the United States. China was clever to be in charge of it, but after loads of months of extra special efforts. It caused gigantic fiscal destruction near was well.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: billykannithi on May 13, 2020, 04:09:21 PM
It will be very early to say that China will win this US-China Trade War and China will replace America as the No. 1 position in the world.

The war is just beginning, and China is in a good position in this trade war if look at to stock market overview. But remember, China is an emerging economy, with a lot of risks,  limitations and a serious risk of serious decline if there is any bad move.

But BRI is a Big project that China everything to accomplish and If the BRI is successed, I belive China will be a winner


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: TheUltraElite on May 27, 2020, 05:29:33 AM
I have no doubt that in the near forthcoming China will grow to be the major cheap in the world, overtaking the United States.
All speculation and nothing real. US has remained a super power and so has China. Nobody will overtake each other because behind the scenes both are developing and both countries have spies set up everywhere.

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China was clever to be in charge of it, but after loads of months of extra special efforts.
In my opinion they were foolish to not have declared the problem to WHO so as to face the public outcry. Still the miners of bitcoin there have suffered.

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It caused gigantic fiscal destruction near was well.
Occurred in every affected country and is still happening. We have to be careful of how we spend our money at this time and focus on digital payment systems.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: drlukacs on May 27, 2020, 06:02:12 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
It absolutely can happen. China is safe because they have the antidote to the virus that they spread to the world. they know that they are only under the US and now America is preparing to lose the throne of the economy. Currently the Chinese government also offers Dyuan and will soon appear on the CMC in the future. it will be a stepping stone for blockchain businesses in China to grow accordingly. They will soon manipulate this whole crypto market!


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Subbir on May 27, 2020, 01:18:19 PM
Although China has been ready to develop a cure for the disease it's not been ready to control everything The virus is reappearing America and Europe are spending their days in crisis but they're going to never allow China to rule the planet because the king of the economy after the crisis is over. The crypto market won't be under anyone's control everyone will manage as he wishes. Everyone will overcome the crisis by making money from crypto through blockchain technology.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Cnut237 on May 27, 2020, 01:33:58 PM
China will rule world as economy king

I think this is extremely likely in the next few years, irrespective of the COVID-19 crisis. China was catching the US rapidly anyway. Indeed China overtook the US on purchasing power parity GDP a few years back.
http://statisticstimes.com/economy/united-states-vs-china-economy.php


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: PavelMed on May 27, 2020, 04:26:45 PM
China will rule world as economy king

I think this is extremely likely in the next few years, irrespective of the COVID-19 crisis. China was catching the US rapidly anyway. Indeed China overtook the US on purchasing power parity GDP a few years back.
http://statisticstimes.com/economy/united-states-vs-china-economy.php
I would not want the Chinese to rule the world.
But most likely their economy will be the least affected by the epidemic. They were able to recover quickly, but the world continues to fever


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: mycryptocoin on May 27, 2020, 05:25:01 PM
Do you think the numbers given by China are fake and the fact that Corona's death toll and influence on China is much greater? I think that China and the United States are both countries that have been seriously damaged by this pandemic and that has made the US-China trade war worsen.With the current economic potential of the US, it can win against China but in the future, it is unlikely that China will lose. The US economy is weakening, the population is aging rapidly. High public debt ratio leads to many consequences. Petro Dollar - the strength that the US holds is also weakening due to the signed agreements on oil between China - Russia - Iran. Moreover, China's economy is a young economy with great momentum. If the "Belt Road" project (new silk road) is adopted, it will be a direct Chinese attack on the US, and could defeat the US, making China the No. 1 power in the world. gender, as their ancestors once did: Genghis Khan


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Zackgeno96 on May 27, 2020, 05:45:05 PM
China will rule world as economy king

I think this is extremely likely in the next few years, irrespective of the COVID-19 crisis. China was catching the US rapidly anyway. Indeed China overtook the US on purchasing power parity GDP a few years back.
http://statisticstimes.com/economy/united-states-vs-china-economy.php
I would not want the Chinese to rule the world.
But most likely their economy will be the least affected by the epidemic. They were able to recover quickly, but the world continues to fever
China can't rule the world now after the Corona blunder by the Chinese government and also the fact that they have been supplying defective medical supplies to the countries instead of helping them with the crisis that has been spread due to negligence by Chinese officials. So after this crisis ends the world countries will try to find an alternative to the Chinese products so they will go to other Asian countries that supply cheaper products like India, thiland etc.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Guryon_master on May 27, 2020, 06:18:33 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

well,  there are no exciting to heard about than what lies ahead of today's unwanted situation. But still it remains unsure until we reached the finish line of this matter, so whether China will take the position or not nothing will change that there will be another pandemic that will shaken to everyone even to very throne of the mighty in this world.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: gantez on May 27, 2020, 08:56:58 PM
Do you think the numbers given by China are fake and the fact that Corona's death toll and influence on China is much greater? I think that China and the United States are both countries that have been seriously damaged by this pandemic and that has made the US-China trade war worsen.With the current economic potential of the US, it can win against China but in the future, it is unlikely that China will lose. The US economy is weakening, the population is aging rapidly. High public debt ratio leads to many consequences. Petro Dollar - the strength that the US holds is also weakening due to the signed agreements on oil between China - Russia - Iran. Moreover, China's economy is a young economy with great momentum. If the "Belt Road" project (new silk road) is adopted, it will be a direct Chinese attack on the US, and could defeat the US, making China the No. 1 power in the world. gender, as their ancestors once did: Genghis Khan


The pandemic is not giving America some breathing space for economic growth but the system is gradually getting up. Because of the existing trade war, America is pointing to China about the intentional act of the spread of the virus that has attacked the world and US seriously. This accusation on China I believe will make US to double there effort towards getting back so as not to allow China the suspected agenda.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: arallmuus on May 27, 2020, 10:37:03 PM
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But still it remains unsure until we reached the finish line of this matter, so whether China will take the position

Is there even an end line for this kind of race? There is no end line for this, China could be leading for now and even 100 years ahead from now. The fact is now that China is the first country that suffer this pandemic and also the first one to start things normally in their country.

So while everyone else was still struggling with pandemic, China has restarted everything back into normal. Pandemic hasnt end completely in China as well but atleast they are not suffering from it anymore compared with other country

P.S : You wont even know if 100 years ahead, China will be leading the race to find another planet to live on  ;)


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: qory on May 28, 2020, 03:22:16 AM
China still become favorite country and have many impact after their rule for world economic, I think many countries still take and facility by China like my country, in the fact China try to make other countries down with their difficult rule. Now China get medicine of their cases covid 19 and become economic world by selling their innovation to the other country.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Paycoinzzz on May 28, 2020, 05:34:17 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
Although the US is in danger of facing an economic recession, China still needs to yield a lot to Donald Trump. Although plagues are ravaging the United States, you should know that they have a very solid foundation! This is not the ravages of war, this only makes the American people more and more strong in spiritual values. they will soon return and continue to hold the top 1.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Nathanz on May 28, 2020, 08:01:26 AM
Saying that china ruling the world after is pandemic is too far from reality. Ruling is such a big word. I don't think China alone can rule the world because there are several countries out there that are more powerful than China. What I can only say is that China might benefit from this pandemic rather than suffer from it. Nobody knows what China can do.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: arallmuus on May 28, 2020, 06:31:33 PM
Saying that china ruling the world after is pandemic is too far from reality.

It is not too far when you consider that 80-90% of your goods are manufacted in China. Ruling the world doesnt really mean that they need to sit on some special throne or such but more about ruling it from economy aspect

Ruling is such a big word.

It is indeed.

there are several countries out there that are more powerful than China.

I cant see any other country except the US but currently we are discussing about the possibility of China ruling the world in economy aspect after the pandemic so it breaks down to China no matter how you see it. While the rest of the world still struggling , China has recover most of their economy aspect


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: abhiseshakana on May 31, 2020, 08:14:08 AM
Saying that china ruling the world after is pandemic is too far from reality. Ruling is such a big word. I don't think China alone can rule the world because there are several countries out there that are more powerful than China. What I can only say is that China might benefit from this pandemic rather than suffer from it. Nobody knows what China can do.

America as a superpower does not need to be debated anymore. But China is also not a power that can be underestimated. Proven American smart power diplomacy failed even many non-state actors who actually support China. Covid pandemic is a picture of neo-liberal divisions namely state actors and non-state actors facing each other.

Even in America alone, Non-state actors, Trump and the American Nation each have their own agenda. The American agenda remains, but Trump's agenda can change to suit his interests and the republican party behind him and the plutocrat groups that support him.
 
If Trump decides to use hard power and choose the military as a last resort to crush China, this will be very detrimental to China not because of losing weapons or the number of troops, but more because China has lost experience and the nine-dash line is a disaster for China because many countries are will form a coalition with America to protect its geographical sovereignty.

I'm worried that war is the choice that Trump has taken to hamper the coalition of nonstate actors and China. Because Trump needs a victory to win the November elections. Increased tensions in the southern China sea may only be a bluff by the US to spur the American weapons and defense industry.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: gabbie2010 on May 31, 2020, 10:28:14 AM
They are already on the top of the world. All world is on lockdown and they are not. They can work, produce, doing anything that people in another countries can't do right now due to pandemic. Therefore, their economy is growing, and the economy of other countries is deteriorating every day

Prior to the pandemic, they are not in the top yet, but after this pandemic, they will be, or even now because the top countries are struggling right now but China find a way to contained the virus, that is why US is now accusing China for this biological weapon but they could not prove it right now.

Big countries are battling, hopefully this will not end up with a world war them using biological weapon as the poor or underdeveloped countries is the one which will suffer the most.
The most vulnerable in this pandemic are the poor and underdeveloped countries as you rightly said look at Ecuador the virus have been raving them seriously,  my view on this issue is that it is indeed a biological warfare aimed at US, however I don't belief China will become the world power in post covid-19 era, US will use every available resources to bounce back stronger.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on May 31, 2020, 12:49:10 PM
Democratic countries, if they don't change the current trajectory, are doomed to fail. Because almost all of the democratic governments are being forced to follow populist measures to maintain their support levels. Now this is not viable in the long term, because as a result of the populist measures the federal debt will increase to unsustainable levels. China, being an authoritarian country doesn't need to go through these foolish steps.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: stiffbud on May 31, 2020, 01:06:55 PM
China will rule world as economy king

I think this is extremely likely in the next few years, irrespective of the COVID-19 crisis. China was catching the US rapidly anyway. Indeed China overtook the US on purchasing power parity GDP a few years back.
http://statisticstimes.com/economy/united-states-vs-china-economy.php
But a higher GDP doesn't mean China have become more powerful, there are many other things that come in play also.
Now there are many rumors that India and China are on the verge of war and also many countries are plotting against China for the main reason of this corona blunder and also supplying defective medical equipment and those countries are supporting India for making cheap products in order to bypass China, so if this happens then China will surely fall from its high and then we can see that America is still the superpower that we knew.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: abhiseshakana on June 01, 2020, 06:45:49 AM
But a higher GDP doesn't mean China have become more powerful, there are many other things that come in play also.
Now there are many rumors that India and China are on the verge of war and also many countries are plotting against China for the main reason of this corona blunder and also supplying defective medical equipment and those countries are supporting India for making cheap products in order to bypass China, so if this happens then China will surely fall from its high and then we can see that America is still the superpower that we knew.

India is indeed prepared by America to be its proxy in the future. Initially, America wanted to build India like America built China in the 90s but. But Corona made America second the program with India. Trump's concentration at the moment is tension with China, or more precisely a strategy battle between Trump and Xi.

Because India rejected Trump's proposal, Trump now relies only on his alliances with Australia and Japan to face China militarily. After smart diplomacy with India failed, now Indonesia will be used as a proxy by the US to fight China, because according to one minister in Indonesia there is an agreement with the United States to move 30 American industries from China to Indonesia. Indonesia is seen as important by America because Indonesia has a dispute with China over the issue of the South China Sea and most of China's rare metal smelter investment is in Indonesia. The disruption to the smelter will slow China to energy self-sufficiency and will remain dependent on oil.

His time is very short, the choice is only war or becomes president in the second period. Trump hit the WHO, globalist, and China coalition with Action. Officially ended the collaboration with WHO, threatening to close the Wall Street and the end was to forbid Chinese banks to carry out swift so that financial transactions from and from China would stop completely.

Many people wondered what Xi would do to counter America. Some predicted that the steps Xi would take were:

- Freeze all thousands of American companies in Hong Kong.
- Use proxies with Venezuela and Russia to fry black racist vs. white issues in America with the aim of escalating increased instability
- If Hong Kong can be communicated, the final step is to direct weapons to Taiwan.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: tbterryboy on June 01, 2020, 03:17:01 PM
China still become favorite country and have many impact after their rule for world economic, I think many countries still take and facility by China like my country, in the fact China try to make other countries down with their difficult rule. Now China get medicine of their cases covid 19 and become economic world by selling their innovation to the other country.
But I doubt that China will get something out of this, I feel like it could be opposite. But more importantly, I feel like nations finally are turning inside and making investments to themselves nowadays. Why? Because the planes are rarely flying, supplies are rarely coming in, which is why I think every nation realized that they need to have at least some stuff they build themselves to survive.

The things that are needed very much to stay alive, like food and goods that you buy during lockdown should not be imported from other nations. China is the biggest manufacturer in the world, with nations going more inwards it could hurt them the most but this would eventually hurt all export/import business in the world I am afraid. That is not something we could sustain for too long without a crisis yet again.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: princeyeboah on June 03, 2020, 04:00:36 AM
China has been coming out strong in terms of economy for the past few decades. It is among the few countries that are leading in the technology industry. It is also among the few countries that supplies goods and other services to countries especially in Africa, however, to become a global king in economy after the COVID-19 pandemic will take a lot other more efforts from China.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Rulelies on June 03, 2020, 07:59:10 AM
It’s actually going to be hard for china because the gdp is far from each other. Now US eyes are opened against china, so a trade battle will increase and likely china will loose in that. The US has more backing in the world than china. So after this pandemic just watch and see how the economy will boost again.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Nhor1011 on June 03, 2020, 09:30:09 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
I don't think China will take over the position of USA because we all know how strong and powerful the US even after this pandemic. And even US is affected too much with covid19,I don't believe that their economic status will be down and take over by the China. Ans because of the gap between this two country ,trading will be a problem for China to US.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Haunebu on June 03, 2020, 11:34:07 AM
While the rest of the world still struggling , China has recover most of their economy aspect
Nonsense. China was the first country to get hit by this COVID and is still struggling despite their claims that the virus is under control now. Their numbers are basically fake and they are painting a fake picture regarding their condition overall.

The whole Hong Kong situation at the moment further proves how unstable their situation truly is. On top of all this, they are facing issues with countries like the USA, India etc which complicates things even further.

Their economy will probably take a long time to recover. China ruling the world when the majority of the world has issues them at present(Boycotting Chinese products etc) is one of the stupidest statements I have ever heard in recent times.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: elisabetheva on June 03, 2020, 11:58:27 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
I don't think China will take over the position of USA because we all know how strong and powerful the US even after this pandemic. And even US is affected too much with covid19,I don't believe that their economic status will be down and take over by the China. Ans because of the gap between this two country ,trading will be a problem for China to US.

China and the US will remain economic superpowers and will not be affected at all with the pandemic they experience economically, but politically it is certainly very influential in the country especially the US which cannot quickly deal with the pandemic so that many are affected even the death rate due to the pandemic is very high. Even though China has passed the pandemic, a second wave has occurred and will continue to be repeated before there are drugs and vaccines. in principle, the developed world will quickly recover the economy when the pandemic is over but not for developing or poor countries, there will be a new pandemic namely famine or new debt to large countries or the IMF to boost their economies.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: btc_love on June 03, 2020, 12:30:08 PM
They wanted to do it. But they did not succeed. It is important to understand that it is not China itself that does this, but the backstage elites that exist in every state, including China.
We, ordinary people from all countries want one thing - that all people have everything good, that everyone lives in prosperity and harmony.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Lachrymose on June 03, 2020, 12:40:03 PM
China needs to sell products to consumer societies, such as Europe and the United States, to become the king of the economy. In an economic crisis scenario, since these societies cannot spend as much money as before, China will be the country indirectly affected negatively by this economic crisis. For this reason, I do not think that any country's economy may be good after a possible economic crisis, but there may be an industry transformation with breakthrough innovation for developing countries and they may become better economically in the following years. Apart from that, China is a much better country than before and many Chinese people have better living standards than people living in Eastern Europe.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Freeesta on June 03, 2020, 05:40:27 PM
Indeed, the pandemic caused minimal damage to the Chinese economy. Perhaps China developed this virus in the laboratory just for that. But what will happen to China after the pandemic is over, the countries will start an investigation in the direction of China, perhaps the investigation will give some conclusions, and then China will have to admit its guilt. At the moment, there is not enough information to blame China. I advise you to follow the news, perhaps soon we will learn something new.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Alert31 on June 03, 2020, 10:44:17 PM
Virus start from Wuhan China and we see that China is now recovering and not affected too much with this pandemic. Maybe they know the cure for this but they just hide it from other country because it is included to their plan  to conquer the world but I believed China will not succeed their evil plan to rule as economy king after this crisis. US will remain the king because we know that US is at top even in terms of economic and even they are most affected with the virus they are still a rich country.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: princeyeboah on June 04, 2020, 01:43:09 AM
Although China has been ready to develop a cure for the disease it's not been ready to control everything The virus is reappearing America and Europe are spending their days in crisis but they're going to never allow China to rule the planet because the king of the economy after the crisis is over. The crypto market won't be under anyone's control everyone will manage as he wishes. Everyone will overcome the crisis by making money from crypto through blockchain technology.
I'm not for the point that China will lead the world's economy but if it does in the global recession, it will be difficult for America to set a competitive run with it because the current riot in America has set the whole country in a great tumult. If this does not cease anytime soon, America is going to experience another recession for some time.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Negotiation on June 04, 2020, 03:46:14 AM
If there is a rift with the United States and there is an economic downturn the people of no state will allow China to rule as king They will live through the recession but will not lead as an economic power. America is a very developed country like China so it will take some time for them to overcome this recession very easily All desks have been infected by the virus and are trying to take control of everything according to their own warnings China is not doing anything.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Lynfax on June 04, 2020, 05:33:07 AM
Virus start from Wuhan China and we see that China is now recovering and not affected too much with this pandemic. Maybe they know the cure for this but they just hide it from other country because it is included to their plan  to conquer the world but I believed China will not succeed their evil plan to rule as economy king after this crisis. US will remain the king because we know that US is at top even in terms of economic and even they are most affected with the virus they are still a rich country.
First of all, China is trying to make everyone around believe that they're all good, strong, and pretty much ok, but thats simply not possible - their country relies on human power reaaaally much, so couple months break couldn't be ignored by their economy.
And US is the king in someway, but its power has the limit - and we are close to that limit.
Some economists predict that USA will be regenerating and working things out for the next decade to close the debt completely - thats horrible


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: abhiseshakana on June 04, 2020, 09:06:52 AM
But I doubt that China will get something out of this, I feel like it could be opposite. But more importantly, I feel like nations finally are turning inside and making investments to themselves nowadays. Why? Because the planes are rarely flying, supplies are rarely coming in, which is why I think every nation realized that they need to have at least some stuff they build themselves to survive.

The things that are needed very much to stay alive, like food and goods that you buy during lockdown should not be imported from other nations. China is the biggest manufacturer in the world, with nations going more inwards it could hurt them the most but this would eventually hurt all export/import business in the world I am afraid. That is not something we could sustain for too long without a crisis yet again.

China will still be a favorite in trade because of competitive Chinese product prices. As long as there is no economic embargo Chinese products will be an option. Also, don't forget that China is a country full of tricks and intrigue and many agendas are shrouded in an action especially outside China. Beginning to keep the Yuan value low until the print is covered with guaranteed multi-layered projects.

China is big in trade transactions, has a large reserve capital or large reserve currency. Therefore he will use a proxy. For example, China is investing in Africa in the form of foreign direct investment and FDI is used to attract dollars into China.

Why is China investing in projects outside of China especially in the manufacturing sector on a massive and aggressive basis through BRI (Belt Road Initiative)? The investment that China has in addition to the static infrastructure for binding, in the long run, is also dynamic infrastructure, especially in the export destination manufacturing sector. OBOR requires raw material for experts and even labor class workers from China. Which means that the economy in China is spinning so fast that the print-out issue does not create a bubble. But China received an additional USD in its foreign exchange reserves from products exported from its partner countries.

But don't forget that America as a superpower has integrated power and has a systematic global supply chain power. So that Chinapun still depends on America and relies on dollars.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Tahsin Kabir Kollol on June 04, 2020, 09:08:05 AM
It is true that the coronavirus has damaged the economy of most countries in the world, including China. But china controlled this pandemic quite successfully than others and started their economic activities.  China is a strong economic country but It can not rule the whole world suddenly. Because those countries who control the world economy recent day they do not want to China dominate the world economy overnight. There is also many trade war between China and other developed countries. So it can be possible that China will rule the world as an economy king after a long time but not recently.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: abhiseshakana on June 05, 2020, 02:10:38 AM
It is true that the coronavirus has damaged the economy of most countries in the world, including China. But china controlled this pandemic quite successfully than others and started their economic activities.  China is a strong economic country but It can not rule the whole world suddenly. Because those countries who control the world economy recent day they do not want to China dominate the world economy overnight. There is also many trade war between China and other developed countries. So it can be possible that China will rule the world as an economy king after a long time but not recently.

China is only great power and is not yet a superpower. China does dominate world trade and finance but China loses its fangs when it comes to America. Because as a superpower its dominance is integrated and because as the winner of world war two, America has the prerogative to regulate the world economy and world politics, which certainly benefits America because the winner takes all and America will maintain its hegemony.

America despite losing its dominance in trade and finance, but America dominates the economy, dominates the currency, dominates politics, dominates influence, and most has a deterrent effect is military domination with almost 800 military lapses worldwide. The dollar still controls more than half of international trade and the order of the economic system has been locked by America like the SWIFT system. China will think about dedolarization because after all the dollar is still used for China's economic stability.

China is indeed successful in controlling the pandemic but Taiwan and Vietnam are more glorious and deserve standing applause. Taiwan with its umbrella program and Vietnam with 0 dead cases.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: rodskee on June 05, 2020, 05:52:44 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

In reality and not just by media records?i Believe that China already has the King Nation for long time now,almost every country in the
 world has credit to china(i mean Biggest countries) in this record means they
are much capable financially or economically compared to those countries that has been always in the news of having good and wealthy
government.China will remain powerful and strong because they have strong
will and capacity.though i don't justify the issue of them being the
suspect behind the COVID virus.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: naikturun on June 05, 2020, 02:57:34 PM
When the pandemic began, the value of Usd and cYuan had risen against other currencies so this was not necessarily an absolute victory for China, yes even though the news had been rumored since last year that China would take the biggest economy if it could defeat the USA.
after many of imports done by America from China.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Chato1977 on June 05, 2020, 03:28:24 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

Yeah they will rule the world with Imitations and fake products.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: k@suy on June 05, 2020, 05:07:32 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.

Yeah they will rule the world with Imitations and fake products.
I dont think that would be possible in my humble opinion because there are a lot of countries that has a great power to rule the world like US and I dont think that the China can beat US. In reality nobody can defeat USA because they have the greatest machineries, weapons and equipment and their soldiers are well trained and ready to fight at any moment.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: botija on June 07, 2020, 05:18:20 AM
The Coronavirus started in China, and it hit them pretty bad. They had to close whole cities, suspend travels, and they won't recover from that over night. They will, but not over night.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: chrisculanag on June 07, 2020, 06:11:43 AM
China is the first virus affected and because of this , they lock all of the cities involved or there are many cases in this virus. And that is the good reason why china is to be a king because china make a good decision and lock all the transportation area that affected of corona virus. If all the countries make a good protection in there people i think the economy will rise up again. But i know this crisis will end soon.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Harriti on June 07, 2020, 06:28:48 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
In fact, this corona virus has been leaked in China and it can vary in many forms! So that will make the invention of vaccines very long, leading to the economy will be seriously affected before the vaccine is widely sold. This is an economic virus and it was created to be intentional. China suddenly had very good disease control, but it started spreading to Europe very quickly, especially the United States. It seems that the plan has been quite successful and Americans are facing the risk of an economic crisis.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Viscore on June 07, 2020, 07:20:43 AM
The Coronavirus started in China, and it hit them pretty bad. They had to close whole cities, suspend travels, and they won't recover from that over night. They will, but not over night.

You have to note that China is a big country, they close some cities but there are some cities or provinces that are open for business and that is Shanghai, their business capital, I read that they are still open for business even during the times when their number are spreading fast.

And also, if you ask China, they would not say that the virus originally came from their country, only other countries are accusing them, and in fact, they even accuse that it was China's biological weapon to destroy other countries and they China will rule.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/05/trump-threatens-action-china-covid-19-200503101120358.html


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Wexnident on June 07, 2020, 07:48:10 AM
I don't see why they would. I mean, everyone was hit, whether it be the first or the last one, everyone was hit by the pandemic. Even if China was the first one to recover since they were pretty much the one that started it, doesn't mean that they'd suddenly rule over everyone else. Still, this doesn't mean that they wouldn't remain as one of the countries at the top of the economy. Even with US being hit and having problems right now, I doubt countries could exceed them just based on that.

As for China trying to exceed US, well, let's see about that. They're currently trying to rush the development of the Digital Yuan which they say that they would use it to exceed the US dollar. Well, all of this is still speculation on their part tbh, and even if the US is currently undergoing a lot of problems with regards to the economy, they've stood strong even in the past so China has to do something big to actually win.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: abhiseshakana on June 07, 2020, 08:29:09 AM
I dont think that would be possible in my humble opinion because there are a lot of countries that has a great power to rule the world like US and I dont think that the China can beat US. In reality nobody can defeat USA because they have the greatest machineries, weapons and equipment and their soldiers are well trained and ready to fight at any moment.

Many countries assume that if imitating is a solution, then many countries will imitate as did China because essentially imitating it is a process of repetition in order to become skilled. Practice makes perfect and excellence is nothing but repetition. Although China was initially named as an imitation country, China can now modify and even innovate. But the transformation of China from a developing country into a great power country in a few decades is an extraordinary achievement. Even China shifted American dominance in trade and financing.

Anything possible in America which is famous as the home of the brave and the land of a free. Currently, China is not able to eject America as a world hegemon because America has won experience with higher flight hours and consolidated power. Especially if the arms war that eventually becomes the cornerstone of the completion of competition China vs. America, China will think again.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: tvplus006 on June 07, 2020, 02:16:04 PM
...As for China trying to exceed US, well, let's see about that. They're currently trying to rush the development of the Digital Yuan which they say that they would use it to exceed the US dollar. Well, all of this is still speculation on their part tbh, and even if the US is currently undergoing a lot of problems with regards to the economy, they've stood strong even in the past so China has to do something big to actually win.

I don't understand how the digital yuan can be a competitor to the dollar if the Chinese government regularly devalues its national currency. In order to become a reserve currency, you need its stability, otherwise your savings will be devalued just like the yuan.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: botija on June 14, 2020, 03:30:10 AM
The Coronavirus started in China, and it hit them pretty bad. They had to close whole cities, suspend travels, and they won't recover from that over night. They will, but not over night.

You have to note that China is a big country, they close some cities but there are some cities or provinces that are open for business and that is Shanghai, their business capital, I read that they are still open for business even during the times when their number are spreading fast.

And also, if you ask China, they would not say that the virus originally came from their country, only other countries are accusing them, and in fact, they even accuse that it was China's biological weapon to destroy other countries and they China will rule.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/05/trump-threatens-action-china-covid-19-200503101120358.html


China is a big country but closing whole cities, while essentially locking down everything else hurt them. Not to mention no international flights. Look at the satellite pollution levels. The pollution levels went dramatically down for China. That does not look like a country that was open for business.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on June 14, 2020, 05:40:29 AM
I dispute the fact that China will rule the world after corona virus crisis.mean while I was told this pandemic originated from China and China experience many damage in their country.
For the death lost occur in China will also bring their economy down because some people who handle vital positions in their industry might be one of the victims of corona virus pandemic.
Assuming that China  has 100% in population and death rate is 35% how many is remaining, so therefore the country will regained lost first before building up economy.from my view China will rise when other countries corona virus affected much both their economy and populational strength, so the different between them and other countries is the gravity of their management,except they have strong leaders that focused on the growth of their economy.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: kolbalish on June 14, 2020, 06:48:30 AM
The whole scenario can be changed due to this pandemic outbreaks. The world order can be changed for this because many countries already getting down for the Lockdown and China seems recover it and their market value is getting bigger than before. So its indicate something for the future to rule the world as a super power.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: shushu9977 on June 14, 2020, 03:08:50 PM
I think, China can take over any country (USA/European country) as economy king. Because, still now china is dominating day by day by economy and gdp and otherthing otherwise USA is loosing their dominating position day by day.    


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on June 14, 2020, 04:37:58 PM
First of all, China needs to recover completely from the virus pandemic. I guess you guys haven't noticed this:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-reports-highest-coronavirus-case-rise-two-months-lockdowns-ease-n1231030

A large spike in new COVID 19 infections have been reported from China. And the worst part is that this new cluster was reported from the capital city (Beijing). China is still a long way away from defeating the pandemic.

That said, AstraZeneca has now started the 3rd and final phase of human testing for the COVID 19 vaccine. None of the Chinese pharmaceutical companies have been able to reach there till now.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: lepbagong on June 16, 2020, 09:37:40 AM
I think, China can take over any country (USA/European country) as economy king. Because, still now china is dominating day by day by economy and gdp and otherthing otherwise USA is loosing their dominating position day by day.    
although there is no corona pandemic, we already believe that the Chinese economy is quite good and can compete with the US and other developed countries. so China is also not benefited by the corona pandemic because they are also affected and now many countries are also experiencing, China is now entering the second pandemic phase. but we have to admit that at the time of the pandemic they showed the world they could do everything quickly, this made sure that they were a state of technology that was always renewable. the world will recognize that China can control the economy because all sectors have been entered and prices are quite competitive.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: abhiseshakana on June 22, 2020, 06:55:33 AM
I think, China can take over any country (USA/European country) as economy king. Because, still now china is dominating day by day by economy and gdp and otherthing otherwise USA is loosing their dominating position day by day.    
One military observer in my country said that the pentagon is now simulating various forms of war simulation that will be carried out by China, to hybrid forms and asymmetrical war to counter the US VUCA strategy. There is one strategy that if China uses it, the effect will be more deadly than the corona effect for other countries. Namely, if China deliberately fires weapons on its own territory and makes the US a scapegoat, then China can force its citizens to exodus out of China. The wave of refugees flooding the countries bordering China will not be rejected by many countries for humanitarian reasons. Millions of people will flood Europe, Pakistan, Persia & Southeast Asia

One of China's ideals is "China is not a country, China is a civilization." With the spread of Chinese throughout the world, the smaller the burden on the country and indirectly the easier it is for China to rule the world.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: daneal stev on June 22, 2020, 06:54:58 PM
I agree with you with everything you say. I think that China will control the world and will be the queen of the economy after the end of the Corona crisis. The Chinese economy is very strong and it is difficult to fall. This is what really happened.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: FlightyPouch on June 27, 2020, 01:20:03 AM
and if China emerges as the next and only superpower that will be because it was going to happen anyway and not because of this crisis in particular.

On the other opinion to this, I would agree that if China becomes the world power, it is because of the effect of covid-19. Example is that, China has gone back to business of supplying medical support to countries of the world and this means money is coming to them. Also recognition as some smaller countries would see them as helper and there economy will start going faster more than other countries.

Well, we don't know what will really happen. All we know is that if a country gets the vaccine first or maybe get something effective to be used in this pandemic, it will be profiting a lot of money. Remember when Spain ordered a lot of kits from China, that will be the case. But we can't still say that China is profiting from this since they are really onslaught by this. They are also affected by it badly.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Janation on June 27, 2020, 01:41:58 AM
I agree with you with everything you say. I think that China will control the world and will be the queen of the economy after the end of the Corona crisis. The Chinese economy is very strong and it is difficult to fall. This is what really happened.

You are right that China is extremely powerful but I don't think that China will rule the planet because of the king of the economy. nobody will accept China asking if most are blaming China for this crisis.

I don't think we should overrate that to be the ruler of the planet.

It doesn't mean that you are reigning as the biggest economy, they would be able to do that. Despite the fact that China is the one who started this pandemic, they are also affected by this largely. Every country is affected by all of this, what we can do know is just take care of ourselves since as long as we are here, we will be able to restart.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: BitSat19 on June 27, 2020, 10:27:55 PM
I agree with you with everything you say. I think that China will control the world and will be the queen of the economy after the end of the Corona crisis. The Chinese economy is very strong and it is difficult to fall. This is what really happened.

You are right that China is extremely powerful but I don't think that China will rule the planet because of the king of the economy. nobody will accept China asking if most are blaming China for this crisis.

I don't think we should overrate that to be the ruler of the planet.

It doesn't mean that you are reigning as the biggest economy, they would be able to do that. Despite the fact that China is the one who started this pandemic, they are also affected by this largely. Every country is affected by all of this, what we can do know is just take care of ourselves since as long as we are here, we will be able to restart.
Right now most of peoples feeling too much about China may be they have some edge but they cannot control the world they can do some strong hold on few areas but still its very long way to go for them they have good policy about trade and their local manufacturing system is also very good but few other countries also have good potential to restart good after this all if they able to control political stability.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: imstillthebest on June 27, 2020, 10:39:52 PM
I agree with you with everything you say. I think that China will control the world and will be the queen of the economy after the end of the Corona crisis. The Chinese economy is very strong and it is difficult to fall. This is what really happened.

You are right that China is extremely powerful but I don't think that China will rule the planet because of the king of the economy. nobody will accept China asking if most are blaming China for this crisis.

they can blame wherever they want but china can still do thier thing with or without the help of other countries because china can still grow on thier own . they are known  as one of the smartest people in the world and also one of the supplier of many good things . who do you think will be at lost , them ? no i dont think so . im not a fan with them iether and im not protecting them but im just saying what i know on that country .  if ever theyl rule the world , theres no bad thing that happen but theyl also help out other countries


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Negotiation on June 28, 2020, 04:09:15 AM
I agree with you that China is a very developed country and they can solve their country's problems without the help of other countries There is nothing to blame China for China will help many countries in the world to overcome the current bad situation in the country. They have already sent medical teams to many countries But China will not be able to rule the world as the king of the economy. It will take a long time here.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Wexnident on June 28, 2020, 04:42:24 AM
I don't understand how the digital yuan can be a competitor to the dollar if the Chinese government regularly devalues its national currency. In order to become a reserve currency, you need its stability, otherwise your savings will be devalued just like the yuan.
Well, we never know what's really going on with the Chinese government tbh. Me saying that they'll exceed the US dollar all came from what they've actually said, and could just be empty words of threat so the US would feel some form of pressure. Still, it isn't all without any backing, with how big the economy of China is, they have the potential to uproot the US from its place. That is if the US lets them.
I don't think we should overrate that to be the ruler of the planet.

It doesn't mean that you are reigning as the biggest economy, they would be able to do that. Despite the fact that China is the one who started this pandemic, they are also affected by this largely. Every country is affected by all of this, what we can do know is just take care of ourselves since as long as we are here, we will be able to restart.
Even if every country was hit, ngl, the current difference between how the US handled it and China handled it shows how China is able to recover from the pandemic. Not to mention that a lot of issues suddenly popped up from the US, with the racism protests as well as the upcoming recession of the US dollar which is in the near future now. China, on the other hand, was able to remove the virus, albeit temporarily and they're already managing the second wave and how to prevent/stop it from getting larger.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: CarnagexD on June 28, 2020, 05:50:52 AM
The whole scenario can be changed due to this pandemic outbreaks. The world order can be changed for this because many countries already getting down for the Lockdown and China seems recover it and their market value is getting bigger than before. So its indicate something for the future to rule the world as a super power.

China already have a huge economic growth even if Covid-19 doesn't exists. They are the number 1 manufacturer of some goods or products and their economy is really stable and growing because of that. Now, that we are experiencing this pandemic, they are still the number 1 manufacturer of face masks, gloves, alcohol, and other products that is essential to fight this virus. Although, the virus originated from their country, they are controlling it effectively and the number of cases their is not that huge enough to destroy their economy right now. They properly minimize the virus and some of the countries which are affected by this virus are those who are really struggling economically as of now.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: OrangeII on June 28, 2020, 12:37:13 PM
I agree with you that China is a very developed country and they can solve their country's problems without the help of other countries There is nothing to blame China for China will help many countries in the world to overcome the current bad situation in the country. They have already sent medical teams to many countries But China will not be able to rule the world as the king of the economy. It will take a long time here.
Well, China is a very smart country and has a very good strategy for that. we don't know how they will develop after this crisis. however, the development of the China strategy is still developing today. At present, I think only China is free to move because they have been very skilled in curing Covid-19.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: The cure on July 01, 2020, 09:32:37 AM
I think China is so smart because they thought it would create a pandemic that collapse in other rich countries. They know how can they survive the virus they are created, so they can rise quickly and when that happens they will surely reign.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Axelseseclevz on July 01, 2020, 11:43:43 AM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
China is very smart because they think that they will rule the whole world as economy king through this covid virus from their country but i think it will not happen because even there is a pandemic,every country has a different strategy to maintain their economic status and on how to overcome from this circumstances. US is the still at the position depite of being the most affected of the virus.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: rodskee on July 01, 2020, 11:57:19 AM
I think China is so smart because they thought it would create a pandemic that collapse in other rich countries. They know how can they survive the virus they are created, so they can rise quickly and when that happens they will surely reign.

In the sense of collapsing other countries to gained supremacy, China wanted to be on top from all aspects
especially with economic part of the world.

China is very smart because they think that they will rule the whole world as economy king through this covid virus from their country but i think it will not happen because even there is a pandemic,every country has a different strategy to maintain their economic status and on how to overcome from this circumstances. US is the still at the position depite of being the most affected of the virus.

If the virus will continue spreading from each sides of the world, even wealthiest and super powers will not
be exempt from falling.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: suzanne5223 on July 01, 2020, 12:00:22 PM
As we see everyday many people are dying every day in Europe and America and their economy is going down every day and economy specialties are guessing that the USA will lose his position as economy king and china will take over and we are already seeing that china economy didn't drop much and there already making money in this crisis.
China is very smart because they think that they will rule the whole world as economy king through this covid virus from their country but i think it will not happen because even there is a pandemic,every country has a different strategy to maintain their economic status and on how to overcome from this circumstances. US is the still at the position depite of being the most affected of the virus.
Enough of you guys saying China will rule the world or they think they are smart, because every country have the right to be number one in the world if they have it takes and the last time i checked China never rule the world in any aspect except their cheap electricity which was the reason some private companies moved their most activities to China.
With that been said, i think we should focus more on the things that are very important.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: elisabetheva on July 01, 2020, 12:23:28 PM
I think China is so smart because they thought it would create a pandemic that collapse in other rich countries. They know how can they survive the virus they are created, so they can rise quickly and when that happens they will surely reign.

not as easy as you imagine what you said, until now it has not been proven that China has indeed created the corona pandemic. if initially the pandemic certainly can not be denied, it originated from China, it is very unfortunate that the pandemic cannot be clearly informed. so that many countries are shocked because the corona pandemic is so contagious.

I am also not convinced that with this Corona pandemic that China will be able to recover quickly and be able to control the world economy by getting rid of the US. because we also have to admit that China is indeed economically quite advanced, all fields are dominated, especially for the price of goods that are known to be cheap.
but each country has its own advantages and cannot always be controlled by China, the strengths of each country will be different to dominate the market share.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: btc78 on July 01, 2020, 12:23:40 PM
China is in their move in doing such and not only in economy but also in ruling the world.

They have multiple cases of taking other countries territory to be their defense and economic zone and we can prove that with so many news updates around the world most affected is Asian Countries in the pacific.

maybe this same reason why USA is now on the move in preventing this to happen?

Lets see in the next year after this pandemic what will be the evaluation regarding this matter.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Heart18 on July 01, 2020, 02:06:40 PM
China is a growing country because of numerous hardworking Chinese businessmen. And in connection with this crisis, we all know that Covid19 had first started in China before it spreads all over the world. After all their losses - lives, jobs, businesses and the economy, they are now slowly getting back into place. Since they were also the first Country who already recovered from this Crisis while the other countries are still struggling with this Pandemic, most especially in America and Europe and other Arab Countries...well, I think its possible for them to rule the world if the Virus won't spread again in China.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Blackrain13 on July 01, 2020, 02:40:32 PM
It will not happen that China will rule the world as economy king just because of the covid virus they created. I believed every country will overcome this pandemic and those rich country will have also a great strategy to depend their economic status against China.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: BigBos on July 14, 2020, 03:10:29 AM
From the start, I think almost 10 to 15 years of age that China is holding their throne as one of the biggest stockholders in the world most especially on electronics enthusiasm including building materials. So I saw the positive impact of excessive growth so meaning there is a possibility to be king after the crisis end.
you could say they are patient and smart people. Well, I'm not exaggerating, but I think China is starting to dominate the economy at this time. even they are very enthusiastic to make their products used more than others. I would not be surprised if, after this crisis, China controlled the world economy


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Negotiation on July 14, 2020, 03:47:32 AM
It will not happen that China will rule the world as economy king just because of the covid virus they created. I believed every country will overcome this pandemic and those rich country will have also a great strategy to depend their economic status against China.

China is one of the most developed countries in the world Many countries have extended a helping hand because as soon as the virus is cured the world will return to normal. China does not rule the world as the king of the economy because everyone is trying to get rid of the epidemic.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: KnightElite on July 14, 2020, 04:46:41 AM
The communist party of the China is gaining more power all over the world and it is not a joke because there is now a transitioning of wealth and power. The China is becoming more powerful country and it is the reason why many countries are seeing it as a danger. I'm sure that you are aware that China is the top 1 country in terms of manufacturing because they have the larget machinery industry. Most of the companies all over the world have warehouse or office in their because the payment to workers are more cheap and the supplies there have low costs.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: cheezcarls on July 14, 2020, 05:15:55 AM
In my own opinion, China is trying to "take over" the world by releasing these viruses and making sure it's out of control. I just don't believe that it came from the Wuhan market, but in the lab itself.

So COVID-19, hantavirus, bubonic plague, etc., all came from China. They're also gained tyranny in Hong Kong by passing the national security law, and it took away freedom of speech and independence from the Hong Kong citizens. No disrespect, but this is the reality. 

Even if they are doing this slowly but surely, they can't take over the world. They still cannot surpass the United States on the economic side.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: abhiseshakana on July 16, 2020, 03:13:08 PM
The communist party of the China is gaining more power all over the world and it is not a joke because there is now a transitioning of wealth and power. The China is becoming more powerful country and it is the reason why many countries are seeing it as a danger. I'm sure that you are aware that China is the top 1 country in terms of manufacturing because they have the larget machinery industry. Most of the companies all over the world have warehouse or office in their because the payment to workers are more cheap and the supplies there have low costs.

The Chinese Communist Party can be strong because there is strong support from red capitalists, red capitalists do not pose a direct threat to the party, instead they are one of the party's most important supporters. Party officials and business people in China have the same viewpoint; both guarded the political system in China from pro-democracy movements because they were convinced that the system that had survived until now had made them more prosperous.

The integration between prosperity and power in China is indeed designed to perpetuate an authoritarian political system. In addition, Xi Jing Ping and the Chinese Communist Party flooded the support and appreciation of employers for their success and commitment in fighting corruption by carrying out mass arrests and sentencing officials who were convicted of corruption.

China is an example of an anti-mainstream country and a foolish period with other countries' opinions and against all world rules. Xi gives freedom in building the country's economy for every citizen of China, with NO RULE. Copying is an obligation in China, after good at imitating, China modifies and innovates. Excellence does not exist, only repetition leads to success. The key to the success of the Chinese Communist Party and Xi Jing Ping is being against the world and making your own rules for prosperity.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-37748241
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-corruption_campaign_under_Xi_Jinping


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Ozero on July 17, 2020, 06:19:01 PM
Of course, the balance of power on the world stage is likely to change after the end of the coronavirus. However, the dollar still rules the world. And in the USA they can print as many dollars as they want. They already want to reimburse $ 2,000 to each resident for the damage caused by the coronavirus. With such measures, the US economy will recover very quickly.
If China aspires to a leading role in the world economy, then states can unite and adopt trade and other sanctions against this country.
True, there is no longer unity in the world. It is not even between the countries of the European Union. Therefore, any scenarios are possible in the near future.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: reliable on July 17, 2020, 06:50:56 PM
I think China is so smart because they thought it would create a pandemic that collapse in other rich countries. They know how can they survive the virus they are created, so they can rise quickly and when that happens they will surely reign.

During the world in the lockdown time China was open  and their economy is running in normal phase while the world is shut short of. They have really done well to contain the virus . Though they may have to face the consequence on future if known that it was spread purposely and other countries may stop importing from China and will move to other countries .


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Golftech on July 17, 2020, 07:05:26 PM

During the world in the lockdown time China was open  and their economy is running in normal phase while the world is shut short of.

Very smart to continue business while other countries are in major lockdown, china lock medias so there's no negative news to flow around.

They have really done well to contain the virus .

Part of it yes, but the other side, they are good preventing medias to report what's the real score inside.

Though they may have to face the consequence on future if known that it was spread purposely and other countries may stop importing from China and will move to other countries .

If being proven, this will be the after effects of this virus. Worse, super power countries might condemned them for doin it.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: electronicash on July 17, 2020, 07:47:15 PM
Of course, the balance of power on the world stage is likely to change after the end of the coronavirus. However, the dollar still rules the world. And in the USA they can print as many dollars as they want. They already want to reimburse $ 2,000 to each resident for the damage caused by the coronavirus. With such measures, the US economy will recover very quickly.
If China aspires to a leading role in the world economy, then states can unite and adopt trade and other sanctions against this country.
True, there is no longer unity in the world. It is not even between the countries of the European Union. Therefore, any scenarios are possible in the near future.

printing 2000USD for every family every month will greatly affect the value of USD. its interesting how US made it appear like its not affecting

this winter, it will be difficult for countries experiencing winter and many will suffer from hunger while covid virus is still spreading. china is much prepared for the coming winter since they had already opened their economy and trading. if indeed they have successfully contained the virus there won't be anything to worry for them.



Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: finaleshot2016 on July 17, 2020, 09:11:27 PM

During the world in the lockdown time China was open  and their economy is running in normal phase while the world is shut short of.

Very smart to continue business while other countries are in major lockdown, china lock medias so there's no negative news to flow around.
They take this pandemic as an advantage for them to grow their economy while the other countries are still suffering from it. They should allow investigation regarding about COVID-19 so people will definitely know the real origin of the virus.
They have really done well to contain the virus .
Part of it yes, but the other side, they are good preventing medias to report what's the real score inside.
Even the cases on their country was suddenly stopped and I guess they're manipulating the data.
Though they may have to face the consequence on future if known that it was spread purposely and other countries may stop importing from China and will move to other countries .
If being proven, this will be the after effects of this virus. Worse, super power countries might condemned them for doin it.
The problem is, China says that their aren't the source of the virus even it started in Wuhan, China so it's kinda difficult to solve this case.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: Yatsan on July 17, 2020, 11:24:24 PM
Certainly, maybe that would be the outcome after this pandemic. But is it really important anymore? I think instead of focusing on who will be the ruler or the king of economy, we must pay attention on how we will manage the recovery of each and every country's economy. On how each and every country will help each other out to do a fast recovery for the sake of its people. No one must be thought to be dominant right after this pandemic because we all know that we have already suffered a lot and what we need to think about is how we can recover from this crisis all together.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: CHENIEN on July 18, 2020, 04:48:37 AM
In favor of China, I think in historical context through the research on gathering. The multiple power inside China is too much stronger than before, suchlike armory and powerful weapon it's either the land or water. So it's hard to break if the world war is happening.If possible I think the community and economy are affected and the financial crisis is booming. And I guess if their country Will ruled as economy king, many people are hungry.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: electronicash on July 18, 2020, 09:55:52 PM
Certainly, maybe that would be the outcome after this pandemic. But is it really important anymore? I think instead of focusing on who will be the ruler or the king of economy, we must pay attention on how we will manage the recovery of each and every country's economy. On how each and every country will help each other out to do a fast recovery for the sake of its people. No one must be thought to be dominant right after this pandemic because we all know that we have already suffered a lot and what we need to think about is how we can recover from this crisis all together.

i think its about who setting the pace in the economy and who could dominate countries. china could slow down the economic growth of a country if they indeed will set the pace.

its going to be different this time if its the chinese who will go over to the middle east countries to police them and bomb them all.  ;D i doubt they would do that though since the chinese never had a history of doing that. but they will deal to make more money everywhere. silkroad will once again rebuilt.


Title: Re: China will rule world as economy king after crisis end?
Post by: panganib999 on July 23, 2020, 03:01:11 AM
I think it is the most inappropriate time to think of who will become the world's economy king right after this pandemic because what we need to focus now is how this would end and how can we be able to at least make our own country's economy be revive from the couple of months lockdown that brings economic declination to every countries affected by the pandemic.

Although it can be clearly seen that indeed China have fastly recovered from the pandemic despite of the fact that their country is the ground zero of this pandemic. It is really a good thing that China have a very rich economy and resources to quickly respond on the call of pandemic and they make ways to easily control the situation and get their economy stabilize after dealing with the pandemic. Well, let us just see what will happen right after this pandemic. But as of now, it can be claimed that China could possibly surpass US economy after this economy for they are still struggling as of this moment and it will take time for the recovery to occur.