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Title: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 20, 2020, 11:31:41 AM
Sirio Compliance Trust {registration: LEVER IT PANAMÁ S.A.} is a Bitcoin rental company paying a minimum guaranteed 10% monthly interest.

We have been in beta since January 2020 and are now fully operational.

How it works:

We rent your Bitcoins in fixed packages (Choose from: 0.03 BTC, 0.05 BTC, 0.10 BTC, 0.20 BTC, 0.50 BTC, 1 BTC, 3 BTC, 5 BTC and 10 BTC.) with a buy option of 3 times the value of the package.
Sirio pays you interest daily, in Bitcoins, Monday to Friday.
Original Bitcoins rented will be returned at the end of the rental period if Sirio CT didn't exercise the buy option.
Sirio CT may choose to pay you the remaining amount to reach the buy option at any time.

Notes:

- You may have multiple accounts, but only one rental package per account.
- Registration is free.
- You may upgrade your rental package at any time.
- For security purposes Sirio uses cold wallets with manual weekly withdrawals.
- Bitcoins can be added to your balance at any time. There is a flat 0.001 BTC fee per deposit.
- You may withdraw your balance anytime. Withdrawals are executed once per week with a minimum withdrawal 0.01 BTC. There is a 6% withdrawal fee.
- As stated, 10% is the guaranteed monthly interest however this may be higher based on profitability.

Finally, we have a great referral program (https://sirioct.com/docs/plan_en.pdf) allowing the creation of custom webpages for promotion and our own crypto exchange is coming online soon.
Please note that all commissions received counts towards the buy option, except Rank bonuses.

More information and registration available in my signature.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: Vod on May 20, 2020, 11:40:42 AM
Can you sign a message from a wallet holding funds?

I think we all can agree if you have no funds right now, you will not be able to do what you promise, and are more likely to scam. 


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 20, 2020, 11:47:58 AM
I am only promoting Sirio.
I have been in Sirio since the start of the beta, and Sirio have been paying withdrawals every Tuesday since then.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: Vod on May 20, 2020, 12:00:44 PM
I am only promoting Sirio.
I have been in Sirio since the start of the beta, and Sirio have been paying withdrawals every Tuesday since then.

Great!  Post the transaction address.  Then we can see how serious these guys are. 


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 20, 2020, 12:10:22 PM
These are the transactions I received from them. Feel free to have a look.

Code:
a57e08c3aaa3122b57f8a643c7b5f08827d84542630753c800cef0add62027c4
3a82c7754ebd2f66bbb17aef43db8d1b3c71834181ed84a04f69337160a34cee
bc8add2b67844f708799ba8bb04727c454d39b7c7f230ad87e5be2f38dfa0dea
f26c0ce4c55d612c690d971bafa9a9fb1c42259eb6a5b0acc492891a0985ab5e
b3c46911080cd2e74a10e29b019c9bba8ac598007197d619875476732e2ce3ad
b7a5351e92567f7ebac159e8627b4e151250b5b72c83e75ca518275972ccc5f3
6d3156aa0c86cb1ac309dfea3568207cc8797914eee61636bc03133d518a1e54
ac8bda8c38dc64148783f9d16fd7671b3ebb3b385340d00dd6d937ccbc30a57c


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: Vod on May 21, 2020, 01:04:59 AM
These are the transactions I received from them. Feel free to have a look.

Code:
a57e08c3aaa3122b57f8a643c7b5f08827d84542630753c800cef0add62027c4
3a82c7754ebd2f66bbb17aef43db8d1b3c71834181ed84a04f69337160a34cee
bc8add2b67844f708799ba8bb04727c454d39b7c7f230ad87e5be2f38dfa0dea
f26c0ce4c55d612c690d971bafa9a9fb1c42259eb6a5b0acc492891a0985ab5e
b3c46911080cd2e74a10e29b019c9bba8ac598007197d619875476732e2ce3ad
b7a5351e92567f7ebac159e8627b4e151250b5b72c83e75ca518275972ccc5f3
6d3156aa0c86cb1ac309dfea3568207cc8797914eee61636bc03133d518a1e54
ac8bda8c38dc64148783f9d16fd7671b3ebb3b385340d00dd6d937ccbc30a57c

Well, I can see payments going to 1AME8iyzHgs5FPMTWtERh54Ldqy2exMzSy, but they all come from different addresses for different amounts.

Which package did you buy from them?


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 21, 2020, 03:14:24 AM
1AME8iyzHgs5FPMTWtERh54Ldqy2exMzSy is my address, those are the withdrawals I requested so far.
I didn't request withdrawals every week though, but they haven't missed a payment.

I started with the 0.1 BTC package, but now I have more.
You can also use your balance to upgrade the the rental package you have, that way you don't have to withdraw it (withdrawal fees are quite high). That's what I did with most of what I got from interests and referral bonuses.

I have been a GPU miner for a few years, but to be honest I am a bit tired of babysitting rigs all the time, plus GPU mining is not as profitable as it used to be.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: Vod on May 21, 2020, 03:20:28 AM
I started with the 0.1 BTC package, but now I have more.

So you paid them 0.1btc, started making profits, and then you upgraded your package?


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 21, 2020, 03:27:03 AM
I started with the 0.1 BTC package, but now I have more.
So you paid them 0.1btc, started making profits, and then you upgraded your package?
I joined Sirio when it was still on Beta, a friend told me about it. Everything was quite unfinished back then (webpage, documents, etc), but it looked promising.
I rented 0.1 BTC to them, and waited to see how it developed. After seeing their progress for 1 month, I decided to rent more, and with time I also rented the profits I got from interests and commissions.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: Lucius on May 21, 2020, 09:59:05 AM
rikuu, please read rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) before posting, ref/affiliate links are not allowed in post area.



Personally, I would not invest 1 satoshi in something like this, just look at the website, there is no information about who the owners are, where the company is located or any other information that could give the whole thing some legitimacy. A guaranteed monthly interest of 10% per month is just another red flag, all smells on the obvious scam.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: stompix on May 21, 2020, 10:17:55 AM
I am only promoting Sirio.

So, you're promoting a Ponzi scheme (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244884.0)...

I joined Sirio when it was still on Beta, a friend told me about it. Everything was quite unfinished back then (webpage, documents, etc), but it looked promising.

Yeah, and after all that enormous work, now it's a marvelous one page 100 characters piece of crap.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 21, 2020, 11:55:12 AM
rikuu, please read rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) before posting, ref/affiliate links are not allowed in post area.
I was not aware of that rule. Thank you very much for pointing this out.
In order to register in Sirio, you need a Sponsor ID, therefore an affiliate link is required to create an account. Is there any way to promote Sirio with this limitations?

So, you're promoting a Ponzi scheme (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244884.0)...

I have done my own research before renting my Bitcoins to Sirio, and I didn't see any red flags as you are suggesting. That link refers to a user that, as far as I know, has nothing to do with Sirio and tried to promote it. Anyone can promote Sirio.

Personally, I would not invest 1 satoshi in something like this, just look at the website, there is no information about who the owners are, where the company is located or any other information that could give the whole thing some legitimacy. A guaranteed monthly interest of 10% per month is just another red flag, all smells on the obvious scam.
There are videos on their official Facebook page where you can see its CEO, the founders and news about the progress of the company, they are in Spanish though. They have lots of different project going on, and they have improved a lot in the last 6 months.
It is true that the webpage still doesn't contain all the information. Few months ago it was much worse and was on maintenance most of the time, but progress has been made at very good rate since the beginning.

Yeah, and after all that enormous work, now it's a marvelous one page 100 characters piece of crap.
Sirio already has over 4000 users. It is being promoted mainly in Spanish because the founders are Spanish, this is probably why it is not too popular within bitcointalk.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: Lucius on May 21, 2020, 12:54:49 PM
Is there any way to promote Sirio with this limitations?

The legal way to promote a referral/affiliate link is through signature, and you can set that if you go to your profile -> Forum Profile Information.

There are videos on their official Facebook page where you can see its CEO, the founders and news about the progress of the company, they are in Spanish though.

I found their FB page, but the last post is from March 27th, and I don't see any important information that would lead me to believe that this is a legitimate business. As I already mentioned 10% guaranteed monthly interest is unsustainable, it's just a question of when the whole thing will collapse.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 21, 2020, 01:21:49 PM
The legal way to promote a referral/affiliate link is through signature, and you can set that if you go to your profile -> Forum Profile Information.
Thank you. I will look into this.

I found their FB page, but the last post is from March 27th, and I don't see any important information that would lead me to believe that this is a legitimate business. As I already mentioned 10% guaranteed monthly interest is unsustainable, it's just a question of when the whole thing will collapse.

I don't think you are looking at the right FB page. There are quite a few people promoting Sirio, with their own FB pages, telegram groups, etc, because you can only register with a referral link.

They use trading bots among other things to generate revenue, and as far as I know, professional trading firms can generate more than 10%/month with small amounts.

Sirio is similar to Arbistar, and despite all the people that said that Arbistar was a scam when it was publicly released, they have been running for a more than a year now and it is quite obvious that it is not a Scam if you follow its progress and look at all the info available today. Arbistar offers similar profitability as Sirio, and have been expanding their business non stop. Sirio is the same, but they just started, and currently Sirio offers more profitability than Arbistar.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: Vod on May 21, 2020, 07:18:56 PM
rikuu, they have already spent your coin on payment for a user who joined ahead of you.

You have been scammed, and now you have to scam others to get your money back.

I was trying to trip you up, but I think you actually believe you're going to get what you're promised.

Stop trying to scam us.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 21, 2020, 09:11:23 PM
rikuu, they have already spent your coin on payment for a user who joined ahead of you.

You have been scammed, and now you have to scam others to get your money back.

I was trying to trip you up, but I think you actually believe you're going to get what you're promised.

Stop trying to scam us.

I am not trying to convince anyone. Everyone should do their own research. I am just sharing my experience with people that may be interested.

Also, I believe that scam accusations should be backed with more than opinions. I am more than willing to investigate any proofs that are presented here and discuss them along with my finding and experience with Sirio. I already did my own research and I have been following their progress since the beginning, and I am quite happy to share it with others.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: Vod on May 21, 2020, 10:59:41 PM
I am more than willing to investigate any proofs that are presented here and discuss them along with my finding and experience with Sirio.

That doesn't make sense.  You MUST convince people to join or you lose your "investment"   So, like any ponzi promoter, you must lie and throw friends under the bus to make a profit.

Why would you investigate anything?  You have already been scammed. 


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 21, 2020, 11:34:15 PM
I am more than willing to investigate any proofs that are presented here and discuss them along with my finding and experience with Sirio.

That doesn't make sense.  You MUST convince people to join or you lose your "investment"   So, like any ponzi promoter, you must lie and throw friends under the bus to make a profit.

Why would you investigate anything?  You have already been scammed. 
Unfortunately, I have to disagree. As I mentioned earlier, everyone should do their own research. I am not here to convince anyone. I did mine before putting any money in, and I highly encourage everyone to do the same, not only for this opportunity, but with every investment they plan to do.

You are assuming that I think that I have been scammed and, even worse, accusing me of trying to scam others.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: Vod on May 21, 2020, 11:41:08 PM
You are assuming that I think that I have been scammed and, even worse, accusing me of trying to scam others.

I posted you don't believe you have been scammed and you are forced to scam others if you want profit.

I'm now calling you a liar - the only reason you keep posting is to encourage others to look at it.

If you didn't know it was a scam - you do now

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Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 21, 2020, 11:52:16 PM
You are assuming that I think that I have been scammed and, even worse, accusing me of trying to scam others.

I posted you don't believe you have been scammed and you are forced to scam others if you want profit.

I'm now calling you a liar - the only reason you keep posting is to encourage others to look at it.

If you didn't know it was a scam - you do now.  

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You are again assuming things that are not true. The only reason I keep posting is because I am not going to let anyone call me liar and scammer.

You seem to be more time within bitcointalk accusing members than outside doing research to back up your accusations.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: stompix on May 22, 2020, 09:27:56 AM
I don't think you are looking at the right FB page. There are quite a few people promoting Sirio, with their own FB pages, telegram groups, etc, because you can only register with a referral link.

They use trading bots among other things to generate revenue, and as far as I know, professional trading firms can generate more than 10%/month with small amounts.

I took a look at their pages and if you can't see the pattern of bought likes and retweets, then you're either blind or you're actually promoting this scam knowingly.
Go to their FB page and look at the numbers of likes and the persons doing so, those are bought, it smells so much of hitexchanges it's  nauseous.

Second, you have done your research but can you answer these questions?
If they have such a profitable business why do they seek funds, in half a year they could  triple the money on their own without paying others or letting people know about how profitable this is
There is zero, zero, nada, niente,  about their business model, it's a pile of garbage..
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Different cryptocurrency arbitration techniques, cryptocurrency mining, trading with Bitcoin CFDs.
 
I dare you to tell me a way cryptocurrency mining will earn you 10% a month on investment!
If this company was registered 10 years ago, what they have done till now?
Does a legit company have a director that is also assigned in the same positions in 1808 other companies? Or a president present in 5000 others?

Furthermore, since this is not any "Project development" as you don't develop anything,  this belongs in Service Discussions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=85.0), although I'm sure we're going to end with the topic in scam accusation in less than a year.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 22, 2020, 01:45:31 PM
I have been trying to be polite and respectful, but I am getting tired of this.

As I said, EVERYONE SHOULD DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH. Looking at a FB page or browsing the public data of a company is not doing research. They have lots of hours worth of videos where they explain things and share their progress, you didn't seem to have a look at any of them, and if there is something you want to know that hasn't been explained, you email them as I did. That is how you should approach it if you are interested in investing any money into any project (or attack a bitcointalk post).

As I said, I have been following them since the beginning, watched all videos and read all the information they publicly released. You seemed to do a 20 minutes google browsing and came back stating things (without any proofs by the way). Anyway, I will try to address your concerns to the best of my knowledge.

I took a look at their pages and if you can't see the pattern of bought likes and retweets, then you're either blind or you're actually promoting this scam knowingly.
Go to their FB page and look at the numbers of likes and the persons doing so, those are bought, it smells so much of hitexchanges it's  nauseous.

Their FB page has 10-20 likes per post. I don't think they spent any money on that. (Are you sure you are looking at the right FB page? Again, there are tons of people like me promoting Sirio with their own means, none of them are official channels)

Second, you have done your research but can you answer these questions?
If they have such a profitable business why do they seek funds, in half a year they could  triple the money on their own without paying others or letting people know about how profitable this is
There is zero, zero, nada, niente,  about their business model, it's a pile of garbage..

They have lots of plans, and they want funding for them. Again, I encourage you to watch all the media they have to understand their project and roadmap before insulting or saying BS.
They don't want to wait 5 years to get the funds by themselves. I don't see anything wrong with that.

I dare you to tell me a way cryptocurrency mining will earn you 10% a month on investment!

Cryptocurrency mining is a small part of their revenue source. They have a small solar mining operation that has already been paid for. Again, do your research. It is very easy to cherry pick things and attack them with opinions. Good job.

If this company was registered 10 years ago, what they have done till now?
Does a legit company have a director that is also assigned in the same positions in 1808 other companies? Or a president present in 5000 others?

Something else you didn't seem to investigate (that's the only pattern I see here). They explained that, to speed up things, they are using a placeholder company for now. Lots of private investors were interested in Sirio and to start earlier they used an existing company they already had.

I am more than happy to discuss thing further with people genuinely interested in Sirio that did their own research. I already wasted enough time with these people.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: Vod on May 22, 2020, 01:59:54 PM
rikuu, look at my numbers.  I've been here busting ponzis before you knew what crypto or money was.

My experience means I don't need to investigate/research.  It's a clear scam.  You are new and you've learned the hard way.

Don't try and scam from this community - we'll say something.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 22, 2020, 02:03:27 PM
rikuu, look at my numbers.  I've been here busting ponzis before you knew what crypto or money was.
It looks like now you know all about me too.

My experience means I don't need to investigate/research.
I admire your diligence.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: Vod on May 22, 2020, 02:11:33 PM
It looks like now you know all about me too.

I do?  Why does that matter?

If you tell me you are going to jump to the moon, I'm going to say you are crazy before I investigate your background.  



Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 22, 2020, 02:25:33 PM
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Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: Vod on May 22, 2020, 02:27:53 PM
if this firm had been able to make 10% every month over ten years, and was giving it all to investors, guess how much you would have made with each $1,000 contract?

$92,709,069

I would pay you your interest for the first month, then take no more investments.  I don't need you to make money.   What kind of CFO would let a company give away all their profits?

I will sincerely suggest you read this book about financial basics.   It helped me when I was growing up.
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/400398223090837739/

Good luck in the future, but stop promoting this here please.


Title: Re: Sirio CT Bitcoin rental company; 10%/month; 1 year contract
Post by: rikuu on May 22, 2020, 02:31:51 PM
if this firm had been able to make 10% every month over ten years, and was giving it all to investors, guess how much you would have made with each $1,000 contract?

$92,709,069

I would pay you your interest for the first month, then take no more investments.  I don't need you to make money.   What kind of CFO would let a company give away all their profits?

I will sincerely suggest you read this book about financial basics.   It helped me when I was growing up.
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/400398223090837739/

Good luck in the future, but stop promoting this here please.

Who says that they had the means 10 years ago? What is wrong with boosting their plans if they do now?
You are again assuming things and pretending they are written in stone, but I don't blame you. Have you looked at your numbers??

EDIT:
Good lesson! Today I learned how to 1000*1.1^120. I couldn't have done it without you! Someone, fast! please give him a merit point!

You don't seem to have lots of financial experience, despite reading all those books. If you have a strategy that gives you 10%/month, that doesn't mean that you can extrapolate it to infinity. It is not hard to get 10%/month with small amounts.
You can't apply the same business strategy to $1,000 and $10,000,000 as you implied. Your post is completely misleading. Another great contribution to bitcointalk, please keep them coming.

And don't forget to look at your numbers. They are getting bigger and bigger!