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Good afternoon,

I would really appreciate your advice on something as I believe that I was a victim of scam yesterday but I am not 100% sure.

I was told by someone that I know the last month and never met in person about an investment opportunity. Before you tell me that I am an idiot, how I was involved with this person and the reason that I trusted her is another discussion.

The coin is named VOT (Valid Order Chain) and is listed in an exchange that is called www.kolomine.com. I searched online if this exchange is a scam and I could not find any advere media. I then sent my whole bankroll 0.5 BTC and I bought VOT. Invite Code and account authentication were also needed which made the possible scam more real.

However, today I noticed the following, I can not sell the VOT coins that I bought and according to that person the ico needs to be ended in order for me to be able to sell. I could not find any ico details online. The service email has a gmail domain. There are only four wallets available (BTC, ETH, USDT and VOT) but the website operates with 23 coins for trade. When you press buy you go to another page where the following info are available.

VOT ERC20 Token Address:0x3d7afa0322f6dd2e28c16271d74e5aa22f968b48

Total Supply: 100,000,000  VOT

Total subscription: 70,000,000  VOT

Private placement price: 0.046 USDT

Subscription Time: 90 days

The Token Address belongs to VOT but there are no transactions available. The white paper is also available but I was not able to find any of the founders in the Linkedin and their names seem to be ordinary.

I am 99% sure that I was victim of a scam and I just remembered the reason that I stopped dealing with all crypto sh*t 3 years ago.

Please tell me your opinion on this.

Thank you

According to coinmarketcap, VOT (VoteCoin) is a useless coin with a 24 trading volume of less than 100$. Mostly even less than 20-30$.
A google search regarding "Valid Order Chain" does not bring up any cryptocurrency.

And the exchange.. oh well:

It is a scam too.

I am sorry, but you lost your money.




You should stop looking for the "next bitcoin". It won't exist.
All coins claiming that are scam.

If you really want to invests into crypto, choose bitcoin. Anything else will lose you money in the long run.

Thank you for the reply bob123 as I really needed the opinion of a more experienced person than me.

Almost all the tokens backed by ico are shitcoins and scams. We used to see how people lost their money investing in a coin called "promising", but trusting someone that you didn't ever meet with 0.5 btc is the most interesting part of your story. I think you bought the coin because you trust the person who told you about it and not because you beleive in the project itself especially after you found no review about the exchange. I think it's important to mention if the girl belong to scam team or she is a victim like you.
Sorry for your lost mate. You should take more care about who to trust and where to send your money.

No, not the VOT intended by the OP has not been registered at CMC as you mentioned. I think it's tokens that belong to this exchange, seeing them list it on the main bar on the front page. Another irregularity that I found is that, although this exchange has included 22 cryptos, only 4 cryptos can be deposited, including VOT.

There is not even an official website representing ownership of the VOT project.

I wonder what the OP has thought to bring to this exchange which currently has no social media accounts or community groups as an assessment of the credibility of an exchange.

If you have experience scam thing 3 years ago then im pretty sure that you are somewhat familiar on how scams do work on this space specially with shitcoin thing.

Lesson learned?

Don't easily trust up someone who do randomly suggest for you to invest into a particular project just because they do said that its tradable or do have that great feature and potential since they are just trying to hyping it up or you have been approached by the team behind of that coin which made you throw in your 0.5 btc.

Sorry to say but you wont able to get those funds back and better to move on.

I think is easier said this way, he needs to move on and don't fall again for things like this.

Some of us have made some now foolish mistake of investing in ICO. We now understand better not to invest in such levels of start ups because anything can happen and the team decides to go under.

And that reason leads you to fall on the trap. Is this person affiliated with this Valid Order Chain thing?


Account authentication is usual in any exchange.

The moment you searched for some info online about that exchange, you should at least think that they are not trusted and not worth putting a risk. Aside from a few reviews around, they are using the domain GMAIL, a free email domain for an exchange? And ICO is running, and then it was being traded? How with a person with BTC0.5 just easily trusted that kind of exchange?

I hope that will not lead you to think crypto is sh*t. Honestly, people themselves are the reason why they led to this scam thing. Being involved in this crypto stuffs for years, at least you should understand that there's no overnight profit here. You should have used that BTC0.5 wisely and not to rely on other's promise.

What to do now? Rest a bit, bear your losses, move on slowly, or continue talking to your "girl" on what's the best thing to do.

Sucks. I think you got scammed for real. The exchange you used, didn't have any "negative" review, probably because it was created quite recently to scam "targeted" people like you all at once. This "random person" comes and tells you to buy shitcoins from an exchange that no one ever heard of -> Sounds like a classic scam. I wouldn't be surprised to see the exchange disappear and then another one with a different name popup to scam someone else.
You said you couldn't find any reviews about them, but then they say they have "8" years of experience and "tens of millions of users"(and yet no one talk about this exchange on this forum), how come this not feel weird to you? And then they say there were formed on 2013, how did they get 8 years of experience? lol.
The copy pasted most of the explanation. For example https://www.huobi.com/en-us/assetintro/ Same description, same link on interest over there.
And Gmail domain, seriously man?
Dude probably got catfished lmao.

A deep search on the web could have safe you from losing your money or even come to this forum to ask for guide because I can see you are a newbie. That trading site had no social media and could not even afford to have self hosted email but they are using email account. It will expire next year and I think it was setup to scam people that are new and want to invest like you. You can use https://lookup.icann.org/lookup to get detail analysis of the website. Also I will advise you to avoid people that will send you random message especially on telegram to come and invest in a particular token on exchanges that are not listed on CMC. It is mostly going to lead to something like this.

How to find ip address of any exchange and please give us full details that how can we check that when the exchange damain name buy from go Daddy and any other source too???
It's very good source could be to find scam exchange and this will be helpfull to us find out scam project and scam exchange too.

Finding the ip address is simple, but this doesn't help you much.
However, you can simply ping it:

This works in the linux terminal and the windows command line the same way.


For information about the registry of the website, you can use whois:

Linux:

Windows:

Or you can even use a website if you don't want to use the command line at all. For example: https://whois.domaintools.com/ (https://whois.domaintools.com/).

I don't know too much on this point but it's very simple to use and understand hope this will help to all who will be their and Don't know about that information thanks

At first, I was thinking about why it is VOT when the name is Valid Order Chain. Thankfully bob123 already shown what the real coin is. Anyways, thanks for sharing this experience because now, when someone searches for VOT or whoever you will be talking with and entailing the word scam with,, it would be given here and will be sought.

I hope you don't stop dealing with crypto because not everyone will scam you. It's just that you can educate yourself on what you could do to avoid it. Crypto is the future, you know.

Generally if someone is offering you crypto directly even if the ICO hasn't even ended yet chances are you are holding a shitcoin/scamcoin, if there is even an ICO you wouldn't even receive the crypto earlier. Aside from that you even have searched for any background information for the cryptocurrency exchange, I don't even know why you have continued to make that transaction even though you failed to receive any kind of information with that crypto exchange. The good thing here is you did your due diligence on searching everything about this crypto and the crypto exchange but the wrong thing you did is you still continued to go with that deal even if you have seen a lot of red flags as a warning.

A big mistakes always happening on newbies side which is not properly researching on the platform introduced to them and they are always late when they are in trouble that's why next time people should research first since for sure they will find more information posted on internet regarding on the platform or any similar to that.

Hopefully OP learn a lesson from that loss and better move on to the next chapter also stay away on the ICO's

There are more valuable things than investing on ICO's, Learn trading OP since that is more legit than anything offered investment opportunities to you by the people who know you.

He did research on it but the problem here is even if the OP have seen a lot of red flags prior to the deal he still push through with the deal which for me is a bad decision making on his side. He didn't really lack on doing research as proven by how he have found out a lot of things after as proven what he had posted in the OP the problem here is why he had agreed with the transaction. To be honest this mistake is one of those where you will learn the most as anyone who will fall for this even though they have seen a lot of red flags beforehand will really learn from this mistake.

I was happened with many people’s who new in crypto world and still many scammer trying to scam  with new users. I am very sorry for your lost big amount of money. Remember always be careful about any scammers.         

Hey, thank you for your page.
With your help, I saved 500€.

I met a girl in tinder.. a chinese woman (i´m german), she told me she worked for a company in munich and made 30.000€ per month with trading.

and she told me many private things and wanted also meet me, but the whole chat time she tried often to talk about to invest in btc with the app coinomi and then buy VOT at kolomine.com

i searched the internet and found nothing but you website here... many thanks for that.


I mean, i don´t have many money and I never would have spend money on crytpocurrencies, but i was curious if this girl (which talked about dating me) only tried to stay in touch with me because of the investment in VOT or if she lost her money herself.

the reason is she showed me pictures of her wallet and asked me financial things about the german taxes and social security systems and also about economics in germany... and if I told her, that I have no money to invest, she said "thats no problem, I will help you get money for you invest".. that sounds really strange to me..

I mean next week she will go on a date with me.. i´m curious if this is a lie or if she also doesn´t know about the fraud from this website.


EDIT: After an internet search.. i found this site:

https://www.signal-arnaques.com/de/scam/view/224098


the same story.. so .. yes, it´s definitly a fraud / scam

Hey there,

as you can see, I´m a newby in the topic of Bitcoin, but I get the same offer than Ox Kara.
The difference, I didn´t made any exchange and check out before.
But I´m almost in contact with that person and wanted to ask would it be helpful to handover the phonenumber?

Sorry for my bad english.

How is the result?

Hello, I read your post and I am interested in what happened, because I have such a suggestion?

I am sorry, but everything points to scam... but it is not crypto that is faulty... it is your assessment (sorry to be blunt but this is what I think)...
So, you've trusted someone without investigating anything about the project or the exchange (no webpages, social media accounts, etc), someone that you know only online and for a month, you invested your whole balance into one unknown coin on an unknown exchange... you bought just because someone told you to... surprised about this being scam?
This is something that also happens outside crypto, and I bet that it would be a lot harder for you to send USD to a strage website just because a stranger said so

Hi Guys,

I fell into the same trap. A chinese girl matched with me on Tinder, we started talking and she mentioned "Kolomine.com", "VOT". Initially I thought she was just trying to still money from me. I went along through the whole process and saw that I was able to buy VOT. I'm a newbie, I thought the fact that my money appeared in the other end it could be genuine. Then I started educating myself about crypto currency market until I found about ICO Coins and that's a high risk investment, after that I started looking to get more info about VOT, that's when I found this thread.

My mistake was to invest with emotion, I invested in the dream of making money and ignored the red flags along the way.

I lost nearly 2BTC. I learned my lesson the very hard way. Never to thrust strangers, never to invest with emotion and excitement and without knowledge.


Hope my story can save you your money.

all the best.
Marcos




 

waw! i can only say sorry for your lost, as a newbie i can only imagine how you felt finding out that the project you invested on and hoped on is a total scam, am sure now that girl can no longer be reached, it is always good to do research online, ask questions in relevant forums to support your understanding,
there are so many of them out there looking for innocent victims, you should do well to stay away from them, there are lots of helpful topics here in forum to help you understand this space better and how to avoid bad projects and what to look out for.
just keep a positive mind and hopefully you will regain your funds back in some other legit project (i.e if you are still interested to continue on being in crypto).

People wont eventually learn if they wont experience these kind of losses.Im not saying that it would really be necessary but in most cases we do end up on this one initially when people does have
zero knowledge plus having that some sort of greedy nature within us.Newbies will always be the target by those scammers just for them to extract out money from them and since
people do easily react with easy profits or money making opportunities then this is the time on when we are mostly blinded and then realized it soon but its already too late.
We should be careful and be sensible towards our actions and never ever easily be fooled out when strangers do reach out to you randomly offering this and like that
because 99% chance it is just tending to scam you.

A bit of the same story here and I'm only here to make it possible for others to find via Google.
I also met a very pretty Chinese lady on Tinder, who said that she was living in Shenzhen. She soon wanted to continue via Whatsapp and told me that she had several gyms in China and she referred to the website whytewoolf.com. She was divorced and she said that she bought a house with the help of her parents, without whom she couldn't have done that. We chatted almost every day for a bit more than a week. She came across as a very nice lady and she sent quite a lot of photos, a few videos and voice apps. She sounded cute AND was way too pretty for a guy like me ;-)

She mentioned a few times that she had to take a look at her VOT in the evening. I didn't know what that was. And then she said that she was very happy one day, because her VOT rose quite a lot. She had invested for something like 43.000 dollars at 0.3 points and it had now gone up to 3.9. I asked her how long ago she invested into it. And answered that that was a month ago, but she was now going to instruct a class mate of hers on how to register and buy and she'd get back to me. I was intrigued.... I had dollar(or actually euro)-signs in my eyes and felt greed coming over me. She then referred to the kolomine.com website.......
I directly googled on experiences with kolomine and encountered this and a few more websites, indicating that it was a scam!
You had to pay with Ethereum or Bitcoin.

I then pasted a few links with warnings for a scam. It 'shocked' her, she was grateful to me. And I asked her if she was real, or that this was an elaborate way to trick me.
And then her reply got heated "What's wrong with you?Cheat you?What do I get out of it?" "Now I have to tell you, I'm tired of you, and I'm still checking out the gym, and you're calling this a f#cking scamOK, you do your own thing, don't try to ask me for VOT news."
And that was the last I heard of her. I then also used images.google.com and searched one of the first photos she sent me. It found a hit... It was a very nice looking Chinese fitness model, who was on weibu, facebook and instagram. I sent her a message that someone was misusing her photos and videos, but I doubt if she got that message.

The name the scammer used:
Tang Siyao
The phone number she used:
+852 5534 7824
The number still seems to be active (probably chatting up to other "helpless, romantic" men)
Don't fall for it.

With kind regards,
drikj

This is a pure scam and most often, when it is too good to be true, probably it is. This is nothing else but a scam since you have experienced this before, you could have take caution and find out first as you are doing now before any commitment.

they are fraudsters, also beware of pseudo companies that will offer you help, their only goal is to rob you even more or they are the exact same people who offer fraudulent advertising

I hope you can learn about this...
since 2 years ago, many new exchange projects have ended in scams, their goal is only to collect money from the sale of their tokens without wanting to develop their exchange, once again sorry for your loss.

A random girl on Tinder who made a lot of money is contacting strangers to invest in something because....


A shitty token will revolutionize the treatment of mental health illness and not only that, it will make you tons of money. Because....
No info about whois behind it, no company no names yet they claim:

Oh, 30 days old website, of course, another sign of a reputable old company.


If they are so profitable why the hell do they need more money, is it because... ;D
Yeah, another ICO scam stay away from it.

With just common sense then you can definitely say that this is indeed a scam.Who the hell with lots of money in BTC would suggest any investment decisions they would make?

If they do have hints for some price pump and dumps then they wont surely tell a thing to anyone.Dont ever trust up online for those who do suggest something

that it would pump blah blah blah. We've known on how this market becomes shitty when it comes to new projects and so as with new exchange scams on where op is talking all about.

Just looked at the website and white paper. Do not be lied to and don't buy anything. It's just one of those shitty ICOs which will always turn into an exit scam. The want to take your valuable BTC or ETH in exchange for their Valueless ERC20 tokens  that are so easy to create from the Ethereum Network.

Well before investing such larger amount of money, you should have completely analyzed the project through Whitepaper , founder and team member details with their connecting medias. There is increasing number of scam projects, where many are easily falling on their traps.

Before investing analyze the WP, team member details and join there community and watch their activities, if there is anything fishy you can prevent yourself from cheating.

It's good now you have shared the experience with the project name so others can be aware.

Many people lost their hard money with new exchange. I also lost some money with new exchange. But luckily I did not lost big amount. I was lost small amount in fake Bcnex exchange and EOSex exchange. So I would like to warn everyone please do careful and research properly when you are going to deal with new exchange. Because they looks totally real and sometimes in Begining they makes you to withdraw your fund and when you trust on them they seized everything and go away.. I am only trading on binance and poloniex.

Why trade on new exchanges if there are already trusted exchanges to trade. Mostly new exchanges it takes them years before they can attract traders on thier platform.

maybe he got attracted to the offer of new exchange thats why he tried it . i also did the same  . there is something with the new exchange or new websites that makes us tempted to try them but at the same time we feel nervous  .
 maybe because old sites that we already use do already gave what they got and cant give more and we are looking for that missing piece on new sites  .

It is always advisable to use the reputed exchanges or sites which has a good reputation and are also trustworthy. If somebody want to stay away from scam, then they will have to avoid any such new sites which comes up and not sure about it. They may show some lucrative offers but always be cautious rather than regretting later.

So many steps and devices are been crafted by scammers to plague our system. One can not be too careful this days. It's well. Seeing the steps you took in verifying the authenticity, I mean, it's what many user would do but, with the idea of phishing in mind, it's best you stick to what you know or your used to.

I listened this exchange first time, we should deal with good and reputable exchanges. Along with crypto industry is gradually increasing Scammers also using new and new techniques for stoling money of peoples.Take care yourself.

The lesson to be taken from that is never to use a new exchange, it's safer to use an exchange like Binance.
I am also the same as you but I am on a different exchange, I dipped my assets in the Bcnex exchange, and until now I can't withdraw it

It is mandatory for any crypto users to used the renowned and well rated exchange only irrespective if trading fees may be slightly more than as compared to news ones or so. For small benefits people use any such exchange which they may not even heard of and in the end, they lose their money as they get scammed or due to security lapses lose their coins in hacking etc.

There are scenario that the other newbies got interested on new exchanges since there are running trading competitions and bonuses given also sometimes they cannot do anything but to trade on new since there tokens/coins bought from the ICO for listed on shitty exchanges that's why many lose their money for trading at them, that's the reason we should not buy if the dev doesn't have any plan to be listed on big exchange since it's a red flag for us if they only aim exchanges which doesn't have reputation.

It definitely looks like a scam exchange, stay away and stick with well known crypto exchanges only, scammers aren't going to stop, they will keep building scam projects and scam exchanges, once you made deposit on such exchange it's a good bye to your coins, be extremely careful

Scam exchanges are the easiest to avoid, we have many crypto exchanges in this space and you should be very familiar with exchanges name even if you've never trade on them but once you see a fresh exchange that's not been mentioned many times before then you need to be cautious, don't use exchanges that aren't popular or well known, it's as simple as that

Not recognized, stay away from any new exchange that's not well known by traders in crypto space, they can be scam exchanges like this one, once you make deposits you won't be able to withdraw, same goes to any altcoins that listed on such exchanges, there might be some kind of connection between the scam exchange and the scam token too

To me if you can't find any reviews about a particular new exchange it's still a red flag to proceed and deposit on such exchanges, did you come on this forum to find the exchange ANN page? I guessing it's not available either, don't use exchanges that aren't known on here because this is the perfect place to get quick answers

Wont really be a good idea if you do proceed on what you had in mind specially if you do plan to make up deposits.Even though you do hold up some shit coin in your stash
and planning to sell it on an exchange which doesn't have any or single feedback about it which basically means that theres no such user that who do make use of the platform
neither its been known to be a scam exchange already.

Always seek out for reputable and known ones and if you do have some coins then better wait up for other alternatives which are more worth to make
up some deposits and if you don't like to lose money then better be cautious towards on every action you do make.

Even with good feedback or review which I believe some new and old crypto related projects were able to manipulate by paiding some people to make positive feedback or review about their project. With that been said, using of new exchange site are not recommended because they can also shutdown anytime an example chaoex etc.

I think your trust in the person made you fall for this scam. You could have digged deeper and consult others before putting in all your crypto worth into a scam token. While there are many scam projects, we still have a couple of legit crypto projects springing up. One Ned's to carry out due diligence to sift through.

Any project that promises outrageous promise or returns or the next Bitcoin or Ethereum is most likely a scam. The project team must also have verifiable digital footprints and experience/contributions to the blockchain space.

Sorry for your loss anyway, you should bounce back stronger. Don't give up crypto.

I have heard about this VOT coin too. But I did my home work very well. I'm sorry for your lost, you have been scammed and this pains me alot anytime I see this kind of case. 0.5BTC that's a huge amount. I pray God will return your lost. But you ought have made some research on the coin before putting that much it in. I believe that will serves a lesson to us all. There are thousands of tokens out there which are scam. But careful examination of this token, you will know if they are scam or not.

Obviously buying such coin is a complete waste of money, I have came across something similar to this during 2016 when bitcoin began shaking the world, If I can remember clearly the name of the coin was "The Billion Coin" (TBC), the project was over hyped the project team were saying 1 TBC will be worth 10 to 20 in 5yearsor more (if I can remember clearly) , with all the hypes during the early stage when bitcoin started surfacing alot of people fomo'd and bought the sh*tty TBC, thinking it's going to be the next bitcoin, too bad in the later end they started begging people to buy some of their sh*tty bags of tbc :D.

Oh no not again! After backing off from crypto since 3 years ago as a result of falling a scam victim, you came back and in no time boom you fell victim again. Just get it straight that BTC is a King and will always remain a King, pushing yourself into buying any altcoin requires you to carefully engage in serious findings about that altcoin, now come to talk of when some random person introduced you to some shitcoin and boom you fall for it. Cryptospace is very wild, you must imbibe the habit of doing your own serious research and getting fully satisfied with your findings before going ahead to support any start-up.