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Title: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: TheGreatPython on June 29, 2020, 04:47:53 PM
Hello everyone, I just came across a new gambling website which was sent to me via a unknown user on telegram.

Website: https://bitxplay.com/ (PLEASE DO NOT VISIT NOR GIVE ANY OF YOUR DETAILS).

What happened: I was sent a message by an unknown user on telegram that reads "I can make you winner in a gambling house where I work a moderator. If you are interested register and give me your username". "This is an anonymous site and a random player wins, but I work as a moderator and therefore you will win" and "pay me half of your winning money to continue" and I checked their website to find some interesting facts.

Fun facts that made be assured that this is a scam and a well-designed one!

The guy who contacted me actually asked me to pick any username for the game jackpot in the website and he would make that username the winner and after I gave him a random username he actually made that username won and the website is showing last 5 to 10 winners with the winning amount like $1000 to $2500 .. which clearly means the website is broken in that case why would someone share his trick with me for $100 when he can win unlimited times. This actually means the website is just a scam in my opinion and wants me to just deposit so they can scam me on my deposit and THE MINIMUM DEPOSIT IS $100

A few other points -
1- There is no indexing on google and you can basically not find any link on google if you google "https://bitxplay.com/" this tells me that their website is new which is actually fine no harm yet.

2- The website got it's SSL certificate on 28th June which is not even 24 hours yet.

3- I see many of this forum members are playing there. (Must be fake name created by themselves to show activities).

I just want to alter you all for not listening to any stranger on the internet. I am familiar with this basic thump rule. But today I was targeted through my greediness like if I spend $100 I can get $1000 to $2000 which made me to listen to them somehow otherwise I would have blocked them on their first message itself.

NOTE: This is just my own point of views and in no way I want to hurt them if they are by any chance legit, it is always better to be safe than sorry and hence I opened this thread.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: serjent05 on June 29, 2020, 05:36:13 PM
It seems this kind of scam strategy is rampant in telegram.  I also received a pm from an unknown guy with the same modus.  The way they deliver the message is very identical, as moderator, then will give me a jackpot win and we will evenly split the winnings.  Lucky for me I held my morals and told the guy that I don't condone such activity.  He even told me that he will even credit some BTC on my account so that I can roll and he will tweak the result.  Still, I decline that stranger's request. 



Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: 20kevin20 on June 29, 2020, 06:33:47 PM
There have been quite a lot of threads before on Telegram trying to bust similar scams IIRC. Looks like it's a scam that moves from one domain to another so that they don't get caught in the end.

Even if the website was known and you would've accepted his offering, what you'd do is basically you'd commit a crime by scamming a website and pay him up for it too. So if someone finds a legit such offer and really thinks they're going to earn something out of this, let them hit the wall themselves.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: cryptoperkele on June 29, 2020, 09:24:07 PM
I just want to alter you all for not listening to any stranger on the internet. I am familiar with this basic thump rule.

And since this happened on telegram, i would argue that anyone contacting you via pm in telegram and you never chatted before in some main channel is most likely trying to scam you and you can just block and report them at the moment they start their pm.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 29, 2020, 09:38:51 PM
With just some simple logic then we can easily spot out that this is already a scam. Anything offers for low price for getting big bucks in return then thats already a big flag.

When you do mentioned that he do only need $100 deposit for you to get or win constantly in the site then you would surely think of, on why the hell he's been sharing of this
holy grail and make himself gain those amount?

It doesnt need for him to hide even he's the moderator since he can create new account and made up a deposit for himself and abuse if such bug do really exist in the first place.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Rengga Jati on June 29, 2020, 10:55:54 PM
...but I work as a moderator and therefore you will win" and "pay me half of your winning money to continue"[/b]
And I'm sure that he sent the similar email to others and promise that they will win because he is the moderator.
This is exactly a scam and whoever that believes this is really annoying.  ;D

I appreciate your efforts to analyze more about the website and its game so that you are not scammed. And by telling here, we can stop this kind of scam probabilities that may also be received by many more members here.

It is not a kind of new idea of scamming in the gambling world. moreover, nowadays, gambling world is really changing and they are developing very well, moreover during this pandemic using online gambling. of course, many scammers have their latest ideas to scam the victims and play their structured and also interesting ays to scam.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: kawetsriyanto on June 29, 2020, 11:18:54 PM
I just want to alter you all for not listening to any stranger on the internet.
Thanks for alerting us, mate. Indeed, sending tantalizing offers via telegram inbox is a rampant scam that seems to happen every day. That's why I am lazy to read any messages from a stranger on telegram. I ever experienced it, someone sent me a message and offered me Bitcoin as a reward for doing a task. But I just blocked him and deleted the message as I think what he offered was non-sense. Well, I think we must avoid doing something nonsense and even the sender is "unknown" or stranger. It's too risky and possibly scams us.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: GreatArkansas on June 29, 2020, 11:33:00 PM
For sure that gambling website is manipulated by only 1 person, which is the one who contacted you in the telegram.
Hahaha, and their chat area part on the left area, for sure it's fake and random number only. If you try to refresh every time the page and you can see the number of online in the chat is so quick to change. Jeez, totally fake.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: maxreish on June 30, 2020, 12:07:16 AM
Indeed a suspicious one. How many players do they already have? If they just got the SSL certificate this 28th June , they probably gaining some trust to scam other players. Also isn't too much for $100 as minimum deposit? I have visited the gambling site itself,  403 online players in chat. But chat is not moving. Is there a possibility they can manipulate the number of players?
 
 For someone who just give u such unestablished gambling site, it is hard to entrust and take the risks.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: maydna on June 30, 2020, 12:59:29 AM
There will be many more like that, especially in the telegram, which they can hide their identity from people. I have seen many like them, but I don't pay attention and always delete the chat or report it to the telegram support. Telegram is the best place to trick people because the apps allow us to send anything, even we can make bots to invite people to join in our channel.

If someone can make us win games, and we see that really happens, but then he needs us to send some money, then that will be a scam sign for us, and we don't have to do anything. Just forget that, and don't interact with him because no matter what, he will trick us by offering so many big rewards to us. So be careful if you get a suspicious thing from any social media or the internet, it is better to check by searching on other sources.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: harizen on June 30, 2020, 02:44:41 AM

But still, you entertain the chat, right? This to show that even experienced one still taking chances.

Thanks for the heads-up!

As soon as I read the "The minimum amount to deposit is $100" on their FAQ - no way I will use the site even how legit they are. Not that they are a scam but the minimum deposit is too way high. That reason alone will make gamblers not to consider using the site. They are really in a rush to earn more from deposits.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: btc_angela on June 30, 2020, 03:27:08 AM
You should also enclose that website in "[c o d e] [/ c o d e]' so that no one will accidentally click on the link.

And just by looking at it's domain name:

https://whois.domaintools.com/bitxplay.com

Quote
Domain name: bitxplay.com
Registry Domain ID: 2542251484_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com
Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com
Updated Date: 0001-01-01T00:00:00.00Z
Creation Date: 2020-06-28T10:17:19.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2021-06-28T10:17:19.00Z
Registrar: NAMECHEAP INC
Registrar IANA ID: 1068
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107
Reseller: NAMECHEAP INC
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited

Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: WhoisGuard Protected
Registrant Organization: WhoisGuard, Inc.
Registrant Street: P.O. Box 0823-03411
Registrant City: Panama
Registrant State/Province: Panama
Registrant Postal Code:
Registrant Country: PA
Registrant Phone: +507.8365503
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +51.17057182
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:

Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: WhoisGuard Protected
Admin Organization: WhoisGuard, Inc.
Admin Street: P.O. Box 0823-03411
Admin City: Panama
Admin State/Province: Panama
Admin Postal Code:
Admin Country: PA
Admin Phone: +507.8365503
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +51.17057182
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:

Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: WhoisGuard Protected
Tech Organization: WhoisGuard, Inc.
Tech Street: P.O. Box 0823-03411
Tech City: Panama
Tech State/Province: Panama
Tech Postal Code:
Tech Country: PA
Tech Phone: +507.8365503
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +51.17057182
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:

Name Server: rosalie.ns.cloudflare.com
Name Server: will.ns.cloudflare.com
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp

Newly created website, another red flag that this is a scam. There are also a lot of similar stunts being pulled in exchanges, someone will message you in Telegram and telling you to sign up with this "X" platform and you will play a roulette and you are going to win. But before you can withdraw, you have to deposit 0.01 BTC.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: kotajikikox on June 30, 2020, 03:58:33 AM
Thanks for sharing but since this happens in telegram then you can only assume that people here will be more alert.

Thats why never entertain anyone in telegram unless you are expecting something in good faith.
This scammers will never stop as long as there are people that entertaining them.

Use this as charging to experiences mate to not do it again,Blocked the user or report  on the spot.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Bitinity on June 30, 2020, 05:34:10 AM
Thanks for the warning, it is useful for other members here so we can avoid such scam attempts. Without a doubt it is an old scam method. Giving users free money and easy win on the game then ask users to deposit xx amount of money in order to withdraw the winning. Once a user is fooled, the site will run away with the deposited money. Lesson learned, dont trust unknown users on any social media who offers you something that sounds too good to be true.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: shoreno on June 30, 2020, 06:31:33 AM
being message by a random guy to encourage you to try a site that is unfamiliar is already questionable  . i recieve many of those message but i didnt bother to open the links because i know what will be the results are   .

 there are times that some user refer me to a known site with a good offer mostly about affliate but i didnt agree on it either because i think im the one that will loose in the long run   . just try to work with your own if that what makes you comfortable  .


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: swogerino on June 30, 2020, 08:07:56 AM
This reminds me of “the prince of Nigeria scam” which was a big hit in 2002-2007 years and sometimes it even appears now.The modality there was that some parent left him big amount of money but he needed a partner in order to receive the money therefore they asked people of many personal details which were then used to clone or create false credit cards.

Same here only this time the scammer work as an insider at X company where he can manipulate things and make you a winner.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: batang_bitcoin on June 30, 2020, 08:36:49 AM
The website is just made a few days ago so obviously it's just about modifying the results board to make the victim believe that he's actually giving a win. But in reality, once you deposit the asking amount, he will never get back to you.
These scammers are going to different style and up to the point that they will create as if they're legitimate casino just to fool and scam people. Yes, don't listen to anybody especially strangers on telegram.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Lakai01 on June 30, 2020, 09:09:08 AM
First of all, thank you very much for the hint. You might want to consider starting a thread on the Scam Accusations Board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) to get more people's attention on bitxplay. Definitely not everyone here at Bitcointalk is reading threads in the gambling section on a regular basis :)

The scam with DMs in Telegram where links, *.exe files and unbelievably good offers are posted is really taking over. I also get daily inquiries from some users I don't know. I also don't understand why Telegram doesn't take more intensive steps against this or at least offers rudimentary protection mechanisms (like e.g. setting options in the profile who is allowed to write to you directly).


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: plvbob0070 on June 30, 2020, 11:26:23 AM
Scammers really use this kind of trick to lure people to play on their websites. I have seen similar stories and approaches like this here in the forum, so you will already notice if the message is suspicious or not. A moderator himself, asking random people to deposit and play, promising to make them win and then asking half of the jackpot. That's already suspicious. People shouldn't fall for this "easy money" because you will just end up losing everything. It's better to report and ignore random messages from a stranger, especially like what OP received.

Btw, thanks for informing us here since we never know if someone would actually fall for those scammers. There's already a lot of messages like this in Telegram so I just ignore them.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: robelneo on June 30, 2020, 12:01:55 PM
This reminds me of “the prince of Nigeria scam” which was a big hit in 2002-2007 years and sometimes it even appears now.The modality there was that some parent left him big amount of money but he needed a partner in order to receive the money therefore they asked people of many personal details which were then used to clone or create false credit cards.

Same here only this time the scammer work as an insider at X company where he can manipulate things and make you a winner.

Damn you are right not only Price of Nigeria but Ceo of big companies who have no heir to leave his fortune, there are so many of these in those years, and I still received emails like this from time time, this scheme has been exposed on the internet in TV in newspaper and articles, they still want to try their luck.
But this gambling scam attempt still persist they just rest for a while now they are back again, I remember there are so many of this late last year.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Yatsan on June 30, 2020, 12:34:38 PM
This kind of scam is very popular! not only on Gambling website but in trading websites also, I have an experience when they have a promo that when you deposit the x amount and then, you will receive the x amount of welcome reward. Sadly I became victim of this and I hope there's no more people that are going to get scammed by this scheme.

Don't believe on any free money promo that requires you to deposit.  :)


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: peter0425 on June 30, 2020, 01:46:17 PM
100$ is small compared to the expected amount of winning.But the problem is Only greed person will be attracted in this stupid offers.

Random person contacted you in telegram?why not contacted their family member or friends to make the Bet?

That is just a simple question that scammers harder to answer.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Becky666 on June 30, 2020, 02:08:12 PM
Candidly speaking, isn't strange to me because I see them everyday. Those who still pretty fall for these scam aren't experience types, rather newbies. If you work in a gambling site and you ever have the chance to make money, will you ever approach a stranger?. Nobody will do; but to approach their families. In fact, anyone who fell or likely to fall to this scam is a greedy fellow. Those who can control their greedy mind can never fall for this scam.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: imstillthebest on June 30, 2020, 02:13:42 PM
100$ is small compared to the expected amount of winning.But the problem is Only greed person will be attracted in this stupid offers.

Random person contacted you in telegram?why not contacted their family member or friends to make the Bet?

That is just a simple question that scammers harder to answer.
100 usd is already big to me  . good thing that my poorness/cheapness can save me from many scam attempts and infact i never been scammed till now .

 big depo is always equals to bigger rewards but that is usually the tactics of scammers  . they cant earn enough if they will use smaller amounts but actually smaller amounts is more believable and many people will fall for it . they didnt figure that out ? lol .


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: serjent05 on June 30, 2020, 09:23:04 PM
With just some simple logic then we can easily spot out that this is already a scam. Anything offers for low price for getting big bucks in return then thats already a big flag.

When you do mentioned that he do only need $100 deposit for you to get or win constantly in the site then you would surely think of, on why the hell he's been sharing of this
holy grail and make himself gain those amount?

It doesnt need for him to hide even he's the moderator since he can create new account and made up a deposit for himself and abuse if such bug do really exist in the first place.

Aside from it being a scam, assuming that the offer is legit and the event happens that you won the said jackpot price and by some chance, players noticed the abnormal thing about that winnings and file a complaint, it will give us a problem if the complaint is justified and we will be charged as an accomplice to the crime.  Giving in will only lead us to the losing end whether the guy's offer is real or not.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 30, 2020, 11:24:57 PM
With just some simple logic then we can easily spot out that this is already a scam. Anything offers for low price for getting big bucks in return then thats already a big flag.

When you do mentioned that he do only need $100 deposit for you to get or win constantly in the site then you would surely think of, on why the hell he's been sharing of this
holy grail and make himself gain those amount?

It doesnt need for him to hide even he's the moderator since he can create new account and made up a deposit for himself and abuse if such bug do really exist in the first place.

Aside from it being a scam, assuming that the offer is legit and the event happens that you won the said jackpot price and by some chance, players noticed the abnormal thing about that winnings and file a complaint, it will give us a problem if the complaint is justified and we will be charged as an accomplice to the crime.  Giving in will only lead us to the losing end whether the guy's offer is real or not.

It isnt really that much of a bothering thing since these kind of offers doesnt exist in the first place if there are people who do have access on altering sites results.

In case if this one is legit then once you get caught then be sure to face up charges but i would say that its hard to trace out someone specially if we do deal up with things online
how much more if we do deal up with crypto.

In first glance this is clearly just a scam attempt.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Shasha80 on June 30, 2020, 11:39:35 PM
Your story in the opening post is indeed one of the scammers' tricks to make money. And again starting from the telegram, it is indeed
the most important lesson that I can take from your story. Don't respond to messages from strangers on the telegram, because there is
a 99% chance of scammers. And keep in mind that our greed can lead us to become victims of fraud. Always be careful if there are attractive
offers, always use our logic for assessing the offer.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: chaser15 on July 01, 2020, 12:28:46 AM
You should ignore it the moment you received the message. I think OP is expecting too jk.

Please report their Telegram account too. They can come back anytime but at least that account will be tagged as a red flag and be nuked by Telegram.

Even a newbie nowadays won't fall on this trick. But I know there are still a few so let's spread the words about this.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: maydna on July 01, 2020, 02:55:37 AM
100$ is small compared to the expected amount of winning.But the problem is Only greed person will be attracted in this stupid offers.

Random person contacted you in telegram?why not contacted their family member or friends to make the Bet?

That is just a simple question that scammers harder to answer.

$100 is big money for many people, and they will think that it is not worth using it for gambling, even if that person sees the big prizes for the winner. But as you say, that will not be a problem for the greed person because they will try any chance to make money, but unfortunately, that will not happen as they expect. It is better to delete their chat in the telegram or another chat communication if the offers are too good to be true because they will only want your money.

You should ignore it the moment you received the message. I think OP is expecting too jk.

Please report their Telegram account too. They can come back anytime but at least that account will be tagged as a red flag and be nuked by Telegram.

Even a newbie nowadays won't fall on this trick. But I know there are still a few so let's spread the words about this.

I think we can report the telegram account to the telegram's support system, so they can ban that person because they are trying to scam people. If that succeeds, we can report the other people that will try to scam other people or us too, and maybe we can reduce the number of scammers.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Hippocrypto on July 01, 2020, 02:58:32 AM
Your story in the opening post is indeed one of the scammers' tricks to make money. And again starting from the telegram, it is indeed
the most important lesson that I can take from your story. Don't respond to messages from strangers on the telegram, because there is
a 99% chance of scammers. And keep in mind that our greed can lead us to become victims of fraud. Always be careful if there are attractive
offers, always use our logic for assessing the offer.

Telegram messages coming from unknown person can't be trusted, indeed this shouldn't be entertained seriously. I was once a victim of private communication coming from private messages and lost huge amount of money. That's why I learned a lesson, and promised to myself to avoid any messages from stranger.
Gambling is more prone of this strategies, letting people be on their traps through false promises so let's be careful.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Darker45 on July 01, 2020, 04:20:49 AM
If you don't want people to visit the site, don't put the link in the OP. bitxplay.com will do. Curiosity killed the cat! :D

Anyway, thanks for the heads up. However, I am 100% sure that Telegram is flooding with scams in various forms. And the first success of any scam is when their target responds or gives more attention to it than necessary. Even a tiny spark of curiosity on the part of the target is already a success to them.

So, I would always stick to the rule of thumb. Anything which offers money online but solicits a certain amount first is an outright scam. And this kind of scam is not even a well-designed one. This is a kind of scam which only those who are too greedy or too gullible will fall to.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: semobo on July 01, 2020, 04:42:17 AM
This is an old scam method though, we can see lot of similar scam attempts made on scam accusation section and also the same kind if layout used to scam users with random exchange as well like we have to withdraw funds but in our country it is nit possible so I will be sending my funds to you then you take half and pay me the remaining.

Always stay safe from telegram scammers, better uncheck allow receive from everyone on security settings.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: carlisle1 on July 01, 2020, 07:53:44 AM
several time that i have some offers like this but never that i come to entertain,because the more we answers their message is the more they are being aggressive on victimizing people.
And also they know that gamblers are usually greedy,so offers like this will cling to their mind and the attitude will come.
and besides those are not moderator or gambling house instead they are just fake to lure people.
scammers will always there to scam people no matter what they cost.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: 20kevin20 on July 01, 2020, 10:50:01 AM
And also they know that gamblers are usually greedy,so offers like this will cling to their mind and the attitude will come.
and besides those are not moderator or gambling house instead they are just fake to lure people.
scammers will always there to scam people no matter what they cost.
It's honestly kind of a good karma in the end for those falling victims to those scams. They're basically trying to scam the casino and get scammed in return by those telegram users. If one has such a bad greed they end up accepting to steal money from a casino, then I think something must be very wrong and needs to be fixed ASAP.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Reid on July 01, 2020, 12:21:15 PM
So basically, he wants to use others for side income.
Maybe the payment being a moderator is not that much.
This could be prevented if only they paid them well.  ;D

He must be avoiding an IP trace or something near it.
The better option is to use the gamblers themself. That way, the track could not reach him especially if he uses cryptocurrencies as a means of payment to him.

Perhaps you could contact a customer support and tell them what is happening to avoid this from happening again.
If this is an inside job then the owner might not know he is being swindled by his employees.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Sadlife on July 01, 2020, 01:06:41 PM
The message itself makes it shady enough to not follow the link and ignore it.
One of the best and safe way to play and enjoy gambling is to search through in this forum for reputable and popular casino's and sports bookies there are even trustworthy users who listed the most renowned.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: alani123 on July 01, 2020, 11:13:17 PM
OP, I would suggest you break the links in your original posts's body so it wouldn't be clickable. Otherwise it acts as kind of a backlink for the website that's probably a scam which helps the page rank among other search results. Of course the opposite is desired. Mention the name as much as you want but linking to it brings the result upwards with related keywords (for example gambling).

So just simply do not link (in other words, no clickable URL) when you are reporting a scam. The URL as plain text and the name of the website is fine.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Woodie on July 02, 2020, 12:52:54 AM
Didnt have time to look at the website because you have already said its a scam and my rule of thumb when it comes to telegram is >if someone shots you a pm first and you didn't ask them to and there is some sort of favour attached to their message then its all a SCAM ATTEMPT!! Don't bother with such just hit the report and ban Button at the bottom of their name.

Coming to the moderator picking jackpot winners, I thought moderators are not the personnel involved in the back-end of things depending on stepup anyway and besides what's the possibility that those are players are all in it on this grand scam, maybe there is no jackpot involved as well and remember you have to use your money to play to try and win so its your money the scammer wants, not you winning the jackpot!


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Wexnident on July 02, 2020, 02:12:51 AM
You can already identify it just from a few things tbh. 1, it's from telegram, a hellhole filled with scammers. 2, it's a new site, as OP said, and from what I found as well, the site was created on June 28th. Lastly, the mod cheating to make you win? Please. Idk why he would even need strangers for that, just make your family members or friends do it instead, it's a lot easier and safer. Especially the last point, that itself tells you that the one you're talking to is a scammer, or the site they are making you enter is a scam itself. I still don't really believe that others can fall for this, deep scams with a lot off planning involved, maybe, but this? Then you'd either be a complete noob with the internet or you're just plain ol stupid.
Aside from it being a scam, assuming that the offer is legit and the event happens that you won the said jackpot price and by some chance, players noticed the abnormal thing about that winnings and file a complaint, it will give us a problem if the complaint is justified and we will be charged as an accomplice to the crime.  Giving in will only lead us to the losing end whether the guy's offer is real or not.
Well, if what the other party is legit, then if you won, he'd be able to manipulate the records one way or another. I doubt they'd be stupid enough to actually show to the public records of them winning continuously. A balance of win/loss should be maintained with them still profiteering off of it.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: wwzsocki on July 02, 2020, 03:35:37 AM
As many members already mentioned this is a pretty common scam tactic on Telegram lately. I was personally also bothered with these messages, but to be honest, it is pretty obvious that this is a scam and everybody should recognize it after only a few obvious questions.

First of all, why me? If this is such a great deal, why he doesn't do it with family or friends?
He replied that he didn't want his family or friends to know because a few friends are actually working with him (so this is not possible) and he didn't want the family to know what he was doing. A scammer who is afraid of friends and family, but is not afraid to ask strangers online and to provide all details? Pretty dumb explanation, in my opinion, don't you think?

So, I told him: "no problem we can still do this business, despite I don't believe you, but you have to send me the money first (only for the first bet) because I am poor and don't have it right now".
Of course, he denied, so I ask why not? He has nothing to lose, he works there, he will help me to win, he can block me or don't help me to win further if I don't send the money back.
Nothing helped, he still denied, so I told him that now I will contact the casino and tell them about everything. Of course, I haven't because it is an obvious scam attempt and I knew it from the start of this conversation.

As you can see from this example, we have always to be calm and think twice when somebody advertises such an offer or we talk with people on Telegram which are offering insane returns, especially, if from the beginning the scammer tells you that this is not (fully) legal. Remember that in such circumstances the victim even can't report it to Police or somewhere else because from the beginning knew that it's against the law. Of course, you can report everything, but I think they would look at you, not as a victim only an impostor who had just been scammed and do nothing to help.

I got already many offers like this on Telegram and talked with many of these scammers, always after a few questions they finish the conversation and disappear if they only see that there is no chance to scam me. They don't want to lose their precious time. Sorry to say, but they are looking for stupid, young, reach and not experienced people to scam. If they see that you have experience and ask the right questions, they will run away ASAP because there are thousands of other Telegram users to try this scam on them.

Until today even one offer which was advertised to me (like this one) on Telegram wasn't real, don't rush if somebody offers you a lot of money, especially if you have to pay first to get it  ;).

 


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: MCobian on July 02, 2020, 04:58:06 AM
Actually there are many stories about scams, and thank you for giving information about bitxplay. Of all the scams stories,
have in common that scammers direct us to make a deposit or make payments before the promised rewards was given. So
be careful if there are offers like that, sometimes fraudsters are not always unknown people. If about money is sometimes
a scammers it from people we already know. And be careful to use new gambling websites, because there are so many now
gambling websites that scams. Always investigate before using gambling websites, or select popular gambling websites and
old gambling websites if you want to be safe.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: SquallLeonhart on July 02, 2020, 08:55:05 AM
I just learn from your incident that we must need to prepare ourselves just to face anything without losing control on our emotions always. Because we cannot pre-assume what is going to be targeted and how scammers will attempt on us to deceive so that they will start listening to them. Yes, when we are aware of something then we can assume how things will go otherwise, we may go and then will get trapped at the end of the day.

In this particular incident, if the minimum was not $100, then I guess you might have gone to try for it. Because (I am just talking from my point of view), if the minimum was under through out level like one or two dollars, then most people will give it a try on more than 50% of occasions.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Mahanton on July 02, 2020, 10:37:28 PM
I just learn from your incident that we must need to prepare ourselves just to face anything without losing control on our emotions always. Because we cannot pre-assume what is going to be targeted and how scammers will attempt on us to deceive so that they will start listening to them. Yes, when we are aware of something then we can assume how things will go otherwise, we may go and then will get trapped at the end of the day.

In this particular incident, if the minimum was not $100, then I guess you might have gone to try for it. Because (I am just talking from my point of view), if the minimum was under through out level like one or two dollars, then most people will give it a try on more than 50% of occasions.

I do still doubt on this one because no one will throw out even $1-2 if they do know that this is something an obvious scam attempt.It might be a small amount but majority will not really tolerate on feeding up scammers.Who the hell would be the one will give out big win to a player even hes a moderator if he can do it by himself? With some logic and some common sense you can spot it directly that someone is just
trying to deceive you so that you would make a $100 deposit. Instead of trying to milk out the house, then you would be the one who would really be milked out.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Kelvinid on July 02, 2020, 10:51:34 PM
Hello everyone, I just came across a new gambling website which was sent to me via a unknown user on telegram.

Website: https://bitxplay.com/ (PLEASE DO NOT VISIT NOR GIVE ANY OF YOUR DETAILS).

What happened: I was sent a message by an unknown user on telegram that reads "I can make you winner in a gambling house where I work a moderator. If you are interested register and give me your username". "This is an anonymous site and a random player wins, but I work as a moderator and therefore you will win" and "pay me half of your winning money to continue" and I checked their website to find some interesting facts.

Fun facts that made be assured that this is a scam and a well-designed one!

That is why I'd never entertained new messages which I'd never expect have something to receive especially when it is coming from an unknown person and offers such a scamming trick, I'd rather have to block it ASAP.

BTW, thanks for this warning.
Yeah, it looks tempting and attractive offer but that is out from reality. Scammers are getting smart by now, they always find a way just to pursue their obvious scamming trick but they are hopeless to see that they can't hide their intention anymore since most of us are aware of this.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Saint-loup on July 03, 2020, 05:58:07 AM
You should also enclose that website in "[c o d e] [/ c o d e]' so that no one will accidentally click on the link.

And just by looking at it's domain name:

https://whois.domaintools.com/bitxplay.com
I agree with you, and [nobbc][/nobbc] tag is even more convenient to use for that.
But more importantly, OP should post some screenshots of the website to allow people to see how it looks like, because these kind of scams regularly change their domain names AFAIK.  :-\


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Bezobraznike on July 05, 2020, 05:43:24 AM
You should also enclose that website in "[c o d e] [/ c o d e]' so that no one will accidentally click on the link.

And just by looking at it's domain name:

https://whois.domaintools.com/bitxplay.com
I agree with you, and [nobbc][/nobbc] tag is even more convenient to use for that.
But more importantly, OP should post some screenshots of the website to allow people to see how it looks like, because these kind of scams regularly change their domain names AFAIK.  :-\

   They change the name, but the scam stays the same. I agree with you on that Saint-loup, and OP should add that tag you
suggested, for more visibility.
   I regularly receive scam PM's on Telegram and on Twitter. All kind of propositions, and all of them ask for some starting
investment and promise big returns. I don't know do they attract anyone with this kind of scams?


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Debonaire217 on July 05, 2020, 05:55:16 AM
In order to verify the gambling site, there's no moderator that will PM you of anything about the site. Moderators are used to help gamblers whenever they face a problem such as in depositing, withdrawing and issues concerning their game. But with the action made by the "moderator" of that gambling site, you can already assure that the reputation of the site isn't good.

Plus, anything concerned about depositing funds in order to withdraw an amount of winning which look like easy money should already be considered as a scam precaution for us not to engage further.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: LogitechMouse on July 05, 2020, 07:17:51 AM
Hello everyone, I just came across a new gambling website which was sent to me via a unknown user on telegram.
The word here is "TELEGRAM".
I'm enough of the nonsense of telegram already. Scammers are everywhere there and you don't know which can be trusted there or not. I'm not even opening my telegram app already because of the scammers there. Just the word alone makes me go away.

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I also have received some random messages coming from random strangers and I don't have the time to entertain them or even read their post. As I open their message, I immediately block the user if I don't know them. Entertaining them will lead to nothing.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Oilacris on July 05, 2020, 08:03:55 AM
You should also enclose that website in "[c o d e] [/ c o d e]' so that no one will accidentally click on the link.

And just by looking at it's domain name:

https://whois.domaintools.com/bitxplay.com
I agree with you, and [nobbc][/nobbc] tag is even more convenient to use for that.
But more importantly, OP should post some screenshots of the website to allow people to see how it looks like, because these kind of scams regularly change their domain names AFAIK.  :-\

   They change the name, but the scam stays the same. I agree with you on that Saint-loup, and OP should add that tag you
suggested, for more visibility.
   I regularly receive scam PM's on Telegram and on Twitter. All kind of propositions, and all of them ask for some starting
investment and promise big returns. I don't know do they attract anyone with this kind of scams?

For most people these kind of scamming attempts are obvious which is automatically ignored but the question about on why there are still people who got fooled?

Its simple! When greed do comes in then people do make dumb decisions no matter how obvious it is they would just ignore and proceed.

When in talks on making easy money then its part of human nature to be greedy,some can control but there are some who cant.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Shimmiry on July 05, 2020, 08:26:48 AM
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I think you should rather post or move this on scam accusation than here in gambling. Though it is indeed related to gambling, there is a specific board for scam even if it was just a fail attempt.

I really aren't that active in telegram and I know what channel and whom to trust only. If that occurred to your account, there is a huge chance that your phone number was leaked hence the sender had a way to contact you. Such activities are too good to be true, hence blocking and reporting the user would be a huge help to the telegram and its community (especially gambling community). Though it was new, it is too suspicious that they made a contact via telegram and not here in the forum..


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Genemind on July 05, 2020, 09:06:48 AM
Never trust random messages in telegram, and it seems that scammers are getting more and more creative nowadays. Stick to the rule of thumb that if it is too good to be true, never trust it.

A few months back, I also received almost the same message but this time they used a trading platform. The scenarios are the IP where the scammer is currently blocked in the platform since he said he is on a business trip and would gladly share half of what is on his account on the platform. So, he asked me to create an account and made a fake transfer of 25 ETH, so I ride along and checked the hash and the address if a real deposit was made, and found zero balance. The platform required me to deposit a minimum of 100$ to unfreeze the account which is a red flag.

Never ever trust unsolicited e-mails and messages.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: btc78 on July 05, 2020, 09:26:09 AM
Hello everyone, I just came across a new gambling website which was sent to me via a unknown user on telegram.

Website: https://bitxplay.com/ (PLEASE DO NOT VISIT NOR GIVE ANY OF YOUR DETAILS).


I have the same experience ween ago from this Guy in telegram but upon reading His message i automatically realized that this is another scam and nothing to give anything reliable but shit.

I have reported from the telegram and Blocked it right away without sending even a single word because some of my friends was one a victim of fake messaging in telegram.

You should also enclose that website in "[c o d e] [/ c o d e]' so that no one will accidentally click on the link.

And just by looking at it's domain name:

https://whois.domaintools.com/bitxplay.com
I agree with you, and [nobbc][/nobbc] tag is even more convenient to use for that.
But more importantly, OP should post some screenshots of the website to allow people to see how it looks like, because these kind of scams regularly change their domain names AFAIK.  :-\
Thats what i am looking also those screen shot because i'm sure He had caption before the scammers deleted the conversation because he knows that it is a sign of scam.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Lakai01 on July 05, 2020, 09:28:16 AM
Never trust random messages in telegram, and it seems that scammers are getting more and more creative nowadays.
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Never ever trust unsolicited e-mails and messages.

The problem is very simple: these attacks still work, a large number of people still fall for them. You can see this quite clearly in the various Twitter "swaps" where you are supposed to get back ten times the amount you transferred yourself. The addresses posted there show a lot of transactions of unsuspecting users who fell for the attack.
The attacks are also relatively simple. You only need to write to a correspondingly large number of users, even if only 0.1% of the users write back and make a deposit, it is always worth it.

Coinbase has written a very good article on Medium last year, where the different scam attacks are listed and also possibilities are shown how to protect yourself against them. Here would be the article if anyone is interested: Anatomy of a Telegram Scam (https://blog.coinbase.com/anatomy-of-a-telegram-scam-9fd3dfb8c310)


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: nakamura12 on July 05, 2020, 09:41:40 AM
I just want to alter you all for not listening to any stranger on the internet. I am familiar with this basic thump rule.

And since this happened on telegram, i would argue that anyone contacting you via pm in telegram and you never chatted before in some main channel is most likely trying to scam you and you can just block and report them at the moment they start their pm.
That is exactly correct. Many scammers use telegram to find a victim to scam his/her money. There are several telegram users who contacted me but I never follow their chat but instead I only replied once and never replied again. You could also block the sender which will help you stay away from that scammer.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Renampun on July 05, 2020, 07:31:04 PM
It seems like it's not just me who is the victim of a fraud attempt by a fake gambling site moderator...
In telegrams, there are many fraudsters like this who offer services to make rich quick, not only claiming to be from a gambling site but also claiming to be admin of an exchange, mining and another. we must be careful because con artists like them try to seduce us with the promise of a big fortune, don't be greedy people.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: Danslip on July 05, 2020, 10:53:17 PM
The rebranded casino came back with the same games and the same social engineering methods. It is sad to see some people still fall to this trap and there is another way to prevent the scammers except sharing the knowledge and education. The greed can cost more than the target balance the victim aims for...


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: carlfebz2 on July 05, 2020, 10:59:04 PM
Never trust random messages in telegram, and it seems that scammers are getting more and more creative nowadays. Stick to the rule of thumb that if it is too good to be true, never trust it.

A few months back, I also received almost the same message but this time they used a trading platform. The scenarios are the IP where the scammer is currently blocked in the platform since he said he is on a business trip and would gladly share half of what is on his account on the platform. So, he asked me to create an account and made a fake transfer of 25 ETH, so I ride along and checked the hash and the address if a real deposit was made, and found zero balance. The platform required me to deposit a minimum of 100$ to unfreeze the account which is a red flag.

Never ever trust unsolicited e-mails and messages.

No matter how many times we do said such advice but there are really people who do neglect of those kind of basic stuff or rules when it comes to possible scam scenarios.

None of this world would really offer out big returns or money with just giving out some few dollars and if you are that a sensible and even just talking with common sense

then you can eventually spot out that somethings fishy is happening.When it comes to telegram and any messaging platforms, if someone message me randomly about offers
or other stuff then thats already put up in ignore.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: TimeTeller on July 05, 2020, 11:09:00 PM
Never trust random messages in telegram, and it seems that scammers are getting more and more creative nowadays. Stick to the rule of thumb that if it is too good to be true, never trust it.

A few months back, I also received almost the same message but this time they used a trading platform. The scenarios are the IP where the scammer is currently blocked in the platform since he said he is on a business trip and would gladly share half of what is on his account on the platform. So, he asked me to create an account and made a fake transfer of 25 ETH, so I ride along and checked the hash and the address if a real deposit was made, and found zero balance. The platform required me to deposit a minimum of 100$ to unfreeze the account which is a red flag.

Never ever trust unsolicited e-mails and messages.

No matter how many times we do said such advice but there are really people who do neglect of those kind of basic stuff or rules when it comes to possible scam scenarios.

None of this world would really offer out big returns or money with just giving out some few dollars and if you are that a sensible and even just talking with common sense

then you can eventually spot out that somethings fishy is happening.When it comes to telegram and any messaging platforms, if someone message me randomly about offers
or other stuff then thats already put up in ignore.

They can always find gullible users by sending those attractive offers and rewards.
Some will try for themselves for the hope that they will get good returns.
But unfortunately, it is a trap and they will get nothing in return.
Unsolicited emails and messages should automatically be put into trash.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: adamistraybar on July 05, 2020, 11:31:07 PM
number 1 rule everyone should follow why would anyone do this and is there anything in this world legit were you can 26x your money minutes

if its too good to be true it always is


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: angrybirdy on July 06, 2020, 01:00:19 AM
They can always find gullible users by sending those attractive offers and rewards.
Some will try for themselves for the hope that they will get good returns.
But unfortunately, it is a trap and they will get nothing in return.
Unsolicited emails and messages should automatically be put into trash.
The reason is because day by day users who are being desperate of getting instant money is increasing. They can be an easy target for scammers because scammers know that they are after an easy money. They just have to create a new way of attractive strategy then they can have now new victims. Even those who are being warned with this kind of scam can easily become a victim if they will be blinded by an easy money trick.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: michellee on July 06, 2020, 03:06:29 AM
They can always find gullible users by sending those attractive offers and rewards.
Some will try for themselves for the hope that they will get good returns.
But unfortunately, it is a trap and they will get nothing in return.
Unsolicited emails and messages should automatically be put into trash.
The reason is because day by day users who are being desperate of getting instant money is increasing. They can be an easy target for scammers because scammers know that they are after an easy money. They just have to create a new way of attractive strategy then they can have now new victims. Even those who are being warned with this kind of scam can easily become a victim if they will be blinded by an easy money trick.
So that can help the scammers to find the next target who will give them the easy money. With some modification of the old way, they can attract desperate people to provide an offer to them, and they will make sure that the target will follow what they say. But if we can protect ourselves by searching for other information, we will not get in their trap, but we can avoid them to trick us.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: batang_bitcoin on July 06, 2020, 03:15:25 AM
number 1 rule everyone should follow why would anyone do this and is there anything in this world legit were you can 26x your money minutes

if its too good to be true it always is
The same rule as to how to avoid the Ponzi schemes and other scams. Don't be greedy because it will lead you to being scammed. Just go with the reputable casinos that won't cheat on you and avoid the unknown casinos giving such offers.
Modification of the winners and showing the data on the leaderboards are very easy to them because they are the operator of those tables. Don't get caught by any of them in different social media channels or messaging apps.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: yazher on July 06, 2020, 02:43:43 PM
They planned it all to execute their scam as soon as you take their bait. Thanks for sharing it here for the others to be aware with this. that cloning of the username of the members here might attract some newbies to follow those steps which will eventually lead them to disaster. there are lots of these offers on telegram which is now the center of the social media of most of the crypto gamblers and investors that's why they are using it now as they used on the emails.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: AmoreJaz on July 06, 2020, 10:18:51 PM
number 1 rule everyone should follow why would anyone do this and is there anything in this world legit were you can 26x your money minutes

if its too good to be true it always is
The same rule as to how to avoid the Ponzi schemes and other scams. Don't be greedy because it will lead you to being scammed. Just go with the reputable casinos that won't cheat on you and avoid the unknown casinos giving such offers.
Modification of the winners and showing the data on the leaderboards are very easy to them because they are the operator of those tables. Don't get caught by any of them in different social media channels or messaging apps.

offers that are too-good-to-be-true fall mostly in scam category. dont even bother trying sending money to these scammers. but if you do want to try and check for yourself, you can send a small amount of money and see whats gonna happen. we have had enough of these tactics, and it only resulted to one endpoint, you will lose your money!


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: barbara44 on July 07, 2020, 05:11:14 PM
I really appreciate all the efforts you put and created the thread but the problem is that the website is now not accessible, at least on my side (it works then stops and then again works like that). they will create a new domain and transfer the script there to continue their scam business smoothly and there is no way you can track all the domains they use and they are doing it so smartly that it is hard a new gambler to identify their scam.

I think the biggest problem is that people need to be educated about the possible cyber scams and offers that are too good to be true are nothing but scam attempts and they need to have the courage to tell themselves that while getting $1000 seems so good, loosing the $100 for that is even worst.


Title: Re: [Alert] Scam attempt in the name of gambling house and moderator
Post by: coinfinger on July 07, 2020, 05:32:27 PM
They can always find gullible users by sending those attractive offers and rewards.
Some will try for themselves for the hope that they will get good returns.
But unfortunately, it is a trap and they will get nothing in return.
Unsolicited emails and messages should automatically be put into trash.
The reason is because day by day users who are being desperate of getting instant money is increasing. They can be an easy target for scammers because scammers know that they are after an easy money. They just have to create a new way of attractive strategy then they can have now new victims. Even those who are being warned with this kind of scam can easily become a victim if they will be blinded by an easy money trick.
You are right and in fact when I visited the website I was wondering if they are really scam and thankfully OP mentioned about the minimum $100 deposit which made me feel strong that they are scam. They are even generating new deposit addresses and everything so it is really cool trick they are implementing to manipulate users but where they missed the track was sending such messages on telegram is too obvious that they are scammers.

I wonder since they have a working website why they don't normally run their casino and profit in the long run that too honestly and if they lack bankroll they could have contacted investors and I am sure anyone would have invested in a working casino that just lacks bankroll.