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Title: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Abiky on July 04, 2020, 01:36:38 AM
There have been talks by the TRON community about the next iteration of the "infamous" smart contract platform (TRON version 4.0). They plan to launch the next version of TRON by July 7th, 2020. Apparently, the TRON blockchain will have quicker block times and greater privacy features. The team claims that the project will become the "first" smart contract platform to use ZK-SNARKS for on-chain transactions. There isn't much info about the upgrade, other than what has been said previously. If TRON 4.0 successfully launches, it could become another "blow" to the Ethereum blockchain. Or is it?

Do you think that the newly-anticipated release of the TRON blockchain is full of hype? If not, why? Knowing how many "Ethereum Killers" have emerged over time without any success so far, I think that TRON will just be another "nail in the coffin".

What are your thoughts ???


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: TravelMug on July 04, 2020, 02:30:06 AM
I don't think it will challenge Ethereum 2.0. It already establishment itself, although it has been delayed many times already, still investors and miners are looking forward to it because of staking and other upgrades. With that said, 2.0 for me will be a big boost for Ethereum and making a strong point as the second top crypto leaving all competitions behind.

As far as TRON though, hmm, very controversial specially in the last couple of months and I think the community is divided as to who are they're going to support. So I don't see it getting even close to Ethereum, to be honest.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on July 04, 2020, 04:06:49 AM
It's still part of their strategy. Tron's developer and its owner know how to market their product with the use of hype. After all of those marketing that they have done before, they know the taste of the people. And with something like this, there is a probability that it will click to the investors but no need to go in-depth of what it's really implementing or upgrading. It's been a long time since I've parted ways with my tron holdings and that's during the partnership days which busted my money and I think this will do the same to others.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: cabron on July 04, 2020, 04:42:17 AM


Justin is trying hard to hype this tron4, it must be bust. Everything he touches turns bad that even his own frown at him. It's full of negativity and there is just no protection to investors with TRON. He invited known people in the event, you can see it on his tweets that he does every minute of the day.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: btc_angela on July 04, 2020, 05:04:45 AM
Justin is trying hard to hype this tron4, it must be bust. Everything he touches turns bad that even his own frown at him. It's full of negativity and there is just no protection to investors with TRON. He invited known people in the event, you can see it on his tweets that he does every minute of the day.

Yes, like this one,

https://i.imgur.com/h6Cyymk.png

https://twitter.com/justinsuntron/status/1278981227735707648

He is indeed trying to hype, even paying Twitter tons of money to have their own logo publish on that platform. So how can you trust the project, when people behind are obviously very greedy like Justin, specially with the drama and the hostile take-over?


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Kotone on July 04, 2020, 05:24:57 AM
Probably a bust. They are just creating random hypes and ltos of event in relation to this 4.0 of tron that says can rival eth 2.0 but truth to be told they can still keep it up on eth achievement. They are fast releasing a new progress, supposedly it has been so fast but the question lies is thr upgrade that a lot? Or maybe it onlya minor development and decided to have a 4.0 right away to boost their project.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Bttzed03 on July 04, 2020, 05:49:15 AM
~ If TRON 4.0 successfully launches, it could become another "blow" to the Ethereum blockchain. Or is it?

Do you think that the newly-anticipated release of the TRON blockchain is full of hype? If not, why? Knowing how many "Ethereum Killers" have emerged over time without any success so far, I think that TRON will just be another "nail in the coffin".

What are your thoughts ???
Tron has always been about hype. Remember that time when they first released their plagiarized whitepaper? It's amazing how some people still patronized that project and I can think of great marketing as the only reason.

Despite the faster block time, cheaper fees, or more private transactions, I still don't think they can overtake Ethereum. They can have all advance features but all the anomalies surrounding Justin pushes people away. What happened to Steem and how he blocked the hardfork with his buddy CZ will never be forgotten imo.

Maybe they will continue to dominate the gambling dapps with thos new upgrade but eth will remain the king of dapps.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Baofeng on July 04, 2020, 11:38:01 PM
Lol, Justin Sun will not be known as 'Shill God' for nothing, he really knows how to play around and create hype around his projects, but behind you know that Tron has nothing to offer besides the usual money making scheme of his and his cohorts. And this will be a an ongoing battle on Twitter,

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Like, from any serious point of view, any flaw that ETH has from the perspective of BTC community values, Tron has 10x more. And yet, ETH is often a mortal enemy, and yet Tron, at least psychologically, is viewed as a distant crazy uncle it's cool to be kinda friends with.

https://twitter.com/VitalikButerin/status/1279058642684325890

I'm sorry but I will side with Vitalik here, So I will say that Tron 4.0 will enjoy some crazy pump when released but it won't be sustainable in the long run.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: thanhloancvn on July 05, 2020, 01:35:09 AM
This is just an update and improvement for itself better. And can it surpass ETH? I think not possible in this time and near future. So TRON 4.0 will be better than the present one


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: IamAltcoinfan on July 05, 2020, 05:08:22 AM
Justin sun is the best marketing person in crypto space he create all the hype in past also we seen he introduced all the possible things for marketing for each eventf even for the baidu cloud platform use he created huge hype , Now another hype tron from beginning hype coin with the greatest marketing team lead by greatest marketing person in crypto space.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: alicea on July 05, 2020, 05:20:21 AM
If it had been any other project then we would be witnessing a huge price surge on the project but sadly it's TRON. Even a big event like this is not able to price above 200 lol. I like TRON is an OK project but I don't like Sun.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: tsaroz on July 05, 2020, 05:47:20 AM
If it had been any other project then we would be witnessing a huge price surge on the project but sadly it's TRON. Even a big event like this is not able to price above 200 lol. I like TRON is an OK project but I don't like Sun.

Yes, TRON would have been better without Justin Sun. I'd call Tron famous rather than infamous. It's the hot thing in dapps and smart contract platform. It's use is overtaking EOS and may challange the volume of Ethereum soon. Fast transaction and zeroish fees makes it a better utility token. There are many gaming dapps that are taking advantage of Tron blockchain and are a hit. I believe the next update would bring more interest on Tron.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Review Master on July 05, 2020, 06:18:51 AM
It's just another marketing strategy from Justin sun to make hype about Tron because more and more new users are appearing in the markets which is already happened previously. Lol, it's a funny and 100% true that Justin sun is the best marketer to make hype for any projects which are in Tron Blockchain. Except newbies, others might know about this, IMO.  ;) ;D

Note: I also use Tron Dapp but not much happy with that because EOS/Wax Dapp are better than Tron


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: basicnecromancycr on July 05, 2020, 06:34:18 AM
Tron has always been a boom regularly followed by a greater bust. I know it like this and I accept it like this. Thanks to Justin, of course!


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: shinratensei_ on July 05, 2020, 06:37:03 AM
This is just an update and improvement for itself better. And can it surpass ETH? I think not possible in this time and near future. So TRON 4.0 will be better than the present one
It can't and it will never happen. In fact, that justin was manipulating the result of voting between ethereum 2.0 vs tron 4.0
With the old result of voting and it has been showing tron will become another bust and it will never boom. I guess people should aware if this guy is a clone who is always shilling anything for his own benefit.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: taynguyen_cry on July 05, 2020, 07:17:39 AM
The official launch of TRON 4.0 signifies the stunning transformation of TRON from being a blockchain-centered project to an industry trendsetter. It illustrates the evolution of TRON, from achieving smaller victories, to being a sector leader and innovator. The launch of TRON 4.0 foretells the future goals of TRON public chains by being both individual and business friendly.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: LogitechMouse on July 05, 2020, 07:42:10 AM
Since Justin Sun said this in one video, I totally not interested in touching this coin again

https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1226739014910255104/pu/img/VMJJQv-0ZCSokK8b.jpg

This is probably another hype coming from him again. His shitcoin is not coming close to ETH anymore. Tron is a shitcoin and it already came from the founder himself so BUY HIS SHITCOIN and you will become one of his shits :D.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Skinny48 on July 05, 2020, 08:24:46 AM
I don't want to know what Tron 4.0 have in store it can't challenge Ethereum 2.0 and moreover do you think Justin is as smart as vitalik? Tron CEO is automatically turning Tron Blockchain into centralized blockchain, the guy behavior is way off and all projects he hyped aren't doing so well


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: mt55 on July 06, 2020, 08:07:33 AM
Every update has been a step to improve the whole TRON ecosystem, Bittorrent and its sub-dapps, and the regular use with games, DEX or other DApps.

Now TRON 4.0 brings important improvements necessary to offer privacy or cross chain communication, among other features.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Bezobraznike on July 06, 2020, 01:41:59 PM
I don't want to know what Tron 4.0 have in store it can't challenge Ethereum 2.0 and moreover do you think Justin is as smart as vitalik? Tron CEO is automatically turning Tron Blockchain into centralized blockchain, the guy behavior is way off and all projects he hyped aren't doing so well

    Skinny48 I can agree, Justin doesn't seem so smart as Vitalik, but we can say that Justin have a better marketing approach than
Ethereum. And it's not about us only, I think majority buy that marketing.
    Is it hype or not time will tell. With Tron and Justin we can't be sure, he is known as a guy who make announcements that he will
make an announcement. What ever he is up to we will have to wait and see it.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 06, 2020, 03:03:02 PM
We will see it later. But I don't think that Tron can beat ethereum in the first altcoin position because it is hard to do that, especially we know that ethereum has big support from traders or investors. It could happen if Tron 4.0 can give another benefit than what it claims, so people will see what the real benefit of Tron 4.0 is. Besides that, ethereum is already has a big name in the cryptocurrency, and many people believe that ethereum prices will increase in the next bull run.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: masterrex on July 06, 2020, 04:04:36 PM
Well, I'm not betting on any negativity thats why I will not choose any of the two choices wethers its "Boom or Bust", But honestly speaking because of recent problems on Ethereum Network like surging gas fees to slow transaction, etc. I might choose Tron as a possible contender for the tag as Ethereum killer although that it's not possible at this time since Ethereum 2.0 is not yet completed so let's wait and see if Tron 4.0 is successful or not only time can tell. 


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Dollar_Hunter on July 06, 2020, 04:30:00 PM
The Tron 4.0 hype has finished, prices have also returned to normal, there is no Fomo anymore,
because tomorrow is the day Tron 4.0 was launched


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: pilosopotasyo on July 06, 2020, 05:33:25 PM
Every update has been a step to improve the whole TRON ecosystem, Bittorrent and its sub-dapps, and the regular use with games, DEX or other DApps.

Now TRON 4.0 brings important improvements necessary to offer privacy or cross chain communication, among other features.
That's true let us see first what they are going to offer to the community we have a developer and CEO who is very excited to produce something on his project to the point that he is doing a lot of stuff, not other developers and CEO are doing we'll see the results after a month or two but for me it has a good potential.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Abiky on July 08, 2020, 02:17:41 AM
Tron has always been about hype. Remember that time when they first released their plagiarized whitepaper? It's amazing how some people still patronized that project and I can think of great marketing as the only reason.

Despite the faster block time, cheaper fees, or more private transactions, I still don't think they can overtake Ethereum. They can have all advance features but all the anomalies surrounding Justin pushes people away. What happened to Steem and how he blocked the hardfork with his buddy CZ will never be forgotten imo.

Maybe they will continue to dominate the gambling dapps with thos new upgrade but eth will remain the king of dapps.

That's certainly true, mate. TRON is more about hype, than anything else. It may be faster and cheaper to use than Ethereum, but it's less decentralized. People prefer decentralization on top of scalability for a good reason. I think that the intention of the TRON Foundation with version 4.0, is to "pump the price" of TRX on the market. After all, ETH is getting close to becoming a full-fledged PoS cryptocurrency (ETH 2.0). The TRON project wants to be in the lead of the smart contract space, by adopting the latest features before ETH does. But what matters here is mainstream adoption (usability) than anything else. And so far, Ethereum has the biggest ecosystem of dApps, and tokens on its blockchain network.

With what happened with TRON's dilemma on the Steemit acquisition, has a lot to say about Justin Sun himself. It seems to me that he supports centralization more than anything else. TRON should not bear the name of "Decentralize the Web" since it's utterly centralized. One thing to keep in mind is that Binance has large dominance over the TRON blockchain. We've seen how CZ supported the controversial STEEM hardfork which meant to "steal" some funds from users on the STEEM blockchain. It shows us that CZ and Justin Sun have business interests within them. I'd stay away with anything related to Justin Sun (TRON and STEEM) as decentralization is not taken into consideration.

Today is the day TRON 4.0 launches, but I think that ETH will continue to "reign supreme" for a very long time. People will choose between TRX or ETH for interacting with decentralized applications. TRON will always be inferior to Ethereum as it lacks decentralization. But it could prove to become an attractive platform for businesses and companies alike. Time will tell us if TRON will be able to last a lifetime or not. Just my thoughts ;D


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Valak on July 08, 2020, 04:08:29 AM
There have been talks by the TRON community about the next iteration of the "infamous" smart contract platform (TRON version 4.0). They plan to launch the next version of TRON by July 7th, 2020. Apparently, the TRON blockchain will have quicker block times and greater privacy features. The team claims that the project will become the "first" smart contract platform to use ZK-SNARKS for on-chain transactions. There isn't much info about the upgrade, other than what has been said previously. If TRON 4.0 successfully launches, it could become another "blow" to the Ethereum blockchain. Or is it?

Do you think that the newly-anticipated release of the TRON blockchain is full of hype? If not, why? Knowing how many "Ethereum Killers" have emerged over time without any success so far, I think that TRON will just be another "nail in the coffin".

What are your thoughts ???

I think Tron is the best choice for the future. But I am not sure that Tron is able to defeat Ethereum. Because the Ethereum Blockchain system has been adopted by various large companies in the world.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: robelneo on July 08, 2020, 05:22:36 AM


Do you think that the newly-anticipated release of the TRON blockchain is full of hype? If not, why? Knowing how many "Ethereum Killers" have emerged over time without any success so far, I think that TRON will just be another "nail in the coffin".

What are your thoughts ???

Every new platform launching is posed to become an Ethereum killer and Tronis no exception but its way to early to tell if it really is, but Tron is a good project to invest just like EOS they have a lot of DAPPS, I just don't like the CEO's attitude he acts like a spoiled brat and oppressive to other projects just like his team did to OIKOS.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Tipstar on July 08, 2020, 05:40:05 AM


Do you think that the newly-anticipated release of the TRON blockchain is full of hype? If not, why? Knowing how many "Ethereum Killers" have emerged over time without any success so far, I think that TRON will just be another "nail in the coffin".

What are your thoughts ???

Every new platform launching is posed to become an Ethereum killer and Tronis no exception but its way to early to tell if it really is, but Tron is a good project to invest just like EOS they have a lot of DAPPS, I just don't like the CEO's attitude he acts like a spoiled brat and oppressive to other projects just like his team did to OIKOS.

Tron have the largest number of new dapps everyday. More and more tron are being locked on dapp but most of them are from ponzi schemes that are going to bust one day or later. It was same with ethereum but the plus point of tron is the transaction are cheap and fast. And with Tron 4, things would get even faster making the way for tron to rise higher. I know Sun is a sign of stupidity but Tron seems to check the good boxes.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Novatech8 on July 08, 2020, 07:38:04 AM
I sold the rest of my Tron bags after I've seen different ways that Justin is handling his project, it's no more decentralized to me anymore, Tron blockchain is now a Centralized project and I don't like centralized projects, I don't care about Tron 4.0, now I'm waiting for Ethereum 2.0


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Abiky on July 11, 2020, 01:13:18 AM
Tron have the largest number of new dapps everyday. More and more tron are being locked on dapp but most of them are from ponzi schemes that are going to bust one day or later. It was same with ethereum but the plus point of tron is the transaction are cheap and fast. And with Tron 4, things would get even faster making the way for tron to rise higher. I know Sun is a sign of stupidity but Tron seems to check the good boxes.

TRON usage may be growing, but Ethereum is still the "King of Smart Contracts". No other competitor matches Ethereum in terms of decentralization and security. The mere fact that Justin Sun has a great influence over the project, has a lot to say about TRON's level of decentralization in the crypto/Blockchain space. TRON is able to maintain unmatched speeds and dirt cheap fees because it's centralized. A new version will do nothing if there's lack of decentralization in the project. I think this is all about hype than anything else.

It's been 3 days since "TRON 4.0" apparently launched, yet I haven't witnessed any improvements on the core Blockchain whatsoever. Everything is just the same as it was before the announcement. So much for an overhyped cryptocurrency with no concrete results. Luckily, I hold a very small amount of TRX while most of my investment is on both BTC and ETH. Considering what happened between Justin Sun and the Steem community, I would think twice before putting all my hard-earned money into TRX. The fact that Steem witnesses have stolen funds from other people on the Blockchain after TRON's acquisition of Steemit, greatly defeats the purpose of the Blockchain. It's just "Banking, reimagined". I wouldn't be surprised if TRX fades into oblivion sometime in the future. Just my opinion :)


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: smyslov on July 11, 2020, 02:56:02 AM
The Tron 4.0 hype has finished, prices have also returned to normal, there is no Fomo anymore,
because tomorrow is the day Tron 4.0 was launched

You don't expect it to just pump just because it is released, we have to see first how it can benefit the community, but this new version is something that will help their cause and maybe this is the platform that will land them in the top 10 we never know, I'm still bullish that it will reach the $1 level.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Itsmylife on July 11, 2020, 03:28:53 AM
The Tron 4.0 hype has finished, prices have also returned to normal, there is no Fomo anymore,
because tomorrow is the day Tron 4.0 was launched

You don't expect it to just pump just because it is released, we have to see first how it can benefit the community, but this new version is something that will help their cause and maybe this is the platform that will land them in the top 10 we never know, I'm still bullish that it will reach the $1 level.
Looks like you have the same thought as me. I strongly believe that TRX will increase 4 to 12 times the current price. Tron's ecosystem is very diverse, will make the most of the TRX features, which will help the value of TRX increase well.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: michellee on July 11, 2020, 04:01:40 AM
The Tron 4.0 hype has finished, prices have also returned to normal, there is no Fomo anymore,
because tomorrow is the day Tron 4.0 was launched

You don't expect it to just pump just because it is released, we have to see first how it can benefit the community, but this new version is something that will help their cause and maybe this is the platform that will land them in the top 10 we never know, I'm still bullish that it will reach the $1 level.
Looks like you have the same thought as me. I strongly believe that TRX will increase 4 to 12 times the current price. Tron's ecosystem is very diverse, will make the most of the TRX features, which will help the value of TRX increase well.
I will be glad if that is happening quickly because I still have some amount of TRX. Hopefully, with a new update, tron will have the opportunity to get a better price soon, and I think many people are now waiting for that moment. But the price is not going to increase fast because until now, tron seems to need more time to grow. But if bitcoin price does not increase, maybe tron will not rise higher because tron will be behind bitcoin moves.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Dhoe on July 11, 2020, 04:14:53 AM

Looks like you have the same thought as me. I strongly believe that TRX will increase 4 to 12 times the current price. Tron's ecosystem is very diverse, will make the most of the TRX features, which will help the value of TRX increase well.
I'm not sure the TRON price can reach $1, because I see their ATH only at $ 0.3 since January 2018. So to reach ATH I think it is very difficult especially to reach $1. Although they have released TRON 4.0, but I see no change in TRX price. Yes, everything can happen in the Crypto world, so wait and see.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: irixo10 on July 11, 2020, 08:50:15 AM
Hype has always been a thing of Tron CEO and we all knows that hype don't get a platform or blockchain anywhere, also we have seen how he hypes different platforms and yet they are no where to be found today. In my own opinion, Tron 4.0 will cause a bust because many have seen the true nature of Justin which is all about hype although some people will still go ahead but a majority are now wiser. Secondly, Tron don't have what it takes to challenge Ethereum blockchain, many have tried and yet didn't succeed so I think it's better for Tron and their team to focus on how to make their blockchain better than seeking to challenge Ethereum.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Febo on July 11, 2020, 12:47:21 PM
TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?

Tron 4.0 will be both boom and bust. First will be pump and then will be dump. But, few months latter there will be Tron 5.0. Sp more hopium.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: kentrolla on July 11, 2020, 01:02:39 PM
I am overwhelmed by Justin sun's incredible marketing techniques, but I am sure it will not compete with ETH 2.0. I personally think it will not hit in the market like TRON did, but some interesting stuffs are going around crypto market as Justin sun has tweeted as bull is all set to appear. However let's wait for few more days I believe TRON could be a game changer in future for sure.

 


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: andra73 on July 11, 2020, 01:10:04 PM
Tron 4.0 will be both boom and bust. First will be pump and then will be dump. But, few months latter there will be Tron 5.0. Sp more hopium.

is it always like that? like events that just happened to Dogecoin. will everything be the same?


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: chichidori on July 11, 2020, 01:17:44 PM
Now that Justin Sun holds a key position on Steemit marketing is just an easy task for them but with all those allegations lurking around his name, TRON 4.0 has just made a small impact on its price its a bust in my opinion.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Bananington on July 11, 2020, 01:28:48 PM
The Tron 4.0 hype has finished, prices have also returned to normal, there is no Fomo anymore,
because tomorrow is the day Tron 4.0 was launched

Truth is, many TRON believers lost confidence in Justin Sun over time. Too much hype, less recent development caused it and also the steem saga between Sun and steemit delegates diminished his reputation to an extent. However, TRX is still one of my long term bags because developments in the past have been very cool.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Febo on July 12, 2020, 11:35:54 AM
Tron 4.0 will be both boom and bust. First will be pump and then will be dump. But, few months latter there will be Tron 5.0. Sp more hopium.

is it always like that? like events that just happened to Dogecoin. will everything be the same?

It is not the same with coins that have use case. For those coins demand drives price up. For coins that exist simply for fun or to make propel rich there is no other way. Dooge will pump in future again. It will go over 100 satoshi and it will for sure not stay there but go back to 20 sat again. 


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: voteformeg on July 12, 2020, 11:46:56 AM
i did not hear before about Tron version 4.0 but i play some games on trx and i must say that it is fine working with it , not sure if it would be better then it already is (for me ) .
but with justin i aspect it to be more shouting then deliver so , let's see


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Jating on July 12, 2020, 12:51:51 PM
i did not hear before about Tron version 4.0 but i play some games on trx and i must say that it is fine working with it , not sure if it would be better then it already is (for me ) .
but with justin i aspect it to be more shouting then deliver so , let's see

Of course, it is Justin playing with us again with his Tron version 4.0 but we all know that this is just a hype project. And it was supposed to be scheduled to be released last July 7.

But there are no significant movement, although the price resistance of $0.017 has been overcome but just barely as the price currently is $0.018, so it's almost no movement at all.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: inoes on July 12, 2020, 02:10:47 PM
Good, Tron will be more sophisticated. with the Smart Contract Privacy Protocol (SCPP) it uses zk-SNARKS technology, so that it can facilitate transactions that are able to disguise the transaction information of its users on the basis of privacy requirements. This is beneficial for investors to be able to choose based on various market needs.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Dollar_Hunter on July 12, 2020, 09:28:29 PM
after the TRON 4.0 was launched, I have an important lesson, that buy Rumors sell the news is right, but for the long term it looks like TRX is very promising, i myself dont worry about future Tron


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: bearexin on July 12, 2020, 09:50:58 PM
Do you think that the newly-anticipated release of the TRON blockchain is full of hype? If not, why? Knowing how many "Ethereum Killers" have emerged over time without any success so far, I think that TRON will just be another "nail in the coffin".

It seems a boom as per in recent times, we are seeing Tron value keeps increasing when I checked last, it is trading around 200 or 198 satoshi in bittrex markets whereas it was struggling around 164 satoshi some two months back. I mean compared to recent past, Tron is doing good right now which could be an enough reason to conclude like its new version is a boom.

I remember by 2019 January times, Tron was trading at its all time high prices which was around 800 saotshi. So, if the new version and its hype could launch tron into new ATH then we can confirm that new version has started convincing its new set of investors; but for that we might need to wait a little bit as it may take more time to perform like that by considering how widely Tron do fluctuates nowadays.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 12, 2020, 10:00:01 PM
after the TRON 4.0 was launched, I have an important lesson, that buy Rumors sell the news is right, but for the long term it looks like TRX is very promising, i myself dont worry about future Tron
That's how it works, and that is Justin Sun is really good at, "buy the rumor sell the news". Short term, it could boom, but in long term, it can go to the moon.  :). We will have to wait, we can't really say for now that this is a bust, to early to judge what TRON 4.0 can offer and what it can bring to the table. It could be a threat to ETH, but I don't know if can overtake it, ETH is still the king. And we might as well this put a spin, Vitalik vs Justin.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Abiky on July 15, 2020, 09:19:12 PM
Now that Justin Sun holds a key position on Steemit marketing is just an easy task for them but with all those allegations lurking around his name, TRON 4.0 has just made a small impact on its price its a bust in my opinion.

Completely agree with you, mate. TRON 4.0 is a bust as it's all about hype. We all know how Justin Sun does marketing for TRON in order to pump its price on the market. It seems that his tactics are not working out, since the price is still the same. With what happened between Justin Sun and the Steem community, I'd stay away from TRON. There's a high risk of getting your funds lost due to the extreme centralization on both STEEM and TRON blockchains thanks to Justin Sun. If you take a closer look at the TRON blockchain's stats, you'll notice that Binance has the most dominance on the network. It shows us that CZ has business interests with Justin Sun. Even CZ agreed to hard fork to the "corrupt" version of STEEM which aims to "steal" user's funds. This means that Justin Sun has a large influence over Binance, and it's own blockchain network's future direction.

TRON should not bear the name of "Decentralize the Web". It's just a scheme to fool people who're new in the crypto/Blockchain space. With huge centralization of TRON's SRs (Super Representatives), the network can be manipulated to big player's interests instead of focusing on everyday people. I wouldn't be surprised if TRON dies in the long run, while ETH and EOS remain on the scene for many generations. TRON will just become another "nail in the coffin" as people realize that it's too centralized greatly defeating the purpose of Blockchain technology. Just my thoughts ;D


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: minatour on July 24, 2020, 05:04:55 PM
Tron 4.0 don't have anything to do with Ethereum, Tron aren't going anywhere closer to $5 per token in the next 2years so I don't believe Tron will ever boom against ethereum. Tron 4.0 to me is nothing but just ordinary hype, it won't change anything as far as Tron development is currently concerned.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Abiky on July 25, 2020, 12:44:26 AM
Tron 4.0 don't have anything to do with Ethereum, Tron aren't going anywhere closer to $5 per token in the next 2years so I don't believe Tron will ever boom against ethereum. Tron 4.0 to me is nothing but just ordinary hype, it won't change anything as far as Tron development is currently concerned.

Some say that TRON "plagarized" the ETH whitepaper. For a Chinese project that's based on pure hype, I wouldn't be surprised. The newest iteration of TRON is nothing more than a scheme to keep investors pumping the price of TRX on the market. I doubt that TRX will be able to reach $5 per coin in the future, because of its lack of real use cases in the mainstream world. It will only be worth cents (in USD) for a very long time. Despite claims of being "decentralized", the TRON blockchain itself is heavily centralized as it's controlled by Binance. You can see how Binance has a large number of votes on the network. Besides that, the project has a very close relationship with Justin Sun where his actions greatly influence the Blockchain's future direction.

I wouldn't touch anything related to Justin Sun after what happened with the STEEM takeover. There are far better options out there that are much more decentralized and capable than TRON itself. Even EOS and Tezos are much more decentralized than TRON. They have the same consensus algorithm as TRON (DPoS), giving them the same scalability advantages as their competitor but with a focus on decentralization. Luckily, the TRON project is open source so anyone can build a truly decentralized version of Justin's Blockchain network in the future. The new version of TRON 4.0 has already launched, but no difference in network performance or price per coin was witnessed. It's all been a failed attempt by Justin Sun trying to pump his centralized coin with nothing more than pure hype. Just my opinion :)


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: studio1one on July 25, 2020, 01:32:55 PM
Justin Sun looks more like a hype man for the TRON project then the founder of the project,to be honest. If we look price-wise then I think TRON 4.0 was a bust because I was hoping it will go much higher because of the 4.0 news.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: distr@yopmail.com on July 25, 2020, 01:38:49 PM
Justin Sun looks more like a hype man for the TRON project then the founder of the project,to be honest. If we look price-wise then I think TRON 4.0 was a bust because I was hoping it will go much higher because of the 4.0 news.
it may only be an increase in a short time. after that, we will see a correction and the price will return. You are right, TRON does not have a good enough development in the future.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Benefactor on July 26, 2020, 02:34:28 PM
I also think they know very well how to make the hype and make it bust in near future. if it's going really well in near future that will be great. They have a good marketing strategy as we seen all previously and hope that will continue in future as well. Hope Justin make it happen like the Vitality makes their coin live till now. He already started some approaches. If it`s works tron will get a good bust!


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: iTradeChips on July 26, 2020, 03:44:46 PM
I am feeling so much hate from the haters. Anyway, my two cents worth. Justin only shows that he has plans for TRON and he is not expecting it to be the best coin overnight. He did say "buy his shitcoin", but he is still far from abandoning the cryptocurrency. If you are not experiencing anything negative with your TRON experience then that proves that he is not really scamming people and those who don't trust the coin better do other things than shaming the guy and his coin. He doesn't care about the haters opinions anyway.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: coin-investor on July 26, 2020, 04:10:31 PM
I think it is still too early for TRON to overcome ETH right now even if the overhype TRON 4.0 somehow success. Look at how ETH pulls the ETH 2.0 and a massive price rally compares to pitiful TRON.

I support Tron but I never support it if it's going to try to bust because it's not going to happen the current price difference is a big proof Eth is still the next best coin after Bitcoin and Tron can just try to climb and try to hurdle the obstacles it's having a hard time to move in a good position.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: monineklutak on July 26, 2020, 05:40:24 PM
it looks like the price of Tron is indeed Bullish, even though it was corrected when Tron 4.0 was finished,
Tron was able to recover quickly, I appreciate it, congratulations to holders


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: wealthcircle on July 26, 2020, 05:48:46 PM
The price of Tron is indeed Bullish


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on July 26, 2020, 05:54:13 PM
Ethereum is not getting carried by the DeFi hype, just like in the past it got carried by the ICO hype. TRON and other self-proclaimed Ethereum killers have never managed to have their own ecosystem that could rival Ethereum's one. So, all these new features that they offer are irrelevant right now. Whether it's just network effect or Ethereum is fundamentally superior, smart contract programmers will keep choosing Ethereum over its competitors. This is why TRON has been stuck with the same price ever since 2018.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Tomohisa on July 26, 2020, 06:16:30 PM
Busted, look at how ETH doing with marketing and development on ETH 2.0 and compare to TRON. For now, every "Ethereum Killers" need to pull out their textbook and note down everything ETH did with its plan for ETH 2.0. Copy it and they would be fine.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: disconnectme on July 26, 2020, 07:16:02 PM
I still find it funny that people are still taking Tron serious, the way the development is going is very disturbing, if they can not come up with novel ideas but to just copy what other people are doing is not good for the platform.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: iTradeChips on July 27, 2020, 07:23:32 AM
I think it is still too early for TRON to overcome ETH right now even if the overhype TRON 4.0 somehow success. Look at how ETH pulls the ETH 2.0 and a massive price rally compares to pitiful TRON.

I support Tron but I never support it if it's going to try to bust because it's not going to happen the current price difference is a big proof Eth is still the next best coin after Bitcoin and Tron can just try to climb and try to hurdle the obstacles it's having a hard time to move in a good position.

For me it doesn't matter if Tron won't get to the top as many die hard supporters tried dreaming TRON would achieve. All I want is for my investment to be grow and get more out of it. There are no indicators that this coin is having a big problem so there is really nothing for us to be concerned about. If the coin will get more projects and more investments then that is good we would be all participating and help both the coin and ourselves in the process. We all wish for TRON more productive years ahead.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Thomas-s on July 27, 2020, 07:36:05 AM
I still find it funny that people are still taking Tron serious, the way the development is going is very disturbing, if they can not come up with novel ideas but to just copy what other people are doing is not good for the platform.
I do not see this as a problem. if they can do better and do more advertising around their product then that will be very good. TRX investors have always earned very good money on the rise in the price of this coin.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Abiky on July 29, 2020, 02:16:10 AM
it may only be an increase in a short time. after that, we will see a correction and the price will return. You are right, TRON does not have a good enough development in the future.

In my opinion, TRON will end up being another nail in the coffin. There are far better options to choose from which focus on decentralization than anything else. It's always important to balance between scalability and decentralization, in order to fulfill Blockchain tech's initial promise. Competing chains like EOS, ADA, and ETH have been following Blockchain tech's footsteps by focusing on decentralization whenever possible. While they're not perfect, they're certainly much better than the utterly centralized distributed ledger known as TRON. The latest version of the infamous smart contract platform, will have a positive impact on the price of TRX within the short term. After that, everything will be the same as it was before the announcement of TRON 4.0.

Ultimately, what matters is decentralization and usability. If TRON is able to meet with these requirements, it'll be able to last a lifetime. But we all know, that's not the case today. Which leads me to believe that TRON will not last for long. Just my thoughts ;D


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: shoreno on July 29, 2020, 02:32:54 AM
I still find it funny that people are still taking Tron serious, the way the development is going is very disturbing, if they can not come up with novel ideas but to just copy what other people are doing is not good for the platform.
I do not see this as a problem. if they can do better and do more advertising around their product then that will be very good. TRX investors have always earned very good money on the rise in the price of this coin.

how do you know that they earn ? are you one of it . i dont know if thats true that tron is a bad project and its only a copy paste . well if its true then people wont find the coin less interesting and if they are lucky they will only get a small number of investors . the coin wont rise that way but the coin did rise before for you to say that people already earn good money from them  .  i dont find tron bad but i just find it as an average coin , i already used it before but not long enough


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: andycarrol on July 29, 2020, 03:01:17 AM
I still find it funny that people are still taking Tron serious, the way the development is going is very disturbing, if they can not come up with novel ideas but to just copy what other people are doing is not good for the platform.
I do not see this as a problem. if they can do better and do more advertising around their product then that will be very good. TRX investors have always earned very good money on the rise in the price of this coin.
indeed many investors and traders who get a lot of results from using tron, but the real problem is the effect of the total supply of tron, when you have that much supply and has a lot of development then the price will still be very difficult to be expensive, at least there must be a reduction in supply from tron so that when there is an update on the development of the tron can trigger an increase in the price of the tron because it will be increasingly difficult to get tron.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: cabron on July 29, 2020, 03:11:06 AM
Ethereum is not getting carried by the DeFi hype, just like in the past it got carried by the ICO hype. TRON and other self-proclaimed Ethereum killers have never managed to have their own ecosystem that could rival Ethereum's one. So, all these new features that they offer are irrelevant right now. Whether it's just network effect or Ethereum is fundamentally superior, smart contract programmers will keep choosing Ethereum over its competitors. This is why TRON has been stuck with the same price ever since 2018.

TRON also has this Defi hype but its just not used by investors and blame it to Justin for being BS. He still can hype just as how he does as alway. No need for Defi to hype TRON, Justin can ask to dine again with someone maybe Trump?

But look TRX seem to be rising. At least when BTC goes up, TX will be dragged up there. But still its a BUST!


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: lobo13hf on July 29, 2020, 07:09:01 AM
Busted, look at how ETH doing with marketing and development on ETH 2.0 and compare to TRON. For now, every "Ethereum Killers" need to pull out their textbook and note down everything ETH did with its plan for ETH 2.0. Copy it and they would be fine.
TRON doesn't get a lot of attention on this bullish trend. It doesn't even move from its position while another coins (included the competitors) have been getting a huge increase. it looks like tron 4.0 was nothing compared with eth 2.0


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Abiky on July 31, 2020, 06:32:35 PM
TRON doesn't get a lot of attention on this bullish trend. It doesn't even move from its position while another coins (included the competitors) have been getting a huge increase. it looks like tron 4.0 was nothing compared with eth 2.0

ETH 2.0 will become the real deal. TRON, on the other hand, will not gain the attention of everyday people because of its inherent centralized model. It becomes no different than regular banking, in my own opinion. With Binance taking huge dominance of the TRON blockchain, it should raise some concerns for anyone considering to put all their life savings into TRX. At any moment, Binance can disrupt the Blockchain to its heart's content. That's not possible with Ethereum, due to its decentralized nature. While the new PoS version of Ethereum will make the Blockchain a little less decentralized, it beats TRON by a long shot. The TRON project is just full of hype and speculation, than anything else. Justin Sun will continue to give propaganda to his little coin (TRX) in order to pump its price on the market. But it seems that people in crypto land are smart enough to not fall in his schemes.

With what happened with the STEEM blockchain lately, I'd stay away with anything related to Justin Sun. There are far better options out there on the market (besides Ethereum). Coins like EOS, ADA, and XTZ are much better than TRON because they're decentralized with a proven track record of development and innovation. The aforementioned coins put in practice what they promise, instead of delivering hype to people in the mainstream world. No one will take TRX seriously, unless the project starts focusing on decentralization and delivering real use cases to the world. All of this makes me wonder what's next for TRON 5.0? ;D


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Toxic_1988 on July 31, 2020, 06:55:10 PM
Busted, look at how ETH doing with marketing and development on ETH 2.0 and compare to TRON. For now, every "Ethereum Killers" need to pull out their textbook and note down everything ETH did with its plan for ETH 2.0. Copy it and they would be fine.
TRON doesn't get a lot of attention on this bullish trend. It doesn't even move from its position while another coins (included the competitors) have been getting a huge increase. it looks like tron 4.0 was nothing compared with eth 2.0
Exactly. ETH 2.0 boom really make me reconsider my TRON bag after the TRON 4.0 try to mimic ETH with its 2.0 but fell short with nothing interesting. Didn't catch public attention or improve the situation of TRON at all. Seeing ETH 2.0 put a lot more desire for TRON.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Shadowkipper on July 31, 2020, 08:16:56 PM
TRON doesn't get a lot of attention on this bullish trend. It doesn't even move from its position while another coins (included the competitors) have been getting a huge increase. it looks like tron 4.0 was nothing compared with eth 2.0

ETH 2.0 will become the real deal. TRON, on the other hand, will not gain the attention of everyday people because of its inherent centralized model. It becomes no different than regular banking, in my own opinion. With Binance taking huge dominance of the TRON blockchain, it should raise some concerns for anyone considering to put all their life savings into TRX. At any moment, Binance can disrupt the Blockchain to its heart's content. That's not possible with Ethereum, due to its decentralized nature. While the new PoS version of Ethereum will make the Blockchain a little less decentralized, it beats TRON by a long shot. The TRON project is just full of hype and speculation, than anything else. Justin Sun will continue to give propaganda to his little coin (TRX) in order to pump its price on the market. But it seems that people in crypto land are smart enough to not fall in his schemes.

With what happened with the STEEM blockchain lately, I'd stay away with anything related to Justin Sun. There are far better options out there on the market (besides Ethereum). Coins like EOS, ADA, and XTZ are much better than TRON because they're decentralized with a proven track record of development and innovation. The aforementioned coins put in practice what they promise, instead of delivering hype to people in the mainstream world. No one will take TRX seriously, unless the project starts focusing on decentralization and delivering real use cases to the world. All of this makes me wonder what's next for TRON 5.0? ;D
But now the throne has a low price and it is constructive in the market in relation to other assets. I buy Tron and believe in its price growth.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: holly.ball8 on July 31, 2020, 08:51:00 PM
Bust for me. Of course, the new TRON 4.0 is just full of artificial hype and the result reflects how it truly is. The 'ethereum killers' is just a same marking ploy like many cryptos out there with 'bitcoin killer' stuff. TRON won't dead tho, just not coming close to ethereum like many ethereum similar cryptos.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on July 31, 2020, 11:42:33 PM
Busted, look at how ETH doing with marketing and development on ETH 2.0 and compare to TRON. For now, every "Ethereum Killers" need to pull out their textbook and note down everything ETH did with its plan for ETH 2.0. Copy it and they would be fine.
Even if you copy everything, it will be hard to defeat the classic in terms of name valuation and the easiness in which developers can work with it and come up with a good solution without much work and that said ETH has its flaws and we are seeing it in the gas price as the transaction charges keeps on increasing and the ETH 2.0 roll out is delayed, with these situation i do not see these competitors going bust.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: makishart on August 01, 2020, 04:34:14 AM
Busted, look at how ETH doing with marketing and development on ETH 2.0 and compare to TRON. For now, every "Ethereum Killers" need to pull out their textbook and note down everything ETH did with its plan for ETH 2.0. Copy it and they would be fine.
TRON doesn't get a lot of attention on this bullish trend. It doesn't even move from its position while another coins (included the competitors) have been getting a huge increase. it looks like tron 4.0 was nothing compared with eth 2.0
Exactly. ETH 2.0 boom really make me reconsider my TRON bag after the TRON 4.0 try to mimic ETH with its 2.0 but fell short with nothing interesting. Didn't catch public attention or improve the situation of TRON at all. Seeing ETH 2.0 put a lot more desire for TRON.
You guys know how much you get from bought ethereum when this thread has already published by the creator.

Tron is not a big deal as when the CEO of tron was manipulating the result voting and so many people have been loosing their interest to consider this as a game changer.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: assa1979 on August 01, 2020, 04:52:54 AM
Ethereum is not getting carried by the DeFi hype, just like in the past it got carried by the ICO hype. TRON and other self-proclaimed Ethereum killers have never managed to have their own ecosystem that could rival Ethereum's one. So, all these new features that they offer are irrelevant right now. Whether it's just network effect or Ethereum is fundamentally superior, smart contract programmers will keep choosing Ethereum over its competitors. This is why TRON has been stuck with the same price ever since 2018.
Exactly how it is. Tron is stagnating and never put out anything that could be called as ethereum killer since that 2018 year.
So no wonder there is almost no hype about tron and ethereum is hyped up a lot


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: judeafante on August 01, 2020, 05:08:02 AM
There have been talks by the TRON community about the next iteration of the "infamous" smart contract platform (TRON version 4.0). They plan to launch the next version of TRON by July 7th, 2020. Apparently, the TRON blockchain will have quicker block times and greater privacy features. The team claims that the project will become the "first" smart contract platform to use ZK-SNARKS for on-chain transactions. There isn't much info about the upgrade, other than what has been said previously. If TRON 4.0 successfully launches, it could become another "blow" to the Ethereum blockchain. Or is it?

Do you think that the newly-anticipated release of the TRON blockchain is full of hype? If not, why? Knowing how many "Ethereum Killers" have emerged over time without any success so far, I think that TRON will just be another "nail in the coffin".

What are your thoughts ???

I don't think there is hype on this if they are going to fix or add some features to make their coin the choice of users and investors hype are for those coins who have no platform or products to speak and they are only talks of coming up products, Tron is a very strong coin in the market not the kind of hype coin.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: nicedreams on August 01, 2020, 01:18:35 PM
My thought is I wish I dump this coin and switch to ETH before today's event. Heck, since I hold TRON bag when it rolls out the TRON 4.0, saw it has nothing remarkable, I thought ETH 2.0 would be the same, my bad. In the end, only the original is the real killer and other just copy cat.


Title: Re: TRON 4.0: Boom or Bust?
Post by: Abiky on August 04, 2020, 06:15:15 PM
Even if you copy everything, it will be hard to defeat the classic in terms of name valuation and the easiness in which developers can work with it and come up with a good solution without much work and that said ETH has its flaws and we are seeing it in the gas price as the transaction charges keeps on increasing and the ETH 2.0 roll out is delayed, with these situation i do not see these competitors going bust.

Good point. But I doubt developers and individuals will be migrating to a centralized chain like TRON. Alternatives like Cardano, EOS, and Tezos are much better options in my own opinion. TRON may go bust, but these smart contract platforms won't. The more ETH 2.0 gets delayed, the better it'll be for the mainstream adoption of alternative smart contract platforms. Even with ETH's current state, there are several "Layer-Two" solutions for scalability. Developers and individuals can simply use these solutions in order to avoid waiting hours for transactions to get confirmed on the Blockchain or paying high fees. It's all a matter of mainstream adoption than anything else. While TRON's technicalities are good, the way it's organized is not. Maybe someone will create "TRON Classic" in the future? With TRON's open source design, anyone can create a better, decentralized version of it.

Nonetheless, the implementation of TRON 4.0 had little to no impact over TRX's price on the market. There doesn't seem to be much difference between this version and the previous version of TRON. The changes are quite minimal if you ask me. It's been nothing but hype in order to pump TRX's price on the market. Luckily, people are starting to notice Justin Sun's schemes which is the reason why prices haven't moved on the market. As the industry becomes mature, there will be a separation between the "good" cryptos and the "bad" ones. And TRX is one of the "bad" ones because it's utterly centralized, defeating the purpose of crypto and Blockchain technology. Just my thoughts ;D