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Title: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: Husires on July 16, 2020, 07:40:30 AM
With the long list of twitter accounts hacked, it is a good time to make some security reviews, perhaps something wrong has happened and will be exploited in the future.
Are some measures taken to protect the forum's Twitter account?  ;D

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Bitcoin isn’t the problem. Centralized control is.


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: Bttzed03 on July 16, 2020, 08:01:13 AM
Code:
https://twitter.com/bitcointalk

I don't know if hackers would even bother messing an account with 14K followers and zero post since Aug. 30, 2018.

Who controls the account btw?


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: hosseinimr93 on July 16, 2020, 08:40:58 AM
Who controls the account btw?
According to following post, the twitter account is controlled by theymos.

Twitter @bitcointalk is official, but I only use it for outage notices and such.


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: notblox1 on July 16, 2020, 08:50:47 AM
With the long list of twitter accounts hacked, it is a good time to make some security reviews, perhaps something wrong has happened and will be exploited in the future.
Are some measures taken to protect the forum's Twitter account?  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/HS3Idl9.png
Bitcoin twitter account was sadly also hacked among all others with Cryptoforhealth SCAM.
You can read more about that in my topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262439.0

Bitcointalk twitter account survived this time, but there is no good protection for twitter, as even 2fa and password was changed from inside.
Only thing we can do as community is to support some kind of new decentralized social network platform.

Who controls Bitcoin twitter account?
Code:
https://twitter.com/Bitcoin


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: hilariousetc on July 16, 2020, 09:01:33 AM
Pretty embarrassing for Twitter, but I suppose it might at least it get bitcoin back in the news, though not exactly in a positive light. YouTube needs to sort their shit out too. Over the past week or two I've been seeing these double your bitcoin scam adverts before youtube videos. Elon Musk, Vitalik Buterin, the CEO of Sony and a couple of others have all been used to try get people to send bitcoins. Does Youtube not even verify the ads they run? Any human looking at the advert for one second would have seen that it was an obvious scam but I had dozens of them in the past fortnight. They should probably get sued. I know Facebook was successfully sued by MoneySavingExpert's Martin Lewis for constantly posting ads featuring him for bitcoin scams a couple of years ago and the same should happen here. 


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: Steamtyme on July 16, 2020, 09:36:22 AM
Does Youtube not even verify the ads they run? Any human looking at the advert for one second would have seen that it was an obvious scam but I had dozens of them in the past fortnight.
I'm pretty sure they don't my wife jumped the other day when i inadvertently yelled "For Fucks Sakes" as asn ad popped up in the middle of a video and it was a Vitalik interview from a year ago or something. It was bad enough when i was reporting the "pop-up" channels that would run these scams for hours. I legitimately couldn't believe how low their standards had sunk. The most annoying part was I couldn't figure out a way to report the ad directly and just wound up messaging their support or something along those lines.

I hope Youtube gets slapped, but I feel they'll respond poorly and go on the offensive with crypto. Instead of owning the mistake.

It'll be interesting reading the chain analysis to come for the next few weeks tracking the scam addresses and where funds move. Didn't look into it much but apparently CZ put out a large bounty on information in regards to the hackers



Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: UserU on July 16, 2020, 10:09:47 AM
Code:
https://twitter.com/bitcointalk

I don't know if hackers would even bother messing an account with 14K followers and zero post since Aug. 30, 2018.

Who controls the account btw?

Why not? It's the owner of the most populous Bitcoin forum 🙈


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: bL4nkcode on July 16, 2020, 10:34:14 AM
Who controls Bitcoin twitter account?
Code:
https://twitter.com/Bitcoin

No one knows personally, but publicly known as a person who has an affair with Ver, shilling BCH but got some love quarrel (I mean broke up) and now's back tweeting with bitcoin-related contents.


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: Timmzzy on July 16, 2020, 04:14:52 PM
Code:
https://twitter.com/bitcointalk

I don't know if hackers would even bother messing an account with 14K followers and zero post since Aug. 30, 2018.

Who controls the account btw?

You never can tell the purpose of most hackers some might use it to put you into trouble, or along the line use ur account to SCAM any member of your family. It's not about the number of followers you have.


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: Welsh on July 16, 2020, 04:34:11 PM
Pretty embarrassing for Twitter, but I suppose it might at least it get bitcoin back in the news, though not exactly in a positive light. YouTube needs to sort their shit out too. Over the past week or two I've been seeing these double your bitcoin scam adverts before youtube videos. Elon Musk, Vitalik Buterin, the CEO of Sony and a couple of others have all been used to try get people to send bitcoins. Does Youtube not even verify the ads they run? Any human looking at the advert for one second would have seen that it was an obvious scam but I had dozens of them in the past fortnight. They should probably get sued. I know Facebook was successfully sued by MoneySavingExpert's Martin Lewis for constantly posting ads featuring him for bitcoin scams a couple of years ago and the same should happen here.  

Depends on how the media spin it. There was several other big names included in the compromised list; Elon Musk, Bill Gates, and Jeff Bezos. I'm expecting those guys to get hit the worst in the news as there's a bigger target audience, but no doubt Bitcoin will be portrayed negatively for the hackers asking for Bitcoin donations.

I know that there's plenty of adverts on Facebook that are scams, and I believe they only get reviewed if people actually report them. Although, I've seen many scam companies continue to advertise despite the negative comments, and the probability of being reported by several users. Youtube's review team on uploaded videos is fairly strict, and their automated systems tend to catch a lot of the bad eggs. I imagine they operate on a similar level to Facebook with adverts though. I have seen some shockingly bad adverts on Youtube as of recent. It used to be just professional shot videos from established companies, but I've literally seen adverts of youtubers promoting their channels in recent months. So I believe they may have changed a policy somewhere for this recent influx.


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: actmyname on July 16, 2020, 04:44:44 PM
Any human looking at the advert for one second would have seen that it was an obvious scam but I had dozens of them in the past fortnight.
With those huge-ass platforms, they concern themselves more with algorithmic practices for filtration rather than any human-based interaction.

The 'perceptions of scale' concept only applies when the model is trained sufficiently and unfortunately, it's much easier to outpace the current type of moderation that these larger sites are using, especially if you have any amount of creativity at all. Scammers run wild.


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: vintages on July 16, 2020, 05:51:25 PM
Over the past week or two I've been seeing these double your bitcoin scam adverts before youtube videos. Elon Musk, Vitalik Buterin, the CEO of Sony and a couple of others have all been used to try get people to send bitcoins.
Let's look at it in another direction, only an avaricious person would fall for this scam. Anyone who is familiar with Bitcoin in the age and own a Bitcoin wallet should first know that doubling Bitcoin is a joke.

Even if a famous person wants to give out Bitcoin, they will only ask for their wallet address and not send theirs.

The hacking is just plain and simple common sense would have tell anyone that it's fake.


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: Sanugarid on July 16, 2020, 06:22:42 PM
Code:
https://twitter.com/bitcointalk

I don't know if hackers would even bother messing an account with 14K followers and zero post since Aug. 30, 2018.

Who controls the account btw?

Why not? It's the owner of the most populous Bitcoin forum 🙈
This is a coordinated attacks from various known celebs and organization, this meant something for the crypto market as a whole not just the bitcoin itself.

If I were the hackers, see this inactive account though I know it was the one from the bitcointalk forum, I won't bother to hack it, it's just a waste of time people here in the forum already know their shit scam. And maybe the twitter account was inactive because Theymos knew that things like this may happen coz we all know that twitter is full of scambag, didn't he?


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: virasog on July 16, 2020, 07:26:50 PM
Code:
https://twitter.com/bitcointalk

I don't know if hackers would even bother messing an account with 14K followers and zero post since Aug. 30, 2018.

Who controls the account btw?

By the way this bitcointalk twitter is a very precious account. The "so called Hackers" are after the crypto related twitter accounts and they would like to hack bitcointalk account too and they won't care if the account is inactive for 2 years. Their only mission is the publicity of their scam.



Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: Pmalek on July 16, 2020, 07:57:52 PM
Considering that the last tweet was made back in 2018, we can see that the account has great value for theymos or whoever operates it.

Makes one think, how many Bitcointalk members would fall for a scam attempt like that? Lets say the account gets hacked and someone pretending to be theymos claims that he has organized a Bitcoin giveaway for his birthday or some other occasion. The typical send x Bitcoin to get xx Bitcoin back. I think many would fall for it despite all the warnings and guides not to do it. Meta would be flooded with complaints as greed once again wins the 1-on-1 fight VS common sense. 


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: bL4nkcode on July 16, 2020, 08:12:44 PM
Makes one think, how many Bitcointalk members would fall for a scam attempt like that?
Soon as you see famous inactive twitter account start tweeting crypto giveaways after at least 2 years, you will find it too suspicious. Asking here first will be a good move but you will find others start participating the giveaway and those are the greed and ignorance people. Knowing people who are in crypto are more aware of this kind of scheme but you will still see the address of scammers/hackers getting load up.


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: actmyname on July 16, 2020, 08:18:57 PM
I think many would fall for it despite all the warnings and guides not to do it. Meta would be flooded with complaints as greed once again wins the 1-on-1 fight VS common sense.
Unfortunately, some of people who repeatedly fall for the schemes simply lack the capacity to create the pattern of the scam format. They may get scammed and fail to learn from the very situation that led them to financial ruin, only to subsequently fall for the same type of mechanism. Most would agree that if you simply don't send out any Bitcoins, you're at very little risk of losing them.

I'm certain that almost everyone has encountered a con or a simple "double your money" scheme. I'm also certain that most have learned from the incident... but for those who don't, they're the "whales" of the scam trade.


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on July 16, 2020, 10:43:43 PM
Considering that the last tweet was made back in 2018, we can see that the account has great value for theymos or whoever operates it.
Just checked the forum's twitter profile and noticed how had Theymos has fought to manage the forum security. No more frequent DDoS attacks and down times like it used to be back then.

Makes one think, how many Bitcointalk members would fall for a scam attempt like that? Lets say the account gets hacked and someone pretending to be theymos claims that he has organized a Bitcoin giveaway for his birthday or some other occasion. The typical send x Bitcoin to get xx Bitcoin back. I think many would fall for it despite all the warnings and guides not to do it. Meta would be flooded with complaints as greed once again wins the 1-on-1 fight VS common sense. 
Yeah, Some people are so greedy that their common sense leaves right after they see such posts. Imagine people who were scammed yesterday had ready bitcoins in their wallets and I assume they were not people were totally new in bitcoin where they were just learning bitcoin basics but they still fell for such a cheap scam trick.


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: Gyfts on July 17, 2020, 01:26:57 AM
This is a great article that was written on the situation - https://www.theverge.com/interface/2020/7/15/21325708/twitter-hack-global-security-crisis-nuclear-war-bitcoin-scam

There's speculation that the hack might have been an perpetrated by an internal source who had direct access to the Twitter API or some other internalized data. Verified Twitter accounts have multiple security barriers that were seemingly all bypassed. A company like twitter isn't going to store passwords in plain text so it isn't likely that this was a password hack or even a SIM swap because the likelihood of gaining access to so many verified accounts simultaneously is virtually zero.

There's not much anyone can do to prevent this, no matter how hard you try and secure your account. If you someone has access to internal Twitter data, they can post whatever they want and there isn't anything you can do about it. Best not to take these Twitter accounts word for anything and sign any messages to verify identity.


Title: Re: theymos/Cyrus @Bitcointalk twitter account
Post by: hilariousetc on July 17, 2020, 10:46:20 AM
Any human looking at the advert for one second would have seen that it was an obvious scam but I had dozens of them in the past fortnight.
With those huge-ass platforms, they concern themselves more with algorithmic practices for filtration rather than any human-based interaction.

The 'perceptions of scale' concept only applies when the model is trained sufficiently and unfortunately, it's much easier to outpace the current type of moderation that these larger sites are using, especially if you have any amount of creativity at all. Scammers run wild.

I really would have thought that there would have been at least some human verification at some point before the adverts go live just to make sure they're not advertising porn or, you know, blatant scams. This just seems like a massive hole that can easily be exploited by scammers and obviously is being done time after time. Saw another one yesterday with the Winklevi. I can't imagine it's cheap for the scammers to advertise though, especially with the amount of ads I've been seeing. Does anyone know what it costs roughly to do a pre-roll ad there? I guess it probably differs by content and creators but I still would be surprised if they made their money back, but it's obviously something the scammers are willing to gamble on.

Over the past week or two I've been seeing these double your bitcoin scam adverts before youtube videos. Elon Musk, Vitalik Buterin, the CEO of Sony and a couple of others have all been used to try get people to send bitcoins.
Let's look at it in another direction, only an avaricious person would fall for this scam. Anyone who is familiar with Bitcoin in the age and own a Bitcoin wallet should first know that doubling Bitcoin is a joke.


Well I don't disagree with you there and you've got to be pretty stupid and greedy to fall for it, but regardless youtube shouldn't be promoting this stuff.