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It's becoming more harder for new projects team to keep their promises to bounty hunters, some even said bounty hunters are getting free tokens for free, meaning bounty hunters aren't recognized for their work, I suggest all bounty managers to start using ESCROW.

I believe with escrow payment will be guaranteed, team won't be able to go back on their words, bitwings for example, after a complete year of waiting for payment they decide to do another audit on spreadsheet and they falsely accused bounty hunters without any proof.

Bounty Detective is the only bounty manager using escrow, if many bounty managers start using escrow it will be better.

I beg to disagree, Julerz escrowed bounty tokens for bounty hunters and all bounty hunters have received their tokens, some managers are escrowing the bounty token which is good, but if the team is trusted and they show good will it's ok not to do escrow especially if the bounty manager is part of the team, like what Oikos has done.

You are not the only one who think of this solution. There is one dedicated thread and a good discussion about it, The sincere bounty managers should escrow bounty rewards. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238383.0)

And I do agree that this is a good solution and other bounty managers should do the same.

I've seen him doing that in most of his projects, and that guarantees that reward will be distributed after the bounty.
This is good especially if the project is quite successful, but if not, bounty hunters will still have a hard time selling the reward due to its low price or lack of liquidity. For me, I am okay with no escrow, besides, if the team will not pay, it will be their reputation that will be put at risk and the project will fail.

if the payment is in BTC, USDT, and major coins, then there would be no effect regardless of what they will do on the project.

We are all humans, some will deceive us, some won't keep their promises, some won't show conscience at all, that's why I will always accept this escrow strategy, it's the best way to set things right honestly, I wish all bounty managers will follow this strategy

It is highly recommended that they do this to protect bounty hunters and their reputation, but as we all know not all bounty managers are independent many are part of the team and they are not implementing escrow, so it's better to pick an independent managers which offer escrow for bounty hunters.

Escrow of bounty reward is good, but it is not a bare minimum for a good Bounty, GeomaDAO was an escrowed Bounty, but seems the pandemic has flawed its growth.

While Cartesi excelled without being escrowed, a paying Bounty will always pay, either escrowed or not which is why you must dyor and join project that worths it for promotion

For bounties managers rarely uses escrow because it is useless tokens so even if there is ans escrow the distribute the rewards we may not able to do anything with it until it have some real value.At least it could make some changes and can be helpful even in avoiding the complete scam projects.So its on the hand of bounty hunters to demands escrows or they have to refuse from joining.

That's right! It really depends on the project itself. If the project is sincere with their intentions, they won't screw their bounty participants in any way. They will distribute their share according to the bounty agreements. Now, in terms of price, they can't fully control the price in the market because it depends on the traders. If traders will not see the project as promising, then it is bound to decrease its value.

Yeah there should be some system to secure the hard earned reward of the bounty hinters who perform all the tasks according to the rules everyday so denying their rewards is absolutely unethical and completely unlawful. If escrow works out well as a solution it should be definitely implemented to all the bounty campaigns as soon as possible.

What point you tried to say? This seems off topic from this thread, OP is suggesting use escrow on bounties, not asking purpose using escrow.

@OP indeed your suggestion is good for bounties. But, you should know... even the bounty is smell as a scam (e.g. fake team, plagiarized whitepaper, etc) many bounty hunters still join that bounty and ignore the warning from any scam-buster. Bounty hunters also must not joining any scam bounties to avoid from scammed or DYOR.

I just have seen that bitwings did the weird thing with the hunters. I used to know that they were a legit project but seems like they are not. It's really sad to see that hunters are being treated in such a way.
Escrow for bounty pool has been discussed couple of times before but most of the so called bounty managers will never follow that, that's for sure. On the other hand, hunters can avoid projects which don't use escrow bounty pool.
julerz12 also used to escrow bounty pool although he hs left managing campaign for a while.

yes, escrow is often talked about lately because of the greater likelihood of success. but I just finished escrow bounty a few months ago, it's been 3 months so far it hasn't been paid yet. but I just believe and believe it will definitely be paid, because the team also works well.

In my early years as a bounty hunter, those who managed bounties with already escrowing the rewards of the participants are the ones who always successful and there are lots of participants when they introduced a new bounty. back then, one of the famous to escrow the rewards is Bountyhive which is most of us here knows. the project they promoted back then used to be successful and every bounty hunters received their due base on the number of weeks they are successfully working. But as of today, there are only a few who manage bounties who do this stuff and even though they escrowed the coins or tokens, it doesn't really worth a penny after the bounty is done.

But you should know that escrow payment for the bounty program isn't completely safe-proof. If the group in charge of escrow payment has a dubious reputation or easily blows to the project team's demand, you will meet the same fate of no escrow payment.

The last I've checked on the bounty campaign I've participated back 2019.almost 20 of these did distribute tokens allocated for bounty hunters some of them delayed or reduced the number of bounty hunter's rewards, it's just right that bounty managers escrow the token meant for bounty hunters just like what Bounty Detective and Julerz have done for campaigns that they are managing.

We can differentiate a good and bad project, a good project will always try to do everything with a good way. Including the promotion way, bounty campaign is well known for most crypto currency project. Even, most of new project that popping up they will use bounty campaign as a way to make many people know against their project.

As you may know, bitcointalk.org is ond the largest crypto currency forum although priviously it was inteded to discuss bitcoin. I guess it is an easy way for all new project to choose an escrow if they try to promote their project is this forum. Because there are some escrow's service that can be use like in this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0

Only few projects are doing an escrowed for token payment. We are lucky that we have those doing that like Julerz and Bounty Detective, but as you said, as long as the team is trusted no need for escrow.

One example is cartesi by BubbleAlex, he did not escrow the bounty but the team paid their dues to hunter. Sometime it actually depends on the project if its good then no need to worry about it. Unless you are joining a bitcoin sig paid campaign.

You can demand that to a bounty manager before joining but if they can't provide, it's your verdict to just skip on it and look for another bounty that suits your standard which does have an escrow. The sad truth, most projects won't get an escrow because they don't have a decent budget for running their bounties. They all rely to the allocated budget which is just floating in the air for their bounties. Lucky if the project goes into success but failure if they didn't meet the expectation.

We all want escrow too but not all project teams will agree to escrow but it's safer for bounty hunters to join escrowed bounty campaigns, new project teams can't be trusted, they behave anyhow with bounty hunters once the campaign is over, this needs to stop

You are right, I believe all bounty hunters will support bounty managers start using escrows but the only issue now is if all project will agree with this. Another thing is not all bounty program is been managed by a bounty manager, some are been managed directly by the team, this type of bounty won't use escrow aswell.

yes I agree if the bounty manager must use escrow because with that bounty hunter is more calm in doing work because the payment is guaranteed, btw is not only the bounty detective who does that. Other BMs have done it now

escrow amount for the bounty rewards is a good thing.. but the negative side is even there is an escrow reward when the project decided to kill that project in dumping their tokens? what is the essence of having a reward when the project prince is 0

The fastest way for a bounty manager to build up his reputation his using escrow, this will safe bounty hunters from not getting paid after bounty is finally over, many project failed to pay bounty hunters most times and there is nothing bounty managers can do

After the stunt the DIA team pulled on hunters,  certainly escrow is a must to guarantee team won't just wake one morning and change rules as they see fit, and the annoying part of it is, some hunters are too eager to accept any decisions made by team even if it means they will end up will pennies,  hunters also have right to disagree and unite to speak one voice, but unfortunately this is happening and team are doing as they please.

How will you know if a team can be reliable? Every one thought that bitwings team are reliable until few days ago when they release another spreadsheet that's different from the final spreadsheet that was released before, escrow is the best

Sincerely this means good to the bounty hunters and the managers who will embrace this way whenever they are called for project management. Escrow is the best way that bounty hunters will be assure about the project they promote and not working in vain. Hope to see other managers follow suits with the likes of julizer among others. It's time we the hunter unite together and stand for a common goal of all manager embark on escrow.

If they don't agree to escrow you don't have to join their campaigns. The more people show they don't support projects that don't try to work for their trust the more project managers will start to care.

I've been telling you people for years to demand escrow and payment in BTC, ETH, or any other already tradeable coin.

You really have a good suggestion here. It is even annoying the way bounty hunters are treated by some teams and investors nowadays. They believe hunters get free token forgetting that the hunters invested their times to promote the projects while the investors use their monies.

Your suggestion is good, for Bounty Hunters. Because I've seen project teams pretend to pay bounty hunters after the bounty is over. This is a very bad job. If you use Escrow, the team of the project will not be able to do any new drama with the budget after the end of the bounty. But it will not give good results in all cases, because it is often seen that the projects manage the bounty with their own account. When they manage the bounty with their own account. I don't think this escrow system will work then.

Things can still happened even there's a escrow service, though the chance of being paid is much higher with escrow especially if it's really a
reputable person. The team will likely be obliged to let the escrow to hold allocated budget.


That's still not a guarantee, bm only relies with how the developers will distribute the rewards, if the team will runaway there's nothing that bm can do.

I can only support your escrow process. But do you remember the Kingcasino project, which was managed by a bounty detective? Escrow can confirm only successful project payment. Bitwings was managed by their own teams, not to distribution is also part of their plans or revenge to got red trust. I believe finally Bitwings will become a scam project as my experience.

If a project can't afford escrow they should never launch to begin with.

Let's forget that some escrows work for free/positive trust. Even if they demand 1% of the total amount to be distributed it's still very little. If you're distibuting a thousand dollars worth of coins the escrow payment will be just 10 dollars. Don't tell me they can't pay that much.

Even if they'd have to pay $100 to the escrow holder it's still nothing compared to the value of the campaign.

Yeah I agree with OP's opinion, it's very good for Bounty managers to escrow funds to ensure at the end hunters get rewarded. But sometimes the team doesn't agree to this, due to trust issues. Some go by the phrase "work before pay", even though some won't keep their promises at the end. Also, not only Bountydetective uses escrow as stated by OP, a few other managers do.

You guys should understand what is an ICO before demanding an escrow for the funds, that's why it is called an Initial Coin Offering, they are wanting an investors to get invested in them so the project will continue, if they did not get any enough that's the time they will terminate the project call for a closure. Now bounty hunters should know what they are dealing with, how will the team pay all of you if they don't get enough? So having an escrow is a big down for me, not suitable for bounty tokens. This is just applicable for weekly campaigns  ;)

These are norms when I joined the space, but the influx of new bounty managers into the space sell themselves cheap to these developers and they take advantage of it, there are many instances when team renege on their promise  to pay bounty hunters what they agreed on, they want free promotion and marketing

I have seen a project here in forum who already escrow bounty funds to bm, check out unifiny, they already give bm the total bounty pool in a wallet which everyone can see, and they haven't done any ico or ieo yet, any serious project who don't have an ulterior motive won't find fault in this, infact, only serious project can do this because they already know they will succeed with the project.

I don't see anything wrong with using escrow strategy, any new project team that has issue with escrow shows that the team aren't so sure of themselves and their project, if they are sure they will succeed there isn't anything to be worried about, at least bounty hunters job is to spread awareness of your projects

this will be a good solution only if all bounty managers can adopt it. its a shame for project to deny hunters their reward, a project that can do this can exit scam at anytime.

 Having an escrow for bounty project in my opinion is good , not just because hunters want to be sure they will be paid for their time and resources but also to encourage them in promoting . when you are sure you will get paid you will work more. Project developers  have been denying hunters of their rewards recently and this isnt fair enough.

I think there are still other managers using escrow while there are others who might not use escrow but always try their best to ensure their participants gets their tokens. On a more sincere note it is becoming alarming with the way project team now behaves once the bounty is over but since the token distribution still falls down to their hands there is little or nothing that can be done about it, many did it and went free. Also, it is not all projects that will like to escrow their token for bounty that is just the truth and I believe many managers tried and it didn't work but if the idea works out in every bounty then it will be a big plus for bounty hunters.

Escrow is the best way to confirm distribution for bounty hunters. That's why we need a bounty manager. Campaign managed by project team never legit to bounty hunters. I think this is a new lesson for bounty hunters. We won't participate in any campaign if the bounty manager doesn't bring hired escrow.

Agree with this many bounty manager are escrewing the bounty hunters payment so that the bounty hunter would be having the amount of token that they already work for it, it was a good decision to have a escrew on trusted in the bounty so many hunter would join them with out doubt and they relief because their work would not be wasted.

If the project was actually legit and had no intention of scamming investors, I doubt they would scam their bounty hunters. I have seen most people claiming that they didn't receive their coins, and the project actually ended up dying. I mean they never had any intention to pay the bounty or work on their project. They just wanted to use the bounty hunters to promote their work and scam their investors.
Again, if the team refuses to pay some individuals, then I think they have their own reason for not paying them. Perhaps the user that joined broke their rules?
But, yeah, keeping an escrow would actually help to bring peace in peoples mind. But, don't they pay users using their own tokens?

That's not a new lesson but that's an old lesson but the implementation depends on the team whether they wanna try to use the escrow service or not. So many hunters have already suggested this to the team direcly but they were rejecting the suggestions that have already sent for them.

If escrow was the strategy that every bounty managers are using right from the beginning of bounties there would have been so limited projects that will end up not paying bounty hunters or maybe the project failed for other reasons and the token became worthless

The current situation of bounty management is to bad because number of bounty managers are available in the market. So we don't find the another escrow to maintain the payment. We must read the OP post and find the trusted project is only way crypto platform, Because we see number of bounty campaign in each months so it our responsible to pick the right project.

I agree with this, escrow would solve many problems with bounties, there would be fewer bounties of course, but there would be fewer scams also!
Except that, escrow is a good for individuals, with escrow you keep yourself from troubles. And it's better to use it right from the start, don't wait to be scammed, don't wait to make a mistake and to learn from that, learn from mistakes that others made many times!

This is already happening. There are some bounty managers who accept only projects which have good potential.
But there are so many bounty participants that all the good bounty campaigns gets filled quickly hence people have to move towards bounty campaigns which have less potential and are often scam. So it's the bounty participants who have to stop participating in less potential bounty projects.

You are right that all bounty managers ask for escrow so that payments can be guaranteed, but out there are also bounty managers who are selfish. If he manages a project he is paid but does not care about the participants.

Escrow is working only if you trust in escrow provider

unfortunately there is no bounty campaign that can provide a guarantee of success because so far as I know many bounty campaigns are finished until the end but they are developers who do not pay bounty campaign participants so that is what causes the bounty campaign is no longer valuable.

So are you guys saying that having an escrow is not a #1 rule when it comes to conducting bounties :o? I'm surprised to be honest (sorry if I'm not familiar how things in the bounty section works) because I thought it was necessary even when when we are only talking about not so valuable tokens. Because money is money — every drop counts. All bounties should have escrow from now on like the sig campaigns. It is essential because it doesn't only protects the hunters against scam but also strengthens the reputation of the project.

Dude there are lots of escrow services to choose from. Here is the list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439910.0 . Though not updated or maybe others are not yet included, I can guarantee you will feel secured if you have them on your bounty campaign :).

So the fund that should be escrow is should be for the participants to guarantee the payment of the participant, bounty managers will be paid but if they will not let his participants get their rewards or payment, the result will be negative on his side since he will be tagged as bounty manager who didn't pay, before when ICO became too popular there are plenty of bounty manager but since it's not on their control whether the team will really play they are to blame, sadly that times escrow were not yet popular so we must find now projects that really do provide escrow, especially if they are set to pay only after the success of ICO.

no, he is a new manager and not the only one who uses escrow services because the previous manager already used escrow. This is only a message for all bounty managers to use Escrow before starting a campaign

bounty with escrow does guarantee payment to the bounty at the right time, and can also increase the trust and enthusiasm for bounty hunters to work harder. to be honest, now there are already several bounty managers who implement it, it's just that it all depends on the project as well, if it looks potential, then many people will be attracted to it. well, it's just beyond that, the team also needs to develop the project so that the tokens they make can have a worth price.

maybe the method you mentioned will be applied if it is effective in the future.
it's just that now there are still many who don't because they think they can handle it, no problem as long as the project you are participating in pays and is managed by a reliable manager.

This will be a game changer if every single bounty managers start using escrow, team will be completely powerless over bounty allocations, it's just going to be bounty managers and their fellow bounty hunters, honestly I don't like the interference on project teams in bounty hunters stuff, most times they cheat

actually your intention is good, but if you have received the token from the bounty there is no exchange to trade the token do you like it ??
for bounty now it is not as beautiful as its heyday as in 2017, so it's already too complex the problems that are in it, it's better to use your free time is not too focused just one bounty.

The importance of escrow service can not be overemphaiszed as it gives to an extent some degree of insurance to avoid unforseen challenges that may occur mostly as it conceerns the services rendered by individuals with no corperate entity backings. escrow servie has helped a lot in its own way and should be applauded.

Escrow is good. But we cant force some projects to give off their tokens to manager especially if the manager is not trusted or known to have reputation. I think there are some manager who can do escrow like julerz12 also aside from BountyDetective. This is the difference from bitcoin paid campaign since the manager are paying in btc and easily can be escrow to them like Hhampuz. But we can only see rare managers like that most dont do that and turn into scam.

I also think it's the safest and best option for bounty hunters like us. I have been going through 8 months of continuous work but don't get any coins. all due to no deposit or some Covid 19 issues, I am very sad that my income has been much worse than 2 years ago. If there are no good bounty campaigns and no benefits guaranteed for bounty hunters, I will quit my job.

Correct.
I saw that too.
Even with the most trusted member doing escrow, it ends there.

The project can still fail and that coin will just be another trash in your wallet.
It's difficult to make arrangement on how bounty hunters could be assured to be paid.
It had always been a risk when you join those bounties. You cannot assume it will always end up better.
Best thing you could do is filter what project you will join in.

8 months is alot but there is a user before that done over 1 year of working and not getting paid  .i feel the pain on it  . your income is affected but your recieving a payment , not bad and why planning to quit  ? do you know what will happen to you when you quit your job   . what if you have people depend on you , if not your going to depend on other people which looks more unpleasant   . lets only hope for the best on bounty , who  knows they will consider this proposal of using an escrow

That time will come and now that many more people are joining bounties it's the best time to start using escrow and limited participants, I will definitely follow such bounty managers that take this more serious, I hope bubbalex start using escrow in near future just like bounty detective

Exactly, some new project team Act like our work promoting very easy, and they even angry with us but they forget our hard work, as You  say Bounty Detective is the manager using escrow but participant is too much, so need to think about limitation rules.

It's up to bounty hunters to demand and support projects that escrow their bounty, bounty hunters are more than willing to work on longer projects and with whatever rules manager will implement as long as their bounty is guaranteed, we all want to receive what we've worked for, for a long time.

As far as I know the bounty detective was not handle the distribution but the distribution has been doing by the team itself, CMIIW.
Escrow is a must as it will give more guarantee to the promoters of the project. In fact so many times hunters were getting fooled by the scam project.

there was such thing happening in bounty when the manager holds the reserved fund for bounty or promotion as an escrow but I don't know why the practice stopped since then. It's still a good thing if the manager hold the fund as escrow so that there won't be some parties that feels unfair. need to note though, the person handling escrow should be really trusted, because we are not talking about small money.

Some people will disagree with you on this. I for one. I participated in the AMZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210456.0) bounty managed by Bounty Detective. But the whole thing was reorganised by the AMZ team after bounty was over as they started asking for KYC. I refused to submit my KYC because I smelt something fishy. The team burnt my 3771 tokens. BD was helpless and couldn't do anything on that. If BD had escrowed the rewards all that wouldn't have happened because my conclusion is that AMZ never wanted to pay participants from the beginning. Otherwise why distribute and then lock the tokens up on their site in the first place when it wasn't originally in the bounty OP? So, I don't think BD is exceptional when it comes to the escrow thing.

I think hunters who don't want to do a KYC should always avoid any bounty that has this as caveat: KYC is not required for the bounty campaign. However, the project team has the right to require KYC for suspicious cases. It's a subtle way of telling you they will definitely ask for KYC.

For Bubbalex managers, they will definitely consider this, because he is a manager who is very thorough and on time doing his work when holding a bounty, so be calm for that because everything will be answered over time.

I think there have been a lot of projects that created escrow fund for their bounty projects. Actually, I have joined a number of bounty campaigns before. But again, whether rewards are given but if the market does not support it, the value of the stakes distributed would still be worthless.

Bounty managers now are far professional, I also follow Bounty Detective,
reportedly they do use Escrow and it's good for bounties in the future, bounties will come back to life

By escrow or by something else, bounty detective is doing a good job. But bounty detective is managing so many campaigns at a time, failed chance has more. Bitwings never did another audit, they making new rules to reject more users. We should advise everyone, so that they don't invest any money in bitwings. Some rules should be updated to officially manage accounts.

Yeah you’re right about that, if all the bounty managers will be doing that and making use of escrow to secure the payment for bounty hunters it would be really cool. It’s quite frustrating what bounty hunters have to go through sometimes, it’s not easy to do all those jobs and work hard and at the end people will underrate the work you do and then you get paid pennies or nothing.

People just like to blame bounty for everything, they even blame them when the price of tokens fall, forgetting that bounty hunters are not investors, they are just working to promote a token and the tokens they get after that is their payment for their hard work.

Yes, I think we need to deal with the problem of withholding the bounty reward, delay, or sometimes, even won't giving it. Every time like that, bounty manager from team can give various reasons and excuse they want to justify it. Only a 3rd party in charge of escrow the progress of distributing bounty reward should be task for this job.

I have seen a lot of bounty use escrow, but honestly the result is not so good. There are still many projects that have collapsed and become scams and bounty hunters only get useless tokens and cannot sell them.

Why we should embrace the escrow of a things is, the bounty section had long time experience severe pains on the ass of the hunters, many had spend time, resources and nothing was paid to them after promotions. Some of these  cryptocurrency projects even succeeded and never care to get the interest of the hunters at heart. Escrow will play a vital role in ensuring that bounty hunter's get their pay as they meet their targets. I will be in support of those who insists for forum projects to always escrow their coins or tokens before promotion.

I've known a bounty manager named Julerz who is definitely using a trusted escrow for guaranteeing payments to the hunters. I think honestly that a legit escrow had a huge advantage for both parties, making sure that everything is settled and accomplished in a right way.

Like there are some bounty managers out there who had no guarantee of their trust. The project would allocate tokens to them for distribution, but there's a chance that they would run away with that. For me, I think escrow is really necessary for bounty distribution.

I can't disagree with you. What Bitwings team did only shameless scammer can do that. Bitwings is running their sale like for two years, yet they did not reach the soft cap, lol! No one bought their shit, so they got angry with bounty hunters! Bounty Detective and Bubbalex are doing better now! Only escrow can save bounty hunters' reputation; otherwise, it feels terrible when a successful project bans you when you ask for payment even after one year later!   

This is a laudable idea but then again if only bounty hunters will agree and abide with this. You will still have some individuals who would go out there participating in bounty campaigns without having any single thought about the progress of the project as well as the team members behind the project. So I say you make your own decision regarding this. If you see that any BM is not escrowing funds then don't bother participating. it's pretty simple.

Then demand to be paid in existing tokens that are already on the market.

If they can't afford full campaign payment in existing tokens demand half of it to be escrowed. Worst case scenario they'll go bankrupt and you'll get 50% of your payment but at least you will have some money.

I told you all that demanding escrow is a great way to verify the health of the developing team. If they can't afford to escrow 1000 USD to show their good intentions they must be broke and broke teams either go bankrupt or look for a way to scam.

some BMs apply this to the projects they bring to people. it is very likely that they are negotiating about tokens that need to be held by a third party in order to make trust even higher. bountyhive used to do this, only it started to fade. there are several BMs who do this such as bounty detective, murat, and others. I hope that there will be many projects that will use Escrow.

It is totally absurd saying that bounty hunters get their tokens for free. They are not free! They are rightfully earned by them for their hard work done in order to promote the project. Necessary publicity and marketing are achieved by the projects due to the work done by the bounty hunters. I agree with your point that every bounty manager should start using escrow.

But in that case, all the managers using escrow should be trustworthy. The whole funding of the bounty or signature campaign will be in the hands of one single entity so make sure to choose the right person for the job. Many scams happen these days and to be honest no one can really be trusted.

I just hope many projects will succeed in this market and are listed in various exchanges. I have participated in a few bounty using Escrow, but it is not too satisfactory. I only received useless tokens and it was not listed at any exchange

I once proposed this solution on a thread few weeks back. And now we have some BMs securing custody of the payment to assure hunters of their reward. For example Bounty Detective, Krypital Group and a few others. With that, promoters would be able to do good work in terms of quality promotions to ensure the success of the project.

Bounty detective has set the ball rolling and I hope other bounty manager would do the same and imitate bounty detective in this move. There are several occasions where bounty hunters get nothing for their Labour and that's very unfortunate. The bounty managers could undertake to avoid any project who's not interested in using Escrow. When this becomes a constant practice, bounty hunters would never have to worry about not being paid.

Now escrow is a must for the safety of payment for bounty hunters. Many projects don't pay to the bounty hunters after  promotion ended. Recently Digitalbits (XDB) cheated with bounty hunters after they have waited bounty hunters more than 15 months. If bounty managers use escrow, bounty hunters will enjoy safety of payment. Bounty detective is now using escrow and ultimately bounty hunters are getting payment from their campaigns.

Even when the project used escrow and then it will not give guarantee the hunters got the decent reward and the only thing that will give a guarantee if the project will be paying the hunters with the stable coin. It's better rather than use escrow. It's better to use escrow at the same time the project use native coin as payment too.

There are already a number of topics discussing bounty managers who should use escrow to ensure payment of bounty hunters.
Indeed, many projects without escrow can work well, like Cartesi without escrow can successfully list on the big exchange.
But with escrow, it will get better, so why not use it if it turns out to be good.

It doesn’t really matter if the project is a success or not and if bounty hunters are able to sell it or not.
The point here is that the bounty hunters should receive their share of reward no matter the price of the coin, liquidity problems or anything. All these problems are the latter responsibilities of the bounty hunters.

Most of the projects are scams nowadays, so it doesn’t really matter to them if their reputation is ruined or not but not getting paid does matter to the bounty hunters as they have contributed their precious time and efforts in promoting the project.

Nowadays, I don't want to join any bounty project without escrow or good bounty manager anymore. Maybe after going thru so many time got nothing return for my hard work in bounty, I come to even think any not using it have something shady.

It will be the perfect scenario if bounty funds are getting escrowed to the bounty manager, and the bounty manager itself are high-rated manager in this forum. But as we can see, it's not many of bounty campaign that getting escrowed, it is only some of it, even some of them are distributed after so many months after the bounty finished.

escrow doesn't necessarily mean the project developer wont break their promise if they choose too.. well still for now escrow is the safest bet for bounty hunters.. alot of shit going on in the bitcointalk bounty community as of recent

Having an escrow will ensure payment and will give security to bounty hunty hunters, but this doesn't end here. Even escrowed or not the question is will the reward have its value, or will the project continue to grow and survive. Bounty hunters should stop relying on managers and have their own decision on determining which project to join. Having a project's bounty pool escrowed doesn't determine it's  success or legitimacy.

Im just participated some escrow bounty campaign in the past year and this year also most of them are not totally distributed the bounty rewards and there are time also distributed but the problem is was not listed in any exchange site. And if that will take to long not listed they gone and the bounty rewards we get from them are totally useless and become a shitcoins in a future.

But I believe those escrow bounties that manage a trusted manager are worth to participate.

As long as the dev can send the payment first to the trusted escrow and then that will never disappoint the hunters. the problem is when the team was keeping the reward rather than wanna try to send it to the escrow.

Escrow is good but it still have few disadvantages too, the team might decide to abandon the project, or the project might be useless, getting your tokens didn't mean that you will be able to sell at high price, I prefer to join a bounty through a bounty manager that is well known in crypto space who makes sure team pays bounty hunters

I haven't join any bounty project with escrow payment, I just choose projects very careful and they pay me, oikos was good enough, they kept their promises and now DIA from bubbalex, one of the best BM on this forum, escrow is not that a necessity

Therefore it is better to join Bounty which is managed by Bounty Detective, I think the service they provide is same as  escrow service where they keep distributing tokens to all Bounty participants. Don't waste your time joining an unclear Bounty.

Bounty detective said they use escrow but I'm still confused that they don't because ARCS bounty was over and the team failed to distribute still, I sense they are waiting for the project team to send the tokenS

The only thing escrow do better is assured payment to bounty hunters, escrow is not quality project, what I'm more interested in is quality project or the bounty project, escrow or not I don't care much, sincerity teams will always pay bounty hunters fairly without any dubious stunts

I think if there would be escrowed funds for a new bounty project, many bounty hunters would definitely joining and engaging in to that bounty campaign since the rewards fund is escrowed, it can enlightened bounty hunters to participate in such project.

The bounty hunters don't have any collective bargaining power, and this is the reason why the project teams are treating them like beggars. The problem here is that there are too few projects and too many bounty hunters. At least a section of the bounty hunters are ready to join even the most exploitative campaigns. They think that it is important to gain some experience, even if that means that they may go unrewarded.

The issue of projects disappointment on bounty hunters is getting popular lately, I remember digitalbits refusal today pay hunters after a very long period of waiting, audit and re-audit. It was quite unfortunate even the bounty managers were affected and had to join the bounty hunters to condemn the act. I feel for hunters who struggle to get data and after the whole process, still get disappointed.
The best way out is for the bounty manager to stress the need for Escrow, which guarantees the reward for hunters and ensure that the agreement or contract is not breached.

True, they intend to postpone the delivery or wait for the price to drop many times and they will distribute it. I've met a lot of bounty like this year, these are really evil intentions and abusive bounty hunter. Escrow will be a lot better, but it does not guarantee the project will succeed

Escrow is needed for assurance of the bounty payment, if there's an escrow there is an assurance that the bounty campaign will pay the hunters so i always try to do bounty campaign that has an escrow so that my work wont be wasted and i earn token as a payment for my work. I believe that escrow is always a great way of making a campaign for assurance.

Thanks to escrow this freedom marketplace got confidence. Personally, when I am paying with cryptocurrencies I always find an escrow because I had a bad experience from the past. Scammers abuse the inability to refund payment.  :'(

it should work the same as when they try to advertise to big platform like google ads, someone must as act as enscrow to ensure that no parties will be dissapointed inside the deal. those reasoning which main purpose is to let the bounty receive less what they should shall be called as an abusive act.

I love to participate on Bounty Detective's bounties because of the escrow system they are implementing and this will boost the morale of hunters participating on such bounties because payments are guaranteed at end. Escrow system was long gone and missing it hence i have been a bounty hunter for a long time, it's a good feeling that to see it again now. Hoping for other bounty managers to adopt it again to relive the glory days of bounty hunting.

the bad news is that the bounty detective is promoting the kingcasino scam project, even though they guarantee tokens from the project but see now they are helping the scamer.we do not know how much the total loss experienced by investors.
I hope they will be more selective in choosing projects to promote.

It caused by the manager didn't wanna try to discuss about that but some managers have already started to do this to make its participants to get what they have deserved before.
The scam projects will always try to think how to fool the hunters.

It still really depends on the projects and the team running behind it, escrowing rewards might sound beautiful to our ears but it does not make any sense if the projects or the teams don't seem to make it right to the project to develop and be succesful. Escrow is a good thing but better implements something that would guarantee hunters to get benefited from what they have worked for.

although it's still very difficult to find a bounty with escrow, but here there are still some bounty managers who always use escrow, I'm sure in the future the bounty will be even better

perhaps an update is needed to avoid frequent manipulations, but all of them need quite intense cooperation because problems like this cannot be solved instantly.

it is great to be able to get updated information not to play down the role of others in each project.
I do not understand that what you say has been done by the Bounty Detective, of course it is very good because there is an update created.
but if many accept a project it is certainly not good because many will be harmed, bounty detective will be able to do that without realizing it because it will make a priority scale.

I have also heard that the old bounty manager will return again, that is, bounty portals to be able to return to take part in several new projects and declare that all those who work will certainly get the rights from their work. this is of course new news which is very good and needs to be supported, especially as the old bounty manager (bounty portals) is already very trusted.

Escrow actually does not guarantee that the project will succeed, say the manager does the escrow but the project that you are promoting is a scamer, it's the same as you get a token that has no value.
so more important is to pay attention to the project handled by the manager because if the project is good they will most likely pay you.
yes although there are some projects that do not pay, or cut the prize of the hunter.

Yes, there are still bounty managers who use escrow even though only one or two people do that, but for now there are still things we can safely follow in terms of trusting a bounty program, and everyone also hopes for the future. all bounty campaigns will come up better than now.

Both are good bounty manager who already escrow funds for bounty hunters, but for julerz many of bounty managed by him fail and now he stops as manager, different with bountydetective almost all campaign already listed in the market and succeeded, so for me bountydetective better than julerz.

Yes Oikos is trusted but don't forget not all project will do the same, so escrow will avoid disappointment

Escrow or not I will continue to promote any project that's good enough to me, not all good bounty projects will be escrowed and even bounty detective that claimed they are using escrow makes it look like a lie, I don't believe in the escrow strategy

It is indeed undeniable by bounty hunters, because every year the bounty campaign conditions are always different and changing, and specifically for this year I see there are several projects that are very worthy to be promoted by bounty participants, but if we compare it with last year, I think it's still pretty good for this year in terms of bounty campaign.

In my priority, if there is two projects, one have the escrow and one doesn't have it then, of course, I would go for the one have it in a heartbeat. I wish escrow would be a mandatory for every bounty campaign in bitcointalk.

It's inevitable and there's nothing we can do about it when team itself planned to exit scam in the end because of greed. I think BMs did their part to verify the legitimacy as much as they could and even agreed on escrow payment as i know of but KingCasino team did horrible that everyone not expected it. Sadly, it's total loss to investors and hunters who joined promoting it for 12 week wherein time and efforts got wasted.

Yes, the project choice is always open to be chosen by each bounty participant, but all participants will obviously choose what they believe in and he likes according to the considerations he has researched first, such as his escrow and others as well.

I agree on that i believe that bounty hunters will always choose what they beleive, but the safest bounty is the bounty campaign that has an escrow, if there is an escrow there is an asurance of earning and the bounty hunter work could never been wasted, there are now so many bounty hunters that become disappointed now a days because there are so many scam project that doesnt pay hunters that is why they search for the campaign that has an escrow.

escrow just helps you get your coins. I have hundreds of companies that paid me my tokens, but these companies have become a scam and my tokens is equal to 0$. they didn't even trade on exchanges

Not necessarily. Any project can have the intention to be bad even with escrow and I experienced this myself personally in crypto,,, whereas I have also been in completely honest projects with no escrow and they pay and keep their words as they always have. So let us not jump to conclusions I agree escrow is good but it is not a 100% marker of anything.

But it cost money to hire an escrow to hold funds, i don't know how much though but it differs per escrow, that's just additional fee for the developers on top of the payment for hunters.

I have about the same statistics, but still there are a couple of projects that did not pay anything, and now they are trading on the exchange and feel good.

I am not concerned about escrow, what makes me interested is the quality of that project. If they were to make an IEO at a major exchange in this market then I believe they would not need a deposit, and we would definitely get their money from them.

i Really disappoint to bitwing i think this is worst project and they don’t want to paying bounty hunter, i am active every time but they delete me for inactivity, now i agree that every project need to escrow, Bounty Detective already launch escrow bounty this is appreciated.

Escrow is a good way to ensure bounty hunters receive reward but it also depend on the project. Take DogData for example had their bounty campaign and did escrow with a bounty management but changed their smart contract few days before IEO making the tokens useless for hunters and when they finally send tradable tokens months later, the whole campaign token is worth $20. If a project team has no remorse or even conscience to appreciate hunters and pay for the effort they took to promote their project. It all depends on the project, if a project is good and honest, even without escrow they will still pay hunters for example Cartesi.

I also agree escrow would help a lot not just for bounty hunters but to also keep this hunting business running.
If things continue I think we would have less and less hunters joining the campaigns I remember back in 2017 most of the bounty campaigns would have over hundreds of participants and now look at some of the bounties spreadsheets.
I know that there are some who would continue on working as a bounty hunter but imagine having only few promoters of their project it wouldn't much effect for their publicity.

that's the thing to think about for every developer who wants to use escrow. at the very least, they can increase trust in bounty hunters by the way they hire escrow. Another example is, enough people pay attention to the current bounty detective or Murat. however, escrow adds value to a project.

Forget about the Bitwings scam project. They are running the sale for almost two years, they conducted IEO on all shit exchange like P2PB2B, Exmarkets, and then again extended the ICO  sale for another year. Now they deceived the bounty hunters, a real example of scam bounty! After DigitalBits, Bitwings scamming its promoters, I am afraid VID Camera (VI) may outwit their hunters too! So, escrow is the solution here. I like Bounty Detective's escrow service, that's why I joined in their campaign, at least my payment is confirmed here! All the well-known bounty manager should start the escrow system!

Yeah, bounty detective is the most reliable bounty manager in my personal opinion.
The manager of the bounty should take full responsibility to ensure the payment will be sent to the participants, so their campaign can attract more participants. Im very picky when i want to join bounty, particularly signature campaign because you can only participate in one campaign at the time.

Token pay is the best example that can be seen by anyone about how crap the project that didn't pay the hunters when the team has already gotten million dollars of money.

They were not getting a lot of demand caused by there was a big question about their reputation.

I'm sorry to say but I don't believe that bounty detective is using real escrow payment for bounty hunters, I believe they are using escrow to deceive bounty hunters to have far more bounty hunters following them, this reason why I bring this up is because bounty detective delay payments, if they are truly escrowed they should pay right after bounty is over

Actually there is no benefit. Bounty Managers holding the coin & after that, they distribute the coin to bounty hunters but if the coin didn't add to any exchanger or projects is fail. What are the benefits? Saw many projects that paid bounty hunters but finally, the project is a scam. Better to join quality campaign & try to join under the reputed bounty managers like yahoo,julerzz,bubbalex

Escrow is good but will be useless if the project did not reach the  soft cap or the developer did not push through on the developer or scam people, it's recommended to escrow the allocated rewards but do not celebrate and instead look on the project to see that they will reach the market because the token your holding is worthless unless there is a market for this.

I agree with that idea escrow for the bounty payments is a must to avoid that kind scenario later, although that the project team can replace a new token especially the ERC20 token if they want too. But I'm sure it has a big reason to do that, Anyway, I appreciate the Bounty Detective team doing to implement escrow and introduce a guaranteed bounty campaign payment for its bounty participants.  

Escrow only makes rewards guaranteed, if a project failed to reach it's hardcap or least the softcap there will be problem for sure, the token will have a very bad value once trading starts on exchanges, to me escrow isn't a must but still not entirely bad either.

Exactly, escrow will be nothing if the project developers will not achieved the target amount that they'll be needed to continue the project, escrow only secures that participants will received their rewards but not securing if there's value after getting it.
Hunters needs to do their jobs attracting investors and allow the developers to get what they'll need in order to have a win win scenario for both hunters and developers.

I do agree,

Even with the security of receiving your bounty, if that bounty token will be useless or become a shitcoin after the campaign, escrow will be useless as this will not determine that bounty hunters will receive the expected reward at the end of the campaign.

You should have a concern, this is a guaranty that you will get your payment and it is will be very good if the project turn out to be great if the campaign did not escrow and the developers did not send the money that will be a big lost for all the participants.

The only bounty manager I trust right now is bubbalex, I've done research on few projects he managed since 2018 and so far it's impressive, not all his projects are a big success like Cartesi but they are fully working projects, another good example is Ferrum project

Escrow simply means an arrangement that allow third party receives and disburses fund required to the primary transacting party. Though if the manager are trust worthy dont think there should be a need for the escrow, but to be on a safer side it should escrow, for the benefit of hunters. Escrow is a contract and manager can not go back on their word once its escrow.

I agree with what you said above is true, if a project launches a campaign and relies on a manager to manage the project campaign, indeed it must use Escrow to guarantee everyone who joins to promote the project, if all projects that carry out the campaign use Escrow I am sure everything will be fine and all the prize hunters will not feel disappointed for the distribution of prizes because some of their funds are already in the hands of Escrow.

Thats true, having an escrow is an assurance of getting your rewards when the campaign is finish. So even if it takes few months before it ends bounty hunters dont need to worry that they can get nothing on the time they spent for promoting the project. If only other manager and dev will agree to this then its good on the side of hunters.

This thing has already implemented by some managers like bounty detective. The team was sending the payment to the team before the manager wanna try to launch the campaign and this gives more confidence for the hunters too. This is must be tried by whole of altcoin managers.

That's right if Bounty Managers are honest to do the payments on time from their side. There are some new bounty managers who escrow the bounty payments , but disappeared when it's time to do the payments. They also delete their all social media accounts and only use new bitcointalk account to do that. So, it truely depend on the bounty manager's honesty, IMO.

I really like the management of Bounty Detective and love to do their bounties . Bounty Detective always try to do the best for all Bounty
hunters.

As far as I know, Kingcasino also used escrow, but eventually the project collapsed and became a scam. So the deposit only ensures that the bounty hunter receives the token, it cannot guarantee the project can succeed in this market.

Indeed, escrow is a key role in any transaction thus, most parties prefer to have one.
Especially in this crypto world, escrow is vital to have a good transaction and good relationships between the traders, buyers and sellers.
And having an escrow in the middle of every transactions give assurance and security for both parties.

although the payment is only a little, but if I already use escrow it is also enough I appreciate it,
because this will lead to a better bounty era, i hope so

In my opinion, this is simply a case of bounty hunters setting up expectations. We all well know that not all projects can do escrow since they do not have good budgets to begin with. They allocate their budget and these will be use for their bounties. Bounty hunters just want to push an agenda - well a good agenda that is, but is oblivious to the reality of crypto projects and the 50/50 chance of success. If the project is not a success, then of course there is no way for a project to pay the bounty participants. So I think, we can dream all we want but this will not happen maybe in many years to come.

You are right. If bounty managers use ESCROW, bounty hunters will be confident working on bounty campaigns. Otherwise, there is no guarantee to receive payments as mentioned in the initial stages of bounty. However, if the project fails or not able to raise enough funds, there is no help with this escrow. I think ESCROW in ETH or BTC will work 100% for bounty hunters ;D

Many bounty projects ended well with out escrow and the team paid bounty hunters very well, escrow can't actually get rid of disappointments in bounties because some times escrow tokens can become useless too

Bitwings is totally scam projects as I take experience from other hunters. These hunters can't fall victim to these projects if they know about the ethereum mining process, up to 2 ETH/months by phone. "julerz12" bounty manager also supports the escrow process and I hope he will be back soon. Nothing will be changed to bounty hunters, if they get failed project coins by force escrow process.

Admittedly,in every deal nowadays, escrows have been a core element and so most parties tend to have one. Modern technology is full of cyber security issues and so escrow is important to have a smooth trade and develop good ties between the merchants, buyers and sellers. Additionally, it does give sanity and kind of confidence of being protected to the parties of a trade. Having an escrow is the way to avoid being scammed nowadays.

Yes I agree wholeheartedly with the OP. The projects must establish a sense of trust for the bounty hunters by escrowing the bounty amount with a third party and this guranteeing payment.

And after the project failed, they couldn't raise money from the community. In the end, you just get ridiculous tokens and never sell them. It is not a good solution, we need solutions that can help the project to be successful in this market.

To make a successful project. support of a promotion with a bounty is not enough, especially if project that held a promotion is a new project I think they also need to use advertising platform and also have to improve their community.

I've participated an escrow bounty, but still I'm still disappointed because the bounty campaign that I've participated was fake and I have nothing to do with the reward.

I do not understand what escrow bounty you mean. Most of the time escrow bounty had already set the rewards and being trusted to an escrow service. Usually a project like that succeed because the team for sure are not fraud and will do or implement the project. Escrow rewards to a certain project is one way to make sure that the rewards will be distributed to all who participated the promotion of the projects. This is why others are looking for a project like this but there are few then escrow service run away with the rewards and being tag as scammer or fraud.

I believe that i am the project I promoted has been into escrow payments or it is the owner itself directly pay us to promote the project.  Whichever it is I do believe that using a trusted escrow will do to make payments of rewards available to all who promote the project. But of course scam project do not intend to do.it so for in the first place they are creating a project to scam investors. And it may be hard for the organizer or owner of the project to trust the funds to some escrow service for others were not trusthworthy also even the good escrow service provider especially if huge amount of money being involved.

Escrow is good, it erase the issue of team scamming investors when bounty ends, very good strategy for bounty managers like bounty detective team and julerz12, I hope many more bounty managers will start implementing escrow for bounty hunters

Not understanding what you are trying to say, do you mean that the bounty you joined became a scam and the tokens became junk and you couldn't sell them at exchanges?

He was getting fooled by the scam bounty and he was only wasting a lot of his effort to promote the scam project. In fact, this is not the first time and so many people have been getting the same experience too when the bounty becomes crap and token can't be sold.

No matter who you are or how smart you are as a bounty hunter, there will come few times when you will choose or promote the wrong projects that won't earn you any penny, escrow can't fixed this, crap tokens will still come around

Escrow is the best way out for bounty rewards to be secured. With the current nature of the cryptocurrency industry, where integrity is lacking. Bounty managers need to be extra careful in carrying out their job to prevent the project team from playing a fast one on them. I must commend bounty detective for the step taken in the right direction in their use of Escrow.

Rewards will be at hunter's hands guaranteed but is does not give you any guarantee of tokens having a value, just like GEOMA DAO, that has been distributed already but still no progress or anything about it getting listed in any exchange. But still, hopefully someone from the moderators implements escrowing Rewards in every bounty projects so bounty hunters will get what they have worked for 100%.

As long as the project can keep the demand and it will not give the dump like what you have already stated above and you must understand the one thing that it's not all of the hunters were also selling their tokens to the exchange sites instantly.

So many times the hunters were still holding their coins in their wallet.

You are right bro, some hunters don't sell their reward immediately they got it while some sell and move on,  between in most cases, the bounty pool is not usually the reason for a token dump in price, there are other factors involved, what is really bad is when the reward is not paid at all, if team don't want to use escrow and still kept their promise of payment would be nice.

At least, you got the coin instead of some promise about 'we will distribute at xx time'. Escrow help to let bounty hunter receive payment, whatever it worthless, don't list on an exchange or has a low price aren't matter anymore. Had you try OTC trading with your coin yet? See, you did have many options for it as long you have it

Escrow can't safe you from disappointments in bounty hunting grounds, for example you can get your promised tokens and coins and the value aren't so good, worthless or even pennies, be very wise and choose quality projects, don't aim for how much tokens you will earn.

This is so true. I also have the same experience. I have seen many projects decided to reduce the bounty pool if the price of the coin is increased. A project named TokenPay Didn't pay the bounty hunter after the end of bounty campaign. I also participated in that campaign.

Correct, what OP wanted was the managers going through the method of escrow participants tokens or coins for their work, than working and not getting paids at the end. We have had many times when campaign participants got nothing in return for their promotional offer on this platform. Though, the problem of dumping aren't going to be solve by the escrow but getting the participants paid is more Paramount. LEDU project got their manager not paid but because the bounty manager escrow their tokens participants are going to get their tokens without disappointments of any sorts.

Escrow is indeed good, but i think we should emphasize on, a good escrow, a good escrow that will be honest and trustworthy.
because just recently, a Bounty manager and an escrow eloped with Bounty rewards of participants. I think it's both ways, just do it right

Those saying bounty hunters are getting free money should also understand they burnt their data and time so it's a job not a free work. If someone works the person should always get it's reward which is generally done. Bounty lasts a month plus and daily tasks which is normal in every sectors so escrow is highly needed to avoid issues with payment

Escrow is important either for bounty hunters or bounty manager.
When the manager can guarantee the reward will be paid, many hunters will trust them.
It is good to gain trust from hunters, otherwise there will be no hunters join in your campaigns.

Thats what you called tempted managers. I dont see why some manager attempt to do this. Anyway if their account is like a member rank or does not have a value then its easy quick exit. But of course the reputation given to him if his a well known manager. Also he cant escape the world, this forum have some details of everyone so no one can run freely. There will be tracks to find you if you commit something bad. Lesson learned, choose a trusted one with so many feedback and experience with others to avoid such incidents.

Indeed but for bounties its rare to have an escrow for the rewards unless if its a bitcoin paying campaign because usually the manager itself hold the payment for the campaign that they will manage.

It would be better to see a bounties that has an escrow because bounty hunters will be motivated to work since the rewards are guaranteed.

There are many bounty managers already that are using an escrow but it cannot be implemented to all as the bounty managers didn't have a control over it.

Not only if all the bounty managers will decide to use an escrow and they will not accept a single project that is against to it. But as you can see,
there are many managers out there and it is very difficult to unite them as they are also competing to each other just to get a single client so they can also earn a profit.

Yes, bounty detective guarantees payment for bounty hunters, but what I know is that the average project he manages ends badly, why is that? because the bounty average he managed was only produce $15- $20 for 12 weeks of work and that was terrible. I'm talking for signature campaign, maybe for social media campaigns even worse :D

Because all blockchain transactions do not require an intermediary, they have to be immutable. But, also we can solve this problem by using an unbiased escrow service.

Julerz has always been my best Bounty manager, he always made sure hunters get paid for their work and that why he always escrow for his bounties, I just wish other Bounty mangers can follow in his footsteps, though Bounty Detectives are working towards that angle

Last project he handle where he escrow was Geomadao, but unfortunately the project was stopped and there's no guaranty of return, but I agree that escrow should be implemented on every bounty campaign that will be implemented, this is to ensure that no bounty hunters will be scammed, this is one of the major complaints of bounty hunters, nobody wants to work for free, we are paying electricity and internet connection
and bounty hunters are the one who make the projects looks good. 

He only use escrow for few and not all. So his bounty too for those not escrowed can run into problem. Example with clipx, a bounty he handled that just ended began to request for hunters KYC after the end. And they later announced not continuing with the project and planning to return investor's money. This is really not good for hunters to work as slaves.

Not all 9f his bounty have escrow but at least most of them he tries to escrow unlike other bm's bm's that are too greedy and won't bother about escrow except negotiate their payment,  if any of the other bm's are operating like bounty detective we would have less project trying to screw hunters over.

For hunters who are seeking for great opportunities, the escrow will play important role as they are giving good breathing
for every participants, after the works has been made they can expect rewards to be send inside their wallets.
Escrow gives that assurance hunters will be paid after doing their efforts helping the project being advertise around both
inside the forum and all social media channels.

The problem is with bounty hunters most times. If you have such knowledge and you kept quiet and join, you should know you are going to have an exit scam. If a bounty manager is part of the team, is easier to be scammed than a reputable manager.

It's a good thing for us bounty hunters that escrow is being introduced so that our efforts and hardwork will be totally paid off. Although only few of the bounty managers are using it now but sooner most of the bounty managers will be encourage to start using it too. With this, scam projects will be avoided and will surely be lessen too.

It's not impossible, but sometimes they don't want to assign someone to be their escrow, because the person who is used for escrow must also be paid by the project team and usually that person is someone who is truly trusted in this forum.

no one can trusted in the world of crypto always a lot of scams in many ways moreover we are talking about a new project that is make a bounty
many of the reasons they were when distribution started of the allocation deduction doesn't even pay off at all, Escrow way will make a bounty hunter smile as some managers do

indeed only by escrowing will make the bounty campaign trip run smoothly and usually those who make payments using bitcoin or ethereum will first escrow, unfortunately if using tokens I think few are escrowing which ultimately makes many projects fail or have very cheap prices because there is no support at all from the developer.

Escrow is good, yes. It's good to attract more bounty members and investors as they think they care with the community and want to reserve the pool for advertisement.

But if the tokens are not valuable in the market then those coins are surely useless. We have already tired get paid with useless tokens which become nothing on the exchange, we have seen that continuously.

This is true, everyone should use escrow to ensure the safety of funds for bounty hunter payments, many projects and bounty managers do not pay attention to this and bounty hunters are always victims. And there should be a definite agreement for bounties that use KYC or not, this is very torturous for bounty hunters. If KYC is really needed for the bounty campaign, I hope there is a platform to do KYC and it can be used to participate in bounty campaigns that require KYC. Such a system can protect bounty hunter data from misuse of data by the bounty manager or the project. Hopefully someone will voice and hear my writing.

I feel like using escrow is definitely not a solution to fraudulent projects who refuse to pay promoters. We have seen a case where tokens get escrowed and the devs created new tokens hereby making escrowed funds useless.

Key solutions to avoid disappointment is an escrow in stable coin or notable coins

Yes it would be better if most bounty managers will use an escrow but the problem is most of the bounty campaigns right now their tokens are locked until some point but they choose to run a campaign in order to attract early investors and investors on pre-sale so I think you will rarely find projects like that also escrow is an optional since there's no rule here in the forum that it is mandatory.

It is a good suggestion to remind managers to use ESCROW but before the condition of a project is inversely proportional. It is better to do an initial check yourself before deciding to participate in it because changes can occur at any time because BM cannot guarantee the success of a project. This just my opinion.

token with value, and using escrow, that would be very good for now. It seems like some of the current bounties have tricked the participants, even their coins are unlikely to list in any market. One of the advantages that can be seen from a project that already has a market, and using escrow is, the risk of a scammer is very small. however, escrow is highly recommended.

Disappointment out of the rewards and profiting associated with cryptocurrencies were very common. An escrow is used as an assuring bridge between the sender and the receiver. When we're part of reward program or some other promotional activities conducted by the trusted members of the platform even when there is no escrow we're on the safe side. So the disappointments of different users were out of the proper learning about the need for escrow.

Escrowing bounty tokens would definitely be a right step forward to secure the payment to bounty participants, but I assume not many projects are prepared to do that. I noticed that some bounty platforms (like the bounty0x) have started accepting only bounty hosts that provide their tokens to the escrow and I think that others should adopt this strategy as well.

I can't differ with you. What Bitwings group did just improper con artist can do that. Bitwings is running their deal like for a very long time, yet they didn't arrive at the delicate cap, lol! Nobody purchased their crap, so they blew up with abundance trackers! Abundance Detective and Bubbalex are improving at this point! No one but escrow can spare abundance trackers' standing; else, it feels awful when an effective venture boycotts you when you request installment even following one year later!

I agree. There is no guarantee that the tokens will be worth decent money, but it is much better to know that the tokens are in a safe place, and the hunters will get them anyway.
Unfortunately, very few projects go this turn. After all, this is not difficult.
If the project is afraid of a price dump, then it will be enough to conclude an agreement in which it will be spelled out under what market conditions the hunters receive payments from the escrow.

If I can remember, so many post have been made about this same issue on this forum, I feel this is not the solution, the only thing that can put a stop to bounty hunters been cheated is to be selective when it comes to participating in bounty campaign. If you and I don't take part in campaigns without escrow, they will be forced to use escrow.

Escrow is indeed a way to keep participants guaranteed payment for their work. However, if the Escrow comes from the project manager, there is also no guarantee that participants will get work wages. Because project managers often throw tantrums after the bounty is over. I think Escrow is a third party would be better suited than a project manager.

Depends on whose that project manager had been handling of those coins this is why its important to look at on whose the manager that been holding of the bounty program.
If you do saw that its part of the team or not yet known on this forum then better to pass out and find for another one.It had been suggested for how many times about
escrow thing about bounty payments but it hadnt been followed nor considered by those projects that do plan to launch the program.Is there something we can do?
Nothing! because teams decision would always be final thats why dont expect for these escrow matter to be implied.

If this Escrow is applied to all sections of the forum, people's fears will disappear, they will work with confidence, the number of bounty hunters will increase, and the BitcoinTalk community will be safer than before, for years, we have not found the appropriate solution to deter scammers. I think the Escrow decision will be the most appropriate solution.

It seems that now there is a new problem again, I see several managers who use escrow services or the token is in the manager's wallet but the team doesn't want to send gas to the manager so it keeps delaying distribution or won't even be distributed as long as the team doesn't send gas (troublesome thing)

Not only is the "bounty detective" manager making an escrow process, others already did it. Escrow is now my favorite process, although all campaigns should be legitmate by my assumption. I missed my USDT rewards from the "Injective protocol" campaign. We can't stop scam bounty managers or bounty hunters. In the bear market we filter so many processes, but during bullrun we don't care about those processes.

The tokens that bounty hunters get are legitimately acquired by them for their persistent effort done to advance the project. Fundamental exposure and marketing are accomplished by the projects because of the work done by the bounty hunters. I simply trust numerous projects will prevail in this market and are listed in different exchanges. I concur with your point that each bounty administrator should begin utilizing escrow.