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Most K-12 schools (elementary, middle, and high) and colleges plan to partially reopen in the fall. Students will be moving in the next 2 weeks or so. Schools across the US are instituting STRICT rules relating to how campus life will look in the fall.

These rules include but are not limited to: Not being allowed to leave your dorm, Groups have to be limited to less then 10, Wearing a mask at all times when outside of your room, Dining halls will only allow takeout, no eating inside of the dining hall, and so on and so forth.

Personally -- I think that college students will still party and things along those lines and there will still be outbreaks on campuses. I don't see this as something that will work out as everyone is expecting it to. You can make sure academically that students are forced to social distance, but they're not going to social distance when it comes to the social side of college.

What does everyone think the fall school year is going to bring us in regards to COVID?

Someone gets sick. The school gets closed, everybody gets sent home, the rest of semester is completed online. Or the school gets sued out of existence if they don't close it down and someone dies.

Of course it can last for a while because of the low probability that young people would exhibit serious symptoms. But that would just delay the visibility of the outbreak (not the outbreak itself) and would probably make the end result more deadly. There is also faculty and staff who may be in high-risk categories.

It's a bad situation, particularly for colleges. K-12 schools can at least make some decisions based on local situation. Colleges have to deal with out of state students, some will surely come from virus hotspots like Florida and bring it with them...

That's exactly my view.

I think that there is a distinct difference between K-12 and Colleges b/c of the fact that K-12 students don't all live with one another after school. They all go home to their respective houses. In college that's just not the case, everyone goes back to living with one another, eating with one another, and partying with one another.

Colleges are going to do the great thing where they open again, bring all the students back, cause an outbreak, and then send everyone back home with a refund check. It's  just being done to make sure the college stays in business for the year. Very stupid. Also keeps state and federal happy as they TRIED to reopen (what BS)

Plus ya know, a lot of the professors are all older. Mostly in the high risk category.

 

Probably not.

My guess is that teachers unions collectively decide it is safe to open schools on November 4.

To my knowledge, there have been zero student --> teacher infections worldwide, and students tend to not spread the virus among eachother.

Ideally, there will be funds in the phase 4 stimulus package that includes money for replacement teachers whose unions are unwilling to allow their members to return to work. From the looks of it, there will be no phase 4, and the expiration of enhanced UI benefits will make the lockdowns much less popular.

There will be another wave of Covid-19 for sure, there are countries who started to open the schools there but it cause to the increase of the active cases of the corona virus and it is the reason why they immediately cancel and close thw physical learning which is the face to face classes. When it comes to opening with the class, I do not have any problems but the one who implementing the laws should focus on the health of the students out there. Online classes can be a backup plan but not all of tge students can afford it.

Kids have lungs, they talk and breathe.

Of course they can be infected, can have internal organs damaged, can die from it and can infect others.

Kids vaccination records should include vaccination for COVID-19.  No kids or teachers should be allowed in schools for in-person learning without being vaccinated for COVID-19.

Your nonsensical post reminds me when in March/April people were saying that by the summer time the higher temperatures will kill this virus.
How well did that half-backed idea work out?

Stop the nonsense.  The idiots who will make a decision to open schools before kids are vaccinated should be charged with genocide.

Thinking about it again, you're probably right.

They're going to make students sign some crazy waiver saying that they can stay on campus and take classes online, thought they're not going to get a refund. That is unless some higher regulatory power forces them to refund students because the situation gets bad enough that they're forced to take action.


Probably partially true when it comes down to it in regards to the teachers union have a lot of power. Not sure I believe the fact that students don't tend to spread the virus to one another, unless you're talking about kids under 10 as I'm mostly thinking about college students.

Under 10 - Yeah, not as MUCH risk, though it is still there.

Over 10 - Same risk as adults.

for now it is still not effective in opening schools to normal learning as before, because it is feared that a new wave will emerge from students who will bring the virus from their respective areas to school, because people infected with the corona virus may have no symptoms at all, that's the reason why the government hasn't been able to open schools normally like before, and it's better to choose to open online classes temporarily in anticipation of breaking the chain of spreading new waves

I agree, because Covid-19 transmission is still in high condition and the number of infected continues to increase from day to day and it is very worrying if schools are opened if the situation is not completely normal.
as in the country where I live, Coved-19 increased and without realizing that a small number of children were infected, so it is better to wait for everything to return to normal and schools to reopen and as long as Covid-19 there the government will continue to implement schools or study at home online and stick to health protocols to stay healthy.

What will happen? Students will realise that the government talks a load of bollocks, and just pushes the interests of the money pharmers. With any luck it will lead to a realisation that the "health care" industry reduces life expectancy and the quality of life. It's time for a revival in natural health.

Seeing from the cases that have occurred to date it is the same as schools providing facilities for the virus to increase even more.
There is no guarantee that people who look healthy are not affected by the virus, but if there is an accurate detection tool 100% which is positive and which is not, then we can enter a crowd.

Why do you need to worry about testing if you have immunity to the virus?

( and you haven't been vaccinated )

Unless there is no vaccine yet, and as long as the number of cases continues to increase, then I don't think it's safe for the students go back to school yet. It's still too risky.

But here in our country, the opening of classes will begin on the last Monday of August. But it's not a traditional set-up for every school. Some will have to open their classes online which is a burden to some because not all have the privilege of a strong internet connection and a gadget to use in such. Face-to-face classes will be conducted in low risk areas but still need to follow the minimum health requirements. I just hope that when that time comes, the curve will finally go down so that there'll be no next wave of infected. Discipline is really necessary during this trying time, whether in students or teachers or even in ordinary citizen. As one Mayor in a city here have said, "Discipline is going to save us from this pandemic."

Pushing through the coming back to school in US of the students despite of the threat of the covid-19 pandemic is really not a good way to do. Even if schools will implement strict precautionary measures, still the age bracket of the students are lying on the vulnerable to get infected by the virus which is according to the WHO. Why in need to push through face to face classes in a rich economic country like US wherein students and teachers are capable to do distant learning through online classes.

Getting to school at times like this is really impractical most specially for the part of the students because they would be risking their lives just to attain the education they need despite of the threat of the infectious and deadly virus. Such action will just promote the increase of covid-19 cases in US on which they are still on top of the countries worldwide with the most number of infected individuals.

Education is important but the lives of the students as well as the teachers are important too. Distant learning will now be the best option possible if they really want to push through the opening of classes. Things can get back to normal set up once vaccine to end this pandemic will be discovered. But as for now, better stay at home and keep yourselves safe.

This reopening of universities will only beneficial for those owner of those schools.

While college students are studying in this new set of rules and regulations, they are also risking their lives for their future which is not good for their health.

Hopefully, as soon as possible, as soon as people have a budget for studies, we should rely on the online classes for the mean time. If there's still no vaccine that is being invented, it is still not safe to reopen the face to face classes.

College students are stubborn when it comes to setting some parties or gathering. It is because they want to communicate and hang out with their friends and classmates, and that's the reality of college life that we should also consider. No matter what rules and regulations you are going to implement in this reopening of class, they will still make a way to violate the rules after class.

Pretty much this. The people who run the schools know that they need the funds from students coming back to campus (tuition money and room/board) and they really don't care about student safety. They're just putting on a song and dance to ensure that students and parents feel safe enough to go back to campus.

Also schools are going to follow the guidelines that are established by their state and federal government to ensure that they get the federal/state money that they've been getting forever.

If states and the fed comes out and forces schools to be online, schools know that they keep their money, but for now they have to put on this whole charade about how things are going to be open b/c of money.

how is this immunity works?  will it happen right after the lungs bloated because its infected and then gradually back it its normal size that we can considered immunized already?

don't they plan online classes alraedy because the department of education in my country was allowing kids for online classes. this should also be applied to US.
the study shows that covid patients will experience breathing difficulties because their lungs are swelling. lungs is a vital organ in the body, you couldn't risk yourself inhaling your friends cigarette smokes in the enclosed room but allowing your kids to inhale uncertain air that could have covid.

It's obvious such a tragedy has be fallen the whole world.
I heard some one in my locality said, 'just a break over the weekend and the pupils or students have already forgotten what they've learnt the previous week not to talk of now that it has been months.
We all know how education has been the backbone of modern day civilization and most inventions of our time. It's very obvious as to the blow it is (education and the world) is receiving by nature of this pandemic and that nothing seems to work even with the best of caution without some consequences. The only way out seems to be either instilling in people the consciousness as to how much we must protect ourselves per head, make everyone a preacher of safety in this period of dark clouds and hope each person gets the hang of it while, we hope to produce a permanent cure.
Stay safe

I think this will bring more Corona infections, especially among kindergarten and primary children because their immunity is lower and on the other hand it is difficult to completely control the children and make them get far enough apart and you cannot prevent them from playing and mixing with others.
Of course, the situation will be much worse in poor and developing countries, where schools are heavily crowded with students, there is a large numerical density in the classrooms, and there are not many methods of prevention and proper guidance.
In addition to all of that, schools will be opened in the fall and early winter periods, where influenza is strengthened and highly active (of course corona is a type of influenza), so I expect that the spread of the epidemic will increase much more with the beginning of the new school year in the world unless scientists are able to make an anti-virus until that time.

Statistics show that about 87% of Coronavirus deaths are among those over 65. Kids of school age (under 20) have almost no deaths at all. Kids 0 to 1 year have had a decrease in deaths.

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It is because of the immune system but are you sure that the covid deaths related in teenager and kids will not change if there is no academic freeze? The physical class should not be reopen because there is still threat because of the covid19. The good thing is our president says that there will be no physical class as long as there is still no vaccine that been invented. It is good to prevent which is not opem the schools than to regret later.

I suggest that anything about academic career or calender should be suspended for now to avoid transmission of illnesse to another,know body knows who has be affected by difference virus couple with corona virus,even lecturer's can be the transmitter of the virus.
I just suggest that lectures should "kick off" through online and class room lectures should be suspended till proper eradication of corona virus and introduction of a specific vaccines for treatment of students and others are introduced to avoid increment of death again in society.

Little update on this thread. Governor Cuomo of New York has announced that all regions in the state can open for in person classes if they want to, most districts though are going to open within some sort of hybrid schedule. Meaning that superintendents and school boards throughout the state are going to make the call on what plan they want to go forward with. They can pick fully remote, hybrid, or fully in person.

New Jersey didn't give the option to their superintendents to go fully remote if they wanted to - but after some arguments with teachers, superintendents, and principles unions they've reversed that decision. Article here -
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/511664-nj-governor-reverses-course-will-allow-schools-to-open-all-remote

Nothing crazy new.

In my country, schools and colleges has no chance to reopen at the end of December so this is like one year summer vacation for the whole academic activities.But I am worried about how people will adapt to the new normal things, is online class going to e part of future study oth they get back into old traditional schooling methods.

Little update on this thread:

Many schools are still planning a reopening -- though a reopening is going to look a LOT different then it did last year -- there is going to mask mandates, only allowing take out food on campus, no visitors from outside of the campus (and sometimes even outside of your building), mostly online classes, and so on and so forth.

A few big name schools have come out and said that they're going to be closing down their campus. UNC, and Michigan State University have both announced that they're going to be fully online and Notre Dame has said that they're suspending in person classes for 3 weeks. One notable school I saw recentley was Ithaca College out of NY (a small school) has gone fully online due to them thinking that they're going to be sending kids back soon.

I think all of this is just going to end with colleges and schools closing up again for the semester / half year.

Since the covid didn't stop with the heat of summer, there is little reason to expect a winter resurge. (eg it's physically resistant to the temperature sensitivity shown by virus that emerges in the winter "flu season."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/unc-chapel-hill-move-undergraduate-classes-fully-remote/story?id=72426531
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michigan-state-university-suspends-in-person-classes-after-outbreaks-on-campuses/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/8-days-semester-notre-dame-halts-person-classes-146-students-n1237195

If only someone could have predicted that. But who cares, let's test it live on students, that's what they pay us for. Actually, let's not test the students, just let them mingle and see what happens.


Lawsuits in 3, 2, 1...

.... Such horrible plans that are being repeated all across the US right now by many schools. They've literally just started a ticking time bomb when they've brought students back and the're praying that it doesn't blow up. Hey shit head, YOU LIT THE BOMB, IT'S GOING TO EXPLODE SOON.

I support schools that are really trying to reopen and are taking all of the protective meausres. I also support schools that are coming out and saying, it's just not worth it for the students to come in and then most likely leave at some point -- so we're just staying online for x amount of time. I don't support using kids, teachers, parents, and so on as guinea pigs.

I don't understand why they speak about waves. Did the virus stop spreading since the lock down? No, acc to the statistics in my country, it's like the second wave is now!
The second wae is the political concept, not medicine-based.

Been keeping an eye on schools in NY, because they seemed like the only area in the US where a partially successful reopen would be able to be achieved.

Though it seems like certain groups (teachers unions) aren't onboard with the way NYC school district is planning to reopen, and has pretty much forced the mayors office to push the opening back another two weeks. I think what they're doing is fair, given the fact that MAYOR DEBLASIOS plan was horrible and that's to be expected with the way he operates. For reference, NYC Schools were supposed to start on the 12th and they've been pushed back to opening on the 24th? (approximate dates, not fully sure)

Outside of K12 though, it seems like most colleges in NY are doing a good job (minus SUNY ONEOTNA) at testing students and trying to enforce the precautions that they've set forth.

For anyone that hasn't already heard, SUNY ONEONTA is a state school in NY and just today announced that they're shutting down because they have too many cases. Pretty sure they have like 350 cases already, which is partially from the school not testing people before moving in. We'll see if this trend continues in the state and in other states schools that reopening now. Crazy shit to say the least.


https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/09/suny-oneonta-reports-nearly-400-coronavirus-cases.html

https://twitter.com/WNYT/status/1301577594542882822?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

The first wave did not stop, which indicates a different skin on this virus than expected. It survived and continued thriving into the summer.

The 'second wave' concept presumed the virus would fade as summer came, and then reappear with the winter flu season.

No decision has been taken yet to open school colleges in our country everything is closed and students continue to study through online classes. It is unknown at this time what he will do after leaving the post the second wave will be more terrible in case of a slight decrease in the heat but may increase further in the winter. Schools and colleges are closed for the health and safety of the students and if necessary auto-pass arrangements will be made if they are not under control.

There are making a plan to reopen school, colleges and universities but in a very different way like each section dividing into two-part, one part for one day and second for other days. Through this way, in week there will be 2 or 3 class for each section.