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Title: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020?
Post by: juvebititalia on July 30, 2020, 05:27:47 PM
This one:

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79/
https://blockchain.info/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79

Can we do anything here to expedite/accelerate this shameful low fee transaction or at best just try ViaBTC and also rely on toxigon as well?

Any ideas will be highly welcomed and tipped as well if necessary.


Title: Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020?
Post by: jackg on July 30, 2020, 05:32:26 PM
I'd try with viabtc, it used to be on the hour you had to submit to get a transaction accepted.

Unless you can pay a higher fee as a double spend or own an output of the transaction.


Title: Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020?
Post by: uk1 on July 30, 2020, 05:35:53 PM
Transaction invalid: some outputs that it attempts to spend have been already spent or are no longer valid.


Title: Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020?
Post by: juvebititalia on July 30, 2020, 05:45:19 PM
Transaction invalid: some outputs that it attempts to spend have been already spent or are no longer valid.

with blockcypher.com is valid


Title: Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020?
Post by: jackg on July 30, 2020, 05:58:51 PM
It's probably invalid, can you see what address received the funds that were spent again.

The funding address of your transaction doesn't hold any funds. If the others are confirmed then the funds are lost.

Contact who sent you them.


Title: Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020?
Post by: juvebititalia on July 30, 2020, 06:15:00 PM
It's probably invalid, can you see what address received the funds that were spent again.

The funding address of your transaction doesn't hold any funds. If the others are confirmed then the funds are lost.

Contact who sent you them.

what ? I have seen on my coinbase account and says that the coins are pending 0.009 btc


Title: Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020?
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 30, 2020, 06:35:07 PM
This one:

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79/
https://blockchain.info/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79

Can we do anything here to expedite/accelerate this shameful low fee transaction or at best just try ViaBTC and also rely on toxigon as well?

Any ideas will be highly welcomed and tipped as well if necessary.

 It's not going anywhere until this parent tx confirms

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/18713aa33cc1602b6487e791601cc27a6d7fa5c4641a880ceecf0749f93e27e3/

 Sure it's a valid transaction but you can't spend what you don't yet have. (nor should you try)
 
 and miners might not pick it up because of this double spend attempt

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/e67f526021a19e67b426476128c539812c86435dc9af46b53f2b9481bf7112a8/

 You or someone else is trying to scam you or someone else I think.

 tips here: 36EEHh9ME3kU7AZ3rUxBCyKR5FhR3RbqVo <--wikileaks



 



Title: Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020?
Post by: juvebititalia on July 30, 2020, 06:56:42 PM
This one:

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79/
https://blockchain.info/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79

Can we do anything here to expedite/accelerate this shameful low fee transaction or at best just try ViaBTC and also rely on toxigon as well?

Any ideas will be highly welcomed and tipped as well if necessary.

 It's not going anywhere until this parent tx confirms

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/18713aa33cc1602b6487e791601cc27a6d7fa5c4641a880ceecf0749f93e27e3/

 Sure it's a valid transaction but you can't spend what you don't yet have. (nor should you try)
 
 and miners might not pick it up because of this double spend attempt

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/e67f526021a19e67b426476128c539812c86435dc9af46b53f2b9481bf7112a8/

 You or someone else is trying to scam you or someone else I think.

 tips here: 36EEHh9ME3kU7AZ3rUxBCyKR5FhR3RbqVo <--wikileaks



 



I didn't know there were these types of bitcoin scams , I have been scammed from a ebay buyer with a zero feedback


Title: Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020?
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 30, 2020, 07:40:05 PM
This one:

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79/
https://blockchain.info/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79

Can we do anything here to expedite/accelerate this shameful low fee transaction or at best just try ViaBTC and also rely on toxigon as well?

Any ideas will be highly welcomed and tipped as well if necessary.

 It's not going anywhere until this parent tx confirms

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/18713aa33cc1602b6487e791601cc27a6d7fa5c4641a880ceecf0749f93e27e3/

 Sure it's a valid transaction but you can't spend what you don't yet have. (nor should you try)
 
 and miners might not pick it up because of this double spend attempt

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/e67f526021a19e67b426476128c539812c86435dc9af46b53f2b9481bf7112a8/

 You or someone else is trying to scam you or someone else I think.

 tips here: 36EEHh9ME3kU7AZ3rUxBCyKR5FhR3RbqVo <--wikileaks



 



I didn't know there were these types of bitcoin scams , I have been scammed from a ebay buyer with a zero feedback

 If you wait for just one confirmation it becomes infinitely harder to be scammed.

 edit: also, use escrow


Title: Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020?
Post by: juvebititalia on July 30, 2020, 07:53:38 PM
This one:

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79/
https://blockchain.info/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79

Can we do anything here to expedite/accelerate this shameful low fee transaction or at best just try ViaBTC and also rely on toxigon as well?

Any ideas will be highly welcomed and tipped as well if necessary.

 It's not going anywhere until this parent tx confirms

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/18713aa33cc1602b6487e791601cc27a6d7fa5c4641a880ceecf0749f93e27e3/

 Sure it's a valid transaction but you can't spend what you don't yet have. (nor should you try)
 
 and miners might not pick it up because of this double spend attempt

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/e67f526021a19e67b426476128c539812c86435dc9af46b53f2b9481bf7112a8/

 You or someone else is trying to scam you or someone else I think.

 tips here: 36EEHh9ME3kU7AZ3rUxBCyKR5FhR3RbqVo <--wikileaks



 



I didn't know there were these types of bitcoin scams , I have been scammed from a ebay buyer with a zero feedback

 If you wait for just one confirmation it becomes infinitely harder to be scammed.

 edit: also, use escrow


i have receveid 100$ btc from this scammer in my blockchain.com wallet and after this i have resended this 100$ to another my wallet that is a coinbase wallet and after this I noticed the scam


Title: Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020?
Post by: Husires on July 30, 2020, 08:48:36 PM
This one:

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79/
https://blockchain.info/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79

Can we do anything here to expedite/accelerate this shameful low fee transaction or at best just try ViaBTC and also rely on toxigon as well?

Any ideas will be highly welcomed and tipped as well if necessary.
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Transaction invalid: some outputs that it attempts to spend have been already spent or are no longer valid.
It's a strange warning, it's the first time I've heard of it, how can it happen?
How can you or the person who wants to scam you make this invalid transaction?
when he uses a wallet support RBF, you will get RBF flag error.
How can you send and get this error?


Title: Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020?
Post by: jackg on July 31, 2020, 01:37:19 AM
It's a strange warning, it's the first time I've heard of it, how can it happen?
How can you or the person who wants to scam you make this invalid transaction?
when he uses a wallet support RBF, you will get RBF flag error.
How can you send and get this error?

With rbf enabled the network is designed to essentially ignore your last transaction and favour the one with the higher fee (default mempool consensus anyway). The number of inputs and outputs don't have to be the same.

I've done it in the past when making a mistake transferring funds somewhere I didn't want them to end up and used a version of electrum to sign a new transaction while offline (that didn't know of the other transaction) and broadcast it without a problem.


Title: Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020?
Post by: HCP on July 31, 2020, 04:43:22 AM
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Transaction invalid: some outputs that it attempts to spend have been already spent or are no longer valid.
It's a strange warning, it's the first time I've heard of it, how can it happen?
How can you or the person who wants to scam you make this invalid transaction?
when he uses a wallet support RBF, you will get RBF flag error.
Not necessarily... you might get a "warning" that the incoming transaction is marked as "RBF enabled"... but it won't necessarily stop you from trying to spend those coins. For a lot of wallets, they are considered the same as any other "unconfirmed" coins.


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How can you send and get this error?
The error is caused because the "UTXOs" (ie. Outputs from previous transaction(s)) that the current transaction is attempting to use as inputs are:

1. "already spent" - which means another transaction that was using those same UTXOs has already been confirmed in a block and the UTXO is therefore no longer available to be spent as you can't spend the same money twice! :P

or

2. "no longer valid" - which means that one or more parent transactions is no longer considered a valid transaction, so any UTXOs that they created are likewise no longer valid. This is most likely because it was replaced before it was confirmed by using RBF or a double spend attack.


Because the network is quite overloaded at the moment... it's fairly "easy" to create a low fee rate transaction that is not likely to get confirmed any time soon... and then replace it using RBF with a much larger fee rate transaction. So, it can be possible to trick people into thinking they've been paid, and then redirect the funds elsewhere using the high fee rate transaction before the original low fee  rate transaction gets confirmed.

If you are selling or trading NEVER send items/money etc until the receiving transaction has at least ONE confirmation...