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What happened: One of team member of Tradetoken Network is Fake

ANN Thread: 🔴🔴🔴 [ANN][ICO] 🔵 TRADETOKEN 🔵 DECENTRALIZED FINANCIAL APPLICATIONS🔴🔴🔴 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269593.0) | Thread Archive (https://web.archive.org/web/20200818091842/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269593.0)

Bitcointalk profile: tradetoken3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2824598)
Red Flags Added for this profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2231

Website information:
Tradetokennetwork.org
Archive pages: https://web.archive.org/web/20200818092341/https://tradetokennetwork.org/

Domain Information:

Proof:

https://i.postimg.cc/rmJgwF2K/image.png (https://i.postimg.cc/rmJgwF2K/image.png)

FAKE NAME: RONNE KERREN (Lead Programmer)

Real Name: Sunny Chopra
https://i.postimg.cc/1t20tgYR/image.png

Instagram profile link: https://www.instagram.com/ssunnychoppra/

Good catch!

Unfortunately due all this DeFi hype we gonna see more and more similar attempts, where scammers make fake team members, plagiarize whitepaper and do whatever is needed to appear legit and scam few bucks from inexperienced and greedy investors willing to invest in just about anything with "defi" in the name.

Great catch op. Maybe this picture help to be more clear that the team is fake.

https://i.postimg.cc/13prRcFv/Screenshot-20.jpg
source: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/724164815065877924/
This is the right angle photo of Sunny Chopra which is presented in the site as RONNE KERREN (Lead Programmer). Maybe we are going to see the same hype like 2017-2018. A lot of projects will come with fake teams, plagiarised whitepaper, at the end they will run away with people money.

Impressive investigation done by you. Just made a short visit to their team section and it seems to me if you spend some extra time then you will be able to detect more stolen faces which they are using as their own team members profile picture. After publishing a new thread on scam accusation don't make delay to make a reply on their official announcement. It's the way by which you can notify their official ANN visitors about their real intention.

By the way, i have already provided your thread link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269593.msg55019421#msg55019421) to their official announcement.    

oh yeah,,,you got the exact image which they are using on their website.

Note: "OP" create a flag against them and add the flag link on your main topic.

Thank you for images it will makes more clear for All.


Flags has bean created, thank you for suggestions and your post on their ANN thread.
About another team, I already do the research, but I can't find any similar picture of them. maybe another member will help us to find another.

Flag supproted from my end and user profile tagged with red paint.

Don't hesitate to contact active and experienced scam busters when you think you need their help. I believe they will help you to gather necessary informations about scammers and hopefully you will learn new things from them.

Keep continuing your research to find more scam projects. 

This is so unfair, you judge a whole project because you think one of the team member is fake. Why not report to project owner first then if no response you then go ahead and flag the project. I will remove this pic from the team for now so I can sort this issue out. There must be a mix up somewhere pls. Kindly give me 24hrs. This Ronne was recommended to our team by a recruiting firm and actually did some programming jobs for us. He did all our bots and helped develop our site. Pls let me deal with this matter and give a report back to you guys ASAP. Pls I am pleading with you guys. Thanks

How recruiting firm give you fake person? do they not verified people who will joining your team? removing the picture not solve the case, you are put people photo's on your sites without any permission! Of course we can delete the negtrust, makes the flags inactive, but not just by removing picture on your sites.

No, this is the proof of your fake team. I will not remove it.

Removing the picture is the first step. Secondly I have just fired him. I was very angry because he lied also to the recruiting firm. I guess we should have double checked, but because this guy did some excellent jobs for us. At least I'm real and the rest as well so pls try to understand from our end. Pls don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

He will be replaced within 48hrs. We have a lot of local programmers but we wanted to create a global team because we are trying to reach the world. I can only plead for you and the entire community to pls understand.

Go ahead if you are really can give proof of your legitimate, you fired him or not, that still not prove anything for us. You are blaming the recruiting firm, I'm not sure recruiting firm doesn't verify any data and profile of the member, especially to recommend them to the client/company.

I don't see anything good in your activities. Everything you are saying seems baseless. Because the picture of a project team depends on what? Who selects those pictures? Aside from the original team members, it's amazing how this fake team used pictures. Everyone is familiar with such excuses. As many projects have been caught with fake team before, everyone has given such excuses. However, everyone has an idea about your project, so I don't know if there will be any good results by adding something new.

Pls stop saying our team is fake because this is not true. The allegation was one team member was fake and I have tried to clarify this but you are still adamant and hell bent to destroy our project with harmful comments. Once again I reiterate my team isn't fake neither am i, you can verify this their links and contacts are all there. The only issue we have was with the programmer which we have sorted out by sacking him immediately

I understand the power you guys have one careless word can destroy a project or make the community accept the project.  Tradetoken Network is an outshoot of KLEGLITE RESOURCES which has been in existence since 2009 you can verify us by going to the Corporate Affairs Commission website https://publicsearch.cac.gov.ng/ComSearch/index.php (https://publicsearch.cac.gov.ng/ComSearch/index.php)

See screenshot here https://i.imgur.com/jkgFA2J.jpg[/img]

Were you unaware about him being not him and somebody else? If that's the case, why would anyone follow you anywhere when you were not even able to catch a person who is using someone else's personality and their name just to gain some money through it? And if you knew all this and are now pretending, I guess you'll now have a hard time here trying to scam us and/or convince about your so-called mistake.

If we were fake I wouldn't still be here trying to explain over and over again so effusively. What else must I do? Donate my bonemarrow? Pls kindly have a heart and consider all my plea which I am ready to continue to do until everyone is satisfied. This review isn't good, pls let's show some humanity here.

please do'nt spamming this thread. You just need create in one reply

You say your company registered as Kliglite Resources, and you edit it now on your sites. But, the address of registered company and your sites are different. Your address on the site

55a Adebisi Adetola Street, Victoria Island. I can remember it because i'm trying to search your address before. And i still have cached pages from your sites

https://i.postimg.cc/3JsPTjwf/Screenshot-2020-08-19-04-54-26-881-com-android-chrome.jpg

So, why its different?

But, the companies registered in NO. 7, COUNCIL OBULE AKOKA , AKOKA, LAGOS .

As old companies starting from 2009, no website for this company? How we can verify it? Even me can claim other business.

Because we have two addresses. One is the old one and the other the new one. When we started the company 11years ago we operated from 7 COUNCIL OBULE ST. AKOKA, but recently moved to 55A ADEBISI ADETOLA STREET, VICTORY ISLAND.

This will be updated on the site.
 
If it's possible you can also use our company account number 3481836015, FIRST CITY MONUMENT BANK to verify us. I personally opened this bank account.

Seems that you are sincere here but this kind of mistake, people don't forget easily. And since you have negative trust, it would take time to build trust from the community. If you want to move on, just continue what developments you have and just look for private funding instead of crowdsourcing. Because I don't think you can raise money via crowdsourcing because of this negative trust.

Thank you for your kind words and understanding. I believe with God all things are very possible despite any challenge stacked against me and our project. This negative score was given to me by someone I believe it can be reversed by that same person or persons if their heart is touched. Nevertheless if they refuse to forgive this mistake there is nothing I can do. I will sadly move ahead. The cause of this whole mess is me because I didn't do the necessary due diligence during recruitment.

But I want to make one big passionate plea with tears(real ones) to pls consider me and our project to get hosted on bitcointalk. This has been my dream for some 5 years now, I and my team have worked terribly hard to get here, just for this to happen. My ultimate goal is for the real cryptocurrency community (which bitcointalk is) to accept our project. For me(Us) it's not about funding but about acceptance. This is like my life's work and one little blip like this and it's all gone.

Pls the flagger, co-flaggers I'm pleading with tears in my eyes have a heart here and forgive me and my project for this. And God will surely bless you all for it.

I will ask this favor and forgiveness once and for all. Or if you need to put our project through more scrutiny pls do I'm here I will do my utmost to answer your questions sincerely and simply.

Oh, your five old dreams of creating something for the community is being destroyed.
Oh, I'm crying. How do you keep up?

After your 3 years dream of making it possible for children in Africa to lean with learntoken has been crushed by a CEO running with the ICO money?
After your 2 years dream of creating a social mining dapp with chaindapp has been crushed with the CEO running with the ICO money?
 
Now, the successful CEO, Rlnd Aneke, can't even get to the stage where somebody runs with the money.

Usually I don't waste my time with scams like you but, Mr Rlnd Aneke and Mrs Vivian Okwedy Aneke  , if those are your real names, you are some real pieces of...

You have a real company? Hmm, let's see what this company has been up to-
- jobfactory? Seeling useless courses and asking people for money to get list their resume?
- helpinghandsinternational? Asking for donations for starving children?
- team Incredibles? Where your proposed incredible scams?

I mean, it was just a stolen picture, everybody could see that the other team members are legit. And experienced! (https://archive.vn/eAiya) With such  CEO's wife:


Who wouldn't trust your project?

And don't bring God into this, there is a special place in hell being built for people like you, don't anger the only one that can save you.

Yes I dabbled into network marketing in the past and if you read my texts well I said I have been working on this blockchain project for some years if you take your time to come to my community and investigate properly we started out with  Learntoken and did a re-brand to Chaindap, and then finally changed name to Tradetoken because of what we wanted to achieve with the project. For your information our community members were carried along and were involved in the rebrand change because we carried out a voting polls to collectively agree on the brand changes. So I never ran with anyones money, I don't know what you gain by trying to bring people down and spoiling peoples reputation just because you think you can. Stop trying to make me or my project look bad.

And as per Mrs Vivian Okwedy yes we are related she is family, but she wasn't recruited cjust because of that but because she is a brilliant marketer. And if she did other businesses in the past that I may not be aware of well I can't keep track of that. Currently she is our lead marketer and she does a very good job and that was why I recruited her to my team. 

Klegliteresources is registered under CAC to legally do multi-businesses so we have a few trademarks like jobfactory as you mentioned is a recruiting arm of it where we actually help companies recruit staff locally and train them in preparation for work life. I'm also a certified project manager did you check that? We also train people in project management as well. Klegliteresources is a multi-facet company and we are licenced to have several trademarks.

Note that there is a new ANN thread for this suspicious project here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269835.0

@masulum, if you could update your post and include the new link for reference.

I see you're a paid troll. Our project is legit , keep posting your lies.

You talkin' to me? Well, attacking and insulting random people on the forum will not help your cause.

For your information, I have never called your project fake (although I definitely have my doubts now) and the information I have provided is true and accurate. You did create a new ANN thread, didn't you?
Feel free to explain where the lie is.  ;)

I have not insulted anyone, I just stated my case and what I think just like you think my project is a scam despite all the explanations and all that. I'm the entitled to my opinion of what i think of you and what youre trying to do too.


I am not hiding anything. I clearly stated it here that I was going to deal with the fake team member for falsifying his CV by sacking him which I have done. Then I also said I would have them edit the Ann thread and have it reposted, which I have done.

Period!

Dude, you called me a paid troll and a liar just because I brought up the fact that you opened a new ANN thread. That's kind of insulting, you know. How else am I supposed to take that?
If you are the comunity manager of this project then you are not doing a very good job and you gotta work on your people skills.

Now, to paraphrase your words, don’t insult me and don’t you dare try to label me as a paid troll. I refute that!  ;D

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Seriously, what are you, 15?

And you think you have people skills? Where I come from when people try to slander you we respond back because we have nothing to hide. I put the initial thread down because of the recruiting mistake which you fudders are using to try to build a false reputation for yourselves. But that's fine I don't care about that. But I won't let you or the other fudders railroad our project.


Period!

OK, now I'm a fudder too? Seriously? Surely FUD has a different meaning where you come from. LOL

No I know exactly what it means FEAR UNCERTAINTY & DOUBT...how you earn your living. A good tool to draw clients to yourself of course at expense of other projects. You have been having a field day with this for a long time it seems but I promise you it will end with our project

48 hours is gone, @tradetoken3 when you are promise to us to give a proof of your project. But, till today you are giving us untrusted evidence. Changing the address make me believe you are has Fake office address too. So what you want to give to us about your legitimate companies?

I am done with trying to prove anything to you or anyone. I have showed you our proof through our countries corporate affairs commission and explained the change of address due to the fact that we moved to a new office if you look at the year of registration it's 2009, this 2020 you don't expect us to remain in one address forever.

Don't play God I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone here anymore because I realized all of you are just bunch of trolls and fudders.

My company/project is legit all day long. Take your best shot.

OK, how about this?


https://i.imgur.com/CtBPfKU.png
source: https://etherscan.io/token/0x996df3d7e3054a39432e76295df2d7c8eab8b4bc

If you're going to lie to us, try and be at least a little bit convincing.  ;)

You truly are an ass. How many projects have done that presales recently and paid investors? Especially because of gas fee. I can even mention one or two  for you to investigate. Markarccy for instance, they completed their presales and sold 7million tokens but haven't distributed to their investors yet until next month. Are they scammers too? You are definitely a fudder a first class troll

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Like I said I owe non of you Fudders any explanation because there is no point, you're just fudders that's how you guys make a living

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

Bump,

New bounty thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271065 just posted by new user plainbounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2844762)
WP content is also plagiarized from EVIMERIA's (https://coinpaprika.com/storage/cdn/whitepapers/8477201.pdf) WP.

Original
https://i.imgur.com/qlsSzOn.png


Plagiarism
https://i.imgur.com/Ru7TANx.png https://i.imgur.com/24meXD1.png

wait, what you are talking about? That means who has posted in this thread and who also tagged you are all paid by someone? Then who pays us? LOL. If you are a legit company then why you guys used fake photos of your team members? And yes if the user is really related to your project it should be proved here by you.

Sir pls the matter of fake team has been resolved. And the thread has been deleted by moderator. All errors have been corrected. The fake team member has been sacked and another being rececruited. As for the the Whitepaper pls go to the site to download the right one. What you have there is incorrect. Thanks

So you've published an incorrect whitepaper on your own website? LOL

tradetoken wp: https://tradetokennetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Whitepaper.pdf
archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20200825005257/https://tradetokennetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Whitepaper.pdf

original: https://coinpaprika.com/storage/cdn/whitepapers/8477201.pdf

https://i.ibb.co/hVS4CjT/tradetoken-plagiarized-whitepaper.png (https://ibb.co/Rcqs7mJ)
https://i.ibb.co/5xwpVtg/tradetoken-plagiarized-whitepaper-2.png (https://ibb.co/Hp3wQ1f)

From what I can see, your 'incorrect' whitepaper is still up there, and still without any references to the original source. As noorman0 pointed out, you copied whole chunks of text from EVIMERIA's whitepaper, it wasn't just paraphrasing, it was almost verbatim (you just changed the title of that paragraph). This is a perfect example of your laziness and inability to write a few sentences about fundamental things like Blockchain.

So, are you now going to 'sack' your content creator too? Who's next?  ;D


By the way, learn how to quote properly.

They also launched a bounty company from a new page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271065.0

From their bounty thread, link to whitepaper: https://tradetokennetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Whitepaper.pdf
Archive: https://archive.is/15pO7

Yet, they continue to argue that it is not 'correct' whitepapper. I can't believe how stupid some people can be.