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Hi, everyone. I'm Cali Reign, a new, or I guess long absent returning member of BitcoinTalk. Active, in the adult entertainment industry. I was actually really shocked to see this forum still so active. I was a participant in GirlsGoneBitcoin, long, long, long ago. In the before for times, and have not really kept up on the industry.

In 2012-2013 there was a lot of talk about bitcoin (and I suppose blockchain in general) being used for improvements and optimization in the adult industry. Other than just straight payments (which ManyVids, Eros, etc) use, I haven't seen any real advances trickle down into the industry.

I was wondering if anyone would be willing to point me to any active adult industry projects that I might check out. Yes, it's really me, feel free to reach out on any platform I use. Same Username as here is used everywhere.

Thanks in advance,

Cali

Just a little more than a month ago, there was a campaign here by Devil's Dragon. Please visit their ANN thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260322.0

I cannot remember the project names but I'm sure there were already a number of crypto projects on the adult industry being promoted and discussed here. There was also RachelX if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure though if these projects are still active until now.

Finally, I think PornHub is accepting Verge (XVG) and Tether (USDT). 

In my opinion if you want a stable and sustainable source of income, just accept bitcoin as tips. Sure you could use those other projects like SpankChain, but projects such as those mostly seem to be temporary hype; and you might end up wasting your time due to the highly likely price crashes of these altcoins.

I'm not really sure what applications that could fit blockchain + adult industry except clients using blockchain for privacy. I remember this years ago, https://intimate.io/.

And this signature campaign, [CLOSED] THE LEGENDS ROOM Signature Campaign. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1794262.0) But it seems that the website is no longer running.

Coindesk occasionally makes articles about Bitcoin and the adult industry, you might find this interesting

What Sex Workers Want to Do With Bitcoin (https://www.coindesk.com/what-sex-workers-want-to-do-with-bitcoin)

SpankChain Launches Crypto Payments Service for Adult Content Providers (https://www.coindesk.com/spankchain-launches-crypto-payments-service-for-adult-content)

Pornhub Now Lets Models Get Paid With the Tether Stablecoin (https://www.coindesk.com/pornhub-now-lets-models-get-paid-with-the-tether-stablecoin)

But you can always choose to work for yourself instead of relying on some company, that might take away your money or breach your privacy. Use social medias to promote yourself and accept crypto directly.

Hmm, I would not know what you are looking for exactly, I have seen several projects try to do something like that but none have solidified. I think it's easier for the big adult entertainment industries to use BTC as a form of payment, a couple of months ago big brands like Brazzers and Pornhub were accepting cryptos.

Here's the project I'm talking about, it's probably already dead or something.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5149503

Thank you! That's a good place to start. The DevilsDragon thing doesn't seem like a very useful system, more like a bunch of buzzwords to try to chase an opportunity. But maybe I'm jaded  ;D

Pornhub definitely says they will pay you as a performer in Tether. I was ecstatic when they announced giving me the option to take USDT for my payouts for content there. Alas, their implementation is not the best. I tried three times to add my wallet address and they kicked it back three times.  My favorite platform, ManyVid.com has a much better implementation for accepting crypto for payments, but I have yet to see the option to payout in crypto.

 

If anyone's going in the adult world then surely they have to be anonymous and hide the other world, I guess BTC stands greater chance of doing that can easily workout for the customers as well. Some of them got talkative wifey, bold, loving yet talkative, so man always wander here and there for fun, LOLZ. So yeah easy to get customers.

I have seen one user whose thread has been viewed more than 55,000 times!!! That's huge response from the BitcoinTalk forum and could be best for you to work in similar fashion.

Here is the thread : [NSFW] Lets Have Fun :) 18+ Only!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640106.0)

*Not endorsing anything here, just a way out for OP.  :P

there are lots of Adult coins that have come in the space but I dont understand how they struggle to thrive. With so much failure, adopting bitcoin for exchange for services and other products could be reliable at the beginning before the adoption of own coins with so many attractive packages on the own coin that can encourage adoption. If anonymity is what looks attractive they should improve on coin or accept better anonymous coins, a small supply of coin will be smart

WOW! What a great thread!!!! Thank you so much for bringing it to my attention. She sounds fantastic. Hot too :)

I do not think that a person who has a certain number of bitcoin coins does not have other alternative cryptocurrencies with him. Bitcoin is more of a starting point in the cryptocurrency world. One way or another, you will have to buy and sell other coins sooner or later.

I think a lot of it (from the projects I have looked at) stem from a gross misunderstanding of the adult industry. Even when they appear to partner with known entities, my guess would be the partnerships amount to little more than a branding opportunity. Success in Porn (or escorting, camming, sugaring) is a lot more nuanced than "Take off clothes, get rich" and lots of the projects I have seen seem to have a "It's PORN WE ARE ALL GOING TO GET RICH" mentality. Ignoring how low margin and competitive a lot of the market is.  

You have to use a Tron wallet to get paid in USDT. Pornhub is only supporting cryptocurrencies that gave them a lot of money instead of cryptocurrencies that people actually want to use, that's why their implementation isn't ideal

I dont find this suprising since this forum is really good/well made and it will be really hard for any competition.

What improvements and optimization in the adult industry? I mean noone created and market widely accepted ANY other application of blockchain except Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is blockchain and in same time buzz word people use and have no clue what that actually means for real world usage.

THANK YOU!!!!!

I have been using Tether since its intro on Omni and was infinitely frustrated at Phub telling me I was not giving them the proper wallet ID format was fucking frustrating as hell. Understanding that the have integrated the Tron implementation of Tether and not having customer service trained on wtf that means makes way more sense.

What is the point you are trying to hammer home here? I do not argue your points on bitcoin being the superior leader in blockchain technology and implementation. I was admiring that I had not participated or viewed this forum in 7+ years and to come back and find it still active and vibrant is impressive. You would be hard pressed to find the same in forums dedicated to MANY other aspects of society popularized in 2013.

The adult industry is an ENTIRELY different animal now than it was then. Technological and platform changes, the rise of independent performers as sovereign talent apart from studios. OnlyFans, MayVids. Even Pornhub is an entirely different place than it was in 2013. This place seems, to me at least, to me pretty much the same, and I say that in very positive manner. It was nice to come back 3/4 of a decade later, and just make a post and get relevant answers immediately.

What I have not seen, that would be useful, is any blockchain identity or reputation systems being implemented in the adult space. That would be massively valuable to both sides of the market. I hope to find projects that are at least tangentially working on that

There are already a lot of projects that cater to the adult industry, but none of them have been successful and successful. Pornhub is now accepting Verge and Tether. It would be difficult for a project to be more popular than the older websites. Most important is the number of visitors and users for the project. There are also many scam adult industry projects.

Although I've never really went in-depth with the adult space of cryptos, I think I am quite sure there aren't any significant projects out there (especially on BTC) to look for. Might be the perfect opportunity for you to start working on something yourself that'd satisfy the needs you believe the crypto-adult space has..

I mostly only know that Verge once partnered with PornHub, but it honestly looked (as you said in another post of yours above) more like a way to pump their coin than anything - especially considering the time they chose to partner with PH.

Now about Bitcoin upgrades/updates that are adult services related.. I'm not sure there has been any progress on that niche to be honest, I have never really seen anyone focused much on it at all. But again, maybe this is a perfect opportunity you can't miss.

I think bitcoin can do a lot for the porn industry.  I've seen on some "dark markets" show how girls use bitcoin for tips with their shows.  Not only a good payment source but a solid "investment" as well.  I read recently how Pornhub lost it's partnership with PayPal and had been looking strongly at adding bitcoin/cryptocurrency as their main payment system.  https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2019/11/18/pornhub-and-porn-stars-could-be-about-to-give-bitcoin-a-surprise-boost/

I have been away from crypto for a while now.
I remember a project for Vice Industry Token that I thought it was promising, I even thought to take part in the ICO, but I guess it went nowhere.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2675532.0;topicseen

I really think that crypto and porn are a good match. Both can take advantage from another.
Will be looking forward a new project in this area.

You can check this list of active adult crypto projects provided by cryptoslate (https://cryptoslate.com/cryptos/adult/) including SpankChain and MODEL-X-coin. But most of this project seems not active anymore and it seems SpankChain is the only active adult crypto project.

I believe Bitcoin or altcoins with blockchain technology can be used to develop the adult industry. Especially regarding payment issues
in the adult industry, privacy, security and convenience are needed. These three things can be realized by Bitcoin and altcoins, and even
big websites adult industries such as PornHub already use cryptocurrency as a payment method of choice. Currently, PornHub accepts
payments with USDT and XVG. In the future there will definitely be more and more companies in the adult industry adopting Bitcoin or
altcoins.

just accept more than just BTC as long as it can be traded on exchanges like XVG, i think you'd be earning. GirlsGoneBitcoin is a popular channel in reddit but there are also tons of competitors there and like any other business, you will need a constant marketing for yourself to stay on top.

to give you a tip, i don't like it when there is guy on your videos, its not a good marketing. i'd be more interested if you partner up with another girl on your videos. probably other men too look at it the way i do.

HAHAHAHAHA

I'll try to keep that in mind. Unfortunately, the market data does not back that up. I sell and generate ad revenue off of boy/girl scenes at almost a 3/1 rate to my girl/girl. Trust me, if I could just eat pussy and have my GF hammer me with my tentacle dildo all day and increase revenues...that ship would have already sailed.

Fully open to anyone that wants to fund my transition into predominantly girl on girl content. I'll even let you watch the raw footage :)

In the meantime, this video is probably more in line with what you are after. https://www.manyvids.com/Video/2160037/The-Slut-Trap-Diary/ (https://www.manyvids.com/Video/2160037/The-Slut-Trap-Diary/)

Bitcoin tips. Yessir. Been on that bandwagon since before BTC broke $50. The good old Girls Gone Bitcoin. And I have definitely sold services and taken commission for custom content in Alts. But, always as a means to an end. You never forget your first...bitcoin  :) <3

-Cali
CaliReign.com (http://CaliReign.com)
@TheCaliReign Everywhere

Yup. That has been my analysis as well. I keep hoping for someone to point me to a project I missed. And one that isn't a giant pile of scammy crap.

I've hung out with the SpankChain team, and they are a lot of fun. But, I don't really consider their level of activity and volume of trading "ACTIVE" And even they suffer from the same thing I have felt about MOST ico projects. Unneeded complexity to justify the issuing of a token. Whitepapers and decks with thousands of words to say "We need a coinhopper on the front of out video game"

In pretty much all of these cases, bitcoin would have been factors simpler and significantly more effective.

Alas, if your project just uses btc, you can't have an overinflated valuation of an ICO and siphon investor cash into oblivion.

C'est la vie.

So many issues in adult, crying out to get solved by better tech. Crickets. Crickets.

-Cali
CaliReign.com (http://CaliReign.com)
@TheCaliReign everywhere

Here's a quick recap of how all adult projects in blockchain have gone post ICO ::kaboom:: ::ghost::

It is a great match. Maybe one of the best ones out there. But it seems to be a lot of failure to launch.

SpankChain had identified something really important to keep in mind. Advertising on porn sites is INCREDIBLY CHEAP, figuring out a way to arb that with grey market main stream ads willing to post in questionable parts of the net is a huge opportunity. I constantly see trump ads on my milf porn.

But, you need someone with actual enterprise erotic experience, and the integrity to not insist on a cumbersome alt coin structure to make quick profit, when bitcoin would have nailed it out the gate.

-Cali
CaliReign.com (http://CaliReign.com)
@TheCaliReign everywhere

If you offering any services in terms of BTC then you can sell your services in the 'Digital Goods' board.


There are lots of websites wich accepts cryptocurrencies as payment.

Well, 1) Noted. I know (and I do, well MArketplace, services actually). And 2) that is not the nature of this thread had you read thru it. That is just commentary in direct response to another forum members comment.


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Yup, also a very obvious statement. One I acknowledged in my original post in this thread. Looking for projects BEYOND just payments.

Thanks for stopping by.

-Cali
CaliReign.com (http://CaliReign.com)
@TheCaliReign everywhere

You kind of vibed with my thinking in two respects here. 1)No significant projects in the space that aren't scams or unnecessary bolt ons of alt coins. Volatility in crypto is a given, if not using a stable coin. But I have NEVER regretted telling another provider to take BTC. Even if the price swings wildly, you know over a long enough time period it will increase in price. Imagine doing production on a custom porn shoot you got paid in Verge for and watching it tumble to $.0066. Like regardless of short term market behavior, I feel comfortable that buying 1k in BTC for a friends baby when born will cover the cost of their college expenses when they need it if it is not spent before maturity. Long term savings in BTC is a much safer feeling. Bag holding is a constant game of hot potato

  2) Maybe this is the time for someone from the industry to take a serious run at btc adoption in methods other than shopping carts. The industry is in a state of decentralization. PornHub has pissed a bunch of people off and their opponents are growing. Full disclosure, I am still a PornHub Verified Partner Model and definitely still see the appeal of the economy of scale that PH provides. But industry and consumer sentiment is definitely changing. Boutique companies and even individual performers are starting to have WAY more influence than they did even a few years ago. All major adult awards have categories for cam girls and homemade or amateur performers, OR let those performers compete alongside all the major studios (The MindGEEK dark empire). I think there is opportunity to be had here and a massive adoption delta for bitcoin in the mix. Just gotta identify the opportunity. And decide if I want to take a swing at it or not. Until then...market research.

Bitcoin would offer so much in adult industry. Because of its anonymity nature, it would be easier for the customer and the artist.

Using crytocurrency system, it would be difficult to monitor or trace someone's porn habits since it uses a psuedonym that's hard to track unlike those records in store on credit cards and such.

It would be good mode of payment for the performers as well as an investment for them. Another thing is that because the centralized organizations consider adult industries as high-risk, porn sites tend to pay more for the processing fees and transactions. Hence, crypto being an option for smoother and faster negotiation.

Many adult sites now accepts cryptocurrencies. The benefits of crypto in adult sites would be great, however it would be a hassle to those porn consumers that were only driven by impulsive emotions and libido. These people won't bother to read and analyze a forum just to pay for some porn videos when they could just go incognito to browse a few.

If I have learned anything in this industry, don't underestimate the lengths horny people will goto to keep their perversions a secret.

But, agreed. The less friction in the process the better.

As far as I remember phub offered to pay in VERGE after paypal withdrew from them because of their own mistake, they cannot have partnership with other payment processor that time as soon as possible and so they chose to take it with crypto which is the VERGE.

Crypto in adult website is a good shot for those who want to hide their identity, but I don't know if phub has this until now. I don't know any adult site offering crypto, last time I got in there it was a token but I need to pay it if fiat.

From the gambling industry, sports, and move to the Adult industry, a lot of things that Bitcoin can be useful.
It for sure, it will hit the market when people see them accepting crypto, we know the sensibility of their identity that using crypto will save them and keep anonymous.

Besides, we already have this good news (maybe) as published by Forbes.
It emphasizes that many phub sites are already accepting cryptocurrencies and that very soon crypto is fully accepted globally and other industries will follow. It is just like that it needs time to fully develop and it finds out that businessmen are looking much for crypto as a big asset for their business to grow.

I also remember this, but it seems this is already an abandoned project although during the last 2017, this was very active with price pumping, and just like other weak projects, they didn't survive to the long correction and might decided to leave the project.

As this point, I'm seeing a lot of projects related to porn but I am not yet interested in investing those, but if you just want to access a porn site using crypto, you can use bitcoin and some altcoins with good trading volume as I remember there are porn sites already accepting crypto.

if you use bitcoin for adult industry won't it be limited. because not all countries can also accept adult industries, besides this this market is also limited to a certain age. so wouldn't you be better off choosing another industry that has more potential? please explain how your concept works

I think there are many porn sites that are accepting different cryptocurrencies right now.
There are some altcoins that have been created too for porn industry.

The most popular one that I saw is the Verge being partnered with PornHub 2-3 years ago and that created so much hype at that time that I got FOMO'ed that is why I can't forget the Verge/Pornhub partnership. I see that you are engaged with PornHub too. Maybe you can try accepting Verge or USDT since it is accepted there. Outside of it you can accept Bitcoin for other services. They will just PM you.

As far as I know, I just know an adult website which is the Pornhub recently accepting this kind of payment which is a good thing they now can enter the world of cryptocurrency because some of the people right now are holding this coin ( bitcoin) just to make an investment also they can use this now to buy some premium access regarding with this.


Some of the companies right now are already accepting the use of the bitcoin but now there are only a few of them because most of the time the transaction they are using related is on the blockchain just to store secured information on it.

Are you a business owner in the adult industry? I can tell a lot has happened in Bitcoin during your absence, more people, including Institutional are holding and trading it. Even JP Morgan from goldman sachs accepted Bitcoin as legitimate asset, Bitcoin ATM's mass produced, and countries has adopted Cryptocurrency like Japan, India, Korea, Philippines, China and Russia. Some even considering into switching into it, replacing the old banking system, which lead to the creation of DeFi. So yeah quite a lot has change significantly.

Well, with that kind of job, i can say its really for the adults. But, on the other hand, Bitcoin Industry  is not only for adults. Its great features, benefits and profits are for everyone who has been working so hard with patience. I guess, age doesn't matter here as long as you know everything about Bitcoin and you earned high salaries and profits.