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Bitseno is an upcoming, uniquely designed, online modern Crash casino. What differentiates it from the rest? In-house Crash gambling will be a near future reality! Currently Bitseno is en route to have multiple real-life marketing campaigns, ranging from bulk customized Bitseno-based flyer handouts in the gambling district by a small team, to mass billboard utilization throughout New Zealand's largest city, Auckland.

Why push for a real life based crash game?
The answer is simple. Crash is a game that is for a lack of better words, unknown to the bigger majority of the world in relativity to the likes of say Blackjack, Baccarat, Poker et ctera. We personally believe that Crash is an enjoyable game that the majority of real-life gamblers will never get to see. This is where Bitseno is set to be different.

Where is Bitseno currently?
As of the time of writing this thread, Bitseno is currently towards the end of it's site development stage. Once complete and ready to be released publicly (ETA 7-12 days), the investment stage will take it's place. Bitseno will seek investors from throughout the world to invest in to the initial bankroll, both online investors & also real life investors. As an investor, you will have access to the investor chat.

What currencies will be supported?
Bitcoin, credit card (New Zealand only).

If you have read to this point, thanks for taking some time out of your day to do so! We hope to see you when Bitseno goes live! This thread will be updated accordingly where necessary with relevant information.

Bitseno :D

Adding many other forms of payment models will be very good, such as litecoin (LTC), DOGE XRP XLM, which will be very good so that people can deposit according to the coins they have, and for all three of your sites are quickly finished, I want to see the differences as you mentioned above , are we not promoting this gambling with a signature?

welcome to the forum we can't wait to see and test out your casino i would like to ask if you could accept other currencies other than bitcoin such as ethereum. i'm interested on investing to your bankroll once i tested out your platform.

Will it be a provably fair crash game? I read your post but I do not find anything related the fairness of your upcoming crash game.
Here in this bitcoin gambling industry, we have so many sites provides crash game.
It will be a hard challenge for you to compete with the other sites if you have nothing special.
Anyway let me say welcome to the bitcoin gambling industry and welcome to the biggest bitcoin related forum.
Cant say any other things as it is not yet available, hope it will be available as planned.

Gambling sites keep popping up, that means the gambling industry is now increasing where there are many ideas that continue to collaborate, I am sure this will be a good promotion in this forum, and welcome to the forum, I always keep abreast of the development of new gambling sites to test its fairness.

Crash game is much in demand because it is simple only a little strategy but I like to crash often play on various sites but I want to know how Bitseno performs once it's launched.

   Panjul07 good question, is it provably fair crash game? I would like to hear the answer on that question, can we check provably
fair? You are right about the fact that many sites offer crash game, and more than one crypto-currency. They will have to offer
something different to attract people to gamble on their site.
   Bitseno.com welcome to the forum! I hope you will have some special promotions for Bitcointalk members. Good luck!

I like joining online casinos that support many cryptocurrencies. If you have attractive promotions and additional features, it will be a pleasure to play on your site, Also remember, most gamblers love the attractive wallpaper, so you should focus on the interface to attract the traffic on a larger scale!
Good luck. ;)

If you could combine the best from both worlds and accept more cryptocurrencies and fiat payment methods it could only benefit your user base.
You mention credit card payments only for residents of New Zealand, but what about the rest of the world?

Many online platforms and Bitcoin casinos support electronic payment services such as Skrill and Neteller. This could be one direction to go as well.
I know it's still in the early stages, but are there any online sources about Bitseno? I couldn't find anything. 

When i try to open Bitseno.com i got the following page. I understand that you are developing your site but its better if you can make a homepage with an banner of  "Coming Soon"

https://i.imgur.com/ykLrs01.png

A gambling platform with an empty promise as of now - it's all talk.

How do you plan to roll out your "investment phase" after the public release? Are you even allowed to solicit investments from different parts of the world?

Access to investor chat? How's that going to encourage anyone to invest gamble their money on you.

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While waiting for 7-12 days, you should at least get a copper membership to lift newbie account restriction like posting of images. Read this topic for more details - Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385104.0)

also, does it mean that they will require KYC for all players or just those that will use fiat currency? because normally, if it is fiat-based, KYC is compulsory. waiting for more updates on this site.

and as Bttzed03 suggested, while waiting for the launching of the site, better purchase copper membership so you will be ready to launch your new casino, not only with texts but along with visual images.

Thanks for your suggestion. Also, we likely will be once development of the site itself is complete! ;D


As mentioned above, thanks for your suggestion. Numerous people who are for multiple currencies, so I will forward this through to my developer and see how things go from here.


Hi Panjul, yes it will. It's provably fair system will be similar to the likes of Bustabit's.


Thanks for the kind words, hope we see you during launch!


Yes, to summarize you will be able to check the provably fair system for yourself, whenever.


Thanks Rifmax, we hope to see you on public launch! And yes, I completely agree with you on that. Modern and minimalism is what we had in mind while developing the theme. 8)


Great question Pmalek, as much as we would like to open the market to allow for and accept credit card deposits worldwide, the downside with doing so is dealing with charge-backs. We do not want to be dealing with larger figure charge-backs, as would most others in our position I would think. To combat this, allowing for only our country to deposit via credit card allows for legal jurisdiction to take place in the event of fraudulent charge-backs.

Currently there are none, it's still in development (site development) after all. BitcoinTalk was the first to hear about Bitseno, altogether.


Hi, thanks for the suggestion! I will get my developer to sort this shortly, as I agree.


Hi Bttzed03, great questions. Before public release, the site will appear online to accept investors who want to join the bankroll. As mentioned, this will be a phase (short phase, likely only stemming a few days) where both online investors & real life investors in New Zealand can invest. Primarily New Zealand investors will be targeted, however, again, online users can invest if they choose to.

Regarding soliciting investments from other parts of the world, I don't see why not, though it's more an option, opposed to pressing the fact that they should invest.

Also, investor chat will simply be for bankroll shareholders to talk to one another without the rest of the public site disrupting the chat with unrelated talk, think of it as more of a chat for those specifically who want to discuss about the bankroll and their investments with other similar individuals. :)

Thank you for the copper membership link, also. I'll check it out tonight.


Hi AmoreJaz, KYC will be required for New Zealand withdrawals only, rest of world will not be effected, and I can say that with certainty. This is to conform with the gambling law and standards over here.

It welcomed me with the domain is for sale. Is it already on your side and you have purchased it already? While the description looks good. I think you need to work on it first before giving some descriptions of what it will be like. I agree with them who are telling that it's empty and you should walk the talk.
And the first move is to have your website prepared even with the theme or design first if it's not yet fully functional but in your case, the website tells that it's not yet yours or what?

"Bitseno.com" was purchased the other day, we own it, it's simply sitting awaiting to link to the site once it's complete and ready for the public. I have already mentioned to my developer since the last reply I made to create a "coming soon" page. :)

I Just wonder what was the need to announce your gambling site at such an early stage when it is not ready. It just creates an unnecessary doubts on the people mind's as they are unable to see the finished product.

Was actually to say the same thing on how the hell for someone to introduce up a project in public forum even if they do know that it is still unfinished or not yet developed.Whats the point?
This do only give out bad impressions towards the project yet the link of the site still shows up nothing.So there no point on advertising it when its still on early phase.
@OP, comeback to his forum and made proper advertisement or announcement when its already final or fully operational.You are just telling nonsense on here.

I can see that their is a lot of competition in gambling sites because I see different innovation in gambling sites everyday and all the time,
Op you are welcomed to bitcointalk community especially people's choice called gambling, but this site which is going to operates only with bitcoin, I just that let it be a gambling site that operates with all the crptocurrency such as litecoin, etherum, cashcoin and other numerous coins to be mentioned.  Because be specific with bitcoin only via payment and game is not orderly tangible to my sight.
Thanks I applaud you once again to be member of this forum.

Welcome to the forum!!
Lately there are many casino sites that are opening, there is really a competition that has been generated, surely the platform will be excellent, remember that you can implement a signature campaign, where the platform is made known and creates a formidable reputation from the forum.

I think it is difficult for you to get online investors unless some big reputed people from NZ join in the investment bankroll. I would like to ask what will be the profit ratio for the investors and how will you ensure that the invested funds are in the safe hands ?

If this is the case, you should prioritize to link it as we are trying to visit your website for further glancing. I bet, you are working to get the license, too right?. Anyway, Crash game is actually one of my favorite game in a crypto gambling sites. Better if you also other coins than btc to play with. Also, maybe you can add other games than having one game as crash only.

When you say in house gambling, when will iy be possibly located?

At any rate, gona look forward to your success launched.

OP are you serious enough?
You opened an ANN thread of a site and to be surprised there is no direct link to the site.
You want people to visit the site but seriously after looking to the ANN thread a Child won't dare to open the site.
There's no attractive design of ANN thread, no proper management.
Moreover no important features are mentioned about the site.
Moreover where's the direct link?
Please update it asap OP.

When I read his post in this thread, the first thing that I’m looking for is the link of the site. His promoting this casino in this forum but no link. This is very important to the readers with full details even though they are just starting but it should be well planned.

I think he wants to introduce his company name first before he can launch his site because if I read all the replies from OP, I see that he still manages and communicate with his developer to prepare the site.


Maybe we need to have the patience for a while until he is ready to launch the site. We will see how the site looks, and we hope that when he launched the site, it will ready to get the visitor from here.

The perfect development might have not over, once everything is over we can try out the features available with the crash. As it is under development it is good to create a perfect announcement thread and give regular updates. This will give more visibility to the crash games.

So basically, it is a much advantage to the people that resides on New Zealand right? We all know the volatility of cryptocurrency especially Bitcoin, and recently it's transaction fees is increasing as well. And supporting only one crypto would I guess have you less clients than what you are expecting. I do suggest XRP, ETH, LTC, and DOGE to be another crypto that supported by your platform. With those altcoins low transaction fees and fast system, you would likely to have a better set of clients/users especially gamblers that also prefer the use of those.

I thought that the site is already launched since you already created a thread about your site. I'll look forward checking your site when it's done on developing. It's good that you listen to suggestions like adding more cryptocurrency as payment option. Welcome to the forum and good luck finding investors for your platform.

Thank you for the kind words, GeorgeJohn! It seems as though the suggestion of implementing multiple cryptocurrencies is a recurring suggestion, that being said, was noted prior in the thread above. :)


Thank you LUCKMCFLY, we hope it will be excellent also! Also, yes, we are aware but want to do that closer to the time. Currently, the thread was made solely to bring brand awareness while we await launch, which some people have noticed, whereas others have not.


Hi noormcs5, great questions. It would be no different to other casinos on here when you think about it. Many of them are funded via online, many bankroll holders consist of BitcoinTalk users I'm sure. Really, all it is, is set to be playable online, alongside in real life in a small casino itself opposed to only being accessible via online.


Hi maxreish, we have noted this previously. In-house refers to a physical venue, where gamblers within New Zealand will be able to physically come and play in the city. It will be located in our home city (largest city) / where all of the gamblers reside primarily, Auckland, New Zealand. Hope that information helps you out! 8)


Spot on, ethereumhunter. You, and a few others caught on to how it is going. People seem to jump straight to the conclusion that it should be up and running immediately. We have no intent to conform to this, however. The thread was built solely to gain the interest of users, that of which a good few have already shown interest, as we had intended for. Currently, the support outweighs those with negative opinions and outlooks. We do hope that those who aren't happy with the site being offline currently while it is in it's late development phase, can eventually enjoy the site, even if it's simply to check things out, pop in and say hi! :)


That's right, that was the point. Eventually the original post will be updated with the image thread design accordingly with site development completion. Thanks AjithBtc.


Hi Insanerman, great question and suggestions. To answer your question, there will be no advantage whatsoever to New Zealand users, they will simply have an in-house gambling option where they can come and play the same online game physically in person. As mentioned a few times in my previous replies, multiple currencies will be implemented due to multiple users suggesting the same idea.


Hi nakamura12, sorry for the confusion! :-\ We look forward to seeing you eventually, and also thank you for the warm welcome.

It's hard for me to imagine how crash can be properly played offline. Will there be, like, real charts moving in some ways? Or will people be looking on a screen? And cashing out super fast is of utmost importance in this game, so simply yelling the intentions would lose precious moments. This one can be solved with giving players buttons to push, but it seems like an over complication. Finally, crash online is truly random, and there can be questions and suspicions if the game is recreated in a physical environment. What's cool is that Bitcoin will be accepted as payment, I haven't thought about it being accepted in physical casinos.

Great question kryptqnick. It will essentially be rows of monitors / inbuilt screens paired with their individual mouse and keyboards, seated. Potentially even inbuilt tablets, but the exact device(s) are yet to be confirmed. Premise license to serve alcohol needs to be sorted, then there will be an active bar to purchase drinks from also, as with most casino's. As for the game itself, in-house users will be playing on the regular online site, along with other online users from throughout the world. Both Bitcoin and credit card will be accepted in-house. When playing physically, as it's just the website, you can simply check the game hash on-site to ensure it is provably fair.

i wonder what would a crash game would look like in real life and about its fairness. luckily i just read your reply just now, looking forward on the your new casino in few weeks. welcome.

Will you still follow the planned public release date (7-12) even if you don't get enough investors to join bankroll?
Where will you register your gambling platform again? Is it NZ? Are regulators not that strict there when it comes to identifying local and foreign investors?

By the looks of it, you're alone on this. Perhaps you should have a legal team for all this licensing and registration stuff?

Are you not concerned about the possibility that regulators would require you to ask KYC on all players to comply with AML?

Website bought the other day and ETA for release is 7-12 days? You're not in a rush are you?
A public testing before official release would be nice.

Yes, let's just look at the launch of their website and obviously we expect the best for this new platform, bitseno and is able to provide excellent service to their users, hopefully it will finish quickly and there will be no problems when bitseno is ready to launch

Good days :)

I have seen that admin here respond to each and every query very promptly. I think we should give them time and should wait for the release of the site before giving any more reviews. I will also suggest owner to lock the thread and reopen it once the site is live and running.

Real life Crash? This is new. Wonder what the house edge would be and you need to prove that it is a fair system op in order to attract gamblers. Honestly, I am happy with online crash games(Especially due to Corona wreaking havoc these days).

This is why it is good to see that you guys are offering both offline and online options. Take your time without rushing and provide a quality product op since the competition is tough out there.

I understand that you've just purchased the link the other day. But most casinos or any enterprise who have bought their domains are getting into it as quick as possible because it's a medium to allow your visitors or potential customers in the future to know what's your status as you have already made an announcement which is okay. No worries then if you have already gave the sign to your developer, I'll just wait to your launching and what will be the result of it.

Hi safari88, we thought the same originally, but it's certainly achievable. We hope to see you during launch, and thank you for the warm welcome! :)


Thanks again, ethereumhunter. We hope to see you eventually, even if you pop by to say hi!


7-12 days is our estimated time frame of how long we believe site development has until completion, in other words when we hope the site will be live by, realistically. As with anything, being it is an ETA, there is always a slight chance for delay, but we are aiming to meet this window of time that we have estimated. To answer whether it will still launch if the bankroll is smaller than anticipated, I believe we still will, it's just likely as with most casinos, maximum bet and maximum win will work accordingly with the bankroll count.

New Zealand is where it is primarily based, regarding the real life side of things, correct. And no, it's not overly strict here. We meet the rules and regulations of NZ Gambling L2 requirements, which furthermore means a license is not needed. As for the legal team, that is not needed here. I briefly mentioned above why, being we don't need to apply for a gambling license as we will be meeting L2. Foreigners (rest of world) will be exempt, as far as I am aware. I will more than likely talk with a lawyer for advice before launch to finalize things regarding other laws and whatnot for New Zealand users specifically, and finalize and polish on a few things.

As for KYC, to conform to laws regarding so, we will force KYC on each and every bank transfer method of withdrawal, that being only NZ users can withdraw via bank account, so KYC will not effect the rest of world. The only other method(s) of withdrawal will be cryptocurrencies, which will be a worldwide available option, as with every other crash casino.

Correct. We originally had another domain name from a few weeks ago, but decided to rename. Ideally we wanted Bitsino, but it was taken as we had expected. After receiving input elsewhere, Bitseno was decided on ultimately. We are quite contempt with where we are currently. You mentioned a public testing before the official release. Though I hadn't thought about this previously, I am sure it can be sorted easily enough. I will talk to my developer and see what can be figured out. :)

The best way to see this altogether is to see it as regular online crash. Everything else outside of your regular online crash (real life, in-house crash for New Zealand) will not effect anyone else who resides outside of New Zealand whatsoever, in the slightest. If you are not from New Zealand, it is a regular online crash casino for you.

Hope this helped Bttzed03, and thank you for your questions! :D


Thank you eXtremal, we appreciate the kind words. We hope to see you when we go live! 8)


Thank you MFahad, we appreciate the suggestion also.


Correct! Bitseno's corresponding provably fair system will be available to view live by any user at any time once live. Users will be able to ensure their game was fairly generated. Thanks for the kind words Haunebu, we hope you stick around to see things once live!


We are taking steps to mitigate the time it takes from now to the time of site deployment. As of the time of writing this, we are en route for the scheduled time frame until launch. We hope to see you around during launch, batang_bitcoin. 8)

maybe they are not yet fully release that why the link to the website is not yet added.

They will surely add the link when they are fully operational they only said what they are planning to use as marketing and explain what the gambling website has to offer and what kind of games are you able to play.

Yes, that is right, and of course, we will add it once launched! Thanks Kupid002. :D

Good luck Bitseno.
We're going to wait for the launching and just keep us updated whatever your steps are if you're okay posting it on this thread. Most of the people here are wanting to see new casinos joining the community and see how they start.

welcome,
you should also considered having a campaign here this is another type of advertisement since you will find many possible users here in this forum or you are planing to open an online gambling website .

Another casino and it's a real life crash it's pretty interesting i don't have idea how was that anyway we will be waiting for your official launch I hope you will stay here in the forum in long term since just like what Ratimov said.

they are promoting in real life I think the can manage to have good promotions and competitions in their website I agree with you that audience and players really do love promotions and competitions it seems they seems serious and dedicated about this project let's see where this will go. good luck and welcome.

Promotional events are very important to do for the initial stages of launching the platform, because of course this new gambling platform will definitely require a lot of users if it is running well then this gambling platform or bitseno will easily move forward to continue developing.

You have made your announcement but I wonder why you never include the links of your website or platform so we can also visit it easily.

I am not so sure if I am visiting the right link, I tried searching for website which is Bitseno.com but I cannot find anything upon hitting the enter button. If you haven't launch yet, I will look forward in exploring your website once it will be ready already.

Because the website is still in development stage as you can read on the OP, means that it will be useless if he post the link for now.
ETA for the launch is 7-12 days so you can expect to try this site within 10 days.
I'm curious about the plan of this site to bring the game into Real Life, is it even possible?
If it is possible, I wonder how will it work and how gambler will play it in real life?
Will be there a land based casino for this Bitseno so players come to the casino and play the Crash game offline?

We have a lot of questions so far we can't have that answers until the casino is launched I agree with you Panjul about the question about a land base location for players that will be playing it offline it seems that most of the players will still be playing online.

We plan to release a larger update shortly with progression and where we are currently, including new implementations and whatnot. We will keep everyone posted. Thanks batang_bitcoin. 8)


Great advice Kupid002, thank you.


Cheers for the warm welcome Ratimov, happy to be here! And we hope so too. As with all projects, it is sad to see abandonment / failure.


Thank you qory, the support is appreciated. We hope to see you around during launch! :)


Hi BlackFor3st, as mentioned in the original post, Bitseno is still in development. We will update the thread accordingly once Bitseno is live. Thank you for your interest, and we look forward to seeing you then! ;D


Hi panjul07, I have briefly skimmed over this in a previous reply, but I'm happy to explain again.

Users who choose to play in real life will be playing on the same online website with the rest of the world (Bitseno.com). It will not be on a separate server, nor will there be any advantage.

Hopefully this helped! :)

Welcome to the forum,

Your casino is upcoming and when it officially goes live, the ANN thread should be rebuilt with better graphic designs. After have good graphic OP, you should buy the Paid memberships (Copper) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote) to be able to display images on the forum.

Is your casino provably fair?
There is a website and service for you to consider: https://cryptogambling.org/

Hi tbct_mt2, it will be updated accordingly once there is more progression. Also, yes. We have implemented that provably fair system already. We want users to rest assured that all games are generated fairly, and are not manipulated in any way whatsoever. You have brought https://cryptogambling.org/ to my mind again. I will ensure with priority that Bitseno becomes listed as a verified operator. Thank you for your input. :)

I think you should. Since you'll be dealing with people's money both from local and international, it's important to cover all the legal matters to avoid future headaches with authorities. The last thing you want is to be accused as complicit to money launderers.
 
No further questions.

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What were you looking at? Their website isn't up yet. Are you lost?

I am unsure this was meant for this thread.


Thank you for the advice, have a great rest of your day/night. :)

That's funny. How come he is saying definitely seems worth the look? I guess, he is just posting without even checking the OP. No links yet, so he can't really check it out at the moment.

And in terms of gambling license, if they will not apply for gambling license in their area at least get maybe Curacao license. This will give added credibility to them. Just my thoughts.

Hi Twinkledoe, there is nothing needed to apply for. Legally we meet L2 gambling laws in New Zealand, which will only effect users residing in New Zealand, it will not effect rest of world users on Bitseno. With L2, no legal license is required to operate a casino here. L3 and above a license is necessary.

Unfortunately, we will not be able meet our intended time frame for public release. We want to ensure users receive an optimal experience on Bitseno, for this reason we intend to further better our platform before we estimate the new release date.

thanks for the update Bitseno don't worry it's much better to ensure the platform first rather than releasing it early and later on having some problems with it. we are looking forward on your official launch.

Thank’s for the heads up, Bitseno. Btw, do you have a twitter page? This could also attract more users to the platform in the launch event if you have promotions and welcome bonuses. I'm looking forward and will join the site for sure once it will launch.

You guys have to work it out and I do think provide a even thorough statement about the site :

How it would work?
Why is it a better option?
Is it safe?
Is it fair ?

Things like that , because there are numerous sites out here therefore you have to make yours stand out !

At the same time provide users with more options ; XRP is a hit how a days due to its low fee ; take care of the fee payment since now due to increasing price of Bitcoins the withdrawal fee is sky rocking and people are unwilling. Maybe you can provide them with a more sustainable and stable option ?

This would not only attract more customers but at the same time it would be a positive point for your site.

You probably didn't submitted your website full information like web Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube account address. By the way you purchase a great domain name. If you tell us is it premium domain or normal domain, purchased price? Hope your business success soon. And a good advice for u is add valuable payment methods like Eth, Xrp, Xlm, Bnb, Doge etc.

Thanks, we look forward to seeing you once live safari88!


Hi carriebee, currently we do not have any form of social media account(s). That's a great idea however, thank you for your suggestion. :)


Hi fiulpro, thanks for the questions.

It would operate alike regular Crash itself in terms of the base game itself. We believe Bitseno will bring a fresh, new approach to Crash due to various reasons, however. As of now, we plan to keep new features and implementations quiet while still in the development stage. What I can mention, is that there is a small handful of unique features/implementations which will be beneficial for the end user. In terms of will it be safe, yes. Bitseno will be SSL secured, as well as 2FA being a suggested and pushed for option which is already implemented and working. It runs on the provably fair system, so yes, it is. You will be able to check each game's hash whenever you wish to ensure your game was generated fairly.

Hopefully this answered your questions. :D


Hi cryptopediabd, in terms of social accounts we are only on BitcoinTalk. Perhaps some day soon we may extend our online presence elsewhere, but for now we are happy as is. Thanks for the great suggestion! 8)

Hi Bitseno, I noticed that you still have no copper membership to post images. You may want to acquire one to improve your ANN thread and entice some players.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote

Also, got your explanation regarding gambling license thing. Sometimes it is the first thing that people look into. But anyway, if you don't need gambling license, I assume you are registered company in New Zealand?

The copper membership will be purchased closer to the time of launch. :)

As for company registration, currently we are not, however once the site is completely functional, we will register a corresponding parent private LTD.

Thanks for the advice and question(s). 8)

So everyone who are interested needs to wait for your actions, taking things to consider all those recommendations are good gestures
to acquired gamblers and participants.
Let's see if how you will going to push this business and what would be the unique offers that will attract more players to visit your site.