Bitcoin Forum

Next month would make it my 15 solid years in betting world. I have experienced a lot of bitterness to the extent of committing suicide due to huge amount I have lost to it.
But thank God today, I can say I have realised X30 of what I have lost at my initial stage of betting and that is why I have come to share my TOP FIVE SECRETS OF BETTING.
#1. Perceive Betting to be a business and not a freestyling arena: It is funny to me when I see someone accumulating more than 10 games and staking #100 to earn big, I see this person to be freestyling. For a business minded person, you consider your capital first before the profit, what this means is that your capital is the most important, is better not to make profit than to lose your capital.
Heavy stakers like me need to apply this business principle when it comes to betting as a slogan of a popular betting company in Nigeria says ' Put Your Money Where Your Mouth is'.
#2. Avoid Anxiousness in recovering your lost fund: This is where most gamblers get it wrongly, never be too anxious to recover your lost fund, in betting world, Anxiousness doesn't always bring good result but rather brings more loss. For example, someone that just lost about 50k on a bet, ordinarily such person will be too anxious to recover his money back and if care is not taken, such person will record more loss, (GR)gradual recovering of lost fund is applied instead of (IR)immediate recovering, considering the example above, such person is advised to recover his lost 50k gradually. There was a time it took me a month to recover my lost 100k
#3. Gambling requires discipline: Yes, gambling requires discipline . As a gambler, you don't need to stake every hour or every day. You could set a weekly profit target for yourself and once you hit the target, you wait for the coming week, you don't need to be greedy because gambling doesn't favour the greedy ones and you also need to do your proper findings before going to market, your findings could take you days, so as to reduce the risk
#4. Design your betting style and stick to it: To Excel in any field, style and skills are required, likewise in betting world.
Putting my own betting style into consideration, I only stake on over 1.5 and I don't accumulate more than two games, the total odds could 1.6 or better still 1.75 and I stake heavily starting from 20k, I have stuck to this style and is paying. Anyway, I am not a fan of 1X2 betting and huge accumulation but if that is what you do and is yielding, you can stick to it.
#5. Only stake on sport you have adequate knowledge of and never add emotions to it: This is very important, I have a friend, from his inception in the betting world, he has always staked on Cricket because that is where his strength lies. Select a sport you have adequate knowledge about, it could be football, handball, tennis, basketball, etc.
Note: Gambling is never for emotional weak people and never bet any amount u can't let go. Bet responsibly.

I read you are experienced in gambling and been there for 15 years (nearly). Can you also tell us your statistics like your netto overall profit/loss? (an estimation then of course).
Sad to hear about the suicide situation. There are more things in life than to think about money. Life and health are more important.

It's not personal, but how can someone who writes something like this post a topic with the 5 secrets if you haven't been successful yourself? It should then be more of a warning not to use it. Gambling addiction can be very annoying. You are not the first and last person to develop suicidal tendencies and / or depression because of this addiction. Fortunately, there is something to be done about every addiction.
What is the purpose of this post? Warn others or find a strategy?

ya.ya.yo!

Read the last sentence bro, that is the most important aspect of the write up.

15 years is actually very long. guess he had lost a lot of money from all those years. and if he is successful, i don't think he will be in this forum. just guessing here... because if he is a successful gambler, he wont have time to be here. busy attending important things.
 those points that he wrote has ben told many times already in this board. so nothing extra-ordinary with those 5 secrets.

I don't find anything something extraordinary in your tips despite you being working in this field from 15 years.
15 Years and you still don't know you can't prove anything without Win/Loss ratio, ROI and profit you made.
Also, please format the post as no one likes to read a bunch of lines.

You are right sir, but I don't know who you see as a successful person, if he is a person that has his own apartment and send his kids to good school, then I think I am successful.

Thank you OP for your take on gambling tactics. There are some very important points you mention.

My own opinion? If the fun stops, you should stop gambling. Never chase losses, instead try to gamble with less money and have fun doing it. Why else should we gamble? To create money?  ::)

As you write "don't gamble what you can't afford to loose", its the number 1 thing everyone is saying to you when they are talking about gambling rules and it is a very important one.
If you deposit any money, you should know that this ammount will probably be gone from the very beggining.

I love people like you sir, I love people that can share their views, but there is no need for me formatting, if it is not helpful to you, it could be helpful to others.

It is ideal to have the profit/loss spreadsheet because every month I need to know how money I have lost or say made profit so that I know my expenses is not going overboard. This helps at times when you are running shortfall for money and want to keep the balances so managing finances is very important and thus gambling for fun is fine till the time you know money spent on it. Also, long years spent means chances are that if some has become professional then would ideally have made money rather than losing it.

I strongly believe gambling should be perceived as an entertainment. Sure, you can win serious amounts now and again, but every casino has a House Edge advantage.

The house always wins, even when it loses.

All I see here is a motivational speech! You can change the "betting/gambling" word with word "trading, investing, working...or with any of your activities". In the end you can't be a successful cook if you don't:
1. Take your job seriously and have professional approach.
2. Anxiousness is never good!
3. You need to be disciplined in everything.
4. You need to have your own style, something unique if possible that will make you special in everything you do if you wish to leave a mark and become recognized.
5. Don't do anything without researching it first, learning about what is waiting for you, the more you know it will be easier for you to find your own way and style!
And in the end we have "it's not for everyone" part of course. All that can lead you to success, but not necessary, in any way give me more money and I will give you more "secrets" that can help you/or not help you in achieving your goals.

There's no secret that some people have to work hard to achieve something! Some people will have to give an extra mile to get to the same point where some people start! If you wish to be successful in anything, literally anything you need to be dedicated, you need focus, a lot of work on your skills, your mind skills, your everything! And like in every beginning it will be hard, in some points it will seem like a waste of time and energy. You will think about quitting when pressure become unbearable. Every road to top have good and bad days, surviving them all means you know how to deal with both. It's hard to believe and endure when it's hard, but believe it's hard to stay cool and focused when you are on top!

And now about betting on sports, you can be successful if you like to watch the games you bet on and if you have bankroll management skills. First means you have some knowledge about the teams/players, second means you know how to deal with money and that you will place bets according to your bankroll, you can't bet all in every time and believe that you will be positive every time, you need to count on losses and how to
recover them. Good luck people!

A motivational speech, indeed. Sometimes we have to learn the way in order to see things more clearly. As for OP, 15 years was enough to realize the insights gained from these life experiences. I agree that there is no secret, shortcuts or specific strategy to be successful in gambling and in life in general. As we have different paths, and different destinations.

Most of the things listed by OP is not entirely a secret. It's a basic understanding of what you should do "in ideal situations," and most of the time, people are not doing that. I think discipline should be the first one to master.

This is not just applicable to the betting world. It could also be in trading. Imagine using it as a trading principle in your daily trading life

• Portfolio is your Business - Better see green all the time and taking care of your capital
• Getting rekt is not the end of the world, do better in your trading strategy
• Be disciplined with your trades - even better with a Trading Bot
• Have knowledge on trading and stick to it

The second point which talks about the anxiousness of bettors to recover lost funds is the key as to why many bettors keep loosing bets. Especially in the virtual bet category. It is also the very point that induces addiction.
In trying to recover lost funds, most bettors tend to increase stakes and odds to make the maximum but in turn, the reverse always seem to be the case as the risk was carelessly calculated only base on what is hoped to gain not examining the possibility of lose.
It makes most bettors forget the fact that, tomorrow is another day and with it comes also opportunity of winning as much as losing as well. Never be too hasty to recover and lose. Take it bit by bit.

I like your number #2 as most of the gamblers are really frustrated to recover their lost money in gambling, this also happened to me
and I see that most of the time I keep on losing only so it will be good if we will not be too anxious in recovering our lost money or capital.

Discipline is the most difficult part also while we are already gambling, I always keep it in mind that I need to discipline myself while gambling
but what happened is the opposite especially if I keep on losing. But for those who can do it, I am pretty sure that they will likely to lost a small
amount of money only while winning a huge one.

"Have fun" doing what you love.
"Be Happy" in what by condition of life you should do as compensation to pay the bills.

There is a bad habit to blame the "areas" in which we decided to participate, whether as I said for fun or in which we perform for formal work, informal jobs, skills, etc.

In reality, the environments are not the culprits, it is the individuals, who do not behave correctly, but fortunately there are more who know how to behave and regardless of whether they are in the emotional zone of fun or sadness.

This is common knowledge. Almost every gambler is aware of this stuff, but the majority screw up anyway while trying to gain huge profits or recover all of their losses and this is how casinos stay in business.

If every gambler gambled responsibly, the casinos would probably go out of business. They survive thanks to our addiction which is difficult to control.

It's admirable how you bounced back op and I can see the point of your message, but you shouldn't have thought about suicide no matter how dire the situation was.

lol I have shared the same "secrets" some times ago here on forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1234109.0
I appreciate a lot when I see people that bet like "trading" and not "hope" or "Pray" for a result.

your first rule was my 10th. this is because I play 99,99% of the times just single match/ event.
I make a short resume with this motto " Play ONLY when you are sure to win!"
your second / third rule could be considered the same (6th rule)4th and 5th rule I think have the same meaning as your first rule. PLAY confident. E.G. I don't know anything about cricket it's just a waste of time for me playing there...

It's not really a secret, the topic title should be change into the "Five Must Follow in Gambling or Betting World, that we Didn't Do", we all know the basics yet once we are playing and doin gambling we tend to forgot all the rules, plans we set in mind and just keep on playing based on what the casino is giving in terms of card or in sports without really thinking how to win or when to stop, we tend to just rely on luck than to think we'll or got pressured thinking how to win that sometimes attracts losing once we already start playing.

Good thing that you do able to pull it through unlike to those people who havent able to control nor calmed themselves and do end up on suicide. 15 solid years is a non joke timeframe for you to engage on gambling.
Those qualities that you mentioned then its true but its really hard to imply on ones gambling if you havent experienced enough such hardships in life.Its not really needed for you to experience first but people do become serious on things when they had already tasted out the actual hard situation.You wont really be that serious if you havent still on that situation but as i said earlier that its not needed for you to experience for you to avoid.
1.5-1.7 odds? Its common for someone to stick on to those numbers the difference here is the amount that had been staked.Losing 20k for a single bet will surely make me crazy.lol

Depends, there are successful people that still visit or check the forum once in a while like the casino owners.  It's not that hard to bring out your phone and browse the forum for a few minutes.


It's not needed where you have to lose on purpose but at one point gamblers will experience these mistakes anyway.

In the end these experiences becomes a factor since our bet sizes could easily get out of hand with a few losses and the unforgettable experience we have turns into a reminder where we should follow these set of rules.

The tips that you have discussed in your post are not new, everyone here knows about them in some way or the other. But how many of them follow is questionable? I am not a pro in gambling but I do understand one thing which is discipline. You can only control your losses through discipline, most of us know it but lack it.

You probably have to move it in the gambling discussion board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0).

I'll be glad to share my opinion once move there.

All those top five methods that you have stated are not any "secret" like you think. Those are just common sense and nothing more. There are also some wrong advises that you have given. You shouldn't even think of recovering your funds. There is no such thing as "gradual recovery". Once you have lost your funds, let it go away. There is no good in thinking about recovering those funds anymore. Start fresh if you still would like to stick to gambling.
And it is easy for you to say not be hurt emotionally when you lose a bet. Trust me it doesn't work this way.

Yeah,,, nothing secret at all. The last time I got told a "secret" was by a friend who told me if gambling and you're feeling anxious like usually do when you are losing, just close your eyes and pinch the flesh between your thumb and middle finger for a few seconds as painfully as you can. Guess what? Nonsense for me it did not work lol.

Discipline is all my friends and depositing money you MUST KNOW to lose.

That might not work for you but for others that is effective. Psychological tricks might be helpful too in gambling especially when we got anxious, we tend to make silly decisions, thus psychological tricks will help to trick the brain. Sometimes when I feel weird of anxious, I just eat a gum, I knew it since high school that while eating your brain is at rest mode and does not sense any danger so chewing a gum is tricking your brain that every thing is alright though you already lost a lot  ;D

Discipline is always the key, but greed sometimes is helping, better to be consistent at all times.

These are just the common rules obviously, not secrets. But glad someone brought this to public. Been in this game for 10 years, ups and downs are normal. Remember all the winning days u have had while losing few in a row. Dont celebrate when u win and dont pay any emotions when u lose.
Bet like a robot. (only when u have a proving winning system tho) this advice is not for hobby bettors. Extreme discipline and bankroll management

This is very true. I have so many losing bets because someone close to me or a friend is telling me that this or that bet is worth making. In the same way that I also listened a number of times from sports analysts and made my bets based on their predictions. I also bet on certain occasions simply because my peers are for that particular team, especially in the NBA.

But all those are for fun only, nothing emotional. That's perhaps the reason why I am not making money through betting. My bets are always small bets, amounts which I can easily let go off for the sake of fun.

Congratulations on your time in the gambling.
With your experience, I am sure that you have so many things that you can share with us, especially if that can help us have good gambling control.

But from that list, I guess that gambling requires discipline, and it's above on the other list because if you can not discipline yourself, you will screw yourself, and your money will be lost in a short time. For me, the other list will follow after the discipline, so no matter you play every day, you can control yourself from the lost, and you can still enjoy the gambling games.

   I agree with OP, anyone who wish to be successful in sports betting should follow this 5 steps. You can't be successful if you don't
follow basic rules, OP shared a nice story about his betting experience, and we should try to follow his steps.
   I'm older and I have control over my actions in gambling. I know how much money I have and I know my goals, but young people
who wish to start betting more professionally should read and learn something from this topic.

but his example is different . a friend on his example is expert on his certain sport choice and he didnt said that his friend recomend him to bet on this or that but on your case your friend might not be expert but your mistake is that you still follow thier advice so you fail but dont blame them yet . what if they got lucky and you win ? being good doesnt also mean that thier advice will win . @op thanks for the time of making post but you should allow spacing for easy reading

It amazes me because of how strong your emotional and mental state because you've been doing it for 15 years which is a long year, and on how you manage to conquer your struggles and problems that you faced with gambling. That's why gambling is indeed not of emotionally weak people.

I like your advice op, especially on how you should perceive gambling as a business. I don't gamble too often and I can't afford to lose a big amount of money just like what you've experienced so I don't really have this big realization as yours. But since you've shared it, I think I learned some advice, and thanks for sharing this.

I think this rules shouldnt be applied to sport betting alone, it's a rule that should apply in every business one does, whether one is into business of buying and selling, trading forex, crypto, binary options and so on.
So I will rather call this a general rule which should be followed no matter what denomination or line of business one is into.

In OPs example was a person who only bet on cricket and all because he knows the game, the guy probably followed some players because he is a fan and that he trusted that if the team he knew plays he will bet to it and will likely win.

In the context I guess it means only bet to sports you knew well and that you can analyze which team and who will win than just rely solely on luck.

Obviously there is no secrets in your summary other than generic precautions and that is what we can do mostly with gambling since our luck decides whether we need to win or lose.Glad to see that you came back after a crucial life point but this is not advisable and not should be take as motivational story as well because lot others maybe try to follow the same with the most intense kind of risky betting and even they could fail unlike you.

Take note that people have different ways on how they will make their gambling journey be successful.

You can't just easily say to anyone, "Hey follow OP's advice to become a success" because after all, we don't have the same approach.

And besides, no matter how you give a gambler good and perfect advice, without them not dealing with the actual gambling experience, they won't understand that advice. So for me, let them learn what are those things they need to do out of their own experience in order to become successful in this industry.

This is definitely true, not all strategy that we see successful to others would work for us, the way we implement it is very important and we need more experience to perfect it and besides in gambling there is no fix strategy as we know the gambling house will always adjust when they are losing so that means we also have to adjust. I know only gamblers will experience will know this, some will say gambling is easy but that's just an expectation which is different from reality.

Thank you for sharing the secrets of being able to make big profits in the world of gambling, even though the top 5 secrets that you
mentioned I already know from various articles on the internet. So for me it's no secret again, but I appreciate you creating this topic,
it serves as a reminder for me. Even though you rank a newbie in this forum, but your 15 years experience in the betting world, proves
you are an experienced gambler. I hope experienced gamblers like you can share technical strategies in other topics, so that I can learn
a lot from you.

unfortunately a betting system like this is not suitable if used for trading because it will only make the image of the exchange bad and eventually many people are disappointed and eventually make many people say the badness of cryptocurrency, so let betting only exist in sports gambling and casinos, the rest remains using traditional trading.

Experience will teach us lessons in life not only in gambling. But with 15 years of being a gambler, definitely he has so much experience to offer, in winning or losing. Though his secrets are not really new, and most of us already know those things, I guess those will also be good insights for new gamblers.

15yrs of experience is alot he can be older now and he started gambling when he was still a kid but for us that are still young we have lesser experience that him . now i know why there are users agree to disagree about some of his advices  . we need more experience in gambling so that some of the advice can be more applicable to us .

@natalim , thats what i feel too when i cant win often the way i did before . i feel that the site adjusted because they can be loosing too but they dont announce it .

Not many people can stay at the gambling business for 15 years, and he is one of them who can survive in the hardest life in gambling. His experience helps him survive, but I think that people need to know when they are playing gambling. If people can use it for their own purpose, I think they can survive in gambling too. But still, controlling himself will be necessary.

I thought OP will actually share his methodologies, tactics or form of betting but it turns out to be a piece of tips in gambling.

Definitely OP's tip will be useful and could somehow earn but mind you that OP is not showing statistics in his winning. I must tell that OP probably lose too but not that much for he is able to recover it or have some discipline in gambling as he stated it in posts above. I know that gambling are design for casino to win and that the players will compete or casino between players the usual winner is the casino. If not casino will going to always lose then they willbe losing too their investment.

This is not secrets anymore (kidding)

These might be effective and easier for you to do but these tips that you have mentioned will never be effective to most of the gamblers since we have different approach when it comes to playing. Others for sure might be able to do those 5 things you've mentioned but in no time, I'm sure they'll start to panic and be indecisive when it comes to gambling.

For me, being successful in gambling is the most hardest profession to get.

I think all the tips you have provided are useful and applicable. I am sure there are many gambler who have financial problem and have had a severe change of mindset and are even desperate to end their lives simply because they cant afford to pay their debt.

An important point that is very difficult for gambler, including myself, is self control. This point is only easy to pronounce but very difficult to implement. There are many gambler who have high hopes for every bet they play. Chasing the jackpot and winning is the way most people do it even me but I admit that this is wrong. Nonetheless, I have done little by little to manage the spending of money which is allocated to gambling and not to play every day.

It will require too much time for gamblers or other to make gambling as profession but believe it or not there were really people who considers doing gambling to make a living. It might really be stressful to do that as those 5 bettings methods mentioned by OP is already forgotten by many the moment they start playing.

It might be common knowledge to some from many mistakes yet it can take a life time to learn somehow.   Personally I find underlining mistakes probably a useful guide, reminder to help in avoiding the repetition.

Never chase a loss, nothing is owed.   I find sometimes its best to return the next day instead of believing a win will follow a bigger loss, somehow I find a loss more likely after a loss though that should be not especially true either.

Besides that, not many people can use gambling as a profession because we already saw that many people failed to win in gambling.
Rather than trying to make money from gambling, it is better if we search from other sources which will be promising because, in gambling itself, we need to use the money before we can win the money.
But even if you already use the money, that doesn't guarantee you to get the winning.
I think it's not just stressful, but it's also frustrating to see the method is hard to work for us because every people might use different ways to win.

Well said. Taking gambling as a profession is very unstable in nature. Although some really do get good with it, and win, but there will be days that will encounter a big loss. It is indeed stressful and frustrating that some players sometimes do unethical means just to have the chance to play again. Then there comes addiction.

This is a good way to advise stakes. You don't try to get back your money lost in gambling same day and same spot. If you notice is not a winning day, you need to move on to another day. Trying to go back for recovery can make you lose all you have because you may have lost reasoning, analysis and observation of little signals that can help you do a good winning analysis.
This is also relating to lost trades, you can take a break and come back in later.

Both gradual way and instantly betting big amount can result to more loss too.  The gradual option to get back the $50k will require an effective strategy which obviosuly if he lose $50k in the first place means he doesn't have that strategy. He did keep that secret but losing an amount that big only reveals a more daring secret like not plans even just a simple martingale.

#2. Avoid Anxiousness in recovering your lost fund:
#5. Only stake on sport you have adequate knowledge of and never add emotions to it

These two things should people do think off when they do gamble.Its not a secret but just a common advise that should really be followed strictly on oneself.Dont expect on making yourself big on betting world
yet the primary motive or reason on why we do engage on it just because we do seek out for entertainment.Never tend to chase losses yet this would just result into further loss.
There are no secrets on making yourself out of troubles with gambling if you are just sensible and aware into your own actions.

These are not secrets those old in this business already knows this, this is secret for newbies so you should add the word newbies in your title
many of us here especially old members can relate to this, if you are not emotional anymore in your gambling activities and you are ok with the amount of money you've lost then you can say that you safely matured and you are in a safe side.

It may be common knowledge but it's also a good reminder for those new in gambling and want to go "big" (though there are other tips here already posted as well).

In my opinion, there can be lots of advices when it comes to gambling but I think not every single one of it can be applied. I mean, people still sometimes lose their sense of control especially when they're hyped up with the situation. But we appreciate this "secret" of yours.

Anyway, glad that you didn't continue with that suicide. Even if life is hitting us so hard, taking our own life should never be an option. There's always rainbow after the rain, you know. Just stay strong.

Those are going to gamble for the first time should take this quotes seriously and take them by heart because they will find out later that these quotes are all true, this made me think that these quotes are coming from veteran gamblers, who from their experiences write these quotable quotes for gamblers as a way of advising them.

For me, the 5 points mentioned in the opening post are indeed able to make us make big profits. But the 5 points mentioned are not a secret,
because many gamblers know it. All points mentioned in the opening post are general rules that must be followed if we want to succeed in
betting world. Maybe for me this is just a reminder, but it's not easy to carry out these 5 points. It takes a strong intention to run it.

Not a secret at all, this is a principle of gambling that we should always remember and yes a good reminders for a newbie before falling into a trap of gambling.

To become more successful you must have the right knowledge on what you’re doing, you can make your own ways just believe on it and don’t let your emotions controls everything. Gambling is a game of luck, if you don’t have spare money don’t try gambling, it can make you drowning in debt.

Money makes it forgettable those rules or an individual greed that makes them forget about it. Everybody know this and I think everyone at point of time might have decided to reduce or to control themself once they win certain amount will stop it. But some of them will continue and longer they play better for the casinos and gambling sites.

It's nothing weird tbh, most of the time only those who actually fell at the bottom could actually know how to reach the top. Though they often take the hard way, especially since they actually went the opposite of what they should do, hence the event of them being depressed/suicidal etc. For anyone that actually takes gambling as something outside of entertainment, better pay attention and take it as something similar to investing, or business minded as OP said. Though in this case, your confidence levels just come from past records, unlike investments, where there's a sort of solid evidence backed up by current events, but nonetheless, they only change confidence levels, not the actual ratio of win/loss which is always at 50:50

You are very right sir

I think all the gambling sites should list these rules on their site so that gamblers keep on viewing them and should be careful while gambling. On some gambling site i do see a link of Responsible gambling but it should be more prominent in the form of a popup message.

Do you believe that they would really be serious on that manner on telling people to be careful on dealing with gambling and some sort of advises and warnings?
No the wont because they would love for their players to be addicted and spend out all of their money since this is a business then its no brainer that they will be much preferred
into the situation where everyone is on addiction mode since its a beneficial situation for them.There might be some gambling sites that do have some sort of
links given on the site neither a counseling service or a forum for gambler talks but making out some pop-ups just for that? It wont be likely to happen or
to be considered.

Even if the list of the rules available on their site, the gambler will not check on that because they just want to play the games and win. But they will check the rules when they have a problem, and they will complain to the site, even if they are wrong. The rules need to be read by gamblers before they are seriously playing gambling on each gambling site, so they can know what they can do and what they can not do on that site.

This is really some great advice.I have been lately following to land a jackpot on slots which is the same as getting right a multi with 10000-15000 odd in sport betting.I strongly agree that capital should come first and foremost and that the anxiety to recover lost funds always brings bad results.The other 3 advices are common sense to most gamblers but these first 2 made a huge impact on me.

It's not easy to make it big in betting world, it takes knowledge and experience to do it. From the tips mentioned in the opening post,
it is very good to follow. Although there is no guarantee that we can make a large profit, if we do all these tips. Because after all,
luck always plays an important role when playing gambling.

 
I wouldn't call them secrets but rules and the most important one is #3-Discipline because without it you definitely don't go to far. Your stake/bet should be max 5% from your bankroll, adjust your stake when your bankroll reach half  or double and your motto should be >bet less win more<.

Discipline will help a gambler control himself in gambling, and the next thing is managing his money to be used to playing gambling.
But we can not bet less to win more because that will be difficult to get if you don't have skills, knowledge, luck, and experience.
We should not break the discipline and limit the money that we already arrange because if we do that, I am afraid that we will lose the money.
Besides that, if we win the games, we must stop for a while to reduce the tension we got after winning.
Please don't wait until your greed becomes bigger or you will regret it in the end.

This just proves that a lot of people might have these ideas of getting big or winning against the house but they will never get out or escape the reality that what they are dealing with is still gambling. There is no 100% chance that you will win, you are still risking your money, time, and yourself to something that might destroy your life, your relationship and your future.

You never mention your strategies, and even if having discipline its still not enough when you're always losing. Most of the mention methods here, i've already done it. But after betting a lot it will still take back the amount that you've win, because there's a cycle in winstreak and a lose streak. In the end it will end up in a stalemate, without you gaining anything and back to square one of your funds. The only choice we have is bet big and win big, its a high risk method but atleast your funds will not be stagnant.

It is Ok to lose everytime you gamble as long as the money involved is the amount to risk each time meaning you are for enjoying and not to win totally.

but if you are losing all of your money each time.without any good action then that is a  mistake.

allotting money before playing is one safe way to not become a big loser and to have self control.

Just like what we see in the cigarette case, where it says "government warning etc." Yes! it could work for some people who will totally forgot their reasoning after losing straight from a bad bet. But those signs are useless when they are already became addicted on gambling. because we have seen how people act when they already drowned to some kind of bad habit which make them lose their interest to some advise from other people. such as this one:

https://lifelineconnections.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Gambling-Addiction.png

I agree with you, discipline is the key to be decent gambler. We all need discipline to manage our expectations when gamble. After losing  or winning in a row for a while it's hard to withstand the idea of seeing patterns. We also need discipline to manage our emotions. With our a good discipline we are likely to lose all the winnings we make in a day again, just because we can't stop. Another important factor in my opinion is luck which we can't control.

That is very important in gambling and we are playing in our comfort zone, using our own strategy, mastered it, and if it works great? I believe I shouldn't have anything to change unless if we make another experiment or not being contented with it.

This is the reality. You can't even win in gambling if you are not ready to lose. Weak minds, weak hands, there is nothing you can make good decisions but all of the negatives.

I like your writing, the conclusion is "don't get too carried away in gambling".  danger to those who think gambling is a job, all they get is a loss.  you are right, gambling with the capacity you have (the sport you like) because it is certain that you have broad insight into the sport.  let's gamble without curiosity, be greedy and let go of all losses..

True, we should not get carried as our emotion is our weakness and that would make us lose money in the end.
However, I would disagree that all they get is loss to people who treat gambling as a job, no... there are people who are smart and they are professional gambler, it's their passion, they understand the risk or danger but they know what they are doing and they could be successful.

Greediness is what made you lose a lot of money, that's your emotion that are dictating yourself, it's not the strategy anymore that your mind has created.
It's not smart and responsible gambling, be aware with that.

#4. A lot of gamblers also got it wrong here by accumulating many odds thus putting such a bet in a high risk accumulating 10 games with the aim of

having 20 odds and thinking of winning big is quite ridiculous and unrealistic and resulted to losses in most cases.

#5 It is very important to have vast knowledge in that particular sport personally I am knowledgeable in soccer bets that is my area of specialization

especially in EPL teams, I studied teams that are very strong and weaker ones, goal scoring teams thus giving me the opportunity to place my bet.

Above all its also advisable to bet with the amount of money you can afford to lose as rightly mentioned the OP gambling is for the strong minded.

Gambling is really a risky way of earning money, in my experience of betting I also lost huge amount of money but even though it always happen it doenst make me stop it because of thinking that I could recover the money that I have lost, well this is my mindset before when I am really addicted in gambling. I always focused on gambling and I did not even do some other priority, like spending time with my friends and family becaus I only want to play and it makes me so entertained especially when I win the game.

Always remember that good handling of money makes you a good gambler, skills and knowdlege can be useful as well especially in some skill-based gambling but handling is really the useful one. You should also know when to stop and continue to play, when you ar aalready ahead then I think that is the time that you may quit playing and save your money.

Not just carried away but make sure that you are aware of everything before and after playing that will save your asses to not becoming a loser.
many players try to pretend they are hooked but in the end?going home without anything in pocket.
so if we are going to gamble make sure that you have mind set and self control before the game begins .

Agree with some points. When I started gambling I was making mistakes of recovering the money immediately and ended up losing more money. I only play with the spare money I have and I dont mind if I loose it. I learned that more you play the more you loose so I suggest dont gamble for too long you will end up loosing your money. Nice tips OP thank you.

Yes, that is right.
But if you win so many times, you will attract to play once more time because your mind will think that your chance to win in the next round will still be bigger.
I believe that luck will not happen many times, but luck will come in one or two times in gambling.

Just manage the money you will use in gambling, and don't use big money in the bets, and you will be fine.
You need to remember how you can limit your bets, so when you think that your time in gambling is enough, you can stop gambling and leave it.
But that will need to have discipline and control over yourself to stop gambling.

I don't know how people can make money long term in gambling!
House edge is rigged to make you lose in long run and 15 years is a long term actually.

I read all the points OP wrote and I must say he took a lot of pain in those 15 years, Goodluck in gambling OP, and keep sharing gambling wisdom to those who need it.
I'm happy with trading.

If you are well disciplined and you already learn the right pattern to make this activities more favorable for you.
it's possible to make it in the long run as long as you have good strategy that you already
used for the longest time.


It's all depends from how a person practiced everything he learned, though most of the time shit happened and that's
really pain in the ass when you are playing your game, as even you have good strategy there's a still
a chance that you'll lose along the way.

I don't think people can playing gambling for 15 years because if that is true, I can not imagine how much money he spent and how much money he wins. In the gambling games, we need to know about the risk, and no matter how much money you used to gamble, the chance to get lost will be there, and you will be hard to recover the losing money.

there are people like that . take profesional gamblers as a basis , have you try reading thier story? you should check if not and you will see that they also spend much time before they master a talent like that .

with fifteen years of experience op can be a master now and masters aint playing small money so he also loose alot of money on the process .  he have the guts to continue so it means that he didnt mind the money that he burned

I know some people who have been gambling for a long time. Gambling for 15 years is not unrealistic, you will find many examples like this all around you. Gambling for a long time is nothing special, the point here is to see how much you have won and how much you have lost. Those who come to gamble and think of increasing their fund quickly lose their capital, I have seen many people who have lost everything by gambling. Again, many people have made good profits by gambling in the right way and using their talents. So there is nothing impossible here.

Eventually in long term if someone is playing just to make money most likely will be in loss itself. Because in longer times when you continue gambling the losing streaks increases than making profits. There could be exception though and for the ones who gamble occasionally or just to have some sort of entertainment those we can consider that they could be gambling more than a decade. But ones who are always regular and gambling for so long would be less in numbers for sure.

If people can think about doing that thing will be worth it for his life or not, I think he can have objective thinking that not all people can spend almost his entire life to learn to be a pro gambler. It is difficult to learn to be a master in gambling, and we don't know how much money will be used to become a master. Fifteen years is not a short time, and I am sure that there will be a hard time for that person to continue learning to gamble.

I agree that there is nothing impossible to do that, but many people are trying to be a master in gambling, but they can not succeed in being what they want. Many of them become crazy and obsess to be a master without thinking about what they should do with right. I only know some people who gamble for a long time, but they stop before ten years they gamble. Mostly, their reason to stop gambling is that they feel saturated with what they did. They just learn and learn while they don't even think about their family. In this case, the mistake comes from them because they are only learning without doing anything. But we can not judge them to manage their focus to learn to gamble because we are not in their position.

Most people who gamble will lose their money in the long term, but some people can make money from gambling. That people can win many times on gambling games, and people will see that is the example of people who can use gambling with the right. Maybe other people will learn from them, especially learning about how they can do that, and how they can deal with the risk and losing the money. The exception will come to people who can control themselves in gambling, while the other will not get that exception.

Yes that's right. When a person becomes overly attracted to gambling, he becomes detached from everything, even from his family. Taking gambling as entertainment is a good option. More than that, gambling can have a bad effect later on.

I have seen many gamblers become so addicted to gambling that they lose all their wealth by gambling. So trying to master yourself in gambling can often bring big danger.

as you already mentioned, not only the riches they will lose but also their family/loved ones. because a gambling addict will forget all about it as long as he is deep in gambling. those 5 secrets are not really secret. but on my end, how you handle yourself in gambling is important rather than your strategies in gambling.
 what are you going to choose - your family or your gambling? now up to you where will you end up with...

With 15 years of experienced behind you, you have the right to write these secrets, it's hard to keep up gambling for 15 years with 30 times profit, I have no journal of my winning and my losses because I don't want to be disappointed because I just knew I have a lot of losses compared to my winnings, and I believe only few gamblers can managed to keep up with journal of their winnings and losses, you have to be very discipline to do that.

We know our conditions better because if we force ourselves to become master in gambling, we don't have any chance except we will lose the money which we can use it for other things. If we realize that we can not become a master, we will not chase or learn to gamble because our mindset will change to enjoy gambling. We will consider that gambling is part of the entertainment, and we should enjoy and have fun in gambling.

We should know how we handle ourselves in gambling before we lost everything. Once we lose the money, we will hard to recover, and if that money is for our family, how we can get that money to live. That will be our choice to still playing gambling or leaving gambling, and we must know what is best for us.

indeed, when gambling, no one can guarantee a win, but by gambling continuously, you will have experience and potential that might be used to make you win at the gambling place, with an important note that you must record all your failures properly so that it is will help you to gain victory. at least never give up and stay calm when gambling whatever the game.

Now it is not a secret anymore, just kiddin' lol.

Well, great objectives, man. I'd say, they're all plausible. Number 1 is kinda odd thing to do, and am pretty sure that, not everyone can grasp such activity the same way you do  :-\. You know... it is just that gettin' profit first became the priority here by the majority, or I'd better say it became a norm. Well number 2, seems a difficult job though, I mean this requires huge confidence, and understanding. But yeah, if those person who usually gamble or bet huge amount money manage to get a hold of this idea, they'll be able to avoid unnecessary spending. Well number 3 to 5 is already a given factor, better be reminded with these stuff before engaging in this venture.

This is why many gamblers losses too much because of chasing their losses and ending losing more.
Good that you have realized this earlier.
Exact word mate,in gambling this is what we need to understand since this is not a game to win always instead the other way around is what we got.

Those five secrets that the OP have shared on how to make you bets to grow big into the betting world based on his 15 years of experience doing the stuff seems to be not a secret anymore for some are already commonly being done by most gamblers on how they manage their funds to be able to make profitable outcome. This just shows that there is definite principle that is possible to make betting profitable like being responsible and disciplined type of gambler to still know your limit so that you won't loose your capital on betting for you are intended to win and not to have a lose streak that can result to debt which enters the principle of not chasing into your loses for it might creat worst scenarios to come. If you will read the secrets shared by the OP,  we may realize that those were the things we already know and the reason why most gamblers still do fail is they because fail to execute such principles properly.

I think OP focuses more on betting rather than gambling. In gambling you normally play only against the casino and the casino has an edge over in their games to make money. A casino can't function long term if its not making money. But with betting you play against a lot of people all around the world. The odds and quotes at a bookmaker depend on overall demand for the teaming and its chances to win. A lot of people will bet on their home team on big tournaments and don't focus so much on the actually chances of winning. With good research you can make money long term with betting where as in gambling is just a lot luck involved.

What I like the most is your first tip. Cap is the main thing. Too many people overlook this in the pursuit of profit. It depends on the capital whether you can earn any profit at all. No capital, no profit.
Therefore, the first thing to think about is how to save capital in relation to the risks that will arise during betting.
Well, of course, you need to decide what the rates are for you. If it's just fun, have fun and don't take it seriously. If this is a business, learn to control and do not be distracted by fleeting entertainment.

People who got into addiction are those who are greedy ones. Greediness drives them to loose ends. It actually there is no problem having into gambling if it won't comprise in our financial capabilities. Some people lend money from his friends just for this, a thing that we shouldn't have to do or even a usual thing to do because this is the start of committing huge debts in the future.

Just yesterday, fortunately I won on slots and roullete (the anusual winning that I get from gambling).
But unfortunately, I've been eaten by some greed on me to bet higher, and that's when my wins were cut down slowly but surely.
I've been playing for a almost half of the day, before, my plan is to walk away already if I already got my winning amount goal.
But I haven't, I continue betting and at the end of the day, I lost almost 90% of my winnings that day.  
Sometimes it's hard to decide what to do, I should set more outlines for myself for this I guess.

it is impossible for a gambler to gamble without capital because you cant make a single bet if you don't have money.
and also it depend on your gambling time,if you play long the more chances of losing also.
ohh i get what you mean here,is that once you won then the capital will be saved in pocket ?and what if the money outside loss again?then the pocket money will be into betting again?
better have Self Control and that will save your asses.

That is an old way of looking at addiction my friend,,, you have to understand that even modern medicine now sees addiction as a psychological and mental thing. Some people have genes that make them prone to addiction, and I can see that yes, maybe natural human greed brought them in, but those who face addiction in gambling are usually chasing losses, or trying to feed the euphoria that does not last. It is not about greed anymore in many cases.

What you have experienced, I have experienced it several times. It is quite difficult to control the greed in us. Sometimes I also find it
difficult to stop it, therefore we must be able to discipline to ourselves. If you are already profitable in gambling, you must immediately
walk away with the victory that we have obtained. Don't ever try to play again, then without us knowing it, we will lose all the profits
we have made and even the capital we are using will runs out. Always remember, we as gamblers will never win against the houses in
the long run.

It is obvious. If you have no money you cannot play. I am talking about the fact that you should consider your capital in the long term.
It's like it's gasoline in your tank, and if you spend too much, you simply won't make it to your destination.


Not certainly in that way. I am talking about the fact that you should calculate your capital in relation to the risks. As with the gasoline example above.
You should not think about how to double your capital in a short time, but how to increase it in the long term with minimal losses. Any loss will slow you down.

Yes OP you have good style to betting. This information is actually helpful to all gamblers especially to those get addicted to gambling. Gambling platform are business so when one gambles it should also be consider as business that for now you may lose or if one will lose then one will not consider to recover it anymore. A gambler must deal gambling like business and loss is a loss and should never get attached to the losses being happen instead focus on the things that could gain you more and that is by sticking to a game which you a gambler may good at.

It seems like you already have many experiences in the betting world because of giving good advice. This is really true we should mind first our capital before making a profit because if you lose your capital then you won't have money to gamble anymore. Whenever you are gambling and then you already win a lot you should know that it is time to stop because there are still a big chance that you may lose that profit and back to zero again. Always have a good handling of money to be successful in gambling. You metioned all the good ways to be successful in the betting world, thanks for that.

That's no secret in my opinion, but the first is easy said than done, because not many of gamblers has huge bankrolls most of them even loan just to take back what they've lose. The second, is really illogical, because gamblers either bet to earn. So inevitably they'll want to recover their lose funds in order to make profit and not just stalemate. Meaning losing nothing but also gain nothing.

If you  don't act wisely  then  your statement will continue  to be  true,  but you  should learned  along the way.  There  are opportunities  to  bank decent  amounts of winning make sure  not  to be  greedy in order  to  make a good money out from this  activity.

There are times that you'll suffer  from losing but  if you good control you can lessen  the loses and comeback  the next try and recover  or win  more if luck  permits you.

this is the hardest part for me.
when you lose, you will be psychologically down.
you will think about how to recover your loss as soon as possible.
sometimes we (or maybe only me) do all-in from the budget that we have.

Some of the points that I ensure that are always followed are - Do not play just to make money from it else it may not be successful case. Do not borrow for gambling else this is the trap one will create to own self. Enjoy while you are gambling and have fun most important thing and, in the process, if you make money this will make you all excited. Though I may not make that big money but at the end of the day it should not have any negative effects or make me addicted.

People are different in terms of decision making or things that they do had in mind on a particular situation.If they do know that they have lots of money left into their pocket but already had

lost lots of money then the primary thing to be put up in mind is going all in to at least recover the losses as much as fast as possible.I highly believe that everyone wont really have that kind or level
of patience for the to follow that gradual recovering unless if you do have that strong self-control and discipline into yourself that you should really be careful on to your next steps.

Its really easy to say than to be done but there are indeed people who can able to follow up these steps even if it do looks impossible.It all matters with someones awareness and discipline to itself.

Not all wont really be the same into their own way of thinking nor on how they should react on the current situation they are facing on.When it comes to secrets then i dont really consider those things above given
because having just a simple perception towards gambling on where you dont make it as primary money making machine then you'll be doing fine.You can spend up your own
money but at least you are fully aware.

It is important to prioritize correctly and understand well why you are gambling. You must define what exactly you get from it. Either this is your business and then you take it very seriously, or it’s just entertainment and then you treat it as fun, without being too serious. This separation will help you get rid of unnecessary thoughts and get much more pleasure from the games.

I think those that the OP have mentioned are not already secrets for those can be a common sense or analytical thinking of what you supposed to do to gain big in the betting world. (1) Only bet into those games you do practically know for it will gave you an advantage to better analyze and decide into which choices you will bet upon your knowing and understanding of the game will be played. (2) Avoid chasing loses and be disciplined enough not to get driven by your emotions once things are getting unfavorable with you. (3) Regroup your set of thinking on how you supposedly act upon the situation to better have a chance of acquiring wins than loses. Those are indeed common yet essential and really important to be know most specially for new bettors and even for the long time ones because those are sometimes being forgotten because of the game intensity.

Its indeed on common sense yet you would able to think up into those things if you are really aware on what you are doing and as a human, you can eventually have the assumptio or views on what would happen if you do lost up soo much money via too much gambling.You can presume out and made immediate actions if you do saw that it is already gradually affecting your financial state.It isnt a secret but these are basic stuff that you should follow for you to avoid on messing up your own life just because of it not only on financial but also in emotional as well.It doesnt only affect money but also with your loved ones relationship and lots of more.
Just stick out and everything should be in control and dont let gambling control you because if it does then expect on unfortunate things will happen into your life.

The idea of suicide or killing myself has never occur to me no matter how hard life has been I just believe that when a person commits suicide it would just repeat nonstop even when they die so I choose to live instead of killing myself eternally and keep it on repeating.
And I also agree on all of your tips and it is really helpful to follow it all.
And I am also interested in seeing your overall profit/loss for 15 years although it would really be hard to track it all and I think you already move on to some of the worst bet you made maybe you could check them again and just smile thinking how hard it has been because of that bet.

I think I would not consider it as a tips on betting instead a good advises on how one could get away into deep addiction in gambling stating about gambling as a business. Well, it all depend on the individual on his perception regarding gambling. In my own opinion gambling is just for fun and excitement. I can play those games without bet but see the difference when money is at stake for betting. You will going to get more excitement and more fun in it.
This is why I should never consider gambling as a way to earn money. This isn't suitable for those who wishes to get more money from winning big in gambling. Gambling is a business by the casino and they never required to be lucky for them to earn. The house edge is in the casino and this is why even if users are lucky for always winning but in the long run users will going to lose money due to house edge for the casino.

I believe that the biggest and most important aspect of sports betting is the awareness to cash your winnings as soon as you win anything significant because myself I have been carried away by wins and I just keep on betting and my bets size gets bigger with each and ultimately a good night of betting suddenly turns into a terrible one just because I got carried away by wins and thought I might end up winning 1 BTC tonight.

Apart from cashing your profits also make sure when you win any bet you do not bet all the won amount on next bet itself because this is a common practice people use, they win money and then they think like they got the license to loose it all now but remember it was your own money and you are loosing it one a single bet.