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Title: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on September 24, 2020, 08:30:59 AM
i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?

i decided to change the layout style do to fact there could be thousands of nav links and to use wordpress as main cms as it is easier to manage by people
 
My Plan / Idea Diagram :

https://i.ibb.co/5WqRSNW/Screenshot-from-2020-09-29-01-52-14.png


Preview:
https://i.ibb.co/6bYCmcS/Screenshot-from-2020-09-28-22-03-50.png



Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: Lanatsa on September 24, 2020, 10:35:01 PM
First, on the current forum trust rating you have then its a big "NO"
Second, overall concept and design do sucks
Third, what would be the assurance of people who would tend to throw up some bucks?
Fourth, there are lots of better directories already which is more preferable and much better.

Don't expect that someone on this forum will throw even $1 on this one.


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on September 25, 2020, 06:03:17 AM
First, on the current forum trust rating you have then its a big "NO"
Second, overall concept and design do sucks
Third, what would be the assurance of people who would tend to throw up some bucks?
Fourth, there are lots of better directories already which is more preferable and much better.

Don't expect that someone on this forum will throw even $1 on this one.

Don't mind the trust ...negative trust is from war with the Lauda gang scammers ... they tried to extort my account(spy100) for money and make me use their escrow services ...

It's not a design it's a wireframe ...to show the feeling of what i am building ...

I am not looking for 1 usd investments , you must invest like 10k - 1 mil usd  ;) if you believe in the idea

It's not a directory it's like amazon,ebay ,you can  buy direct from platform ...


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i am going to put draconian conditions for shops that will join the mall:

Some rules that i will add:
1.Shop owner / employee will have 10 minutes max to respond to users if they are contacted via video chat / phone
2. Shipping limit 7 days maximum not like on ebay 30 days shipping .... if shop local should be same day shipping
3.Product / Services needs to be high quality ...no Chinese junk products will be allowed...etc...

Will invest a lot in Entertainment ...like you seen in the wireframe
Example:
-girls will be able to show off their clothing similar to tik tok maybe
- If people want to go out on a date they can be matched by a real match maker
- Artists will be able to release songs ,show off their painting and sell them
- Online cinema similar to netflix
- People will be able to ask it experts etc for technical support
- People can join the biz club ...it will not be a forum ... more like yahoo finance
- People will be able to take cooking ,make up etc classes and show off their work
- Online video consultancy done by doctors , finance experts, lawyers etc
- A tv channel will be created similar to the shopping network,a online radio...
- Kids will be able to play online games and developers can get payed for their games etc
- Contests with prizes,online concerts
- You will be able to send flowers ,order food , send gifts, call a taxi ,reserve a private jet , book rooms ,plane tickets ... and many more ...

It's going to be very similar to a real mall...


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: condoras on September 25, 2020, 02:10:12 PM
~snip~

Firstly, it seems that you are confused with what a mall is, and secondly you through ideas that can't be realistic, at least for now.
1- Even if it's a local store, making the same date shipping (with the same date of arrival) it will worth a lot to be sustainable and I'm sure that you can't afford it and back it up to the slightest. I dought that you can do it even for 2 straight orders... :D
2- A lot of well-known brands produce their products in China. By having "high quality" products not manufactured there will cut off more than enough products which are not so crappie and have great sales ratio. Plus that you cant guarantee that since you can't check it. So again, unrealistic.
3- You mention art, music, cinema, special professions, and so many different things and services that you want to have in one place, which is by default utopian. No need to mention how costly this can be and the fact that investing in this bubble will be a sure loss and waste of time.

I suggest to better focus on more simple "ideas" that have realistic/ solid grounds and not to "pink balloon" ideas full with air...


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on September 25, 2020, 02:40:41 PM
~snip~

Firstly, it seems that you are confused with what a mall is, and secondly you through ideas that can't be realistic, at least for now.
1- Even if it's a local store, making the same date shipping (with the same date of arrival) it will worth a lot to be sustainable and I'm sure that you can't afford it and back it up to the slightest. I dought that you can do it even for 2 straight orders... :D
2- A lot of well-known brands produce their products in China. By having "high quality" products not manufactured there will cut off more than enough products which are not so crappie and have great sales ratio. Plus that you cant guarantee that since you can't check it. So again, unrealistic.
3- You mention art, music, cinema, special professions, and so many different things and services that you want to have in one place, which is by default utopian. No need to mention how costly this can be and the fact that investing in this bubble will be a sure loss and waste of time.

I suggest to better focus on more simple "ideas" that have realistic/ solid grounds and not to "pink balloon" ideas full with air...


1. they will use fedex,ups,dhl etc...i will force all shops to use that ,also shops will sort out orders ,we will provide the payment system and online shop .
2. I don't give ... about does brands , they can use amazon , ebay , alibaba for all i care ... i am interested in brands ,companies that respect themselves and their customers ,the mall isn't for third world countries,if your poor stick with alibaba,or if you don't respect the production cost and quality of product stick with alibaba.
3. I know it's costly that's why the project needs investors and shops will pay a fee like they do in real malls ,so we can afford to offer those services/entertainment.


Mall target is rich people and upper middle class.


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: Natsuu on September 25, 2020, 03:02:46 PM
~snip~

Firstly, it seems that you are confused with what a mall is, and secondly you through ideas that can't be realistic, at least for now.
1- Even if it's a local store, making the same date shipping (with the same date of arrival) it will worth a lot to be sustainable and I'm sure that you can't afford it and back it up to the slightest. I dought that you can do it even for 2 straight orders... :D
2- A lot of well-known brands produce their products in China. By having "high quality" products not manufactured there will cut off more than enough products which are not so crappie and have great sales ratio. Plus that you cant guarantee that since you can't check it. So again, unrealistic.
3- You mention art, music, cinema, special professions, and so many different things and services that you want to have in one place, which is by default utopian. No need to mention how costly this can be and the fact that investing in this bubble will be a sure loss and waste of time.

I suggest to better focus on more simple "ideas" that have realistic/ solid grounds and not to "pink balloon" ideas full with air...


1. they will use fedex,ups,dhl etc...i will force all shops to use that ,also shops will sort out orders ,we will provide the payment system and online shop .
2. I don't give ... about does brands , they can use amazon , ebay , alibaba for all i care ... i am interested in brands ,companies that respect themselves and their customers ,the mall isn't for third world countries,if your poor stick with alibaba,or if you don't respect the production cost and quality of product stick with alibaba.
3. I know it's costly that's why the project needs investors and shops will pay a fee like they do in real malls ,so we can afford to offer those services/entertainment.


Mall target is rich people and upper middle class.

This is pretty unrealistic given that your target market are rich and upper middle class customers. If I would pick of something I would buy and given that I'm "rich", I would personally go to mall and check the product personally if I have time, but if I am rich and I am not interested on stepping outside due to the pandemic, I would go to the websites of my favorite "Expensive Shops" given that they already offer the things I need from the shop. I can also just have some of the maids/driver to pick up the products I want. This way I can avoid scams and hassle cause by online shopping malls.

Given the scenario I gave, I would say NO to invest in that kind of online mall, cause what online shops like e-bay, amazon, and alibaba really offer are the low prices, hassle free delivery, and to have the products that are "ESSENTIAL" for someone.


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on September 25, 2020, 04:58:01 PM
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This is pretty unrealistic given that your target market are rich and upper middle class customers. If I would pick of something I would buy and given that I'm "rich", I would personally go to mall and check the product personally if I have time, but if I am rich and I am not interested on stepping outside due to the pandemic, I would go to the websites of my favorite "Expensive Shops" given that they already offer the things I need from the shop. I can also just have some of the maids/driver to pick up the products I want. This way I can avoid scams and hassle cause by online shopping malls.

Given the scenario I gave, I would say NO to invest in that kind of online mall, cause what online shops like e-bay, amazon, and alibaba really offer are the low prices, hassle free delivery, and to have the products that are "ESSENTIAL" for someone.

Even if your rich you can't be in all places at the same time ..and what you buy at "the expensive shops" it's not real high quality ...

Let's take zara ,hugo boss for example they make nice clothing but to expensive ... rich people they can valuate that ...they are not stupid ... what we going to do is bring the tailors ,designers direct to them ...

For example we are going to make online a shop for  Mr. Jean-Paul Gaultier ,your going to schedule a video call and your going to talk direct to him if you want to ...of course if you have the vip card...and if Mr. Gaultier refuses to talk to you and take your order his shop is out of the mall .

Same case for the others: Jimmy Choo, Tom Ford, Donatella Versace, Diane Von Furstenberg, Michael Kors, Victoria Beckham, Valentino Clemente Ludovico Garavani, Calvin Klein, Ralph Lauren, Pierre Cardin,Roberto Cavalli, Marc Jacobs, Betsey Johnson, Sandy Powell, Stefano Gabbana, Miuccia Prada, Tommy Hilfiger, Carolina Herrera....

Let's say you want a kobe beef  burger from a  3 stars Michelin chef ... you order from him and he has 30 minutes to deliver ,no matter on what private  island you are ( he can do it... he just trains another chef from another restaurant close to you...that chef does the burger for you and you have your burger in 30 min ) if not his out of the mall ...

To be part of my mall it does not mean you will have success in biz ... it means that you already have and that you want to be the best.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3vOeCkeCNA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3vOeCkeCNA)


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: dimonstration on September 25, 2020, 05:04:14 PM
There are already 2 giant online shopping app in my country, these 2 shops already provide better service that can range from cheapest to costly and can determine the quality of each products thru review,those country who already experience good service from online shop will not try to invest with if it can only just do same things like the existing ones can, if the only difference is t can use cryptocurrency, there is one in my country too that use 3rd party app to use crypto to buy apparently it will just convert it.


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: condoras on September 25, 2020, 05:38:02 PM
1. they will use fedex,ups,dhl etc...i will force all shops to use that ,also shops will sort out orders ,we will provide the payment system and online shop .

But they already use those shipping providers and still, they dont/ can't afford to do "same day" delivery. Why? Because can be more expensive then the product itself.
Lol, force the shops?! With what leverage? Your brand name?! :D Come on, don't say unrealistic things just to say something...

2. I don't give ... about does brands , they can use amazon , ebay , alibaba for all i care ... i am interested in brands ,companies that respect themselves and their customers ,the mall isn't for third world countries,if your poor stick with alibaba,or if you don't respect the production cost and quality of product stick with alibaba.

On the contrary, you give... about brands! Since the companies (aka brands) that you want to have in your premium mall will be very well-known, expensive and probably careless for any wannabe project that wants to bring them onboard. Plus that these brands wants the rarerity of their products to stay in high level and so do their customers. So if you want eg. to get an Hermes suit, you know that you need to go in their HQ. Even the "Ready to Wear" series of such brands distributed targeted to specific retail points.  

3. I know it's costly that's why the project needs investors and shops will pay a fee like they do in real malls ,so we can afford to offer those services/entertainment.

Sorry but you realy believe that? LOL! They won't pay you a dime for being there. Instead of that, they will ask you to pay them for using even their name/ logo on your site!

Mall target is rich people and upper middle class.

Rich people don't give a pennie for malls of any kind. Because is more than certain that they can have an expensive product, right in front of their doorstep by themselves. Is a simple call from their secretary to the official store and puff, there it goes! They can even call the owner of the brand itself, just to say "hello"... ;D


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on September 25, 2020, 05:40:17 PM
There are already 2 giant online shopping app in my country, these 2 shops already provide better service that can range from cheapest to costly and can determine the quality of each products thru review,those country who already experience good service from online shop will not try to invest with if it can only just do same things like the existing ones can, if the only difference is t can use cryptocurrency, there is one in my country too that use 3rd party app to use crypto to buy apparently it will just convert it.

payment system is not that important it ...if other shops have it my mall can have it ...

The tricky part is to make it feel like a real mall.... to give the person that is using the online mall  the feeling that time is passing easy like in gambling .
When he uses my mall i want him to say : i found my wife using the hook up service provided by Alin's Mall and she ain't no gold digger...
I actually found new friends on Alin's Mall not just stalkers like on facebook.
I became famous on Alin's Mall ...
I made my first billion on Alin's Mall ...
I bought xyz on Alin's Mall ,when i was 19 ,now i am 80 and it's still working perfect ...
I want people to open my app/website like they check their facebook/instagram daily.

A combo between social networking ,shopping etc...

Now if i can find a way to make those things Jeff Bezos and his stupid tiny amazon will not even compare with what i have in my mind.



Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: condoras on September 25, 2020, 05:47:49 PM
~snip~
To be part of my mall it does not mean you will have success in biz ... it means that you already have and that you want to be the best.

It's now more than clear that you don't know what you are saying. Any kind of conversation here regarding this, it's simple utopian and a joke.
Btw, they are the" best" already without being in your mall or having all the products in one place... ::)

Now if i can find a way to make those things Jeff Bezos and his stupid tiny amazon will not even compare with what i have in my mind.

LMAO!!!!


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on September 25, 2020, 05:53:25 PM

But they already use those shipping providers and still, they dont/ can't afford to do "same day" delivery. Why? Because can be more expensive then the product itself.
Lol, force the shops?! With what leverage? Your brand name?! :D Come on, don't say unrealistic things just to say something...


On the contrary, you give... about brands! Since the companies (aka brands) that you want to have in your premium mall will be very well-known, expensive and probably careless for any wannabe project that wants to bring them onboard. Plus that these brands wants the rarerity of their products to stay in high level and so do their customers. So if you want eg. to get an Hermes suit, you know that you need to go in their HQ. Even the "Ready to Wear" series of such brands distributed targeted to specific retail points.  

Sorry but you realy believe that? LOL! They won't pay you a dime for being there. Instead of that, they will ask you to pay them for using even their name/ logo on your site!

Rich people don't give a pennie for malls of any kind. Because is more than certain that they can have an expensive product, right in front of their doorstep by themselves. Is a simple call from their secretary to the official store and puff, there it goes! They can even call the owner of the brand itself, just to say "hello"... ;D

1.High quality does not mean you would buy that thing again ...this is the concept you don't understand ... if it's high quality and i never need to buy that product again or in 50 years why should i care about shipping cost ?

2.If they can't provide high quality services / products like i said, i don't care how you are and what your brand is.

3.Not really ...if we get investors to pay for the entertainment / services you get the visitors ,and then the shops come after ...wouldn't you want to sell your product on something like facebook,netflix,instagram...combined ?

4.Rich people don't become rich by being stupid ...rich people like to save,invest not to ask secretary ... the only reason they would use the online mall is to save time ,have fun and buy something of high quality ... why should i pay a secretary if i can buy it my self with one click ,call etc ... ?




Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on September 25, 2020, 06:01:01 PM
~snip~
To be part of my mall it does not mean you will have success in biz ... it means that you already have and that you want to be the best.

It's now more than clear that you don't know what you are saying. Any kind of conversation here regarding this, it's simple utopian and a joke.
Btw, they are the" best" already without being in your mall or having all the products in one place... ::)

Now if i can find a way to make those things Jeff Bezos and his stupid tiny amazon will not even compare with what i have in my mind.

LMAO!!!!

Now the funny part would be if i am actually right ... never underestimate what is possible in this reality ... they made fun of that  guy and his stupid website where collage kids join and become friends and give likes...it's called facebook  :)

Never say never... Nothing is impossible ,the limit is only in our minds.



Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: Renampun on September 25, 2020, 06:06:53 PM
investing in your project is very risky...
In this difficult era, spending just $ 1 should be considered, especially invest in an obscure project like yours. I don't want to risk it. btw, right now you really have to have something to believe in order to attract investors.


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on September 25, 2020, 06:19:30 PM
investing in your project is very risky...
In this difficult era, spending just $ 1 should be considered, especially invest in an obscure project like yours. I don't want to risk it. btw, right now you really have to have something to believe in order to attract investors.

You guys should create your own pool ...i actually don't even want to touch the invested money. You guys vote on what to buy ,add etc...

And the tech side i will take care of with other programmers / developers

What i need:
1. Investors and biz people to take care of biz side ...
2. Salary for me and team of  developers and our "shares/stocks" of course ...
3. Marketing and Advertising team to create ideas for services / entertainment we should add in the mall.
4. Financial resources to pay for hosting , needed software,artists,movies etc

Alone it's impossible for me to do ... this is a big project ...needs  a lot of money to make money


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You know what they say if it's to risky it may be a scam or to good to be true ... but  there is also : if you don't risk you don't win  8)

This is personal decision only you can make ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ila-hAUXR5U





Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: Bitum on September 26, 2020, 03:35:57 PM
I am sure that none of the famous names you have mentioned will not want to identify with your product


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on September 26, 2020, 03:47:57 PM
I am sure that none of the famous names you have mentioned will not want to identify with your product

We will just have to see what the future brings ...  i never say never, i learned my lesson ... look at 2020 year , if someone in 2018 would have told you 2020 would look like how it looks now ...would you have believed him ?

When bitcoin started as a crypto i mined around 60 bitcoins with my pc ,i said same thing no one will use them and i sold them for 10 usd .


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: ultrloa on September 27, 2020, 01:30:55 PM
I am sure that none of the famous names you have mentioned will not want to identify with your product

We will just have to see what the future brings ...  i never say never, i learned my lesson ... look at 2020 year , if someone in 2018 would have told you 2020 would look like how it looks now ...would you have believed him ?

When bitcoin started as a crypto i mined around 60 bitcoins with my pc ,i said same thing no one will use them and i sold them for 10 usd .

Don't compare the case of bitcoin to your current project since it will surely have a different result and this bitcoin pumping history is always used to show to the newbies that how they can possibly earn if they invest today. just show some great developments and other milestone of the plan project since people nowadays want result and not just a story.


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on September 27, 2020, 04:04:10 PM
I am sure that none of the famous names you have mentioned will not want to identify with your product

We will just have to see what the future brings ...  i never say never, i learned my lesson ... look at 2020 year , if someone in 2018 would have told you 2020 would look like how it looks now ...would you have believed him ?

When bitcoin started as a crypto i mined around 60 bitcoins with my pc ,i said same thing no one will use them and i sold them for 10 usd .

Don't compare the case of bitcoin to your current project since it will surely have a different result and this bitcoin pumping history is always used to show to the newbies that how they can possibly earn if they invest today. just show some great developments and other milestone of the plan project since people nowadays want result and not just a story.

If it will have results/profits there will be no need for investors anymore :)


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on September 28, 2020, 07:07:45 PM
i decided to change the layout style do to fact there could be thousands of nav links and to use wordpress as main cms as it is easier to manage by people


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on October 13, 2020, 05:36:22 PM
mall project has been canceled as no investors want to join in


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: milewilda on October 14, 2020, 09:41:49 AM
mall project has been canceled as no investors want to join in
No matter how hard you do try, no one wont really invest or transfer funds on just simply showing their blueprint on what business they would gonna build. Lots of scammer nowadays and you cant blame people
on having that kind of mentality.


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: condoras on October 14, 2020, 04:39:27 PM
mall project has been canceled as no investors want to join in

Did we tell you from the start that this business project of yours is a utopia? Be more realistic and start "chasing" tangible goals instead of clouds in the sky... Maybe then you will find investors, partners, collaborations, etc., etc. 8)


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: ChrisPop on October 18, 2020, 09:57:22 AM
From a first view it looks like a directory-kind of website where you list different shops/businesses from different industries. The ecommerce market is quite saturated and I really don't think we need a centralized digital space to see all the businesses. I mean, Google makes it so easy for customers. We just search for what we want to buy. Though I'm not a shopaholic... Just my 2 cents man. Maybe you should think about focusing your dev skills on something more constructive.


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on October 18, 2020, 07:42:25 PM
From a first view it looks like a directory-kind of website where you list different shops/businesses from different industries. The ecommerce market is quite saturated and I really don't think we need a centralized digital space to see all the businesses. I mean, Google makes it so easy for customers. We just search for what we want to buy. Though I'm not a shopaholic... Just my 2 cents man. Maybe you should think about focusing your dev skills on something more constructive.

Google made a wrong move it started showing local ads in search engine just so they increase sales with adwords .... For example i want to find products that are not in my country ...and google still shows me local ads...


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: smartcontracts100 on October 18, 2020, 07:48:44 PM
mall project has been canceled as no investors want to join in

Did we tell you from the start that this business project of yours is a utopia? Be more realistic and start "chasing" tangible goals instead of clouds in the sky... Maybe then you will find investors, partners, collaborations, etc., etc. 8)

It's not a utopia ...it is possible ... how did yahoo,google,facebook start ?... and look at them now ... they built their platforms the same way i wanted to ... step by step ...problem is people lost fate in the internet ,and the internet did gave them some very good reasons to lose fate in it ...

Now people think that the giants like google,microsoft etc have the solutions to all the problems.... not true ... we are still out there the rest of us and we see the problems that are still not solved yet ...


Title: Re: i am building a online mall,would you invest in it ?
Post by: condoras on October 24, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
It's not a utopia ...it is possible ... how did yahoo,google,facebook start ?... and look at them now ... they built their platforms the same way i wanted to ... step by step ...problem is people lost fate in the internet ,and the internet did gave them some very good reasons to lose fate in it ...

Now people think that the giants like google,microsoft etc have the solutions to all the problems.... not true ... we are still out there the rest of us and we see the problems that are still not solved yet ...

In theory, everything is possible. Here though you propose something that needs a lot more than a site/ platform and the most "crucial" point of it is the consent/ permit from already big companies/ brands. You compare Google, Yahoo, FB, companies that are not even related to the project that you propose. Even if we try to compare them, you forget something important which is the time period/ frame. They started the right moment at the right point...