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Seems it's just an echo chamber that tells you your bags are going to the moon... And if the price happens to go down? ?
....then it's another chance to fill your bags even more LMFAO!

One critical observation.... Instaban!

Silly ass shit

Am I wrong?










Edit: I am not talking about Electroneum.

Biggest joke on Telegram is Avalanche. Great project, horrific Telegram. Not one negative comment.  LOL

But this is how it's done on almost all projects...purposefully.

Trashy as hell.  BAD form. Zero class

I do not think calling all members trash or crap is the right thing to do especially if you are the community manager.
These telegram groups represent the projects communityand there are many newbies and passionate investors that want to see price to grow quickly and there's nothing wrong in it.

We can't blame them or do something about it. It's their way of advertising and spread positivity on groups also as an investor we are get used to it and most of us probably would ignore those however the newbies one might fall for it but we can't just instant ban them for that in my opinon.

in my opinion it is natural that most members on telegram think positively, because they always support the project they invest in (as long as the project is not a scam) and in my opinion it is not just telegram, but all forums that discuss about cryptocurrency will always think positively and support the project they are invest.

I dont think it is safe not to be on telegram or twitter if you are in cryptocurrency. The 2 are the most active form of communication for cryptocurrency enthusiast, the competition in the space demand lots of development from most competiting project. So it is important to get those information early to save most of the token. However, bitcoin enthusiast may not need telegram at all but altcoin investors really need it

I somewhat agree with the above. Telegram is not all trash, there are many groups which are useful not only to potential investors but to newbies also.

Do not let a few bad experiences from some groups put you off from potentially forming more connections and getting more knowledge.

The key is to weed out spam groups, and only keep those that you think give you value. For instance, many projects are launching their public token sales on telegram, so it would be silly to miss put on similarly great things - don't you think?

Yes, we just have to be on the right group and not in a group in telegram that will only give you a false information. It is one of the active source of information that's why this should not be considered as trash. It is just there are more spam groups that we should avoid and not be joined.

Yeah it's trash when you got the wrong channel with the wrong people lol try to observe some quality channels, rather than being optimistic that they are going to the moon, they keep on consuming the time in all good possible ways, in short they are realistic than being too positive. But to be honest, telegram is compose of all the shit that you are looking for crypto, scams, ignorant people and even online beggars lol.

Just join those telegram channels that you have vested interest with. Like tokens or coins that you are still holding. Others, just delete it because some will automatically add you to promote their project. That's what I am doing, only those coins that I am following because sometimes the updates are fast as compared to their thread here. So if you are waiting for that coin to be listed, make sure that you are subscribe to them. And once you sold their tokens or coins, then delete their channel, because you have no business anymore with them, less clutter.

My experience in telegram is mediocre if not interesting. I mean i know that telegram boasts its superb encryption that make one breathe a sigh of relief, but of course you can trust the app if you are having a secret discussion of conquering the world. Also I haven't seen any good chat groups that would be an interest for me to stay and use telegram more. Me and my crypto enthusiast friends tried tobuse telegram but we really can't see the need.

These kind of instances are explained by airdrop participants because they are the ones that are in thousand of shit telegram groups and channels shouting all sort of pump and dump noise which sometimes causes newbies diving in for a trade because of FOMO

Simply fact of avoiding these trash telegram is removing/opting yourself from non-beneficial groups and channels. It would be better to subscribe to Binamce IEO, margin trading, latest crypto news channels for updates.

That's not something new in telegram when there were a bunch of shillers who are always saying non-sense things, if you are joining in the finance project's group and you will find a bunch of shillers who will saying like this.

im usually never taking it as a serious thing and just try to troll them.
They were shilling without using their brain as keep talking the trash talk even their bags worth zero value and they will always try to say it will be mooning soon.  ;D

Telegram isn't the trash, it's not the platform itself but the users.

There are a bunch of telegram channels that's related to crypto but there are also channels that's not related to crypto. In generalization, it's not Telegram that you should be putting that frustration you have but to those channels that you're monitoring.

Get out of those toxic channels that tells you which coin will go moon today, tomorrow or by the next day.

Lol nope pretty much the same everywhere you go.  I only have some telegrams to look for particular news/changes etc.  The hype is rediculous and avoid at all cost, waste of time really.  I have gotten some good information by just asking in some but mostly its just garble.

When you mostly listen to shit talks in Telegram groups without making your own research.. You mostly end up getting your bags go down. Telegram isnt really a trash because you can also find your way, to the Moon there, too

Take the good and throw away the bad.
not all crypto communities are telegraphed as you might say. There are also many people who don't just say the word but provide real proof of work. positive thinking can have a good impact on life.

You are totally correct and since I am not in a bounty campaign anymore I stopped using Telegram there are no great projects to follow and there are to many messages coming in offering you obviously scam investments, this has become a tool for scammers and the management should do something about it.

You ain't at all wrong. It is really annoying hearing all sorts of hype to find out you're about to lose your investments based on mooning hypes of a coin or token that ended up being dumped.

Are we talking about the project of Telegram here?
Or you accusing the application as trash because of the people using it?

Anyone could just create their groups and there is no way Telegram could filter them all.
I have been with groups with those kind of strategy. It's like some of "supposedly investors" there are just pretending and they are also part of the team.

Yes, you're totally wrong.
Telegram, facebook, reddit, bitcointalk or even google aren't moderated scam and people opinion. Just visit trading discussion or speculation section here, you will see many people predict like a professional analysis (infact they're not)

So do you think Bitcointalk is trash too?

Do they really support the project or they are just hanging around trying to have a chance being paid sooner?but what if they did not Get the bounty on the said date of release?starting to say BS against the project?
i am not saying this to all but at least majority of those who shills in telegram is either paid by the team or those bounty hunters that longing to get some high in rewards?

OP is correct,Why not there is an option that the whole conversation can be deleted?if these platform really cares about their users .

Telegram is a tool. It's a social network and an messaging app that's been useful for many. Due to the nature of telegram, I don't think it's a suitable place to discuss about crypto and finance. Telegram is focused towards anonymity and hence does not implement any hard regulations on how individuals and groups operate. There are many so called signal and pump group and they do really work, but only for the operators and not the users. The group operators buys the coin first and ask for pump from users. They are the one who profits from the pump at the expanse of users money.

Yes, I do think you went on the extreme with your choice of word — Trash. There is often (a) loophole(s) with most apps where they can be exploited, and this isn't just a telegram thing. For me, Telegram is the best chat app I have come across in the course of my online engagements and business. I mean you can't make any attempt comparing it with WhatsApp, can you? I do agree that community admins often display their tyranny with it by banning participants whose comments they don't like but we really can't blame Telegram for that. We should blame the uncouth members for their loose utterances. Also, I do like the anonymity angle of it. You meet users without even having access to their phone numbers except they avail you of it.

Telegram is a useful application and much better than whatapps and other messaging applications but due to the anonymity feature it is used to spam and also scam people. Once you do a deal with any telegram user and get scammed, here is no way you can trace him.

You can say the same to every social media sites we got.
There's Facebook groups with circles of crypto holders and even cults there if I can recall some of them claiming to be one before.
They can say anything they want, in the end it is just like those whales telling you to sell so that they can grab your coins after you sell.

Everything in life can be abused by bad people, include scammers.

Telegram itself has its advantages and disadvantages.

Advantages:

• Real time conversation
• Funny
• It self-desstroyed features (you can set up period a specific secret conversation will be destroyed)

Disadvantages:

• Spam
• Difficult to manage updates by categories (developments, news, promotions, etc.). You can do it better on Discord.
• Scammers are around
• Be invited to join many scam, signal groups if you don't customize your privacy settings

About scammers, you need to know how to detect them:
- They tend to fake admins, moderators by put usernames of admins, moderators in their Bio areas. Remember they hide their usernames but try to scam others with Bio (that shows usernames of admins or moderators). Real admins or moderators show their usernames.
- If a scammer account get enough scam reports from community and are handled well by Telegram, their accounts will have a Scam badge.

You can help community by report scammers you see.

Some good threads on Telegram:

• Telegram scams (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5037588.0)
• Do this if you don't want to be dragged to different telegram ICOs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127958.0)
• Some Telegram tips for newcomers in the crypto community (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200303.0)
• how to report a scam on telegram ? recommended way (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211995.0)
• What Is “Scam” Label Next To Telegram Username? How To Report Telegram Scammers? (https://www.telegramadviser.com/scammers-in-telegram-and-how-to-report)

I don't think telegram is a trash can, there are still many very good telegram groups out there. Telegram, fb, tw are just like our society, there are many good people and bad guys, there are also many opportunities to make money and many bad projects that cost us money.
Closely examining the telephoto group and the information we find there will lead us to make the most accurate decisions.

They can so announce it in their social media account project that only announced in one media is not trustworthy if there is an update they should announce it in their blog, twitter and on their official announcement thread, there are people who are not active in telegram or prefer to follow on their social media accounts.

Social media channels is useful  depends from how people  see the value of information. If you are keen to find more deeper info every details should be backed up of your own research, people should avoid to blindly followed whatever the sharer provides inside the channels
it's your obligation to gather everything to favor you and make a good worth of those shared data.

In some ways your point of view is reasonable and I can't be disagree with it but telegram has became a necessary platform for us and we mustn't criticize its reputation because of some bunch of people who spread negativity and fud there well, we have options there to avoid all kind of negativity to keep our side clean and safe so we mustn't hesitate to use those options.

Telegram is like every other social media with diverse people, even the almighty Bitcointalk forum has the issue of spam to contend with and that does not make the forum trashy. I'm of the opinion that what determines your opinion is the group you belong and they're some healthy telegram channels and groups with awesome information and healthy conversations.

It's a norm for projects investors to be committed to promoting their tokens. We know what really makes the value of the token higher is the forces of demand and supply. The investors strives in their capacity to increase the demand of the token and this may be carried out in an unruly manner, but it does not change the motive.

On our part, we choose the information that is necessary and leave the rest, in my social media approach, I've learnt to ignore what's unnecessary to me and focus on the beneficial information and that has given me the opportunity to learn more instead of generalising everything as trashy.

I won't argue with that because I had the experience. I mean, during quarantine, I joined telegram groups regarding airdrops. At first I thought it was fun but later on, I realized that I'm just waiting my time. I didn't open my telegram for several weeks and when I opened it last week, the groups I'm part of have labels on the side saying, "Scam". I'm just glad I didn't take it seriously. I left those groups immediately. Good riddance.

Though crypto is here to stay in no uncertain terms, the information sources, or educators are still very few. Telegram and twitter are proving to be two real sources of interactive social exchange, and to outright dismiss or reject them as a whole would really be foolish. One just needs to be discerning enough to be a part of the right groups and projects.

What are you exactly pertaining about? The messaging app itself or the projects with telegram channels that you joined in? Be precise because many will contradict you (seems obvious actually). If you had a bad experience on such projects then get mad on those projects not on the medium ;D. If I were you, I will move on once and for all and avoid investing in new tokens. That's the key I think.

It's not telegram that is trash it's only a share of the people that are using it.
I also hate it, when people are shilling projects all the time without even giving one fact why this project is the greatest ever.
And then, when the price of a project is falling they are attacking the admins of the project and telling them to do something like they are in control of a free market.

Guess you haven't join such telegram channel or group that are very useful in terms of crypto trading, predictions and analysis. However, not all were really trash, although most of them were really created useless or for different purposes (to advertise, airdrops, or to makena wcam) but some were still useful. I have this one local telegram group channel where in we can share ideas, predictions and target entry.

It's not totally trash.

That's a common thing for sure. There are so many trollers, scammers, liars, shillers in telegram and any ico groups will always have these types of persons.

If you are seeing some people were saying it before and then you may enter to the wild ecosystem of telegram. So many fudders even the scammers in the exchange sites group too.

I think that depends on the mod and if there are mods and it may not happen as those were totally banned.

Telegram has a lot of junk content because it's so easy to develop or do something on this app. It's like Ethereum, too many tokens are junk.
We shouldn't blame Telegram, it's more convenient and easier to use. If the telegram is garbage, Facebook, twitter also contains a lot of trash.

Well, I can agree to some extent because every project telegram I've joined so far are like that which is why I don't use telegram anymore except when a bounty campaign needs it. They are just full of bots, bounty hunters who are just there because of rules, hypes that doesn't have a base, SCAMS, and FOMO. It's also so inorganized and when you compare it to discord, It's so inferior. So yeah it's trash lol.

The @OP is not wrong. The telegram as a media that has large people gather in many channels from all over the world. But we need to be careful because it seems the scammers tend to use telegram to scam their target. I see many of them trying to invite more people to their channels and ask them to invest in one or more coins, but then they play with the pump and dump price. The investor gets losing their money, but they can not complain to anyone because the scammers are already run away with the money.

Trust Telegram shillers at your own risk. They always appear as individuals or group of people who always influence innocent investors to fake projects and pump and dump schemes.
Have you come across Telegram of YouTube influencers?
 My experience was a bad one, they will make you buy a coin you don't have interested with their hype.

he is pertaining about the telegram function i believe because these days only few projects/groups using telegram as a legit company.
almost more than half or 3/4's of telegram being used is for scamming and also hacking,this brings OP that perception about telegram being trash.
personally?i also think that this apps is being abused nowadays and yet the management is doing nothing to prevent this cases.
Look how they are allowing the entire message being deleted?
what is the purpose of these being allowed?
thats why the whole system becomes trash because of these majority users.

I begged to disagree but Telegram isn't trash. Telegram is the most commonly used by cryptocurrency projects aside fro their other social media channels. Telegram is where the project communicates with its users, investors, and possible investors in the future. Telegram is where they actively discuss new updates of the project and solving the supports of the users.

I already learned my lesson, I also came from telegram, hunting some good investments, I've seen lots of crappy channels and groups relating on crypto trading and signals. In my opinion, we should not trust our investments on these kind of community, Telegram is mostly used by fraudsters, so it's not safe as so not guaranteed good environment.

I am not going back again in telegram, unless there are necessary task that should be done there. Just avoid crypto groups shits, but if you happen to find good one, that will be great.

We cannot actually say telegram is a trash, perhaps it is the tool that updates us on whatever is happening in our bounty campaigns that we're in to. It also bridges the bounty hunters and managers that are engaged in a bounty campaigns or airdrops. So, we shouldn't say it's a trash when it can benefit us.

Its kinda funny that some of the people here are saying that Telegram is trash or the OP himself too is also a trash. Ooops.

The social media itself has been filled with scammers and toxic people who are swarming the platform trying to scam newbie investors. The problem here is the platform can't do anything to tolerate this ones. Well twitter and facebook has been used too by these scammers but are they really the ones who are trash???

Which is the trash?? The platform or the people themselves?? If it wasn't for these scammers, telegram isn't called trash right now.

You won't get the surprise if someone added you to their telegram group. You're right, telegram itself is not trash but the one that uses this in a way to scam people, manipulate them, and make them fool.

Telegram helps us to spread news, warned people but the problem is that some used this for their bad intention and makes people think differently. I'd somehow to ignore and leave groups that give less or no interest but have to keep some when it gives a reliable source of information.

You're right. In some points, actually a lot of points we can be updated about the future developments and events going on via Telegram. Sometimes you can find a signal to trade your token in good price. It's a good way to ask question about the project and have background check for them. You can know if the project is scam or not. We can say that their a lot of inactive users in telegram but the way the project team will give the updates about the project helps a lot.

I believe that you need to take into account the fact that many cryptocurrency users, including investors and Bounty Hunters, receive a sufficiently large amount of information for their activities about projects from telegram groups. In addition, there is a lot of fraud and spam on other social networks, not just Telegram. You need to constantly filter the groups in which you are a member and not succumb to the provocations of scammers.

Telegram is trash if the project behind it is a scam and also trash. That's why people are also throwing a trash because they know it was a trash bin. Telegram is one of information source about crypto and about the project. Also it is a communication tool between the bounty manager that's manage a certain project and the hunters. Updates and other important information's are found on the telegram. So it depends on a telegram that you can call a trash.

Maybe there is a sense of disappointment that comes from the telegram group that thinks it's rubbish, even though we just need to digest and choose from what the people they are talking about because not everything they talk about is rubbish, some are useful

Telegram is full of spams and scams but if anyone looking investment advisory from random people on spam group then they sre nit really putting any effort to make money from their capital.

Recent days telegram is more used for pirated contents and adult movies by lot of people, anyone using telegram here? :P

You are not wrong and if I can be honest it is the truth. but we also can't blame them because it's all a form of their marketing strategy be it via telegram or other channels. So it's only natural that there is always positive talk about their project. as an investor should know about this and don't believe it easily.

I will not say that they are trash because of their content in terms of knowledge that all contained from inception. Those social medias have brought the true meaning of information to the world  most especially the cryptocurrency world, many projects launched often taken to telegram or any other social media to educate their investors, I don't think is proper for anyone to call them trash, there are still negative perspective towards this but I tend to look beyond those using it for dubious activities.

Telegram is not trash. For me, it is really the best messaging platform for cryptocurrency projects. What makes it trash are the groups and the members who spam random trash referral links and promotions of random projects. And also, it all depends on what the project is and with the people who manage the communities. One thing I hate the most in Telegram are these random pervert users who keep on messaging any users who use pictures of girls. I tried using a picture of a girl once and I got 10 PMs in less than 2 minutes.

The reason they would say for banning you is definitely creating FUD. No community manager would allow that. They will instead feed their followers (Most newbies) with lies and promise like "going to the moon" thing than say the truth.

Telegram is definitely not trash. There are some groups that would accept constructive criticism and accepts suggestion by the community. Might be the telegram group that you joined in is the otherwise.

So you prefer to investing on the project that doesn't have support group chat ?
The function of telegram chat group is to stay updated about the project news and updates.
If they ban you because you asked about the project, then they are trash indeed, not the telegram mate.

your talking to the telegram groups ? because of your title  . seems like your not used to them arent you because telegram are mostly full of shill groups and only wants thier coin to get promoted but i found that beneficial if they do that on the coins that we know the most . you know , coins such as btc .

telegram , the app itself is not a trash but i like it because its an instant messaging and verry usefull for communicating . telegram itself has nothing to do with the crypto scam and shills so dont call it trash

Why are you saying its a trash? Are you pertaining to telegram or the users?

It seems you had a bad experience either on telegram or with scam project but it doesnt mean telegram is trash. There are channels that are not reliable and only active because of members shilling the project. But tg is a great source of information from the team and be updated to the current progress of the project. Its quite normal to advice someone to fill their bags during bearish market but its only applicable for coins that has potential and not on shitcoin.

In as much as i agree with you to some level, i still believe those telegram group represent the company advertising channel and the only such of first hand information directly from the team. And at that the community will be monitored as much as possible and only positive feedbacks are welcome but in must cases the hype are too much and at the end the project may not perform up to expectations due to too much hype.

But unfortunately, since a few years ago, when the ICO is booming, many people got scammed from telegram because many projects require people to join their telegram channels. So they joined in many projects at the telegram. Suddenly, many projects become a scam, and they can not get the answer at the telegrams. That still happens nowadays, but this time, it seems, people are aware of such thing so they can be careful.

I agree that due to the large number of bounty, you have to join even more channels in Telegram. This creates a lot of trash in your chat lists. It pisses me off. Very often, in these chats, the really necessary information cannot be found, only bots and fake accounts.

i dont think Telegram is trash, although its funny how you find yourself in some unwanted group but still okay for this coins updates and bot messengers reply are always on point .....
Telegram is not a total trash

If we use everything that was made for, then the problem is solved. Why will anyone invest by following any telegram announcement? We know how telegram groups scam with investors. Telegram is just a medium to communicate with the admin team to solve your problem. We shouldn't take any decisions by telegram, just follow their announcements.

Truth to be told that is true for any social media platform as well, people already have the tendency to socialize with those that hold the same values and ideas that they have and when you add a financial incentive then this becomes even more pronounced, after all who wants to listen they are investing in a bad coin with high probabilities that is going to crash and produce no profits? No one I suppose.

And when you add as well that developers do everything to hype their coins then it is obvious why they will ban from their telegram channels anyone that dares to speak against the project.

Sometimes it's very annoying for some telegram group that didn't give a quality update ,instead of updating people there, only the bots answering and making spam in a telegram chat. But not all telegram group is not good because telegram is also one way of communication between the project and investors, Bounty manager and hunters. So, Telegram is not a trash. It a channel of information, it's up to you if you want to join a trash telegram group or not. Just choose the group that can give you satisfaction regarding some projects or news channel about crypto signals or whatever.

Should we blame telegram for all those shit things, advertisements, and also scam information?
It is like we are blaming all social media where we can use it for positive and negative sides. but yeah, everyone has their own thing and I don't think so.
The ways you get from telegram will depend on the way you do and believe in telegram.
To avoid all the bad things from telegram, we need our effort to do some analysis. that is why we have our ways to learn it.
- Filter all information coming from a telegram
- Never believe so easily
- never only follow the other members do on telegram
- Never join any airdrop or gift rewards from telegram if it is not officially announced in the official channel of certain projects.

This has been like that for a while now, I know people are not realizing it when they are too much involved themselves but in reality telegram groups have always been filled with really bad type of people.

You go to any big group and there are people who spam you, they keep creating accounts as well so blocking them or reporting them do not work neither, there are tons of people who think they are the greatest investor ever and suggest coins like you have to listen to them or you are an idiot, there are people who got to become an admin which made them so snobbish that being admiring there equals king of all crypto in their mind and expect total respect and dominance, there is tons of horrible people there all around and I would suggest just have one with few of your friends and that's it.

I often feel the same, especially if i have a genuine concern or question and while i am waiting for official help or reply i start getting DMs either by private people who want me to invest in their ponzi or DM by people that are faking the team or admins where i have asked the question and they will in the end ask you to send money to their ethereum wallet to solve all your problems, I used to talk a bit from these people initially but now i either ignore them completely or instantly block them.

I like telegram groups only because i get instant updated and directly can ask questions and get answers.
Othet than that telegram is full of scammers, spammers, fraudsters and i would say thieves. There should be some way to auto block such people.

you are right, I often observe that most of the community in the telegram project always talk that the project coin will go to the moon. I don't know what they have in mind but still that this is a form of project promotion as well. and even I wasn't sure if the people there were real.

Seems it is very easy to manage telegram and community. I see hundreds of K users in the project group bu only a handful of them are active. Before ICO or IEO there is too much happening on the group and after its over, sounds like everyone is on vacation :)

It could result to bad perception about the situation of the project. Telegram admins should be active to communicate and give updates to the current situation of the project. Its good to see that there a lot of good feedback about the project via telegram  and other social media. It will help to promote the project. The more social media platform that they can participate, the more possible supporters that could get.

Many telegram groups are not active users because they are randomly added to expand the community, only 10% of active users are found without good analytical knowledge and they always predict that they will go to the moon when it is the opposite.

I'm moving past Telegram as much as possible.

Telegram for talking about collecting lizards,  or talking about different kinds of cooking recipes..etc.... Maybe

...but for crypto? Telegram is trash

The actual platform itself is not doing crypto or the <legit> projects that use it any favors. They may think so.. But the whole this is a cheerleader echochamber created based on censoring critical points of view and banning those that want honest discussion.

This may seem like a win to a project, because it's "all good", but long term, I think it's bad.

Look at Avalanche... Arguably the most groundbreaking project since Ethereum....which enjoys support from Chainlink, and even Vitalik himself....with a 100% censored circle jerk telegram.

And this is par for the course for 99% of projects Telegram groups....like I said... This even affects AVAX

Telegram is the most important part, that represent the project as well as helps new comers by giving information about their project. Updates & verious news will be fould there. but it's true that, nowadays most of project add fake users on their telegram channel so that they could draw investors attention on their project & easily scam their fund. So People Should be aware of them

yes right, I realized that and this is also not much different like an ICO manufacturing service. So, the reason why I'm not surprised if an active user telegram or a project has tens of thousands of members is because behind the scenes it is a paid member or a fake bot member.

It's always like that I think its for advertisement and to give good impression to investors or probably they requesting it on their bounty campaign since telegram is one of the channels that needs to be active I think all the projects does have this kind of channel good project and bad projects they're mostly the same in my observation or maybe i just don't see some other groups.

Currently most of scammers using this platform for scams and cheats just because of this I also feel its going to be like a trash because few days back I create new account within very short time I have very long list of scammers those want to chat me about this projects and other stuff we need some changes in this if these can happen then surely this can go good in near future.

It would be suspicious that a certain project would just ask out for positive sentiments and that would really create some friction if one of the participants would really talk about it and
the team wont really like that.
Why not just think that they had moderators that do clean up any negative words towards the project? One thing though about requirement  is on being active on the group which isnt surprising
and that what makes them more legit but the real thing that they are just trying to mask out for their scam.
You would really expect those random message from someone about investment or whatsoever because they have already scammed or fool out people on using this method.
They might be obvious but there are still people who are really that dumb that do easily believe into these cheap tricks.

Scammers will lurk out into places on where they can really make out money on deceiving people.Telegram had infested lots of scammers and been commonly used messaging platform
for most project.It might not be 100% scam projects but i say it is on 98% and only few are legit ones.

Telegram in my opinion is good for communication and sharing insights about many things.

Because many communities are members of it, so many people use it for their own interests.

Lots of coin scams are shared in telergam groups.

The trash is not the telegram, but the irresponsible people.

Many teams do it. Nowadays the bans are more rare but they often delete messages and have stickies saying that FUD and trolling is not allowed.

If you say their coin might be a scam it's an opinion but to the team it will alsowas be one of the above.

It's not the telegram's fault. I use it as a messanger but coin teams are usually trash.

Spot on. the telegram groups mostly filled with people who expect get-rich-quick investment or want the coin to increase multiplefold and just that. nothing technical in discussion or anything. It'd be great if these telegram group exist to discuss about the project's weakness or something constructive to help project become an even better project but nah, you discuss about that be ready for insta ban

I also agree with some members who are defending it Telegram isn't really a trash but there are more groups in there that are actually trash.
We don't have to say that it that way of course we are aware that there are so many trash project around it but that doesn't mean that all of it are trash,
There are still some telegram group that could really be worth it since they could offer knowledge and help other grow as a trader it is the same as the bounty we couldn't say that all of the bounty is trash because there are still some that could be worth it.

How do you say that Avalanche is the biggest joke in telegram? There are many projects that are more trashy in telegram and we cannot count them all. I invested in avax and they are answering the queries well. If there is a telegram projects that are useless and trash, those are the projects which only want to scam the users. Those projects who just hype the participants by putting up many telegram accounts. Those are the telegram trash for me.

I'm heavily invested in AVAX. Hard to find a guy more bullish on AVAX than me. My posts says it all.



BUT....

I say their Telegram is trash because they don't allow any criticism. If you don't talk about how great it is.... Ban..

Complain about anything.....ban.. And they all laugh.

Look at the history.... No negative comments= censored circle jerk



Lucky I'm not investing on them having a good Telegram,  because it is worthless

There was BTC... Then ETH...... Now AVAX.  The Avalanche project is that innovative and important. The ROI will be mind-boggling.

....BUT their Telegram sucks



MOST all Crypto Telegrams are trash.  Almost all.  

The Telegram format, and the way it has evolved to be used in practice...is not good for crypto projects.



For Crypto...

...Telegram is trash

Its good to hold out for some standards and wanting to maintain freedom of speech; I think transparency goes a long way for any project, so does being able to accept criticism in order to better your product. Maybe try to get the thread for your project happening here and encourage people to migrate there from Telegram.

Twitter is probably for old-school people as for me. Telegram is the best progressive messenger (and even the network). Personally I do not know anyone who deals with crypto but does not use Telegram.

I do not totally agree. I don't think it makes sense judging all the groups on telegram just because of one or few trash groups. There are many trash or worthless groups on telegram in the same way, there are good ones. Also, in most Projects groups, there is every tendency to see people who say positive things about the project, just like you can also see those saying negative things, but when the negative goes way beyond the positive side, then something is wrong, and if you look closely it will likely be from the team.
Also, there are project groups you will see, their mode of interaction and conduct protary how legit the project is. In the same way, when most groups wants professional engagement from their community, they move to Discord but does it mean telegram is bad? No, it is all a matter of choice.
Therefore, from all indications, I can't say Telegram is trash, it accommodates a good number of members, it is serving the purpose it is created for, both in crypto projects angle and other endeavours. So since telegram groups are made up of people, any behaviour experienced whether good or bad, comes from people.
Just to add again, when one is faced with issues in a particular exchange, the best place to get help is telegram.
Yet and yet again, telegram is serving a purpose.

You should be more responsible using any social media channels, as long as you are willing to do your research learning which is which still beneficial to you.

Like what you both said it's the users who are controlling their fate, if you are responsible then you'll be able to use it in the right manner.

While, if you are irresponsible both being scammed of doing scammed can be performed.
It's you that will be liable to any actions that you'll going to take.

I think telegram is good for communication, and it's not just crypto users using telegram. so in my opinion the trash is cheating users on the Telegram application so we have to be more careful in joining the telegram group.

Telegram is not trash it depends on the community and how it is managed,  a serious project with confidence about what it represents will do well to avoid doing airdrops and Telegram campaigns, this 2 things are the reason why yoj see most Telegram group quickly turn to trash, most of this airdrop hunters are so desperate they will ruin a good community with desperation,
Any project who allow this will not have a healthy community aside trash, if a Telegram group is managed properly it turns out to be great.

I feel Telegram is the same as other social media, nothing is different...
Telegram has been ever banned in several countries because the issue is used as a medium for terrorist conversations, that had made Telegram shares fall. Telegram is great for conversations that are very private if used for positive things, but we cannot prevent scammers from taking advantage of the security and popularity of telegram to spread their groups. the point is to take care of yourself and don't be too trusting with people you don't know there.

This is true, It's not just crypto aware people are the one who is using telegram, It's just the concept of the telegram is suited for crypto users because it can provide the anonymity that the majority of the cryptocurrency provides. It will happen on every messaging service if those people you encounter are on the same platform. Toxicity from other people won't be removed especially we are talking about money and scammers are just lurking in for their victims.

Come on, you are a community of a project or promoting a project, of course the sentence to attract people to join their project is needed even though it looks exaggerated, I also often hear words like that from many people, if it's been a long time then you will get used to it and don't need to worry about the same once. ;D

I thought this was about taking a jab on telegram as an illusion of being a part of a project but not really because updates there could be fabricated lies for investors to feel safe because they are being given updates.

Telegram has a good advantages when promoting bounty projects. Projects could make many members engaged into it by the help of telegram channels, also it keeps the members updated on what is happening about the project and it's development stages. We cannot say telegram is a trash, perhaps it helps to bind the members of the projects and the project's staffs to keep in touch on their activities.

Bruh hate the project, why the app?

I think there is nothing wrong with telegram even I am very active on telegram than using discord, some of the latest features are pretty good nowadays, when talking about channels with crypto groups on telegram like trash it seems like it's wrong to blame telegram, oh yes that makes telegram trash maybe spam users that I often encounter to deceive many people by promoting scam projects, that's probably what makes telegram full of junk projects

When you are in the wrong group you will experience this. If disturbed by other members say about a project, just mute the notification if you feel you have to stay in the group if you can't immediately leave the group.
There are still many useful features in telegram. The problem is how do you respond to each chat from members. This is same as other social media, some are annoyed with posts but some are normal to respond, you will always be dealing with things you like or vice versa.

Whats wrong with the OP, you hate telagram app because you invested in a coin/token that you got rekt lol tg is just a medium of communication just like any other app like discord, reddit, most projects promise huge returns in your investment but you know in yourself that this is not true, in the end the one to blame why you lost money from this coins is yourself all investment is risky.

I think so that telegram have several trash group which tends to be a scam or fake telegram groups somehow we cannot really eliminate the fact that there are still few telegram campaigns which is still useful to us. Let us just vigilant in joining and participating a telegram campaign to avoid trash telegram group/channel.

There are also Crypto Telegram groups who randomly invites you for no good reasons so that they could increase the numbers of their members. I assume they are scam projects because the project is not that very known and only a few active members. It is why I don't usually trust some Telegram groups, and even they are active because they are just shilling their community.

Being vigilant must always be there, because without being alert people will always be trapped in any group, because I myself also often get invited to telegram groups that I don't want, so I myself have to clean it up by pressing spam and leave.

Nobody blames telegram, but the biggest problem is the misuse of telegram. the meaning of the word trash is paid members or often called bots. I think you also often come across certain types of telegram groups with tens of thousands of members and the majority of them are some kind of paid members.

Every project has been created with a different motive to archive to the end as much of communication, and hook up around the world, hence telegram communication group is the one of means of communication, which we are all know that information is very powerful. Need to be updated always, and not is wrong with telegram.

This happens on every social media not just telegram. Users shill the projects they have hold or involved with. One should always do its own research before jumping on to put money based on some anonymous user's comment.

BTT could be the same echo chamber too. It all depends from topics/group that you are choosing

Yes, it all depends on the needs we need, meaning that everyone has their own choice in seeing all things and evaluating them, so ignore things that are not important to us and join groups that we feel are important.

True, it is like most of the other social media platform, but the amount of scams that go through over there is unbelievable. They form groups. Lure naïve and stupid people to their groups and then scam them all. The groups are private and filled with shills, so no one notices anything until they get scammed. But it is true that scam takes place almost everywhere on the interenet. All we have to do is be careful. But it really staggers me how some people even "pay a premium price" to join those groups and then get scammed in the end.

A lot of channels are definitely echo chambers of rabid fanboys and team members that cannot take any criticism, even the constructive ones. But this is just generalizing ofc, there is a plethora of super useful crypto communities on Telegram and project groups that gladly provide counter arguments to  criticism without banning, you just have to look closer.

on telegram if there are too many cryptocurrency groups or channels it will confuse us and unfortunately it still can't be deleted in an instant, so I think you have to be able to find channels that really provide many benefits so that you can get as much profit as possible from the signal they share or other information.

maybe even not only on telegram but on some other social media as well. it's just that the telegram channel can be a spam nest because it's easy to set up. I mean, creating spam groups is easy and it is this convenience that makes people abuse telegram channels for negative things.

I also support your point and what you say is true, not just nonsense, because it is misused by irresponsible people and in addition to the many people who offer investments that we don't necessarily know about, many people offer investments. to me it makes me lazy to open the telegram, because the contents are no longer important information but just trash ..

I especially hate those project groups in which you are added unwillingly just because you are following some crypto channels on telegam, that is too shady. Also these giveaways are just for the marketing purposes as people will get to know about the project and they will be saving a lot of money on marketing. Airdrops aren't paying good recently, it used to feel good in the past when there used to be a new coin in your wallet out of no where each week and then they used to give good money when you used to sell them on the exchange(if they ever got listed).

i hope telegram can be decentralised soon!
Way too many rules!

not really, as long as you are in the right position. I mean, just use telegram as an information channel for the project you are currently on. Ignore some unnecessary telegram groups and don't have to bother or care about the large number of fake members. just focus on the telegram project you are following.

I know there are a lot of useful channels on Telegram. Therefore, I think calling such an app garbage is pretty cruel. You should try harder to find good channels on telegram.

I find it difficult to understand were you're going with this.. is it that telegram is trash..  or the people using the application is trash which is it?

This platform use by many scammers that's why he think this is just a trash . I think telegram should add more security in this platform it is easy to create an account there and use it to scam many people. The bor creating in that platform is also use by many fake developer that promising a free coins tahts not even give legitimate tokens from airdrop which is also not a good factor for them to be in the list of good social media platform to use.

It is not wrong if every member of the community on the telegram answers like that, because it is not justified to answer otherwise or answers that contain FUD,
As an investor, it is better not to believe the words of the members in the telegram group, because we do not know who they are, it is better not to care about it, except for the official admin on the project.
and this is not a telegram mistake, because it is common in the cryptocurrency project community on telegram.

Yeah Telegram groups are pretty trashy at this point, I mean those who are devoted to one project.
Crypto related communities in telegram are fairly better than most of crypto related forums, for instance

Yes this is very agreeable knowing for a fact that I have joined several telegram bounties and airdrop but turns out to be fake and bogus telegram channel it is just a waste of time and effort in my part and also to several hunters who used to always participate in an airdrop or bounty project in the telegram.

Because Telegram allows group owners to allow remove/add members and delete their messages without any explanation and you can add unlimited botted members to your telegram channel and there is no way to know how many bots are warning the channel because we cannot view members in the channel (in group we can but not in channels).

But I hardly ever invest looking at telegram groups and the fake hype created by them so I am not fooled because OI do my own due diligence and a scam project is really easy to detect if you do your own research and do not allow others to manipulate your decisions.

I have joined thousands of groups on telegram and 70% of the groups I follow lead to scams. better more selective which group we want to join so as not to lose time and thoughts.

as I know Telegram is decentralized!! it depends on the group maker that makes the rules. cmiiw

Telegram has the haters, and these are mostly people, who were unhappy to meet scammers there. These things happen a lot (on YouTube, WhatsApp, Instagram). The presence of several dishonest people (or even groups) will not affect my attitude towards Telegram. A bunch of crypto traders can communicate easily there and share info.

Telegram is a very important social media tool for third world countries, look at Russia and Belarus. The mentioned countries have blocked all access to social media and VPN ports have been disabled during the political aggression by governments. Russia alone has banned more than 1 million IP addresses but Telegram was the only messenger that worked flawlessly. Using the proxy and sharing the proxy address lists(MtProxy Telegram groups) combines the security + influence power of social media together, of course, this is just only technical side.

it is true. To speak the truth, you may get banned. Many community members do not ask questions because they want their rewards and just asking logical questions, they won't see that group again. Also, to attract new members, so much hype created like nothing in the world is as profit-making as their project.

Honestly, you see most times I find that place so annoying at a point I decided not to open it for week, the only reason why I go to Telegram on a daily basis is because of Bluzelle I need to be updated on daily because where your money is there you heart is, yes Telegram is trash but we will continue managing it since there's no better place for now.

Telegram is a good platform to know the latest news about the project.

So if you are following or investing in a project its a must to have a TG. Though make sure to only follow their legit channel because many scammers are also present there.

I think the statement is a little bit biased and unfair for Telegram

Telegram is a tool for communication, it is design for people to have conversations and group chat
It is not made to be  "Find your ticket to the moon investment"

It is just that people are using it as a spamming tool to scam/lure people into dead pools of scam
People need to learn and read instead of just giving out private keys, or even invest into some random project that they don't even have a hindsight of it

it's not all telegram group are trash, find something unique about it,
FYI we can develop bot in the telegram, take the good not the shit

It is true that today many scammers use telegram to cheat. Like promoting shitcoins, spreading FUD, offer investments
by promising double profits, make donations to fake charities, give trading pump and dump signals, fake giveaways and
other negatives. With all the things I mention making telegrams like trash. Even though it's not the fault of the Telegram
platform, what makes telegram look like trash is the users themselves. Not using the telegram function properly.

Therefore, it is very important to choose useful friends or groups, because for me telegram is not trash. With telegram I get
the latest information about the development of the crypto market, I can also communicate with the bounty manager, and on
telegram I was able to create a group among the Crypto community.

Telegram itself is not trash, there might be a ton of crap Telegram groups, but that does not mean that Telegram is trash. Would be like saying Facebook or Twitter is trash just because there are a lot of trash groups on those that isn't worth following, that's just silly in my opinion.

I actually stopped using telegram because there are so many spam messages once you join a group people will flood you with offers and 99% of them are scammers and I actually get tired blocking them so imagine how many of them are there.

The worst thing is that they would not scam you directly, they will always ask you sweet questions like "How are you doing" and after having a chat with for 10 mins you realize you were chatting to a scammer and how those 10 mins they wasted are not coming back.

It is just too easy for group admins to create positive hype around their project as they can hire puppet accounts and spam positive messages while having the ability to delete messages always allow them to delete the negative and genuine criticism.

I gave up on Telegram in 2018 or thereabouts,,, you see it used to be an actually good place to follow updates and catch up with things but then the era of bounty hunters arrived in 2016/17/18 and then it was nothing but flooding of "wen list" and "where my tokens" and you know it is in real life just a handful of people in fact. Not even real people just one guy controlling 20 or 30 accounts.

Then the spam and adds. Crypto is so toxic when you allow it to invade your phone.

Telegram is not trash, the users in it are trash and I'm agree with you when you say that is full of scammers, bots and fake accounts that ask to you to invest in projects that don't exist!

There are various unscrupulous individuals who do not trash the telegrams who create rubbish by spreading their influence over the telegrams the various individuals or groups that handle telegrams turn them into trash and turn them into scams. Also access the Telegram screen related to the conversation and then start using the service crypto is helpful in exchanging information between different social media telegram services.

Yeah, you are making sense via your point's, calling members a trash is not ideal because some new user who are two weeks old in community can equally adopt or emulate such usage of terminology thinking is the best way for discussion not knowing it's wrong aspect of communication in the society.
I believe everyone knows what is obtainable to avoid degradation in all ramifications of the society.

Yes i agree with it, lets not generalized all of the telegram users as a trash. Maybe its team behind has not been yet figured out the best out of telegram and hasn't harnessed what other capabilities telegram may offer in the world of digital currency. It so happened that the passionate newbies willing and eager to learn about discussion wasn't in the right page of discussion hoped that they can find a way to get in the right page of discussion for them to grow more in the world of digital currency.

Well, if someone on the streets in real life came up to you and started talking to you without any "reason" for it, it usually is because they want something from you, either money or your support for their cause. It's like getting spam mail in your mailfolder, hard to stop, just need to block them.

Telegram nowadays is not all that trash because there are still members in the telegram who are still true to their group and don't have any negative intentions. It will only be a trash once you have joined a group who are only there to scam others with their sweet words at first and finally starting to steal money from other members particularly those who are still newbies in crypto. We should still be careful and cautious everytime.

This is the wisest opinion. Telegram is an active forum that is widely used by project developers to gather their strengths. Many advantages, with a large number of members, bot features that are used to make it easier for managers, etc. As with most, telegrams are also used by scammers to set traps. The key is in each of us to create a filter. There is nothing wrong with telegram, it all depends on the user. I think.

Telegram is thrash if you entertain people there about there offer and you are in a wrong project, but telegram is important to get an update on project that we have invested and promoted, not everything on telegram are thrash but there are a lot of scammers here, you should know how to pick the right group.

The tons of crap groups made it trash... Some people see it as a good opportunity to make business, but that social network is now full of scammers and shit coins. Tons of scammers getting on groups to attack their users. I feel isn't a social network that worth to be on.

Instagram is still the best app for messaging now, whatsapp is far worst and don't have many good options like we have on telegram, it's good to make some good privacy settings and all will be ok.

The rate of spamming on telegram is so high and worrisome. They really need to weed out spam groups out.

Why do you say that Instagram is the best application for messaging? Are there features on Instagram messages that other apps don't have? because I personally who have been using Instagram for the last 4 years don't find anything amazing on Instagram, so I still love to use telegram when it comes to messaging.

And what is the difference between telegram and all other sources of information? Anyway, collecting your pool of sites and sources, you will inevitably find yourself in the same echo chamber in which you will read that "BTC is about to go to the moon and you need to buy now!!».
It doesn't matter if it's a telegram, a paid subscription to specialized publications, or a quick look at pseudo - news from the conditional CNBC. All these are the same echo chambers just under a different sauce and no more.

Why blame telegram, when with information influx and propaganda, products are vociferously promoted, which is their right, for the choice, awareness, discrimination, still remain individual and decisive.

It's not on all projects telegram that has positive comments, instagram wouldn't make it better since it will carry a project and the same set of people in the telegram will still be on instagram with the same mind,Let's look at it in the direction of the fact that most people on that media are their to support the project. If the project is not doing well, don't dull, there will be negative comments.telegram has created an avenue for good rapor with the project officials.

Yes, it is very inappropriate to blame Telegram, because they provide applications that can be used by everyone in terms of messaging needs and others depending on our individual needs, and for matters because of the easy occurrence of fraud or other, it is because we are easy to believe in things we still don't know, so it's illogical for someone to blame telegram.

People often bash telegram for these groups because the fact that telegram takes minimal steps to control such groups and scams that happen over the telegram right now. There has been a feature which is long criticized, which is the ability to delete messages from anyone in the group which kills the concept of real messages and criticism in the group.

Similarly people can start conversation with anyone and then just delete all the conversation from both sides which actually makes it feel like telegram is made for scammers.

Telegram is indeed very easy to use and provides good functions but the problems and the scams that happen over telegram often over shadows the good it provides.

IMHO, I believe that Telegram was very useful to many crypto projects nowadays, on the other hand, the crypto projects are also helping Telegram to achieve its goals by advertising it thats why crypto projects are one of the main contributors to the Telegram's popularity today so both are helping with each other to grow thats why for me Telegram is not trash but a tool for communication purposes.     

Correction Telegram is not trash, this apps is just an instrument most often to scam the community in cryptocurrency that's the truth.
Telegram has nothing to do with it. So better to be careful in participating in a telegram that is using bot especially if it is an airdrop program. Because believe me it not all of them are not really paying or giving the rewards.

Well both kind of groups exists and if you among those where good discussions are done and healthy environment is maintained then you are really lucky because almost all of the groups right now are made for a particular purpose which is to promote something or just pure scam people.

I recently saw there were some carding groups where they were selling game hacks and actually I was interested but then it turned out that they are only scamming and after scamming they would remove the user from the group so he cannot say anything against them.

That's true but the problem is that anyone can message anyone on telegram unlike facebook where we have to get an approval before we disturb or scam anyone which is annoying.

I can understand why some people mention Telegram is trash, because now there are so many scams on the Telegram platform.
Especially in the cryptocurrency world, Telegram is often used as a means of communication between fellow crypto communities,
and Telegram is also used by the Bounty Manager to communicate with bounty hunters. Here scammers use Telegram to spread
fake investment offers, and also shit projects doing fundraising using the Telegram platform. So it's actually not the Telegram
platform's fault if there are lots of scams, however, we ourselves should be able to filter the information that occurs on Telegram.

I do not agree that telegram is a trash, because it is one of my best applications that I use to know updates about projects and learn new news about crypto, and it is not fair to say it is a trash because of scam channels and groups, or because of the large number of scammers on it, this is not its fault and the telegram is making every effort to make their community safe.

You can't blame them if they think that telegram is trash. Because they were many fraudulent scenarios that happen on telegram and this is very prone to scam or something like to say, telegram is a house of scammers and hackers. This is actually good for the crypto industry because telegram is a part of decentralization, you don't need to submit a real name and real photo but it is easy to communicate others, so meaning to say, it's your diligence to have research first before dealing with someone on the internet.

Tell me another social media platform that will be good to communicate with users and investors, apart from telegram and twitter. Telegram is the only platform, I normally make use of to get information about a crypto project easily.
As for me, telegram is the best, in terms of easy communication of information

I do agree, I don't see any other platforms that we can use to communicate and gather updates aside from telegram,

Maybe OP joined in groups that is really giving non-sense updates where he can just leave the group and find a better group. There are still lots of group that is good enough and giving updates.

If in detail then this happens in every social media, not only in telegram, for anyone they must always do their own research, be it investors or bounty hunters, and also don't easily trust bot members in the telegram channel.

It is a good tool and it's still being used today by developers to give updates on the development of the project and so are by the scammers to scam newbies or who do not aware how scammers works or how they use this tool to scam people, investors and bounty hunters should be aware and do not trust anyone in telegram right away.

Looks like, OP has complaints about the social media groups of some projects. The Telegram is the best alternative compared to Slash which only lets the team members communicate with each other while in Telegram everything is free and open-source(AFAIK). The bounty hunters keep spamming the telegram groups by asking the same silly questions about the exchange listing, already announced swap details. This is irritating and admins have the rights to ban such messages.

I won't say telegram is trash, it's just that scammers tend to abuse every good thing in life,even at that there are still some great crypto communities there, stop surrounding yourself with the wrong community, they are some good community there that can actually help you walk your way up to the moon just filter the groups and take the right ones, if you don't feel comfortable in a group then just leave, also do your own research don't follow other people's opinions.

Telegram has many features and is easy to access too. in fact, most bounty projects use telegram as a communication channel for the ICO project itself. But we need to be careful because the Telegram feature, which is easy to set up, can be misused by scammers to trick their targets.

If you got scammed here or have been deceived yes it trash because scammers can always delete your conversation and they can imitate other users, but it's still a very important communication tools for developers to their supporters, but I'd like to see a better version of Telegram because of the so many abuse.

It is like a knife, you can use it in a good or bad way, It all depends on you, Usually, every project got a telegram group to notify the members and also there are scammers too, there are some people getting paid to increase the numbers of your telegram group, or to report it so you have your group closed due to the violence or any other reasons, but it exists and in a bright side, you can ask your questions there and get some useful information out of it.

There will always be those who will spread FOMO and FUD on any project telegram groups, it's left for the group managers to automatically reject messages that consists of any FUDs, the best Telegram group i like among almost all new projects since 2018 is Chainlink, as big as this project is the telegram group is well controlled

OP made mentioned of Avalanche project, well this crypto project is not a scam or anywhere next to it, investors can be annoying sometimes, just because a telegram group is blocking people off doesn't mean the project is scam, some people's aim is to spread FUD and that's no good for any new project

I do not agree with the above statement that telegrams are rubbish. Because not all information in the telegram is trash. Even from telegram we can get a lot of important information about new projects. And I think telegram is very useful not only for seniors but also for beginners.

Another proof of the spiral nature of history.
First there were forums where there were a lot of scammers. Then full-fledged fraudulent crypto projects began to appear. And now it's enough to create a landing page and a group in TG that would already be able to profit from someone else's ignorance.
Just no one wants to conduct at least the simplest and primary analysis of something-it's much easier then to go somewhere and write that "[N] is a Scam"

Telegram is the most common tool crypto project is using nowadays in communicating with their users and investors.  It is where they announce also their important updates aside from other social media channels. In telegram, they can get feedback and other concerns from the users and investors directly. In such a way, they can resolve the issue faster. So we can't generalize all the telegram groups as rubbish.

You guys should see my email account and the kind of shit mail I get every day. Basically 90+ % of the mail in my mailfolder is either phishing emails, straight out scams, or trying to sell fake products. Kind of puts things into perspective amd makes Telegram look like a much better platform of communication.

Yes just like uniswap you cannot control who signs up for telegram and ask them for Kyc. It's in the hands of the users to be aware that there are scams happening and no legitimate team will ask for money through DM.

Your observation is good but it is not logical enough. Telegram isn't trash, you highlighted some of the things done by the community members which make up of the bounty hunters and airdroppers. They creat awareness for projects derive traffic and Investors. It is an open market where emotions lead people into investment. So you can't come out of the blue sky and say the entire telegram ecosystem is trash. It is so so uncalled for.

There is basically no Crypto project without a Telegram community. Even if it is not a group for open discussion, it could be a channel to pass information across. A lot of people got to know cryptocurrencies through telegram.

This is the old trick and numerous people would have fall for it. Just better to stay away from any such group where losing chances are much more than making any money from joining those groups. Feels bad at point that people lose out money to such thing and hope that new beginners would be careful with such things.

I don't agree with you on this thing. Telegram is very useful for crypto project. It is being used as the communication tool for every project new or old. In telegram users and investors can forward their concerns easily. The project itself also use telegram to give their new updates.

lol no way anytime soon. some people are not monk who don't get too fond with money you know. By the way there's already plenty of decentralied communication platform like telegram but no one controls it but most of people still use telegram because they just find it more convenient than learning to use new app that's actually beneficial for them long term.

Aside Telegram platform is there any other platform that connects users and project owners easily? I don't think so. Although Discord is there, but yet people find it extremely easy to be on telegram than Discord, therefore I won't be mistaken for saying telegram is user-friendly. Also, the issue of bad groups on telegram is not capable enough to outweigh the importance and usefulness. So I would say, if a telegram group or channel is not serving the purpose you joined it, you can easily exit, and probably if it is a project you have invested in, you can also consider selling it off, so that you won't have anything taking you back to the group. But for being useful and Important, Telegram is.

We cant really deny that there are features on centralized platforms like telegram compared to those who aren't where people do find It convenient that's why they do really stick out
on this platform even if its infested with lots of scammers and frauds.

So far they had been issues but people do continue to use them due to easy to use and some features which are really useful specially on messaging.They do
continue to become keen when it comes to possible frauds which is a good thing.

I don't see anything that will be on level with telegram.Discord isn't even on that level.

Seems like OP has a big grudge towards the project and not the Telegram as a whole. But please be cautious as it could affect the reputation of this decentralized messaging app. Telegram allow us to freely community in our own rules, perhaps, you have been banned because of spamming or maybe other users reported you for some reasons. It is not the Telegram's fault but with the people who reported you or the rules you didn't obey.

For me, telegram was the best messaging app which is really suitable in the world of cryptocurrency. It just adhere to the characteristics of crypto.

In telegram, you should always be careful and never send your money to some people. The information that you read in groups/chats should also always be checked twice because it may just attempt to steal your money.

Its quite unfair. The moderators holds the right to ban someone by telling the truth there. One example is Dogdata / EthBn as there coin. They automatically ban you whenever you ask something that for them is against their rules.

Well, whether if this is just a personal issue, we all know that telegram channel really does a lot of scammers and false information. This may be considered as trash because of that, no one filters it and no one can prevent the scammers from doing anything they want.

I don't agree, telegram was only considered as the best because no one can compete with how it is easy to communicate through it, but because of that, it becomes the place for most scammers.

Right, they ban every person that ask question that against them, they do that because they cant answer those questions so the only solution is to ban those members.

Not at all you will start loving telegram very quickly once you start discover it's wide range of benefits. As a project you be asked the same question again and again, especially if you are raising funds. At that point of tim you need someone to respond immediately to the request, so I feel telegram is one of a useful channel for crypto projects and it's community.

yes, it is mostly done by the admin of the campaign program group. sometimes they do it because we strongly protest or corner them with policies that are not relevant to the rules they have made themselves. I have also experienced it from several bounty projects that I participated in.

I dont understand the grievance of the OP, If he is not interested in telegram and crypto group he should leave. Except in wrong groups most project groups do not talk about price, they talk about the development and the general market if cases come up. Telegram had been so effect as a community for this technology, It allows regular communication and a direct contact to teams and their heads. Telegram will develop to an app that will allow live video conferences for cryptocurrency and everyone will be able to make his/her contribution.

The worst thing about TG communities is that they say "every voice matter" or "all members of the community are equal" or "we do hear to your opninion" and then ban you after you say a word against theirs) and then the real attitude shows)

that depends on which group you are speaking of. Some of them are filled with real people while there are others filled with bots and fake accounts. If you are invested in any alt its imperative that you check their telegram just try to avoid echo chamber. They are quick to spot when there isn't any opposing voice or valid comments are getting deleted.

but usually there are some bots that invite you to enter the group and that will only make our telegram full of garbage that is difficult to clean, at least there must be a way to delete all groups or channels in one click so that it can simplify and solve the problem of telegrams that are full with trash.

As they say the price will go up to gain people and moderators of telegram group for investors to invest more, but the main problem is there's no can tell them what will be the market flows if their token will be listed because they can't control sa price of it.

Not only for telegram but you can say all internet is crap. But there are good sources and scam sources. Same as telegram channels. There are channels that help you to follow crypto market and new projects. So if you can use telegram properly instead of believing all people blindly, then telegram is a gem.

Yeah not only telegram but most social media platform have bunch of trash, but if you uncomfortable with the trend of the platform you have the freedom to opt out or unfollow the project. I had also been kicked out in some chatboards of projects commenting negatives, but action speaks louder than words they don’t deserve a place in crypto space if they can’t absorb negative comments.

i dont agree with your statement. calling Telegram trash is very wrong. It all depends on how you manage and co-ordinate your project campaign activities on the platform. so , it depends on you. if you want the platform to be effective then co-ordinate the campaign else, it will turn bad.

telegram is good.

I think that Telegram lacks the implementation of some functions that would help users get rid of spam, unnecessary information and this would add more recognition of Telegrams from users. First of all, It would be nice to have a function to prevent strangers from inviting you to various groups.

I think you should know better, how can you expect a project or community manager to speak negatively about his project. Sentiment aside, I think Avalanche is a good project but I do not know how they want to incentivize developers to use their platforms and it is not alone, look at EOS, Tezos, Near etc they are struggling to attract developers, this is the problem with some of these Ethereum killers, people don't build on them, if they can get a big project, like what Serum is to Solana then it would give Ethereum run for its money.

That's it. There is little spam like this in telegram - it is quite difficult to write to you in a personal account if it is blocked. So no bots and other stories will work there, which is not the case with regular mail, which is filled with all sorts of bullshit 24/7.

How is this telegram's fault? You making it's sound like this is what telegram is all about, telegram is not responsible for scam crypto projects, criminals can use any social media platforms to target their victims, it's left for everyone to become very careful and do good research on projects

You can stop unimportant invitations on telegram using the settings key button, adjust that and get rid of spammers and about avalanche I think the group manager have already put some key words into auto bans so no one is allowed to speak negatively about the project, how is this bad?

yes, it's even worse when suddenly the group account of a project suddenly disappears and can no longer be accessed. we can't get any information, and that is the biggest scam.

Actually, many projects restrict their telegram group to not talking about the price of their coin or token.
I think this is to prevent price speculation and manipulation, and not all of telegram group are trash.
We can ask freely about the project and we are free to decide whether we want to buy it or not, no one force us to buy it.

good words, talking about price will give a bad impact to any telegram group, thats my opinion
because the main purpose why a project create a telegram group is to discuss about the project seriously except price, such as development reports or something else

Bans are really bad way of answering on criticism, but some projects like Elrond have really good tg groups and there you can talk everything, what are you thinking about project and cryptocurrency future (ofc not in rude form). All projects want to have perfect telegram channel with many positive messages, because it`s face of the project like website. Developers never write on their websites about their weak sides, the same situation you can see in tg channels and groups. I think, there is no way to avoid it

It's true, Banning people or ignoring them can bring such an issue that the project team can't even defend or justify their side, Banning them could make their investors possibly lose trust, Knowing that if someone raises up an issue and not solving it can affect the whole integrity of the project.

That's true, Many project telegram channel I saw before have many hired people to spread the positivity on their channels, I'm not against it but sometimes having too many positivities on the channel wipes out the real issue that needs to be resolve and it gives an illusion to the investors/clients that everything is fine.

Why is discord so much better?

Telegram is the most convenient way for the communty to communicate. However, due to this convenience, it is spammed by bots and some users who are spamming about moons and lambos, and etc. I think whatever platform Developers use it will be the same, they can still ban or ignore questions from users, people can still spam whatever they want. It all depends on how well the team handles the chat platform by setting rules and how professional they approach each question and queries.

It's not the platform that is trash, Telegram is one of the safest messaging app in terms of privacy. It's the people's greed that makes crypto project groups look like a ponzi scheme. There are so many bots, fake accounts and scams. People who wanted to be rich fast and not really minding the idea, the product and the innovation behind the project. Yes there are so many trash projects out there, but there are still nice projects with not so bad community in telegram. It is not the platform, but the greed of the people, are the root of this problem.

Not true at all, maybe your just in a bad community rules but in generalize? Telegram is more good than any other group platform. Can communicate easily and no need hard implication to use. Its easily to make community there and fun to use so its not a trash like you said.

How will you believe the word moon coming from a telegram group? That's normal to see on new projects telegram group, I don't take them serious because even on a shitcoin telegram group you will still see people saying the coin will moon, it has become a normal vibes, don't take it to heart

Many people are still doing this wrong to date, stop judging projects by their telegram group performance, serious team mates will never have the time to be on telegram all the time, that's why they hire admins just to keep the group rolling, you can't judge how superb a project is using it's telegram group

I really agree, when the developer is bad at his project work when there is criticism on telegram, those people say FUD and get banned from telegram, even though in fact the developer work is bad, I prefer forums, bad news and good news are included properly, no project licker

Lots of them are flooding out on telegram this is why i do turned my back to this messaging platform yet my own account had automatically join up with some
groups that i didnt tend to join..

Dont know on how they do make it possible on joining someone which arent really that truly choosing to join up.Entire platform isnt a trash one when it comes to
functionality but it had been infested out by lots of frauds and scams.

For people who do just dive in without even knowing on how the market behaves or works would most likely lost up some money.

That's the big risk if you are just following someone without any further knowledge about any investment that you'll going to take.

But it's exist, there are traders who are listening to those spam bots inside telegram most are newbies that being entice of the the

big profits that being promise, you have to really invest with yourself to avoid become one of those victims.

So its not the telegram platform but the people making FUD about the project for investors to panic?

This is common in social media sites not only TG, but if you have knowledge and aware of whats going on to the project that you're following then you dont need to listen to others.

Dont confuse yourself and ignore those people who cant help you with your investment.

Telegram was good for project that have intention to grow up there community but the probole is you easily kick out in no time if you said something against the rule from their project, Sample just like asking about the prices of the coins they answer you not discussing the prices in the group or suddenly kick you out if you asking again. And the worst I dont like is too many bot and ads so annoying and sometimes we didnt notice that we are inviting from another project again.

Telegram is just a platform, it's the people that consist of the group that's making it worse. these bad actors have made Telegram their hub for their Ponzi scheme, scamming activities, pump and dump groups, and scam ICO, because they fully control the group if you go against them you can ban you and kick you out.

I agree, the people are just people there too, I can't blame social media because it plays the mirror role here. The useless questions and wrong accusations can drain the energy of chat managers and I don't think the other users enjoy staying there too. The role of social media can't be denied because Telegram has helped many project managers to find new investors but checking the useless messages of bounty hunters can be eye straining, IMHO.

I think that has become a natural thing because indeed all the different characteristics of people will give different responses because maybe they are also doing research that the project is a scam or not, so doing that is not an easy matter because sometimes what is already done in careful not in accordance with the results.

Telegram isn't trash for other reasons. But it's a trash for most crypto related reasons. 
Telegram is a place to leak ass for to get paid by crypto projects.

For investors or anyone, you should not believe what the members of the telegram group say, because we don't know who they are, it's better not to care, except the official admin on the project and this is not a telegram error, because it is common in the cryptocurrency project community on telegram. My advice is to be careful and do not easily trust them.

That's right on the point. So much of these so called signal group or a specific project group full of scheming scumbags trying to rob innocent people who knows nothing. Sadly it's telegram where most of them are under the radar so they could just did what they usually do which is scamming without even worrying about getting banned by the platform.

If there's newbie out there trying to make fortune don't ever follow an advice from telegram like ever because that's just spelling your own doom.

it would be better that way. but sometimes there is information that the team does not convey to the community. even information can be obtained from group members, not from the direct team. sometimes some information that is not profitable for the project will not be shared by the admin. but other, more critical participants could provide better information. but all depends on the context of the information conveyed.

That is Telegram's greatest weakness when they cannot control fake or real phone numbers.  Currently I can spend a few dollars a month to get thousands of fake phone numbers and create telegram accounts easily :)
This is a major flaw that causes more active spam services to come out and from there we will also have more scam projects.  If you just need to fix this problem, maybe Telegram will be the best social networking app in the world for services as well as user information security.

Telegram is one of the good social media to help a project to be closer to the community,
of course it is not trash, it all depends on the team of the project,
if they are scammers then don't blame telegram.

Telegram is only doing its job, the real culprit here are new projects creating telegram group on telegram, the app is just working as intended, scammers are the bad people using telegram as they see fit, most times investors and bounty hunters are to be blame, you can find out the real intent of a project by asking deep questions about project on the telegram group

Honestly I do not understand what the OP said and there is no strong reason for someone to blame telegram if a fraud occurs, it's true as you say if telegram is only a means of communication and of course everything that happens to its users is the sole responsibility of the user, there is no reason for us to blame the telegram, so as a social media user, especially telegram, of course we must be wise in processing the truth about the news or information that exists and not even directly to believe it. and not even blaming the media as it is today.

I think your conclusion about this is flawed, it depends on the channel or group you joined, there are group that censor posts very well because of spams and people don't want you to use your own negativity to affect the decisions of others, I could remember listening to someone post on Qtum then and I refuse to invest in the project and the project did more than 20x, a huge miss for me. Have open mind and do your own research

The reason why often telegram is considered as a cancer to the crypto community is because it enables scammers more than before. Earlier user had to find mail IDs and send emails to them to scam others but now it is particularly easy to scam anyone because you can find their telegram and anyone can message everyone on telegram which means a scammer can message a project owner and offer fake services or lucrative offers and scam.

The worst part is that scammers can rise and repeat without any action being taken against them because they can just change their ID, delete all the messages from the chat (telegram allows deleting chat messages from both sides) and then use a new nickname to scam others.

I think some project team pays hypers to always say positive things about Thier projects and some are investors too that would want to say everything good so as to get more investors to buy while they dump. I could vividly remember seeing such in two or three groups so let's always be careful. Telegram is an avenue of awareness.

Yes, they find people who will hype the project and spread positive updates regarding the project to keep it alive. That's why telegram is not as good as it is before, also, telegram is being used by many scammers that's why we should choose the telegram channel we would be joining with.

Well, how can Telegram be blamed for all that shit happening there? They're active enough to even tag a scam as a "Scam" if enough reports have been made by real users. And about those non sense channels and groups, why don't you just leave those groups and also report them? I believe that 95% of the total users in such groups are nothing but bots so there's no point in believing anybody and DYOR is the mantra to succeed anywhere. Trust yourself and leave those mofos' non sense predictions aside.

Their platform is the medium of those messages neither it can be bad or beneficial this is why moderation would be mainly suggested but its a hard thing for telegram itself to filter out which
one is worth and which one is trash thats why the users itself are the ones who should really be careful into dealing with things specially into those obvious frauds.
They arent trash yet they do well served on how should their service should work it is just people do make use of it for their benefit even if its on the negative way.

Telegram is very helpful, if some people here say trash, then I'm sure that person doesn't understand and blame Telegram,
all of us here have experienced frustration because of a scam project,

I love telegram. It helps me to understand some hidden agenda of some new projects, and fish out some paid fanatics. Telegram can equally expose weak team through insightful technical bombardment of questions. I simply don't follow the FOMO on telegram, I am responsible for my life.

Teligram is a social yoga medium that allows people to talk or watch with each other. Some people use it badly, but it is really bad for them, and whoever thinks that it is the best kausal, then it is good for him. There are two sides to every thing, good and bad. From here you will find one.

Telegram is a place to discuss new projects and it is fine to build a community on telegram, indeed there is a lot of trash and spam in many ico groups who are also a scam and dead most of them are not so important when the project dies and has failed people to join the telegram group usually want to be closer to the project they are involved in.

Telegram is not the problem mate
You are being subjective here

Telegram is just a tool
The environment, quality of chat does not differ just because it is on Telegram
If the coin's atmosphere revolve around PnD, Scams, Hyip
You can't avoid the fact that the chat will have tons of moonboi that is toxic or MOD that is toxic because the project itself is not genuine

Telegram is just a social media platform, it's not to be blamed for how people use the platform, every crypto projects have telegram groups and majority of these groups aren't active, even if the groups are active you can't judge a project with been active on telegram or not, always have in the your mind that serious teams don't have time to spend on telegram group, they are always busy with development

the effectiveness of the team in a chat is indeed the main highlight, because every question must be answered by the team, and it is true that the team must focus on the project itself and the project team must be able to answer every question from investors who are on a social media channel .

For new project，telegram is a great way to get publicity，although it did exist these phenomena that you are talking about，but i deem this   is a good sign，because it means this kind of telegram is activity.

Better believe it's refuse when you misunderstood the channel with some unacceptable individuals haha attempt to notice some quality channels, as opposed to being idealistic that they are going to the moon, they continue devouring the time in all great potential manners, in short they are sensible than being excessively certain. Yet, frankly, wire is make out of all the crap that you are searching for crypto, tricks, uninformed individuals and even online hobos.

I don't think telegram is a trash, this is the easiest way to communicate the team to ask some questions about the project they will answer it instantly unlike the other social medias. Indeed that there are some project team that telling you to fill your bags and will go to the moon, I know its unbelievable but that's their strategy to gain some investors. It's not fair that you blamed telegram is a trash what about facebook and twitter they also did the same way in telegram.

Telegram project are the most annoying projects I have ever come across with, for my fee years experience in dealing with different projects. They just want to get their telegram channel, and in return they fail to fulfilled the promise they made to hunters and airdroppers. I have never seen the level of unseriousness by those projects managers. Though, the telegram is the easiest way to communicate to thousands of let at the same time. Compare to other place that can only take hundreds of people.

The bad thing is, they don't give a fuck when someone talk shit to those projects. They will insta-delete your posts or even ban you immediately as long as you make huge FOMO into that projects. If that was a regular social media then people have a freedom to talk shit to certain topics regardless of the impact they could get.

It's not all that bad, seems like they are just being positive about the projects nothing personal, I have seen tons of projects where almost all the members just go ahead to write positive stuffs about the project to help attract investors, most times bounty hunters are the once tasked with this job, but do you think an investor seeing more than 100 people saying almost the same thing agree to invest in that project? I don't think so.

it is one of the marketing done by them that is paying people to say positive about the project and we cannot blame them, it is our duty to do more research and not be easily swayed by such talk

Which is completely standard for the average crypto projects, the team hires social media manager for controlling all the mess in groups. If the bounty hunters ask too many unrelated questions, the group messages will remain disabled until the next milestone of the roadmap. There is a big list of "to do" and "not to do" for all social media managers.

It's a shame if someone calls telegrams rubbish, because telegrams really provide extraordinary information and benefits,
I myself have been affected by the effect, is that I always trade by following trade signals in telegram,
good news and bad news also spread quickly on telegram, of course it makes trading easy.

No one asks you to believe in Telegram. It is social media and full of FUDs & Hypes. You should realize that there are many chances of wrong information on the telegram. If you are an old crypto user, you must know about it. Telegram is always the same as other social media, it is used for commercial goals. If it is an official telegram group of a crypto project, you won't get bad things about the project there.

If you're joining a new project, it might be useful to find information and ask questions about a project you're working on or participating in and so on.
But don't be denied and it must be admitted that the projects that the Telegram group initially participated in will eventually turn into trash or useless and even ignore them.

Aside from you can create multiple account in telegram also most of the bounties are requiring some users to post something on their group every week so there's no doubt to see some kind of shill effect on those telegram groups, any users who participated bounties know that.

It's true that telegram has a whole lot of trash comment and several persons use the platform for their unscrupulous enterprise. But I personally see telegram as a great messenger that could bring a large community together.

Atari Token Telegram

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Telegram is generally unreliable. You do not know at what point you can be deceived, recently many fraudulent projects are made for crypto wallets in telegram. Why I don't understand risking my money like that. There is no guarantee that if money is lost there, you can't prove anything.

You should never pay attention to this kind of groups, we all know that there's alot of cryptocurrency channels having spammers and fakers rented just to keep the server going and to keep a discussion maintained. I saw this type of folks who shills some coins and they are used to share memes about that, am i right?
I always laugh but when it comes to financial actions, i never follow any of these behaviours, you should too, you should only invest in the ones that you really want to invest in. Even telegram was going to use its fame to earn some funds and own a cryptocurrency, lol, you can guess the rest of my reply..

Ophh brilliantly put, it's like TG for TG, a place where - despite the lack of whitepapers (as if I read them).. despite the lack of audits, as if they guarantee shit.. there's - a closed group of owners, investors and prospective investors who are willing to share their views, facts, and opinions, so that you can actually find out about the project your either already in (for other reasons) or looking to invest. And your finding out with living information, that is to say a live feed, so that its not only potentially highly engaging, its also very revealing if don't read everything at face value or actually use it to ask direction questions and demand face value. Live.

Its funny how so many groups tend to go through the same motions on TG, you can read the vibez dude. Anyway tbh I'm one of those guys who ends up joining ALL the groups on TG, being apprehensive to leave because im scared ill miss something. But having to deal with a torrent of useless (to me at least) chat to get to the good stuff.