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Title: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Polo7 on October 01, 2020, 01:00:07 PM
Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.



Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: fiulpro on October 01, 2020, 04:56:37 PM
See the thing is not everything is dependent on the US , most countries are certainly capable of taking care of themselves, even though the US dollar is one of the most important asset in the world but we cannot really rely on anything right at that moment since coronavirus have shifted the economy in ways that we cannot reset. People have already sold their assets and are investing in cryptocurrencies. People are already okay with the fact that US is not the superpower anymore, therefore I do believe that in the future maybe some other countries will take over , since right now it's about surviving, keeping the economy stable and people safe , US economy going down is the least of the worries we should have , rather think about the underdeveloped countries which were struggling from way before.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: ololajulo on October 01, 2020, 05:08:25 PM
Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.

If we dont know the first world countries know and am sure none of them want to be overtaking in their position of power. I believe you cant just overtake the world power because of such acquisition. China has been on the road for over 2 decades and facing tougher challenges daily to overtake USA. Even in Europe, France many countries to Rival which include Russia and Germany


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: hugeblack on October 01, 2020, 07:01:57 PM
Is obtaining gold and military power the only one that makes nations become great powers within one year?
France has a lot of effort and exerted a lot to become a great power. I have seen a pattern of how they manage conflicts in Lebanon, Senegal, Mali, Libya and other countries in which France has taken the lead on the global front. French policy is not that strong and it cannot impose its word even by using force other than what happened. In Syria - Russia, and Iraq - the United States.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Hispo on October 01, 2020, 10:29:52 PM
In my humble opinion, I believe it is possible that USA could lose some of its influence within this new decade perhaps in the next one as well, but I doubt this loss of power would be critical or something ground-shaking. The United States besides its economic power, also has a huge political, military and cultural influence on this planet and every single of these components of its power can be used to sustain each other in the long term.
Their political and military power can make them stronger in the economical field.
Their cultural influence can be used to toughen their political options.
Their economic power can sustain their cultural expansion or their military.

They can lose some power, but I doubt they will ever become irrelevant.

Again, just my opinion.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: wiss19 on October 02, 2020, 10:10:12 AM
How about these countries focus on making their countries a better place to live, a place where there isn’t hunger and where there are lots of jobs and no or less poverty, instead of dragging world power? All these ideas of who should be the world power and all that is really becoming so dumb to me.

If you have the world power what are you going to do with it? We should be focusing more on things that are very important than things that doesn’t make any single sense at this time. And why are you talking about France, is that where you’re from? If I’m to name top five countries that would be a superpower, France is not on that list.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: davis196 on October 02, 2020, 11:29:34 AM
The country with the biggest reserves is China.Gold reserves aren't that important anymore.We are living in the 21st century,not in 19th century.Technology is more important and more precious than a shiny metal.
Good diplomatic methods can't make a country into a global leader.Economic and military power are the most important factors.
By the way,I don't see Quebec leaving Canada and joining France anytime soon.People in Quebec are french speaking Canadians,not French.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: dothebeats on October 02, 2020, 11:35:54 AM
The reasons you have stated to put France as an economic world power is pretty short. It isn't enough that a country has the largest gold reserves or is a friend of every nation. The framework that the US installed all over the world making their currency universally accepted is so massive that even China and co. cannot match in the next decades or so. France cannot match that, and would need tons of resources and other methods to make sure that they get widely accepted on all parts of the world.

You can say that France has been a great country for the past few years, though still not sufficient to overthrow USA on the top of the list.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Gozie51 on October 02, 2020, 11:50:43 AM
The country with the biggest reserves is China.Gold reserves aren't that important anymore.We are living in the 21st century,not in 19th century.Technology is more important and more precious than a shiny metal.
Good diplomatic methods can't make a country into a global leader.Economic and military power are the most important factors.
By the way,I don't see Quebec leaving Canada and joining France anytime soon.People in Quebec are french speaking Canadians,not French.

To add to your good points, France doesn't have all it takes to do that, it is not technologically tops above many nations. Being a world power is beyond just gold or metal nor diplomatic. All has to be in complete measure.

Example, I believe language is important for a world leader and French isn't the first above English language.

Currency supremacy is also another factor.

Military strength is part of it. These are few factors that can be considered because when dialogue fails, what next  :o


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Salauddin1994 on October 02, 2020, 12:25:40 PM
France is a very developed and powerful country the french are one of the healthiest richest and most educated people in the world the country has a comprehensive social welfare system that ensures a minimum standard of living and health care for every french citizen. France is far ahead of other countries in this regard besides gold reserves the economy has secured a lot. The global economy also says that china has come a long way in economic development and asian multinational companies have also positioned themselves in the world market.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: el kaka22 on October 02, 2020, 06:31:48 PM
This is already going on right now a bit, not that it is fully there yet because USA also has power non-economically as well but at the same time China has been doing all they can with the power they have.

Not that they are doing anything substantial in the world power stage but they are doing it to places around them or in them. For example, Hong Kong was a thing they did just last year before all this pandemic started, they stopped people of Hong Kong to take the power and now there is Chinese control over Hong Kong as well, it is basically part of China now, they are attacking places in India to take land as well and they are also killing Islamic people in their own country because they believe in a god they do not approve of. Basically they are already bigger, if USA did that the world would be in flames.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: BIT-BENDER on October 02, 2020, 07:52:58 PM
Are you predicting off the sake of making a point,superficial powers or what you want.
World power status is expected/bound to shift at a time.

The transition of power though will not be swift like you said it would happen next year.
The reason why you think France would the next world power 2021 is weak. Maybe we don't need further prediction/prophesy for a little while.
With all respect to France, a country of great appeal, economy. But in military power the don't come first or next below.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on October 02, 2020, 09:01:42 PM
Is obtaining gold and military power the only one that makes nations become great powers within one year?
Gold reserve and Military of a country is indeed a power but this isn't going to be enough to replace the world's greatest country (?) I'd rather believe that China is going to make it than France, I think you just say this coz you are studying about them and clearly overlooking some powerful country than France.

France has a lot of effort and exerted a lot to become a great power. I have seen a pattern of how they manage conflicts in Lebanon, Senegal, Mali, Libya and other countries in which France has taken the lead on the global front. French policy is not that strong and it cannot impose its word even by using force other than what happened. In Syria - Russia, and Iraq - the United States.
I don't know much about France, even on their diplomatic relations but seeing them inactive in mainstream talks gives me no damn about their supposed to be power.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: abhiseshakana on October 03, 2020, 04:43:37 AM
Gold reserve and Military of a country is indeed a power but this isn't going to be enough to replace the world's greatest country (?) I'd rather believe that China is going to make it than France, I think you just say this coz you are studying about them and clearly overlooking some powerful country than France.

He may study history and associate it with French courage to refuse to use the dollar as an international currency ahead of US involvement in World War 2, but after Germany launched an attack on France, France finally agreed to the terms put forward by the US to be involved in World War 2.

China, especially France, will find it very difficult to shift the dominance of the US military, both in terms of size, experience, reach and long-term planning, starting from the number of American military bases spread across the world to nearly 800 bases. Not to mention the space soldiers developed by US Defense and the combat experience of US soldiers in various wars that other countries cannot match.

https://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0053_defense-comparison
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases#Overseas_2

US hegemony and influence already exists in all sectors, especially through currency warfare. The world has a high dependence on the dollar but even if it returns to the gold system, the US gold reserves are still high, even in many countries Freeport is still mining gold to increase US gold reserves. China and France can become great powers but will not become superpowers, because superpowers are consolidated so that the US has always been a price maker, not a price taker in many sectors.

https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/info/gold-reserves-by-country/



Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Sapphire915 on October 03, 2020, 06:37:08 AM
I dont think this things are enough basis for a certain country to be great and become the world's number one. But, somehow I am confident that France deserves to be a leader too. France is one rich country with good diplomatic methods as you have said which I agreed. Its not impossible that France will make it to the top, especially now that USA President Trump tested positive with covid-19 and he is considered as high risk because of his age. Definitely, we dont really know what will happened next, but one thing is for sure, there are still a lot of developing countries all over the world who deserves to be on top during this darkest time. But, whichever is capable to reign the world, i will be happy for them.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: ChiBitCTy on October 03, 2020, 07:33:15 AM
See the thing is not everything is dependent on the US , most countries are certainly capable of taking care of themselves, even though the US dollar is one of the most important asset in the world but we cannot really rely on anything right at that moment since coronavirus have shifted the economy in ways that we cannot reset. People have already sold their assets and are investing in cryptocurrencies. People are already okay with the fact that US is not the superpower anymore, therefore I do believe that in the future maybe some other countries will take over , since right now it's about surviving, keeping the economy stable and people safe , US economy going down is the least of the worries we should have , rather think about the underdeveloped countries which were struggling from way before.

No, most people are absolutely not selling their assets and buying cryptocurrencies. Most people are low risk takers.  Most don't know a damn thing about how crypto works, and those that "invest" in crypto for the most part still hold other assets, and most often crypto is only a small % of their overall portfolio.  

How can people be okay with the US not being the "superpower" anymore when that's not even true? It absolutely without question still is.  The most efficient economy and stock market, strongest military whos budget vastly exceeds most of the worlds combined, and unlike much of the Eastern world that's way too overpopulated, behind in many modern societal norms that encourage economic advancement ..the freedom granted in the US is what has enabled so many business owners to thrive like they could no where else .. such as Elon Musk who recently stated "America is the land of opportunity – there is no other country where I could have done this". China is far too over populated, lies about everything, a dictatorship, has vast amounts of "ghost cities" and don't allow for many basic freedoms. Japan and Germany the 3rd and 4th largest economies are too small to take over as the super power ( as well as any other Euro country ), and India faces many of the same problems China does.

The US economy going down means the entire world's will too ( many own significant US assets such as treasury bonds/ stocks etc and heavily rely on US exports ).  So yes, it's a very big worry for everyone.



Polo- No France does not have the worlds highest gold reserves.  Not even close.  This is also just what we know, as all countries lie about their reserves in some fashion ( some even hold some fake gold, like China recently found out) - http://www.usfunds.com/investor-library/frank-talk/top-10-countries-with-largest-gold-reserves/ .

As for military might, again, not even close.  They are simply too small to ever be the worlds top military or economic super power.  They spend roughly 60 billion a year on military expenditure, where as China spends roughly 200 billion and the US 700 billion. Population of 60 million vs 1.4 billion and 240 million.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Haunebu on October 03, 2020, 08:08:02 AM
What a load of crap. What is up with all these threads these days stating that USA isn't at the top anymore and it has been replaced by China, France etc? It's like people from different countries are trying to promote their own countries taking advantage of the pandemic.

I am not an American citizen, but even I understand the clear truth which is the USA can't be kicked off the top that easily. They have been at the top of the pyramid for multiple reasons and that probably won't change anytime soon.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Fullbear2222 on January 13, 2024, 03:09:34 PM
Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.




Yes Congrats


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: GiftedMAN on January 15, 2024, 02:51:34 PM
What a load of crap. What is up with all these threads these days stating that USA isn't at the top anymore and it has been replaced by China, France etc? It's like people from different countries are trying to promote their own countries taking advantage of the pandemic.

I am not an American citizen, but even I understand the clear truth which is the USA can't be kicked off the top that easily. They have been at the top of the pyramid for multiple reasons and that probably won't change anytime soon.
There are so many nonsense write some persons keep writing that does not make any sense at all. Why do op ever think that China or whatever country would dominate the world as the world powerful country. I don't think any of these agenda could ever work ever though the American government would lose it power to another country, I don't think it will be China. I see China as fast developing country and it will take time for China to have the muscles to confront the United States. Things could change hand anything and that time may take several years to come.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: btc78 on January 17, 2024, 12:59:31 AM
the American government would lose it power to another country, I don't think it will be China.

USA and China has been in each other’s throats for who knows how long now USA is even helping countries that China wants to invade which makes it harder for China to make a move on those countries an improve their status

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I see China as fast developing country and it will take time for China to have the muscles to confront the United States. Things could change hand anything and that time may take several years to come.

China has already developed they already had their time and it might even look like that it is decreasing now


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: kryptqnick on January 17, 2024, 02:08:32 PM
Well, more than 3 years later, we can analyse the op's wild allegation. The USA is still number one economically and politically, although it's losing some ground politically, I believe, as we're moving towards a multipolar world. Economically, China is still #2, and still has a pretty long way to go to beat the US, not to mention that there seem to be some economic struggles that are just starting for China. France is a little over 10% of what the US has, so it's just ridiculous to say that it can beat the US economically. Russia and France are in pretty bad relations, probably the worst over a long time, because of the full-scale invasion of Russia into Ukraine.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on January 17, 2024, 04:20:42 PM
Well, more than 3 years later, we can analyse the op's wild allegation. The USA is still number one economically and politically, although it's losing some ground politically, I believe, as we're moving towards a multipolar world. Economically, China is still #2, and still has a pretty long way to go to beat the US, not to mention that there seem to be some economic struggles that are just starting for China. France is a little over 10% of what the US has, so it's just ridiculous to say that it can beat the US economically. Russia and France are in pretty bad relations, probably the worst over a long time, because of the full-scale invasion of Russia into Ukraine.
It shocked me.when I saw how long this post has been and it proves a powerful point that only the time has told.
Three years later and the world was shook by Covid 19 virus and we are still seeing a new world order in the form of the BRICS countries and their intended use of the  Chinese Yen as the official currency. More countries are joining and their territory expanding to sooth its goal.

Well, the USA is still the economic boss and the dollar has more than thrashed my own countries currency into the gutter. With exchange rates now higher than before, the Russian invasion of Ukraine which led to war and changed the relationship between countries, is but a least of how much is happening around the world mostly as regards new alliances being formed between businesses and corporate bodies as well as political positions.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Cookdata on January 17, 2024, 07:54:39 PM
Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.

You are not saying facts here because I don't see any source to all what you have said so far. You think because of this, France has the jaw to be the next leading country after US? You are overwhelmed with what you are reading online but let me burst your bubble, US is way smart than you will ever think of, they are 3 step ahead of everyone in this leading games and it's not everything the do you will see online, forget all th things you watch on TV, what they do is more than what they show you.

During war, golf reserve might not do much except for military acquisition but what is their army going to feed on. Don't you know that if you want to win your opponents in a war faster, the first thing is too block their source of food and water, I'm sure US strive well by modern farming and agriculture, I don't know for France aside from football.

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The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!

Putin was ones a passionate friend with the US and they still do but they are base on mutual agreement between them, nobody break it but it doesn't stop each of them from making friends from other country, it's just that Russia doesn't see your enemies as their enemies. They will gladly make any link up and agreement to benefit them, they can join France like you said but for their own benefit, nothing more than this.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: 0t3p0t on January 18, 2024, 05:27:35 AM
What a load of crap. What is up with all these threads these days stating that USA isn't at the top anymore and it has been replaced by China, France etc? It's like people from different countries are trying to promote their own countries taking advantage of the pandemic.

I am not an American citizen, but even I understand the clear truth which is the USA can't be kicked off the top that easily. They have been at the top of the pyramid for multiple reasons and that probably won't change anytime soon.
Yeah exactly. I am not from the USA as well but based on the current event it is undoubtedly that the US will still be at the top for the next generation to come. Just recently Chinese president admitted some sort of difficulty issues on their country.

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Some enterprises had a tough time. Some people had difficulty finding jobs and meeting basic needs...
-Xi Jinping

Link: https://www.businessinsider.com/china-economy-gdp-xi-jinping-admits-tough-time-enterprises-jobs-2024-1?amp

With regards to France, it shows that France's economy is one of the worlds largest and strongest as stated here on this article please see for reference:

Link: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/france#country-ranking-details


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Kakmakr on January 18, 2024, 05:52:26 AM
How sure are you about that?

The annual GDP growth rate of France is only 6.8% and the government debt is 98.1% of GDP.

I cannot see how a country that are mostly boosted by tourism income, can be the strongest economy in the world?

The only thing that might help them are the foreign trade, because the value of the imports and exports comprise of 63% of their country's GDP.

Edit : I only saw now that this thread was started in 2020... 🙄


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Abiky on January 18, 2024, 11:42:55 AM
Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.

The USA's downfall was long predicted by economic experts. Empires don't last forever, after all. Take a look at how Rome went from being a "glorious empire" to "rubble" after a few centuries. The same can happen with the US, paving the way for another country (a superpower) to take over the world. While France has taken measures to solidify its diplomatic and economic stance worldwide, I don't think it's capable of leading the way for a "new world order".

China is more suited for this, especially when it's currently the world's second-largest economy. It has strong relations with Russia, and Arab countries. Most of the things we use today are produced in China itself. Imagine what impact will China have in the world with the CNY as the leading world currency. The USA's days are numbered as countries accelerate "de-dollarization" efforts. Who knows how long will it take for the complete downfall of American hegemony? ;D


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: DrBeer on January 19, 2024, 08:46:48 PM
The USA's downfall was long predicted by economic experts. Empires don't last forever, after all. Take a look at how Rome went from being a "glorious empire" to "rubble" after a few centuries. The same can happen with the US, paving the way for another country (a superpower) to take over the world. While France has taken measures to solidify its diplomatic and economic stance worldwide, I don't think it's capable of leading the way for a "new world order".

China is more suited for this, especially when it's currently the world's second-largest economy. It has strong relations with Russia, and Arab countries. Most of the things we use today are produced in China itself. Imagine what impact will China have in the world with the CNY as the leading world currency. The USA's days are numbered as countries accelerate "de-dollarization" efforts. Who knows how long will it take for the complete downfall of American hegemony? ;D

I was born in the USSR :)
And all my life, every day on the news, I heard the mantras: "The West is rotting and degenerating", "The dollar is worthless", "The Western economy is not competitive", "Capitalism is totalitarianism and oppression of the common people", "Very soon we will see the collapse of the USA", "Very soon we will see the collapse of the Western world".... I was told this in school in history and poltiinformation, every week, for all 120 years :)

And do you know how it all ended ?  ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Casdinyard on January 20, 2024, 11:01:29 PM
Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.


It's been years and while America is definitely weakening I don't see this "America is losing to x country" narrative.

Every country's struggling right now, even those that we think could contend against USA like China. It's say that it's almost to the point of propagandism that we're seeing stuff like this and it grinds my gears cause just like the "bitcoin is dead" notion it's like every time we see something go wrong with America we immediately assume it's gonna fall next year or whatever. As I said, there's clear signs of struggle on the US's side and it's likely that within our lifetimes we see them handing over the superpower crown to another country, but to immediately assume with specific timeframes that it's going to fall to this country or that state is just a bit annoying at this point lol.

Russia's in no position to set a war against the west when they can't even finish the war they started against Ukraine, Israel's busy fighting Palestine, The EU is dealing with their own problems that they can't even fix themselves, China housing and economic bubble is expected to pop anytime soon, Japan's economy is dwindling and so does its birth rate, and people in that country are killing themselves, while US is left to fend off for itself but it doesn't matter when the whole world is burning anyways.



Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Abiky on January 25, 2024, 11:41:19 AM
It's been years and while America is definitely weakening I don't see this "America is losing to x country" narrative.

Every country's struggling right now, even those that we think could contend against USA like China. It's say that it's almost to the point of propagandism that we're seeing stuff like this and it grinds my gears cause just like the "bitcoin is dead" notion it's like every time we see something go wrong with America we immediately assume it's gonna fall next year or whatever. As I said, there's clear signs of struggle on the US's side and it's likely that within our lifetimes we see them handing over the superpower crown to another country, but to immediately assume with specific timeframes that it's going to fall to this country or that state is just a bit annoying at this point lol.

Russia's in no position to set a war against the west when they can't even finish the war they started against Ukraine, Israel's busy fighting Palestine, The EU is dealing with their own problems that they can't even fix themselves, China housing and economic bubble is expected to pop anytime soon, Japan's economy is dwindling and so does its birth rate, and people in that country are killing themselves, while US is left to fend off for itself but it doesn't matter when the whole world is burning anyways.

I believe America will fall at a slow and steady pace. It might take 1-2 decades before this happens. As you've said before, the USA is not the only country that's having trouble. Other countries are also struggling to get their economy back on its feet. Rising geopolitical tensions will only slow down the process of a global recovery.

Whichever country manages to act wisely, will be the one that will take the reigns as the leading superpower in the future. It could be China, Russia, or the EU. We can't tell for sure what will happen in the long run. One would think a US downfall would result in catastrophic consequences for the whole world. Especially when most countries are tied to the USD. The shift to a new world order will be painful. But it will happen whenever you like it or not. I'd accumulate as much BTC and Gold as possible before "all hell breaks loose". Who knows what lies ahead for human society?  :-\


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: DrBeer on January 26, 2024, 01:12:26 PM
Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!

By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.


I re-read it again, tell me, I got a version that you are preparing a set of speeches for April 1 :)
Seriously !

I have no complaints about France, moreover, I really like this country, and I have been there often before, I especially like the French province. I even studied French at school and college :)

But making such statements, also dragging in Russia, and positioning France as a new world leader is, to put it mildly, not very serious.

It seems to me that you need to study the real situation in France and the other countries you listed, and reformulate your thought


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: pooya87 on January 26, 2024, 02:47:51 PM
By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.
This is a good example of how passage of time proves a lot of stuff.

It's a silly topic created by someone 4 years ago thinking in a year France could be the biggest whatever. 3 years is past from that deadline and French situation is worse that it was in 2020. France national debt has grown by more than a trillion, with $770 billion difference between GDP and the debt and rising.
Don't even get me started on French military ;D

By the way, there is nothing wrong with being wrong. The problem is if you didn't learn from your mistakes...


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Argoo on February 01, 2024, 04:42:31 AM

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Will Putin join France very soon? This cannot be even theoretically. Putin, as the president of Russia, wants to have geopolitical influence on European countries, including France. He started the war against Ukraine ultimately for this purpose. Now France and Germany are very actively helping Ukraine defend itself from Russian aggression. Therefore, there can be no alliances between France and Russia in the near future, especially in the military sphere.

As for the United States, in my opinion, it is unlikely to lose its position as a world leader in the near future. And France is not a very strong rival for the United States in this regard.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: smelody on February 01, 2024, 01:38:19 PM
It's very significant and alarming about USA diplomatic power are gradually down. Now a day their policy does't work in development country. reason is clear. Around the world they are making useless policy that have opposite the mankind. yes till today they are the super power in the world. They are losting their image and support in cause of war and basically they are supporting Israel putting genocide in Palestine. How do you support the genocide that goes on in Palestine? Even they could have stopped the fighters of Ukraine and Russia if they wanted, but they did not. Recently France taken some policy between developed good relations with many countries of the world given their diplomatic approach and this will increase their power.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Litzki1990 on February 01, 2024, 01:43:38 PM
When a country has a good diplomatic relationship with another country, the two countries will be economically prosperous due to the good relationship between the two countries. Before the Russia and Ukraine war, Russia was able to establish good diplomatic relations with most of the countries in the world due to which their economic status was quite strong, although now some sanctions have damaged their diplomatic relations with some countries. USA is one of the most powerful countries economically but due to political issues, diplomatic relations with many countries have been damaged due to which their economy has some impact as a business. 
The French government is trying to increase their trade and they have established new diplomatic relations with some new countries.  Since they have the largest number of countries to do business with and have the richest reserve fund, it is only natural that they will be the strongest economic country at one time.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: serveria.com on February 02, 2024, 08:03:53 AM
Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france!  
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!!  
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.

Frankly, I don't see France becoming a global leader in foreseeable future. The only country which could do it in the next 20-50years is China. Yes, China is also plagued with problems nowadays, but which country isn't?

Actually France doesn't excel in any area at the moment: they have huge taxes, immigration issues, aging population, low military potential. Gold reserves and diplomacy won't help much, France needs some deeper reform before it can become a global leader.    


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Mauser on February 05, 2024, 10:18:55 AM
Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.

Maybe I missed something, but there is no way that France is going to overtake the USA as military and economic superpower. It's true that France did relatively well after the covid pandemic, but we need to look at it from their starting positions. France is one a completely different level from USA, they are not even close to be a real threat. Just look at all the political madness happening right now. The farmers are protesting and closed of Toulouse completely and I don't see Macron ending this any time soon. Than the whole immigration mess in Paris. Also, remember the strike of the garbage collectors letting Paris sink in trash? As soon as France reaches a higher level of economic output the population will demand higher social spending. So, relatively to other countries France might be doing really well, but overtaking the USA is just not realistic in my opinion. France is just a much smaller country with less people than the USA, an alliance with Canada is not going to change much on that.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Fullbear2222 on February 28, 2024, 07:02:45 PM
Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.




We here now and again your predictions Went true france now very active Even in ukraine situation.
How did you know so many accurate things ??


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Fortify on February 28, 2024, 08:34:23 PM
Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.

Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.

The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.

Congrats, there are many big contenders here in this section, but that has to be one of the dumbest things written in the economic part of the forum so far this year. France did have a long and illustrious history, that is no doubt and very admirable, however they are no where near a contender to countries like the USA or China. Frances power now comes from being part of a strong European Union, which has plenty of chance to be the strongest trading bloc on the planet. The USA seems to be in a bit of a moral decline at the moment with Republicans chipping away at so many well established and sensible laws, just because they have the backing of idiots. China had a bright future until Xi Dimping came along and decided to go back to authoritarian self destruction.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Hispo on February 29, 2024, 12:41:52 AM
Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.

Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.

The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.

Congrats, there are many big contenders here in this section, but that has to be one of the dumbest things written in the economic part of the forum so far this year. France did have a long and illustrious history, that is no doubt and very admirable, however they are no where near a contender to countries like the USA or China. Frances power now comes from being part of a strong European Union, which has plenty of chance to be the strongest trading bloc on the planet. The USA seems to be in a bit of a moral decline at the moment with Republicans chipping away at so many well established and sensible laws, just because they have the backing of idiots. China had a bright future until Xi Dimping came along and decided to go back to authoritarian self destruction.

I don't even know why Op would pick up France as an emerging superpower in the planet when they do not have as many energy resources or economical volume as other countries like China or the United States do. I am not in any way, shape or form trying to under-estimate France, it is a country which certainly do much of its part on making the European Union an important block of countries which moves much money across the planet, but one cannot simply expect France to become more relevant than countries which are several times bigger than her and move hundreds of times more money and merchandise than her, the only branch which France can easily beat China, would be tourism.

Also, I could be wrong, but as far as I recall China was in her way to become a cyber-dictatorship way before Xi Jinping became the General Security of the Chinese Communist Party. He just happens to be a politician pretty much in favor of controlling the whole population of the country through the use of technology, like biometrics, which is very scary.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Briankimp1 on February 29, 2024, 03:18:52 AM
Many of You Don't know this but france will take over to be world power force of military and Economic power house.

Last year france have secured their gold reserves most france have world biggest Economic reserves now.


Also france have established good diplomatic relationships all over the world.


The  Country wich has world biggest reserves and best diplomatic methods are the world leader.
Congratulation from me france is new world leader

The Putin will join with france very soon...  And Germany will be also france biggest allies.

Every world important decisions will go trhu france! 
The Quebec state of canada will join the Forces with france.
The anglo saxon power is finished!! 
The france will have so much power that Even China will have to respect france!


By the 2021  world biggest leader and military force will be france with best diplomatic methods.




Going through this thread and realizing the time duration it only affirms the dominance of the United States even more, as at 2022 America had over a hundred thousand plus active military personnel’s over a hundred and seventy countries around the world, they are currently the major supporters of Ukraine in their war against Russia the Ukraine president has said if the American aid stops they would loose the war.

This only goes to further prove the dominance of the Americans globally there’s always been a cry by other global powerhouses trying to lay claim of the title world leader but there are just too many ways the US has the upper hand to be Frank the dollar isn’t doing so great in the global market especially due to the creation of Brics which has aided China and Russian the most economically now for the first time in a long time countries are trading in currencies beside the U.S. dollar for example for the first time in 48years Saudi Arabia is trading in currencies beside the U.S. dollar.
I believe we might only get the see America weak but beneath that weakness will come a planned uproar from the world’s leading country once again time will tell...


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: harapan on February 29, 2024, 02:15:59 PM
See the thing is not everything is dependent on the US , most countries are certainly capable of taking care of themselves, even though the US dollar is one of the most important asset in the world but we cannot really rely on anything right at that moment since coronavirus have shifted the economy in ways that we cannot reset. People have already sold their assets and are investing in cryptocurrencies. People are already okay with the fact that US is not the superpower anymore, therefore I do believe that in the future maybe some other countries will take over , since right now it's about surviving, keeping the economy stable and people safe , US economy going down is the least of the worries we should have , rather think about the underdeveloped countries which were struggling from way before.

The US dollar is the strength of almost every country,and right now we can't fully rely on it for economical survival due to  some
economical factors on ground.The US economy is shaky right now and that's why people are looking for better options like cryptocurrencies.
 Whether USA remains the superpower or not we can still opt out to better alternatives and choices to cope with as human beings.

I don't think i have a problem with France holding the superpower,and there are several countries that wants to be recognized as the world's superpower but whichever case as it may be,there should be a smooth running of the global markets,leading to a significant difference in the economic system at large.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Abiky on March 01, 2024, 06:24:32 PM
The US dollar is the strength of almost every country,and right now we can't fully rely on it for economical survival due to  some
economical factors on ground.The US economy is shaky right now and that's why people are looking for better options like cryptocurrencies.
 Whether USA remains the superpower or not we can still opt out to better alternatives and choices to cope with as human beings.

I don't think i have a problem with France holding the superpower,and there are several countries that wants to be recognized as the world's superpower but whichever case as it may be,there should be a smooth running of the global markets,leading to a significant difference in the economic system at large.

The only way there would be a "smooth running of the global markets" is if geopolitical tensions and wars come down to a halt. And I don't see that happening anytime soon. Until Russia stops its invasion of Ukraine, and the Israel-Hamas conflict comes to an end, things will only get worse. The US has been showing signs of weakness for quite some time now. I believe the Biden administration has been the worse by far in its handling of foreign policy, the economy, and domestic issues.

One would hope a change in leadership would make the US stronger in the long run. Otherwise, we can say bye-bye to the US as the world's leading superpower. Its replacement could be either China, Russia, or the EU itself (in which France is gaining traction). We're living in uncertain times, so lets hope for the best. :)


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Argoo on March 02, 2024, 11:35:18 AM
Well, more than 3 years later, we can analyse the op's wild allegation. The USA is still number one economically and politically, although it's losing some ground politically, I believe, as we're moving towards a multipolar world. Economically, China is still #2, and still has a pretty long way to go to beat the US, not to mention that there seem to be some economic struggles that are just starting for China. France is a little over 10% of what the US has, so it's just ridiculous to say that it can beat the US economically. Russia and France are in pretty bad relations, probably the worst over a long time, because of the full-scale invasion of Russia into Ukraine.
We can agree that the US is now gradually losing its long-standing position as a world leader and that the Biden administration is doing a much worse job on foreign policy. Biden has proven hesitant about US assistance to Ukraine in defending itself against Russian aggression. In addition, the confrontation between Biden and Trump in the election campaign led to the delay of current military assistance to Ukraine through its blocking by Trumpists in Congress, and this makes the United States appear to be an unreliable ally in the eyes of other states.

At the same time, French President Emmanuel Macron gave a press conference on February 25 following the results of the Conference in support of Ukraine and during the conversation he admitted the possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine to help Ukraine repel a Russian attack. Later, he also added that his position regarding the possibility of introducing Western troops into Ukraine is balanced and thoughtful.
https://24tv.ua/ru/makron-zajavil-o-vozmozhnosti-vvoda-vojsk-nato-ukrainu-objasnil_n2505243

Against the backdrop of US indecision, this raises the authority of France, especially since the Netherlands, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia and Canada supported him in this.
https://informator.ua/ru/pyat-stran-nato-dopuskayut-otpravku-svoih-voennyh-v-ukrainu-no-est-uslovie

But France is still very far from becoming world leader.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: pooya87 on March 02, 2024, 12:57:50 PM
At the same time, French President Emmanuel Macron gave a press conference on February 25 following the results of the Conference in support of Ukraine and during the conversation he admitted the possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine to help Ukraine repel a Russian attack.
I don't follow this closely but didn't all NATO members already say this was a lie and they had no plans on deploying any troops in Ukraine?

In any case neither France has what it takes to be taken seriously as a power on a global scale nor Macron has the capability or the charisma to lead the country into such a state. Not to mention that US will not allow them to grow in strength ;)


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Argoo on March 17, 2024, 08:29:16 PM
At the same time, French President Emmanuel Macron gave a press conference on February 25 following the results of the Conference in support of Ukraine and during the conversation he admitted the possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine to help Ukraine repel a Russian attack.
I don't follow this closely but didn't all NATO members already say this was a lie and they had no plans on deploying any troops in Ukraine?

In any case neither France has what it takes to be taken seriously as a power on a global scale nor Macron has the capability or the charisma to lead the country into such a state. Not to mention that US will not allow them to grow in strength ;)
What does it mean that the US does not allow France to increase its military power? This is exactly what is welcomed among NATO members. On the contrary, a scandal recently erupted in the United States when Trump said that many NATO members in Europe do not allocate two percent of their GDP to defense needs, hoping for US assistance in the event of a military threat.

In addition, the French Parliament on Thursday, March 14, approved a multi-billion dollar increase in military spending over the next 7 years against the backdrop of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The draft military programming law, which includes 413 billion euros in spending for 2024-2030, received final approval from the National Assembly, the lower house of parliament, on Wednesday by a vote of 244 to 37.
  President Emmanuel Macron has pushed to increase the military budget to 413 billion euros, the biggest increase in spending in half a century. The new budget is more than a third higher than the previous military spending plan of 295 billion euros for 2019-2025.
Do you think that in this case France received consent to increase its military budget from the United States?
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/rus/news/2023/07/13/7165723/


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Fullbear2222 on April 28, 2024, 11:40:41 AM
At the same time, French President Emmanuel Macron gave a press conference on February 25 following the results of the Conference in support of Ukraine and during the conversation he admitted the possibility of introducing NATO troops into Ukraine to help Ukraine repel a Russian attack.
I don't follow this closely but didn't all NATO members already say this was a lie and they had no plans on deploying any troops in Ukraine?

In any case neither France has what it takes to be taken seriously as a power on a global scale nor Macron has the capability or the charisma to lead the country into such a state. Not to mention that US will not allow them to grow in strength ;)
What does it mean that the US does not allow France to increase its military power? This is exactly what is welcomed among NATO members. On the contrary, a scandal recently erupted in the United States when Trump said that many NATO members in Europe do not allocate two percent of their GDP to defense needs, hoping for US assistance in the event of a military threat.

In addition, the French Parliament on Thursday, March 14, approved a multi-billion dollar increase in military spending over the next 7 years against the backdrop of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The draft military programming law, which includes 413 billion euros in spending for 2024-2030, received final approval from the National Assembly, the lower house of parliament, on Wednesday by a vote of 244 to 37.
  President Emmanuel Macron has pushed to increase the military budget to 413 billion euros, the biggest increase in spending in half a century. The new budget is more than a third higher than the previous military spending plan of 295 billion euros for 2019-2025.
Do you think that in this case France received consent to increase its military budget from the United States?
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/rus/news/2023/07/13/7165723/


I allmost ignored but when. I look at news macron and russia head lines.... I see now that OP predicted something here and we see now france are very active in this situation


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: peter0425 on May 02, 2024, 08:12:49 PM
The only way there would be a "smooth running of the global markets" is if geopolitical tensions and wars come down to a halt. And I don't see that happening anytime soon. Until Russia stops its invasion of Ukraine, and the Israel-Hamas conflict comes to an end, things will only get worse.

These are not the only conflicts in the world as of the moment.

These might be the biggest ones right now but our world is full of nations in conflict with each other. I feel like all nations have an enemy or two at least. Some countries are not exactly violent with each other (just yet) but there are lots of tensions among different continents. If one should break out into a war we would all be in trouble.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: tsaroz on May 02, 2024, 09:31:03 PM
The only way there would be a "smooth running of the global markets" is if geopolitical tensions and wars come down to a halt. And I don't see that happening anytime soon. Until Russia stops its invasion of Ukraine, and the Israel-Hamas conflict comes to an end, things will only get worse.

These are not the only conflicts in the world as of the moment.

These might be the biggest ones right now but our world is full of nations in conflict with each other. I feel like all nations have an enemy or two at least. Some countries are not exactly violent with each other (just yet) but there are lots of tensions among different continents. If one should break out into a war we would all be in trouble.

War are actually good for economy and they are needed to have a rapid shift on geopolitical balance.
I don't see US losing its economic and military power anytime soon. Or France taking over. Or Russia or China. France had been a US puppet for quite a time and they are too depended on US. They are in words trying to get on their feet but I don't see that happening anytime soon. And as they try to decouple with US, their economy would suffer further.
Another reason why Europe can not challenge US anytime soon is geography. US if controlled the limited border, is geographically isolated by Atlantic and Pacific oceans, don't have a potent nation by its side to threaten it while Europe is a hotpot of conflicting nations which would have an eternal conflict one way or other.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Abiky on May 03, 2024, 03:28:16 PM
War are actually good for economy and they are needed to have a rapid shift on geopolitical balance.
I don't see US losing its economic and military power anytime soon. Or France taking over. Or Russia or China. France had been a US puppet for quite a time and they are too depended on US. They are in words trying to get on their feet but I don't see that happening anytime soon. And as they try to decouple with US, their economy would suffer further.
Another reason why Europe can not challenge US anytime soon is geography. US if controlled the limited border, is geographically isolated by Atlantic and Pacific oceans, don't have a potent nation by its side to threaten it while Europe is a hotpot of conflicting nations which would have an eternal conflict one way or other.

All good things come to an end. The US hegemony can't last forever. Empires like Babylon, Rome, and Greek saw their demise centuries ago. American decline is right before our eyes. It's just a slow process that will take years to complete. "De-dollarization" by some countries is just the start.

Europe would be better off distancing itself from the US for its own good. Either way, there's no denying that a US downfall will affect the global economy. One can only hope China nor Russia become part of the New World Order. Who knows what the future will bring?  :-\


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: Fullbear2222 on May 09, 2024, 12:29:36 PM
War are actually good for economy and they are needed to have a rapid shift on geopolitical balance.
I don't see US losing its economic and military power anytime soon. Or France taking over. Or Russia or China. France had been a US puppet for quite a time and they are too depended on US. They are in words trying to get on their feet but I don't see that happening anytime soon. And as they try to decouple with US, their economy would suffer further.
Another reason why Europe can not challenge US anytime soon is geography. US if controlled the limited border, is geographically isolated by Atlantic and Pacific oceans, don't have a potent nation by its side to threaten it while Europe is a hotpot of conflicting nations which would have an eternal conflict one way or other.

All good things come to an end. The US hegemony can't last forever. Empires like Babylon, Rome, and Greek saw their demise centuries ago. American decline is right before our eyes. It's just a slow process that will take years to complete. "De-dollarization" by some countries is just the start.

Europe would be better off distancing itself from the US for its own good. Either way, there's no denying that a US downfall will affect the global economy. One can only hope China nor Russia become part of the New World Order. Who knows what the future will bring?  :-\


If we look latest news and hesdlines we can see france is active on this.
I been watching op predictions i have to ask what op knows what we don't know ? If op shares more we can become smart :)
Because Op Also said biden Will win and also said about Market bull run exacly time 100% accurate.
I start think that op has access to better info


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: pooya87 on May 10, 2024, 02:59:53 PM
If we look latest news and hesdlines we can see france is active on this.
France isn't "active" in anything. They are just being kicked out of Africa and losing $500 billion dollar that they were earning every day by enslaving Africans. Since Russia is one of the actors helping Africa kick France out, they are trying to increase the pressure on Russia inside Ukraine to try to strike a deal over Africa and get back some of their colonies and continue robbing Africa.

Otherwise French military is weaker than what they pretend. :D


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: oktana on May 11, 2024, 12:58:28 AM
While I do not know so much about France’s current position in regard to this, I want to mention that overthrowing USA is a lot and it’s more than just having the biggest military force. I do not think they have attained it but nonetheless, USA is more than just that. The name alone has an impact of being seen as the leader of the world. You can’t just throw them under the bus so easily.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: bitgolden on May 12, 2024, 07:25:51 AM
Honestly, every nation in the world that became the biggest eventually ended up going lower and lower and eventually not be that great. However, that doesn't happen within one lifetime span usually, it usually takes a lot longer, centuries. So, could we see USA becoming smaller in our life time? Is that just so happens to hit right now when we are alive? Or will it be another 200 years later?

I have absolutely no idea and can't know. I do agree that eventually one day in the future it will happen but I have no idea if that is in 20 years or 200 years which is why I wouldn't really hold my breath and expect them to get worse. I think the clearest situation here is the fact that we are going to end up seeing things change with time, and other nations just get more leverage over USA.


Title: Re: USA Economic and power status will go lower new Country will take over
Post by: tygeade on May 12, 2024, 08:48:20 PM
Honestly, every nation in the world that became the biggest eventually ended up going lower and lower and eventually not be that great. However, that doesn't happen within one lifetime span usually, it usually takes a lot longer, centuries. So, could we see USA becoming smaller in our life time? Is that just so happens to hit right now when we are alive? Or will it be another 200 years later?

I have absolutely no idea and can't know. I do agree that eventually one day in the future it will happen but I have no idea if that is in 20 years or 200 years which is why I wouldn't really hold my breath and expect them to get worse. I think the clearest situation here is the fact that we are going to end up seeing things change with time, and other nations just get more leverage over USA.
This is what I agree with as well, we are seeing that most nations are getting weaker, which is the power that USA has right now, if there was another nation that got super stronger while USA was getting worse, then we would definitely see that nation take over, but when you look at it every nation is getting worse and we should probably see USA getting worse while keeping that number one spot, I know that seems like not a likely thing in most parts of history but that is what we are seeing today.

This is why I agree that it may take decades, even centuries before anything else happens. Look at all the world powers in the world, none of them looks like they could rival USA at all turns, sure maybe better at some things, but be the power status that USA has.