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Why newbies who Don't know how to trade not invest in funds who trade now its very popular.
Instead of risking yourself?
Many investors now invest in funds who trade and pay  daily Weekly Monthly yearly Roi of investment. 

Its best way to make your income good!
Coz there is so many good traders who can trade good profits and they also have good whale inside informations about whale movements and new coins announcements!

For newbies its great way

No it's not especially in crypto space. There is absolutely no legality and no authority. How can a newbie entrust a trader with all his funds? What the guarantee that he would return the funds? For the kind of idea you are talking about there needs to be a protocol. Maybe a platform where in anyone can send their funds and from there the funds can be traded in market but withdrawal on the end of trader is not possible. But still there needs to be some high regulations for traders. WazirX an Indian exchange did start something of this sort but the traders weren't really able to fetch great profits simply because there are risk restrictions that investors set. You won't give your funds to anyone and tell him to take unlimited risk.

1. It's going to be difficult to find traders that actually has a good past record of trading profit.
2. Even if a certain trader's past records are pretty good, "Past performance is no guarantee of future results".
3. Personally, I trust my investments and I know what I'm capable of; simply because I've done extensive research on my investments. I'd assume the newbies will also have the same reasoning.

I guess it wont be hard for you to show these "good traders", that only close deal with profit, if you suggest people to use that. Give us some examples of a successful trader or a fund. Maybe I would even invest some pocket money into it.

Please, dont just google and drop here links, also dont name any youtubers. Would be nice to see these "good traders" and their cases of success.

From what i heard about bitcoin some says that generate a profit from it was can be huge as what we are expecting but i already have an idea also that generate a profit from it was not as easy as im expecting most especially generate a profit from trading. Trading for me was a riskiest thing that could be imagine in crypto. No assurance if you will going to win, no assurance if you can maintain if the amount that you've invested be still the same if ever or worst case scenerio to lost all of them. As what i have said it is not easy to gain profit in trading research, learning from past mistakes even learning from your losses would be your best teacher here.

It's precisely the reason why day trading is being shunned in a lot of communities, and why long-term investing is being recommended a lot more. In my opinion, it's a lot better to just invest in something you believe in, and at the same time, start a business that you're really interested in. That for me is a life a lot more worth living compared to staring at charts all day.

I think the best for a newbie is to let them trade their funds on their own. To let them learn from their own mistakes. Just advise them not to invest all of their funds if they're new in trading.
Right now, it's hard to trust your fund to other people, especially in the crypto world. And If I were one of the good traders, why would I accept others' funds If I can generate a good profit on my own?

Well, crypto currency trading is not something you just delve into because you make profits; you delve into crypto trading because you understand the risk, because you are capable to trade and you understand the strategies required to take profits from crypto currency trading.

Crypto currency trading is indeed a quick way to make profit; but also, it could bankrupt you in milliseconds; always do your own research before trading.

I think we all have better things to do then watching charts and losing money!!


Life and business is not Casino!!
When I Invest I Want my profit and Everybody Else!
While I invest and let the profeasionals Work with my money I enjoy the life!!
This advice I have newbies let the professionals trade your money You just Get small% but in the years You make Good profit You reinvest and make Even More cash out some% and repeat


We are not Here to gamble we game Here to make money!!

Actually trading is not easy ever for newbies. Where Senior traders also some times make mistakes and lose there newbies should not take risk i think. And thats why they did not make big amount investment here as they are very new in crypto trading. Too many own research and clarification need to be a successful trader so here only small investment can be prefer as an experiment.

thanks.

Because, almost all of them are fake and short term things that would be unsustainable and eventually exit scam with your money in their pockets? We all know who you are, you keep asking idiotic questions, your only aim probably is to troll people and bother everyone, there will eventually be a moment where either you will give up or you will be banned so all of this will stop.

But to everyone else who wonder the same thing, people do not put their money to other people because they could be fake and they do not want to get scammed, if they were so gullible they would put all their money into savings accounts into banks for an interest income as well but they are not, they know better and they came to bitcoin because they wanted to be their own banks.

Most people in the crypto space today prefer to trade  rather than invest in ponzi and money doubling schemes disguising as "investment platforms" because when trading, you're well aware of the risks involved including the high volatility in crypto markets and unusual price movements from time to time. But with these so called investment platform, nothing is certain. You don't even the company offering these insane rois or where they're getting the profits to payout to investors.

Thanks to the introduction of DeFi and projects that allows users to stake, its a more better option for people who don't like trading and only like to hold for long-term gains. Now they can do so while earning some income back aka "passive income". This is 100x better compared to get rich quick schemes.

For me, trading is not for everybody, I agree with that.
But there are people out there who want to become independent, they want to learn by all their self, they want their own selves to earn money alone, without other people.

Did you know if you do what you said OP, invest your funds to other people? You may be lost it immediately since you are giving your money to other people, so they can decide if they will run those funds, you can't find them anymore, so the risk is extremely high.

When you learn to trade by yourself, yes I admit, it is extremely difficult, you may lose a lot of money along the run, but the learnings you are getting are precious and it will help you to become a successful trader.

Trusting someone with your money is very hard nowadays and I wont recommend this kind of strategy, remember those who promise big return every month is probably a scam, so newbies should not bite the trap.

Trading is not easy, this is why if you have no experience and idea about it, better not to trade that much and put it first on a good coins while you are on a process of learning how to trade. There’s no more great way for a newbie to earn, learn the process and there is no shortcut for that.

Definitely not a good idea. Newbies are just increasing the risks of losing on that way. It's basically putting their money on something they didn't know if it will yield a good profit in return.

Those people who claimed to have inside information about whale movement and shows accurate signals are all sh*t.

A real and professional traders are too busy to make a sideline like that.

Trading is very risky if you start trading without much preparation. Yes it's more advisable to invest first in your potential coins while working on your trading plans. Extensive research and a continuous study on trading will help you to avoid losses as much as possible once you are already in trading. But i guess the best teacher would still be your own experience. Losses will often happen but it will surely teach you valuable lessons.

Can you point us to one of these funds?

I remember many of the crypto dabblings run by proper legacy heavyweights often report results that are much, much worse than the general market. It's like comparing actively managed stock funds to passive trackers. A lot of the time the tracker does a whole lot better.

Any fund offered by any crypto no mark is basically guaranteed to be a crock of shit.

Learning shouldn't be rush, and for a newbie they need to open their mind for suggestions to which is reliable and applicable. The funds must be used properly for investment in order to generate a passive income. I had a friend who've invested with ponzi scheme using fiat money, which resulted to scam all of his capital. Without hesitation we may fall unto traps of scammers through promises of bigger roi, just like what happened to the friend of mine.
My advice is to be vigilant and do a fact checking before engaging ourselves into something impossible for a business that involves money.

Invest in trades? You mean you advice newbies to put their money in copy trading, or trading professionals? It's not advisable to do that, they can't risk their money especially when they are just new in crypto trading. We are all been there (as a starter in trading) but then if we  (experienced trader) collect all knowledge, tools then they can do that too.

If a newbie is determined to learned, they can trade by themselves even without entrusting their money with other trading investing platforms.

Fixed returns means either they will be scam or not profitable to the investor.

Newbies means they don't have knowledge that is why they don't know how to invest or trade.

When your nonsense questions will be stopped?

It is noteworthy to know that there's no central authority on trading especially when it comes to crypto trading. There's no one who has a perfect record of trading. Why then would you want to risk your money for this when there is no guarantee that you'd collect your profits.
The only reason newbies will succumb to this fast and easy way of making money is because they do not want to go through the stress of having to learn and study what it takes to be a successful trader.
It is advisable to learn how to analyze the market and make trades yourself that give your money to these so called professional traders.

Of course, people wield reserves in many territories like hazardous huge profits or minor stable remuneration. Many people haven't the experience, proficiency, knowledge about the market, they are fit for secure and stable profit. Those people who are not able to manage risk or invest in portfolios are suitable for stable profit. The newbies in the primary level do not know what types of investments are safe for them. So they can use their funds to earn a stable profit.

Don't forget that we are also here to learn , what you said is too risky kind of investment trusting your money to other people is not a good choice of investing and you cannot rely on them always if you are looking for a long term plan of investment . if you know you can improve your self by having a knowledge and you know you can learn something why not do it on yourself instead of relying to other peoples skills.

You think good traders are those who have connections with whales? That's the one of the big mistakes I hear around in trading communities. I would never give my funds to other people for active management unless they are licensed professionals, not even talking about some shady internet guy who pretends to be a profitable trader.

If one is truly a profitable trader, it wouldn't make sense to look for financing from retail traders. :)

You mean on letting other traders do the work for you? Suggesting noobs on that way? It isn't really that recommended.

It is much better if you do trade with your own money rather than giving it to others which can potentially make alibis or reasons that they had lost it all but the truth is
that they are just lying just to rip you off.

Its not something new nowadays where copy trades or hedge funds is common but its not really a suggested way.

Trusting our money to other people is not a good idea, because the risk is very large. There is a possibility that we were deceived
and that person took our money away. We better learn to trade on our own, maybe we will initially lose the capital we have, because
we experience a loss. Even though in the end we both lost the money we had, but if lost because learning to trade yourself will gain
experience and knowledge about trading. Meanwhile, if you lose by others you will not get anything.

Maybe they think that when they are trading by themselves they will be able to make more profit than what they will from those platforms that handles the trade and gives them a share of the trade returns; they feel the platforms are not giving them enough. E.g. if the company is giving 20%, they feel if they do it by themselves they will be getting 40%, so they try to do it, and that’s why they will keep on losing.

I have seen a lot of platforms that noon traders can use to make things easy for them, but some of them don’t,  rather they are still looking for ways to trade by themselves and some are planning to be full-time traders.

Indeed. It would be better to trade on our own instead of entrusting it to someone else because you are still unsure if they can make a profit from it and return the money you gave them. So encouraging yourself to trade all your own is the best way. Even there is a risk that you could lose money, but we could still learn and understand trading with our own ability to create our own strategy and learn to predict the market's movement.

Don't go listing to this noobs, you're better off learning how to trade yourself. Most so called trading platform doesn't execute any trade instead feeds on the referral system to pay old platforms investors while they hope or attract them with mouth watering offers so they participate in spreading the words of the legitimacy of the platform to the community to attract more investors.

Basically they operate a ponzi scheme system disguise as them been progressional traders. In regards to learning from experience, you get none of that when you patronize this platforms as supposenly they were actually trading, they get all the funding, experience and also learn from some mistake that they'll work on and improved to becoming a more experience and professional trader.

While you manage the average returns they give you weekly or monthly as the contract made state. You're aslo placing the fate of your funds in the hands of a total stranger as there is every possibility of them performing and exit scam scheme if the market conditions doesn't favor their trading strategy.

This is the problem of others in this industry of having no confidence and patience to learn to trade crypto. The risks are big when you have the trust to trade your funds to others. Why? It is because you don't know anything, the process of how to grow your funds. You can be curious about how your money will grow, and it is good if you do it by yourself even you will encounter lose at least you can learn, remember mistakes can be corrected the next time you do trading.

I wonder why some trader prefer daily profit than yearly profit which can help you to rise well in your business. That's why I prefer using my money to invest for all those big big investment which their profit is not daily income but yearly income.
I think in the areas of market everybody know the one that is profit them pass either daily profit, monthly profit,and yearly as a trader it is your choice to prefer any of the income  that sweet you.

There will be many newbies who give their fund to someone who has got profit consistently in trading, maybe they have no time to learn a lot of strategies to trade. But I don't think for those who have much time to learn all about trading he will gives their money to other people, that is not good idea because he has an ability to be a trader. Became a trader someone must have a confident, yeah that is the important thing and the second he has to learn and know a lot of strategy based on them I'll assume that he is ready to trade. 

Generating profit was not that easy as you think it is. Whether om which market you go either stock and cypto market, it is both difficult to earn profit for it takes time and effort as well as considering other factors that can affect for a sudden change to occur affecting the expected results you were waiting for. There are many good traders but there is no such thing as a perfect trader so the risks are always there whenever you do trading for the fact that money in any forms is at stake.

Being unknowledgeable on how things work in trading is not an excuse to say that you are losing money because you do not know what you are doing which is exploiting the flaws that you must have make yourself first familiar and knowledgeable about the things you wish to do before you get to engage on it so you do not have to be reliant on other people and to lessen the possibility of getting caught into risks associated on working with crypto.

Simply, the higher you risk the higher you will be paid of. Newbies want an instant profits which the market can't give as of now. In fact even there is a bull in market. It does not assure as that we always win the market. Many newbies are entering the market without proper knowledge because they are attracted to the money that they can get specially if who introduce them will not say the risk potential.

Here you go:

1. The company gives a STOCK GUARANTEE.

2. All its trading accounts are audited on a monthly basis by one of the top auditors in the country. Full transparency.

3. Never had a losing month since its inception at the beginning of 2018.


There's no other crypto trading FUND in the world that does the above. This is a completely legit FUND.


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This will still beat F.D. easily, if you're looking at only a conservative 2% ROI/mth non-compounded. Remember, stock guarantee.

It is too risky to give or invest your funds to people who trade because the market is not moving stably. We don't know how good their trading skills, how they can make a profit from trading, so that can make us worried. But many of them invest in people who join in the trading groups, and they expect to have a nice profit. Just be careful if you decide to give your money to the trader, and make sure that you can get the right person to trade your funds.


I prefer to trade by myself, and although I don't have good trading skills, I want to learn more to find out how to analyze better. I don't mind losing some money in trading because that can help me learn more better. I know that trading can't give me an instant profit because the market will always fluctuate, and that is why I still decide to trade some money and make a profit while I can.

There's a big trust issue with this one, first of all you don't know who's that guy or you already know that guy and don't want to trust them. Its not good to depend to anyone, trading is easy to learn if you will focus on that so Newbies are doing their best to learn how to trade and its their choice. Beside, fixed profit is not available in this market especially when you trade so if you hear good profit return in just a month, that's alarming statement for me and it can be a scam.

I advise not to trust our funds to other people, even if that person's track record is very good in trading.
Because the person is not necessarily honest, now it is very vulnerable to fraud. After all, by entrusting
our funds to other people, our trading skills will not improve. And make us more dependent on others.

What are you saying??? What makes fixed returns a scam?
There are many investments that are giving fixed returns and I believe that’s what he’s referring to.

I will only agree with you that fixed return investments might not profitable because majority of them (the legit ones) are giving 8% to 12% and it’s annually. That apart I don’t see anything wrong with it. And if you invest huge money you’re going to get a reasonable profit, but it’s not everyone that has much money to invest for one year.

Probably the user was just trying to say most projects promising a fix returns are scams and for those without scam intentions, they might consider an exit scam scheme when the market becomes unfavorable like currently. The big firms been able to keeping up to their fixed interest, have other medium that make up for their losses when the market goes against them.

Project like Binance exchange offering that package either via staking or flexible savings features has numerous source of revenue as insurance. Also understand, the fixed interest aren't attractive unless they're from trusted institutions that Investors will be comfortable investing their funds with.

The non profitability aspect is quite true to some extent as you would had been better offer taking advantage of the market and made more profits than keeping your funds or coins with this platforms and getting panny in return while you enrich them.

Even if i do have the money to put in then i would rather just play safe. 8-12% or 4% annually is common with these platforms which is way more better compared if you do just let your fiat sit into the bank
but when it comes to the level or risk then nothing beats out if you do put up your money into a platform/company/institution that do promises out those percentage return for a year.
Just like on what most people do ask or tell that is it really worth for the risk? If you can put up millions or hundreds of thousands then you can felt the return but for those
who do had average then it isnt really worth? No its not. So this kind of previledge wont really fit out on everybody.