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It's very important to always create Proof of Authentication in every bounty campaigns you join even if the bounty manager don't request for it, why? Because this will safe you from unnecessary red trust from DT members, some cheaters go around stealing people's bitcointalk information to fill bounty forms without you noticing, atleast not until you realise you have got a Red Trust on your profile, this is very common in Telegram campaignsand social media campaigns like Twitter and Facebook campaigns, I want to use this opportunity to pass this information to all DT members and BTT Forum managers and admins, please kindly allow POA from all members to avoid undeserving Red Trust, I've heard from people on here that their POA got removed by admins on this forum, this POA is a life savings in this case don't you think ?? Thank You

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Please bounty managers start considering POA, as you can see it will help a lot and will get rid of spammers easily, lack of POA is why cheaters spam your campaigns and since BTT admins can remove POA if you don't ask for it ( SPAM ), please start making POA a must.

Actually I agree with POA, but if all bounty participants use POA I think this will cause post spam on bounty campaign sub forum and because of this many POA posts are deleted because they are considered a spam post and in my opinion to solve problem of red trust maybe we can do a binding address on bitcointalk profile respectively, so that there is no misunderstanding with DT members and also our account does not get a red trust tag from them.

If bounty manager didn't ask for Proof of Authentication then you are not supposed to post POA or else it will be considered as spam post.If you are afraid of red trust then don't join into the bounties and if you found someone using your details for bounty rewards then create thread in reputation section to get them deserved rewards.

I think all managers are doing it already. Eversince scammers taking advantage of the cheating we cant actually do much but be strict. Even if you noticed on the service section all doing it and some of the campaigns left in the altcoin leaving doing the same.

Ive been a hunter before I become a responsible user and Ive seen and experienced how these scammers stealing works from the real promoters so sad that this is their way of earning. But good thing are active scam buster reporting these guys.

Well, the Proof of Authentication should be the standard of every bounty campaigns now.
Without it, people who don't have any bitcointalk account can participating by pretending they have bitcointalk account.
This is of course not fair for honest participants who have only one bitcointalk account to participating.

I totally agree with you about the Proof of Authentication post, definitely needed on every single bounty program since it will verify our participation on the bounty program, avoiding people to use our detail information since they will be consider as duplicate and cheaters. The majority of those cheaters are a Newbie Rank in this forum, I hope bounty project will start consider to excluded Newbie Rank in their bounty.

It looks like almost all of the managers have already made the POA as the main verification to verify the users whether it has owned by the real participants or not.

If you are seeing the majority of bounty announcement thread and you will see almost all of the campaigns have already mentioned POA as verification in the main thread. Just try to spend a few seconds to visit it and then back.
I think that this thread must also be moved into the service discussion of the altcoin section as it's related to the bounty.

Most of the good bounties require this post of Authentication and this is good because it can be the basis of the information of the legit owner of that account and if the bounty manager mistakenly send the reward to unfamiliar address, then its not your fault but of course you still have to check the spreadsheet every time and then. Posting this one is very simple, I also support this and every bounty should have this one to limit the scammers.

Actually, that's the main purpose. Because there are some participants that will use your profile but will provide a different address. In this manner, the BM knows that it is indeed coming from your account. Remember the days of airdrop, people will use your username to enter the program. And of course, there's no way of knowing that it is really you. So this move is actually good for everyone.

I agree with this, after all social media bounties nowadays many scammers are using other people's accounts for their own gain. just follow the bounty signature and make a great post and it will save your account.

If managers don't require PoA posts, people should not make PoA posts. Funny to see how spammers and bounty hunters make PoA posts as their common habit.


I agree that if managers don't require, make PoA posts are spam.

Nearly all bounty campaigns require participants to post Proof of Authentication articles, which will help people avoid spoofers.
In the past I have seen a bounty campaign that did not require participants to post Proof of Authentication articles, shortly after that many fraudsters impersonated the participants in order to steal their money. Finally, the bonus manager is required to verify it again before making a payment.

Using proof of authentication post is really a life saver for everyone. But there are some bounty or airdrop campaign manager that don't want this because for sure there will be more extra works for them. I saw some bounty managers, who are just dropping a google form link to the thread and it is open for everyone who want to join in the campaign, so that's the time anyone can enter fake information, such as bitcointalk username or addresses.
I figured it out since I already experienced this, some user used my bitcointalk username to join in an airdrop before I think or it was a bounty campaign.

I agree, Proof of Authentication is a very simple post but it can help people avoid scammers.
A bounty program that requires Proof of Authentication is a correct act, such bounty programs often win my hearts.
I will not participate in a bonus program where the administrator does not require a Proof of Authentication, such bounty programs look really simple.

You will not have any negative trust from DT if the proof is only came in spreadsheet . most of them have idea already that some users here is abusing bounty and use others people profile in spreadsheet, so I don't think they will give you  redtrust for that ,its  not a valid proof to be tagged.

Having only spreadsheet for a campaign will not work that's why POA is needed  and should be required every time they will create/make a bounty.

I recommend not doing PoA if not required, because it is considered to violate the rules of the forum which will likely be banned.

If the bounty manager doesn't ask for PoA, assume the manager knows how to deal with scammers. Or write your complaint in the bounty group.

It's true that proof of authentication is very important but I suggest you shouldn't post it if the bounty manager doesn't request for it, this will turn the post into spamming and forum moderators will remove it, I think this claim of yours should be targeting the bounty managers that don't implement proof of authentication on their bounties .

I completely agree with the OP,  especially to avoid situations like This (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282485.0), all bounty managers should make it mandatory for all participants to always submit a proof of authentication in the bounty thread to avoid bot attacks and scammers using others information,

Although if the campaign or the bm does not request for pos there was no need but seeing the way some unscrupulous members tries to take advantage of the situation makes it necessary to do so, it is an unfortunate situation.

Proof of authentication now is the standard now to make the campaign the campaign clean, the moderators will understand this because this is the only way for a member to proof that he is the one joining a campaign and the stake will not go to cheaters, about wallet binding, it's also a good idea but some bounty hunters are using different address for their campaign.

The Bounty section is the easiest way for scammers to steal or leak anyone's information. Notice the bounty spreadsheet then you will understand it clearly. So many scammers used it by using fake entry. Proof of authentication is the only way to identify the authenticity of the owner. We can not deny that if every manager used this tool then every valid participant will make it to prove themselves as a valid participant then the bounty section will be responsible for more spamming. So, need a way where both sides will be benefited and can be reduced spamming.

Yes, and this is a very simple matter and should not be debated because every campaign participant must refer to the rules set by a campaign manager, if indeed the proof of authentication is requested by the manager then make it, if not asked then don't make it, Simple.

Correct, if cheaters bombarded any bounty campaign it's the bounty Managers fault, we don't have to tell how important POA is, bounty managers should know better, if bounty managers ask for proof of auth post from every participants it's fine and if not it's on the BM, admins will remove your POA if the BM failed to ask for it.

So far what I know about Proof of Authentication Posts is the main key that is very important as a presence representative, meaning that what has been entered in the spreadsheet is the same as the identity you provide and can be used to avoid identity theft which is usually done by thieves who use identity you to participate in a campaign.

This is very true op, proof of authentication is very important to avoid duplicate of accounts and attempting to steal other users work.

I always ask for the Proof of Authentication post in my own campaigns and it is required in the most campaigns from other managers too, but as you can find in the bounty section rules: "Users posting "joined" type posts when not required or allowed will be BANNED". So you should be careful and don't write such post if it is not required in the campaign rules, no matter how useful you find such posts, rules are rules.

This is a wake up call for those bm who have not introduce the use of POA in there bounty, it is very important they do so, even though majority of the bounties are already requesting users to submit POA in the bounty thread, still you will come across some who are have introduce if, there are many people with bad intent in the forum, it is btter not to give them opportunity to exercise their bad intention, so all bm's should always request for POA from hunters to prevent shady actions.

authentication , like we used to see when we login on site where you need to enter such code that they sent in your inbox ? but it can also be done other ways if used here in the forum .  i remember cheating have happend before when the time that airdrops are still popular .

cheaters grabing email address and bitcointalk profile accounts from the honest users  but those acts were spotted and regulated before but it does not mean that we need to stop doing poa   .

Proof of authentication is really helpful for us since there are some who stole social media account links to join some campaign or cheat some bounty.
At least if we have authentication post the managers could easily check the users old Proof of authentication post to verify if they are really the owner of the social media that is being used or the crypto address really belongs to the bounty hunter.

That's correct, a lot of new member that doesn't fit the minimum requirements sometimes steal high rank profile link member to get join the bounty. Hope that there's better structure to prevent spam without POA, but so far POA is the best way to avoid it

I agree that to avoid scammers, proof of authentication is required, as I've experienced my Bitcointalk account being used by someone else before a bounty required post authentication, and this is great for avoiding cheating from happening again.

Having POA is really a good thing to minimize those spammers around and prevent those tagging of red trust to an honest bounty participant without his awareness. I think POA posts are not yet compulsory by this time but hopefully this will be given consideration this time by those bounty managers even if it means additional work for them because this is really a life saver for all of us bounty participants.

POA is very important but few bounty managers are still stupid enough not to implement it on their bounty campaigns, they are the ones complaining about cheaters joining campaigns with many stolen identities/Profiles, POA makes things lot easier and smooth for any bounty campaigns

POA is not spam post, but this is so important, even if don't require, try to imagine you join in campaign without POA, also in the form registration not required it, but at the end of campaign maybe developers or bounty managers try to cheat, so he makes a new form, but in the new form POA is mandatory, they say "for proof that you join in the campaign". What will you fill??

POA is so important for future case

Exactly, Actually day by day many bounty hunters are joining into forum specially in nCOVID time. They are thinking forum is a source of income but for that cause they have to follow the forum rules as well as bounty rules. So when bounty admin prohibited to join with POA, only with form of join but they create POA in forum. This is sure spamming for forum also for bounty. So as you mentioning POA is a life saving, sometimes its life killing. Here i think everybody should work behind it carefully.

thanks.  

one of its uses is to avoid cheating from bounty hunters. yes, it looks spammy, but when the manager made a policy to make it easier in managing the campaign I didn't think it was a problem.

The importance of POA posts cannot be overemphasised when it comes to participating in bounties. Several persons have earned a red trust due to the absence of POA posts and with the prevalence of unscrupulous individuals using other people's information, it's wise for bounty managers to make the POA post mandatory for participants in bounties.

Although, the campaign manager does not ask us to do authentic evidence, but with our habit of doing authentic evidence in a bounty thread, it has become a habit for us to do it, I am very supportive of making authentic evidence in order to avoid Red Trust, hope this can help us avoid fraud ..

I’m in favor of doing post proof of authentication to avoid stealing of information since mostly cheaters are doing it on behalf of your account. It happens to my social media account that someone joined the campaign, imagine those people can easily steal your info. This is why having POA is really helpful to the users.

I think we should bind the ETH address for the bounty campaign with an account. This will help with two things one is no one can sell a BTT account because a BTT account can have only one ETH address. Also, scammers will not be able to use the BTT profile for bounty registration because participants will only be able to get payments with the ETH wallets that are connected with their accounts.

Whatever the bounty manager asked for is what we should do, if problems occurs be ready to face it on your own, if you don't want problems stay away from any bounty project that failed to asked for proof of authentication, if a cheater use your information on other campaign it will be hard to come out clean

This has been a problem in the forum for a very long time, some bounty hunters apply to bounty campaigns using the accounts of other members of the forum in order to earn more stakes and not only this is unfair to the bounty camping they also affect the users they are stealing their account name, now if the member has a lot of reputation on the forum then the other DT members can easily tell it was not them and can tell all of this situation was caused by a scammer, but in the case the user is not well known then most likely he will get red tagged and it will take a long time to demonstrate their innocence so proof of authentication posts seems like a good measure against this.

It shouldn't be a must. Having user obliged to do POA is a bit of a double-edged sword. Whenever I see a user here doing a lot of those, it is a common mindset here and out that they have the possibility of being a spammer because they're for bounties and earning money.
Bounty managers should at least just check the entries because just slapping a Google Form to be filled poses a lot of vulnerabilities to every users here.

I do not think it is fair to day people should not participate in bounty just because they are afraid of wrongfully misunderstood for cheating which result in red trust. It will be OK if all the bounty managers make use of the POA approach. Everyone is not posting the same POA so I don't know why that is considered spamming. Cheating bounty is one of the challenges facing bounty hunting and it must be stopped

Proof of Authentication sometimes don't do the Magic. Cheaters are smart, they think ahead of the manager that's why they used that tactics to cheat in Bounties
There are some similar cases where they even register a bounty before bacuause they know you will surely apply which if care is not taken, you will end up with a negative trust when you dnt always properly scan through the spreadsheet.
The bottom line is, either proof of Authentication or not, always check out your names and social handles on every campaign so don't fall victim of their traps. It's always hard to explaining to DT members when you didn't apply campaign.

Yea, you are very right about that, proof of authentication can save us from red trust. The forum is full of scammers, every campaign now has got a lot of potential scammers looking out to use someone's account to get a reward and it is very easy to do in a telegram campaign. I just hope bounty managers and DT members will also help out in this area.

There are times that newbie cannot be excluded in bounty, except in signature that requires jr member atleast, because even the campaign manager has the same rank. I used to get away from the bounty that almost newbie participates. Proof of authentication really helps to protect our own information and not let anybody to get opportunity to scam.

We all know cheaters or spammers are not new in bounties, we know more about this when managers make easy rules. I once found that the spreadsheet was almost overloaded because spammed by bot. POA is something very important so that rewards are right to the owner, almost 80% of managers require making POAs and some haven't. Hopefully in the future the bounty will more better.

Evidence of authentication must be standard on every bounty campaign, but don't rely on just one proof. You can do a proof of ownership the address that you owned by signing a message on your address, and don't forget to include your address on your bitcointalk profile.

How to Sign & Verify Messages on Ethereum. (https://support.mycrypto.com/how-to/getting-started/how-to-sign-and-verify-messages-on-ethereum)

I was a victim of this fraudulent activities in the past when multiple entries under my username enrolled in a campaign and even though i was reporting it to the campaign manager at that time they did not take any action for the longest part and i was fed up and stopped participating in campaigns altogether but now they are asking for proof of authentication in the campaigns i enrolled and that is the only way to counter these scammers.

Cheating is already happening even before. They take advantage the less strict rules to steal the information of bounty hunters to be able to participate even they are not qualified.

Proof of authentication is good for each user. Its a way for them to know that its your work and to prevent other users stealing your info, but not all bounty managers are asking for it thats why cheaters can take advantage the innocent users.

but not all bounty managers need this method. Every project has its own rules, if Mnager Bounty doesn't need Proof of Authentication then you don't have to. It's simple, if you don't want to get a negative Trust or be perceived as spam, then you should carefully read every project rule you want to follow.

yes, POA makes thing easier for any bounty campaign but it also makes bounty manager work harder. they must double or triple check it everything in every week. so i think they're not stupid but they just tired. but it is their responsibility, because they were paid. maybe that is one of the reason why there are still so many bounty that didn't use POA.

I don't think so, it is not about the bounty managers who need this method. This is only for the safety of every members to avoid bounty cheaters. Most of the time, the account of other members here are being used to apply in different bounty campaigns even without their knowledge. To avoid this, POA should be done and I think this is also important.

you got it right. this is for bounty hunters safety. if they don't implement the POA, the innocent and honest hunters will get a bad impact from cheaters. and this is not about the project rules, because i believe bounty hunters will read it carefully before join the bounties. it will be good if the bounties have a limited participants and then implement the POA.

That's why it called Bounty Manager. They work harder to remove bounty cheaters in their campaign. POA is important to check who is cheat and who is the real.

I'm not participating in other bounty campaign except the signature campaign so I only need to post once in the bounty campaign thread but if BTT admins and moderators are deleting those reports of POA we cannot do anything with it, they have the right to implement their rules how about for every 1 report participants should first make at least 3 posts in the discussion, so the account will not be tagged as spammers you can suggest this.

I rarely seen the managers who didn't put the POA but they will be using the address as the verification to make sure if that has owned by the real user.
Even the bitcoin campaign needs POA to make sure if the manager can clarify the authentication of the its participants.

It's not all but almost all of managers are using this method.

This is already been done with btc address, many members in this forum already bind their account to their btc wallet address but that doesn't stop some people from engaging in buying and selling of such accounts, if the owner of the account is the one selling then the buyer will receive the key to the binding wallet which they can claim as their original account,
This solution will result to many problem because some hunters will claim they have lost their keys and so on.

Thanks for the info. I have often noticed in the spreadsheet information that the deceivers from my social networks were using, but with their wallets. The only thing that upset me was that bounty managers didn't always react when I wrote about scammers

This POA thing actually has beenimplemented for like a year or so by some BM to apprehend cheaters from doing unnecessary things, cause cheaters will always cheat and find ways just to get double or triple rewards by using someone's info. And I think it is effective because I don't see any complains from bounty hunters regarding stealing of profile links anymore.

It's their job it's not an easy job but if they will not implement it it will be chaos, bounty managers will never know  who submitted what and when, if they are tired then get an assistant or do not apply to be a bounty manager, we need a well organized bounty or the project will lose it's repuation.