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Before I joined bitcointalk. org, I don't really know that there is existence of signature campaign, which in another hands that help people to sustain the life of humans, until I get up to membership rank and I joined campaign, so I really wants to know how bitcointalk user who have some of the signature campaign we are into, how them make profit from users who wear their avatar in bitcointalk community signature campaign?

because from my perspective I suggested that our payments is from individuals pocket in order to help people and also drag attention of people in cryptocurrency especially bitcoin, so I really need clarification based on numerous campaigns in platform management how ttem get their own revenue since users are been paid due to signature campaign we are into?

This is just win to win, members of this forum are wearing the signature and avatar to advertise these companies. There are many users on this forum, we can even form a big community on its own, many members are able to know about the company that are having campaign here through the avatar and signature we wear, from there, we can make use of the service the companies are rendering, for example like the betting companies. If not for this campaigns, I will not know Roobet or Bitamp etc and many other companies having the campaigns here, and other users will not know them too, and will not use their services.

That aside, there are many anonymous users that do visit this site, they are even more than we users, I mean monthly visit of anonymous users are far more than we members of the forum, and these users can know about this forum and interested in the service the company offering the campaign are offering. If not for the campaign, both we users and anonymous users will not know about this companies and we will not use them.

So, with your quality posts, you display these company through the campaign, you let people from all over the world that visit this site to know about this companies through the signature and avatar that appear on each of your post, the companies will pay you because you are letting people to know them. So, it is a win to win just like marketing, you are marketing the companies .and the companies are paying you for that.

This paying campaigns are businesses who advertise here through signature campaigns.

How they generate revenue? From the users who see/click this signature that redirect to their websites and make a purchase( if ever). Nothing to explain more, since its all about advertising, the same that you've been seen on facebook, youtube/google ads.

How they generate revenues? Ofcourse through traffics that were also generated by every member or guest clicks the link that are included within the signature.
New accounts will be created.
There are potential new users and loyal users to their websites.
If they generate new users, they will become more popular to the cyberspace which is very good to their company.

They simply advertise their company and hoping that more people will take a look on their service.

They got lots promotions throughout the forum, they got impression and eventually they got users in their site which get them revenue. However, campaigns are good if they are running long time. It creates brand image too.
I think this should be posted on service discussion. Please move the thread into that section.

Since Bitcointalk.org is a very well known/popular forum for cryptocurrencies.  Expecting that there is good traffic to gain if there is a business that wants to have ads here in the forum.  Generally, web traffic that benefits to the web owner by having a signature campaign on the forum will gain page views and unique visits per user.  Actually, we have different tools that can escalate the result of web traffic after promoting their projects here, if they will long last, it means they satisfied with the result.

Use this tool https://www.similarweb.com/ to know the result.

More page views or more visitors = more generated profit.

Speaking of signature campaigns, it'd be nice to see the list of longest running signature campaigns to date.

The explanation is quite understanding but i really need brief clarification via it, does it mean that anyone who logins to their websites has paid the platform or the person process of knowing the site the person can likely invest with the platform, because from my understanding, viewing a site without partaking does not really mean they have benefited from the user,except you will partner with them before the site benefiting from you, so I really need more facts concerning these.

There's no need of brief explanation of this, signature campaigns falls on online advertisement category, you can google "benefits of online advertisements" to get more clarification of advertising.

And yes, there's no assurance that the audience of the ads/signature campaign will pay/purchase or anything that will generate traffic and revenue since ad network (or signature campaigns) doesn't controls its user's action particularly on clicks and buy, but mostly advertisements helps business to improve their services/products after making an ad through the data statistics/analytics they gathered.

Signature and avatar can make attraction then people will click on signature with hyperlinks that direct them to the site of company. If they feel interested in the site, products, games, technologies, they can register accounts, make deposits, trades, exchanges, bets. Those activities bring income to company.

You can see there are some companies that prolong their campaigns because they see good income from it. In a opposite side, there are some companies close their campaigns after 1 or 2 weeks and never come back. It can be because of their small promotion fund, and their products are not good enough to attract people.

Advertising has a lot to do with being what’s called Top of Mind. That is to say, even if the Ad/Signature does not necessarily lead to an immediate call-to-action, being on the top of mind may well pay-off. Say that for example you’re considering the urge to mix your Bitcoins. It’s pretty more likely that you’ll use, or at least look into, one or two Mixers that you’ve seen around here, than ones you haven’t.

Some campaigns do make a near-time call. Take for example all the past ICOs. They were paid in what were basically free tokens for the company, getting in return exposure, and possibly a bunch of investors who may not have considered the ICO, were it not to be flashed around in signatures with frequency.

Betting site exposure seem more of a top of mind thing, as are other services. Those that pay in Bitcoin, differ from the above, in that they actually have to put something tangible into their marketing efforts, and therefore, tend to control better who provides the exposure and where. I figure they measure all the click-through data and stuff, but still there’s bound to be a fair share of direct traffic to their sites, that cannot be linked back to the campaign on the forum, but that derives from being top of mind.

Normally, in marketing, you play around with marketing funnels, and ponder the numbers that you retain and fall-out at each stage (i.e. leads -> prospects -> customers -> customer segmentation -> etc.), in combination with the channels. You normally set targets at each level, but say you want to increment your customer base 5%. You’d have to translate that into numbers along the funnel to determine how many leads you need to gain, where forum members/readers are potentially leads for a given channel.

They don't directly generate revenues from bitcointalk. Bitcoin is a place where projects get advertised and if the advertisement can get enough attention, they get some clicks and eventually a new customer who get them the revenue.
Signature campaign pays you because you are promoting them through your signature space and in return they are getting introduced to the forum participants. That's the benefit of the campaign project.

To make it in an easy way, I have to say that did you see TV ads? Have you seen there some huge banners beside the roads? If you saw that then think bitcointalk signature campaigns also the same things here. when people see a signature, First they become curious about that site, then visit it, after the visit some start to buy/use/play on that site. Thus Sig campaigns give them a profit.

To add to what other users have said, on-forum signature campaigns are there for a reason. Just like other advertising techniques, signature campaigns allow these brands to target specific set of users. For instance, Bitcointalk has the largest number of users who use crypto to gamble. To get across users like this via traditional advertising methods like Facebook ads is a little far-fetched.  So to achieve the best result and on-board new users to try out their platforms, it's best to target more specific user group, in this case, the crypto community.

At the end of the day, Its a win win situation for both the brands organizing these campaigns and the users participating in them. Not to mention users also patronize brands they advertise about too.

Looking at some of the companies that have been advertising on this place for millions of dollars in months, I am sure that their biggest visitor/customer (revenue) comes from this place.

I think the companies or services that advertise themselves on this forum have their own qualities compared to elsewhere. As many say, this forum has mostly competent members researching a new company or service with a 0% chance of containing fake reviews.

Many people trust the bitcointalk forums even if they are not here and will be a strong lure for new visitors or customers. Personally I judge, if a service has been advertising in this forum for a long time (say more than 2 months) in the form of ANNs, banners and signature campaigns, then I believe that the service has succeeded in answering many questions even the slightest problem that someone worries without getting negative reviews.

I was once curious about the samethinf and I ask my do this people (campaign organiser) waste their fund all in the name of BTC but I later understand it was mainly to put their project/company into limelight in crypto business, increase their site visibility (search engine) and also to improve their stats on any backlinks tools. In the meantime, they gain more than they spent and thats why you see more company/new project holding campaign on here.

No, the payment actually come from company/project team pocket but they are usually sent to the campaign manager wallet upfront once the campaign is launch.

Yes, it to gain attention and more which i have already explained.

Have explained it above.

So what you are trying to educate me in particular is that those signature campaigns we are into, is really a companies of individuals like us, shall with all these response I can comprehend the source of were campaign platform happened to achieve or benefit by hiring a lot people in signature campaign via bitcointalk community.

I really know its a kind of advert but to some majority of users who do not like the product, and would not rather think of purchasing the product at all, what's exactly the source of revenue to those companies. Lets take an example, I could remember poker share (a gambling platform that bets on poker) signature campaign that lasted for two weeks, therefore, the outcome wanted wasn't enough as expected because they got few clicks and too less purchase from the ones already registered on their site, how could those companies like pokers share gets their revenue? I think just a mere clicking can't pay their staff and run bonus promo, so how exactly do they generate their revenue for the ones that got few clicks and less purchase.
Let me answer you this way, I know many users above had answered you correctly, let me add something.
Have you ever noticed some different ads that appear after your post?, not the same with the signature you wore, that's where bitcointalk gets their revenue from. If you can watch closely well, you can notice new company ads that pops down below your post immediately after signature, you can see "Fairspin Your Pro gambling tools"
That's a banner paying bitcointalk for promoting them, I think so.

they earn from users who also gambles after its advertised. but i think most of them does have funds already before they even do a campaign here. they wouldn't start a business that needs marketing if they are not prepared to spend for advertising. there are hundreds to thousands of lurking users who just want to learn where they could play though and finding out that they can withdraw their funds because the casino is not a scam will eventually make the casino earn.

Don't limit your mind into thinking that these companies don't make any profits, else they would not put out 1000s of dollars just for fun. I am going to cover gambling based signature campaigns significantly where those participants who do not earn for a living and instead take signature earnings as a extra income or rewards, will go to those sites and surely gamble there. There are wagering contests and some participants gamble just to manage the withdrawal fees, whereas other gamble it all just for fun and losing the coins does not bother them in any way. If turnover of a gambling website is good (for the time they started the campaign), then they extend the duration of the campaign and makes it a long term campaign because it is giving them profits. Newbies who are gamblers and follow these websites after seeing the signature, and visit the site will convert automatically into a customer. Some even click on the ads because they like the logo/design of the signature or website, get attracted there and start playing. Such gamblers are the revenue generating source of these gambling websites. And there are some gambling companies who pause their campaign and evaluate the results, looking after which they decide as if they want to continue with it or not.

Well, you can ask the company itself as no one will know (members here) related to their revenue sales.

Besides, running an ad (especially signature campaign) has no assurance of revenue, account registration, its more like get traffic, visibility, backlinks, and more like to boost the website ranking on google.

You can't just make an assumption that a signature campaign got few clicks and purchase base on their signature campaign time frame that's why they stopped.

As a company they have their marketing budget, they don't just stick to one promotion/ad in one website there are lots of ad network that can maximize their fund to get a better result so signature campaign is only an option for them.

This gives me a confusion too? The signature campaigns are the one who runs an activity or program on the forum they are promoting their banners, avatar, and signature that we are wearing today, they are the one of the reason why the forum becomes more active of  course they have the rights to choose the participants they want, that's the reason why they are hiring a campaign manager so they are the one who will handle the whole campaign. The signature campaign are not the one who gets revenue to the forum. As you can see even on their signatures they aren't having any shortcut link instead of a full link directly on their website.

This is more efficient both in cost and manpower to be fair against bigwig corporations. You pay for individuals instead of spending on expensive air time ads, plus the target customers are very precise because they operate in forums.

This really shouldn't be a pain in the ass else, your looking to have or has a platform of your own and wishes to enroll it in Signature and Avatar campaign. Revenue generation in for platforms running signature and avatar campaigns is always as a result of using those platforms. Now, these platforms has been designed as an online platform of which you've got very slim chances of seeing it rather accidentally on Google search engine as a suggestion as Google often suggest that which is been searched for multiple times hence, if your platform isn't purpular enough to be searched for directly, it stays anonymous, you get less and less visitors and that is bad for business.

The signature and avatar campaign steps in as a third man, a link between platform and prospective individuals. It's just basic advertising. Your platform gains the popularity you desire and you pay to get the job done. I'm quite sure a lot of platforms that runs signature and avatar campaign today would have stayed anonymous to a lot of users if this campaigns wasn't done. So, the campaigns creates an awareness in the minds of prospective users, the users doing the advertisement by wearing signature is being paid for it, the platform gets a lot of traffic and it ensures that nearness-call as you tend to use that which, your already familiar with.
Just to add, I'm putting on one and as such, I can't complain 🤓!

Let me quote a direct response to a similar question from one of the companies running a signature campaign here
This is another example of what DdmrDdmr is saying about "Top of Mind".

It's should be not, services is for buying/selling services and this is question.

Service section if for buying selling services but I said service discussion which is created for discussion about various services and this thread is such kind of I think which is the reason I suggested to move the thread. It's certainly not an issue of meta board from any view I think.

Oh alright, I wasn't even aware about that board.

I'm getting better understanding in this way, so particularly, what's the company is after is their traffic, visibility and even ranking their site on Google, I get this point too as well. How about some signature campaign want was run some 5 years ago, can they really get a stand as more gamblers are choosing new gambling platform today, I really think the old ones looses customers/gamblers everyday, so which revenue keeps them going? or how do they actually keeps progressing.

Crypto projects usually pay in their own tokens so those participants don't really see a reason to further buy in. After all, they joining mainly for the payment.

I used to join one, which went belly up some time later. Never got to redeem my tokens.

Exposure is key in order to attract more players into knowing your business. The fact that signatures also last in the forum no matter how long the reply stays on the thread, the fact that the person wearing the signature + avatar makes the business more exposed to members as well. Remember that this forum is the biggest cryptocurrency forum to date- lots of traffic generating also from non-members of the forum.

The fact that most gambling websites offer signature campaign services in the forum tell you that they probably generate revenue quite significantly.

Effective promotion really depends on who is promoting it and how they promote it through the signature they carry with each post. I think people will be interested in investing or visiting the site if the promoter is a good quality poster where they can convince people even when they don't encourage people to invest or play on the site.

The weirdest thing I've come across right now is probably the promoters of an altcoin project posting on board that are irrelevant to the project they're promoting. For example they post on gambling board when they are promoters of an altcoin project. It won't work in my opinion.

This is the job of the manager of the campaign to ensure targeted publicity is done and the marketing can attract users to the platform or project.
Many projects would not hire a manager to conserve cost and end up running a campaign or bounty that does not reach the targeted audience or is promoted by shitposters who do not out the project in the right light.

noormcs5 bumped this thread after months of inactivity, and there was no need to, because what he wrote adds nothing to what has already been said here.  Probably the only thing he knows about crypto is how to use this site to earn money, so I'm guessing he searched for a thread he could at least write a shitpost in--which he did.

I reported this thread as being necrobumped.  True, it isn't that old but it didn't need to be resurrected.

If you look at it that way, then signature campaigns organized by casinos shouldn't pay for the majority of the posts outside of the gambling subs, but they do. If I operate a casino, what is the likelihood that I will find interested gamblers in the technical Bitcoin subs who post in threads about how to make the blockchain more efficient? Or those who discuss new features and improvements for the Bitcointalk forum in Meta.

In reality, people can be interested in different sorts of things. I can have ideas on how to make the Bitcoin network and forum better, but also like to gamble. Similarly, I might like investing in altcoins and gambling with a part of my profits in those alts.

The right answer to this question could be given only by the owners of casinos and other companies that pay the participants of the signature campaign on this forum.
I have some experience in online marketing and I know that it is very important to identify the target group and find the right place to advertise your product and service.
The target group is obviously people who earn or have cryptocurrencies and follow sports and like to bet.
Given this, the gambling section of this forum is obviously the right place to advertise sports casinos through signature campaigns.
Another important thing is sustainability, ie the ratio of funds invested in advertising and the achieved performance, new users of their services and earnings.
If more is spent on advertising than is earned, then advertising is ineffective.
Obviously this question of advertising effectiveness on this forum can only be answered by advertisers, because they have all the data.
This forum has a lot of registered members, but there is a noticeable trend of declining activity and in the long run this could affect the interest of advertisers in this forum.