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Title: 🔻 n1 List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on October 23, 2020, 01:45:45 AM
After testing and using many of casinos and betting websites I deicded to create my own list of Casinos everyone should be avoiding.
There can be many reasons for this and some of them are posting false information, suspicion for fraud or scam, not paying withdrawals, bad software, etc.
Please do NOT bump or post anything in their topics, but better report, post feedback on profiles and ignore them.

Casino to Avoid Reasons for avoiding
1. Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) Using the 777Coin name, Scam accusations, Fake provably fair, Negative feedback, Death threats, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
2. Satoshi Casino (https://ninjastic.space/topic/5283572)  Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
3. Crypsino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214440.0) Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
4. Bitstarz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651730.0) Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, Not paying
5. 1xbet (https://1xbet.com/) Many Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, locking users funds
6. 888STARZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250346) Scam Accussations, 1xbet owned, locking users funds
7. Wixiplay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261052.0) Fake provably fair, Negative feedback
8. Cryptodice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264759.0) Negative feedback, Not responding to scam accusations, Satoshidice old name
9. Megadice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828431.0) Open Scam accusations, Owner not responding
10. Safedice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868275.0) Negative feedback, Owners are not active and not responding
11. Betmatch (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5029854.0) Banned from forum, Scam accusations, holding payouts, bad support
12. ZigZagsports (https://web.archive.org/web/20201001001903/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279105.0) Website not working 404 error, Changing domains RU
13. Betking.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0) Scam accusations, Hacked, Lost investors funds
14. AceDBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.0) issues with withdrawal, slow support, website not working
15. 1xbit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3906360.0) many Scam accusations, negative feedback, bad support
16. wbet7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2607019.0) scam accusations, not active in bitcointalk forum
17. BitcoinCasino.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0) scam accusation
18. CyberBet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0) scam accusations, negative trust feedback, not active in forum anymore
19. Kawbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227494.0) connected with 1xbet/1xbit casionp group who allready have bad reputation
20. Zamabet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310725.0) Clone of satoshiCasino, crypsino and coins777 scams, Fake provably fair, Plagiarism, Negative feedback
21. Adkinsbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.0) Dead website, Accusations in forum, left the forum, bet manipulations, purchased shilling accounts
22. PayoutCrypto.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318112.0) Suspicious casino with cloned games, no license and only with discord support
23. Gamebets.website (https://ninjastic.space/post/56385807) Suspicious casino with cloned games, no license and only with discord support, new domain
24. 4444sport.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369802.0) Strange behavior with self-moderated topic, slow withdrawal, customer waiting for weeks, accusations
25. Ltccasino.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371356.0) They have negative feedback from members in forum, but there are signs of them paying back their customers
26. Fortunejack (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411207.0) They randomly locked my account, asked for kyc verification for $200 and seized my coins; Don't use this casino without KYC!
27. CoinPlay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5420930.0) Negative feedback, scam accusations, they are confiscating money from customers.
28. BetChain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5232339.0) Scam accusations, not active in forum.
29. MegaPari (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418423.0) bad support, problems with withdrawal, some members found connection with parent company 1xBET.
30. Peeps Place list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234099) making false accusations, accused for asking money for his fake casino rating list.

Never invest more than you are afford to lose in any Casino, and if you are addicted to gambling please seek for medical help.

*Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) is not in any way related to well known 777coin.com!

Some casinos are not on the list, but they have mixed feedback and they are on my Grey list:

- Duckdice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1676313)
- Betonline.ag (https://www.betonline.ag/) (several scam accusations in forum)
- Bitbook.ag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109508.0) (used fake team member during ICO, later said it was mistake)
- Nitrogensports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159098.0) (Negative feedback, Bad customer support, Confusing rollover rule, Last case was resolved)
- BCH.games (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311987.0) (They are converting all Bitcoin deposits to altcoin BCH and you can't withdraw Bitcoin anymore from their casino)


Please consider that some members who left negative feedback are no longer with us.

- Any Casino website listed here is HIGH RISK with multiple complains, but you need to do your own research for each of them and read feedback on their profiles.
- This is NOT a list of Scams, but just my personal list of websites to avoid for betting.
- I can also list a website that has bad software or bad support that don't care about customers.
- Having negative feedback does not guarantee website will be listed here.
- You can suggest more bad casinos and sportsbook if they created topic in bitcointalk forum, and I will consider adding them.

Some of blacklisted Casinos can also be found on BTCGOSU website by member efialtis:
https://www.btcgosu.com/bitcoin-casino-blacklist/


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: peter0425 on October 23, 2020, 02:11:23 AM
I don't know if you are familiar with 1xBet   http://www.1xbet.com casino?checking their name in forum appears all of these threads

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5181770.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173128.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1792648.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3149821.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4910116.0

and there are many more to put here.

Also i think " YOBIT" is also a Exchange and Casino?(correct me if i'm wrong) that we need to be aware and prevent from visiting and dealing.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Yogee on October 23, 2020, 02:41:40 AM
I pulled these two from btcgosu review
1. WixiPlay.io
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250971.0
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261052.0

2. Cryptodice.io (formerly known as Satoshidice.io)
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245423.0
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264759.0

....Also i think " YOBIT" is also a Exchange and Casino?(correct me if i'm wrong) that we need to be aware and prevent from visiting and dealing.
It looks like they offer Dice game. I read it in a forum called cryptotalk.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: coin-investor on October 23, 2020, 03:21:16 AM


Also i think " YOBIT" is also a Exchange and Casino?(correct me if i'm wrong) that we need to be aware and prevent from visiting and dealing.

It can be considered they have a dice game and a race game and many complaining on their Dice game, because it don't look like a provably fair game just like other online casinos, they have this for 5 years now although only popular among Yobit traders.

It's good that OP created a thread like this but why not create one for the scam section these casinos listed here have scam reports that until now is not yet resolved.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Rodeo02 on October 23, 2020, 03:57:54 AM
I pulled these two from btcgosu review
1. WixiPlay.io
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250971.0
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261052.0

2. Cryptodice.io (formerly known as Satoshidice.io)
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245423.0
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264759.0

....Also i think " YOBIT" is also a Exchange and Casino?(correct me if i'm wrong) that we need to be aware and prevent from visiting and dealing.
It looks like they offer Dice game. I read it in a forum called cryptotalk.

Yes you are able to play dice there using different crypto currency listed in them. But I cannot called it as gambling websites they are more in exchange than gambling .they only use that option as part of entertainment for its users if they want to risk their coins want to win without trading it  by playing dice in them.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: ralle14 on October 23, 2020, 04:34:17 AM
Megadice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828431.0) and Safedice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868275.0) are a couple of sites that I know have a bad reputation and should be avoided.

Here's the scam accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204156.0) on Megadice his case is about Megadice's hot wallet not paying and at the same time they confiscated his balance.

Safedice's scam accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153361.0) is about the owner not giving any update or communication about the site's hot wallet issue.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Ryker1 on October 23, 2020, 05:36:20 AM
Well, I think you must be included the source of the link of their accusation because it is hard to point out that they are scammers without the link of scam accusations as proof. Because we are talking about business here and perhaps we may ruin them by their reputation if we suggest without valid proof. I know some of the gambling sites were selectively scamming their people if once there is no complaint, lucky for them and it is easy money to them.

We have a lot of accusations in the accusation board, just type [scam gambling site] on the search box, different gambling sites appeared. Just like 1xbit, cloudbet, luckyfish, and many more. I think searching in that board for scam gambling sites also much better but making a list should have a corresponding link to prove they are scammers.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: plr on October 23, 2020, 05:42:58 AM
It's good that we have a list like this, the scam section are full of gambling sites with a lot of bad reports but they are not compiled just like this, this is a big help for those looking for online casinos that they want to avoid, I hope OP will update whenever there is a new gambling site that has a bad reports.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Genemind on October 23, 2020, 07:06:55 AM
I think if you should start adding some sites that were added by some people to make your post updated and as well as keeping your list updated as you find more casinos that have negative feedback or scam accusations. There are a lot of new casino platforms coming out and it is good to have a reliable source to find lists of platforms with bad feedbacks.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Oshosondy on October 23, 2020, 07:23:54 AM
Op! this thread will be meaningful and helpful if you can update it often, nobody want to use a casino or betting site that are supporting advanced types of scams, in a way users may not be able to withdraw or in other ways that can only result to the live of users being frustrated and leading to scam. Although, I do not just use anything site for gambling because I have to pay into the site, I do check if a gambling site is legit and reputed or not, that is the first research I do make. I make use of old reputed sites while using very little amount of money to play on new platform which seems goods and okay according to researches I make.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Kasabus on October 23, 2020, 07:45:40 AM
I'm sure there's still a lot to add in that list OP if the basis is only he scam accusation threads in the forum. I think plenty of casinos here have scam accusation and yet there are still plenty of people trusting their website. Anyway, good job, at least they'll know when the thread will add more.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Casdinyard on October 23, 2020, 07:46:46 AM
I think it is better to start with the list of the casinos which are trustworthy and where we can play worry free.The list of scam sites will only grow bigger as new scam sites will pop up in a consistent manner.I wish this was true for trusted casinos but this is not the case as of yet.
There are numerous gambling sites and many of these sites are labeled as scam or fraud. I'd suggest proofs on the accusations in order to be more systematic and for these accusations to be valid. There are many gambling sites having bad reputation but not all of those sites are guaranteed as fraud. More often, bad reputations of those sites are delays with transactions.

But it is a good idea to contribute on other threads regarding scam gambling sites in ordee to limit those who will be fooled knowing how high the demand is, for gambling sites nowadays due to the fact that casinos are still prohibited to majority of the countries.



Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: iamsheikhadil on October 23, 2020, 08:11:18 AM
With all of the Casinos OP had mentioned, aside from being a scam or whatever defects they have, gambling sites should be avoided if you're just going to go there and make a living out of the blue, because that might escalate quickly. Playing gambling for fun is not that bad since it gives benefits for your mental health (but not totally recommended if you do have a family to feed).

In my opinion, playing gambling just because you've seen your friend earning a lot from it (because of luck) will never do good to you because you're just going to lose your money instantly like playing on scam gambling sites in which either you can't withdraw your profits or can't still win.

This is totally irrelevant post lol. The thread is about which casinos to avoid because of their shadiness... It's like posting cows have four feet in a topic which is discussing benefits of cow's milk! We should not gamble what we can't afford to lose. But here the discussion is about which casinos to avoid, not all of them. I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: shoreno on October 23, 2020, 09:37:16 AM
OP will going to update the list it seems there are many scam related casino and they do not care even if they are obviously scamming here because there is no authority that can stop them. The only thing that can be done is to write a scam and accusations agaisnt them. This even encourage others to do the same making a scam gambling site.

yes he will , thats only tiny but theres a huge scam going on in the online crypto gambling  biz . scammers are aware of what they are doing and try to mask it with a good intro to lure gamblers  but there are police that are patoriling on this forum 24/7 . they can get reported and tag  .


There is a software or application that can make a sophisticated sites which the software sold in the black market. High chance that the software could get involve in a thousands of scam related sites.
theres no need for software when creating a site but you can make it directly but that software you said enables people with less knowledge on to coding create a scam site easily but its price could also be expensive and theres also many scammers in the market that could sold you a fake copy


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Questat on October 23, 2020, 09:56:50 AM
This is like a summary of all gambling sites in the forum with negative feedback, nice effort OP but I hope you'll be able to update it from time to time as sometimes when an account gets red tag, it doesn't stay forever as they scam accusations can be solve as well.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Viscore on October 23, 2020, 10:30:32 AM
It is to know that all of them are just a clone site which seemingly created for scamming. As others said, there's a lot out there that haven't listed to OP, numbers of scam sites coming but they all never succeed. It was the time that gamblers had taking responsibility after having a bad experience in the past, it leads into the point that we need to make search before putting our money at risk.

Looking forward to how new gamblers will follow what oldies did, not being greedy or being foolish enough, and easily not get tempted into big bonuses instead of looking into the legitimacy of the casino.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: carlisle1 on October 23, 2020, 10:31:24 AM


Also i think " YOBIT" is also a Exchange and Casino?(correct me if i'm wrong) that we need to be aware and prevent from visiting and dealing.

It can be considered they have a dice game and a race game and many complaining on their Dice game, because it don't look like a provably fair game just like other online casinos, they have this for 5 years now although only popular among Yobit traders.
so it must be added for the safeties of newbie in the world of crypto once they encountered this exchange and gambling site as well.
I know this for long time since i am a participants of the campaign wayback when the cases against them is not that big thing but now that they seems to be real guilty so i won't let myself helping them having victim again in future.
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It's good that OP created a thread like this but why not create one for the scam section these casinos listed here have scam reports that until now is not yet resolved.
I think His motive is to make gamblers more familiar than in Scam accusation section in which gamblers not really visiting the section or not all,
not like here that majority of gamblers are being active and reading.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: rhomelmabini on October 23, 2020, 10:32:57 AM
Just a suggestion how about a community voting in this thread on what's the casino we should avoid the most as well? How about that?

I didn't know that Bitstarz is actually a scam crypto casino because my friend recently sends me a referral link so that he could get a bonus on the gambling site. I hope OP would definitely make an update list about scam crypto casinos so that only a few people will be deceived or tricked by these fraudulent gambling sites.
AFAIK they are the most untrusted site here in the gambling board especially to the old users. Haven't been into the site and have read some threads about them and I totally avoid them ever since.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: mu_enrico on October 23, 2020, 10:49:02 AM
I didn't know that Bitstarz is actually a scam crypto casino because my friend recently sends me a referral link so that he could get a bonus on the gambling site. I hope OP would definitely make an update list about scam crypto casinos so that only a few people will be deceived or tricked by these fraudulent gambling sites.
Seeing their UI, it seems the Bitstarz group always requires KYC before the withdrawal. Their site is similar to bitcoincasino.io, where withdrawal can only be made after users submit their KYC. It is just my assumptions, though, since I'm not interested in playing there due to the site reputations.

When you see "20 free spins no deposit bonus," it usually means mandatory KYC. #thereisnofreelunch


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: pungopete468 on October 23, 2020, 11:01:42 AM
This is great thread for a compilation of all scams or maybe have open accusation casino I think it's much better if you would also include sports betting sites as well I think some of the sports betting sites lately have some open accusations, scams and more.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Kasabus on October 23, 2020, 11:12:09 AM
This is great thread for a compilation of all scams or maybe have open accusation casino I think it's much better if you would also include sports betting sites as well I think some of the sports betting sites lately have some open accusations, scams and more.
I think casinos now have sports betting as well, they are already merged just like our popular casinos in the forum. OP will surely do that, as of now the list are those which are obviously scam, probably he is still doing some more research to add in the list.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: bitterguy28 on October 23, 2020, 11:20:48 AM
Bookmarking this Thread from now on mate so i have preference whenever i want to look into new casino sites aside from those casino that i use to play now.

and also i will check the update from OP and other posters as well because checking it now it seems that there are many sites you need to add for the knowledge of all gamblers that would visit this thread.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: yayayo on October 23, 2020, 11:29:36 AM
I've seen some users here are posting some links of casinos and maybe you could check them out and add it on your post
this thread could be the compilation of all casinos probably scam or shady one and users can check them out here to avoid being scammed.

ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Oasisman on October 23, 2020, 11:36:49 AM
....Also i think " YOBIT" is also a Exchange and Casino?(correct me if i'm wrong) that we need to be aware and prevent from visiting and dealing.
It looks like they offer Dice game. I read it in a forum called cryptotalk.

Yes they have dice game I've tried it once, I'm just not sure If it was probably fair.
They also have the pony race betting, I just forgot how it was called. It seems to me that they are expanding their exchange as a gambling website as well, but people are still skeptical about their service, as they had a lot of bad reviews and scam claims.

Anyway, it's good to see when users are actually posting shady gambling websites so other users can avoid getting scammed.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: aioc on October 23, 2020, 01:46:26 PM
OP should divide the list to those proven scam and those who has a pending issues, and link them to their respective threads, there are good gambling sites that has two or three pending issues and still people consider them already a scam site even though the admin is trying to resolve the issues.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Google+ on October 23, 2020, 02:16:09 PM
@notblox1 I think many of them ask you to include some evidence that might be one of the strong reasons that the casino is indeed problematic, because if there is no evidence it will make them not really believe, don't be ashamed of the capital you use to gamble, tell the members here what really happened because they essentially need an explanation of your statement.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: palle11 on October 23, 2020, 02:35:51 PM
OP should divide the list to those proven scam and those who has a pending issues, and link them to their respective threads, there are good gambling sites that has two or three pending issues and still people consider them already a scam site even though the admin is trying to resolve the issues.

I do support on this because some might not have being confirmed as scam. Or they are still being investigated. But for the type that has been confirmed, gamblers should try to avoid them not to fall further in scam. Is not proper to taste or try what has already been said as scam with proves.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: robelneo on October 23, 2020, 03:49:40 PM
We need something like this, why don't I think of this before, but OP I believe can do this much better than I can  :), have merited you for doing this I have this feeling that this is going to be a very long list, a year from now we can have hundred list of Casinos to avoid I hope Op and the community can keep up adding more here, I noticed that some of these are unfamiliar there could be a lot more outside of this forum..


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on October 23, 2020, 04:02:36 PM
I don't know if you are familiar with 1xBet   http://www.1xbet.com casino?checking their name in forum appears all of these threads

Thanks for providing the links, I know about 1xbet casino and they are now added to the list, but I will not include yobit exchange for now ;)

I pulled these two from btcgosu review
1. WixiPlay.io
2. Cryptodice.io (formerly known as Satoshidice.io)

Both of them are added,
but I have to repeat again, that does not mean that they are Scam so everyone must do their own research and read profile feedback.

Megadice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828431.0) and Safedice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868275.0) are a couple of sites that I know have a bad reputation and should be avoided.

Thanks for posting this two submissions.
Both Megadice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828431.0) and Safedice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868275.0) are now listed.
They both have serious red flags in forum, but still you need to make your own research.

List now has total of 10 websites.

I also want to post screenshot from email I got from Satoshi Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283572.0) accusing me that I did some fraudulent activity and Illegal manipulation of the withdrawal system, so they suspended my account  :D

They are the only FRAUDS here, so do NOT post anything in their fraud topic!

https://i.imgur.com/GH7lvCx.jpg

Support Flag here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2405



Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on October 23, 2020, 04:30:27 PM
@notblox1 I think many of them ask you to include some evidence that might be one of the strong reasons that the casino is indeed problematic, because if there is no evidence it will make them not really believe, don't be ashamed of the capital you use to gamble, tell the members here what really happened because they essentially need an explanation of your statement.
Like I said, and you should read again, this is NOT scam accusations thread.
All Reasons for avoiding comes from my personal experience or from their trust feedback profiles, and I provide links for their threads.
Click on OP profile and you will see the same feedback with links.
It may be updated in future with more information.

Only casinos or sportsbook with bitcointalk threads may be added.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: fullhdpixel on October 23, 2020, 04:38:30 PM
Thanks for the list but such threads can be only helpful if you are able to update the thread constantly and consistently with update from users because there are so many casinos and a lot of them are scam, I can mention a few like 999dice has been a scam long since and you might want to add them. I think we needed such a thread since a long time but really only helpful if you can take efforts and update thread every week at least.

I also think it would be great if you can put the thread with scam accusation against each casino in front of them their name so in case a casino is able to solve the problems we can also follow that and inform you to update the thread. There are many cases against casinos that are in pending mode so it also helps to mark the casino as pending cases and once solved you can remove them.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Reid on October 23, 2020, 05:32:23 PM
I can't remember clearly if it was Megadice or Safedice which invited me thru e-mail.
Thank God I don't like clicking links and signing up for every mail that will be sent to me.

Also i think " YOBIT" is also a Exchange and Casino?(correct me if i'm wrong) that we need to be aware and prevent from visiting and dealing.
Yes, they are.
I have actually tried their dice before with different cryptocurrencies.
It would just be better to dice with trusted companies like my signature rather than a known exchange with gambling inside.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: NotATether on October 23, 2020, 05:38:34 PM
@notblox1 I think many of them ask you to include some evidence that might be one of the strong reasons that the casino is indeed problematic, because if there is no evidence it will make them not really believe, don't be ashamed of the capital you use to gamble, tell the members here what really happened because they essentially need an explanation of your statement.
Like I said, and you should read again, this is NOT scam accusations thread.
All Reasons for avoiding comes from my personal experience or from their trust feedback profiles, and I provide links for their threads.
Click on OP profile and you will see the same feedback with links.
It may be updated in future with more information.

Only casinos or sportsbook with bitcointalk threads may be added.


I suggest you also ask efialtis add these casinos to BTCGOSU's avoid list before this thread gets buried under an avalanche of newer threads. It's better that these are listed on a site that people will keep visiting than on a bitcointalk thread that will fall off the first page.

Some of these casinos are already on his list so just suggest the ones that aren't there yet.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: lebregone on October 23, 2020, 08:39:18 PM
This is good topic, this can surely help many gamblers to avoid losing their hard earned money especially those newbies who have no further knowledge yet about these platform.

There are plenty casinos that are popping up from nowhere so we should be vigilant and careful on which casinos we would like to use, it will be  good if we will do some background check first before using any casinos and we should report here if we can find some scam casinos so they can be added to the list.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Saint-loup on October 23, 2020, 09:22:31 PM
....Also i think " YOBIT" is also a Exchange and Casino?(correct me if i'm wrong) that we need to be aware and prevent from visiting and dealing.
It looks like they offer Dice game. I read it in a forum called cryptotalk.
Yeah that is what also i have read from some post in the past,i am not a fan of yobit nor did i eve visited their scam site.



Also i think " YOBIT" is also a Exchange and Casino?(correct me if i'm wrong) that we need to be aware and prevent from visiting and dealing.

It can be considered they have a dice game and a race game and many complaining on their Dice game, because it don't look like a provably fair game just like other online casinos, they have this for 5 years now although only popular among Yobit traders.

Ohh i see,so meaning they are really into gambling and exchange,But very shady behavior.
LOL so you don't know this exchange, you've never visited it but you ask for adding it as a "casino to avoid"
you should be a little bit more cautious about what you read. I have never seen any complaint about their dice game or their race game, it's the first time I read something like that.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: jostorres on October 23, 2020, 09:32:04 PM
This is like a summary of all gambling sites in the forum with negative feedback, nice effort OP but I hope you'll be able to update it from time to time as sometimes when an account gets red tag, it doesn't stay forever as they scam accusations can be solve as well.
I believe the bitcointalk manager for the casino can always message OP and ask him to review the list once the cases are solved and the casinos comes out clean. There was a time when ever sportsbet.io was being speculated as a scam but they were not and they proved it and closed all accusations against them and now one of the biggest sportsbook in crypto is spotsbet.io so I mean user perspective can change once the casino or sportsbook clears their name.

I think that despite this list whenever I would visit any casino I would simply check their thread in the gambling section and based on their reviews I usually decide whether I want to play or not. Good efforts though and certainly important for new players who don't have the right knowledge of checking each thread so they can just bookmark this page and check every time they play.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: cabalism13 on October 23, 2020, 10:23:44 PM
We need something like this, why don't I think of this before, ...
AFAIK, We already have thisnkind of list before, and someone, correct me if I'm wrong about Duckdice having some issues that can be considered to be in this list. Wasn't clear from my memory but I do think tey are also part of this with having scam accusations.
Also, it might be better if this list will be kept updated regularly, so it really can help us determine whose making frauds.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on October 24, 2020, 12:38:24 AM
Also, it might be better if this list will be kept updated regularly, so it really can help us determine whose making frauds.
Duckdice have some mixed feedback, and some of the members who gave negative feedback are no longer with us.

I am here in forum writing everyday, and I am active in gambling board while checking and testing new casinos and betting websites.
List will be updated with any changes or when someone reports anything new that is suspicious.
Don't trust my list or feedback, but better confirm for yourself if you can.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: btc78 on October 24, 2020, 03:11:33 AM
It's good that we have a list like this, the scam section are full of gambling sites with a lot of bad reports but they are not compiled just like this, this is a big help for those looking for online casinos that they want to avoid, I hope OP will update whenever there is a new gambling site that has a bad reports.
Not just that,the Gamblers will be updated from time to time with this thread not like in scam accusation board in which too many scam thread that we can't check them all.
But here at least in single glimpse you already have the file of scammer sites that you need to prevent using.
OP did a great Job here as almost majority of listed gambling site are well known to be scammer and so many complaints against them here in forum and even outside.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Yamifoud on October 24, 2020, 01:54:31 PM
I appreciated this much, OP makes help others to avoid getting wreck by these copied sites.

This gives awareness to everyone, I hope newcomers will stop by in this thread to take a look if they are somewhat using any of them. I supposed to think as well if someone from the team to any of these gambling sites tries to clear it out and provide the solid proof of legality otherwise, the negative stance against them will no longer be changed.



Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: kryptqnick on October 24, 2020, 05:26:44 PM
I'm glad that there's now a thread dedicated to this topic. I've been writing for years that a list of casinos where a person should not play is no less important than the list of reputable casinos, and now there's finally a person that is working on it. You might find this thread useful for your list because there are casinos whose owners have negative flags here as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154971.0. I think Betking.io deserves a spot on this list, but then again it seems that the casino's closed, so maybe not. I also wanted to ask about Nitrogensports. I know it's pretty popular, and I personally did not have any problems with them or their manager, but there've been some accusations over the years (the trust feedback  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=88706)mentions it). Maybe casinos on the list deserve gradation? Like, black list, red list, orange list based on how certain it is that the casino is bad.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: goldade on October 24, 2020, 07:26:16 PM
Thank you OP for this thread. It is awesome to know things like this. It helps save unsuspecting gamblers from falling into scams. I'm exceptionally grateful for this.
My only regret is the fact that I didn't come across something like this sooner, say five years ago.
I fell for several scams like the ones OP mentioned. These sites and sportbook have great deposit bonuses and promise great returns only for me to deposit and then my account was blocked and my funds frozen.
I fell for these scams on numerous occasion until I learnt my lesson the hard way


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: target on October 24, 2020, 07:29:13 PM
*Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) is not in any way related to well known 777coin.com!

777coin is really popular that many of these scammers mimic it. They deliberately clone the pages of the real one to associate themselves to a legitimate casino.  Even with the accounts having a negative feedback and with scam accusation, the websites are still running.

I'm glad that there's now a thread dedicated to this topic. I've been writing for years that a list of casinos where a person should not play is no less important than the list of reputable casinos, and now there's finally a person that is working on it. You might find this thread useful for your list because there are casinos whose owners have negative flags here as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154971.0. I think Betking.io deserves a spot on this list, but then again it seems that the casino's closed, so maybe not. I also wanted to ask about Nitrogensports. I know it's pretty popular, and I personally did not have any problems with them or their manager, but there've been some accusations over the years (the trust feedback  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=88706)mentions it). Maybe casinos on the list deserve gradation? Like, black list, red list, orange list based on how certain it is that the casino is bad.

Agree to that Betking.io owned by Nolan who did an ICO after scamming. He must be the worse of all.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on October 24, 2020, 07:34:27 PM
I'm glad that there's now a thread dedicated to this topic. I've been writing for years that a list of casinos where a person should not play is no less important than the list of reputable casinos, and now there's finally a person that is working on it. You might find this thread useful for your list because there are casinos whose owners have negative flags here as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154971.0. I think Betking.io deserves a spot on this list, but then again it seems that the casino's closed, so maybe not. I also wanted to ask about Nitrogensports. I know it's pretty popular, and I personally did not have any problems with them or their manager, but there've been some accusations over the years (the trust feedback  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=88706)mentions it). Maybe casinos on the list deserve gradation? Like, black list, red list, orange list based on how certain it is that the casino is bad.

Guys I will not add betking.io because it is dead casino, but I will add Nitrogen based on feedback on their profile.
That doesn't mean it is a scam, but there are some risk when you bet there, and I can't confirm because I never used them so far.
Thanks for posting suggestions.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Stedsm on October 24, 2020, 07:42:05 PM
Imitation is the best form of flattery, as the saying goes. But the problem is, players are deceived by the wrong marketing, thinking that they are playing with the original one. I hope gamblers will do their own research before signing up to those mentioned sites.

The problem is, people just agitate towards the false advertisements just because such advertisements have misleading information involved, and the major issue I see here is, there are some websites who even imitate the duplicate ones which is ridiculous. I appreciate OP for this initiative and will do my best in finding him with extremely non-trustworthy sportsbooks. And I do believe that nitrogensports is a good, but not-so-quick site as I had been a part of them and they are good at everything except withdrawals.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: nakamura12 on October 24, 2020, 09:20:06 PM
This is why we need threads like this. This is very important for gamblers to know which casino or sportsbook to avoid and which one you can choose to gamble. Even well known casinos and sportsbook have problems too but the difference is that they find a way to solve the problem asap.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: acroman08 on October 24, 2020, 09:48:31 PM
should we(I mean you) also add casinos that try to replicate other casinos? I am sure casino's like that won't get traffic but it would be better to be cautious and warn people who might not know if the casino is a replica and just trying to look professional and waiting for people deposit on their website.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: ralle14 on October 24, 2020, 10:02:43 PM
should we(I mean you) also add casinos that try to replicate other casinos? I am sure casino's like that won't get traffic but it would be better to be cautious and warn people who might not know if the casino is a replica and just trying to look professional and waiting for people deposit on their website.
If there are issues with that casino similar to the ones listed in the list I think you can mention them here. There are casinos that look similar nowadays and at the same time have a good reputation like the crash gambling sites.

but I will add Nitrogen based on feedback on their profile.
That doesn't mean it is a scam, but there are some risk when you bet there, and I can't confirm because I never used them so far.
Nitrogensports is still okay and paying but their rollover rule can be confusing.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Ziskinberg on October 25, 2020, 07:29:58 AM
Nitrogensports is still okay and paying but their rollover rule can be confusing.

I also have the same experience, nitrogen remained one of my favorite sportsbook though they have a scam accusation, about the rollover, not so into it but I read some complains about that. Not necessarily those sites that are listed are all scams, that still depends on how people sees it.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Nellayar on October 25, 2020, 10:23:04 AM
Thank you OP!
Now I know what are those gambling site to be avoided. Nitrogensports is good before, in fact I had seen it here having a bounty. But what happens to it? I encountered also the coin 777 but I never click that gambling site because I was an old part of 777 coin which is genuine one. And I know that it is only a duplicate scam site of 777 coin. Anyway, this is helpful for us to know what are those site which will harm our funds. Instead of having entertainment to gambling, it may cause for others a trauma.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: buwaytress on October 25, 2020, 11:21:07 AM
Guys I will not add betking.io because it is dead casino, but I will add Nitrogen based on feedback on their profile.
That doesn't mean it is a scam, but there are some risk when you bet there, and I can't confirm because I never used them so far.
Thanks for posting suggestions.

Nitro. I have very mixed opinions about it. Known about it for a very very long time and I guess in that regards, you have a reputable sportsbook that at least by terms of staying power are here for the long term. I just don't like their margins -- by far the lowest among those using odds from Pinnacle. Quite a number of crypto bookies use Pinnacle but everyone's got an edge over Nitro. And I'm not talking about fractions of percentage either. With boosts and promos from other bookies, you often get 5-10% more just by choosing someone else.

So, for me, avoid, not so much for reputation but -- who likes leaving money on the table, right?


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: rodskee on October 25, 2020, 11:49:43 AM
I don't know if "Duckdice" case  has been resolved?since according to the owners trust page there are other account that holds their tags

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=917361

and here is the thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2022797.0


But even if,thanks OP for this Thread as you can saves many potential victims in the future.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Ziskinberg on October 25, 2020, 12:10:54 PM
I don't know if "Duckdice" case  has been resolved?since according to the owners trust page there are other account that holds their tags

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=917361

and here is the thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2022797.0


But even if,thanks OP for this Thread as you can saves many potential victims in the future.


That cannot be resolve anymore as that was only based on their "Misleading bonus conditions", as per DT member who had revise his negative feedback into neutral. Duckdice still has a lot of gamblers trusting them despite of the tag they have, so it's more on an awareness and it's up to us gambler to evaluate the feedback.

I was looking at the complete feedback ; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=917361
@Zepher, he was long gone already but his feedback still stays.



Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on October 26, 2020, 12:02:59 AM
One more website added to the list ZigZagsports (https://web.archive.org/web/20201001001903/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279105.0)
Some of you may remember member btc.jack posting Zigzagsports topic, and it was a joke with domains, and at one point you could only see cat images on their website, or domain was weird like this 3.ru.zigzagsport6.com.
I see their website is now back online, but I don't feel I can trust them.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: maxreish on October 26, 2020, 12:48:20 AM
Ive heard so much about 1xbet but ive been playing wixiplay before. Haven't try again after so much updates took place on their website. But some of my friends are still playing there and they arent complaining until now.

Anyway, anyone here had a feedback with bcgames?


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Saisher on October 26, 2020, 01:14:36 AM
Time saver for those adventurous gamblers who hoops from one gambling sites to another, there will be more coming on this lists including those who do not have an official thread here, I hope only those proven will get on the list, I thought I will find Cloudbet here, they have two complaints in the scam section but not yet proven.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: bitbunnny on October 26, 2020, 09:37:58 AM
New casinos and sportbooks appear all the time, it seems that is still very lucrative business. However, not all of them are legitimate and trustworthy so I really welcome such list where users could be warned what to avoid. The only thing is that unfortunately such list should be updated all the time to be relevant.
Also, it's important to make the difference between few complaints of unhappy users or real scam problems. It wouldn't be good to put on the list of shame some site that doesn't actually deserve it.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Ziskinberg on October 26, 2020, 03:36:21 PM
New casinos and sportbooks appear all the time, it seems that is still very lucrative business. However, not all of them are legitimate and trustworthy so I really welcome such list where users could be warned what to avoid. The only thing is that unfortunately such list should be updated all the time to be relevant.
Also, it's important to make the difference between few complaints of unhappy users or real scam problems. It wouldn't be good to put on the list of shame some site that doesn't actually deserve it.

Crypto casinos are growing due to the adoption, just imagine, they offer anonymous gambling, who would not want that especially if no legal gambling sites in your country, here in crypto, we can freely gamble anytime we want and that's with no risk of getting ourselves expose to the site or other people.

We have a lot of popular casinos here and they are already making millions of dollars but these new casinos though they are in a lucrative business, they will still struggle in finding their customers or growing their business as people value reputation here more than anything else.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: lifeOK on October 26, 2020, 03:53:26 PM
I can see there lots of new casinos and sportsbooks site are launching recently. It's getting really tough to make an conclusion which one is legit and which one ain't. Anyway, your attempts give newbies more confidence. As OP have listed nitrogensports, which make me confused. I have some history with nitro, not a regular but your statements make me forced to go trough with an investigation.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: perla on October 26, 2020, 05:39:21 PM
I just visited this thread it's really useful not just for newbies who are looking for casinos but some of us who are not familiar with other casinos and might looking for a new one this could guide them in choosing the right casino or gambling sites.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: seleme on October 26, 2020, 09:17:28 PM
I can see there lots of new casinos and sportsbooks site are launching recently. It's getting really tough to make an conclusion which one is legit and which one ain't. Anyway, your attempts give newbies more confidence. As OP have listed nitrogensports, which make me confused. I have some history with nitro, not a regular but your statements make me forced to go trough with an investigation.
New gambling platforms launch almost every month and scammers come back under different brands, unfortunately. Having a list of scam casinos will prevent the gamblers from getting in touch with scammers and they will think twice next time if they fall into the trap of scam casinos. Nitrogensports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=88706) has the official forum account and you can check the scam accusations on the related boards of the forum.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: milewilda on October 26, 2020, 09:24:45 PM
I can see there lots of new casinos and sportsbooks site are launching recently. It's getting really tough to make an conclusion which one is legit and which one ain't. Anyway, your attempts give newbies more confidence. As OP have listed nitrogensports, which make me confused. I have some history with nitro, not a regular but your statements make me forced to go trough with an investigation.
New gambling platforms launch almost every month and scammers come back under different brands, unfortunately. Having a list of scam casinos will prevent the gamblers from getting in touch with scammers and they will think twice next time if they fall into the trap of scam casinos. Nitrogensports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=88706) has the official forum account and you can check the scam accusations on the related boards of the forum.
This is the hard part when you do really making out such list yet this will be never ending list since every now and then theres a new gambling site that do launched and sooner or later these sites turns out
to be a scam.Example on the list is nitro and we cant deny that this one is pretty old eh but i didnt expect that they do already had those accusations until now which isnt resolved.Theyre just trying to
waste up the reputation that they had built for years which they should at least try to fix things up. Talking on the list then those names are pretty common but majority of them is
really out of my scope and i dont have experience on playing on it.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on November 15, 2020, 08:14:14 PM
I am adding AceDBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.0) casino on list of casinos you should be careful if you use them.
They don't have negative feedback yet, but I see reports from people and complains that their withdrawal system is not working good now.
There are many delays and support is slow to respond, and I am putting them on my grey list with Duckdice.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: ice098 on November 15, 2020, 09:19:08 PM
I am adding AceDBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.0) casino on list of casinos you should be careful if you use them.
They don't have negative feedback yet, but I see reports from people and complains that their withdrawal system is not working good now.
There are many delays and support is slow to respond, and I am putting them on my grey list with Duckdice.

You should provide the proof as well not only saying to add that casino and be careful. So that people will believe in you.


Well OP this is good you have your list of the website that we will avoid to pay with, thank you for that, right now Im on hiatus and didn't play so much gambling due to pandemic maybe soon.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on November 15, 2020, 09:23:57 PM
You should provide the proof as well not only saying to add that casino and be careful. So that people will believe in you.
Link for their ANN topic is provided here in previous post and on first page of this topic, and I don't ask people to believe my words.
Check last few pages of their topic and you will see people complaining.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: EdenHazard on November 15, 2020, 09:50:58 PM
I can see there lots of new casinos and sportsbooks site are launching recently. It's getting really tough to make an conclusion which one is legit and which one ain't. Anyway, your attempts give newbies more confidence. As OP have listed nitrogensports, which make me confused. I have some history with nitro, not a regular but your statements make me forced to go trough with an investigation.
New gambling platforms launch almost every month and scammers come back under different brands, unfortunately. Having a list of scam casinos will prevent the gamblers from getting in touch with scammers and they will think twice next time if they fall into the trap of scam casinos. Nitrogensports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=88706) has the official forum account and you can check the scam accusations on the related boards of the forum.
Daaamn nitogen are on the list? They are pretty active making promotion in this forum and they still do also i know they are big player in crypto gambling industry this is a shame indeed. I've several bad experiences with them too , having my account get frozen while the money in it seized. They have very weak security layers .. as often users get blamed but it's actually their own errors lol

it was my personal point of view about how bad nitrogen it is and now i could agree that nitrogen have to be avoided as a whole.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: BuNga_cute on November 15, 2020, 10:19:28 PM
Thank you for sharing a list of online casinos to avoid, this is very helpful for members of this forum. to be honest i was surprised
about the update regarding AceDBets started to have problems, Even though I last tried to use it in October 2020, I didn't have
a problem. It turns out that now there are many complaints because cannot make withdrawals and their support services are slow
responding. Hopefully AceDBets will solve the withdrawal-related problems soon, otherwise the promotions they do on this forum
will be in vain.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: TimeTeller on November 15, 2020, 11:20:21 PM
I am adding AceDBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.0) casino on list of casinos you should be careful if you use them.
They don't have negative feedback yet, but I see reports from people and complains that their withdrawal system is not working good now.
There are many delays and support is slow to respond, and I am putting them on my grey list with Duckdice.

You should provide the proof as well not only saying to add that casino and be careful. So that people will believe in you.


Well OP this is good you have your list of the website that we will avoid to pay with, thank you for that, right now Im on hiatus and didn't play so much gambling due to pandemic maybe soon.

I encountered the thread of that AcedBets, and they said they will the rectify their situation as per this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.msg55574339#msg55574339)
Maybe they need a lil bit more time from their end. But if this prob will go for months, I guess they need to be in the list.
So people will avoid this casino for now. And just go there once all issues are resolved.



Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Alucard1 on November 15, 2020, 11:44:06 PM
Thank you for compiling all those who scam casinos and sportsbooks, it will help other members especially newbies and active gambler on what to avoid, they have now the knowledge to know some legit and some fake casino gambling. Nothing's so special with that for those who are not so active gambler but for those who always want to gamble an try a new one with the faster transaction and have good bonuses, they ate looking for other website and now you already mentioned all those they should avoid, thanks for that.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on November 16, 2020, 12:28:02 AM
I added one more casino Betking.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0) to my red list,
because of many Scam accusations, they have been hacked before and lost investors funds, but now they decided to start and relaunch same casino again.
I don't feel safe using it or depositing any coins there, but do your own research.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: covfefe_ on November 16, 2020, 04:39:30 AM
Don't know his exact intentions but Dean Nolan has failed to keep his words on so much occasions that Betking or anything coming from him would not be worth investing or even depositing a good sum to play. Though the game outcomes maybe fair, it won't be worth if you can't withdraw it.
I would also suggest to include full domain on the list as many scam gambling sites uses the same name with a different tlds. Users could get deceived by the name and develop an false understanding about the legit ones with the same name.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Ziskinberg on November 16, 2020, 04:44:30 AM
I added one more casino Betking.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0) to my red list,
because of many Scam accusations, they have been hacked before and lost investors funds, but now they decided to start and relaunch same casino again.
I don't feel safe using it or depositing any coins there, but do your own research.
Yeah, I saw that, they created a thread and want to start over again, however, people here won't forget the scam and I'm glad they receive a lot of criticism in the community. Keep updating the thread OP, great job!


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: carlisle1 on November 16, 2020, 05:02:59 AM
I just visited this thread it's really useful not just for newbies who are looking for casinos but some of us who are not familiar with other casinos and might looking for a new one this could guide them in choosing the right casino or gambling sites.
Those listed sites are very popular in this forum as we can see their name from time to time in Scam accusation section or in reputation.

But whats better in this thread is They are now in Gallery in which People will find their name from time to time as this will surely be bumped continuously .

Thanks OP for the Effort and Guts.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: coupable on November 16, 2020, 09:53:57 PM
I added one more casino Betking.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0) to my red list,
because of many Scam accusations, they have been hacked before and lost investors funds, but now they decided to start and relaunch same casino again.
I don't feel safe using it or depositing any coins there, but do your own research.
Well, no one expected that betking will return after all the confirmed accusations against it. It was clear that he came back to scam more money as he published a self-moderated topic. And as you stated, it's a must to DYOR before using any service with your money or your personal data .


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: TopT3ns on November 16, 2020, 11:45:56 PM
I added one more casino Betking.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0) to my red list,
because of many Scam accusations, they have been hacked before and lost investors funds, but now they decided to start and relaunch same casino again.
I don't feel safe using it or depositing any coins there, but do your own research.
Well, no one expected that betking will return after all the confirmed accusations against it. It was clear that he came back to scam more money as he published a self-moderated topic. And as you stated, it's a must to DYOR before using any service with your money or your personal data .
if there is something like that, I would rather immediately withdraw assets and don't want to gamble there anymore because it only makes losses and wastes time, there are still many online gambling sites that can be used and can make a lot of profit.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: coupable on November 17, 2020, 10:29:53 PM
I added one more casino Betking.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0) to my red list,
because of many Scam accusations, they have been hacked before and lost investors funds, but now they decided to start and relaunch same casino again.
I don't feel safe using it or depositing any coins there, but do your own research.
Well, no one expected that betking will return after all the confirmed accusations against it. It was clear that he came back to scam more money as he published a self-moderated topic. And as you stated, it's a must to DYOR before using any service with your money or your personal data .
if there is something like that, I would rather immediately withdraw assets and don't want to gamble there anymore because it only makes losses and wastes time, there are still many online gambling sites that can be used and can make a lot of profit.
You shouldn't use that website at all costs. Betking project (if we can call it a project) scammed investors during ico 2016. Team was proved suspected in many other accusations then after lunching the website was announced hacked and think how many users lost their deposit. Check this old topic for further information : BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4751127.0)


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on November 22, 2020, 04:27:49 PM
AceDBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.0) website is not working today and showing 522 error, and with all the issues with withdrawal, slow support they showed before, I am now moving them to my red list for websites to avoid.

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Casino to Avoid Reasons for avoiding
1. Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) Using the 777Coin name, Scam accusations, Fake provably fair, Negative feedback, Death threats, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
2. Satoshi Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283572.0)  Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
3. Crypsino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214440.0) Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
4. Bitstarz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651730.0) Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, Not paying
5. 1xbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0) Many Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, locking users funds
6. 888STARZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250346) Scam Accussations, 1xbet owned, locking users funds
7. Wixiplay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261052.0) Fake provably fair, Negative feedback
8. Cryptodice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264759.0) Negative feedback, Not responding to scam accusations, Satoshidice old name
9. Megadice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828431.0) Open Scam accusations, Owner not responding
10. Safedice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868275.0) Negative feedback, Owners are not active and not responding
11. Betmatch (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5029854.0) Banned from forum, Scam accusations, holding payouts, bad support
12. Nitrogensports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159098.0) Negative feedback, Bad customer support, Confusing rollover rule
13. ZigZagsports (https://web.archive.org/web/20201001001903/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279105.0) Website not working 404 error, Changing domains RU
14. Betking.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0) Scam accusations, Hacked, Lost investors funds
15. AceDBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.0) issues with withdrawal, slow support, website not working


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: safari88 on November 22, 2020, 04:48:16 PM
do you mind adding the 1xbit to your list? i've seen on the gambling section that their thread and their account is a bit active as of now so i think you should include them to your list too, from time to time some users are posting on their thread about their accusation to 1xbit it's important for the people to know that this website should no trusted.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: ecnalubma on November 22, 2020, 05:32:40 PM
Thank you for this list OP, I hope that other dishonest online casinos will be busted soon.

In have bad experience with one of those casinos too. Its alarming because until now they are still energetic to promote their websites in different social media platforms. I think its better to leave also a negative feedbacks to their pages so that potential victims will be warned.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: jostorres on November 23, 2020, 05:30:46 PM
Thank you for this list OP, I hope that other dishonest online casinos will be busted soon.

In have bad experience with one of those casinos too. Its alarming because until now they are still energetic to promote their websites in different social media platforms. I think its better to leave also a negative feedbacks to their pages so that potential victims will be warned.
The worst thing is that these sportsbooks and casinos are going good and suddenly there are problems which is the most problematic part because like if a casino has scam intentions it should better scam and go way but some will stay in the market unless they can find the biggest opportunity to scam.

There used to be a casino I remember called as dicebitco.in or something like that, they were among the biggest casino at that time and a user found how they were cheating so it would have never been known had he not made it public.

1xbit is another crazy scam thing because they are selective scam and will pay some to keep their name going and once they get the opportunity they will scam.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on November 25, 2020, 03:43:10 PM
Adkinsbet is now having many DDOS attacks, so watch out for that if you are using them.
I hope they will fix this issue soon and have more protection.

do you mind adding the 1xbit to your list? i've seen on the gambling section that their thread and their account is a bit active as of now so i think you should include them to your list too, from time to time some users are posting on their thread about their accusation to 1xbit it's important for the people to know that this website should no trusted.

Yes, I added 1xbit to the red list.
They are notorious and known in bitcointalk forum for many Scam accusations, negative feedback and bad support.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Naamandror on November 25, 2020, 04:06:36 PM
I am not fan of nitrogen but to write they scam people and to be aware of the site its bolshit, yes i am playing in stake and i move from nitrogen after 2 years but dmm why to write something that not true yes nitrogen far behind in alot of things but they are fair bookie


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: DarkDays on November 25, 2020, 05:04:09 PM
This is an interesting list you provided, and I think invaluable to new gamblers on here.

It was surprising to see at least 2 casinos on the back of Coin777, and these are just the ones you had an experience with. I won't be surprised if more people will start asking to add more to this list as I'm sure there are plenty more casinos with a bad reputation not worth being up and running, and people need to be made aware of them.

In any case, the fact that you started compiling this list is already quite useful to many on here.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: codegnome on November 25, 2020, 07:20:34 PM
It is very difficult to make a suggestion or take things as true based on the opinion of one person. What is a good casino for one person may be a lot less good for another. And we often see that a casino is portrayed as a scam, while a week later you see that it has been resolved.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: sunsilk on November 27, 2020, 03:16:10 AM
Thanks for the list that serves as a warning.

I'm just roaming around the Gambling section and usually, users that have complaints with casinos are mainly posting there and have thought that it will take the attention of everyone even the owners of those casinos. If I saw one thread there and still not yet updated with resolution from the casino they complain about, I'll suggest it here.

I am not fan of nitrogen but to write they scam people and to be aware of the site its bolshit, yes i am playing in stake and i move from nitrogen after 2 years but dmm why to write something that not true yes nitrogen far behind in alot of things but they are fair bookie
Their glory days were good but today, there were vast complaints that are being said. Just go to their thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355081.0) and look at the complaints.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: bunglor on November 27, 2020, 07:21:20 AM
maybe you can add this to your list? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293254.20 It's a new casino that claims to be anonymous but if you are going to read the terms and condition they would ask you at some point to verify your identity through kyc procedure. i haven't yet confirmed if they are a scam casino but they don't have license and asking for kyc i don't think if that's right so i think it's better to list as one of the casinos to avoid.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: imstillthebest on November 27, 2020, 08:46:09 AM
It is very difficult to make a suggestion or take things as true based on the opinion of one person. What is a good casino for one person may be a lot less good for another. And we often see that a casino is portrayed as a scam, while a week later you see that it has been resolved.
people that have issues should wait for a week or longer than that if needed and if the issue is not easy to resolve before they make a thread of complaints and accuse because it will be damaging to the reputation of the casino and also to the complainer if they dont give time to each other . on the list there are casino that are found out to be a real scam because not only few people that complain on them and experience an issue and it was also  almost a year but issues havent still resolved .


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: XZERO1 on November 27, 2020, 11:07:48 AM
It is very difficult to make a suggestion or take things as true based on the opinion of one person. What is a good casino for one person may be a lot less good for another. And we often see that a casino is portrayed as a scam, while a week later you see that it has been resolved.

It's actually pretty easy, or we can say the forum made it easier to find the legitimate gambling websites, just take a look at "Gambling" section, there are many ANN threads opened by the owners/admins of these websites and you can read through different posts in their topic to get some sense about how their website is doing and whether they are trusted or not by just reading members posts there, there could be some spams there as well but many of the posts are from the real users of that casino website and they usually share issues there in the topic if they have any, just don't trust the self-moderated topics since OP can delete any post that they don't like in those threads.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: janggernaut on November 27, 2020, 12:24:09 PM
@notblox1, Since AceDbet has confirmed their withdrawal has working again (one of their user confirmed as well has received his money after 9 days), maybe you can remove their site from your list

Here is AceDbets admin said,

Hi for all AceDBets users,

It has been 8 months since the first release of our product, we solved lots of problems till that time and we made great progress in betting section of our platform!

We never missed any withdrawal in this period and ofcourse we do not think to miss after now.

2 weeks ago our user base increased a lot - thank you all- but of course some cheaters started to test our system too and we noticed a disproportionate increase in some user earnings.

In 2 weeks, we almost checked every user bets' logs, times and stategies to prevent damage. We experienced communication interruptions with users due to our busyness.

We found all cheater accounts and vulnerabilities in our system and now we are ready to process all withdrawals.

Our team is dealing with too many things same time including Casino, Affiliate and Promotion updates besides these cheaters.


Please be patience and trust AceD Team!
-AceDBets Dev.

I'm not affiliated with AceDbets anyway


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: kamadazje on November 27, 2020, 01:25:54 PM
Keep on updating this information as it is very useful to all the gamblers out there so we will have a reference on what casinos to avoid because of their bad reputation and scam accusations.

This can surely help many gamblers especially that there are plenty of casinos right now that are popping up from nowhere while claiming that they are legitimate but in the end they will just scam the money of their players.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: BitAnaBit on November 27, 2020, 03:55:06 PM
It is very difficult to make a suggestion or take things as true based on the opinion of one person. What is a good casino for one person may be a lot less good for another. And we often see that a casino is portrayed as a scam, while a week later you see that it has been resolved.

It seems like a lot of people think that KYC itself is a scam, regardless of the casino's legitimacy to withhold funds when the wrong details were provided.

On one hand, I understand this perspective. Casinos often accept registrations and even deposits without requesting documents, but then withhold winnings before those can be verified. Customers that have already deposited and won obviously feel cheated.

On the other hand, casinos holding licenses (even less-demanding licenses such as the Curaçao one, which seems likely to get stricter - https://casinosblockchain.io/new-gambling-regulator-curacao/ (https://casinosblockchain.io/new-gambling-regulator-curacao/)) are required to do so. As someone who's worked on the casino-side a few years ago, I can tell you first-hand that game providers themselves like NetEnt and Microgaming also pressure the casinos to do it for their own legal protection.

All in all, I think in many cases, 'funds withheld' scams can be avoided with proper information. The casinos themselves should definitely make an effort to disclose that information, of course (maybe even request KYC before deposits).

Personally, I think the best option for a casino that has to do KYC is forcing it right after registration. Then, playing straight from e-wallets for crypto users, meaning no need for 'deposits and withdrawals'. That way, nobody gets hurt.

However, like many here have said, players should research the casinos before committing their Bitcoin.

Reading threads like this help, but I think searching for other sources of information is important as well, like comparison websites.

As long as they're well-researched, those pages can tell you if things like KYC are required, so you're not in for an unpleasant surprise.
https://casinosblockchain.io/bitstarz-review/
 (https://casinosblockchain.io/bitstarz-review/)

On that note, sites like those can really benefit from user reviews! ;)


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: CarnagexD on November 27, 2020, 07:25:32 PM
You might wanna include YOBIT in here too, a lot of prople are complaining ever since about their games being rigged and faking provably fair to take advantage of their patron players. Though it's great that you have this special list so we can be vigilant even more when betting. Gambling is already an unfair game, so it's best to seize every opportunity to tip the scales in our favor.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: iv4n on November 27, 2020, 08:53:42 PM
You might wanna include YOBIT in here too, a lot of prople are complaining ever since about their games being rigged and faking provably fair to take advantage of their patron players. Though it's great that you have this special list so we can be vigilant even more when betting. Gambling is already an unfair game, so it's best to seize every opportunity to tip the scales in our favor.

Yobit and their famous dices! Did they add some new games except dice? I didn't open yobit for a long time! I am not sure do they belong to this list or not, but people should definitely avoid yobit dices!
Nice list! Most of these casinos have accusations here on forum and other places! It's good to highlight them so people can easily see them and stay away from them!


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: acroman08 on November 27, 2020, 09:05:09 PM
You might wanna include YOBIT in here too, a lot of prople are complaining ever since about their games being rigged and faking provably fair to take advantage of their patron players. Though it's great that you have this special list so we can be vigilant even more when betting. Gambling is already an unfair game, so it's best to seize every opportunity to tip the scales in our favor.
someone already suggested adding Yobit but I think the OP is focused on online casino or sportsbooks only and not an exchange site that features a gambling game on their website.

Yobit and their famous dices! Did they add some new games except dice? I didn't open yobit for a long time! I am not sure do they belong to this list or not, but people should definitely avoid yobit dices!
Nice list! Most of these casinos have accusations here on forum and other places! It's good to highlight them so people can easily see them and stay away from them!
last time I checked they have a YoPony. it's horse race game. although I am not sure if they added more since I haven't visited their website for a while now.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Lanatsa on November 27, 2020, 09:09:42 PM
You might wanna include YOBIT in here too, a lot of prople are complaining ever since about their games being rigged and faking provably fair to take advantage of their patron players. Though it's great that you have this special list so we can be vigilant even more when betting. Gambling is already an unfair game, so it's best to seize every opportunity to tip the scales in our favor.
someone already suggested adding Yobit but I think the OP is focused on online casino or sportsbooks only and not an exchange site that features a gambling game on their website.

But it wouldn't harm out if they would include it on the list because I cant just blame out people not to have these negativity towards Yobits dice game or even with that
Yopony that you had mentioned.Yes, this might be not an online casino but basing of with gaming or gambling category which I do see for it to fit.

@OP, I do appreciate this kind of list which would people make aware and would able to avoid these places so that they wouldn't lost up their deposits.

We should be careful and be keen on reading up things for our own good.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: cabalism13 on November 27, 2020, 09:23:11 PM
Adkinsbet is now having many DDOS attacks, so watch out for that if you are using them.
I hope they will fix this issue soon and have more protection.
Any Updates? I think it wouldn't be for long for this attack and they'll surely fix this. Besides it's a common thing for all of the new websites especially if they're a casino or an exchange.
Adkinsbet is now having many DDOS attacks, so watch out for that if you are using them.
They are notorious and known in bitcointalk forum for many Scam accusations, negative feedback and bad support.
AFAIK, they already stopped advertising here in this forum but still their ANN stays at the edge of the pit.
IMO, Scam Sites and other Projects that has no capability of working out whose ANN is still posted somewhere should be deleted from this forum. That way new guests will never be able to find them, and be a victim of these sites (though we know some of the lists - like this, already helps)


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: acroman08 on November 27, 2020, 10:10:14 PM
You might wanna include YOBIT in here too, a lot of prople are complaining ever since about their games being rigged and faking provably fair to take advantage of their patron players. Though it's great that you have this special list so we can be vigilant even more when betting. Gambling is already an unfair game, so it's best to seize every opportunity to tip the scales in our favor.
someone already suggested adding Yobit but I think the OP is focused on online casino or sportsbooks only and not an exchange site that features a gambling game on their website.

But it wouldn't harm out if they would include it on the list because I cant just blame out people not to have these negativity towards Yobits dice game or even with that
Yopony that you had mentioned.Yes, this might be not an online casino but basing of with gaming or gambling category which I do see for it to fit.

@OP, I do appreciate this kind of list which would people make aware and would able to avoid these places so that they wouldn't lost up their deposits.

We should be careful and be keen on reading up things for our own good.
although I agree with you that is should be added, but it would still be the OP's decision in the end. besides anyone looking for an online crypto dice games wouldn't stumble upon yobit unless to dig enough or they are specifically looking for it. but yeah, I think it should be included too but on a separate list or as a special mention or something like that.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: johhnyUA on November 27, 2020, 10:11:49 PM
Please, add this one - https://bet1-x00495.com/

This is 1xBet, in fact, the same (I even think that they has one owner) as 1xbit. If you betting and winning, they will at first ask you for KYC and then block you. So they don't even scam you, but also will left your data to themselves. Scammy book


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: TedMosby on November 27, 2020, 11:16:09 PM
maybe you could check wbet7 too.
previously, a member here who is a player on wbet7 too created a thread about that site.
he was faced with a pending withdrawal of a big amount of money on wbet7,
he told us that he would commit suicide because of this case.

source:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269597.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5268246


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Inkdatar on November 27, 2020, 11:38:02 PM
Thanks Op for having the time to post it here. A lot of online casinos in this industry so this is also an awareness that even some popular gambling casino still do have bad feedback or a bad reputation.  Just like nitrogen sports I often use their platform to bet online. So, this is also a plus to me, and this is necessary that we should always take time and be cautious before using their platform to bet.



Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on November 28, 2020, 02:03:12 AM
maybe you could check wbet7 too.

Thank you for suggestion.
I added wbet7 to my red list, and I would not trust them with my bitcoins, but I also don't trust feedback from one of the members you posted link.
Member wbet7pending sent me and other members spam messages so I don't take his feedback seriously.
You can read more about wbet7pending in this topic and see how he offered me and others to bet on his fake fixed matches:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282860


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Lordhermes on November 28, 2020, 07:15:40 AM
I really know Acedbets could have problems with their platform, even their signature wasn't perfectly done as expected,
Since AceDbet has confirmed their withdrawal has working again (one of their user confirmed as well has received his money after 9 days), maybe you can remove their site from your list
Well,if this is actually true then op should remove it.

Adkinsbet too have a problem with their DDos attack, but hoping to resolve this issue in coming time, a user said it had been solved.
Checking up into their main thread.It seems the problem had already been resolved.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: darewaller on November 28, 2020, 06:56:26 PM
Thanks Op for having the time to post it here. A lot of online casinos in this industry so this is also an awareness that even some popular gambling casino still do have bad feedback or a bad reputation.  Just like nitrogen sports I often use their platform to bet online. So, this is also a plus to me, and this is necessary that we should always take time and be cautious before using their platform to bet.
Nitrogen is actually a curious case because I have online friends who still play there despite knowing the whole story behind them but because nitrogen pays them they don't care. I don't even know why people take risks with these sites who have been indulged in wrong doings but anyways good to have a list and forward to someone who is new to crypto casinos.

There are so many dice sits listed in OP which I don't even know and I would never try a new dice gaming site because there can be flaws in the provably fair system as well apart from the other problems like blocked withdrawals and poor support.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: TheGreatPython on November 29, 2020, 03:08:52 PM
Please, add this one - https://bet1-x00495.com/

This is 1xBet, in fact, the same (I even think that they has one owner) as 1xbit. If you betting and winning, they will at first ask you for KYC and then block you. So they don't even scam you, but also will left your data to themselves. Scammy book
How strange of a URL this is in first place and imagine playing on such domains. I tried to visit the website but it loads in some other language and the website loading time was like 2-3 minutes and still not fully loaded so not just scammers they are a team of horrendous developers as well it seems. Don't mean to offend any developers but the site is seriously terrible.

They ask for KYC and block? That's the funniest thing because why even ask for verification when they have no intentions of paying. Maybe they are going to sell your ID and make some extra bucks with it.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Ziskinberg on November 29, 2020, 11:39:12 PM
They ask for KYC and block? That's the funniest thing because why even ask for verification when they have no intentions of paying. Maybe they are going to sell your ID and make some extra bucks with it.

We are very stupid if we comply with the KYC on a non reputable site, that's a double whammy, we lose our money and at the same time we might be at risk of some identity thief, even in legit site, I don't trust them to give my real information, let's enjoy anonymity in gambling.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: arwin100 on November 29, 2020, 11:51:25 PM
They ask for KYC and block? That's the funniest thing because why even ask for verification when they have no intentions of paying. Maybe they are going to sell your ID and make some extra bucks with it.

We are very stupid if we comply with the KYC on a non reputable site, that's a double whammy, we lose our money and at the same time we might be at risk of some identity thief, even in legit site, I don't trust them to give my real information, let's enjoy anonymity in gambling.

If our brains are intact for sure we will never trust those un reputable casino who ask our identity since it's like a rock smash on our heads if we do that. And this is not right to do since the essence of crypto is anonymity (IMO) so better really if we trust those casino who doesn't required to do that with long reputation hold here and it's enjoyable atmosphere to play without anything to worry.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: aomakun on November 30, 2020, 12:02:31 AM
KYC can be an annoying thing but certainly shouldn't cause any problems. it also depends on how a casino deals with it.
If they have received the documents and they have quickly gone through the KYC procedure, then I do not see the problem.
Unless you really don't want to disclose any personal information at all.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: wiss19 on November 30, 2020, 04:56:13 AM
You might wanna include YOBIT in here too, a lot of prople are complaining ever since about their games being rigged and faking provably fair to take advantage of their patron players. Though it's great that you have this special list so we can be vigilant even more when betting. Gambling is already an unfair game, so it's best to seize every opportunity to tip the scales in our favor.
Well said, Yobit deserves to be in this list I agree because their dice game is not even provably fair if I remember right because I haven't played there since a long time so I don't know how they operate now but earlier their game was not verifiable and can't accuse them to scam but the rolls were more red than green not just some days but always.

Thanks for the nice list OP but you can add a lot more websites I think and keep the good work going. You might want to add sites like 999dice which are known scams too.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on December 08, 2020, 02:06:29 PM
Added new casino to my red list of casinos to avoid: BitcoinCasino.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0).
They are not active in bitcointalk forum anymore, but they have open scam accusation, and you must submit kyc documents if you want to withdraw anything.
This is just my opinion so don't trust my words but read feedbacks and do your own research.



Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: peter0425 on December 08, 2020, 02:50:35 PM
Added new casino to my red list of casinos to avoid: BitcoinCasino.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0).
They are not active in bitcointalk forum anymore, but they have open scam accusation, and you must submit kyc documents if you want to withdraw anything.
This is just my opinion so don't trust my words but read feedbacks and do your own research.


I try checking the Site and it seems that Its very slow and looks like there has no active player as the chat respondent is Bot and no one Playing.

So maybe that is Exit scam and no plan of cleaning their name.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: mardaed on December 08, 2020, 04:07:44 PM
Added new casino to my red list of casinos to avoid: BitcoinCasino.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0).
They are not active in bitcointalk forum anymore, but they have open scam accusation, and you must submit kyc documents if you want to withdraw anything.
This is just my opinion so don't trust my words but read feedbacks and do your own research.


I try checking the Site and it seems that Its very slow and looks like there has no active player as the chat respondent is Bot and no one Playing.

So maybe that is Exit scam and no plan of cleaning their name.

Now that you have mentioned it, I also tried checking their site and I also experienced a slow and inactive casino site. Maybe you are right that this is their way of exiting with the accusations being thrown at them, which made me realize that unless casino clear their name and faced all of the matters concerning players’ experiences with them, they will not be able to bring back the trust and drive of players to deal with them anymore.


Title: Re: List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: Cling18 on December 08, 2020, 05:11:35 PM
I'm sure there's still a lot to add in that list OP if the basis is only he scam accusation threads in the forum. I think plenty of casinos here have scam accusation and yet there are still plenty of people trusting their website. Anyway, good job, at least they'll know when the thread will add more.

I was actually too experimental before that I always try playing in different gambling sites. However, I haven't tried any of these sites because I have been reading bad things and lots of accusations about them. It's really important that we'll do our own research before choosing a gambling site. Thanks for sharing this list, Op. At least we'll know what to avoid. There are still lots of active sites with negative accusations so we better be observant and skeptical about selecting a platform. I hope you could add more to the list to warn more users.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: jaberwock on December 11, 2020, 08:08:44 AM
Added new casino to my red list of casinos to avoid: BitcoinCasino.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0).
They are not active in bitcointalk forum anymore, but they have open scam accusation, and you must submit kyc documents if you want to withdraw anything.
This is just my opinion so don't trust my words but read feedbacks and do your own research.
I almost thought you accused bitcasino.io but then realized it's different actually. They indeed are inactive and the scam accusation against them in unsolved so yeah they also are fishy.

The website is slow to load and the ANN on bitcointalk is so rough and old that one who plays here is likely to get in some kind of trouble.

They have some contests going on and some players are shown like XXX won 100 uBTC which I am not sure are real or even updated.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: bitterguy28 on December 11, 2020, 08:26:57 AM
Added new casino to my red list of casinos to avoid: BitcoinCasino.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0).
They are not active in bitcointalk forum anymore, but they have open scam accusation, and you must submit kyc documents if you want to withdraw anything.
This is just my opinion so don't trust my words but read feedbacks and do your own research.
I almost thought you accused bitcasino.io but then realized it's different actually. They indeed are inactive and the scam accusation against them in unsolved so yeah they also are fishy.

The website is slow to load and the ANN on bitcointalk is so rough and old that one who plays here is likely to get in some kind of trouble.

They have some contests going on and some players are shown like XXX won 100 uBTC which I am not sure are real or even updated.
I also thought it was lol,so i checked the Scam accusation section and the reputation but Find no big issue like what mentioned.But checking in browser there it goes Bitcoincasino.io almost sounds like Bitcasino.io lol.
That was a dead casino and no players already ,but the site is still working and looks like at some time they will go back to operate,or maybe they still assuming that there will some freelance gambler that will try playing and might lose.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: FontSeli on December 11, 2020, 10:20:42 AM
You have a good selection of gambling sites where people should not register.
However, I found a slight inaccuracy:

5. 1xbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0) Many Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, locking users funds

After following the links you provided (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0), I saw that the name of the gambling site is slightly different. It should be written correctly as: 1XBIT
If this site has several names, it seems to me that you should specify them all.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: johhnyUA on December 11, 2020, 10:51:03 PM
After following the links you provided (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0), I saw that the name of the gambling site is slightly different. It should be written correctly as: 1XBIT
If this site has several names, it seems to me that you should specify them all.

I dont want to have some misunderstanding, but isn't 1XBIT is the same as 1XBET and his clone OneX? All is the same non licensed russian book site with many complains and scam accusations. Am i wrong or not? 


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Yamifoud on December 11, 2020, 11:40:09 PM
After following the links you provided (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0), I saw that the name of the gambling site is slightly different. It should be written correctly as: 1XBIT
If this site has several names, it seems to me that you should specify them all.

I dont want to have some misunderstanding, but isn't 1XBIT is the same as 1XBET and his clone OneX? All is the same non licensed russian book site with many complains and scam accusations. Am i wrong or not? 
Probably right, using another name just to hide their original account and the purpose of scamming innocent people again. But no matter how they do, they can't still hide their true identity, they are already familiar to the community and I believe that many of us here are already aware of this kind of trick.

A huge number of scam sites appear this time and we can't neglect that some of these sites are controlled by the same group of people/individuals.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: FontSeli on December 12, 2020, 07:08:42 AM
After following the links you provided (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0), I saw that the name of the gambling site is slightly different. It should be written correctly as: 1XBIT
If this site has several names, it seems to me that you should specify them all.

I dont want to have some misunderstanding, but isn't 1XBIT is the same as 1XBET and his clone OneX? All is the same non licensed russian book site with many complains and scam accusations. Am i wrong or not? 

I think they have a lot of names because Roskomnadzor constantly blocks their domain names due to fraud charges. However, 1XBIT of 1XBET it was their very first and principal names. So I would put them in the list. Especially on the forum, this site was originally known in 2016 under the name IXBIT: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1656122.0


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Rodeo02 on December 13, 2020, 01:21:01 PM
It's a good job so we can be more wary of these gambling sites. Perhaps if OP could add a link proving that the site was a scam,
this would be more complete. But I think it's enough as an illustration to choose which gambling place is reliable and will keep
our funds safe. So is when we're going to take our money. It must be ensured there are no obstacles.
Fraudsters are growing more and more, and it does likely the possibility that scamming gambling sites will also grow to flourish.
Yes this one is very helpful thread for those person that looking to play in gambling they can avoid gambling with scams Accusations or red flags review from users.

This thread should always be updated with newly and all old scam gambling websites so they can avoid playing with it .


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: kkaroul4 on December 13, 2020, 03:09:03 PM
That's was some really good summary of Bookies to avoid. It's great that it's updated. Anyways is there a chance that some bookies might be removed from the list? maybe after resolving some cases and the likes or maybe it's much better to create a list and tag them by legends: red - avoid, orange - open accusation - green good or something.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: bunglor on December 13, 2020, 03:49:16 PM
That's was some really good summary of Bookies to avoid. It's great that it's updated. Anyways is there a chance that some bookies might be removed from the list? maybe after resolving some cases and the likes or maybe it's much better to create a list and tag them by legends: red - avoid, orange - open accusation - green good or something.

that would be a little bit of a work i think it's better to list down by that to avoid the reasons were pretty clear and i think that's all true.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: BTCGOLD on December 13, 2020, 04:07:46 PM
That's was some really good summary of Bookies to avoid. It's great that it's updated. Anyways is there a chance that some bookies might be removed from the list? maybe after resolving some cases and the likes or maybe it's much better to create a list and tag them by legends: red - avoid, orange - open accusation - green good or something.


I also think it's a good initiative from someone who has put in the time to make other users aware of this.
Unfortunately far too many people are being scammed and in this way we can reduce those opportunities.
The idea with the colours is also fine. As sometimes there is a big gap between red and green, and light green is something else as normal green.
Orange would work good.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: sayaya17 on December 13, 2020, 09:11:05 PM
Gambling is indeed a high risk if we can not choose which gambling sites are reliable. OP’s advice and experience, good for us to consider,
because the gambling sites that OP has written here, are a list of sites to avoid. Not that these sites are fraudsters. That’s what OP means.
If we read the thread to the end.
This is the best reference, as I also don’t do this much analysis for any gambling site. But this will help if when we want to play gambling
in a lot of gambling. And we better not use the services of gambling sites listed in this thread.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on December 18, 2020, 10:22:20 PM
It's already hard winning without any tricks alone in the gambling industry, we have to make sure we're not taken advantage of by these Casinos or Sportbooks. Especially now that bitcoin had reached 20k, a lot of these scams and gambling sites will go bananas in getting more people to use their services. Be mindful and make sure you don't bet your way into hell.
Gambling is indeed a high risk if we can not choose which gambling sites are reliable. OP’s advice and experience, good for us to consider,
because the gambling sites that OP has written here, are a list of sites to avoid. Not that these sites are fraudsters. That’s what OP means.
If we read the thread to the end.
This is the best reference, as I also don’t do this much analysis for any gambling site. But this will help if when we want to play gambling
in a lot of gambling. And we better not use the services of gambling sites listed in this thread.
You have a good selection of gambling sites where people should not register.
However, I found a slight inaccuracy:

5. 1xbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0) Many Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, locking users funds

After following the links you provided (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0), I saw that the name of the gambling site is slightly different. It should be written correctly as: 1XBIT
If this site has several names, it seems to me that you should specify them all.
If he coukd put up a link instead to these sites, even if they were taken down by their owners it would be much better, this way even if he makes a slight incorrection, SEO will take care of it and would route him to the site to be avoided. Nonetheless, the list is already comprehensive in and of itself but due to the bitcoin season, we may see this list get longer from time to time as new scam and shitty gambling sites arise from thin air.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: FontSeli on December 18, 2020, 10:39:12 PM
You have a good selection of gambling sites where people should not register.
However, I found a slight inaccuracy:

5. 1xbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0) Many Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, locking users funds

After following the links you provided (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0), I saw that the name of the gambling site is slightly different. It should be written correctly as: 1XBIT
If this site has several names, it seems to me that you should specify them all.
If he coukd put up a link instead to these sites, even if they were taken down by their owners it would be much better, this way even if he makes a slight incorrection, SEO will take care of it and would route him to the site to be avoided. Nonetheless, the list is already comprehensive in and of itself but due to the bitcoin season, we may see this list get longer from time to time as new scam and shitty gambling sites arise from thin air.


Maybe in general, then no one should write about fraudulent sites so as not to increase their SEO citation index?
On the contrary, the more often we mention these sites with the indication that they are scammers, the more likely that people who will search for information about these sites will also find our forum and read that these sites deceive people. So I don't see anything wrong with specifying additional domain names for scam sites. After all, they are constantly creating new domains in an attempt to avoid charges.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Lordhermes on December 18, 2020, 11:02:23 PM
That’s what OP means.
If we read the thread to the end.
This is the best reference, as I also don’t do this much analysis for any gambling site. But this will help if when we want to play gambling
in a lot of gambling. And we better not use the services of gambling sites listed in this thread.
Yes, but what amazed me most is that some of the gambling platforms/websites had conducted signature campaign here on the forum paying at average amount to users, Nitrogen sport, Betking, 1xbit, and Acedbets had all done signature campaign. This had started teaching me some lessons as to be careful to what we promote here on the forum, some might spend some huge about of money thinking they really care about your winning but the opposite happens.
The must is awesome


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on December 22, 2020, 11:44:09 PM
What is interesting is that 1xbet website is official sponsor for Italian Seria A, Spanish La Liga and FC Barcelona in 2020/21 and I don't say they are scam, but they have bad reputation here in bitcointalk forum  and even outside the forum, doing my research I found most negative feedback for 1xbet so don't expect smooth ride with them.

https://i.imgur.com/PvKmY07.png
https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club/sponsors


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: rodskee on December 23, 2020, 12:27:23 AM
What is interesting is that 1xbet website is official sponsor for Italian Seria A, Spanish La Liga and FC Barcelona in 2020/21 and I don't say they are scam, but they have bad reputation here in bitcointalk forum  and even outside the forum, doing my research I found most negative feedback for 1xbet so don't expect smooth ride with them.

https://i.imgur.com/PvKmY07.png
https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club/sponsors
after too many scams that they participated ?no wonder there are so much fund in their pocket that they can spent just to Enter the market again.
They Knew how much Money are in here and they can't help themselves to try and try . until we got the area when they will be accepted.,






Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Inagame on December 23, 2020, 12:36:27 AM
I don't see Betonline website listed here, and I know they are accepting people bit coins and I heard people are not happy using them.
Maybe you can visit their website and research more deep:
https://www.betonline.ag/


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: maydna on December 23, 2020, 02:06:23 AM
after too many scams that they participated ?no wonder there are so much fund in their pocket that they can spent just to Enter the market again.
They Knew how much Money are in here and they can't help themselves to try and try . until we got the area when they will be accepted.,

They can easily enter the market if they get a large amount of money from the scam. But for people who are aware of the scam, they will not easily get into their trap, and only some people are attracted and not think much about the offers that the casino promotes.

I don't see Betonline website listed here, and I know they are accepting people bit coins and I heard people are not happy using them.
Maybe you can visit their website and research more deep:
https://www.betonline.ag/

I check the site, and I see the site is not online. It will not stop because the scammer will always try to send many offers to the target, and they will get more people and get their money. Until the scammer gets more money from people, they will disappear without knowing where the scammers go.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: btc78 on December 23, 2020, 05:15:43 AM

They can easily enter the market if they get a large amount of money from the scam. But for people who are aware of the scam, they will not easily get into their trap, and only some people are attracted and not think much about the offers that the casino promotes.


I think he was talking about 1Xbit ?in which known gambling scammers and victimized Millions if not billion of dollars so basically they have Funds to make a comeback here.
Quote

I check the site, and I see the site is not online. It will not stop because the scammer will always try to send many offers to the target, and they will get more people and get their money. Until the scammer gets more money from people, they will disappear without knowing where the scammers go.
They are not Online because they are operating other sites now,they are trying to Build reputation from other sites they created because 1xbit will never have a place here Like yobit.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: blockman on December 23, 2020, 08:50:21 AM
I don't see Betonline website listed here, and I know they are accepting people bit coins and I heard people are not happy using them.
Maybe you can visit their website and research more deep:
https://www.betonline.ag/
Is this casino even operating before? there's no such thing on this website and it's asking to create a wallet which seems to be odd. Instead of asking to register, they want visitors to make a wallet and it's showing as an extension to the browser or this can be the new way of asking gamblers to register.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: bitterguy28 on December 23, 2020, 10:15:39 AM
I don't see Betonline website listed here, and I know they are accepting people bit coins and I heard people are not happy using them.
Maybe you can visit their website and research more deep:
https://www.betonline.ag/
Is there some thread that tackles about the those People that's not happy using them? or what cases are these? because OP is strict in adding sites ,those must be proven to be scamming or Banning accounts that they owes withdrawals .



https://i.imgur.com/PvKmY07.png
https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club/sponsors
Added in my lists as well,Cheers..


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: imstillthebest on December 23, 2020, 12:03:10 PM
I don't see Betonline website listed here, and I know they are accepting people bit coins and I heard people are not happy using them.
Maybe you can visit their website and research more deep:
https://www.betonline.ag/
Is this casino even operating before? there's no such thing on this website and it's asking to create a wallet which seems to be odd. Instead of asking to register, they want visitors to make a wallet and it's showing as an extension to the browser or this can be the new way of asking gamblers to register.

or that can be a new to scam ? recomending you to install an extension is not safe and if i still recall there was a same attempt on this forum where the scammer explains how to make money in a gambling but before that , you will be needing to install an extension on your browser .

if that is a legit site , they wont require that but we just need to sign up and login ,

 and we already have a built in wallet inside the gambling site where we can use to depo and to withdraw .


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: kotajikikox on December 23, 2020, 12:25:30 PM
I don't see Betonline website listed here, and I know they are accepting people bit coins and I heard people are not happy using them.
Maybe you can visit their website and research more deep:
https://www.betonline.ag/
What impressed me are the testimonials from various and Big gambling related businesses ,and this proves me that this is a scam site lol.

Only scammers will Post a testimonials ,from Presidents of Big companies  This is a way of luring and impressing potential victim.

Anyway let's see what would OP dig into this.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on December 23, 2020, 06:24:33 PM
I checked Betonline.ag website as suggested above and their website is working, but it is moved to new beta version:
https://beta.betonline.ag/

They are active on their social media and alive for 20 years so I am not sure about them, but I also found several scam accusations here on bitcointalk forum and I can add them to grey list for now and I will follow the situation.
Thank you for your suggestions.  



Added one new website to the list:
CyberBet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0) scam accusations, negative trust feedback, not active in forum anymore


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: blockman on December 23, 2020, 08:09:40 PM
I checked Betonline.ag website as suggested above and their website is working, but it is moved to new beta version:
https://beta.betonline.ag/

They are active on their social media and alive for 20 years so I am not sure about them, but I also found several scam accusations here on bitcointalk forum and I can add them to grey list for now and I will follow the situation.
Thank you for your suggestions. 
Thanks for that overview about them. When I checked them, there's no beta and that's probably the most recent activity that their website has.

Is this casino even operating before? there's no such thing on this website and it's asking to create a wallet which seems to be odd. Instead of asking to register, they want visitors to make a wallet and it's showing as an extension to the browser or this can be the new way of asking gamblers to register.

or that can be a new to scam ? recomending you to install an extension is not safe and if i still recall there was a same attempt on this forum where the scammer explains how to make money in a gambling but before that , you will be needing to install an extension on your browser .

if that is a legit site , they wont require that but we just need to sign up and login ,

 and we already have a built in wallet inside the gambling site where we can use to depo and to withdraw .
When it requires you to install a software that you're not familiar with, you better close that immediately. And that's what I did, it hasn't shown what wallet it would download and I just closed it immediately.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on January 22, 2021, 04:56:43 PM
There are some accusations in forum for Adkinsbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.0) and I put them on grey list for now, as there are risks for using their website.
Suspicions are for bet manipulations, holding customer funds, and complains about their customer support.
Do your own research and read posted feedback on their profile.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: JeromeTash on January 22, 2021, 08:15:33 PM
I would like to add some more Casinos and Sportbooks to avoid
1. kawbet.com -  Affiliated to 1xbit/1xbet ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227494.0
Accusation thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230966

2. bitbook.ag - Used fake team photo ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109508.0
Accusation thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109763.0


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: mindrust on January 22, 2021, 08:29:21 PM
NitrogenSports is pretty solid imo. They have a few neg ratings but it is not like they are on a scamming spree. Even their last neg trust rating says "Money was returned to customer. " and monbux's rating has no reference thread where we can examine what happened.

actmyname's negative rating is not even about someone who got scammed. It is based on possibilities.

All in all, i think nitrogen doesn't deserve to be in the list.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: acroman08 on January 22, 2021, 09:01:34 PM
I would like to add some more Casinos and Sportbooks to avoid
1. kawbet.com -  Affiliated to 1xbit/1xbet ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227494.0
Accusation thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230966
I thought kawbet went out of business after being found out that they are connected to 1xbit/1xbet and I remember visiting their website a while back and can't gain any access or can't reach the website. did something happen? did they do a re-launch or something?

anyway, just an addition if you access their website through the image on their ann thread you won't get to the website anymore it seems that the ref link used there doesn't work anymore


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: JeromeTash on January 22, 2021, 10:09:27 PM
I thought kawbet went out of business after being found out that they are connected to 1xbit/1xbet and I remember visiting their website a while back and can't gain any access or can't reach the website. did something happen? did they do a re-launch or something?

anyway, just an addition if you access their website through the image on their ann thread you won't get to the website anymore it seems that the ref link used there doesn't work anymore
They are still very much online. Maybe IP addresses from your country were blocked or something like that, but I can access their website even right now
Whenever you want to confirm if a website is online or offline, you can use this site https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com

https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/kawbet.com?proto=https&www=1


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on January 22, 2021, 10:52:59 PM
actmyname's negative rating is not even about someone who got scammed. It is based on possibilities.

Reputation is all in gambling business, and this is NOT a list of websites who are scamming people, but my own personal collected list of negative reviews, accusations, bad support and Nitrogen have several negative reports, but if you want to support them feel free to write them positive feedback.
As last case was resolved I am moving them to grey list.

I would like to add some more Casinos and Sportbooks to avoid
1. kawbet.com -  Affiliated to 1xbit/1xbet ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227494.0
Accusation thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230966

2. bitbook.ag - Used fake team photo ANN - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109508.0
Accusation thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109763.0

Thank you for posting suggestions.
I didn't use any of this websites so far, and anyone needs to do their own research but reading after reading feedback they have I would also avoid them.
Kawbet going to red list, and Bitbook to grey list.





Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: acroman08 on January 23, 2021, 10:13:32 PM
@notblox1 I just saw this thread "WHAT happened to GOOSEBET.IO? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311877.0)" and as of now, it seems that it is risky for anyone to use GOOSEBET.io since according to the thread and posts on that thread mods and admin has been missing from the site for a couple of weeks now and gambling site has a possibility of becoming a scam. it would be good to add them to the list temporarily until we know more or if the mods and admin decided to show themselves up and have a valid reason for missing from their gambling site.

I thought kawbet went out of business after being found out that they are connected to 1xbit/1xbet and I remember visiting their website a while back and can't gain any access or can't reach the website. did something happen? did they do a re-launch or something?

anyway, just an addition if you access their website through the image on their ann thread you won't get to the website anymore it seems that the ref link used there doesn't work anymore
They are still very much online. Maybe IP addresses from your country were blocked or something like that, but I can access their website even right now
Whenever you want to confirm if a website is online or offline, you can use this site https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com

https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/kawbet.com?proto=https&www=1
I don't think my IP is restricted to access their site. I'm not really sure but it might be possible that I used the image link(the one I am talking about on my previous post) on their ann thread to acces their website and forgot about it. anyway, thanks.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on January 27, 2021, 05:49:43 PM
I added one more website to my red list of websites to avoid and that is Zamabet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310725.0) stupid clone website using same template like other crap websites satoshiCasino and crypsino.
There are fake Fair claims and and I left negative feedback for them.

Important thing is not to comment and engage on their topic because I will consider anyone who keeps doing that in future a spammer!


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Zamabet on February 02, 2021, 09:31:44 PM
After testing and using many of casinos and betting websites I deicded to create my own list of Casinos everyone should be avoiding.
There can be many reasons for this and some of them are posting false information, suspicion for fraud or scam, not paying withdrawals, bad software, etc.
Please do NOT bump or post anything in their topics, but better report, post feedback on profiles and ignore them.

Casino to Avoid Reasons for avoiding
1. Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) Using the 777Coin name, Scam accusations, Fake provably fair, Negative feedback, Death threats, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
2. Satoshi Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283572.0)  Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
3. Crypsino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214440.0) Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
4. Bitstarz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651730.0) Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, Not paying
5. 1xbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0) Many Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, locking users funds
6. 888STARZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250346) Scam Accussations, 1xbet owned, locking users funds
7. Wixiplay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261052.0) Fake provably fair, Negative feedback
8. Cryptodice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264759.0) Negative feedback, Not responding to scam accusations, Satoshidice old name
9. Megadice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828431.0) Open Scam accusations, Owner not responding
10. Safedice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868275.0) Negative feedback, Owners are not active and not responding
11. Betmatch (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5029854.0) Banned from forum, Scam accusations, holding payouts, bad support
12. ZigZagsports (https://web.archive.org/web/20201001001903/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279105.0) Website not working 404 error, Changing domains RU
13. Betking.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0) Scam accusations, Hacked, Lost investors funds
14. AceDBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.0) issues with withdrawal, slow support, website not working
15. 1xbit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3906360.0) many Scam accusations, negative feedback, bad support
16. wbet7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2607019.0) scam accusations, not active in bitcointalk forum
17. BitcoinCasino.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0) scam accusation
18. CyberBet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0) scam accusations, negative trust feedback, not active in forum anymore
19. Kawbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227494.0) connected with 1xbet/1xbit casionp group who allready have bad reputation
20. Zamabet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310725.0) Clone of satoshiCasino, crypsino and coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working

Never invest more than you are afford to lose in any Casino, and if you are addicted to gambling please seek for medical help.

*Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) is not in any way related to well known 777coin.com!

Some casinos are not on the list, but they have mixed feedback and they are on my Grey list:

- Duckdice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1676313)
- Betonline.ag (https://www.betonline.ag/) (several scam accusations in forum)
- Adkinsbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.0) (Accusations in forum and bet manipulations)
- Bitbook.ag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109508.0) (used fake team member during ICO, later said it was mistake)
- Nitrogensports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159098.0) (Negative feedback, Bad customer support, Confusing rollover rule, Last case was resolved)

Please consider that some members who left negative feedback are no longer with us.

- Any Casino website listed here is HIGH RISK with multiple complains, but you need to do your own research for each of them and read feedback on their profiles.
- This is NOT a list of Scams, but just my personal list of websites to avoid for betting.
- I can also list a website that has bad software or bad support that don't care about customers.
- Having negative feedback does not guarantee website will be listed here.
- You can suggest more bad casinos and sportsbook if they created topic in bitcointalk forum, and I will consider adding them.

Some of blacklisted Casinos can also be found on BTCGOUSE website by member efialtis:
https://www.btcgosu.com/bitcoin-casino-blacklist/


Hi!
Delete our site from list.

Clone of satoshiCasino, crypsino and coins777 - Yes, we use same script.
 Fake provably fair - No, provably fair system works correctly, you can check any bet.
 Scam accusations - Proof of scam?
 Negative feedback - please delete your feedback.
Withdrawals not working - Withdrawals working, if you have any problems you can contact our support. Please provide info when you can't withdrawal?


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on February 02, 2021, 09:46:01 PM
Hi!
Delete our site from list.

Clone of satoshiCasino, crypsino and coins777 - Yes, we use same script.
 Fake provably fair - No, provably fair system works correctly, you can check any bet.
 Scam accusations - Proof of scam?
 Negative feedback - please delete your feedback.
Withdrawals not working - Withdrawals working, if you have any problems you can contact our support. Please provide info when you can't withdrawal?

You didn't just use same script like all other cloned websites that had exact same fake fair system, but you use exact same words and text like all of them, so I will not remove your website from my list, and maybe I will add plagiarism as one more thing you are doing.
There are more negative feedback from other members about plagiarism posted on your topic, and this is some examples of provably fake website using same text on all other websites:

Quote
Provably Fair

When you open the game page the server generates a secret and a seed and reveals its hash (using HMAC SHA256 algorithm). The server secret represents randomly shuffled card deck. The server seed is a cryptographically secure random alpha-numeric string. The hash of these 2 strings helps to ensure that the initial card deck is not altered after you choose the bet amount. After the game is finished the server secret and the server seed are revealed, so you can easily calculate and verify the hash.

When you play a game you can pass an extra custom string - client seed (if it's not specified a random number is automatically generated by your browser). The server will then calculate another hash using the server secret, the server seed and the client seed. The last 5 chars of this hash (representing a hexadecimal value) will be converted to an integer. The result number will be divided by 52 (number of cards in the deck) and N cards will be cut (moved from the top to the bottom of the deck), where N is the remainder of the division. Because the client seed can not be predicted by the server the number of cards cut from the initial deck is completely random and hence you can be sure that the game result is fair.
https://zamabet.com/pages/provably-fair
archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210202213657/https://zamabet.com/pages/provably-fair

Quote
Provably fair

When you open the game page the server generates a secret and a seed and reveals its hash (using HMAC SHA256 algorithm). The server secret represents randomly shuffled card deck. The server seed is a cryptographically secure random alpha-numeric string. The hash of these 2 strings helps to ensure that the initial card deck is not altered after you choose the bet amount. After the game is finished the server secret and the server seed are revealed, so you can easily calculate and verify the hash.

When you play a game you can pass an extra custom string - client seed (if it's not specified a random number is automatically generated by your browser). The server will then calculate another hash using the server secret, the server seed and the client seed. The last 5 chars of this hash (representing a hexadecimal value) will be converted to an integer. The result number will be divided by 52 (number of cards in the deck) and N cards will be cut (moved from the top to the bottom of the deck), where N is the remainder of the division. Because the client seed can not be predicted by the server the number of cards cut from the initial deck is completely random and hence you can be sure that the game result is fair.
https://coins777.com/pages/provably-fair
archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210202213934/https://coins777.com/pages/provably-fair

Quote
Provably fair

When you open the game page the server generates a secret and a seed and reveals its hash (using HMAC SHA256 algorithm). The server secret represents randomly shuffled card deck. The server seed is a cryptographically secure random alpha-numeric string. The hash of these 2 strings helps to ensure that the initial card deck is not altered after you choose the bet amount. After the game is finished the server secret and the server seed are revealed, so you can easily calculate and verify the hash.

When you play a game you can pass an extra custom string - client seed (if it's not specified a random number is automatically generated by your browser). The server will then calculate another hash using the server secret, the server seed and the client seed. The last 5 chars of this hash (representing a hexadecimal value) will be converted to an integer. The result number will be divided by 52 (number of cards in the deck) and N cards will be cut (moved from the top to the bottom of the deck), where N is the remainder of the division. Because the client seed can not be predicted by the server the number of cards cut from the initial deck is completely random and hence you can be sure that the game result is fair.
https://crypsino.io/page/provably-fair
archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20201106111503/https://crypsino.io/page/provably-fair


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Sadlife on February 03, 2021, 12:32:58 PM
1xbet, 1xbit and Kawbet are all the same sites duplicated originally from 1xbet which went down after a few days of its operation. Probably the guys behind already hit the quota they want and just run away with the money of their gamblers. Then reset and start a new with Kawbet even went to greater highs by launching their signature campaign just to make it look legit. Luckily many members here notice some similarities, these guys could have continue their schemes if it weren't for that.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Zamabet on February 08, 2021, 01:22:34 PM
Hi!
Delete our site from list.

Clone of satoshiCasino, crypsino and coins777 - Yes, we use same script.
 Fake provably fair - No, provably fair system works correctly, you can check any bet.
 Scam accusations - Proof of scam?
 Negative feedback - please delete your feedback.
Withdrawals not working - Withdrawals working, if you have any problems you can contact our support. Please provide info when you can't withdrawal?

You didn't just use same script like all other cloned websites that had exact same fake fair system, but you use exact same words and text like all of them, so I will not remove your website from my list, and maybe I will add plagiarism as one more thing you are doing.
There are more negative feedback from other members about plagiarism posted on your topic, and this is some examples of provably fake website using same text on all other websites:

Quote
Provably Fair

When you open the game page the server generates a secret and a seed and reveals its hash (using HMAC SHA256 algorithm). The server secret represents randomly shuffled card deck. The server seed is a cryptographically secure random alpha-numeric string. The hash of these 2 strings helps to ensure that the initial card deck is not altered after you choose the bet amount. After the game is finished the server secret and the server seed are revealed, so you can easily calculate and verify the hash.

When you play a game you can pass an extra custom string - client seed (if it's not specified a random number is automatically generated by your browser). The server will then calculate another hash using the server secret, the server seed and the client seed. The last 5 chars of this hash (representing a hexadecimal value) will be converted to an integer. The result number will be divided by 52 (number of cards in the deck) and N cards will be cut (moved from the top to the bottom of the deck), where N is the remainder of the division. Because the client seed can not be predicted by the server the number of cards cut from the initial deck is completely random and hence you can be sure that the game result is fair.
https://zamabet.com/pages/provably-fair
archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210202213657/https://zamabet.com/pages/provably-fair

Quote
Provably fair

When you open the game page the server generates a secret and a seed and reveals its hash (using HMAC SHA256 algorithm). The server secret represents randomly shuffled card deck. The server seed is a cryptographically secure random alpha-numeric string. The hash of these 2 strings helps to ensure that the initial card deck is not altered after you choose the bet amount. After the game is finished the server secret and the server seed are revealed, so you can easily calculate and verify the hash.

When you play a game you can pass an extra custom string - client seed (if it's not specified a random number is automatically generated by your browser). The server will then calculate another hash using the server secret, the server seed and the client seed. The last 5 chars of this hash (representing a hexadecimal value) will be converted to an integer. The result number will be divided by 52 (number of cards in the deck) and N cards will be cut (moved from the top to the bottom of the deck), where N is the remainder of the division. Because the client seed can not be predicted by the server the number of cards cut from the initial deck is completely random and hence you can be sure that the game result is fair.
https://coins777.com/pages/provably-fair
archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210202213934/https://coins777.com/pages/provably-fair

Quote
Provably fair

When you open the game page the server generates a secret and a seed and reveals its hash (using HMAC SHA256 algorithm). The server secret represents randomly shuffled card deck. The server seed is a cryptographically secure random alpha-numeric string. The hash of these 2 strings helps to ensure that the initial card deck is not altered after you choose the bet amount. After the game is finished the server secret and the server seed are revealed, so you can easily calculate and verify the hash.

When you play a game you can pass an extra custom string - client seed (if it's not specified a random number is automatically generated by your browser). The server will then calculate another hash using the server secret, the server seed and the client seed. The last 5 chars of this hash (representing a hexadecimal value) will be converted to an integer. The result number will be divided by 52 (number of cards in the deck) and N cards will be cut (moved from the top to the bottom of the deck), where N is the remainder of the division. Because the client seed can not be predicted by the server the number of cards cut from the initial deck is completely random and hence you can be sure that the game result is fair.
https://crypsino.io/page/provably-fair
archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20201106111503/https://crypsino.io/page/provably-fair

I agree the text is the same, and I don't see problem.
But remove everything else besides plagiarism.

 Fake provably fair - No, provably fair system works correctly, you can check any bet.
 Scam accusations - Proof of scam?
 Negative feedback - please delete your feedback.
Withdrawals not working - Withdrawals working, if you have any problems you can contact our support. Please provide info when you can't withdrawal?


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: CarnagexD on February 08, 2021, 09:27:38 PM
Betking.io, which I saw is already added on the prior list OP has made, is still operating like there's nothing wrong with their system in the first place. I tried gambling there just to test OP's statement and indeed he was right, after winning and claiming my rewards through withdrawal, I have received numerous errors back and forth.

I would also like to recommend adding YOBIT.io's gambling feature as that stuff is full of crap. They mentioned probably fairness which is not true. To be honest because of sites like them the phrase had lost all its meaning and is now synonymous to scam.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: seleme on February 08, 2021, 09:30:54 PM
1xbet, 1xbit and Kawbet are all the same sites duplicated originally from 1xbet which went down after a few days of its operation. Probably the guys behind already hit the quota they want and just run away with the money of their gamblers. Then reset and start a new with Kawbet even went to greater highs by launching their signature campaign just to make it look legit. Luckily many members here notice some similarities, these guys could have continue their schemes if it weren't for that.
I agree, these scammers copy the old data and paste it on the website layout. If you paid attention to the user interface, the scamming techniques are as same as the old design of 1xbet,1xbit. The similarities can be found on live games too, I have paid attention to the 1xbet written live Blackjack tables on Evolution live gaming provider. There is no same BJ room in other alternative casinos, it means the old scam is still alive.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Lorence.xD on February 09, 2021, 06:47:45 AM
1xbet, 1xbit and Kawbet are all the same sites duplicated originally from 1xbet which went down after a few days of its operation. Probably the guys behind already hit the quota they want and just run away with the money of their gamblers. Then reset and start a new with Kawbet even went to greater highs by launching their signature campaign just to make it look legit. Luckily many members here notice some similarities, these guys could have continue their schemes if it weren't for that.
So this must be the reason that they were gone, this was the first gambling site that I know that is from the Philippines, my country. I feel bad that this is the impression that people get when they think of Philippine gambling website. Good thing that they got already quashed, and hopefully no one is playing at their website.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on February 09, 2021, 04:23:50 PM
So funny that Zamabet have now officially admitted doing plagiarism and using same same words, text and script like other websites but they claim they are not the same and they even demand from me removing them from my list :)
I don't trust anything they say but everyone should research and decide on their own if they trust them or not.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: dunfida on February 10, 2021, 03:22:15 PM
So funny that Zamabet have now officially admitted doing plagiarism and using same same words, text and script like other websites but they claim they are not the same and they even demand from me removing them from my list :)
I don't trust anything they say but everyone should research and decide on their own if they trust them or not.


It would be nice if you do post up that admitting thing. Have they sent you out a message directly?

Its just too odd that a someone do admit and tell  that theyre faking everything. Its unusual honestly.  :D


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on February 22, 2021, 06:35:19 PM
Today I added two more betting websites I saw posted on bitcointalk forum  and after doing some investigation and research I came to conclusion not to trust them or use them at all.
First one is called PayoutCrypto.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318112.0) and second one is Gamebets.website (https://app.gamebets.website).
Both of this websites are very suspicious and they have cloned games, they have no license and they only use discord as support, and second website purchased domain only few days ago.
It is possible that both websites are operated by same people from Russia.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Zamabet on February 26, 2021, 01:40:03 PM
Hi!
Delete our site from list.

Clone of satoshiCasino, crypsino and coins777 - Yes, we use same script.
 Fake provably fair - No, provably fair system works correctly, you can check any bet.
 Scam accusations - Proof of scam?
 Negative feedback - please delete your feedback.
Withdrawals not working - Withdrawals working, if you have any problems you can contact our support. Please provide info when you can't withdrawal?

You didn't just use same script like all other cloned websites that had exact same fake fair system, but you use exact same words and text like all of them, so I will not remove your website from my list, and maybe I will add plagiarism as one more thing you are doing.
There are more negative feedback from other members about plagiarism posted on your topic, and this is some examples of provably fake website using same text on all other websites:

Quote
Provably Fair

When you open the game page the server generates a secret and a seed and reveals its hash (using HMAC SHA256 algorithm). The server secret represents randomly shuffled card deck. The server seed is a cryptographically secure random alpha-numeric string. The hash of these 2 strings helps to ensure that the initial card deck is not altered after you choose the bet amount. After the game is finished the server secret and the server seed are revealed, so you can easily calculate and verify the hash.

When you play a game you can pass an extra custom string - client seed (if it's not specified a random number is automatically generated by your browser). The server will then calculate another hash using the server secret, the server seed and the client seed. The last 5 chars of this hash (representing a hexadecimal value) will be converted to an integer. The result number will be divided by 52 (number of cards in the deck) and N cards will be cut (moved from the top to the bottom of the deck), where N is the remainder of the division. Because the client seed can not be predicted by the server the number of cards cut from the initial deck is completely random and hence you can be sure that the game result is fair.
https://zamabet.com/pages/provably-fair
archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210202213657/https://zamabet.com/pages/provably-fair

Quote
Provably fair

When you open the game page the server generates a secret and a seed and reveals its hash (using HMAC SHA256 algorithm). The server secret represents randomly shuffled card deck. The server seed is a cryptographically secure random alpha-numeric string. The hash of these 2 strings helps to ensure that the initial card deck is not altered after you choose the bet amount. After the game is finished the server secret and the server seed are revealed, so you can easily calculate and verify the hash.

When you play a game you can pass an extra custom string - client seed (if it's not specified a random number is automatically generated by your browser). The server will then calculate another hash using the server secret, the server seed and the client seed. The last 5 chars of this hash (representing a hexadecimal value) will be converted to an integer. The result number will be divided by 52 (number of cards in the deck) and N cards will be cut (moved from the top to the bottom of the deck), where N is the remainder of the division. Because the client seed can not be predicted by the server the number of cards cut from the initial deck is completely random and hence you can be sure that the game result is fair.
https://coins777.com/pages/provably-fair
archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210202213934/https://coins777.com/pages/provably-fair

Quote
Provably fair

When you open the game page the server generates a secret and a seed and reveals its hash (using HMAC SHA256 algorithm). The server secret represents randomly shuffled card deck. The server seed is a cryptographically secure random alpha-numeric string. The hash of these 2 strings helps to ensure that the initial card deck is not altered after you choose the bet amount. After the game is finished the server secret and the server seed are revealed, so you can easily calculate and verify the hash.

When you play a game you can pass an extra custom string - client seed (if it's not specified a random number is automatically generated by your browser). The server will then calculate another hash using the server secret, the server seed and the client seed. The last 5 chars of this hash (representing a hexadecimal value) will be converted to an integer. The result number will be divided by 52 (number of cards in the deck) and N cards will be cut (moved from the top to the bottom of the deck), where N is the remainder of the division. Because the client seed can not be predicted by the server the number of cards cut from the initial deck is completely random and hence you can be sure that the game result is fair.
https://crypsino.io/page/provably-fair
archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20201106111503/https://crypsino.io/page/provably-fair

Hi, why you don't reply?

I agree the text is the same, and I don't see problem.
But remove everything else besides plagiarism.
P.S. We already edit ToS.

 Fake provably fair - No, provably fair system works correctly, you can check any bet.
 Scam accusations - Proof of scam?
 Negative feedback - please delete your feedback.
Withdrawals not working - Withdrawals working, if you have any problems you can contact our support. Please provide info when you can't withdrawal?



Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Ziskinberg on February 26, 2021, 02:05:04 PM
Today I added two more betting websites I saw posted on bitcointalk forum  and after doing some investigation and research I came to conclusion not to trust them or use them at all.
First one is called PayoutCrypto.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318112.0) and second one is Gamebets.website (https://app.gamebets.website).
Both of this websites are very suspicious and they have cloned games, they have no license and they only use discord as support, and second website purchased domain only few days ago.
It is possible that both websites are operated by same people from Russia.


This list is even short, there are more website that are just a clone of the original and they would only exist to scam.
Actually I'm not familiar with the sites in the list but I'm telling you, if you keep this thread updated, you'll need more space to suspicious sites this year.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on March 09, 2021, 05:59:35 PM
Adkinsbet created new topic, and new accounts to avoid showing their red flag and negative feedback and deceive customers in this way!
I would advice anyone to avoid posting there or I will consider adding them on my spammer list for avoiding and ignoring, and that could result in bounty managers using this list.

Anyone who continue posting in Adkinsbet topics will be consider purchased, hired account or a spammer.
Stop posting on their topics may result in removing you from this list but it is not guaranteed.

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Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: jostorres on March 12, 2021, 03:08:20 PM
I would advice anyone to avoid posting there or I will consider adding them on my spammer list for avoiding and ignoring, and that could result in bounty managers using this list.
Good idea actually because they are trying to get more replies and one way to stop the adkinsbet scam is to stop talking about them, like you said, even on their topic so they don't get free bumps. The problem is that some users are able to get their withdraw, which might be because adkinsbet is a selective scam operation and like this user posted here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5322032.msg56526423#msg56526423) so I don't know if they can be blamed.

There is a chance that it is also a bought account though, so yeah I can see why you added him to the list. I guess you can maybe PM the users who aren't clear paid puppets of adkinsbet and ask them to visit this post and hence avoid posting in their thread.

One thing that baffles me is why a clear scam site with so many bought accounts is able to operate so blatantly despite everyone knowing what is going on.

By the way, thanks for the list in the OP because I was under impression that 1xbit and 1xbet are different and not both of them are a scam but thanks for clearing it, and although I wasn't going to try 1xbet either, it is good to know that they are scam and easily avoidable in future.

There were some clouds over how goosebet.io will turn out, after being silent for months, I haven't checked what happened with them lately but I guess it is worth adding them to the list maybe.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on March 12, 2021, 03:28:40 PM
like this user posted here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5322032.msg56526423#msg56526423) so I don't know if they can be blamed.

I don't blame them, but anyone who writes in that topic is bumping it intentionally or not, and there is risk of someone tagging them with negative feedback.
I will observe topic for changes and make corrections if needed.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on April 19, 2021, 06:33:05 PM
I am very happy to say that Adkinscambet website is closed and we now know they are connected with other casinos with bad reputation because their domain is redirecting to Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) well known for using the 777Coin name, Scam accusations, Fake provably fair, Negative feedback, Death threats, Withdrawals not working, and Ponzi like scheme.
They have exact same website template like Satoshi Casino (https://ninjastic.space/topic/5283572), Crypsino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214440.0), Zamabet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310725.0) and others that all may run by same team of scammers like Adkinscambet.
Watch out with all new betting websites that showed up recently or may come up in near future.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: nhaila on May 29, 2021, 01:45:26 AM
1XBIT.COM  brings another signature campaign in service section. They already cheating with many users with different ways . I already victimed from 1xbit  gambling site.  I never believe 1xbit Any more.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: romero121 on May 29, 2021, 03:29:00 AM
I am very happy to say that Adkinscambet website is closed and we now know they are connected with other casinos with bad reputation because their domain is redirecting to Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) well known for using the 777Coin name, Scam accusations, Fake provably fair, Negative feedback, Death threats, Withdrawals not working, and Ponzi like scheme.
They have exact same website template like Satoshi Casino (https://ninjastic.space/topic/5283572), Crypsino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214440.0), Zamabet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310725.0) and others that all may run by same team of scammers like Adkinscambet.
Watch out with all new betting websites that showed up recently or may come up in near future.
Now only I checked with adkinsbet. This website gained good reputation followed by more sports betting access. Why more number of gambling websites are getting into such activities while they're good with the service. Even this platform had good promotion. Such act of ending up the website makes people not to think of the new websites.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: MCobian on May 29, 2021, 04:24:48 AM
1XBIT.COM  brings another signature campaign in service section. They already cheating with many users with different ways . I already victimed from 1xbit  gambling site.  I never believe 1xbit Any more.

Not only are you a 1xBit victim, it seems like a lot of the members here are also 1xBit victims. Now they try to cheat in another way, by holding
signature campaigns, but most of them applied for campaign is accounts that had red trust. This proves that 1xBit's reputation has been very bad
for members of this forum, therefore for newbies who want to play online gambling, they should avoid playing gambling at 1xBit.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: YOSHIE on May 29, 2021, 06:58:00 AM
for members of this forum, therefore for newbies who want to play online gambling, they should avoid playing gambling at 1xBit.
You are right, that's good advice for beginners, I feel sorry to see the complaints suffered by members on this forum, What's even worse is what the 1xBit team did to freeze user funds until they quarreled with their wives, this is very bad in the world of gambling, people now regret betting on the 1xBit site, I hope there are no more new victims.



Thanks to: @ notblox1 for creating this thread, I hope beginners who like to bet on gambling sites before making a deposit or betting, You should check well-known gambling sites, maybe this thread can be a good example for beginners to find gambling sites with a bad reputation and avoid it.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: michellee on May 29, 2021, 07:16:29 AM
1XBIT.COM  brings another signature campaign in service section. They already cheating with many users with different ways . I already victimed from 1xbit  gambling site.  I never believe 1xbit Any more.

Not only are you a 1xBit victim, it seems like a lot of the members here are also 1xBit victims. Now they try to cheat in another way, by holding
signature campaigns, but most of them applied for campaign is accounts that had red trust. This proves that 1xBit's reputation has been very bad
for members of this forum, therefore for newbies who want to play online gambling, they should avoid playing gambling at 1xBit.
Yeah, right. I just wonder how 1xBit will clear the mess and convince people that their site is safe and will not try to disappoint many members. Maybe it needs hard work to explain the current situation, but it is not easy with the cases that they already got. Still, it still hard to gain the trust of people who are already getting scam by them. People need to be careful and always check on the site before they deposit some money to prevent from getting a scam.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: aysg76 on May 29, 2021, 08:07:46 AM
for members of this forum, therefore for newbies who want to play online gambling, they should avoid playing gambling at 1xBit.
You are right, that's good advice for beginners, I feel sorry to see the complaints suffered by members on this forum, What's even worse is what the 1xBit team did to freeze user funds until they quarreled with their wives, this is very bad in the world of gambling, people now regret betting on the 1xBit site, I hope there are no more new victims.



Thanks to: @ notblox1 for creating this thread, I hope beginners who like to bet on gambling sites before making a deposit or betting, You should check well-known gambling sites, maybe this thread can be a good example for beginners to find gambling sites with a bad reputation and avoid it.
There were many scam accusations against 1xbit and 1xbet so I already avoided playing on their platform so it's better to cross check before hand that whether the casino you are playing or want to deposit your funds with is legit or not in this risky gambling world of crypto.I was reading a post other day where user was given $10-$20 as birthday present every year by 1xbit team and was probably wondering is this their promotional strategy to retain existing customers so that they ignore that they are scam.But how do people still prefer to play with them inspite of so many allegations against them of fund withdrawal problem,locked account,no responsive support team and others.So guys please be aware of such casino or say it's better to stay away from them if you want security of funds as there are many more casino out there.Just came across this thread and want to share my opinion.

Rest thanks @notblox1 for creating awareness thread for newbies and helping them to find out the list from which they can know which casino is not legit and they stay away from them as for new players it's hard to find out the actual results but experienced ones can help them on this.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: peter0425 on May 29, 2021, 08:39:54 AM
1XBIT.COM  brings another signature campaign in service section. They already cheating with many users with different ways . I already victimed from 1xbit  gambling site.  I never believe 1xbit Any more.
You should continue to Bump their ANN thread and also their signature campaign thread, also their Honest campaign  thread for your own campaign of not playing with them until issues been settle.
We have seen tons of complaints from this company like what Yobit does in the past.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on June 02, 2021, 08:07:49 PM
You should continue to Bump their ANN thread and also their signature campaign thread, also their Honest campaign thread for your own campaign of not playing with them until issues been settle.
It is now confirmed from several sources that they are paying for honest review of their website, but I would still be careful when sending coins for betting on 1xbit.
Bitcointalk forum is important place for crypto betting websites so they all want to advertise here but it's a long road to build good reputation and even longer road of rebuilding old tainted reputation.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Zilon on June 25, 2021, 03:10:31 PM
How about updating this list more often so we keep up to date with more casinos and sports book with scamming records so we can clearly stay clear. But I would like to know if we have really had any one who have been scammed by this sites and how the operate so we can always relate with other casinos and sports book which might choose to use the same format.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Erdogan on June 25, 2021, 03:25:57 PM
1XBIT.COM  brings another signature campaign in service section. They already cheating with many users with different ways . I already victimed from 1xbit  gambling site.  I never believe 1xbit Any more.
You should continue to Bump their ANN thread and also their signature campaign thread, also their Honest campaign  thread for your own campaign of not playing with them until issues been settle.
We have seen tons of complaints from this company like what Yobit does in the past.

I think we should also bump this thread.
I decided to participate in the 1xBit signature campaign for an obvious reason - high rates and they accept red trust users.
However, before applying to the campaign, I quickly checked what was going on with this casino.
My conclusions are that a lot of shady things have actually happened in the past, but at this point a lot of them have been clarified and the support team is very active and helpful. You can check it in their ANN thread.


Therefore, I would like ask to consider changing comment on 1xBit about support.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: acroman08 on June 25, 2021, 04:37:40 PM
But I would like to know if we have really had any one who have been scammed by this sites
The thread isn't just about gamblers being scammed but other things too, such as fake provably fair, withholding funds for an unknown reason, clone casinos, etc... as for right out scamming, adkinsbet did an exit scam. not sure how many people lost their funds but by the way they just suddenly stopped operating I'd say there is a clear ill intent on their actions.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on September 15, 2021, 07:46:23 PM
New betting website added to my personal list of websites I will avoid using and I suggest other to do the same thing:
BTC365 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5355326.0) Accusation for holding users funds and freezing users accounts without providing any real proof or rules that don't allow specific activity
Do your own research and read BTC365 topic for more information.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: JeromeTash on September 15, 2021, 09:42:14 PM
Good thread to keep track of that one should never use OP

I think if I was the starter of the thread, 1xbit would be number one on the list. Bolded in some red big text size  ;D
I have never seen and annoying and persistent scam online gambling site like them


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on September 27, 2021, 08:44:30 PM
BTC365 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5355326.0) previously had accusation for holding users funds and freezing users accounts without providing any real proof or rules that don't allow specific activity,
but they returned customer his coins and they updated terms for using their website, they can confiscate coins at any time from your account.
I suggest everyone to use this website with caution and carefully read their terms: https://www.btc365.com/help/terms


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Lordshiva on October 03, 2021, 11:22:00 AM
Thank you for compiling all those who scam casinos and sportsbooks, it will help other members especially newbies and active gambler on what to avoid, they have now the knowledge to know some legit and some fake casino gambling. Nothing's so special with that for those who are not so active gambler but for those who always want to gamble an try a new one with the faster transaction and have good bonuses, they ate looking for other website and now you already mentioned all those they should avoid, thanks for that.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Erdogan on October 03, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
1xbit resolved old complaints and resolves them on an ongoing basis here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg56150537#msg56150537

Of course, not all complaints were considered positively, which is why some users are not satisfied.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Furious 7 on October 03, 2021, 07:47:40 PM
Usually, whenever there is an unsolved accusation about a casino, I will avoid it and never use the casino to avoid things that are not wanted, so I look for a good reputation to keep us comfortable playing casino.

But I'm pretty happy there's a thread listing about problematic casinos so I'll know better maybe a lot of people know, so about this one I'll stay out of the way.

These duelbits, roobet, rollbit and FJ are pretty safe as long as I play casino and sports betting.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: nurilham on October 04, 2021, 09:07:22 PM
there is a lot of gambling that must be avoided and of course this will be very helpful for us to avoid scamming gambling. I think there are many more gambling sites that are indicated as fraud, so we have to be more careful. no one wants to be involved in gambling that is a scam that can lead to frustration and lose a lot of money. It is important for us before participating in gambling to make sure whether it is a legal site or not to ensure its level of security.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: ultrloa on October 04, 2021, 11:56:42 PM
These duelbits, roobet, rollbit and FJ are pretty safe as long as I play casino and sports betting.

This gambling site already gain a good reputation with outstanding user base so its good to safe that they are  safe to place our bet on. That's why we don't need to find any gambling site around since testing new is like putting our one foot in danger although its quite good to test the excitement what other new can bring but the point here is don't risk any huge amount since we know rampant scamming by new creating gambling site is existing even by now.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: acroman08 on October 05, 2021, 03:07:02 AM
no one wants to be involved in gambling that is a scam that can lead to frustration and lose a lot of money.
look at the post above Furious 7. that guy seems like he wants to be involved on a gambling site that is a scam or at least extremely shady. although Erdogan showed resolved cases of 1xbit here in the forum I'd still avoid it. they may say that my money won't be touched if I play fairly but then again, with their history, who knows.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 05, 2021, 09:35:00 AM
1XBIT.COM  brings another signature campaign in service section. They already cheating with many users with different ways . I already victimed from 1xbit  gambling site.  I never believe 1xbit Any more.
You should continue to Bump their ANN thread and also their signature campaign thread, also their Honest campaign  thread for your own campaign of not playing with them until issues been settle.
We have seen tons of complaints from this company like what Yobit does in the past.

I think we should also bump this thread.
I decided to participate in the 1xBit signature campaign for an obvious reason - high rates and they accept red trust users.
However, before applying to the campaign, I quickly checked what was going on with this casino.
My conclusions are that a lot of shady things have actually happened in the past, but at this point a lot of them have been clarified and the support team is very active and helpful. You can check it in their ANN thread.


Therefore, I would like ask to consider changing comment on 1xBit about support.
Well, I wouldn't say yes to this request if I was the op, they might be cooling off in a bid to enable them gain more members and supporters, so they will make even far more money in their next hit, one thing about damaged reputation is that, it's very difficult to correct, and for those you've lost their trust in one way of the other, it is very difficult for them to ever trust you again even if you come back a saint.

I will advice you be very careful with that platform, and for advertisers here, please avoid 1xbit signature campaign, as wearing their signature will automatically earn you a negative trust.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Kittygalore on October 05, 2021, 09:42:43 AM
Op, you should make it in alphabetical order so people can easily scan for websites with just their first letters. I don't know if this has been added already but PNXbet is part of 1xbit if I recall.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: TheEconomists on October 05, 2021, 12:43:40 PM
Currently short of merit if not you really deserve merit from me because, this will really help people from being scammed from all the site you have mentioned above as I have seen some of them with negative trust within the forum although there are people here who are still promoting and defending them within the forum.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Sanugarid on October 05, 2021, 03:05:16 PM
Should this have a copy of in the Scam Accusations board? Because it would be helpful if the people that don't frequent in this parts but always lurks in Trading boards would probably find it helpful but I'm not one to decide, it's a gambling topic after all.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Marvelman on October 05, 2021, 03:16:17 PM
Op, you should make it in alphabetical order so people can easily scan for websites with just their first letters. I don't know if this has been added already but PNXbet is part of 1xbit if I recall.
Didn't know that PNXbet was affiliated with 1xbit. They're being promoted by a lot of streamers in my country, I see them placed at the bottom of their streams together with the URL of the site with their referral code for something.

Yes. There is evidence that they are part of the same organization. More information here:
Pnxbet --> Kawbet --> 1xbet/1xbit (known scammers) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235201.msg57466443#msg57466443)


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: zanezane on October 05, 2021, 04:12:11 PM
Shouldn't OP add Adkinsbet too? They're a big one back then right? Plus most of the 1xbit scam campaign participants came from this one if I recall. They're called by many as sock puppets for Adkinsbet.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: acroman08 on October 05, 2021, 08:17:29 PM
Shouldn't OP add Adkinsbet too? They're a big one back then right? Plus most of the 1xbit scam campaign participants came from this one if I recall. They're called by many as sock puppets for Adkinsbet.
If you look at the starting post you'll see that adkinsbet is already listed there. Also, the website has been dead/shutdown for 5 months now. It was funny how they said they weren't scamming but then decided to suddenly close their website(most likely am exit scam) without notifying anyone.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Zilon on October 06, 2021, 07:09:57 AM
How often would this list be updated I'm asking because some casinos might have cleared their accusation issues and resolved all illegal and scam activities attached to them in such cases their names should be removed and new scam sites added as some betting sites becomes better over time and others choose to switch from good to bad




Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Bitinity on October 06, 2021, 08:11:15 AM
How often would this list be updated I'm asking because some casinos might have cleared their accusation issues and resolved all illegal and scam activities attached to them in such cases their names should be removed and new scam sites added as some betting sites becomes better over time and others choose to switch from good to bad

In case you see there is a site that has cleared and resolved the issue but the site is still on the list as well as if you see that there is a site that has just turned into scam, simply post it here and OP will look into it before updating the list. The list was updated around 10 days ago, so we can assume that OP is still updating the list regularly whenever there is something need to be updated based on user's complain or if he heard a news somewhere in this forum.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Kittygalore on October 06, 2021, 10:58:36 AM
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Didn't know that PNXbet was affiliated with 1xbit. They're being promoted by a lot of streamers in my country, I see them placed at the bottom of their streams together with the URL of the site with their referral code for something.
They did and yes they're being advertised by Filipino streamers didn't believe at first but the connection was there. That's why I am staying away from that site because I know that they have a high chance of doing what 1xbit does.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Victorycoin on October 06, 2021, 11:53:19 AM
Gambling sites are losing their high chances for scams and illegal activity their value is declining due to lack of updates for this reason, gambling operators have a role to play in providing the necessary protection to customers. Similarly players need to work on reducing certain risks when using online casinos basic security solutions accessing a gambling platform can also harm you. Casino users must know that they can take various precautions to ensure that they are safe while playing in online casinos.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: zanezane on October 06, 2021, 02:02:35 PM
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If you look at the starting post you'll see that adkinsbet is already listed there. Also, the website has been dead/shutdown for 5 months now. It was funny how they said they weren't scamming but then decided to suddenly close their website(most likely am exit scam) without notifying anyone.
I did a double check before posting about it but I didn't see it when I was looking for it, either I was so stupid and my eyes are failing me or it was added later. The problem with the list is that it's kind of mixed up so I have to scan everything to see if there's a possibility that it's there but it's not arranged in anyway.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: acroman08 on October 06, 2021, 03:27:06 PM
I did a double check before posting about it but I didn't see it when I was looking for it, either I was so stupid and my eyes are failing me or it was added later.
you just missed it. the thread was last edited on September 27. so adkinsbet is definitely on the list before you posted. anyway, missing something even after doing a double does happen. there's really no need to say things like that.

The problem with the list is that it's kind of mixed up so I have to scan everything to see if there's a possibility that it's there but it's not arranged in anyway
although I agree that it needs rearrangement, the list is not that big that people would have a hard time reading through it in just a short time.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on October 06, 2021, 03:45:57 PM
Op, you should make it in alphabetical order so people can easily scan for websites with just their first letters. I don't know if this has been added already but PNXbet is part of 1xbit if I recall.
Good idea but it would not be necessary since the list isn't that big at at all so it's nothing to be worried about, at least for now but when the list gets bigger, probably considering it would be helpful.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: acroman08 on October 07, 2021, 11:23:55 AM
Didn't know that PNXbet was affiliated with 1xbit.
if you are interested regarding their connection refer to this thread Pnxbet --> Kawbet --> 1xbet/1xbit (known scammers) - Plz support flag! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235201.0).

They're being promoted by a lot of streamers in my country, I see them placed at the bottom of their streams together with the URL of the site with their referral code for something.
not just PNXbet 1xbet has been seen being promoted by a Filipino Youtuber. the irritating part about it is that majority of his audience is(most likely) underage. the dude who owns that channel has no idea what his advertising might do to his underage audience.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: ultrloa on October 07, 2021, 11:45:16 AM
They're being promoted by a lot of streamers in my country, I see them placed at the bottom of their streams together with the URL of the site with their referral code for something.
not just PNXbet 1xbet has been seen being promoted by a Filipino Youtuber. the irritating part about it is that majority of his audience is(most likely) underage. the dude who owns that channel has no idea what his advertising might do to his underage audience.

Most of those youtubers doesn't know what reputation of the site they are promoting that's why they keep on posting that on their channels and since we know how bad they the betting site they promoted then we can avoid it easily, but for their simple followers who's not aware about crypto and its scamming issues then they are the one who's at huge risk, the only thing we can do is to warn them and hope they listen about what we told them about that site.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Cling18 on October 07, 2021, 02:58:25 PM
They're being promoted by a lot of streamers in my country, I see them placed at the bottom of their streams together with the URL of the site with their referral code for something.
not just PNXbet 1xbet has been seen being promoted by a Filipino Youtuber. the irritating part about it is that majority of his audience is(most likely) underage. the dude who owns that channel has no idea what his advertising might do to his underage audience.

Most of those youtubers doesn't know what reputation of the site they are promoting that's why they keep on posting that on their channels and since we know how bad they the betting site they promoted then we can avoid it easily, but for their simple followers who's not aware about crypto and its scamming issues then they are the one who's at huge risk, the only thing we can do is to warn them and hope they listen about what we told them about that site.

This is definitely true. Most YouTubers and streamers are only concerned about what they're going to earn by advertising and promoting sites regardless of their background. They just focused on their earnings and not on the reputation of the sites that they're promoting and that's also the reason why we have to be skeptical because not everything that we could watch on youtube is true.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Rufsilf on October 08, 2021, 02:05:43 PM
After testing and using many of casinos and betting websites I deicded to create my own list of Casinos everyone should be avoiding.
There can be many reasons for this and some of them are posting false information, suspicion for fraud or scam, not paying withdrawals, bad software, etc.
Please do NOT bump or post anything in their topics, but better report, post feedback on profiles and ignore them.

Casino to Avoid Reasons for avoiding
1. Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) Using the 777Coin name, Scam accusations, Fake provably fair, Negative feedback, Death threats, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
2. Satoshi Casino (https://ninjastic.space/topic/5283572)  Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
3. Crypsino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214440.0) Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
4. Bitstarz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651730.0) Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, Not paying
5. 1xbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0) Many Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, locking users funds
6. 888STARZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250346) Scam Accussations, 1xbet owned, locking users funds
7. Wixiplay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261052.0) Fake provably fair, Negative feedback
8. Cryptodice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264759.0) Negative feedback, Not responding to scam accusations, Satoshidice old name
9. Megadice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828431.0) Open Scam accusations, Owner not responding
10. Safedice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868275.0) Negative feedback, Owners are not active and not responding
11. Betmatch (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5029854.0) Banned from forum, Scam accusations, holding payouts, bad support
12. ZigZagsports (https://web.archive.org/web/20201001001903/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279105.0) Website not working 404 error, Changing domains RU
13. Betking.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0) Scam accusations, Hacked, Lost investors funds
14. AceDBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.0) issues with withdrawal, slow support, website not working
15. 1xbit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3906360.0) many Scam accusations, negative feedback, bad support
16. wbet7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2607019.0) scam accusations, not active in bitcointalk forum
17. BitcoinCasino.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0) scam accusation
18. CyberBet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0) scam accusations, negative trust feedback, not active in forum anymore
19. Kawbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227494.0) connected with 1xbet/1xbit casionp group who allready have bad reputation
20. Zamabet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310725.0) Clone of satoshiCasino, crypsino and coins777 scams, Fake provably fair, Plagiarism, Negative feedback
21. Adkinsbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.0) Dead website, Accusations in forum, left the forum, bet manipulations, purchased shilling accounts
22. PayoutCrypto.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318112.0) Suspicious casino with cloned games, no license and only with discord support
23. Gamebets.website (https://ninjastic.space/post/56385807) Suspicious casino with cloned games, no license and only with discord support, new domain

Never invest more than you are afford to lose in any Casino, and if you are addicted to gambling please seek for medical help.

*Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) is not in any way related to well known 777coin.com!

Some casinos are not on the list, but they have mixed feedback and they are on my Grey list:

- Duckdice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1676313)
- Betonline.ag (https://www.betonline.ag/) (several scam accusations in forum)
- Bitbook.ag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109508.0) (used fake team member during ICO, later said it was mistake)
- Nitrogensports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159098.0) (Negative feedback, Bad customer support, Confusing rollover rule, Last case was resolved)

Please consider that some members who left negative feedback are no longer with us.

- Any Casino website listed here is HIGH RISK with multiple complains, but you need to do your own research for each of them and read feedback on their profiles.
- This is NOT a list of Scams, but just my personal list of websites to avoid for betting.
- I can also list a website that has bad software or bad support that don't care about customers.
- Having negative feedback does not guarantee website will be listed here.
- You can suggest more bad casinos and sportsbook if they created topic in bitcointalk forum, and I will consider adding them.

Some of blacklisted Casinos can also be found on BTCGOSU website by member efialtis:
https://www.btcgosu.com/bitcoin-casino-blacklist/

Finally another helpful thread for newbies and for aspiring gamblers out there, this is the thread you're looking for. Thank you for the heads up!
I hope you can update this thread from time to time because some are not yet legit to operate such gambling sites or business while some are just starting to have their own and haven't gotten some legit check so that gamblers will know what to do. If there is a new red tagged please update us, or If I will know that there is a new update about this I'll post it here to. Thank you!


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on October 08, 2021, 04:55:07 PM
How often would this list be updated I'm asking because some casinos might have cleared their accusation issues and resolved all illegal and scam activities attached to them in such cases their names should be removed and new scam sites added as some betting sites becomes better over time and others choose to switch from good to bad
This list is updated whenever I want to be updated, I don't have to show bills to anyone, and this is not the list of scam sites so look somewhere else if you want that.

Op, you should make it in alphabetical order so people can easily scan for websites with just their first letters. I don't know if this has been added already but PNXbet is part of 1xbit if I recall.
No I will not waste my time sorting anything in any alphabetical order.

Anyone else, don't ask any questions if you didn't ready first page.





Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: HUSTLER on November 22, 2021, 04:49:09 AM
Thank you OP for this thread. It is awesome to know things like this. It helps save unsuspecting gamblers from falling into scams. I'm exceptionally grateful for this.
My only regret is the fact that I didn't come across something like this sooner, say five years ago.
I fell for several scams like the ones OP mentioned. These sites and sportbook have great deposit bonuses and promise great returns only for me to deposit and then my account was blocked and my funds frozen.
I fell for these scams on numerous occasion until I learnt my lesson the hard way


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: kingangel on November 22, 2021, 06:24:30 AM
It is very difficult to make a suggestion or take things as true based on the opinion of one person. What is a good casino for one person may be a lot less good for another. And we often see that a casino is portrayed as a scam, while a week later you see that it has been resolved.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Erdogan on November 22, 2021, 05:26:57 PM
It is very difficult to make a suggestion or take things as true based on the opinion of one person. What is a good casino for one person may be a lot less good for another. And we often see that a casino is portrayed as a scam, while a week later you see that it has been resolved.

Reviews like these are very helpful, but I agree with you that we cannot rely on one person's opinion. We should always do wider research in advance and draw conclusions. We must also pay attention to who is doing the review and why. It often happens that reviews are simply paid and in such a situation have nothing to do with reality.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Peanutswar on November 27, 2021, 02:43:54 PM
I didnt seen this topic previous on the gambling board but i guess this is a good thing to see by the people again because previously there are a lot of people playing with their gambling entertainment and its better to keep them aware what are the Casino and sportsbook that is already a red flag and some issues so the players will play at their own risk and keep them aware threes an issue like this. It is better if OP makes an update with the thread.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: timerland on November 29, 2021, 10:02:11 AM
Probably should put BitVest on there, or at least the warning section.

They have had significant issues with both their signature campaigns and hot wallets for quite a while now and the owner doesn't seem to be coming back to resolve any issues.

777Coin as well given that it is the sister site of Bitvest.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: acroman08 on November 29, 2021, 10:49:29 AM
I didnt seen this topic previous on the gambling board but i guess this is a good thing to see by the people again because previously there are a lot of people playing with their gambling entertainment and its better to keep them aware what are the Casino and sportsbook that is already a red flag and some issues so the players will play at their own risk and keep them aware threes an issue like this. It is better if OP makes an update with the thread.
the board is rarely updated and usually gets buried on other pages since not many people actively post on it. and yeah, I hope OP would update the thread.

Probably should put BitVest on there, or at least the warning section.
I completely agree with you. their current status/issue is a big deal and gamblers should at least be warned about it.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: CDC AP on November 29, 2021, 04:13:23 PM
Thank you for compiling all those who scam casinos and sportsbooks, it will help other members especially newbies and active gambler on what to avoid, they have now the knowledge to know some legit and some fake casino gambling. Nothing's so special with that for those who are not so active gambler but for those who always want to gamble an try a new one with the faster transaction and have good bonuses, they ate looking for other website and now you already mentioned all those they should avoid, thanks for that.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Lanatsa on November 29, 2021, 09:49:40 PM
Probably should put BitVest on there, or at least the warning section.

They have had significant issues with both their signature campaigns and hot wallets for quite a while now and the owner doesn't seem to be coming back to resolve any issues.

777Coin as well given that it is the sister site of Bitvest.
Its just me not to see any issues regarding with Bitvest or I had just missed it out knowing that this had been a long time running gambling site.I don't see any complaints when it comes to their platform correct me or lead me to those if you do see one so that im aware.

Its good that we do have this list on OP which do at least give out awareness specially for noobs which are new into this market and at least
able to avoid on getting scammed or experience some issues.

Hope that this one would be actively be updated even though it might not simple but we do still appreciate the effort on here.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: acroman08 on November 30, 2021, 01:20:04 PM
Its just me not to see any issues regarding with Bitvest or I had just missed it out knowing that this had been a long time running gambling site.I don't see any complaints when it comes to their platform correct me or lead me to those if you do see one so that im aware.
the issue is about their hot wallet is being frequently empty. a gambler began complaining here in the forum about their website because their hot wallet for fast withdrawal is always empty(according to the complainer). the issue further escalate when another person complained about their hot wallet too, then their signature campaign is behind payments for more than five weeks(or more I am not sure) which has become an issue too.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on December 07, 2021, 09:14:21 PM
I am adding betting website 4444sport.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369802.0) to my list of casinos you should avoid using.
They have strange behavior with creating self-moderated topic, they delete any comment they don't like, they have slow withdrawal and accusation about customer who is waiting for weeks to get his money.
Be careful and do your own research before using any betting website.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: DoublerHunter on December 07, 2021, 09:46:53 PM
I am adding betting website 4444sport.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369802.0) to my list of casinos you should avoid using.
They have strange behavior with creating self-moderated topic, they delete any comment they don't like, they have slow withdrawal and accusation about customer who is waiting for weeks to get his money.
Be careful and do your own research before using any betting website.

^ Definitely right, the first time I thought they are a victim of user harassment on their site and I was trying to be neutral posting comments on their self-topic moderated thread. But now there are too many complaints against them and it seems they going shady activity that started on this thread. How can you trust this gambling casino if they started already on their own threads?
I hope they're a lot of newbies will see this post, so that they will get warned here first.
Have you considered removing this to the Beginners and Help board.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: acroman08 on December 07, 2021, 10:41:47 PM
-snip
the thread being self-moderated is not that strange if they plan to delete off-topic or spam posts(that's what they said when they created that self-moderated thread). but the fact they are deleting any posts that are not in favoring them is a huge red flag and should be called out.

Have you considered removing this to the Beginners and Help board.
do you mean "moving" this thread?


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: decodx on December 07, 2021, 10:59:11 PM
I am adding betting website 4444sport.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369802.0) to my list of casinos you should avoid using.
They have strange behavior with creating self-moderated topic, they delete any comment they don't like, they have slow withdrawal and accusation about customer who is waiting for weeks to get his money.
Be careful and do your own research before using any betting website.

^ Definitely right, the first time I thought they are a victim of user harassment on their site and I was trying to be neutral posting comments on their self-topic moderated thread. But now there are too many complaints against them and it seems they going shady activity that started on this thread. How can you trust this gambling casino if they started already on their own threads?
I hope they're a lot of newbies will see this post, so that they will get warned here first.
Have you considered removing this to the Beginners and Help board.

I agree. I posted a comment as a neutral observer, and there was not a shred of trolling, but it was quickly deleted. To me, that's a big red flag.
I think they only want to use this forum as a marketing tool and don't understand what a discussion board is all about. I believe we have witnessed such behavior in the past.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Mahanton on December 07, 2021, 11:44:23 PM
I am adding betting website 4444sport.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369802.0) to my list of casinos you should avoid using.
They have strange behavior with creating self-moderated topic, they delete any comment they don't like, they have slow withdrawal and accusation about customer who is waiting for weeks to get his money.
Be careful and do your own research before using any betting website.

^ Definitely right, the first time I thought they are a victim of user harassment on their site and I was trying to be neutral posting comments on their self-topic moderated thread. But now there are too many complaints against them and it seems they going shady activity that started on this thread. How can you trust this gambling casino if they started already on their own threads?
I hope they're a lot of newbies will see this post, so that they will get warned here first.
Have you considered removing this to the Beginners and Help board.

I agree. I posted a comment as a neutral observer, and there was not a shred of trolling, but it was quickly deleted. To me, that's a big red flag.
I think they only want to use this forum as a marketing tool and don't understand what a discussion board is all about. I believe we have witnessed such behavior in the past.

They had deleted out my comment too when i had suggested on clearing off their recent issues and feedbacks which turns out to be negative but it do end up on

been deleted by OP itself which is really a very shady behavior and wont be considered to be that fair or something on that part.

Im already having those doubts too.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Bitinity on December 08, 2021, 12:34:47 AM
I am adding betting website 4444sport.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369802.0) to my list of casinos you should avoid using.
They have strange behavior with creating self-moderated topic, they delete any comment they don't like, they have slow withdrawal and accusation about customer who is waiting for weeks to get his money.
Be careful and do your own research before using any betting website.


I was thinking to suggest you when they decided to create the new self moderated thread. It is obviously suspicious behavior when there is someone who is experiencing a withdrawal issue on their site. They deserve to be on the list, no doubt about it.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on December 09, 2021, 03:20:15 PM
444sport was also making a fake betting competition and they never announced and paid anything to any winners.
They are just ignoring to answer anything in their topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5373889.0
This is one more reason to avoid betting on 444sport website.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: decodx on December 16, 2021, 12:15:01 AM
It appears that many of these websites are no longer active.
  • wixiplay.io - Website not found.
  • cryptodice.io - Website not found.
  • megadice.com - Website not found.
  • zamabet.com - Website not found.
  • adkinsbet.com - Website not found.
  • payoutcrypto.com - Website not found.

I love this thread, so I thought it would be good to update it.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Bitinity on December 16, 2021, 01:09:53 AM
It appears that many of these websites are no longer active.
  • wixiplay.io - Website not found.
  • cryptodice.io - Website not found.
  • megadice.com - Website not found.
  • zamabet.com - Website not found.
  • adkinsbet.com - Website not found.
  • payoutcrypto.com - Website not found.

I love this thread, so I thought it would be good to update it.

Although they are no longer active and can be removed from the list, but I think it should be recorded still. Maybe notblox1 can add a new table or add a new column for the status of the listed casinos. In the column, notblox1 can give information about the current status of the casino whether it is ACTIVE or INACTIVE.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: goinmerry on December 16, 2021, 01:38:28 AM
Although they are no longer active and can be removed from the list, but I think it should be recorded still. Maybe notblox1 can add a new table or add a new column for the status of the listed casinos. In the column, notblox1 can give information about the current status of the casino whether it is ACTIVE or INACTIVE.

Or simply putting an ACTIVE or INACTIVE at the end of the description should do. Just want to add that OP can also consider changing the font color for the activity status to make it more noticeable. Just my 2 cents but still OP has the final touch. :)

7.Wixiplay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261052.0) Fake provably fair, Negative feedback, INACTIVE

(the selected color for the activity status is just an example)


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: StLucifer on December 22, 2021, 04:22:15 PM
This is great thread for a compilation of all scams or maybe have open accusation casino I think it's much better if you would also include sports betting sites as well I think some of the sports betting sites lately have some open accusations, scams and more.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Fatunad on December 27, 2021, 11:55:45 PM
This is great thread for a compilation of all scams or maybe have open accusation casino I think it's much better if you would also include sports betting sites as well I think some of the sports betting sites lately have some open accusations, scams and more.
You could already see that its been included.

1xbit
Adkinsbet
444sport

If you do look at these sites then these are bookies.
They are including all sites doesnt matter if its a casino or bookies.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on January 05, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
Or simply putting an ACTIVE or INACTIVE at the end of the description should do. Just want to add that OP can also consider changing the font color for the activity status to make it more noticeable. Just my 2 cents but still OP has the final touch.
I don't have enough time to make cosmetic color changes, or to check links all the time if websites are active or inactive, but you or someone else can help me and post that for me.
I will update first post if more people can confirm that changes are correct and they contribute something new.

If you do look at these sites then these are bookies.
They are including all sites doesnt matter if its a casino or bookies.
I am not saying that all this betting websites are scams, this is just my personal list of websites I am avoiding for betting, because of stated reasons.
Even legitimate websites could find place on my list if I find some warning signs or I hear negative reports from customers.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Mahdirakib on April 17, 2022, 02:52:36 PM
@notblox1, You haven't updated the list for a long time. Recently we have found a new shabby casino. Bettors should avoid them. There is an open scam accusation against LTC casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371356.0). This casino team members are blatant liar and making false excuse to not pay the user. You should add LTC casino in the “Casino to Avoid” list. See the scam accusation against LTC casino: LTC CASINO NOT paying winnings . 1496 Ltc to be paid (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.0)

BTW, I think this topic fits more better in gambling (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0) section rather than gambling discussion. What you think about this?


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on May 02, 2022, 09:12:00 PM
@notblox1, You haven't updated the list for a long time. Recently we have found a new shabby casino. Bettors should avoid them. There is an open scam accusation against LTC casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371356.0). This casino team members are blatant liar and making false excuse to not pay the user. You should add LTC casino in the “Casino to Avoid” list. See the scam accusation against LTC casino: LTC CASINO NOT paying winnings . 1496 Ltc to be paid (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.0)

I am not defending LTC Casino because the case seems to be completely clear and in my opinion they should pay out the winnings in this case. However, officially, LTC Casino has the right to continue to investigate this case. In the rules, they reserve three months for this, which will expire on May 26.

Quote
the Casino reserves the right to block the player's account, while the investigation is being carried out, for a period of up to 3 months.

User won on February 26:

They stolen my money the 26 of Feb 


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Zackgeno96 on May 02, 2022, 09:23:25 PM
BTC365.COM
It's definitely the site in question. Often limiting clients and not paying clients or months of review time.
I just newly registered, only placed 20 bets, then won 200USDT, and then my account was frozen. I deposited around 900USDT!
http://c2n.me/4fzzc5j.png

Unfortunately, I have already read several negative reviews about this casino. I don't want to jump to any conclusions but I think we have to conclude that players should be extremely wary if they decide to make a deposit on this site. It's a shame they don't pay out, they have a nice layout on their site. Maybe there are also players who have been paid out on this site?


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: fiulpro on May 04, 2022, 03:45:31 PM
Hi!
I think you can add another casino to the list as well here :
 https://www.ltccasino.com/ (https://www.ltccasino.com/)
I checked their ANN thread and the user who created the thread by itself has extremely negative ratings, at the same time they did talk about it being of the highest RTP which encouraged me to look at it but other people should approach the casino with the caution. The link to their thread is : [url] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371356.0[url]
It's good to have a list like that so that other people can have an idea and it would be especially helpful for the newbies as well.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: SirLancelot on May 07, 2022, 11:03:56 AM
I think you can add another casino to the list as well here :
 https://www.ltccasino.com/ (https://www.ltccasino.com/)
I checked their ANN thread and the user who created the thread by itself has extremely negative ratings, at the same time they did talk about it being of the highest RTP which encouraged me to look at it but other people should approach the casino with the caution. The link to their thread is : [url] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371356.0[url]
It's good to have a list like that so that other people can have an idea and it would be especially helpful for the newbies as well.
I agree. This is too helpful but I wonder why the op stop updating and bumping it for such a long time? Did he forget it or what? Or maybe he was been busy lately. If only it's possible for our forum to have a feature where other users can edit the main thread, that would be nice but anyway, ltccasino is the latest scam casino found on our forum based on its reviews and ratings. As a newbie it's their job to make a research and it is important for them to backread each pages of every threads, in case op don't update it.

On the main page, I can see that most casinos are known before but it's sad that they turned out to be a scam later on. This is why it's important to stay vigilant and don't put your full trust even that casino is already established.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on July 06, 2022, 07:11:02 PM
New casino website BCH.games (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311987.0) was today added on my list of casinos to be Avoided.
They are tricking customers with accepting deposits in Bitcoin and other coins, but they are converting them all to BCH altcoin, that is making impossible to withdraw Bitcoin anymore.
I can remove and change my feedback if they add normal Bitcoin withdrawals and stop automatic converting of coins to BCH.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: uneng on July 06, 2022, 07:30:36 PM
Hi!
I think you can add another casino to the list as well here :
 https://www.ltccasino.com/ (https://www.ltccasino.com/)
I checked their ANN thread and the user who created the thread by itself has extremely negative ratings, at the same time they did talk about it being of the highest RTP which encouraged me to look at it but other people should approach the casino with the caution. The link to their thread is : [url] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371356.0[url]
It's good to have a list like that so that other people can have an idea and it would be especially helpful for the newbies as well.
This casino is heavily negatively reviewed in different gambling websites. It's mainly said their support is poor or unreachable, games are rigged, gamblers have difficult withdrawing money, although deposits arrive fast without any issues. Their main attractive is the non KYC feature, which encourages many gamblers to test the platform, since it's hard to find non KYC operating casinos these days.

Unfortunately, the feature is just a bait to fish gamblers' funds in a shady way.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Mahdirakib on July 08, 2022, 06:54:34 PM
~snip~
What you think about BK8 casino? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318340.0) The situation is almost same there. Bk8 convert the deposits into USD, and USDT (TRC-20) is the only withdrawal method at the site. BCH.games aren't scamming their users, and I know that this list isn't about the scam casinos only. But in my opinion, they aren't so bad to be listed in “Casino to Avoid” section. Wouldn't it be enough to put them in the ‘Grey list’?
I'm not trying to defend BCH.games here. I have shared my thoughts only :)


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on July 08, 2022, 07:19:59 PM
Wouldn't it be enough to put them in the ‘Grey list’?
I'm not trying to defend BCH.games here. I have shared my thoughts only :)
You are right, it would be better to put them in some grey list, but problem is they said they would add Bitcoin withdrawals long time ago and they still didn't do anything about that.
Mahdirakib I am not very good with tables and I need help from you to fix it because I am getting error code after I messed up something with editing.
I tried to add BK8 casino and LTC casino and I made some mistake that I don't know how to fix :(
Please check your PM.

This is error code I am getting:
Code:
INVALID BBCODE: close of unopened tag in table (1)


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Mahdirakib on July 08, 2022, 08:37:17 PM
@notblox1, You have made some mistakes in the first row. And you have also made some mistakes in the BCH.games and Ltccasino row. You have entered two extra table command in those two casinos row. Moreover, you haven't ended the data cell “[ /td ]” and row cell “[ /tr ]” on those casinos row. I tried to fix those and the table should look like this. Update this in the OP.

Casino to Avoid Reasons for avoiding
1. Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) Using the 777Coin name, Scam accusations, Fake provably fair, Negative feedback, Death threats, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
2. Satoshi Casino (https://ninjastic.space/topic/5283572)  Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
3. Crypsino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214440.0) Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
4. Bitstarz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651730.0) Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, Not paying
5. 1xbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0) Many Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, locking users funds
6. 888STARZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250346) Scam Accussations, 1xbet owned, locking users funds
7. Wixiplay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261052.0) Fake provably fair, Negative feedback
8. Cryptodice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264759.0) Negative feedback, Not responding to scam accusations, Satoshidice old name
9. Megadice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828431.0) Open Scam accusations, Owner not responding
10. Safedice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868275.0) Negative feedback, Owners are not active and not responding
11. Betmatch (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5029854.0) Banned from forum, Scam accusations, holding payouts, bad support
12. ZigZagsports (https://web.archive.org/web/20201001001903/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279105.0) Website not working 404 error, Changing domains RU
13. Betking.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0) Scam accusations, Hacked, Lost investors funds
14. AceDBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.0) issues with withdrawal, slow support, website not working
15. 1xbit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3906360.0) many Scam accusations, negative feedback, bad support
16. wbet7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2607019.0) scam accusations, not active in bitcointalk forum
17. BitcoinCasino.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0) scam accusation
18. CyberBet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0) scam accusations, negative trust feedback, not active in forum anymore
19. Kawbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227494.0) connected with 1xbet/1xbit casionp group who allready have bad reputation
20. Zamabet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310725.0) Clone of satoshiCasino, crypsino and coins777 scams, Fake provably fair, Plagiarism, Negative feedback
21. Adkinsbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.0) Dead website, Accusations in forum, left the forum, bet manipulations, purchased shilling accounts
22. PayoutCrypto.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318112.0) Suspicious casino with cloned games, no license and only with discord support
23. Gamebets.website (https://ninjastic.space/post/56385807) Suspicious casino with cloned games, no license and only with discord support, new domain
24. 4444sport.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369802.0) Strange behavior with self-moderated topic, slow withdrawal, customer waiting for weeks, accusations
25. BCH.games (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311987.0) They are converting all Bitcoin deposits to altcoin BCH and you can't withdraw Bitcoin anymore from their casino
26. Ltccasino.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371356.0) They have negative feedback from members in forum, but there are signs of them paying back their customers
27. bk8btc.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318340.0) They are converting all Bitcoin deposits to altcoin USDT and you can't withdraw Bitcoin anymore from their casino


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: BitcoinAccepted on July 08, 2022, 08:48:36 PM
I think these lists are not always reliable. Those lists are good to make, but are often also based on the experience of 1 specific player. Every player has their own story and conclusion about a particular casino, it would be unfair to make a review based on that data with an incorrect conclusion. I'm not in this topic to promote my own casino, I'm just saying that you can only compile such lists when you have multiple sources what they think about a certain casino.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on July 09, 2022, 09:03:26 PM
@notblox1, You have made some mistakes in the first row. And you have also made some mistakes in the BCH.games and Ltccasino row. You have entered two extra table command in those two casinos row. Moreover, you haven't ended the data cell “[ /td ]” and row cell “[ /tr ]” on those casinos row. I tried to fix those and the table should look like this. Update this in the OP.
Thank you for fixing this Mahdirakib, you are a true help wizard!  ;)
I need to learn better how to edit and remove stuff from tables, but temporary I painted BCH.games and bk8btc.com with grey color, and I wouldn't use them but I am not saying they are scam.
If you have time please check the first post and tell me how can I move out two gray colored casinos, without messing everything up again.
For everyone else, this is my personal list, not some holly scripture everyone should read and obey at all times.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Mahdirakib on July 10, 2022, 05:55:07 PM
~snip~
It isn't so much complicated to realize the formation of a table. You will find it easy once you get your control over it. You want to remove two casinos details from the list. So, you have to remove the full row commands of those casinos. And the row command starts with ‘[ tr ]’ and ends with ‘[ /tr ]’. Completely remove these two rows elements from the table for moving out those gray colored casinos.

Code:
[tr]
        [td][/td][td][b][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311987.0]25. BCH.games[/url][/b][/td][td][/td]
        [td][/td][td][b][color=grey] They are converting all Bitcoin deposits to altcoin BCH and you can't withdraw Bitcoin anymore from their casino[/color][/b][/td][td][/td]
        [/tr]

[tr]
        [td][/td][td][b][url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318340.0]27. bk8btc.com[/url][/b][/td][td][/td]
        [td][/td][td][b][color=grey] They are converting all Bitcoin deposits to stable coin USD or USDT, and you can't withdraw Bitcoin anymore from their casino[/color][/b][/td][td][/td]
        [/tr]

BTW, see the ‘preview’ of the table before submitting your post after removing those two rows. Don't submit the post if you notice that the table got messed up and showing error message ;). Feel free to PM me if you need further help :)


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: swogerino on July 10, 2022, 07:45:16 PM
I have a different approach to such list.I don't know 90% of these casinos listed here and I am believing the OP in good will that these casinos are to avoid because I assume he has done enough research before posting this,no need for me to verify as I will never join one of these casinos.Personally when I try to join a casino I read the very Gambling section of the forum where all the different casinos have their ANN thread.I check the ones with the biggest number of pages as the thread,meaning they are old here and if feedback says they are trustworthy,offer the same benefits if not more than most other new casinos I don't see why would I want to join them because I personally don't feel the need to try different casinos when I have a couple of them fulfilling all of my desires.

I think that most of the scam accusations against scam casinos are because of users not doing their own research before deciding to register and play in a casino.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on July 12, 2022, 09:59:27 PM
It isn't so much complicated to realize the formation of a table. You will find it easy once you get your control over it. You want to remove two casinos details from the list. So, you have to remove the full row commands of those casinos. And the row command starts with ‘[ tr ]’ and ends with ‘[ /tr ]’. Completely remove these two rows elements from the table for moving out those gray colored casinos.
Thank you again for your help.
I know that I messed up something with TR letters because I was tired and wanted to finish editing quickly.
Do you know if there are instructions and explanations for making and editing this tables in forum?

BTW, see the ‘preview’ of the table before submitting your post after removing those two rows. Don't submit the post if you notice that the table got messed up and showing error message ;). Feel free to PM me if you need further help :)
I am always using preview before doing big editing, but last time by accident I clicked Post button and I realized there is no coming back with editing anymore. :)


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Wind_FURY on July 13, 2022, 10:08:45 AM
Quote

25. BCH.games         They are converting all Bitcoin deposits to altcoin BCH and you can't withdraw Bitcoin anymore from their casino


Is that true? BCH.games is not only using a currency that's an actual attack on Bitcoin, but the casino ITSELF is a kind of social engineering attack on newbies who might not know the difference between Bitcoin, and the shitcoin called "Bitcoin Cash". OR, not a social engineering attack, it could be a scam. They keep your precious Bitcoins, they give you the fake-Bitcoin.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Wakate on July 13, 2022, 01:24:30 PM
This is great thread for a compilation of all scams or maybe have open accusation casino I think it's much better if you would also include sports betting sites as well I think some of the sports betting sites lately have some open accusations, scams and more.
You could already see that its been included.

1xbit
Adkinsbet
444sport

If you do look at these sites then these are bookies.
They are including all sites doesnt matter if its a casino or bookies.
There are many gambling platforms like the ones you have listed that are also toxic to gamblers and there is need to unveal them to the public to prevent gamblers from using them and later fall victim to these scammy gambling sites. I know I have fell victim to these kind of gambling site at my early stage in gambling when I know about reputable gambling platforms that are in the crypto market. This thread is helping lots of newbies from using sites like this ones that do not allow users to withdraw there funds especially when the money is huge.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: virasisog on July 13, 2022, 03:32:40 PM
This is great thread for a compilation of all scams or maybe have open accusation casino I think it's much better if you would also include sports betting sites as well I think some of the sports betting sites lately have some open accusations, scams and more.
You could already see that its been included.

1xbit
Adkinsbet
444sport

If you do look at these sites then these are bookies.
They are including all sites doesnt matter if its a casino or bookies.
There are many gambling platforms like the ones you have listed that are also toxic to gamblers and there is need to unveal them to the public to prevent gamblers from using them and later fall victim to these scammy gambling sites. I know I have fell victim to these kind of gambling site at my early stage in gambling when I know about reputable gambling platforms that are in the crypto market. This thread is helping lots of newbies from using sites like this ones that do not allow users to withdraw there funds especially when the money is huge.

It will be a big help, especially to newbies who are not familiar with these sites. Newbies need this kind of list for awareness and enlightenment so they would know what to trust and what to avoid. We can't deny the fact that scam accusations are existing day by day so we need to spread this kind of awareness so no one would fall as victim again. The reputation and trust rate of a site are the things that we have to check first.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Mahdirakib on July 13, 2022, 03:39:53 PM
Do you know if there are instructions and explanations for making and editing this tables in forum?
There are some instructions in the help page of the forum. It won't help you much to learn about the table formation. But remember this instructions always

Note the correct nesting of the tags, so the 'table' tags contain the 'tr' tags, which each contain an equal number of 'td' tags!

I found this topic where you can get the explanations for making the tables: Tutorial - How to create Table in the BitcoinTalk Forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265782.0)
But I couldn't find any topic with the instructions and explanation regarding this. Wasn't it you who formatted the table of the main post? Or you have done it with the help of someone else?


BTW, what are you going to do with BCH.games and Bk8btc.com? You have added them in the “Casino to Avoid” list with grey colored comments. You have also written their name in the “Grey list” without any comments.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: TheGreatPython on July 14, 2022, 12:03:30 PM
I have a different approach to such list.I don't know 90% of these casinos listed here and I am believing the OP in good will that these casinos are to avoid because I assume he has done enough research before posting this,no need for me to verify as I will never join one of these casinos.Personally when I try to join a casino I read the very Gambling section of the forum where all the different casinos have their ANN thread.I check the ones with the biggest number of pages as the thread,meaning they are old here and if feedback says they are trustworthy,offer the same benefits if not more than most other new casinos I don't see why would I want to join them because I personally don't feel the need to try different casinos when I have a couple of them fulfilling all of my desires.
Same here. I think I only know about 10 percent of them. Too bad that we recognized them not because they are great but because they have a bad reputation. OP is not new here and I think many of us here know this user already so yes you can trust him with his list. I am sure that he won't do something that can tarnish his reputation but if ever you are in doubt, you can always check them one by one (the list) and then compare the review from other sources but you should be careful trusting other sources because some of them are only being paid to write a fake feedback.

I think that most of the scam accusations against scam casinos are because of users not doing their own research before deciding to register and play in a casino.
Yes, this is usually the case but there are some that immediately accuse a casino even if there was only a miss understanding that happen and that casino isn't really a scam.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on July 20, 2022, 10:47:02 PM
Wasn't it you who formatted the table of the main post? Or you have done it with the help of someone else?
I did table formatting myself but it was sloppy work and I copied and than edited post from someone else, don't remember what post exactly  ;D
I tried following your last instructions to remove two lines from table but preview is not giving me good results so I left everything alone for now.
Thanks for posting Tutorial, I will try to improve my table format skills.

BTW, what are you going to do with BCH.games and Bk8btc.com? You have added them in the “Casino to Avoid” list with grey colored comments. You have also written their name in the “Grey list” without any comments.
They are part of my grey list but temporary still mixed with my red list casinos and color with feedback is correct.

update: I fixed everything now  :)


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on August 29, 2022, 08:48:09 PM
New casino Fortunejack (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411207.0) added to My List of Casinos to be Avoided.
They randomly locked my account, than asked me to send kyc verification for $200, and they seized all my coins; so don't ever use this casino without passing kyc verification.
There is high chance you will lose all your money if you want to keep privacy, and they won't return any of your deposited coins.

This is my full updated list of casinos to avoid:

Casino to Avoid Reasons for avoiding
1. Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) Using the 777Coin name, Scam accusations, Fake provably fair, Negative feedback, Death threats, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
2. Satoshi Casino (https://ninjastic.space/topic/5283572)  Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
3. Crypsino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214440.0) Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
4. Bitstarz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651730.0) Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, Not paying
5. 1xbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0) Many Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, locking users funds
6. 888STARZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250346) Scam Accussations, 1xbet owned, locking users funds
7. Wixiplay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261052.0) Fake provably fair, Negative feedback
8. Cryptodice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264759.0) Negative feedback, Not responding to scam accusations, Satoshidice old name
9. Megadice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828431.0) Open Scam accusations, Owner not responding
10. Safedice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868275.0) Negative feedback, Owners are not active and not responding
11. Betmatch (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5029854.0) Banned from forum, Scam accusations, holding payouts, bad support
12. ZigZagsports (https://web.archive.org/web/20201001001903/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279105.0) Website not working 404 error, Changing domains RU
13. Betking.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0) Scam accusations, Hacked, Lost investors funds
14. AceDBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.0) issues with withdrawal, slow support, website not working
15. 1xbit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3906360.0) many Scam accusations, negative feedback, bad support
16. wbet7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2607019.0) scam accusations, not active in bitcointalk forum
17. BitcoinCasino.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0) scam accusation
18. CyberBet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0) scam accusations, negative trust feedback, not active in forum anymore
19. Kawbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227494.0) connected with 1xbet/1xbit casionp group who allready have bad reputation
20. Zamabet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310725.0) Clone of satoshiCasino, crypsino and coins777 scams, Fake provably fair, Plagiarism, Negative feedback
21. Adkinsbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.0) Dead website, Accusations in forum, left the forum, bet manipulations, purchased shilling accounts
22. PayoutCrypto.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318112.0) Suspicious casino with cloned games, no license and only with discord support
23. Gamebets.website (https://ninjastic.space/post/56385807) Suspicious casino with cloned games, no license and only with discord support, new domain
24. 4444sport.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369802.0) Strange behavior with self-moderated topic, slow withdrawal, customer waiting for weeks, accusations
25. Ltccasino.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371356.0) They have negative feedback from members in forum, but there are signs of them paying back their customers
26. Fortunejack (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411207.0) They randomly locked my account, asked for kyc verification for $200 and seized my coins; Don't use this casino without KYC!


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Bitinity on September 07, 2022, 08:06:28 AM
BTW, what are you going to do with BCH.games and Bk8btc.com? You have added them in the “Casino to Avoid” list with grey colored comments. You have also written their name in the “Grey list” without any comments.
They are part of my grey list but temporary still mixed with my red list casinos and color with feedback is correct.

The option to withdraw bitcoin in bk8 is up again now, they put it back few days ago as you can read in this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318340.msg60886215#msg60886215). I think you can remove it from your grey list now or at least change the feedback because players are now able to deposit and withdraw BTC.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on September 23, 2022, 07:06:56 PM
The option to withdraw bitcoin in bk8 is up again now, they put it back few days ago as you can read in this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318340.msg60886215#msg60886215). I think you can remove it from your grey list now or at least change the feedback because players are now able to deposit and withdraw BTC.
Thank you for posting feedback, and sorry for noticing this later.
I will remove this casino from grey list if this is true but can you please post some evidence for this, or some other member can confirm this because I don't have BK8 casino account.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Bitinity on September 23, 2022, 11:52:02 PM
The option to withdraw bitcoin in bk8 is up again now, they put it back few days ago as you can read in this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318340.msg60886215#msg60886215). I think you can remove it from your grey list now or at least change the feedback because players are now able to deposit and withdraw BTC.
Thank you for posting feedback, and sorry for noticing this later.
I will remove this casino from grey list if this is true but can you please post some evidence for this, or some other member can confirm this because I don't have BK8 casino account.


There are some discussion about this in their ANN thread as well as in Pmalek's thread about BTC min withdrawal and its fee of the existing casino in this forum. However, let me show you the proof about it from my bk8 account as shown below:

https://i.imgur.com/ICD2wRD.png

Other proof can be read here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318340.msg60886215#msg60886215) as the 1st one who announced that btc withdrawal is back in bk8.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on September 26, 2022, 09:10:38 PM
There are some discussion about this in their ANN thread as well as in Pmalek's thread about BTC min withdrawal and its fee of the existing casino in this forum. However, let me show you the proof about it from my bk8 account as shown below
Thank you Bitinity, that is more than enough proof for me so I removed bk8 gambling website from my grey list.
If I decide to test this website I will write more about my experience with it, same like for all other gambling websites here.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Memo101 on January 02, 2023, 07:11:44 PM
After testing and using many of casinos and betting websites I deicded to create my own list of Casinos everyone should be avoiding.
There can be many reasons for this and some of them are posting false information, suspicion for fraud or scam, not paying withdrawals, bad software, etc.
Please do NOT bump or post anything in their topics, but better report, post feedback on profiles and ignore them.

Casino to Avoid Reasons for avoiding
1. Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) Using the 777Coin name, Scam accusations, Fake provably fair, Negative feedback, Death threats, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
2. Satoshi Casino (https://ninjastic.space/topic/5283572)  Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
3. Crypsino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214440.0) Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
4. Bitstarz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651730.0) Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, Not paying
5. 1xbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0) Many Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, locking users funds
6. 888STARZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250346) Scam Accussations, 1xbet owned, locking users funds
7. Wixiplay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261052.0) Fake provably fair, Negative feedback
8. Cryptodice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264759.0) Negative feedback, Not responding to scam accusations, Satoshidice old name
9. Megadice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828431.0) Open Scam accusations, Owner not responding
10. Safedice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868275.0) Negative feedback, Owners are not active and not responding
11. Betmatch (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5029854.0) Banned from forum, Scam accusations, holding payouts, bad support
12. ZigZagsports (https://web.archive.org/web/20201001001903/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279105.0) Website not working 404 error, Changing domains RU
13. Betking.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0) Scam accusations, Hacked, Lost investors funds
14. AceDBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.0) issues with withdrawal, slow support, website not working
15. 1xbit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3906360.0) many Scam accusations, negative feedback, bad support
16. wbet7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2607019.0) scam accusations, not active in bitcointalk forum
17. BitcoinCasino.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0) scam accusation
18. CyberBet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0) scam accusations, negative trust feedback, not active in forum anymore
19. Kawbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227494.0) connected with 1xbet/1xbit casionp group who allready have bad reputation
20. Zamabet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310725.0) Clone of satoshiCasino, crypsino and coins777 scams, Fake provably fair, Plagiarism, Negative feedback
21. Adkinsbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.0) Dead website, Accusations in forum, left the forum, bet manipulations, purchased shilling accounts
22. PayoutCrypto.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318112.0) Suspicious casino with cloned games, no license and only with discord support
23. Gamebets.website (https://ninjastic.space/post/56385807) Suspicious casino with cloned games, no license and only with discord support, new domain
24. 4444sport.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369802.0) Strange behavior with self-moderated topic, slow withdrawal, customer waiting for weeks, accusations
25. Ltccasino.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371356.0) They have negative feedback from members in forum, but there are signs of them paying back their customers
26. Fortunejack (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411207.0) They randomly locked my account, asked for kyc verification for $200 and seized my coins; Don't use this casino without KYC!
27. TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/) They are accusing people for cheating and making late bets, there are negative feedback from few memebers

Never invest more than you are afford to lose in any Casino, and if you are addicted to gambling please seek for medical help.

*Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) is not in any way related to well known 777coin.com!

Some casinos are not on the list, but they have mixed feedback and they are on my Grey list:

- Duckdice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1676313)
- Betonline.ag (https://www.betonline.ag/) (several scam accusations in forum)
- Bitbook.ag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109508.0) (used fake team member during ICO, later said it was mistake)
- Nitrogensports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159098.0) (Negative feedback, Bad customer support, Confusing rollover rule, Last case was resolved)
- BCH.games (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311987.0) (They are converting all Bitcoin deposits to altcoin BCH and you can't withdraw Bitcoin anymore from their casino)


Please consider that some members who left negative feedback are no longer with us.

- Any Casino website listed here is HIGH RISK with multiple complains, but you need to do your own research for each of them and read feedback on their profiles.
- This is NOT a list of Scams, but just my personal list of websites to avoid for betting.
- I can also list a website that has bad software or bad support that don't care about customers.
- Having negative feedback does not guarantee website will be listed here.
- You can suggest more bad casinos and sportsbook if they created topic in bitcointalk forum, and I will consider adding them.

Some of blacklisted Casinos can also be found on BTCGOSU website by member efialtis:
https://www.btcgosu.com/bitcoin-casino-blacklist/
so duckdice is on gray list while there is more going on recently against them on forum.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on January 02, 2023, 08:36:52 PM
so duckdice is on gray list while there is more going on recently against them on forum.
I was not following what is happening with DuckDice in last weeks but I can always change my list, move them in red casinos, or remove from list if they improve.
Let me check what is going on and I will try to post update during this week if I see something alarming.
I see last thing they posted was Merry Christmas in the end of Decvember.
 


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Memo101 on January 03, 2023, 07:51:50 AM
so duckdice is on gray list while there is more going on recently against them on forum.
I was not following what is happening with DuckDice in last weeks but I can always change my list, move them in red casinos, or remove from list if they improve.
Let me check what is going on and I will try to post update during this week if I see something alarming.
I see last thing they posted was Merry Christmas in the end of Decvember.
 
well there is alot going on right now,
i dont know where you keep following them

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5430960.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432812.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371555.0


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Mahdirakib on January 04, 2023, 04:51:23 PM
i dont know where you keep following them ~
The first and third accusation is almost same. Perhaps, both of those accusations have been made by the same person. Maybe it's you, because you are trying to highlight those old topics here to create pressure on Duckdice team. You have also bumped the old topic. The second accusation has been resolved (his withdrawal has been processed). You may follow this thread if you have doubt about Duckdice reputation: Duckdice Reputation Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384155.0)


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Memo101 on January 05, 2023, 04:42:14 AM
i dont know where you keep following them ~
The first and third accusation is almost same. Perhaps, both of those accusations have been made by the same person. Maybe it's you, because you are trying to highlight those old topics here to create pressure on Duckdice team. You have also bumped the old topic. The second accusation has been resolved (his withdrawal has been processed). You may follow this thread if you have doubt about Duckdice reputation: Duckdice Reputation Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384155.0)
oh i can see you are defending duckdice.io on every thread are you one of them? there is many accusations against duck as legendary level says on that threads to avoid such casinos next time


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: bittraffic on January 05, 2023, 05:54:05 AM
so duckdice is on gray list while there is more going on recently against them on forum.
I was not following what is happening with DuckDice in last weeks but I can always change my list, move them in red casinos, or remove from list if they improve.
Let me check what is going on and I will try to post update during this week if I see something alarming.
I see last thing they posted was Merry Christmas in the end of Decvember.
 

Sounds reasonable if they have improved. It is hard for a tainted casino to get thier reputation back like having a fresh start with a clean slate when they have already been marked red. But Duckdice started great afaik they may have to take a hard route to resolve accusations since people are not very forgiving.

You didn't put Fortunejack on the grey list. KYC is already accepted in this industry, I think it's now just up to the users if they fill it up.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Yurkov on January 05, 2023, 07:56:37 PM
i dont know where you keep following them ~
The first and third accusation is almost same. Perhaps, both of those accusations have been made by the same person. Maybe it's you, because you are trying to highlight those old topics here to create pressure on Duckdice team. You have also bumped the old topic. The second accusation has been resolved (his withdrawal has been processed). You may follow this thread if you have doubt about Duckdice reputation: Duckdice Reputation Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384155.0)

I also have the impression that for several days someone has been trying to attack Duckdice in various ways.



...
well there is alot going on right now,
i dont know where you keep following them

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5430960.0

There have been several answers to this case already, this is the last one:

This will be my final comment on the matter:

1. OP isn't able to provide any proof that the account belongs to him, no previous IP, no previous wallet addresses used,  he can not even name the email address being used with the account !!!
2. He also claimed that his access to the account was lost due to the fact of having his phone "stolen" ,  The account OP is trying to claim has never been accesed via phone mobile !!!
3. Igumama or richardo or crewchellenge or Nomercy or whatever new Bitcointalk alt you're going around these days, judging by your way of going around things, on Bitcointalk and off,  as a previous user mentioned in this thread ( thank you for making the connection),  we will not humour you anymore in this matter, regardless of the amount of fake reviews you put out right now on Bitcointalk or TrustPilot.

Duckdice Support,


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432812.0

This case is also explained - it is enough to read the thread. Did you do that?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371555.0

This case is from November 2021 and person that created this thread have been active here just an hour without any proofs:

Date Registered:   November 16, 2021, 03:53:38 AM
Last Active:   November 16, 2021, 04:55:07 AM

I understand that you may be somewhat dissatisfied with the use of Duckdice, but what you are doing is more manipulation than a genuine desire to demonstrate the truth about the casino.



Ps. Sorry if this is off top but I thought it should be clarified.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Kirito89 on January 06, 2023, 06:29:26 AM
i dont know where you keep following them ~
The first and third accusation is almost same. Perhaps, both of those accusations have been made by the same person. Maybe it's you, because you are trying to highlight those old topics here to create pressure on Duckdice team. You have also bumped the old topic. The second accusation has been resolved (his withdrawal has been processed). You may follow this thread if you have doubt about Duckdice reputation: Duckdice Reputation Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384155.0)

I also have the impression that for several days someone has been trying to attack Duckdice in various ways.



...
well there is alot going on right now,
i dont know where you keep following them

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5430960.0

There have been several answers to this case already, this is the last one:

This will be my final comment on the matter:

1. OP isn't able to provide any proof that the account belongs to him, no previous IP, no previous wallet addresses used,  he can not even name the email address being used with the account !!!
2. He also claimed that his access to the account was lost due to the fact of having his phone "stolen" ,  The account OP is trying to claim has never been accesed via phone mobile !!!
3. Igumama or richardo or crewchellenge or Nomercy or whatever new Bitcointalk alt you're going around these days, judging by your way of going around things, on Bitcointalk and off,  as a previous user mentioned in this thread ( thank you for making the connection),  we will not humour you anymore in this matter, regardless of the amount of fake reviews you put out right now on Bitcointalk or TrustPilot.

Duckdice Support,


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432812.0

This case is also explained - it is enough to read the thread. Did you do that?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5371555.0

This case is from November 2021 and person that created this thread have been active here just an hour without any proofs:

Date Registered:   November 16, 2021, 03:53:38 AM
Last Active:   November 16, 2021, 04:55:07 AM

I understand that you may be somewhat dissatisfied with the use of Duckdice, but what you are doing is more manipulation than a genuine desire to demonstrate the truth about the casino.



Ps. Sorry if this is off top but I thought it should be clarified.


I strongly believe that Memo101 is aswell igumama, richardo and various other bitcointalk newbie accounts.   Igumama recently started a manipulation thread trying to take over a high roller inactive duckdice accounts ( basically he's been trying this in the past aswell, he tries to take over abbandoned accounts then proceeds to ask for benefits, something along the lines " I have wagered, lost a lot on your casino in the past, please give me bonus).  He couldn't provide any proof whatsoever of owning the account, which we obviously denied him , and his usual mode of operation as in the past is   1. create a story to gain simpathy from the community,   2. Revive inactive threads on bitcointalk ( mostly started from his alt accounts) that were "dead" for 1-2 years,   3.   Proceed in spamming our trustpilot page with fake reviews, while it seems trustpilot is flagging his multiple accounts/fake reviews and removes them, it's not happening as fast as we'd like,  though it's quite funny to see the similar posts with identical spelling mistakes, and getting 5-10 negative reviews in a few hours.

While I have no concrete evidence that he's behind all these bitcointalk accounts ( I'm sure an moderator/admin would be able to link the accounts via ip/device) this smear campaign basically started a few days/week  since Igumama came up with his new story.

So I really appreciate all the people here actually looking into it and not jumping on the "lets bash them bandwagon",   as I wasn't even aware of this thread until checking "Memo101"'s recent posts as I saw he re-vived a dead 1 year thread.

If there are ever any clarifications needed I'm also available via pm in case new allegations pop-up.


Duckdice Support.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Mahdirakib on May 02, 2023, 07:45:05 PM
@notblox1, TrustDice has resolved the old issues. There is no negative feedback on TrustDice representative account from a valuable forum member. But they received some neutral feedback for not solving the issues in a professional way. Maybe it is better to keep them in the gray list instead of the red zone.

BTW, give a look into the Coinplay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5420930.0) casino. They are scamming their users unethically. They deserve to be in the red zone in the table.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on May 03, 2023, 02:08:58 PM
@notblox1, TrustDice has resolved the old issues. There is no negative feedback on TrustDice representative account from a valuable forum member. But they received some neutral feedback for not solving the issues in a professional way. Maybe it is better to keep them in the gray list instead of the red zone.
OK Mahdirakib, thank you for updating me on situation with TrustDice, and I decided to remove them from my list of casinos that should be avoided.
I confirm that there are no more negative feedbacks on Trustdice account, only neutral are left.
If they solved all the issues like you cay they deserve to have second chance like anyone.

BTW, give a look into the Coinplay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5420930.0) casino. They are scamming their users unethically. They deserve to be in the red zone in the table.
They are certainly going in my red list.
Negative feedback, scam accusations, they are confiscating money from customers, and this is more than enough to stay away from them.
Thank you again.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on June 17, 2023, 09:31:56 PM
New casino is added on my list of casinos to be avoided, and that is MegaPari (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418423.0).

I spent some testing time them and initially everything looked good, but soon problems started to happen.
When I was testing how withdrawal is working there was mysterious problem with USDT tokens that didnt work correctly in their system.
More than five days ago I am waiting to receive my coins and they are canceling and then asking me to withdraw again, than canceling again.
After waiting for days I tried another withdrawal around June 20 when withdrawal finally worked and I received my coins.
I updated my feedback but MegaPari needs to improve a lot.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Igebotz on June 21, 2023, 10:22:18 PM
New casino is added on my list of casinos to be avoided, and that is MegaPari (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5418423.0).

I spent some testing time them and initially everything looked good, but soon problems started to happen.
When I was testing how withdrawal is working there was mysterious problem with USDT tokens that didnt work correctly in their system.
More than five days ago I am waiting to receive my coins and they are canceling and then asking me to withdraw again, than canceling again.
After waiting for days I tried another withdrawal around June 20 when withdrawal finally worked and I received my coins.
I updated my feedback but MegaPari needs to improve a lot.

Don't you think urging the community to shun a casino simply because you had a negative withdrawal experience is asking too much? I dislike casinos that don't use a hot wallet for withdrawals, although your issue could have been caused by a system error or something else. I looked up the casino and it has the type of market I enjoy playing in, so I've already signed up. If I were you, I would use neutral feedback instead.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on June 22, 2023, 09:04:38 AM
Don't you think urging the community to shun a casino simply because you had a negative withdrawal experience is asking too much? I dislike casinos that don't use a hot wallet for withdrawals, although your issue could have been caused by a system error or something else. I looked up the casino and it has the type of market I enjoy playing in, so I've already signed up. If I were you, I would use neutral feedback instead.
No it is not, and its not only one bad experience with withdrawal, this happened multiple times, and I am including all other problems I had with MegaPari.
If some website gets in my red list that doesnt alwaysmean that casino is a scam, but Megapari does have some suspicious connection with 1xbet and 1xbitthat should be investigated more.
Support at megapari is one of the worst I ever saw in crypto casinos and when I combine all that with other things I said I simply cant recommend Megapari right now.
If they improve in future and if I test them again and see they changed something than I can update my rating for them.

Let me say one more thing, I WILL NEVER write positive review for any website simply because they paid me to write review for them.
You can mark my words.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Igebotz on June 22, 2023, 12:56:32 PM
Don't you think urging the community to shun a casino simply because you had a negative withdrawal experience is asking too much? I dislike casinos that don't use a hot wallet for withdrawals, although your issue could have been caused by a system error or something else. I looked up the casino and it has the type of market I enjoy playing in, so I've already signed up. If I were you, I would use neutral feedback instead.
No it is not, and its not only one bad experience with withdrawal, this happened multiple times, and I am including all other problems I had with MegaPari.
If some website gets in my red list that doesnt alwaysmean that casino is a scam, but Megapari does have some suspicious connection with 1xbet and 1xbitthat should be investigated more.
Support at megapari is one of the worst I ever saw in crypto casinos and when I combine all that with other things I said I simply cant recommend Megapari right now.
If they improve in future and if I test them again and see they changed something than I can update my rating for them.

Let me say one more thing, I WILL NEVER write positive review for any website simply because they paid me to write review for them.
You can mark my words.

Have you attempted to reach them through the forum? I'm aware that many casino representatives on the forum may be real jerks (like the one I left a neutral review for a few days ago). I think it's incompetent of them to ignore important questions and concentrate only on positive reviews.

What led you to believe that Megapari and Ixbit are connected? Although they have the same market options but the site appears different. I can't dig at them right now, but if you have any clue I might look deeper.

Paid reviews are for honest feedbacks, and from what I've seen, they pay for both favourable and negative criticism.

The most recent review I did forced the project to close after reading my reviews (will provide link) since I told them everything he needed to know.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on June 22, 2023, 09:34:17 PM
Have you attempted to reach them through the forum? I'm aware that many casino representatives on the forum may be real jerks (like the one I left a neutral review for a few days ago). I think it's incompetent of them to ignore important questions and concentrate only on positive reviews.
I wrote a few posts tied with my review in their topic and that was more than enough for them to know what is happening.

What led you to believe that Megapari and Ixbit are connected? Although they have the same market options but the site appears different. I can't dig at them right now, but if you have any clue I might look deeper.
Some members wrote about that and they know more about this topic.
For me it was enough to open this two or three websites and see they are nearly identical in everything.

Paid reviews are for honest feedbacks, and from what I've seen, they pay for both favourable and negative criticism.
::) yeah right, most reviews I see is quickly written words in few minutes, mostly positive because they are scared of not getting paid for criticism.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Igebotz on June 23, 2023, 06:12:04 AM
What led you to believe that Megapari and Ixbit are connected? Although they have the same market options but the site appears different. I can't dig at them right now, but if you have any clue I might look deeper.
Some members wrote about that and they know more about this topic.
For me it was enough to open this two or three websites and see they are nearly identical in everything.

Two or their websites could be using the same software, I don't see the same market options or site similarities as sufficient proof to link two websites together; have you tried looking for their doc?  I haven't seen a Megapari fraud allegation thread on the site (maybe because I'm not as frequent on the scam accusation board), and I need to conduct more research because I plan to play there soon.

Paid reviews are for honest feedbacks, and from what I've seen, they pay for both favourable and negative criticism.
::) yeah right, most reviews I see is quickly written words in few minutes, mostly positive because they are scared of not getting paid for criticism.

This is why a project that values honest feedback hires only reputable members rather than random newbies.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on June 23, 2023, 09:11:05 PM
Two or their websites could be using the same software, I don't see the same market options or site similarities as sufficient proof to link two websites together; have you tried looking for their doc?  I haven't seen a Megapari fraud allegation thread on the site (maybe because I'm not as frequent on the scam accusation board), and I need to conduct more research because I plan to play there soon.
Dude do your own research if you are so interested about Megapari.
It is strange that all of this similar websites are coming from the same region and they write in Russian language, so it is not only a software.
I never said they are a scam and my list of casinos for avoiding is not about scam, but some of them are included.
End of discussion about Megapari for me ;)


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: FatFork on July 18, 2023, 03:17:33 PM
Two or their websites could be using the same software, I don't see the same market options or site similarities as sufficient proof to link two websites together; have you tried looking for their doc?  I haven't seen a Megapari fraud allegation thread on the site (maybe because I'm not as frequent on the scam accusation board), and I need to conduct more research because I plan to play there soon.
Dude do your own research if you are so interested about Megapari.
It is strange that all of this similar websites are coming from the same region and they write in Russian language, so it is not only a software.
I never said they are a scam and my list of casinos for avoiding is not about scam, but some of them are included.
End of discussion about Megapari for me ;)


Sorry for bumping this discussion again, but I just found out that you added Megapari to the list. Personally, I think it's a good decision. What raises concern for me is the fact that their representative denied any association when I asked about it in their ANN thread. That was a blatant lie and only reinforces my view that they cannot be trusted.

You are correct in pointing out that Megapari uses the BetB2B platform, which is owned by 1xBET. This connection is quite apparent, but for those who may still have doubts, they can refer to reliable casino review websites that confirm this information:

https://casinodaddy.com/casino-platforms/betb2b/
https://www.askgamblers.com/white-label-casino/betb2b

Even if it's only a white label, it doesn't make a difference because, in that scenario, Megapari is simply a front, and all the crucial operations are handled by 1xBET behind the scenes. It's basically just another 1xbit/22bet/Adkinsbet/Kawbet/Melbet/Pnxbet... case all over again.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on July 19, 2023, 09:56:00 PM
Sorry for bumping this discussion again, but I just found out that you added Megapari to the list. Personally, I think it's a good decision. What raises concern for me is the fact that their representative denied any association when I asked about it in their ANN thread. That was a blatant lie and only reinforces my view that they cannot be trusted.
I added Megapari website because I had bad experience when I was testing them for few days, and that does not have to mean they are a scam.
My all experience with them was very confusing, especially with their support and withdrawal-deposit system, but I received my coins after waiting for days.

Even if it's only a white label, it doesn't make a difference because, in that scenario, Megapari is simply a front, and all the crucial operations are handled by 1xBET behind the scenes. It's basically just another 1xbit/22bet/Adkinsbet/Kawbet/Melbet/Pnxbet... case all over again.
I would not say they have any connection with Adkinsbet and I remember that scam very well.
Maybe 1xBET is the real owner, but they can hire people who work for them and they dont know anything about connection with other casinos.
I learned that many people who work for them in support dont know what they are talking about.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Igebotz on July 19, 2023, 10:23:37 PM
Even if it's only a white label, it doesn't make a difference because, in that scenario, Megapari is simply a front, and all the crucial operations are handled by 1xBET behind the scenes. It's basically just another 1xbit/22bet/Adkinsbet/Kawbet/Melbet/Pnxbet... case all over again.

I've used Megapari once and I lost everything so I haven't had any bad experience with them yet.

1xBET, 22Bet, and Melbet are the most popular bookmakers in my region, and I've used all of them without issue. I currently have two tickets running on the 1Xbet. I've been using these stated bookmakers for a long time with no problems.

These bookies are tightly regulated in my region; they have heard offices and the most of their employees are locals. These bookmakers are advertised on the TV stations on a daily basis.

What am I missing...


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on July 27, 2023, 07:43:06 PM
What am I missing...
You are missing a lot, like a bunch of scam accusations and negative reviews for casinos you mentioned.
I dont care if you are using them fine or if they are regulated in your country of not, when I now much more people who had problems with them.
Search the forum and find connection between 1xbit, 1xbet and others, than look at their profile feedback.

Maybe they had more accounts but I found this two for 1xbit:

Manager1xBit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3329829
1xbit_official: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2835882


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Casdinyard on July 27, 2023, 10:28:04 PM
Even if it's only a white label, it doesn't make a difference because, in that scenario, Megapari is simply a front, and all the crucial operations are handled by 1xBET behind the scenes. It's basically just another 1xbit/22bet/Adkinsbet/Kawbet/Melbet/Pnxbet... case all over again.

I've used Megapari once and I lost everything so I haven't had any bad experience with them yet.

1xBET, 22Bet, and Melbet are the most popular bookmakers in my region, and I've used all of them without issue. I currently have two tickets running on the 1Xbet. I've been using these stated bookmakers for a long time with no problems.

These bookies are tightly regulated in my region; they have heard offices and the most of their employees are locals. These bookmakers are advertised on the TV stations on a daily basis.

What am I missing...
1xbet and 1xbit apparently came from the same company. With 1xbit being the illegal derivative as it doesn't operate under a license and is stuck in a deep cesspool of scam reports from people within and outside this forum. If you're not having problems with 1xbet, good for you but 9 times out of 10 people will have and had issues with 1xbit and how they operate their business. Plus there had been reports in the past of people who had withdrawal and account banning issues with 1xbet too, so I guess this is just something that they do on a regular basis to scam people off of their hard-earned money. So yeah with mixed reviews between these two sites and a massive problem that they still aren't able to solve I wouldn't trust these two with my money even if my life depended on it.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Igebotz on July 28, 2023, 11:49:10 AM
What am I missing...
You are missing a lot, like a bunch of scam accusations and negative reviews for casinos you mentioned.
I dont care if you are using them fine or if they are regulated in your country of not, when I now much more people who had problems with them.
Search the forum and find connection between 1xbit, 1xbet and others, than look at their profile feedback.

Maybe they had more accounts but I found this two for 1xbit:

I'm aware of the 1xbit scamming activities but can't say the same about 22bet and 1xbet fiat based platform.

1xbet and 1xbit apparently came from the same company. With 1xbit being the illegal derivative as it doesn't operate under a license and is stuck in a deep cesspool of scam reports from people within and outside this forum. If you're not having problems with 1xbet, good for you but 9 times out of 10 people will have and had issues with 1xbit and how they operate their business. Plus there had been reports in the past of people who had withdrawal and account banning issues with 1xbet too, so I guess this is just something that they do on a regular basis to scam people off of their hard-earned money. So yeah with mixed reviews between these two sites and a massive problem that they still aren't able to solve I wouldn't trust these two with my money even if my life depended on it.

You stated it all, most of their scam operations are exclusively on their crypto platform because it does not function under licence, as do other crypto gambling companies, while the fiat platform is licenced and has been doing well for years. I'm not a big fan of crypto gambling platforms; I prefer to play at fiat gambling sites.

Except for individuals who try to exploit their platforms, I haven't encountered any unfavourable reports concerning the 22bet and 1xbet fiat platforms.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on July 28, 2023, 10:32:38 PM
I'm aware of the 1xbit scamming activities but can't say the same about 22bet and 1xbet fiat based platform.
It does not matter what they are doing because they have the same parent russian company as 1xbit, and I dont think anyone from 22bet casino was ever registered on bitcointalk forum.
In the end I can say that this is my list I can put any casino I want in here, but you can always create your own list and support them if you want.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Casdinyard on July 28, 2023, 11:07:33 PM
I'm aware of the 1xbit scamming activities but can't say the same about 22bet and 1xbet fiat based platform.
It does not matter what they are doing because they have the same parent russian company as 1xbit, and I dont think anyone from 22bet casino was ever registered on bitcointalk forum.
In the end I can say that this is my list I can put any casino I want in here, but you can always create your own list and support them if you want.

I mean it's a no brainer for us to not deal with crypto casinos that do not have any announcement thread here cause 9 times out of 10 they're evading the peering eyes of the people so they could continue with their daily scam activities. I didn't know that 22bet was even connected with them until you pointed it out lol. Anywho, I don't think creating a new list is needed, and I know it's just you taking charge and all that but I'd be more than happy if you'd take other people's input and research upon the casinos placed here with their own sets of scam accusations if you may. If you don't want to that's fine but it would really help every newbie out here to avoid these casinos as most of them had no idea which casinos are reputable and which are not, and threads like these are really beneficial in informing them of such.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Igebotz on July 29, 2023, 03:51:00 AM
I'm aware of the 1xbit scamming activities but can't say the same about 22bet and 1xbet fiat based platform.
It does not matter what they are doing because they have the same parent russian company as 1xbit, and I dont think anyone from 22bet casino was ever registered on bitcointalk forum.
In the end I can say that this is my list I can put any casino I want in here, but you can always create your own list and support them if you want.

I don't expect 22bet and 1xbet fiat customers to come in here and write an episode about them because this is a crypto forum. Your list is based on your personal experience with the mentioned casinos, and some of the reasons you provided are simply rumours spread by others. You've never used 22bet or 1xbet, but you've already criticised them, along with the others on your list. 1xbet is one of Europe's fastest growing fiat gambling platforms, as well as a sponsor of some of Europe's most prestigious clubs. I'm not going to make my own list since it's worthless because you can't tell somebody where they should and shouldn't play.

I mean it's a no brainer for us to not deal with crypto casinos that do not have any announcement thread here cause 9 times out of 10 they're evading the peering eyes of the people so they could continue with their daily scam activities. I didn't know that 22bet was even connected with them until you pointed it out lol. Anywho, I don't think creating a new list is needed, and I know it's just you taking charge and all that but I'd be more than happy if you'd take other people's input and research upon the casinos placed here with their own sets of scam accusations if you may. If you don't want to that's fine but it would really help every newbie out here to avoid these casinos as most of them had no idea which casinos are reputable and which are not, and threads like these are really beneficial in informing them of such.

I recall OP's bad experience with FortuneJack. For about $200 or so, he was asked to submit KYC and Op was not ready to do it, so his account was restricted according to the company's terms and conditions, and OP continued campaigning against FJ, which prompted OP to create this list in an attempt to tarnish FJ's reputation. One or two poor experiences don't make something awful, and I've seen that individuals who don't follow the rules are the ones who get busted in casinos.

I wouldn't add something I haven't used on a condemned lost. Tbh.
If you're against KYC then do not use centralized platforms.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Mahdirakib on July 29, 2023, 05:20:27 PM
1xbet is one of Europe's fastest growing fiat gambling platforms, as well as a sponsor of some of Europe's most prestigious clubs.
1xbet is also the fastest growing online casino in Asian countries, they have targeted different cricket leagues to advertise their platform and made sponsorship deal with some players. But it doesn't make them a legit operator. 1xbet is selectively scamming it's user. They aren't blocking small transactions.

Every casino selectively scam their users who are connected with 1xbit/1xbet. Coinplay casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5420930.0) is a great example of that. They had appeared here with having a possible connection (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5420930.msg61341663#msg61341663) with 1xbet. Megapari fall in the same category. BTW, I disagree with OP's opinion about FortuneJack, but it is his personal list.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Igebotz on July 29, 2023, 06:35:30 PM
1xbet is one of Europe's fastest growing fiat gambling platforms, as well as a sponsor of some of Europe's most prestigious clubs.
1xbet is also the fastest growing online casino in Asian countries, they have targeted different cricket leagues to advertise their platform and made sponsorship deal with some players. But it doesn't make them a legit operator. 1xbet is selectively scamming it's user. They aren't blocking small transactions.

Every casino selectively scam their users who are connected with 1xbit/1xbet. Coinplay casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5420930.0) is a great example of that. They had appeared here with having a possible connection (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5420930.msg61341663#msg61341663) with 1xbet. Megapari fall in the same category. BTW, I disagree with OP's opinion about FortuneJack, but it is his personal list.

1xbit and 1xbet may be linked, but I doubt they are managed by the same group; if 1xbet was scamming anyone, I doubt they would have such customers all over the world as they are now one of the most popular fiat casinos, but everyone has their own perspective. Millions of Naira are won on 1xbet every day, and they have never failed to pay. I've used FJ numerous times and have never had a problem with them. As before said, what is helpful for Mr B may be poison to Mr A. Op can list whatever casino he dislikes, but that doesn't make him correct.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: bittraffic on July 29, 2023, 07:24:00 PM
1xbet is one of Europe's fastest growing fiat gambling platforms, as well as a sponsor of some of Europe's most prestigious clubs.
1xbet is also the fastest growing online casino in Asian countries, they have targeted different cricket leagues to advertise their platform and made sponsorship deal with some players. But it doesn't make them a legit operator. 1xbet is selectively scamming it's user. They aren't blocking small transactions.

Every casino selectively scam their users who are connected with 1xbit/1xbet. Coinplay casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5420930.0) is a great example of that. They had appeared here with having a possible connection (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5420930.msg61341663#msg61341663) with 1xbet. Megapari fall in the same category. BTW, I disagree with OP's opinion about FortuneJack, but it is his personal list.

It's one heck of a casino network. But they keep failing, people are figuring out their connection and they can't compete fairly with the reputable casinos. It's no wonder the ones linked to them are disappearing. They keep the main 1xbit though. They worked so much of its promotion, I can see some local influencers are paid to promote them despite the channel not being related to gambling the 1xbit are paying them to be promoted and the link of the casino are hard coded on videos.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on July 29, 2023, 09:39:15 PM
I don't expect 22bet and 1xbet fiat customers to come in here and write an episode about them because this is a crypto forum.
Both of this websites are clearly accepting Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, so I see no reason why you would keep repeating they have separate fiat customers, it is all the same.
If you like them you can use them, but please dont try to push your opinion on others here or to defend them.
 
1xbet is also the fastest growing online casino in Asian countries, they have targeted different cricket leagues to advertise their platform and made sponsorship deal with some players. But it doesn't make them a legit operator. 1xbet is selectively scamming it's user. They aren't blocking small transactions.
I gave example of cryptomillionslottoo scam that officially sponsored clubs Atalanta from Seria A and Wolves from Premier League.
They scammed many people and nothing is stopping other scam websites to sponsor other clubs and whole leagues.
I think it is easier for them to scam customers with crypto because they can look on this as grey zone.

 


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Igebotz on July 29, 2023, 10:32:34 PM
I don't expect 22bet and 1xbet fiat customers to come in here and write an episode about them because this is a crypto forum.
Both of this websites are clearly accepting Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, so I see no reason why you would keep repeating they have separate fiat customers, it is all the same.
If you like them you can use them, but please dont try to push your opinion on others here or to defend them.

Yes crypto deposit are converted to fiat and you're only allowed to withdraw in fiat unlike other crypto casino that you deposit and withdraw in crypto.

I'm just doing what you're doing: putting your personal experience into a public thread when you could just keep it to yourself. You join a crypto casino without reading the terms and conditions, fall victim, and then return to the forum to campaign against them and accuse them of fraud. Perhaps you should start a blog where just your viewpoint matters.

Stake, Sportbets, Roobet, and Duebits all have issues, but it doesn't make them scam bookies; there will always be an idiot who will break the rules and come online to complain.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Mahdirakib on July 30, 2023, 04:24:33 PM
1xbit and 1xbet may be linked, but I doubt they are managed by the same group; if 1xbet was scamming anyone, I doubt they would have such customers all over the world as they are now one of the most popular fiat casinos, but everyone has their own perspective. Millions of Naira are won on 1xbet every day, and they have never failed to pay.
As I said above, I don't support OP's opinion about FortuneJack. But apart from FortuneJack, I don't see anything questionable in the list. Although Megapari isn't a proven scam casino and all the arguments have started here since OP added them in the 'casinos to avoid' list. OP should keep Megapari in the grey list for the doubts. But there is no reason to vouch for 1xbet and similar casinos. 1xbet selectively scam the users, it isn’t limited to the violations of the terms only.

It doesn't make 1xbet a legit operator as they are paying thousands of dollars winnings to the users everyday. Because people are making a lot more deposits there. FYI: 1XBet Reportedly Bankrupt According to European Court (https://www.casino.org/news/1xbet-reportedly-bankrupt-following-case-in-front-of-the-european-court/)


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Casdinyard on July 30, 2023, 07:09:44 PM
I'm aware of the 1xbit scamming activities but can't say the same about 22bet and 1xbet fiat based platform.
It does not matter what they are doing because they have the same parent russian company as 1xbit, and I dont think anyone from 22bet casino was ever registered on bitcointalk forum.
In the end I can say that this is my list I can put any casino I want in here, but you can always create your own list and support them if you want.

I don't expect 22bet and 1xbet fiat customers to come in here and write an episode about them because this is a crypto forum. Your list is based on your personal experience with the mentioned casinos, and some of the reasons you provided are simply rumours spread by others. You've never used 22bet or 1xbet, but you've already criticised them, along with the others on your list. 1xbet is one of Europe's fastest growing fiat gambling platforms, as well as a sponsor of some of Europe's most prestigious clubs. I'm not going to make my own list since it's worthless because you can't tell somebody where they should and shouldn't play.

I mean it's a no brainer for us to not deal with crypto casinos that do not have any announcement thread here cause 9 times out of 10 they're evading the peering eyes of the people so they could continue with their daily scam activities. I didn't know that 22bet was even connected with them until you pointed it out lol. Anywho, I don't think creating a new list is needed, and I know it's just you taking charge and all that but I'd be more than happy if you'd take other people's input and research upon the casinos placed here with their own sets of scam accusations if you may. If you don't want to that's fine but it would really help every newbie out here to avoid these casinos as most of them had no idea which casinos are reputable and which are not, and threads like these are really beneficial in informing them of such.

I recall OP's bad experience with FortuneJack. For about $200 or so, he was asked to submit KYC and Op was not ready to do it, so his account was restricted according to the company's terms and conditions, and OP continued campaigning against FJ, which prompted OP to create this list in an attempt to tarnish FJ's reputation. One or two poor experiences don't make something awful, and I've seen that individuals who don't follow the rules are the ones who get busted in casinos.

I wouldn't add something I haven't used on a condemned lost. Tbh.
If you're against KYC then do not use centralized platforms.
Well if that's the case then the problem's on OP and not with the Casino then. I recalled another scenario just a couple of days ago where someone was made they couldn't cash out their affiliate money from a lesser known gambling site called Sharkoin or something. Basically reached out to the founder via telegram to ask what's up only to realize he's been breaching the contract all this time. He got the money in 2019 and as per the site's rules you should at least play with the money once every 52 weeks for your account to remain active, if within that timeframe you remained offline you won't have any access on it anymore.

This is an example of a bad experience that was not the casino's fault. I reckon that since you pointed this out people who make lists like this must be objective and smart cause people will take anything at face value, and they may tarnish the reputation of a casino over a bad experience as you said, even if that was not the casino's fault in the first place.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on July 30, 2023, 10:25:34 PM
As I said above, I don't support OP's opinion about FortuneJack. But apart from FortuneJack, I don't see anything questionable in the list.
People should know about that to avoid risks and getting in similar situation like me.
You dont have to support my opinion about them but my experience is very clear for everyone to understand because they confiscated my money and they admitted this in public.
I am reminding all of you guys that I am not listing only scam casinos in my list, but any risky casino I had bad experience with.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Team_MegaPari on August 07, 2023, 02:48:09 PM
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29. MegaPari - bad support, problems with withdrawal, some members found connection with parent company 1xBET.

Hey everyone! It would be great if we could get more specific insights on why MegaPari made the list. If you follow the ANN thread, you'll see that we've received pretty positive reviews from forum members. Plus, there was a review campaign with clear reviews of the platform. If you've personally had any issues while using the platform, we're here to help you out anytime. Also, the statement about 1xbet seems a questionable as it includes uncertain stats. MegaPari is actually an independent team that operates on its own platform and with its own team of professionals. The design might look similar to some projects, but that's pretty much where the resemblance stops. If you've been following some cases that you personally consider scams, I've explained all the scam accusations that have appeared on the forum. Usually, these users were restricted due to arbitrage gambling, multi-accounting, etc.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Igebotz on August 07, 2023, 08:53:09 PM
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29. MegaPari - bad support, problems with withdrawal, some members found connection with parent company 1xBET.

Hey everyone! It would be great if we could get more specific insights on why MegaPari made the list. If you follow the ANN thread, you'll see that we've received pretty positive reviews from forum members. Plus, there was a review campaign with clear reviews of the platform. If you've personally had any issues while using the platform, we're here to help you out anytime. Also, the statement about 1xbet seems a questionable as it includes uncertain stats. MegaPari is actually an independent team that operates on its own platform and with its own team of professionals. The design might look similar to some projects, but that's pretty much where the resemblance stops. If you've been following some cases that you personally consider scams, I've explained all the scam accusations that have appeared on the forum. Usually, these users were restricted due to arbitrage gambling, multi-accounting, etc.

You have nothing to worry about; it's simply the OP's poor experience; the topic may appear negative, but at the end of the day, it's only his opinion out of thousands of users. I've used your platform and app, and I've had nothing but positive experiences.

The 1xbit link is just one of those unverified rumours. Haven't read or see any prove yet.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on August 09, 2023, 07:47:40 PM
Hey everyone! It would be great if we could get more specific insights on why MegaPari made the list. If you follow the ANN thread, you'll see that we've received pretty positive reviews from forum members. Plus, there was a review campaign with clear reviews of the platform. If you've personally had any issues while using the platform, we're here to help you out anytime. Also, the statement about 1xbet seems a questionable as it includes uncertain stats. MegaPari is actually an independent team that operates on its own platform and with its own team of professionals. The design might look similar to some projects, but that's pretty much where the resemblance stops. If you've been following some cases that you personally consider scams, I've explained all the scam accusations that have appeared on the forum. Usually, these users were restricted due to arbitrage gambling, multi-accounting, etc.
Hi there team MegaPari and thank you checking out my topic.
I wrote most of the things I didnt like about MegaPari in my campaign review that was posted on your thread, and I was overall not very happy with my experience.
This is nothing personal and I hope you can correct some of the things I wrote about, but I never said you are a scam, just that you have a lot of connections with other casinos.
If I notice that you changed, corrected mistakes and improved after I revisit website again there is a chance I can remove Megapari for my list or move it to my grey list.
But dont worry about it to much, this is just my personal list that was released in public, some people dont agree with me.  ;)
 


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Casdinyard on August 09, 2023, 10:24:14 PM
Hey everyone! It would be great if we could get more specific insights on why MegaPari made the list. If you follow the ANN thread, you'll see that we've received pretty positive reviews from forum members. Plus, there was a review campaign with clear reviews of the platform. If you've personally had any issues while using the platform, we're here to help you out anytime. Also, the statement about 1xbet seems a questionable as it includes uncertain stats. MegaPari is actually an independent team that operates on its own platform and with its own team of professionals. The design might look similar to some projects, but that's pretty much where the resemblance stops. If you've been following some cases that you personally consider scams, I've explained all the scam accusations that have appeared on the forum. Usually, these users were restricted due to arbitrage gambling, multi-accounting, etc.
Hi there team MegaPari and thank you checking out my topic.
I wrote most of the things I didnt like about MegaPari in my campaign review that was posted on your thread, and I was overall not very happy with my experience.
This is nothing personal and I hope you can correct some of the things I wrote about, but I never said you are a scam, just that you have a lot of connections with other casinos.
If I notice that you changed, corrected mistakes and improved after I revisit website again there is a chance I can remove Megapari for my list or move it to my grey list.
But dont worry about it to much, this is just my personal list that was released in public, some people dont agree with me.  ;)
 
While I think being opinionated is fine and all that, and I know this is your list so you have full agency for this, please keep in mind that "agreed or not", it's best to be aware that your list if anything would be used by people in this forum who's not that much aware of how the whole casino thing works. So best believe that some of these people will take your word at face value and dodge these casinos outright. I wouldn't so hasty about posting MegaPari on your list of casinos to avoid if all you ever had with them is undesirable experience cause that one can be improved upon, perhaps on a slightly more tame list like "lists of casinos I've had undesirable experiences with" so people know that they are to be avoided not because of any scam related issue or whatnot, but only cause your experience with them, which I might add is an isolated case, is a little suboptimal.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Westinhome on August 10, 2023, 10:37:51 PM
While I think being opinionated is fine and all that, and I know this is your list so you have full agency for this, please keep in mind that "agreed or not", it's best to be aware that your list if anything would be used by people in this forum who's not that much aware of how the whole casino thing works. So best believe that some of these people will take your word at face value and dodge these casinos outright. I wouldn't so hasty about posting MegaPari on your list of casinos to avoid if all you ever had with them is undesirable experience cause that one can be improved upon, perhaps on a slightly more tame list like "lists of casinos I've had undesirable experiences with" so people know that they are to be avoided not because of any scam related issue or whatnot, but only cause your experience with them, which I might add is an isolated case, is a little suboptimal.

This forum will be the best option for you to find the casino which is not good for now.Because this forum contain huge number of people from various country.Most reported casino is 1xbit in this forum,So it's better to skip that casino and before using the casino kindly do some background verification of the owner profile with his social media profile.If they seems real,then check the feedback of the website by the users.Because after getting some withdrew issue,surely the gamblers will report to this forum to help others to get away from the scam.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: shasan on December 30, 2023, 10:08:31 PM
5. 1xbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0) Many Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, locking users funds
Sorry for bumping the thread. I have tried to find out the announcement thread of 1xbet and I found this thread and on here it is mentioned 1xbet but the link you have mentioned on 1xbet is not it's. The link is of 1xbit which is not the same site.


Title: Re: 🔻 n1 List of Casinos to Avoid
Post by: notblox1 on January 13, 2024, 09:34:41 PM
Sorry for bumping the thread. I have tried to find out the announcement thread of 1xbet and I found this thread and on here it is mentioned 1xbet but the link you have mentioned on 1xbet is not it's. The link is of 1xbit which is not the same site.
There are no ANN topics for them in bitcointalk forum, but 1xbet and 1xbit are owned by the same parent company, but there are more with different domains.
You will see very similar identical design and same engine for deposits and withdrawals.
Other forum members already posted proof of connection between this casino in blockchain addresses.

I want to add one more thing to my list that is not casino, but one forum member with his fake rating list.
Member Peeps Place is now on my red list, he is ignored, and nobody should trust any of his ratings.

DirectBet- No books pay to operate or post on Bitcointalk. It's not even discussed.

That's an interesting twist.

For days we are having this discussion. At no point did you deny that certain Bitcoin Sportbooks are paying you to advertise them on forums. Neither of the books denied that either.

You kept avoiding the question and downplaying the responsibility to your boss.

Now you suddenly deny it and claim that it wasn't even discussed, so we have no other choice but to reveal what happened :

Several weeks ago Peeps contacted the top Bitcoin sports betting sites and invited them to advertise on his website, http://www.peepsplace.com

The advertisement deal specifically included promoting the books in forums :

http://www.directbet.eu/download/peeps1.jpg

We rejected the offer, but Peeps kept nudging several times :

http://www.directbet.eu/download/peeps2.jpg

We still refused to take the offer, but apparently others did take it.

Shortly afterwards, Peeps tailored the ratings and criteria on this thread so that the Bitcoin sportbooks that purchased his advertisement deal will also be on top of his ratings list.

Peeps had a lot of good things to say about us, he praised us on e-mails and forums, he was also betting on our website regularly and he even signed up as an affiliate, but after we rejected to purchase his advertisement deal, Peeps suddenly started discrediting us and posting false information, and a few hours after we questioned our rating, it was reduced to C.

I invite you to read more on this matter and see for yourself :

At the beginning, when this ratings thread started, there was a list of criteria that was used to determine the rating of each sportsbook. We were given a rating of B and Anonibet were the top rated sportsbook with a rating of A.

I went over the list of criteria, one by one, and proved that in each and every category we are as good or better than Anonibet. And so I asked Peeps why we are rated lower ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg6137493#msg6137493

Just a few hours later the ratings criteria have suddenly changed !!! so that Anonibet can be the only Bitcoin Sportsbook with a rating of A and they were also granted the max possible rating of A, on top of all other books. Our rating on the other hand was reduced to C.

During the following days, there have been several reports here on Anonibet retroactively canceling bets, delaying withdrawals, limiting bet sizes and bet selections and various other negative feedback. Players were saying they will never bet there again, that they do not deserve to be the top rated, but their rating remains a firm A, on top of all other sportbooks, and Peeps ignored all comments.

As a result, we claim that this ratings guide has turned into a disguised advertising vehicle for Anonibet.

That's when we questioned the rating for the second time :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448302.msg6452025#msg6452025

It's time to put a stop to this practice, where hustlers are asking Bitcoin Sportsbooks for payments in order to get a good review and rating, or else they get discredited in forums along with a reduced rating.

Peeps is in a conflict of interests as he is getting paid by some Bitcoin Sportbooks to advertise them on his website and promote them in forums and therefore he does not have the authority or creditability to rate Bitcoin Sportbooks.




Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: Mahdirakib on January 18, 2024, 05:07:04 PM
Sorry for bumping the thread. I have tried to find out the announcement thread of 1xbet and I found this thread and on here it is mentioned 1xbet but the link you have mentioned on 1xbet is not it's. The link is of 1xbit which is not the same site.
As notblox1 has said above, there are a lot of betting sites which belong to 1xbet. 1xbet doesn't have ANN thread or an official representative in the forum, but their affiliated site has tried to advertise on the forum. 1xbet and 1xbit represents the same betting site, and some evidences were posted before about their connection (check it (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg58106716#msg58106716)).


@notblox1, Although Betnomi.com has closed their business in a shabby way. But the owner of Betnomi still planning to continue their business with a new name. You are already aware of everything related to Betnomi. Don't they deserve a place for their scammish behaviour in your list? It may help some people to avoid Betnomi related services.


Title: Re: 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid
Post by: shasan on January 19, 2024, 06:48:12 PM
some evidences were posted before about their connection (check it (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg58106716#msg58106716)).
I have used 1xbet and 22bet and both seem same wallet for Ethereum as much as I can remember and both of them locked my account while I won. They enabled my withdrawals of the initial deposits and also they deducted a portion of funds by saying their service fee.