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Almost all projects are cheating and refusing to give tokens at the end of bounty management. It's really sad that hunters work hard but they don't get tokens as a rule..

When the bounty is over, the team is making new plans so that they can easily escape by cheating.

I would like to say to all professional managers that Escrowed is very important and all of you should follow it.

Just in my opinion
Otherwise
1. Hunter will decrease
2. Team cheating step will increase

I think not every projects will accept escrow no matter how hard we try, this didn't mean they won't pay either, look at projects like CTSI and DIA, very successful projects indeed, the bounties aren't Escrowed, I believe this was possible because of the bounty manager

Don't give me that, the team decide to pay because they want to keep their reputations, the bounty manager isn't the one that forced them to pay, since the team are the one holding the tokens who can force them to pay? No one, you should be thanking the team for been sincere instead, what this post is talking about is to get control over bounties with team that goes back on their words.

Agree.  having an escrow in a bounty campaign is good because bounty participants will no longer  to worry about  not being paid or delayed payment. Because if such unfair activities continues like bounty hunters not being paid  after the end of the  campaign time will come that no one will join the bounties.

It would be better for the hunter, I also think that doing so will bring fairness to the participants. But reiterate that you are joining bounty as you have to track the flow they set in place. So from the very beginning, let's choose for ourselves the easy projects, avoiding useless jobs for scam projects.

The distribution of tokens over bounty manager is not effective and bounty manager cannot do anything about it without Escrow

Now i can talk about a success bounty is the Dego who at the beginning of the bounty encouraged a lot that will distribute tokens after 2 weeks bounty end, even when the bounty ends then now they are refusing distribution time and have set a new time limit of 100 days to complete the full token distribution episode.

you are not alone here my friend .
you are right many projects are scam in way of giving reward to bounty hunters after bounty finish .
as i know one of the project and i think you are also talking about that because the same thing i faced . on the date of distribution they anounce new policy to give reward .
Escrowed is a good for bounty managers . otherwise this side of earning is also finish like airdrops .
why i mentioned Airdrop here because only 10% airdrops are now legit .

Of course it is but how many alts projects are willing to use escrow for their bounty? Only very few among the many alts bounties that use escrow in their bounty, most of the alts tokens are not even minted during the bounty campaign so how do you expect them to use escrow, as much as I would have love that it is not going to happen in many alts bounties.

Are you saying DEGO Finance don't want to pay bounty hunters after all that successful fundraising? This is a project I have high hopes on, They gotta be kidding me, imagine a successful project still refusing to pay bounty hunters, its definitely time to start asking for escrow campaigns instead, enough of all this ungrateful judgements from project teams

The team did not want to use escrow because they had to pay money to escrow first, indeed using an escrow service can make bounty hunters get their payment, But we can see that it is very rare for bounties use escrow for now. I also hope that project team can use the trusted escrow in this forum for Bounty program.

Even if they use escrow, even if you do get your tokens, what's the guarantee that those tokens will be worth anything?
From my bounty hunting days in 2016 and 2017, i got around 200+ different tokens in my wallet. Combined all of them are worth maybe $1, So what's my guarantee?

Escrow is very important for bounty hunter payments. it also makes the concerns of reducing the initial bounty allocation less likely to disappear. To be honest, there are so many benefits to escrow for a bounty program. in addition to guaranteeing payment, it also increases participants' trust.
It's just that, there is always a reason not to use escrow for now, although I see that currently there are quite a few bounties using escrow.

I don't think it is a problem for tokens to be escrowed. Even if the project has its own bounty campaign manager, the tokens may be escrowed by some other trusted third party. Managers should do that.
Anyway, I didn't notice that this is a big problem. I think the worst thing is that many projects just turn to be a scam or fail to develop which causes their price to drop to zero violently.
But it is practically impossible to prevent this from happening. The only way to reduce the risk is to thoroughly research the project before joining the bounty campaign and promoting it.

Escrow is good because you end up getting your token but that still not justify that you get to trade your tokens when the exchange list the token unless the team does not change the smart contract address. However, many of them do not want to use Escrow because they rely solely on the money contributed by the investors. Some of them do not have a fully functional platform

So tell me how should we go about this? What is the next move? How will you gather the attention of all bounty hunters and let's make a move together? I've seen many topics like this but nothing was done about it, no single action was taken

This subject matter has been discussed many times and you will just received a lot of same old post. Even though the token is on escrow, You can't guarantee that it will have a value after the ICO or even closed to the ICO price. Bounty hunters already decrease as you notice, Only few quality bounty hunter is still on this kind of business of uncertainty in salary for a month of work.

The only solution on this issue is to limit the campaign that can launch on the forum. No newbie bounty manager and No bounty campaign that was an obvious scam is allowed.

Escrow it but it should be escrowed as well to trusted escrow here in the forum. I wouldn't mind if the bounty is managed by a trusted manager but if it's handled by no trust or haven't done any past trades here in the forum I tend to avoid them especially if the bounty or project isn't that good.

The very best thing isn't really to escrow but to paid weekly/monthly to the hunters with the tokens they worked for, it may be few or not that huge of amount but if the hunters feel they are compensated I think that will create more good ambiance on bounty space. This has been in talk already but still can't find a solution I guess the managers doesn't want to revolutionize it or most are just incompetent they don't hear these hunters what they plead.

Escrow is important however how will you convince managers to do what you want to happen? I mean not all of the manager use high ranked account  and they will not make these rules as one of thier priority , since their main priority is to earn by managing a campaign not to hold the payment. You need to also considered that other bounties use their team as manager so they can lessen  the cost they need to use for hiring a manager .

If the concern is to get token without being cheated from BM or project team it self then it is good for consideration as important part, but if the concern is the token value then hunters should do they own research.
When agree to join the bounty then if the token prices dumping hard, hunters can't complain about this situation.
Join bounty isn't same situation as we work with companies in real life we will get what has been agreed upon, different with bounty even the team and BM said the value of token will increase then it can be wrong.

Escrow is good but not necessary because not all new projects will be able to accept escrow fore different reasons, some bounties token hasn't launched yet until their IEO or ICO comes around, escrow is only hundred percent possible if the project is few months old

It's not about token value, it's about actually getting paid after bounty ends, I don't kinda understand what's going on with new project team, they always don't want to pay up after bounty ends, even projects that raised insane amount of money through IEO don't want to pay, what is going on? This gotta stop somehow

If this is the case, the best option is to create a thread in the "Scam Accusations" section here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

A detailed description of the situation and behavior of the developers will allow investors to form an opinion on the project and may effectively stopt its further development. Let's not allow scammers to get away with such behavior without consequences. In the future, others will think twice if they will have idea to cheat bounty hunters.

But of course escrow is also a very good option and I fully support it.

It is needed now to guarantee that the payment will be really given to the participants, there are already too many bounties that are not paying and just give the participants lose hope once their done in using their bounty hunters service. Some bounty manager requires escrow now due too this.

Escrow is very good, it gives more confidence to promote a bounty project but few projects that paid high rewards this year are not even Escrowed, they are managed by very good bounty managers like bubbalex, I think all we need is good bounty managers like him, the only project I promoted that was escrowed is ARCS from bounty detective and this project is already trading on exchanges before the campaign.

What I feared the most about bounties are the rules, they can be tampered with at any time and the rules always says they can adjust anything, we have no power over this people, they make the rules and we follow, that's if we ever want to get paid, the only thing that can save us are bounty managers

It is really important to secure the reward of each bounty hunters we know that bounty scam isn't new in bounty.
There are some who wouldn't pay after the bounty I think it is time for the manager and the community to ask for real payment even if it is at least just a small portion of their bounty allocation at least the bounty hunters would still receive money instead of just some worthless tokens.

indeed, escrowed funds reward for bounty hunters is the best solutions for now
so, before the campaign started the rewards funds already held in escrow, and when the campaign ended bounty hunters will get their rewards on schedule

Its is true some project is trying to make new rules after the campaign ended. Dego can be a good example of that. To prevent this type of cheating BM needs to escrow. But it will be hard for those projects to run campaigns who promote their project before even creating their token. So how they can escrow? I think they can pay in other cryptocurrency.


I think hunters will not decrease but it's increasing day by day. Peoples trying to make a living through it because many of them lost their job because of COVID-19.

This issue has been disscussed many times but yeah there is no manager especially for bounty campaign who follow it. I don't even know the problem why because the result will be same, I mean I don't see any harm that will feel by developer of the project or the bounty manager itself.

Even, this step will take bounty campaign to a good way to promote a project. Indeed, if they still use this way there will be a bounty hunter who will promote the project but we can guarantee in the future, look with signature campaign which paid in btc, the project didn't use an escrow will easily abandoned by the forum's user and it will be same with bounty program. Or maybe we can ask to admin on this forum to make a rule for this issue.

for the present time Escrowed is very important because to instill confidence in doing the job,

and to increase bounty hunters because if there is an automatic Escrowed the funds will definitely be given to the hunters with certainty.

I lost count of these project that failed to give us my fellow bounty hunters our rewards, 90% of them changed their rules and they are still doing it until now, nothing have changed, bounty hunting now is more of a gambling, you are lucky to get your coin and hit a jackpot if the token get into the market and got a good price and liquidity, we cannot consider bounty hunting as a way to make money anymore, you cannot consider a $5 worth of work for 3 months a decent way to make money online, but bounty hunters keep on working because until now they are still believing gold in the form of token.

Base on my experience in bounty, having an escrowed as the holder of the rewards will likely attract more participants but we don't just end up there. Yeah, we are able to receive the rewards as they have promise but wondering it makes you wait for a month, a year, or years to get listed.

I preferred to choose a bounty program that has already been listed to an exchanger even we can't assure you about the reward. Because we know that we can easily make trade our token once receive unlike to what I've mentioned above, that it won't make sense at all.

These things we need to consider before participating in bounty,
-Campaign manager
-Listing to exchanges
-legitimacy of the project

 

I'm sorry I have to say this, they always says the truth is bitter, I really want to support you guys on this but due to my past bounty experience escrowed bounties never paid me any reasonable rewards, I earned the best rewards from bounties that aren't Escrowed.

Escrow must not be our top priority here, escrow projects still fails, even if escrow gives you confidence this won't stop the project from turning into scam, you could even end up with worthless Escrowed tokens like what happened with kingcasino months ago

That's the best way to create a conducive atmosphere in bounty hunters with the rewards that are shared per week is a good solution because they will also be happy to see rules like this, don't just be lured with tokens, estimated at USD hundreds of thousands of dollars it's just nonsense and in the end it becomes a lower value.

And on average now a new bounty is launched, while the pre-sale has not yet been done and are forced to wait for them to succeed what if they fail? still the hunter will lose.

Anyway, avoid new projects because it makes it difficult for us to receive a good reward.

You are right! I saw most of the projects tried to cheat or impose hard rules to claim bounty token after the success of the project. Tokenpay never paid the bounty hunter, Tokoin is giving 6-8% in every months since 2019. Karate coin and many others didn't pay the bounty hunter. So i also think escrow is very important for bounty. But, As far as i know, many Bitcointalk bounty manager started using escrow.

No escrow isn't important to me since almost all the bounties I joined aren't Escrowed and i was able to earn good rewards from them so I am satisfied anyways, escrow seem nice though but I don't think all new team members of new projects will accept escrow

In fact, in this forum there must be Eswcrow because if there is no method like this then many transactions will harm many people, as an example is the bounty campaign available in this forum, when the allocation provided by the developer is not given to the bounty manager it will make the participants were disappointed, but when they implemented escrow, the payment for the campaign participants was guaranteed.

Does sound like an impasse already that there will be no negotiations anymore between parties. This is supposed to be a mutual relationship between the team and the bounty hunters who tirelessly promote their project which contributes to the success of the team. If there is nothing that will guarantee the bounty hunters to get paid, why should they be participating?

Escrow doesn't even guarantee at all because in any time the team can change the contract address of the token.

i've been seeing threads lately about this escrow thing in bounty campaigns. i've heard that many of the bounty campaigns are not paying off the participants no surprise since most of them are ended as scam although it is not required still having escrow is good option so there will be an assurance for the bounty hunters that their hard works and efforts will be rewarded.

In some escrow service, it will be given into that someone trusted who escrowed the project with signeds message so negotiations by the manager and team is not possible once done in the campaign, most of the projects who have escrowed should have a final details of when, upto how much post or reward max to receive, that sometimes the reason  owner of projects didn't want it escrowed as there is possibility that they will make the campaign long. While escrow is for the benefit of participants so it should be implemented. But bounty managers might not able to find investors who will accept the idea.

Only professional managers currently use escrow, the rest no one uses escrow and in fact there have been many threads discussing this but the evidence is that until now there are still many bounties that can be said 80% don't pay hunters

the professional managers used escrow and most of their bounties were paid with BTC or others tradable altcoins. it's hard to find some bounties that using  escrow that paid with the projects token now.

I agree with you, and if this Escrow is applied by the forum directors and the bounty managers on all the bounties and not only the weekly bounties, this will eliminate scam to a large extent, and the project team must send 50% of the project tokens to the bounty manager before starting so that the bounty hunters can be confident that they will finally get their rights, and the hunters should choose a bounty manager who has positive trusts before work.

It was being debated for a very long time already but it was not being implemented yet until now. If someone will do something to force the project owner to escrow the bounty allocations then this issue can be solve easily.

But nothing has been done as of this moment so this will only remain as a suggestion but not a requirement. Once the owner of this forum will implement such rules like all the bounty funds will be escrowed before it will be allowed to be posted in this forum then the problem can be solve easily because the project owner the same with the bounty manager have no other option but to follow the rules or else they cannot market in this forum. This is the easiest solution that I can see to this problem so far but I am not so sure why there is no action yet.

It is not going to stop because scamming is easy when you offer people free money for their work. It is even easy when you steals others money, you could literally ask people for money in return of something and not give that and keep the money and scam them, this happens constantly in the world and unfortunately it hasn't stopped, been a thing for centuries.

So, to actually not even ask for money, but just to tell people work for money, they will obviously keep working and ask for money and you could just not pay them and get away with it, it is not going to stop at anytime at all. However what people can do is focus on retribution, for example there is a project that failed to pay you? Just start a topic here, and get together with others who got scammed and just write EVERYWHERE you can find online about how you got scammed by this project. That should hurt them enough to never become successful.

Escrow is a good solution for any bounty program launched by new crypto projects.
It's one of the first thing that people should ask before joining or make any promotion.
However, it's a rare situation that funds are escrowed and this is unfortunately one of the main risk of bounty hunters.
 We have seen some scam or payment delays with these funds, but mostly from team made by newbies/unknown.

Even it's just a small percentage of assurance, since even the allocated fund are already in the hands of escrow but the project failed and never been

added to exchange, there's nothing still that escrow can do about it. A lots of project turned to scam the chance of being paid really slim and hunters

are just looking for something that will give them boost to continue following and supporting the bounty campaigns.

It's still much better than 2 years ago when maybe 1 out of 100 bounty campaigns was escrowed which shows it's going the right way. We could call it progress.

In time when people discover that escrowed campaigns don't scam they'll fight for a spot in one and the other campaigns will get the leftovers.

Of course it doesn't mean 100% will be escrowed at some point. There will always be people willing to risk it and work for an unescrowed campaign and there will be people with bad reputation who will never find a spot in one of those good campaigns.

There is no doubt this is a very good idea which will make sense if adopted by bounty managers, but the issue is, will the project team agree? Although there are bounty managers that do escrow the bounty rewards, there are still others that do not, and when asked they always say the team refused, and this same team will still refuse to pay when the time reach or even delay the distribution, and in most case the price will become worthless before they distribute.
What baffles me is that, they always use the excuse of bounty hunters dumping the price of the token, thus either delaying the distribution or coming up with ridiculous changes, but yet the price still dumps despite not distributing to hunters which also shows the team might not be trustworthy.
So considering all the wrongs that has been done to hunters, I agree with you, there is need to escrow tokens so that all parties will be happy, and if the team are afraid of price dump, stablecoins can also be used instead.

I would like to say that is better to have an escrow to every bounty and I suggest to use altcoins, tokens or even fiat to make sure that a participants will really get their reward . Because if the bouny escrow hold the coins of the project and they pay the participants what if those coins is useless because the team will not list to the exchanges sites because after the project the team mostly abandon yhe project.

There are a bunch of discussions regarding this but again as participants and you can only rely on your manager to negotiate with the team. Participants have no power to do that as the decision depends on how good the manager can handle the team.

Escrow should be mandatory for any managers but the problem was how to make the team wanna use the escrow.
The team was also changing the rules eventually too. This could be a very difficult task.

As long as I know there are actually many professional bounty managers who offer escrow to the project team but they refuse.  Of course this becomes a little confusing when as a bounty manager find an extraordinary project but the team doesn't want to escrow.  Indeed, bounty hunters are more disadvantaged than profitable and to minimize this I only follow bounty managers who have high abilities to defend bounty hunters.  For now bubbalex is my best

It would be good if they have money for escrow! Usually bounties pay in their own tokens, simple reason the cash/coins that worth goes to other more important stuff than bounties are. So bounty hunters are usually paid in coins/tokens of the projects, that basically don't worth a dime in reality, their real value will be determined when it hits exchanges, if that happens, we know how many bounties failed before getting on any exchange!
For one project to be successful bounty can play an important role if it's organized in the right way! But I doubt we will see escrowed bounties here on forum, it can be pretty expensive!

I thought this will be impossible unless the payment is Bitcoin or Ethereum because if there is an escrow and the project doesn't work or failed, I think it will be pointless and useless too.

If the reward is in btc or ETH, or any other coins that has a good trading volume where you can sell it right away after you receive it, then I guess there should be a need of escrow to ensure participants will be paid and even if the project goes scam participants will still be compensated.

However, for projects that pays their own token, I don't think it's necessary as even if you get the reward but the team is not so active or not successful in running their project, you still won't be able to sell your reward at a good value.

They run a crowdsale, investors trust them, so as bounty hunter we should also trust them, once that trust is ruin, the project will be worthless same with the reward.

I agree with your suggestion if bounty uses Escrow, because it will make bounty get its rights without hesitation if the team from the project doesn't want to pay bounty, so that bounty hunter can work calmly without fear if at the end of bounty they not get paid, because bounty hunter will definitely get paid if bounty uses escrow, therefore I agree with you if escrow is very important for bounty.

The problem is that we cannot force the project team to use escrow, even some projects choose to use a manager from their own team.
If like this, bounty hunters are indeed at a disadvantage, this forum should have made new rules regarding the bounty campaign.
Every project must use escrow if they want to be promoted on the bitcointalk forum. That way it can reduce the number of projects that
are scam and bounty hunters are guaranteed payment.

That will be great if their is a rule like that, and escrow gives credibility to the project that means they have a good intention that they are paying their workers and they give them guaranty that it will be given, let's admit it, we need guaranteed that we will get paid because it's a long work and we are part of the project's success.

Manager find it difficult to get Team that are ready to escrowed payment, even the professional legendary/Hero members aren't left out.
We can only hope to get paid since it's not really a physical Job that one can locate his employers. I tried as much to select good ones and hope it pays in the future.
To be at safer side, I only Joined with Campaigns that are Hosted by managers with good trust. (between 2 and above).

Im sure everyone is agreeing with you on this and i know its a good idea but im pretty sure most of this project wont agree to it... most of them look for stupid reasons to back out of payments especially does really successful projects then they start adding unnecessary additional rules just to rip hunters out of there rewards thinking the money they would make would be too much.... SERO is an example of such project , that project did all hunters dirty and only paid us like 3-5% of our initial rewards because they know we couldn’t do anything about it

If the team has the intention to ignore the bounty hunters, they will just replace the contract address with a new one and the tokens escrowed are going to be worthless. So much for the escrowed tokens. There had been many cases where the team updates the contract address.

The teams who didn't pay bounty hunters surely has the intention to do that. They could just be delaying so they can dump what they have before paying the hunters. They could be paying but there is the question of good faith already.

The problem is that you, if you are determined to be working to check the bounty on that project, i think you must somehow know how to check the credibility of that project.

It is still important that you need time to reexamine the projects you've worked on, are they really valuable, or are you just working on meaningless projects. We should not blame the margin issue on the bounty or not, as i don't think it matters in the process of accompanying the project.

Sorry to say but Escrow is not important, it's bounty managers duty to make sure that we all get paid, here is what a bounty manager needs to manage a clean campaign

1. Limiting participants
2. Implement proof of Authentication for all participants
3. For his/her reputation sake BM should pick very promising projects only

I really support the existence of escrow for bounties, but in fact they don't care about bounty hunters, there are many bounties at this time, I don't find a bounty using escrow. in fact, bounty hunters must be really careful with what they do, must be good at choosing a bounty project that really pays, but it is really difficult to find it.The last bounty I paid was MoneyToken

Escrow is important but not a must, some project has bad teams that only want to take advantage of bounty hunters, this is why escrow is very important, although we can't force the team and it's bounty managers that are suppose to make this a must for the project teams

If from the very beginning of bounty companies, bounty managers already have tokens on their cryptocurrency wallets, then this will attract more bounty hunters, because bounty hunters are most involved in bounty companies where bounty managers already have tokens, so I am sure that all bounty haunters want so that all bounty would be escrowed.

Not necessarily it will attract because bounty hunters are looking more on the value of the project than the security.

What would they expect if the project will fail, how would thy dispose that bounty tokens they receive in their wallet?
Yes, to put the bounty reward into escrow would help but it's not really the one that gives a value to the project or bounty.

Reputation matters a lot. I'll give you an example, Binance running their campaign to be paid in BNB, not escrow, the other one is new, with escrow.
Which one you'll choose and why?

Keeping the coins in escrow is important, as I know 2-3 cases where the bounty campaign manager ran away with all the tokens leaving the campaign participants high and dry. But it is not as important as the success of the project. If the project fails to achieve the soft-cap level, then there is no point in distributing the tokens. Because they will be worthless.

I was a Bounty Hunter before and I know exactly how this is important for the participants and so as for the manager to preserved his credibility or else he will also take some damage of reputation if he promotes some successful bounties that aren't paying to their participants. As I myself can testify about some projects that aren't paying their bounty participants after they successfully promote their project. I don't know what these people thinking by cheating those who helped them achieved their goals with their project. No one can deny these things because they are happening every year. You cannot do anything except to watch the token's price while waiting for a miracle to get your rewards from those scammers.

I don't bother myself much with bounties that are Escrowed or not, I just make sure that the bounty manager is a very active one, getting paid or not is on the bounty manager, we don't have to say anything with the project team, bounty manager is the one to face that and make sure we all get paid.

Escrow my foot, many projects from 2019 don't use escrow and they've paid large amount of rewards to bounty hunters, I'm not interested in escrow, I'm more into bounty campaigns with limited participants and good BM managing the project.

You have pointed out a very important matter. Bounty managers should escrow the bounty reward as Bounty Detective does in some campaigns. After promoting a project for a long time, the team members begins drama when it ends. If the fund is escrow, no one will have to watch this drama anymore.

yes, if there is escrow a little tired of distribution because of using a third party as a representative for reward distribution
because now personally there are so many bounties that don't pay when it's finished, there are lots of reasons for the project not to distribute the token bounty, and maybe if there is an escrow it can reduce the uncertainty when the bounty tokens are distributed, because it's certain if there is a new token project and using an escrow service is likely not a scam bounty because the project has already spent money on escrow
provided that you use a trusted escrow service

Lol bounty detective escrowed many scam projects and bounty hunters end with nothing after several months of working hard, is escrow the answer to bounty payments problem? I don't think so, the answer is a qualified and reliable bounty manager

I can made mention of ten different bounties that paid bounty hunters this year without escrowing the rewards, as if escrow have been changing every bounty problems, ARCS from bounty detective was the only escrowed bounty that make sense, it's not about escrow, let's stop fooling ourselves, it's all about ..

1. Reputable bounty managers
2. High quality bounty projects

I think this suggestion is all too often cited as an attempt to secure campaign fund for bounty hunter. But in fact there are still quite a lot of manager who haven't implemented it because in my opinion they don't have enough fund to guarantee payment via escrow.

1. The manager does not guarantee that the bounty will be successful and that the payment will be made according to the procedure. There are several manager who want to be responsible for paying bounty participant and the rest only manage bounty and receive payment. A quality manager is highly recommended as it will be easy to identify good potential project.
2. It is the responsibility of all bounty participant, taking some time to analyze project detail is the recommended way when joining the bounty. Joining blindly would be a waste of time without getting paid accordingly.

Comment on red:
- Keep in mind that many projects don't want or can't give escrowed funds/tokens. Either they don't trust the escrow, because lets face it, when a project comes from non crypto space, they hardlly know anyone and can judge who's legit or not, or they're waiting for TGE

Comment on green:
- This sadly almost never happens. Last bounty i ran (ASM) is listed on coinone exchange. And after 8 weeks, i get people telling me "please tell coinone or team to enable people from bangladesh to sell on coinone". I mean FFS, 1st thing you do is check if you can register on the exchange, and then spend 6 weeks working on the bounty.

Escrowed is only a bounty payment guarantee service but does not guarantee that you will receive payment according to ICO/IEO prices even you only receive dust tokens, take a look at this bounty thread [ENDED] DAXICO CRYPTOCURRENCY EXCHANGE | __________BOUNTY POOL w/Escrow _______   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5097539)

Your right! If every bounty campaign project is Escrowed , it could be a great help both for the hunters and bounty manager. Also it will lessen the worries of all hunters. It might also another way to lessen bounty campaign scammer and worthless project.

Without a doubt it is critical as bounty hunters need to know they are going to be paid at the end of the campaign, but unfortunately only a minority of the projects are using an escrow so we need to wonder is why is this? And this is because bounty hunters do not respect themselves either, if they stopped joining bounties that did not had an escrow then we will see a massive change in a week but if they keep joining those campaigns that have a high probability of scamming them at the end then the developers have no reason to change their behaviour at all.

Yes. Escrow payments are very much needed in bounty at this situation. First, bounty hunters will be confident working on that bounty and second thing is that their efforts will not be lost and will received rewards.

if hunters will decrease, that means crypto is no longer in demand. no matter how many projects deceive the participants, there will always be projects that are honest and will pay off the participants. although the comparison is small.
the escrow token does not guarantee that the project will be successful, you will get your token but you cannot sell it.

i think the reputation of a site or account is also important but with escrow you still provide a certain degree of security. there is no reason not to use escrow, is there? then both parties have certainty

I agree with you mate, I think it will be really nice if bounty  campaigns have an escrow, so as to bring fairness and also make sure bounty hunters get their token after the bounty campaign ends, cus there are alot of projects that do cheat bounty hunters when it comes to their bounty reward, but this looks like it's gonna be hard to implement cus only a few alt project will accept the escrow method,and not all bounty manager will state this as one of things that needs to be done, before they can handle the bounty campaign.

Escrow can really help. It will atleast give a sense of satisfaction to the bounty hunters and boost their confident that they will be paid for their work.
I also urge bounty managers to try to learn to say no to low quality, fake and suspicious projects because it will not only give you a bad name but to the market as well.

This had already been said and suggested for years now but nothing has changed.They wont tend to step down and changed up the rules.Team would always have the decision
on what should be done and how things should work. Escrow? its not a guarantee and no one will really be willing to do that. Also, to think that most coins have or doesnt have value
in the first place and if its escrowed and you had been paid up, you sure that you would still make or do able to get value with those coins you had received?
Nothing is assured thats why bounty hunting is shit. Dont make a threat about decrease of bounty hunters yet there are still dumb people whom do continue
on supporting this one.

people want to say what they want to say you can not oppose or prohibit it the same as you say no one will care about this. so you don't have to bother saying that what he said was useless or anything. the forum is created for discussion even if it is only about nonsense or less useful. ;)

The dead price is the main problem of bounty hunters because deceived hunters blame the bounty managers for the dumped prices. Actually, there is a problem on both sides but no one wants to accept the responsibility. The Escrow will save the time of bounty hunters and the team wouldn't be able to manipulate the timing of bounty distribution, IMHO. Bounty distribution has been turned to kid games by the many team members due to the greediness, they want to play it safe but they don't want to pay the commission for making it safer.

Your concerns are very genuine and even I was a part of a bounty a few months ago (even calling it "a year" won't be wrong too) where I was offered some tokens for translating their ANN page as well as website, but after completing everything and expecting my tokens to arrive in 1-2 days, I witness how these companies have scammed us in a new way every single day. But I believe that the possibility of having these tokens escrowed is next to 0 because when we talk about a "launch" then nobody will take the risk of putting their tokens in escrow if -
1. Their intention is to scam
2. Their intention isn't bad but they don't trust this escrow system
3. They want to distribute their tokens on their own

It's not really easy to find out the reason, but this is why I avoid bounties.

Being escrowed doesn’t guarantee any future return especially if the project fails and turns into a scam. Yes, they don’t want to be responsible on this one because they are protecting their own image and reputation, this is why we also need to protect ourselves as a bounty hunter and participate only on good projects. The delay is expected sometimes and if you’re on a good project, you have nothing to worry about.

Escrow definitely increases the chances that the hunters will get their tokens for their work but if the team and the project seem trustworthy I had be willing to take the risk and join their campaign even if it's not escrowed as not keeping their words will likely damage their reputation .

Most teams don't treat bounty hunters right after bounty ends or when it's about time to pay bounty hunters, they come up with different rules or even new form to fill and bounty managers won't have power of them, escrow can change all this once and for all, I hope bounty managers will adjust

Escrowed reward should be mandatory for all bounty campaigns i think, this is to avoid scam campaign of course.
But there are many ignorant hunters that don't care about it, even don't hesitate to submit KYC docs although the reward is not escrowed.
So, i guess yes, escrowed is important for bounty. Even if it is already escrowed, the reward value still not sure because we don't know what will be the price at the time of distribution, most of the bounty reward were at low price when it distributed.

I agree that the introduction of Escrow accounts for bounty campaign remuneration is a necessary action, since there have already been precedents that projects are beginning to delay payments. As for the fact that the number of bounty hunters will decrease, it's hard to believe. Some will leave and others will take their place.

Many think that escrow is the best solution to get a guarantee that the bounty campaign will be paid according to the rules. This also increases the bounty hunter's trust to fully support the project, especially since many projects have broken promises regarding rewards and distribution.
Apart from escrow, it is better if the bounty manager also considers the number of participants, if the participants are limited it is better.

Well, whatever, before joining the campaign we have to really do research carefully. A professional bounty manager will definitely provide the best solution regarding this drama-prone reward sharing system. So, it is very important to choose a trusted and experienced bounty manager.
On the other hand, we must understand the risks of becoming a bounty hunter. This will make us wiser in dealing with situations that are not as expected.

Yes, but it could also mean that the rewards could be taken away from the escrow service. So, better if the fund will be escrowed it should be to a good member of the forum that is trusted to keep the funds and will not just dissappear after receiving the funds. However, mostly of the project owner escrowed their funds to trusted escrow members and to join an escrowed project bounties is to check whether the escrow service provider is trusted or not because it will going to matter.

It is good if the team project wants to send the bounty payment on the Escrow before the bounty starts. But many project teams don't want to do this way. Only top bounty managers may choose this way to ensure the participants. I can agree that escrow is quite helpful, but it only works if the tokens are valuable. While if the payment is the shitty tokens, escrow won't be helpful.  :D

I have been a victim of this severally and the best thing to do is to have the bounty escrow, this will guarantee payment of reward at the end of the campaign.

Escrow is the best decision that can be taken by the manager to make sure the participants got their payment but it will not give guarantee if your coins will worth decent money. Just see what's happening with youc and we have learned a lot from there.
At least escrow will help the hunters deserve what they can get from their efforts.
The escrow must become a new standard in managing the campaign or bounty campaign.

Is there a common solution to this?
Or any signs of good projects before you invest time and effort in it?

Now a days it is very difficult to earn money from bounty.
Because bounty team are not paying to hunter. They cheat with us. They show the reason ETH gas fee is very high. 

Of course, that should be the case. I am sure, a good bounty manager will either find a trusted escrow service or he will be the one who will serve as an escrow (only applicable to known bounty manager). This have been done before but nowadays, I haven't seen any managers do this. More like the project always wanted to hold the funds than they will use escrow.

Escrow is always the best way to save everything from disaster but never forget that this is depend in which team you are working for.
Because if the company that is involved are being here for long time and has a good reputation,there is no need for escrow as they surely don't wanna derailed their company just for small amount of payments for the hunters.
and also people here are now knowledgeable and will not join if they felt like scamming is happening again.
Aside from those literally cheater in bounties that they are using this field to feed their entire clan from bounty rewards.

Giving the funds to the escrow doesn't mean that you will get reward on bounty hunting.
Yes there is a higher chance that you will get the token when using escrow but are you sure that it will have value in the end??

Probably there are some bounty campaigns that used an escrow but when I'm in bounty hunting, I didn't participate in any campaigns that has an escrow as they are refusing on it. Maybe there are some today that are using escrow but after all, it doesn't change the fact that it will either you gain money or you will not.

I agree with the fact that escrowed is very important to safeguard the rewards for bounty hunter, however i think the most important thing for a bounty hunter is that the ICO should be of value and when an ICO has value in it most probably they will not hold the coins and not distribute it to the bounty hunters, if the ICO hold up bounty hunters rewards which is just a small percentage compare to what they are issuing they are risking their project as the potential investors and hunters will hold back on whether to invest in this project anot.

I don't really understand what crypto demand has to do with escrow for bounty campaigns ..  ::)
Of course, more frequent scams made by developers make bounty campaigns more risky, less profitable, and this reduces the number of bounty hunters.
If escrow were widely used by bounty managers, I'm sure bounty hunters would feel a lot safer.

Escrow is important, but in my opinion there is something even more important, namely doing research on projects. Currently, there are many projects that are not clear and many are following it, and in the end Hunters are not paid. Escrow goes into important No.2 in my opinion, because the average good project will definitely pay the hunter, otherwise it will destroy the reputation of the project. In fact, even though the token has been escrowed, if the project is not good / scam, it's the same in the end we will only get trash.

What escrow can fix

1. Payments ( coins or tokens ) guaranteed

What escrow can't fix

1. The coins or tokens value can dump tremendously
2. Project exiting scam even before bounty ends.


Do we really need escrow? Well yes but it won't fix all issues that's presently plaguing bounty projects

escrow indeed is an important thing it is like a security for the safety of the bounty hunters but until now only few or only rare of the bounty campaign projects are using this I'm not quite sure the reason but for me hiring an escrow service would benefit them since many bounty hunters will join the only cons is that the number of abusers, alt account users and cheaters will increase as well.

One of the risks of not using an escrow project is, you will not get paid for it, and escrow prevents us from avoiding that. however, the use of escrow in all projects will avoid a scam risk of payment. actually, I have also been a victim of several bounties like that. but, that is the risk. Some projects that use Escrow sometimes have payments that are not that large.

Totally agree about escrow as the undisputed solution between the project and bounty hunters for fair distribution. If most of the bounty hunters think that bounty managers are the “escrow”, absolutely not. Notable bounty managers like julerz are using escrow to make sure everything’s fair. This is something that most of the projects and bounty managers are not doing which their reputation is totally affected. Just saying.

Bounty projects are not as how it works during 2017, hunters are getting more than what they have work for. But today, its really hard to find a good project. I notice that a real project (which are really paying) allocate a small amount for bounty campaigns. So its either you join to a not paying campaign or a paying campaign which only gives really small amount. I think, the development teams have learned from what happened before, bounty hunters usually causes the project to fall since most of hunters dumps their stake once the coin is set into an exchange.

Actually I've really like to join bounty campaigns that has escrowed because there is an assurance that the project will eventually paid the bounty hunters or the bounty participants on the said project, just like for example on the signature campaigns that are escrowed because the participants guaranteed that they will get the fruit of their labor. At the end of the day the project manager will be the one to decide if they will allowed escrowed on their projects or not.

If token escrow will become important and popular for bounty hunters and managers, then we would think how to solve the other problems: exit scam and price dump after listing on exchange.

The token value could be protected by, for example, distributing the tokens over an extended period of time, such as every two months during a year.

The exit scam is actually unpredictable. The only way is to thoroughly research the project and the people that staying behind it.

important but does not guarantee that the project will be successful, because what is guaranteed is the token. you can get the token but if there is no exchange to exchange it then it is of no value at all.

so that everything can go well, the forum must determine new rules before running the bounty otherwise it will only be a suggestion that will never be achieved/implemented

so now we are just waiting for the policy from the forum admin

oblige escrow so that they can't be unfair to the hunter

We all understand that participation in the bounty campaign is akin to playing Russian roulette - you can either earn good money or nothing(or almost nothing). So every bounty hunter should sensibly assess their chances of earning money.

It would be great but we should remember that it is an open market without any regulation so let all kinds of projects and campaigns come up, as a responsible person bounty hunter should choose to promote only quality projects with most favorable conditions as a result the fake, scammy campaigns will be discouraged naturally.

It wont happen since this forum isnt really that too centralized on implementing such rules yet its up to the team itself if they would implement escrow or not according
to their own jurisdiction or decision.Thing here is that people who do join up bounties should be the one to be responsible towards their actions neither they would
join up on a particular bounty or not. Knowing a project on its early phase telling if its a scam or not would be already a big work to be done.
So when someone joining up then its their responsibility on doing up their assignment.

I have this experience. The participants receieve the rewards but the promblem is that the team never had the interest to get listed to other exchanges instead of relying and waiting for their own project/exchanges to launch. So disappointing because for how many years that been waiting but still no good news to heard from them and they are not really active on the telegram, not even they give some updates in regards to the project development.

Thus, escrowed gives only the assurance that we can surely receive the rewards but not the assurance to getb listed to an exchanges.

Which will still look nonsense even the reward is escrowed but it's still have no value due the project is not listed unless it's from IEO. Sometimes it's better to join in weekly payment bounty campaigns in BTC even it's small a reward but atleast it is a guarantee payment unlike now in bounties that have too much happenings or waiting to be done. We need to set our post properly since the campaigns were limited if we want to be accepted.

of course escrow can't fix the value of tokens or coins and if the project going to scam even before bounty end mate
because the value of tokens is created by the markets, and scam or not its depends on the project team,,
but escrow will help bounty hunter to received their rewards as promissed ;)

Yes escrow is getting more and more important due to growing no payment conplains after campaign ends.
There are more solutions to all these problems especially i want to emphasize on weekly payments like some campaigns are already following. It gives peace of mind to hunters while the token not being listed anywhere gives freedom to dev to distribute them without any dumping challenge.

Agree, but it's useless there is escrow then if the token is never listed in the market and then become shitcoin.
I hope in future all bounty payment is Bitcoin or any Stablecoins.

i thing escrow will also filtered which coin or token will accepted .we know many fake project or shit project that trying get attention from us, and maybe using escrow in bounty campaign will be their trick . usually escrow accept major cryptocurrency like bitcoin , ethereum or many other. but for unknown token its very rare to happen.

One of the campaign that I've participated that generate goodwill to the community is Geomadao, all participants got their coins at the right time, the coin is not yet in the market and still on the development stage but the bounty hunters are satisfied they get their token and now following development of the project, this should be the case on many project.

But still chance the coin will not listed to the market so the coins is still unvaluable because you cannot trade it unless it's tradable to the crypto market. There is a lot of bounty hunters are getting paid or get their coins from the campaign they participated but until now they waiting for nothing and hoping for them to list the coin because the team leave and don't have plan to list the coin.

Escrow is very important for bounty just like the op have rightly said, and this is because many projects Today can't be trusted anymore, they hire people to promote their brand and after the whole work have been done, payment becomes an issue for them, though not all projects are like this cus I know there are some that are well trusted, but among the new ones, how do we trust them.

Yes this is good advice but the thing is, does the team behind the project has a fund to pay the escrow fee? Some of them chooses to launch Bounty instead of bitcoin campaign because they are limiting their expenses and in order for them to promote without using fiat or any other coin except for their own token. We've been in this industry for so long, we need to learn how to spot a fake ones and good ones that are good for long term uses as well.

too bad that instead of making a new plan on how to improve thier project after a bounty , they will instead make a plan on how they can convince the workers that they cant pay . there were pro managers in this forum that works/manage on bounties  aside from sig camps . sometimes they convince the owner of the project to get an escrow or if not they can also hold the funds them selves but on most cases this dont work and they end up running the campaign without escrows but hunters are still going to join it especially if they see it was manage by a pro manager .

well. i think it is not that much important if the bounty does not offer bitcoin or some stable coin payments. If the team is scammer or cheater, anyway the tokens they distribute is going to be a crap anyway.

I believe if a project is high quality the team will avoid any unnecessary FUD or bad stains to affect their project, they will surely fulfill their promise to bounty hunters, I'm much into good projects than escrow, bad projects can be escrowed too and you will end up with bad tokens

I don't know why you don't support idea to escrow bounty tokens?
Of course, the actions of developers are the most important, but if escrow has tokens that were calculated for distribution from the beginning, it also protects the participants of the bounty campaign against making "safe changes" by developers. And even the best developers at the end of campaign, before distribution, can make such changes because they think it is better. Even without considering the opinion of bounty hunters.
In my opinion, this is enough to support such an idea.

Even if you do somehow manage to get the world to agree that every bounty should escrow their tokens to the BM, scammy projects will just use that.
They will for sure escrow the tokens, but once they exit, the tokens are worthless, and once again, what do you get? Some shitty token you can't even use as a toilet paper

Escrow is very important if the bounty manager is a newbie or a less familiar person, Usually high trusted members wouldn't need that because they wouldn't put their account in danger for a simple bounty.

Even if they do not escrow bounty hunters will still list themselves to be part of the project, they do not check the escrow even if it favorable to bounty hunters, they check if the project has potential in the market, if the project has potential or the developers are reputable, they don't care about the escrow thing, only questionable projects need escrow.

Okay, and here we agree. If the project is a scam from the beginning, participants of the bounty campaign will receive a token worth nothing.
However, we cannot fail to say that it protects against other actions that are unfavorable to the participants of bounty campaigns. I am thinking of changes in the rules or even the complete non-payment of tokens due to the fact that developers are not satisfied with the effects of the campaign.

With escrow, you can get your token at the right time, but that's not a guaranty that your efforts and time is worth it because everything lies in how the token performs in the market, you can have tokens in your wallet by hundreds of thousands but they are all worthless if you are not checking the project and you only got there because it was escrowed.

I`ve already seen examples of pre-funded bounty cmapaigns and they are obviously more successful, than common, because hunters know that they will receive reward, so they work better. I`m talking about Bounty0x. It`s a good platform where since not so far have appeared rule for projects who want to arrange bounty on the blatform. It makes projects pre-pay bounty reward allocation to platform admins to avoid any changes in bounties and increase bounty trust

I really support escrow for bounties, but in fact they don't care about bounty hunters, a lot of bounties nowadays, I can't find a bounty using escrow. In fact, bounty hunters must be really careful with what they do, they must be good at choosing the bounty project that really pays. especially pay attention to the manager who manages the project you want to follow.

Escrow isn't very important

1. Bounty managers should be what matters to you most
2. Reputable bounty managers brings high quality projects
3. Escrow doesn't guarantee better price per token
4. Scam projects can be escrowed too

This method has actually been applied several years ago, because in the past there was an ICO trend, so the use of Escrow was removed and it is no longer used for bounties, if the Escrow solution is turned on again, it doesn't matter if it avoids bounty project fraud, but if not there is a change so looking for a better solution besides using Escrow, actually I really agree with the bounty campaign using Escrow because it will reduce the height of fraudulent projects that are very clever at hiding their cunning ...

Bounty managers have served more as escrow before and we still have some credible managers that can be escrow e.g yahoo62278 but the betrayal of trust my some managers had reduced the trust from teams and bounty hunters. They increase the numbers of participants after bounty and hoard a good some of the reward, several scam acquisitions. Somehow the news get to teams when bounty hunters detect and complain, these are some of the consequences.

And with everything you wrote, I fully agree.
But escrow protects you from something else that also happens sometimes. Even if the project is legit and the dev team is very professional, it may happen that they are not satisfied with the effects of the campaign and decide to reduce the bounty pool. Most bounty campaigns have in rules that owner or manager can change it at any time. The effect of the campaign does not depend directly on the participants. This is what escrow can protect against.

Indeed, escrow should be used for all bounty campaigns, So the project team does not harm bounty hunters by delaying payments or
not even paying tokens to bounty hunters. The problem is not the bounty managers don't want to use escrow, sometimes the projects
team rejects it. So it's very rare that I find a bounty campaign that uses Escrow, even though escrow is very important to ensure bounty
hunters get paid.

Many high quality projects are creating a similar situation. Also this year i saw some of the best projects that have changed many times while distributing tokens to hunters. The amount of bounty tokens was very low so there are also projects trying to cheat so if you don't support escrowed then support token distribution weekly.

I concur with you, and if this Escrow is applied by the discussion directors and the bounty directors on all the bounties and not just the week by week bounties, this will dispose of scam to a huge degree, and the project group must send half of the project tokens to the bounty administrator prior to beginning so the bounty hunters can be sure that they will at long last get their privileges, and the hunters ought to pick a bounty supervisor who has positive trusts before work.

the escrow technique will cause bounty to get its privileges decisively if the group from the project would not like to pay bounty, so bounty tracker can work serenely unafraid if toward the finish of bounty they not get paid, in light of the fact that bounty tracker will get paid if bounty utilizes escrow, in this manner I concur with you if escrow is significant for bounty
However, using escrows also pose a different kind of problem, this can be a problem of trust and transparency between all parties involved. With escrows, there is always a chance of fallout between the escrow and project team which may lead to one or both parties losing the public trust.

using escrow doesn't mean that the project won't fail or not become a scam project. i ever joined the bounty that paid me with their token and using escrow. but from the day after the  distribution until now, they don't hit any single market. it almost a year. they listed their token in DEX but doesn't have any liquidity. so escrow doesn't guarantee you with a good and legit bounties.

of course it is very important, because with an escrow bounty it will feel safer,
and there are no acts of fraud, so far I have seen Bounty Detective using an escrow from their own team,
but remember you have to find a good bounty and a good bounty manager too.

I think Escrow is very important, but we look at the state of the token situation, for example it is already on the market and the price will not fully accommodate the bounty hunters who will collect the tokens, so in essence Escrow is mandatory and the distribution of bounty hunters is around one to two months in my opinion it is also mandatory to keep increasing the value of the tokens on the market

Projects keep doing this because they know they can get away with it, there are so many people doing bounties that they know that even if a significant number of bounty hunters refused to participate on their campaigns they will still have enough people to participate and treat them in whatever way that they want, when I think about it I cannot help but feel a little bit of pity for those people as they are willing to work on the worst possible conditions just to receive some tokens that at the end may not be worth anything at all.

In most cases, I don't feel sorry for those who join a campaign that looks like a scam at first glance. Unfortunately, sometimes I get the feeling that half or even most of the bounty hunters are farmers and bots. They apply to campaigns when in threads experienced users clearly warn that it is a scam. And then I absolutely do not feel sorry, because I think most of them are scammers. So let the scammers cheat on the scammers - this is a draw. If someone does not want to spend a few minutes to read the rules and half an hour to check the project, I think it is laziness and if he loses his time because of it, I do not feel sorry for him either. And in such cases, escrow will not help anyway.

Having an escrow for bounty funds builds trust and confidence. Bounty hunters can work securely with funds escrowed since some projects cheat bounty hunters after working for a long time promoting a project. But having an escrow is worthless if the reward is worthless too.

One benefit of escrow is that managers and bounty hunters alike will get paid. So it will minimize the cheating committed by projects
that intend to run after getting investor funds, or after their project is successful.
It can even avoid unilateral decisions if there is a sudden reduction in bounty funding by the project.
In addition, payments for participants and managers can be on time in accordance with the mutually agreed rules.

Now almost all bounties cheat the humble bounty hunters after bounty ended except few ones. This scenario happens only for the inexistence of Escrowed. If a project wants to run bounty, should firstly paid the rewards to the trusted Escrowed in this forum. Then Escrowed will declare that their payments is safe to the wallets and now team can run bounty. After bounty ended, payments can be sent from Escrowed wallet. This is the fine way to stop cheating.

Yes escrow is the only way to get rid of cheating project team, they always find it hard to pay once bounty campaign is over, I like this idea but this won't be effective as it's just a thought, only bounty manager has the power to start forcing escrow on new project on his forum, I do hope this works

I'm sure you guys are aware that there are some bounty campaigns that the project team are managing themselves, how about those projects? How can they use escrow since nothing is standing in between the project and bounty hunters? This won't work

This is where escrow should be even more required! After all, escrow is about the fact that an independent third party should consider a disputed situation - if such a situation occure.
As for who the escrow could be, not only the bounty manager can be. There are quite a few people in this forum who have a lot of trust from the community. You can view a list of them here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439910.0

Bounty has a lot of problems to deal with. There are actually very few bounty with escrow, and the right to join is yours. I think the most important thing is the price of the token after being listed on an exchange, rather than the issue of escrow.

When the manager uses escrow in managing bounty projects, there will be many participants taking part in the project.
Because bounty participants feel safe and their work will not be wasted because they do not get rewarded.
It is also rare for managers to use escrow in bounty projects. But if the project is not a fake project, it doesn’t matter.
The problem is when the project done by the manager is a fake project.

Yes, and sometimes a manager can also be an escrow of a campaign through a reputation of trust that has greatly increased in this forum, but for projects that are directly managed by the team itself it is actually better, it's just that they don't have enough confidence in this matter. although basically they don't intend to deceive a lot of people.

Not all projects team can handle a bounty campaign themselves, they will face many challenges and it won't be a smooth experience for bounty hunters, some don't even know what POA post is, i suggest using a bounty manager instead or else they will face too many problems running the campaign themselves.

Well, you've probably had little to do with bounty campaigns. Signature campaign paid in BTC are escrowed almost always. Besides, they are paid every week, which reduces the risk, because in case of problems, you only lose a week spent on promotion. In the case of a bounty campaign, they can last up to several months. If the project fails or turn to be a scam - we are unlucky, or we make researched the project badly. Escrow is to prevent bounty hunters, for example, from the fact that the developer changes his mind and reduces the bounty pool before they distribute rewards.

Most important thing in bounty campaign is Escrowed, although have more than 3% allocation coin from supply to bounty campaign participants without have Escrowed we can't trust and joined this campaign, but only for trusted and experience manager active right now and giving with reward during their campaign running is fine, but if you find with new campaign manager without have Escrowed better left and never joining their campaign project, at the least when campaign ended you will never get anymore with your coin reward. Just checking all campaign you joined have Escrowed or not before participating at their campaign.   
   

escrow cannot guarantee that the project will be successful and have a good price in the market,
have you ever participated in a bounty using escrowed from Tokpie ?, TLS and YOUC are projects that I know, they pay, but the price drops by -90%,
of course is a big problem for bounty participants, so escrow is good for bounties but there is no guarantee that the price can be good

But most projects that promise large bounty pools do not have escrow. So we hunters will still join those bounty. Think of it as a risky investment, and you invest your time in it.

Bounties have many problems that can't be solved with escrow only, this can only make you get reward as promised but some times the project can still turn scam, once the ICO is over the team will vanish and the escrowed tokens will be worthless.

I will choose reputable bounty managers over escrow because I have positive results from them than escrow bounty campaigns on this forum, reputable bounty managers will fight for their bounty hunters, they always make sure bounty hunters get paid, that's because they value their reputations.

In fact, the number of good bounties is very low so not everyone wants to use escrow and lots of projects are coming up who are managing the bounty themselves. The number of professional managers has dropped dramatically as there were many professional managers in 2017.

Before I got out of bounty hunting there's still a lot of bounty hunters and they are not decreasing even if there's no escrow on the project they are working with, team cheating is always here it never reduced, scam projects will always cheat investors, and bounty hunters instead of escrow pick the right project with good and you will never ask for escrow.

and how exactly you determine a legit project though there are some cases of big projects that's said to have big credibility but turns out they didn't even want to hand out bounty or instead distributing a useless shitcoin version of their real coin instead. I think escrow is really important and anything if possible should use escrow just to guarantee that both side aren't taking losses.

Many new bounties of today haven't launch their ICO or tokens yet, I wonder how this type of projects will do escrow, I believe that escrow strategy will only be possible on projects that are listed on exchanges, I really don't care much about escrow but quality of the project and smartness of the team

Escrow will work I believe, atleast there won't be fear of losing payment after bounty ends like many project did to bounty hunters, escrow guarantee payment, it gives honor to participants too, many project team don't today don't keep their promises to their promoters after bounty ends, this will erase the feeling of been used.

Escrow is indeed important for the safety of bounty participants, but I rarely find cases of a project team not paying their campaign bounty, because if they do this it will be very detrimental to themselves, their social media will be attacked by their bounty participants and this can be very bad for the reputation of their project.
In my opinion, the most important thing is what we get from our work as bounty participants can be valuable, In that sense I hope that the bounty manager must also choose the projects they will promote.

I've rarely participate in escrow bounties on this forum because they aren't my taste, some joined and the end result wasn't so satisfying, to me it's about the quality of a project not getting the tokens that may be useless, high quality project team will always want to keep their reputations, so they will pay, delays may take place but in the end payment will be sent out.

The fact is Escrow only guarantee your rewards but the tokens can still be worthless, you still need to choose wisely before promoting any project, don't jump in just because it's escrowed, for me I will sti choose bounties from top bounty managers like bubbalex over escrowed bounties, it's not 100% important for me

Of course, escrow is important but more important is to find out if the project is legit and it would worth it to waste time on it? and if yes make sure that bounty really belongs to that project or somebody wanted to make a fake thread about it?
and if you found out all of them then you need to see the pool price, some of the pools are too small to join, and it is very important that the number of participants is limited, I really don't like it when they use stake instead of real numbers and tokens from the beginning, doing bounty could be worth it , if you are doing it in the right way.

That's right, escrow is only a helper for high-quality project payments or special paid projects like Bitcoin which are often in sub-forum services, other than that I don't think there should be an escrow to start a new project.

The escrow data appears not much and they are very quality projects, I see when the project they want to pay bounty with stable coin or ETH, BTC, ... I believe they are. get great support from investment funds. But such projects in this market give me more peace of mind when participating, but sometimes I want to learn about the project carefully and I like to receive the project's tokens and accompany their development. In the future, this will be great when there are interactions between the parties.

It's true that escrow can ensure bounty hunters get paid, so it is very important that bounty managers require the projects team
to agree to use escrow. If they don't use escrow, there are a lot of cheating that the project team does against bounty hunters,
because project teams can change the regulations regarding payment problems when the promotion projects will end. For example
tokens will be distributed after the hard cap is reached, which is detrimental to the bounty hunters.

Yes that's important for the safety of the participants but still it's still not safe for some shit or useless tokens even if they use an escrow if the coins has no value or use at all then it's no different from not using an escrow. If the project is really serious on paying the participants it doesn't matter if they will use escrow or not.

Agree, if the team is committed to the campaign created, hunters should be paid even without escrow. Escrow may be safe for payment but I think it's meaningless if the project itself is a scam project and the token goes useless

I would be cautious. I have no doubt that we have a number of very trusted bounty managers, but my thinking is that escrow is necessary. The issue here is that you can trust the bounty manager, but not the project team. What will the campaign manager do, in case the project team refuses to transfer the tokens? Obviously he is not going to compensate everyone out of his pocket.

That's pretty good advice for any Bounty manager to use escrow when receiving an offer to manage a bounty from a company.  If this happens, of course the fate of the Bounty participant will be profitable because once the Bounty is finished the Bounty participant will get a token for their hard work.

Escrow is very necessary but all of that does not guarantee that all bounty hunters will get their tokens, just look at some of their projects that don't pay and tend not to want to pay bounty hunters. The most important thing for bounty managers is finding solutions for payments to bounty hunters, most importantly top coins like the usdt and ethereum, binance coin is a coin that is highly prioritized for bounty hunters.

Escrow is a very good thing, it ensures that the tokens are distributed on time and in the originally specified amount.  Without an escrow, the team can reduce the amount of the bounty campaign reward or issue it after a few months.

Those projects you mentioned were managed by Bubbalex, a manager of high repute. I promoted the first one (Cartesi) but didn't enrol in DIA. Bubbalex has the love of hunters and respect from the bounty community  I guess that's why hunters rush to be in his bounties even when they know the rewards are not escrowed. However, what I just pointed out here isn't to belittle the need to escrow rewards by bounty managers. In fact, escrowing rewards should be seen as a necessary addition to the contract managers make with project owners. Having rewards escrowed will even save managers the risk of being called scammers or of their accounts getting tagged by DT members if project teams scam hunters.

This is a really big problem. We must all come together for this, So that all the companies that do this to us can learn a lesson. If a company does that, So we should report their social media networks. Because we are the ones who are moving the project forward.
Escrow is really good option. All bounty managers need to think about it.

Unfortunately, it does not guarantee that the project team will not decide to change other conditions, for example, they will decide to extend the bounty without increasing the reward, or add more campaigns to blur the shared pool.

I have decided within me that I will never join a bounty that isn't escrowed because if some certain things. I have witnessed many scams from project owners and many other doesn't pay after doing months bounty for them and some would pay little out of thousands. Even some would pay when project has turned rubbish. I prefer escrowed bounty to others.

Its a wise decision because you can prevent joining in shit projects. Having an escrow is an assurance of getting paid and all your efforts will be worth it. Thats why I refrain from joining in bounty for now and chose a btc paying campaign. Scam projects are still existing making it hard to find a good bounty that will likely to give profit.

yes you are absolutely right

It is proven that at this time the spreadsheet was not filled with members, unlike 2017 which could reach 30k participants

yes this will also increase the scammers because they consider Hunter as a free promotion and maybe I would do that if I had a project

You have a point but if they are using bots then most likely they do not care either way as bounty hunters using that kind of technology most likely are not worried if a coin turns out to be a scam since they did not wasted their time at all since the bot was doing their job for them, this means that this is going to be very difficult to solve, after all scam projects can get all the promotion from those bounty hunters and then refuse to pay and those bounty hunters will not even blink as they can participate in hundreds of those campaigns with no downside to them.

When there will be so many scam campaigns where bounty hunters will not be paid for their  work, they will think that they are wasting there time here, they will be discouraged so numbers of hunters will reduce and campaigns will find it hard to attract hunters, so definitely market needs solutions and escrow could be the one of them.

but at least we can get tokens from our work as long as we support the project, instead of working but not getting anything, and it could be that our tokens are not valuable now but in the future it can provide a surprise. One point that I agree with your saying, do not only see from Escrow but also see the potential of the project

Boumty hunters who participated in an Escrowed bounty campaigns are rest assured of prompt payment at the end of their work irrespective of whether the tokens or project will be successful in a long run.
I am also a victim of non payment of a bounty campaign after several weeks of work unfortunately the bounty manager disappeared without showing up in the forum all effort in contacting him and the project team via telegram proved abortive.
However its quite unfortunate that many bounty hunters don't bother about Escrowed campaigns any longer especially the newbies they join as many campaigns as possible to earn many paying and non paying projects.

The result of our reward depends on the price of coin. We do agree to take the risk on it and that's our responsibility when sometimes it didn't meet our expectation but in this case the altcoin managers could take the bitcoin campaign as an example about how good the campaign when it was using escrow or the manager itself became an escrow.
I see some campaigns have been doing this but it's only a few campaigns.
The only thing that makes it quite difficult to happen is how to deal with the team to use escrow.

I'm also agree to have escrow in bounty for somehow hunters have their chance to gain what they worked for. And for whatever the worth of their token it's still good that your efforts will surely be rewarded. However still the best thing to do is choose bounty project that have a good plan for their project before we join.

Abundance Hunter who gets the advantages however the administrator and the group can likewise feel a good contact with the escrow. yet, sadly just a little extent of abundance supervisors actualize it. Without a doubt, not many among the numerous alts bounties that utilization escrow in their abundance, the majority of the alts tokens are not stamped during the abundance battle so how would you anticipate that them should utilize escrow.

Not all bounties will have escrow so it's your choice to join them or not, I wouldn't want to miss out on a very good bounty campaign just because it isn't Escrowed, I don't care much about Escrowed bounties because I don't like many of them, it's about the quality of a bounty project for me

Two things have happened in following the bounty campaign, the first is a mediocre project but they have a trusted escrow, and the second is a project with high quality but they don't have an escrow in it so the team can run away when the project has begun to end, so in this case which one will you choose?

If all bounty projects start using escrow it will be a big headache solved, there will be more confidence to join and promote a bounty project with no worries about payment but not all new bounties will accept escrow, we need to keep using our research ability to choose good projects only, goodluck

important but everyone forgets it. escrow should be used as a way to prevent fraud by the project team against bounty participants. currently there are many projects that do not pay bounty participants for various reasons and there is nothing the participant or bounty manager can do. if there was escrow there would not be a project team like this.

It's a nice idea. But using the manager as the escrow is also risky. Some managers don't distribute all the token that belong to the bounty hunters or don't distribute at all. Escrowing it to the forum moderator(s) to me is more palatable.

This is really wrong. In reality, they don't even care with the escrowed pool rewards at all. They care with only themselves, claiming all the bounties if possible with their shitty multi accounts because of the social media campaigns and stuff. It doesn't matter at all for the bounty hunters.

Injective protocol did the same thing to bounty hunters. Team tried to say that Ethereum transaction cost is high. That's why they changed the rules. Ultimately, they send tokens in the same wallet as they distributed in the first two weeks. Maybe teams are waiting and changing rules several times until they confirmed that so many bounty hunters didn't follow the new rules.

I always consider a few points before jumping into any bounty programs that are paying in tokens. If all the conditions are met then I put myself into it else I just don't join them.

-Would I invest in the project: I always consider reading the project and if I would have invested in the project then it means I should join it otherwise i am just working for worthless tokens.

-Is the bounty giving away too many coins: If the bounty program is spending too many coins most of the time big dumps will happen when it lists on exchange and becomes worthless by the time dumps stop.

So, these are some points I consider before putting in the hard work and earning their tokens.

It is unfortunate, but I also had to lose!

But thanks to those experiences, today I am better ...

I work for the best bounty managers ...

Nowadays many projects cannot be trusted anymore, they hire people to promote their project and after all the work is done, payment becomes a problem for them, although not all projects are like this but I totally agree if the project escrow with the project manager. so that bounty hunters are guaranteed to get their project tokens.

It's becoming very hard for new projects to pay bounty hunters after bounty ends, I don't blame bounty hunters requesting for escrow payment, the moment a bounty period is over they will change completely to bounty hunters, escrow should fix this

Tracker who gets the advantages yet the director and the group can likewise feel a good contact with the escrow. I mean not the entirety of the administrator utilize high positioned record and they won't make these principles as one of their need , since their primary need is to procure by dealing with a mission not to hold the installment.

For bounty hunters, the requirement of margin is difficult because projects are unlikely to achieve a soft cap in ICO mobilization. Before going into any bounty project we need to determine the risks of the bounty project. What I believe most is the credibility of the bounty project runners because most of them make sure those involved in the bounty project get their payoffs in the best way and have spreadsheets quickly.

That could be fixed with escrow but wouldn't guarantee that the project will deliver a good project and even if they distributed the tokens there's a chance that it will be worthless if their only goal was to allocate funds and run away.

it's their duty to pay the hunters because the hunters are already working for them...
I agree with Escrow on the project that will hold the bounty program. although most likely their token becomes shit token, at least the hunter has held their token and it can satisfy the hunters' hearts IMO.

The project that does the escrow is certainly very good and usually many bounty hunters are quick to join in on it. at least with Escrow they are no longer afraid of payment, we often refer to escrow as a guarantee in a transaction including for the payment of a token in a bounty project. I agree that new managers are currently starting to implement this system before managing a bounty project.

All the Signature campaign which paying bitcoin as a weekly payment will be provided with escrow.Then only people  will participated in such campaign. If the same implemented on bounty, the bounty hunters will feel safe.

Don't some bounty managers do that? If this is a management team, then they take tokens for hunters and distribute the reward after completion.

Bitcoin paying signature and bounty campaign is totally different yet we know on how its been handled and in terms of payment.Bitcoin based arent needing some escrows specially if its
handled by a reputable manager unless if its a new one then people would have doubts on joining the campaign yet guarantees on being paid is lit.
For bounty where tokens is being paid for the task given then its understandable that the management will have the full control.
The issue here is that you wont even know if those tokens would be worth something.

That's will strict rules for bounty teams those trying to scam bounty hunters. Bounty rewards are now much lower even though scam promoters are here for free promotion. "Injective protocol" is one of them. My last campaign was injective protocol, maybe 4 times they changed the distribution rules.

Nowadays escrowed is very important for bounty. Sharing my today's experience , I worked for a bounty for 3 months & after finished work now they are refusing  to pay us.
If this campaigns tokens were escrowed then we surely get our payments in time.

I have to agree with that because there is so much crowd in the bounty market that people are ready to work for pennies and bounty campaigns are taking advantage of this.

The truth although is that the quality posters and promoters only join escrowed contests and campaigns so a campaign that doesn't emphasizes on escrow will usually meet with multi accounting and problems like that and hiring a good campaign manager is equally important because as a project owner you cannot check everything yourself and we have so many experienced and amazing managers here at forum.

yes I agree, but question is, will all the project teams agree with this? I don't think so because if you use the escrow system, the team will prefer to manage the campaign themselves using their own account, remember that the forum still allows cooper member accounts to create threads and manage campaigns

Honestly escrowed funds is very vital for bounties, infact it's one of the things I look out for when considering a campaign. I give kodus to Bountydetective and some other great managers who escrow most of the Bounty tokens, this ensures hunters are not cheated at the end or do tasks in vain. For instance, if PAYACCEPT Bounty tokens were escrowed, hunters won't be denied of their tokens the way it happened, just to mention.

I personally agree with the Escrowed system Of course, it will avoid cheating  from project owner when the bounty is complete but the reality until recently only a few manager have implemented this rule but not in all the bounties they manage maybe this will come true when when regulations
Escrowed is written in this forum

Your formula was good i know bountydetective used some numbers escrowed in the bounty but they have followed many dead projects at this time. There is still hope for token distribution in payaccept bounty because the CEO made such an announcement and they are working to update the spreadsheet. However, we can get the token in time but it will not be possible go to the moon very soon.

Bountydetective, in my opinion, are very strange guys, I tried to take part in the bounty and everything seems to be fine, but after a couple of days they deleted my post "PROOF OF REGISTRATION" and, accordingly, when checking the table, they indicated the link was not valid. I tried to write to them, but no one answers, everyone is silent.

I think most bounties especially that that pay in BTC or ETH and are managed by well known bounty managers are already escrowing their payments for every coming weeks by the bountymanager.
Otherswise those well known and respected bounty managers probably wouldn't even agree to manage that bounty, because they also have a reputation to lose.
Overall i think that the situation regarding bounties in this forum at the moment is way better than in 2018 for example.

Yes, it assures the payment for bounty hunters. If there is a decision that the team has to stop the bounty suddenly, there's a payment that awaits for the bounty hunters.
It changes the trust level of the bounty hunters with a project that they doubt.

Yes, at least bounty hunters do not need to worry about receiving their bounty at the end of the campaign. But the only thing we need to worry is if it will have a value or it will remain as a useless token in our wallet. At the end of the day, it does not give assurance that the bounty will have a value. I have participated in bounty campaign before where the bounty is being escrowed. Even after the bm assured that we will received it, we still not able to received ourexpected money because the token has no value.

I'm very upset about Swapzilla projects. I supported this project because this project legit to me still legit to me but my website balance is zero. Without any information, they took all the Swapzilla tokens from my website account. Even the bounty telegram group didn't make any announcements. Escrow is the best protection for bounty hunters if bounty managers are legitimate.

This is always be the case,

They find so many reasons to delay the distribution of the bounty until they finally be able to escape from paying the bounty hunters. I have experieced a lot with this kind of exit scam, they pretended to keep on updating on their telegram channel and keep on updating about the exchange until they disappear after a few days or weeks.

The best thing to do is to give the bounty payment to the managers in this forum who have more positive trusts. They have the reputation that hunters want for some assurance. But every project developers are greed, only few projects are concerned with their participants. Therefore, it is really nulled to happen. Escrowing bounty payments is really important. It ease the strange feeling of the participants to join to the campaign. Bounty seems to be dead for me. Only few bounties are deserving to be praised because most of them are just scam projects. I only trust if it handles by my current bounty manager only (Hhampuz).

This is sure sign of scammers, they do not want to give bounty hunter's rewards because they think that bounty hunters will dump the token and they will become their competitor when they dump their own token, that is protecting their own interest, they will just release it after they run away, they made profit from investors and from dumping as well.

I agree it's a very bad thing that we don't get any tokens even if we work in the case of bounty campaigns they scam because they pump tokens into the market within their own group in which case they cannot rise very high and the value of the tokens decreases a lot. They also change the wallet by locking the spreadsheet when the projects are over so that no one can understand where the tokens are going they plan and run the bounty before the bounty starts they can not achieve too much success.

This is the option of the BM you doing that is who, i think BM is good they always give easy defined rules when starting to make bonus, margin is not always important for money that if we work on meaningless projects, so i think this is really unnecessary but more importantly, choose for yourself reputable BM during this time, i think they will guaranteed bounty value.

I remember when I first joined the bounty in 2016, that every project that created a campaign always used escrow for everyone's convenience, but when in 2018 until now why did the project that held the campaign not use escrow, because in my opinion using escrow was very important for a project that runs a campaign so that the project doesn't deceive everyone, be it investors or bounty hunters promoting the project, so they all don't think badly about the project.

hope bounty campaign manager will read about this, then they will run their bounty when the rewards already held by escrow
so, bounty hunters will get their rewards on schedule wich mean the re will be no delay anymore

It's always depend on the BM other bounty manager already started to accept only a campaign that they secured the payment to BM like Murat I saw some campaign he manage that he hold the funds for payment for secured bounty payment for hunters and another BM that I remember do that is julerz.

It's really hard  to make it as Mandatory but since someone  has started it, the normal habit can be change and soon if many BM do that campaign it will become prioritize before launching their bounty here.

Using escrow of course gives some confidence that after the end of the bounty campaign, hunters will be sent coins, but there is no guarantee that the project will be successful, that it will not turn out to be a Scam, etc. So do not raise the escrow on a pedestal))

I didn't understand what's that meant "if I didn't do well". Temtum projects cheated the bounty hunters, even bounty managers. Escrow process is equally important with legitimate process. Summer doesn't agree with the escrow process.

We desperately need something that makes sure bounty hunters are paid on time after the campaign ends and there are no excuses or delays by the team or manager.
Also it is high time that hunters should unite and start something to name and shame projects and teams that do not pay or deceive hunters in any possible way so i would suggest to form a union or association to create a bigger and louder voice.

Yeah many times hunters were wrecked by projects, we worked well for them but in the end they deceived us, same old excuses double entry etc.
When project deceived us hunters united against project but they really don't care if they succeed in perfect project then their hard work but if project dies then bounty hunter fault.
I know about few bounty management who working well and only working for real projects and I appreciate their work, kindly do not take part in any bounty campaign without any investigate/research. 

I'm pretty sure that there are some bounties that did something like that, bounties that do not use an independent escrow that is not part of the project can always pull something like this, they can always change the rules in a way that benefits them and that they know a great deal of bounty hunters are not going to accept and save themselves a great deal of coins, and then when the bounty hunters point their fingers at them and accused them of cheating they can always say that they just refused to follow the new rules and that they would have been paid if that was the case.

that's why  Escrow is so important. everything regarding that rules should be stated from the start of the contract. an example of the laziest thing is when we have to verify KYC. if not then no get reward. so maybe if escrow is implemented it can be easier to solve that problem

look at payaccept , this team trying to deceived bounty hunter with postponed reward calculation and even hunter didnt know when bounty token distributed. its enough for us work with this kind developers, escrow was needed as win win solution that could solve any problem with bounty reward.

Do not be sad. sometimes a project is judged for its trustworthiness. So, when they don't pay the hunter bounty, sometimes the project won't last long. however, to avoid things like that, escrow is very necessary. I don't know what prevents a project from using escrow on each bounty they create.

Of course escrow is the best way to limit scam or delay bonus of projects. However, if the projects don't want to use it, weekly token payments are also a good option. The bounty hunters will be more motivated when they get their tokens soon.

Are you sure? I remember that this campaign was managed by Hhampuz, I have participated in twitter campaign and got rewards directly to exchange. Sold it have withdrawn my reward.

I agree that Escrow is necessary, but it not an obligatory. Who do you think should escrow funds? Bounty manager ? Not everyone can be trusted, even high ranked. Get a third-party escrow? With low budgets nowadays, not every project can afford it or will want to spend on it. Not every bounty campaign needs an escrow. If the sales turns to be low and project did not raise enough funds, should they still distribute valueless tokens or coin via escrow to hunters?

You have a point but as a fellow bounty hunter it is our duty also to become wise before joining any bounty campaigns out there aside from the beginners as they don't know
much yet about a genuine project vs potential scam project.

But if escrowed will be implemented then it will be good also, not only to the bounty managers side but also to the bounty hunters as they can assure that they can get what
they deserved base on their hard work. Team cheating is very rampant already but I am sure that bounty managers can do something about it so I am not so worried in this kind of threat.

Yes escrow is important because there are reports of a project not paying hunters for long. I was in a telegram crypto group where people do post about such projects that are hesitant to pay hunters. Recently a friend posted about Payaccept project who had a bounty campaign that ended 2-3 months ago but from that time they are making unnecessary delays, drama and have rude behavior with hunters so i think they should be ashamed of themselves because such behavior is not only unethical but unacceptable.
Some other projects who ran campaigns for months are also playing delaying games and some of them includes koinpro, swapzilla, billcrypt etc. So definitley Escrow can make sure that hunters will receive their rightful reward on time.

Escrowed funds for the bounty hunter is good. It can be an assurance to get the rewards from the project. It can be a good sign for the hunters to do the job well in promoting the project. However, even the escrow funds will not be a guarantee that all bounty hunters can receive their payments or rewards because it will still depend on the bounty manager or the one who kept the funds. High chance that the one keeping the escrowed funds will be the one to run away with the funds.

I agree to you. The value is what defines the bounty and if it still has a good price after the distribution, that will indicate that there's a bit of hope that the developers are doing a good job for it. But if the price totally dropped after the distribution then that only means that they are starting to sell a lot from their own holdings. The main thing which this thread is purposely made is only the escrow, but you cannot escape the dumping as it is a fact.

Using escrow for bounty will ease the mind of bounty hunters but it does not guarantee that bounty hunters will be paid at the end of the campaign if the escrow service chooses to run away with the fund.

Managers working under companies term mostly specially those Not established managers and trying to create their portfolio .
So they cannot force the team escrowing the funds and even handling for safeties.

Notlike those Big managers such as Hhampuz and Yahoo that making sure to handle the funds at least for the first week and will not continuing the campaign without sending another batch of payment in the following weeks.

In this scammers win,because desperate managers will work even in shaddy team.
If those manager will deny the team?for sure they will have no choice either run their own bounty or Use escrow.

I think what he meant by "even if the project didn't do well" is the outcome of the project.
Even if the project escrowed their bounty rewards so that the bounty hunters will receive it at the end of the campaign but the project is not in good condition in terms of achieving its goals, numbers of supports, etc.

Escrowed could be the safe & secure way, wanted by bounty hunters.thus hunters can work properly without tension about their reward.even team can't reduce the amount of fund if they want after escrowed but should be careful about the person whom being escrowed. Its better if he is from dt2 or dt3 cause i saw managers also cheating and get vanished with taking all escrowed fund. But anyone can't guarantee about the project even after compelete distribution

Its still useless because you would get those shit tokens in the end of the bounty program unless if the said escrowed funds had been put up in top coins neither on btc or alts then
that might be an advantage but no team will surely make this kind of deal.

They will always stick out on giving those token of theirs as a reward or pay for  the task that had been given.Escrowing funds is good but you cant guarantee that
those coins will really have value.

As others mentioned or said that it is much better if we do engage on campaigns that pays out on bitcoin.

That's true, even if the coins was distributed but if the project doesn't have enough investors or didn't managed to have a trading volume or persons who wanted to buy it on the market I really don't think it will be worth it. With escrow or without the risk of the bounty hunters is really high.

The risk is high, you are right. However, depositing reduces the risk that the project will refuse to pay if successful. This happens all too often.
Yes, often these coins will remain dead weight on the balance sheet, but if successful, we cannot be fooled.

How many times you have faced, that successful projects refuses to pay? Of course, there are cases when they skip distributing bounty rewards, but in most cases they pay. Do such projects need an escrow? I dont think so.
But how many times bounty tokens or coins that does not have a value were distributed? Many times. Do such projects need an escrow? Do hunters need an insurance that they will get reward that cost nothing? My answer is no.

Most managers know that escrowing bounties is better than the unnecessary risk of not escrowing them. But them not negotiating it from the beginning can be from greed and fear on their part. New managers will be scared of losing any bounty contract that comes their way. They rather accept to run bounties than miss it even when the reward system may not favour them. I have done a lot of bounties that did not bother to pay at all till date. In some cases the managers got tagged.

It seems that many bounty managers do not have the strength to enforce escrow. There have been several bounties that have been handled by the project itself and some are scams and some are paying. It looks like bounty managers just don't want their job loss. But it did kill the bounty hunter.

There must be a fair system for this work. Projects, bounty managers and bounty hunters must get the same satisfaction. But it is difficult because there are no serious rules in this forum.

Got your point there. Even you recieved the tokens coming out from the distributions but the developers failed to list the project
there still no value and your work is just a waste of time, with or without escrow things still relied with how the project will performed
it's best to take time following the project before participatind and work with the team.

Each company has a different way, perhaps some companies are afraid to give such huge sums to the bounty manager,

Exactly. How much escrowing funds cost? I've seen they take % of an amount escrowed. If a project is unsuccessful and cost 0, why would escrow accept this candy paper for a payment?

If a person change 200-500$ in bitcoin, while bounty in bounty campaigns we have 5-20k$ bounty pool, projects wont agree to spend more most probably. Then this amount will be deducted from bounty pool, which means hunters will receive less. Will they agree to that? Knowing that their bounty reward might be equal to few bucks?  ;D

yes you are right, if the payment is made weekly, it will make hunters excited and you don't have to worry when the campaign ends, like the signature code that I use now, distribution is always done every week

It looks like the team and manager must really use the services of a third party, in this case an escrow who has proven honesty and has positive trust because then at least the bounty participants will feel safer and more focused on doing their work without any fear do not get paid after their work is completed, many managers are currently risking their good name and credibility in handling a project which results in fraud, and it is not uncommon for many successful projects to end up cutting the budget allocated to bounty participants and if this continues, of course, there will be many bounty participants who retire from their jobs and consider bounty to be a waste of work and a waste of time.

I fully support you, we need to pay as often as possible and for the company to spend no more than a month, otherwise there is a waste of time.

Recently some bounty manager practice escrow service and i think "In the silence" is one of them. I fully appreciate this. This common picture of not receiving payment at the end of the campaign can change the escrow service. I think escrow should be mandatory.

Will it be good? Suppose the project wants to cut the pool or payments due to the fact that much less funds were collected than expected, but the funds in the deposit will not allow this.
As a result, the project cannot enter the market since the allocation of bounty hunters is too high, and liquidity will not cover it. As a result, the project is trapped.

Wxcrowed are cool but some team or project owners are now playing smart. They later change smart contract of lock excrow funds making them useless

Escrow is a good bounty payment strategy and I fully support it but not all new projects will support this though, it's also the bounty managers that can make escrow easier by compulsory it for new projects and it's on bounty hunters to make their choices, I believe that not all new projects will follow this strategy

I did some research on past bounties of this year and those who paid bounty hunters in good amount of money aren't Escrowed, this means that we still have sincere developers in crypto space so is escrow that important? I think it's not

you are literally describing the scam projects if its a legit project they wouldn't do such a thing but regardless I dont see any advantages of having escrow it would just prolong the distribution.

I don't think so. What pays the bounty manager is the project team. if the team flees, then the bounty manager and the hunters get nothing. I believe in fair bounty managers in distributing tokens according to the hard work of hunters. But the project team shouldn't be given complete trust. That's the importance of escrowing so that bounty managers and hunters will still receive payments when the project is successful

Well, that just makes me wanna join the not escrowed campaign. Things are just unpredictable in crypto. The ones you thought are not scams are just doing the opposite and then just gone. And the ones you thought scam somehow are just giving much for the people who promoted them. It's too difficult to say whos who in the bounty forum, you will only knew they end up scam when its over.

At the end of the day, as a bounty participant, you have to trust the project. For me,,, as long as the project appoints someone external or independent this is fine it does not need to be escrowed.

I will tell you I had even 1 experience with an escrower well respected and they turned out to be allied with a bad project that lost us all funds.

On the other hand, I have been supporting now for a long time a casino that does not escrow funds at all, but has paid faithfully for our work.

So nothing guarantees anything is what I am saying:)

In this case, the escrow should be made not in project tokens, but in money, say, in stable coins. Otherwise, what difference does it make what kind of garbage to receive on the wallet that will hang on it as a dead weight? But if the team leaves real money as collateral, this will make a completely different sense. However, where does the project come from?

While I agree wholeheartedly that the rules should be stated from the very start especially the important ones like whether or not participants will have to go through KYC most bounty campaigns do not do this and change the rules during the middle of the campaign and the worst part is that the participants cannot complain because if they do that they get kicked out of the campaign and also because many bounty managers put rules from the beginning that allows them to change the rules so bounty hunters have basically no protection if they decide to join a bounty without an escrow.

I do not think escrow is the solution to projects that refuse to pay bounty hunters. Because for every solution there is a new problem, though it might work to a certain extent, but projects will find a way to bypass it. I have heard of projects that changed their smart contract after they paid the escrow, so the tokens became useless. The only solution is to only promote legit projects with trustworthy team.

There are some projects that cheat their bounty, hunters, and i really feel sorry for most bounty hunters after working for several weeks only to end up not getting rewarded for the efforts they put in to advertise the project, so I agree with you, escrowed bounties is a wonderful idea, but are you sure bounty managers will agree to add this as one of the rules to manage any campaign, we all know they want to earn some money too, so not all bounty managers will add this to their rules,nevertheless it will be great to have an escrowed bounty.

I have never seen escrow in bounty campaigns, can anyone give an example of a campaign using escrow? The idea is great, but very few people will take such a step, I think. Also, depositing will definitely lead to a decrease in the campaign reward pool.

Escrow is an important guarantee in bounty campaigns, usually well-known bounty managers always use escrow and are always the prima donna for followers, especially bounty hunters. but there are also Bounty managers who have used escrow, but have problems when sending tokens to their participants because of the high eth transaction fees and in the end require participants to send fees to claim the project token.

If you refer to bounties for altcoins, most of bounties are running to promote a token under-developement. This is normal that the reward pool can't be yet determined as we still can't determine the price.
For other bounties, like btc paid signature campaigns and bounties paying with tradeble token, i think it should be mandatory to escrow the pool especially if the bounty is managed by an unknown user or a newbie team member. In "Services" main board, managers are also escrows who hold funds for at least one running week and i think hunters should follow those managers. Hhampuz is a great example and he is also managing altcoin bounties.

The bounty cryptocurrency space has been plagued by several ill practices and unscrupulous acts that has led to lots of mistrust and insincerity. This has meant that most hunters and participants alike have lost interest, trust and confidence in the system. With the introduction of escrow between projects, bounty hunters as well as bounty managers, there has been a relatively significant increase in trust and believe in the system yet again. The concept of escrow is one that should be encouraged in every bounty campaign and should be sustained going forward. The cryptocurrency initiative was built on being transparent, safe and secure. With escrow services employed and integrated into bounties, this is further promoted and made solid. This is exactly why escrow services should be introduced into bounty managements.

Yes it's necessary for bounty managers to use an excrow and a reliable one when hosting a bounty, but recently its not only about the project owners but some bounty managers are in bed with this project owners, how about that, does excrow contract extend to that?

Very Important, and as possible all projects should have escrow funds. Also, this also good feedback for the project because they have funds to rolled-up such projects which means they are serious about it and can minimize speculations about the project. Also, whatever happens, to project whether it failed or succeed, people who work for it will not be put in a sorry state. Just consider it as a guarantee.

I did not knew about that, it seems scammers will always find a way to scam their bounty hunters and investors, however it does not seems as if they are realizing that it is precisely because of this that the number of bounty hunters are going down and the interest of investors in those projects is disappearing as well, after all we have limits and if you are scammed all the time then you are not going to have a lo of excitement over a new project when you know that for the most pat they are lying and you are never going to get paid even if you followed every single rule while being on the campaign.

if bounties are carried out for bitcoins
 then the main requirement is that the fund for the bounty campaign is kept by one of the famous people with a good reputation on the forum
as for bounty campaigns for tokens
 they do not have the opportunity to provide their tokens before the end of the sale
 because, as a rule, tokens are issued only after the end of the sale

For easy bounty managing it's better to use limited participants, escrow isn't a must to have a clean bounty promotion experience, first make sure the project is clean and different, high quality use cases gives an easy head light, secondly make sure the bounty manager is well experienced, I would choose quality over escrow and mind you quality projects don't use escrow campaigns

That's right, escrow in a bounty campaign is to guarantee participants to be paid in any form of token, regardless of the price of the token, which however guarantees payment will clearly exist, just because this is rarely used by new managers at this time, then every bounty participant who tries to take part in the bounty must always check it first in great detail and when there is no payment, then don't feel disappointed about this even though we have spent a lot of time on the bounty.

Yes, but what we have seen so far is that escrow only exists in bounty campaigns where the payment is in the form of Bitcoin, while the payment is in the form of a token project itself, escrow is very rarely implemented, so that bounty participants are vulnerable to being deceived when joining bounties whose payments are in the form of tokens.

Once a bounty have escrow it is secure but they need to hired a trusted escrow who have previous of escrowing the coins. Also the escrow need to accepts dollars or maybe ethereum or bitcoin because what if the escrow hold the token of the project and let say their get tokens as their reward but we are not sure that the token that getof the participants will be tradable in the future unless they have assurance in bitcoin that they trade anytime.

To make the reward secure for hunters, using the escrowed is  best system Without doubt.at first each project make promises to distribute token among bounty hunters within given time but most of them keep the date postponed even one after another & consistently do the shit process. In many case, hunters even done kyc verification with their valuable documents that suddenly asked by team but at last cheated with hunters & neglecting as like useless fellow.team flee away with money and forget secrifice and contribution that hunters did for them for rasing money during tokesale. So need escrowed for upcoming bounty to ensure the payment

Escrowing funds or rewards is always preferable but the thing here is that majority of them wont really be dealing with that kind of set-up.

They do always tend to have the control when it comes to distribution of funds.It is always been stated that they would really be distributing after the bounty
but shit do happens when they do tend to ran away and wont be paying.

Escrow is a good thing but the management wont really be agreeing these kind of terms.

true, if you want there will be no more fraud, you should not provide with tokens that will be issued but must be in the form of tokens that are well known or easy to account for, such as bitcoin or ethereum.
so if they do something that is not praiseworthy then they will lose themselves because the funds that have been deposited will still be able to be distributed.

The problem is, is there a mechanism that must be implemented so that this can work well, if there is no help from the Admin because all decisions and regulations depend on the admin. It should be for those who have the authority to be able to discuss it well because this involves a lot of fraud, at least there is a way out that can be done. Hopefully this can be realized well and bounty hunters don't always accept lies continuously.

I am sure many new people here call escrow for bounties trivial,
but for me escrow is very important for the continuity of the bounty and of course for the convenience of bounty hunters,
with escrow we don't have to worry about not being paid, we know not getting paid from the project is indeed a risk,
but we have to make changes to make the bounty even better.

Exactly, it is but how numerous alts ventures are willing to utilize escrow for their bounty, As it were exceptionally few among the numerous alts bounties that utilize escrow in their bounty, most of the alts tokens are not indeed stamped amid the bounty campaign so how do you anticipate them to utilize escrow, as much as have cherish that it isn't planning to happen in numerous alts or other bounties.

Yes, I agree with it.

Escrowed plays a important factor for reward campaigns. Because now-a-days scam is everywhere. Project refuse to pay the token after the end this how the reputation of Bounty Manager goes down and the hardwork of hunters will spoil. So, according to me Escrowed is most important thing for reward campaign for trust and safety.

I think by now every bounty hunters should have in mind that reward might not get to them at the end of a campaign and for this reason we should be selective in whatever campaign we want to do. We should not take part in all campaign, this will safe us from some embarrassment that might likely come. Escrow is fine but this might not work with all campaign.

I agree with what you said, because if we are not selective in choosing a bounty project to avoid a scam project, now I think a project that makes payments every week will certainly be better like a project that pays bounty participants using bitcoin, however In this case it seems that the use of escrow is a pretty good step to be able to guarantee bounty participants get paid for their work, but of course escrow is truly trusted.

I also prefer Bounty that are well escrow so that I and other participants wouldn't chase after the team or manager for payment. The challenge is we face with this condition, it's very hard to see a bounty that will escrow a payment except for signature campaigns. It's very difficult and even if the team decide to give out the fund, it's usually little with limited participants. Very discouraging.
When you choose to go this way as a bounty manager, you may end up nothing after the end of the year as there are other Bounty managers that are ready to accept the offer with open hands.

I found few low budget bounty project, who use Escrowed service.moreover haven't found yet any big budget bounty who dare to use Escrowed.team don't want to give Escrowed, they want to delay our payment and want to play market.investors & project's team members totally destroy the token price and then pay us worthless token.that's the technic, so they don't use Escrowed service for bounty.although it may different if the project is legit

Escrow is very important to use in campaigns with Bitcoin and Ethereum payment methods or any coins that are currently popular. This is because this coin has a more stable value than the shit token which is still very recently released by the platform. One of the reasons why Bitcoin-paid campaigns are more desirable is that the project concerned looks more professional and more intent on actually wanting to grow the project. They set a budget with real money.

In contrast to projects that pay with very recently released tokens. Tokens like this do not have a definite price that allows us to get paid for these tokens, but we don't get the right price or we can't even sell them because there is no exchange that lists the tokens. It's only for people who are happy to rest on their luck.

we do need to be selective in choosing and supporting each project. if the project is really useful, we believe that it will be needed in the future, and will be very valuable. The use of escrow is also great for increasing confidence and peace of mind at work. well, in my experience, so many people keep asking about payment, even when it's been months. therefore, escrow becomes very important.

Actually escrowed bounty should be one of the mandatory measures before any bounty campaign is allowed to come online. Many years have passed and still we haven't made any progress on this regard. Bounty hunters continue to participate in shady campaigns, only to get cheated in the end. And the promoters don't care, as they know that they can recruit bounty hunters, even with the most exploitative conditions.

we haven't standard at this moment about bounty escrow. every manager work with their self and unfortunately there is no special community for bounty manager that may used to make deal about pre-requisites before bounty campaign launched. if all hunter community solid about standarization , i am sure developers project will follow our rules and ofcourse bounty quality could increase due of this.

Bounty Hunters need to monitor the projects properly before participating in any campaign. It is not easy to become elected without knowing the right choice. But for bounty hunters it is a good decision to use Escroed. This makes their work easier and helps to increase the work past. Bounty chooses the right path for selection and gives an experience about how safe a company is for a good transaction. Seeing this I think Escroed is very important for bounty hunters.

its common thing we will do before join in any bounty campaign. mostly bounty hunter didnt care about escrow , and only few manager courage to ask it to dev team . its not only protect bounty hunter about bounty payment , but also about reputation for project itself and manager.

You say it from bounty hunters point of view. Escrowed bounty funds might protect hunters from not being paid. What if coin or tokens does not have a value atm or is useless. Should escrow service be used in this case also?

What about the project? They spend funds and expect to see good results, such as attraction of investment, people, ideas. What they usually get from bounty ? Posts on the forum just to meet minimum required eligible post count. Tweets and post in social media to auditorium that consist mainly from "#followback / #followforfollow /#followme" users and other bounty hunters. Who will protect the project from low quality promotional work? Who will protect them from spending money on nothing?

I've asked few bounty managers why they don't compulsory escrow and the answer I get was not all new projects want or allows escrow payment, and this doesn't mean they are trying to scam bounty hunters, even DIA project that paid bounty hunters huge amount of money this year refused to use Escrow when bubbalex asked the team

Escrow is not mandatory and just still an option. It really depends on what project it is not all projects will run away and deceive the bounty participants well it's just really a matter of luck to find some bounty campaigns that's paying a decent price to their participants.

Escrow is really not mandatory, teams have the right to say no to escrow strategy if they like and this doesn't mean they have bad plans for their promoters, bounty hunters need to focus more on promising bounty campaigns only, not all projects will meet up to standard but some will keep their promises, it's just the way it is

Well it's not necessary because there is no value yet of the coin and we never know if their project will be successful but I'm ok with that, escrow for every bounties so that we will surely receive our reward when the bounty is over or after the final calculation of the spreadsheet we get the tokens right away.

Escrow can only ensure that Bounty Hunters get paid. Because after receiving a token payment, if that token is not listed on the exchange, then what is the value of that token?  Many such tokens may be in our wallet. I think the success of a project is a big thing.

It does not matter bounty escrowed or not if you will get paid with their coin/token. Even if the coin or token escrowed but the project is scam project, you will never have any chance to sell the coin/token. The important thing is the company behind the project has high commitment and we as bounty also work with commitment, do a good pos, comment in twitter with good and dont cheat.

Escrowed should be Compulsory for all bounty program before launched and that'll be the proper way to treat with bounty hunters. Otherwise bounty should be avoided because join bounty without Escrowed is like waste of time nowadays.i notice, good project always make excuse and delay & get disappeared suddenly.so escrowed is the only solution for solve this cheating problem by team

Whatever be the type of project, it's always a better option to escrow. Be they be paying weekly or at the end of the campaign.
Escrow maynot be useful in all circumstances, for example a bounty escrowed with the project token which fails to get listed on an exchange. But when the escrowed tokens or coin has a value, the bounty participants are sure to get something even if the project goes scam or refuse to pay to the participants.

The problem is that we, as bounty hunters, we are accepting to deal with these projects and give them our time. They can't scam if the community asks them to put the tokens or the coins in the hands of an escrow service. We take the blame too for letting them waste our time and run with our efforts. There's a bounty moderations platforms, we should start using them instead of interacting directly with these suspicious bounty campaigns.

It's the best solution there is for such hunters will have the opportunity to get paid and being rewarded by all the hardwork they have tenured during the bounty sessions. And with that approach it will give more pride and confidence to hunters to work hard more on bounty hunting.

at this time, I also choose to work on projects that have escrow, or something like that that can guarantee we get paid after doing some tasks. however, the use of escrow is not a disadvantage. I think spending a small amount on it is not suitable for a project that wants to grow very large. it can attract the trust of others.

yes, we all don't know the price of the token when listing, but at least if we use escrow we can get a token according to the bounty title or allocation that has been set.
if don't use escrow and then the token price is expensive the team will definitely reduce the bounty allocation or delay payment until the price really dumps or they don't even pay at all

I've infrequently take an interest in escrow bounties on this platform since they aren't my taste, some joined and the final product wasn't so fulfilling, to me it's about the nature of a project not getting the tokens that might be pointless, excellent project team will consistently need to keep their integrity so they will pay, postponements may occur yet in the end payments will be made

The cost could be higher to hire an escrow but it would also come back with reputation as well. Let's say you are a project head, hired as a marketing person and they told you to spend 100 thousand dollars on marketing purposes, and you decided to put 5-10 thousand dollars on bitcointalk signatures and bounties.

Which one would you prefer, do a 10 thousand deal with each and single person here and calculate everything yourself and basically be in charge of it spending your whole day checking messages from each person? Or would you prefer to spend 1 thousand dollars on hiring some escrow and manager, and let him spend the other 9 thousand dollars? Not only it will make you look a lot more reputable and trustworthy and make people trust your project more, it will also make your job a lot easier at the same time as well. It is a no-brainer for a legit project.

^ Escrow also cannot guarantee that hunters are paid for their work. I still remember there was a bounty manager that implemented the escrow token system, but the tokens had absolutely no price because it had not been listed on any exchange. just follow the campaign that you think is suitable for you and don't hope up too much.

I also believe that an extremely high fee can make the functioning of bounty campaigns very difficult. I am talking about those whose projects use ERC20 tokens. I think that all bounty hunters will have to start looking for projects with tokens created on Tron, Waves or other platforms. Escrow becomes the least of the problems at this point.

Everyone is busy to discuss about escrowed which i also support.using escrowed is the way where hunters can feel free to trust on that project.no need to worry for their payment & able to promote the project freely without doubt.apart from that, selecting the project for ivestment or bounty hunting, both are most important thing than using escrowed service cause escrowed for any scam worthless project isn't going to bring benefit to anyone

sometimes there are bounty managers who have claimed to be the project campaign escrow. they get the token from the project first before doing the campaign. usually, it is found in projects that are already on the market and the payments are also weekly. I support campaigns like that, but sometimes some projects run away after the campaign is over. and did not complete the payment. as was the case with the bountydetective mananger. they once held a new scam project. the token ended up not being distributed because it would not give anything to the participants who had joined.

You know, in current realities, escrowing bounty rewards wont help at all. By looking on Ethereum transaction fees, it will be simply not profitable to send rewards, when fee is several times bigger than reward itself.
I think most important now is to search bounty, which tokens are not on Ethereum blockchain. Because with a huge probability, devs simply wont send rewards, due to fees. Better search something on Tron as fees will simply cost nothing, or Waves, because you can always sell everything on their dex.

Being a bounty hunter is always tested with payment after a bounty campaign project is over. Many of the projects fled without ignoring the bounty hunters who had worked for several months to promote their project through various social media. although many have also paid for the work of bounty hunters. however, to implement escrow is very difficult for many projects to accept. although there are some projects that want to use escrow, this implementation is very difficult to implement.

On paper escrows is the best way to approach bounty hunting in the crypto space however in reality this is almost not feasible for new projects because it will draw in a lot of Bounty Hunters are not really committed to promoting the project but are only interested in the money they have to offer and also it will also reduce the way projects are able to promote their coins and increase the trading volumes.
So I really doubt new projects will adopt the escrow approach however for good and serious projects that are worried about their  coins or tokens dumping in the market after listing then using escrows is the way forward.

There are a lot of bounty projects. All the projects are not same. We can find differences between them, differences in their bounty task, the differences in their payment system. Hunters can choose the best projects, among them. And hunters might be benefited if all the bounty projects start paying weekly. It will prove a projects activeness. Thus the projects which will cheat can't continue to cheat long time. But good bounty projects never cheats. This is the hunter's own responsibility to choose the best project before start working for the project.

So many people have been fooled by bounties that don't pay off. I myself recently participated in the bounty and did not get a payment for the reason the team delayed the payment until now. And now after joining the Amepay bounty, it is experiencing payment delays due to the high gas fee. this is very detrimental for the participants. all of us here also do assignments according to the rules. wasted time on it but didn't get paid

Escrowed could be the safe and secure way, needed and wanted by i think every bounty hunter thus we bounty hunters  can work appropriately without strain about their reward.even group can't diminish the measure of asset in the event that they need after escrowed yet ought to be cautious about the individual whom being escrowed. Its better on the off chance that he is from dt2 or dt3 cause I saw supervisors likewise cheating and get evaporated with taking all escrowed reserve. Be that as it may, anybody can't ensure about the task even after compelete conveyance

certainly the use of an escrow in a bounty campaign would greatly increase the quality of the same and the trust in the project of the bounty hunters but it is not always necessary sometimes it is enough to rely on serious, trusted campaign managers

Escrow only ensures that the managers get tokens,,, but as you see even the high gas fees are a problem. If teams are not even willing to pay bulk transactions for bounty it is a huge sign of mismanagement of Ether. Why not they use Layer 2 solutions like many exchanges are already doing?

Of course, can find different ways out of the situation, including the one you mention, but today the Bounty Hunters don't have that much choice.
At least it would be fair to all parties to the agreement, which is conditionally concluded for the Bounty company. Escrow is primarily a guarantee of trust in the project and an indicator of the real intentions of the team, as well as real confidence in receiving a reward for each Bounty Hunter. In addition, in the proposed variant of the course of the problem, each bounty manager will be under strong supervision and authority will play an important role.

maybe now only a few bounty managers use escrow services in their projects and most of the projects that use escrow are usually projects that use eth or bitcoin as a means of payment for participants. I see very few projects that do use escrow for token payments and usually project bounty token payments will be made by the project team after the project is complete and the final spreadsheet has been sent by the bounty manager.

for escrow matters, these are often managed by well-known managers like Hhampuz, Bounty Detective, Bubbalex etc. It is even safer if the project you are participating in uses a payment system using btc, I remember if I am not mistaken new managers like SmallRabbit First time managing Amepay projects using the btc payment system in the signature section.

Escrow isn't everything, even reputable bounty managers are been used by scam projects too, you need to be in charge of decision making so don't rely on others, so your own research very well and accepts whatever happens later, not all bounty projects from bubbalex and others become successful, that's reality

What about having escrowed rewards, which turned to cost zero? Will it still be important and if the answer is yes, then why?
The number of bounties I've participated has passed the mark of 250. I've been cheated, got huge rewards and experienced everything. I'm not 100% sure, but among all these bounties, less than 5 had such a benefit as escrow. In general, I have a positive experience of bounties without escrow. Personally, I dont care if there is escrow or not. I just dont join every available campaign, I dont expect much from bounties and now dont feel disappointed if I dont receive rewards.

In my opinion, BountyDetective is not transparent enough. There is a misunderstanding that the project he manages I have participated in and did not get paid at that time. I am really disappointed with him so far not getting my rights.

Escrow is actually important, but we often encounter many devs and campaign managers who don't use escrow. when a dispute occurs while the funds are in escrow all will be resolved by the initial agreement. However, if it is in the bounty rules manager, there will be many problems, from reducing the amount to delaying payments

in my opinion escrowed bounty is quite important, because a scam project bounty is very difficult to detect, and now more and more people are taking advantage of it for personal gain, so in my opinion escrowed bounty is very much needed, besides making it easier to achieve the goals of the project, it can also attract investor interest and trust

We keep talking about escrow over and over, it's a good idea indeed but majority of bounty projects that I promoted never introduced escrow and still they paid good amount of rewards to their promoters, I would like to ask the audience too, how many escrowed bounty projects have you joined?

Escrow projects can turn to scam, the project team can decide to change smart contract after paying all bounty hunters the tokens, escrow doesn't guarantee anything, also most new projects don't have their tokens alive when bounties is ongoing, they tend to create token smart contract later so tell me how will escrow be done in such way?

sVault.finance (BSC) & Pisces.Finance (ERC20) is an example of the Escrow project and until now they have not paid the participants, I do not know how their latest developments regarding token distribution. or maybe there is some other reason for that. but what is clear is only an example that the Escrow project is not necessarily guaranteed.

The facts confirm that escrow can guarantee bounty hunters get paid, so it is vital that bounty directors require the undertakings group  to consent to utilize escrow. In the event that they don't utilize escrow, there are a great deal of tricking that the undertaking group does against bounty hunters,  since project groups can change the guidelines in regards to installment issues when the advancement ventures will end. L

Yes you're right. Escrowed funds for a bounty project gives important to the project and many participants would join since the rewards are safe in the first place, but this is only if the team of the project recommends it to the bounty manager before the starting of the bounty and i guess it gives confidence for those who participate to earn their rewards. Because sometimes, not escrowed bounty could end up not giving rewards, because the team may not be responsive sometime whenever fails.

No one forces you to take those risks, you will participate in it or not is up to you to decide.
In this space, everything happens every day, legal or fraudulent, and if you can't judge everything for yourself, don't blame it. The issue of the deposit bonus is only considered as one of the priorities to evaluate a bounty campaign.

If you don't have that time to assess and just quickly jump into any project to participate, there's no one to blame,

it's so happened that this market have both good and bad it's participants decision to join or forget about it. Your

action needs to properly assess everything before you ride with the project.

There's no way for the bounty participants to demand and that's why as you choose the bounty that you want to join. Choose those that has a reputable manager and has escrowed the funds.
If you've not seen that with the bounty that you want to join, it's your decision if you're going to wait for another bounty to come that will have that category and standard.

I have a different mindset than you, if I don't have time to evaluate something, I won't waste any more of my time on such things. In general, it is absurd to unintentionally work for projects with fraudulent purposes and ask them to pay, it is clear that we find such projects very risky, but not without effort spent will be duly rewarded.

Why is it a big risk? First of all you don’t need to make investments. You just plug a product by doing different tasks like following social media, make up a video about the project or type an article about it, and then you might be paid for it.
Secondly, I strongly believe that if you do a research you will avoid scam projects. You always should go through social media, web-sites and overview the team members.

It's true, the advice you gave is very good and can also be used by those who have social media accounts with a high number of followers, because the pay is definitely high too, be it from websites, youtube accounts, twitter and others.

Escrow is an important thing, but what's more important right now is a good project. Because nowadays there are so many scam projects, we are tired of working and they just disappear.

Bounty hunting that focuses more on the quality of the campaign than just the quantity of hunters generally do well. Using escrows,  limited participants and quality checks like this often increase the quality if a campaign and it also helps the project to reach their goals while also paying off the hunters handsomely. However escrow is not fail proof but it goes a good way in preventing hunters from getting cheated

Escrow is important for bounty hunter payments. it also makes the concern of reducing the initial bounty allocation less likely. To be honest, there are so many benefits of escrow for the bounty program. in addition to guaranteeing payment, it also increases participant confidence.
but somehow the managers always underestimate this problem even though it is profitable between hunters and BM
a lot of bounty projects don't pay after the current success, so my advice is for BMs it's better to use escrow at least there is a guarantee of being paid, whether the value of the token is worth it later is a back matter at least there are results and evidence that we as hunters have supported the project