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User profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2873303 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2873303)

I have already posted there why its suspicious to me,

I have wrote to the owner from their official chat group (https://t.me/HEXcrypto).

https://i.imgur.com/5YNQhoH.jpg

I am assuming a brand new account just want to advertise his/her referral link since there is no any escrow funds.

Archived Signature campaign thread: https://archive.is/Kgnbs (https://archive.is/Kgnbs)

And what, desperate users still keep applying without reading previous warnings/comments, it sure have descent rate but that wouldn't matter.

I tried to contact the admin a long time ago and an admin blocked me and later i could not pm him.
Anyway Hex com Blockchain CD account already received red trust so everyone will be alert and not try to apply again after seen red.

I checked with HEX telegram channel and not make campaign for their coin reward, I think we are most fault by higher signature reward payment and look most stupid why applying without check confirmation first with their developer project.

I have checked the campaign ANN and thread creators haven't make any response without the signature post only. As we all know that new projects use trusted forum escrow service for participants payment safety but in this case they haven't announced anything about escrow yet.

Thanks "sujonali1819" for contacting with HEX telegram admins and posting the details of your conversation on the signature topic. Now its participants wish to apply or not.

Actually its pretty much hard to stop them from submitting their application and most of them haven't got enough time to check that the campaign is running by real authority or not. Even some of them have no worries about participants payment safety and I don't know how many of them have proper knowledge about Escrow.  

No doubt, such a decent rate and that's enough anyone could victim like this suspicious campaign. Signature participants are just so desperate of making money without caring what's happening their background. You couldn't change their attitude!

a little cruel word but I agree, because the prize offered is also quite large. This is similar to the BestChange campaign when they issue many who question but become trusted because they pay their participants.

as the thread is self-moderated  I preferred not to make any posts and left negative feedback on the @ Hex.com Blockchain CD account until it comes to this thread to clarify this issue and also to show proof that it has funds to pay the campaign participants and use escrow. To be honest I don't even know how he will explain this whole situation and clean his image. because so far I can’t understand what his purpose is if he’s not part of Hex.com


https://i.imgur.com/Rf5tEfD.jpg

when it comes to participating in any signature campaign, it becomes a battlefield where people only pay attention to the values they will receive and rush to apply.

After seeing some screenshots about the conversation with the Hex team and they said they didn't have any campaign on this forum? Then who is he who posted the signature is this a joke game he is?

But there are still no answers to the many questions about escrow.
Will this campaign be like BestChange which was initially criticized for not using an escrow service? and they can now be trusted.

We are waiting for his response until he is active again in this forum.

I see hundreds of scam accusations against HEX sites.

As posted by: @Hex.com Blockchain CD in the campaign.

Does all this have to do with the accusations below.

Topic: [SCAM] Hex Land Ponzi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234167.0)

Topic: [SCAM] Hex-land.com - Ponzi scheme (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225712.0)

Topic: Accusations Against HEX & Founder (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211874.0)

Topic: Hex.win is a scam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244655.0)

If, the allegations above are about them, then, beware of the campaigns they promote.

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Beware of the scam / ponzi HEX campaign.

Read: https://beincrypto.com/hex-a-bitcoin-linked-ponzi-slammed-by-analysts/?utm_campaign=amba&utm_medium=social&utm_source=bitcointalk&utm_content=jc

Topic: So Richard Heart is a Bitcoin ponzi scammer too? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207757.0)

This image matches the signature of the HEX campaign.

https://zizihub.com/51f321.jpg

They were rejected a long time ago. Hex.win will redirect to hex.com

No, this campaign will never be like BestChange.
1) BestChange never open a self-moderated signature campaign thread.
2) The owner of the company never denied opening a signature campaign on this forum.
3) They never offered shady (Roi investment) service which Hex project offer and you can see the owner don't even care about the situation happening on this forum. Mind you, he may be the one behind it since you don't care if the image of his project is tarnished

This is not the first time. I guess I have seen such attempt one more time back in the day. The purpose is to gain some free advertising I guess and there's no way campaign manager is going to pay.
It's better if we avoid but some people are too naive to get the trick.
Since, he isn't any official stuff, I guess instead of tagging hi for running campaign without escrow, they should be tagged for impersonating other.

Which shows that theymos was also aware about the scam activities of the project but it sad that some individuals of this forum dont really care about making this forum decent just for the sake of the newbies which are inexperienced that may be another victim of the Hex project.

LOL it means people will freely advertise his ref link during 13 days, since the first so called payment is planned for Friday 13  :(

"I don't care lol" - owner of Hex.com

I guess you can count unprofessionalism from a concern of them being a scam for their investment as really being a scam.  I mean if this owner/founder doesn't care about them being called as a scam from another user then I think they themselves accept that what they are doing is not real and they don't care about what other people think as long as they benefit from what other people are doing which in this case a user is trying to promote his/her referral link.

Nice catch OP.
This signature campaign is not related to Richard Heart and Hex project. Since HEX price is well-known for the huge pumps, many frauds will abuse the name of project as trap for newbies and this is not the first time they do such thing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243674).
However, the project itself is really suspicious. Because, there are many scam accusation reports against this project calling it ponzi and the owner is accused of price manipulation and scam.

Thanks to the Op it's quite clear now this was an attempt by the signature started at a cheap advertisement that he/she most have obvious achieved as the signature thread did reach a large number of audience judging from the page view and reply. And not forgetting most of the applicants already wore the signature ads that's been showed to others that views their post.

Now the questions comes, are they (the applicants) to be punished or not for supporting a scam, put into consideration many obviously won't have been aware of the accusations against the HEX project. Some might say this isn't an excuse since we have been informed countless amount of times to do background research on project we're indicating interest in advertising.

Also assuming this was a legit and authorized promotion from the HEX team, would the signature campaign been left to carry-on their promotion on the forum and the promoters won't be penalized?.

There's a chance it was some sort of HEX whale or serious bagholder that maybe thought a sig campaign would be a good idea, or maybe the whole thing is a scam. Either way, it's irredeemable garbage. By the guy's response, he's completely apathetic to entertaining any conversation that isn't directly making him money. He's a total conman:

https://cryptotraderspro.com/hex-founder-outed-spam-king/

Oh, now the op start cleaning from the posts who give warnings on that thread as you expect from a self-moderated thread.

Well, I guess if this happen to other project they'll do the same, its a free promotion for them after all especially a project like that, that has lots of scam accusation.

Refused escrow because crypto (LOL) and obviously deleted all warnings from the thread. Keeps pretending that this is about HEX and not some ref link bullshit.

Yes, this is not the first time, Hex.win, fake signature campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205976.0).

Perhaps the people behind thinks that we already forget the first sig campaign. Not gonna happen here, lol, with so many scam busters around this community, they will be exposed before they can even think of their excuses.

I like to warn those who would like to apply but the thread is in moderation it's likely to be deleted, but with so many giving tagged it will be noticeable to those applying that something is wrong with that campaign, they are likely to be tagged if the campaign push through and they are part of it.

Just woke up and see my post was deleted from the signature thread. Lol. And I am amazed that some people are still applying there after seeing manager trust score and shady behaviour. they are behaving like a bot.  ;D

Good to see that OP and other member make an action immediately on this kind of signature campaign we cannot deny most of us open the new signature campaign and they are giving a higher weekly payment of bitcoin that's the reason why there are a lot of members encouraged to submit their application, thanks to spreading awareness, also there is a way to close the thread? because right now there are still many accounts submitting their application and the thread becomes looks now a bounty application.

The selection time is quite long, 5 days until Thursday. Registrants start wearing signatures, some start posting and HEX get free promotion for 5 days.

I just think what if next Thursday the campaign is suddenly canceled, then he create a new campaign with the same length of selection time to get another free promotion?
And if Richard Heart Hex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1021) users have got the redflag, do Hex.com Blockchain CD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2873303) users deserve the redflag too? I think this is the same case, referral link promotion.

Even on the off chance that campaign manager fulfilled his obligation and paid the participants, it would also make sense to ban any HEX signature around the forum if admin already rejected HEX's prior advertising bid.

Woke up members applied to join HEX.

SmokerFace (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=880473)
bekti3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1168479)
KralSakir (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1414835)
cryptodude (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=169325)

Actually the payment is not bad at all if you check it. Problem is a lot of evidence that this could be a scam is high. Even the hex owners are denying it. But I do have a question though.

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What if he is really a whale that support that hex project or coin and willing to spend his own money to promote for it. Does the campaign still invalid? The only thing he lack is escrow and refuses to do so. However, Ive seen no escrowed project that turn out to be good in the end like bestchange. Also wanted to know if that guy did is in violation of an heavy rule in forum.

It's not really a matter of money and the funds not being held with an escrow, people are free to set up a campaign to advertise anything no matter if it's' their referral link or the Washington Post. It's a matter to promote a scam scheme.

Personally, I am disgusted to see members posting their application without even having a look at the project. They should be able to be aware of what they are willing to promote. If they had done so they would have realized the joke.
There are already enough people getting fooled and what they are doing is just helping more to catch more naive persons.

It's crazy, in the world for a few bucks people are willing to do anything.  2020 and nothing change:-\

In my honest opinion there is a huge difference between the two projects you mentioned. HEX is an obvious ponzi scheme/scam project, which has faced tons of scam accusations in the past. Let's see what other people in the industry say about HEX:




Source: https://cryptonews.com/exclusives/is-hex-a-scam-or-just-something-that-looks-really-really-lik-5300.htm

And that's only one quoted article. If you need more information just do a quick Google-Search or check out these two articles, which I found in seconds, when I googled "HEX scam":

HEX token scam ads claim 11,500% returns in 4 months (https://coingeek.com/hex-token-scam-ads-claim-11500-returns-in-4-months/)
HEX Still Can't Shake Scam Label as Token Approaches $1B Market Cap (https://cointelegraph.com/news/hex-still-cant-shake-scam-label-as-token-approaches-1b-market-cap)

In addition to that @YOSHIE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285951.msg55498168#msg55498168) pointed out that there were even several scam accusations on Bitcointalk already.

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Come on guys... that there are so many users joining this fake HEX signature campaign is embarrassing for our community on so many levels. Not only that users don't care if there is an escrow who is securing the funds or if it's a brand-new account with no reputation at all. They also don't care if it's a self-moderated thread or if the signature codes were made so badly that they don't even work properly.

But most importantly some users here are so fucking greedy that they absolutely don't care if the advertised project is an obvious scam. They don't give a fuck if their signature lures more people into the hands of scammers or if others will lose their money because of their signatures. And all this for a few bucks? I mean come on... there were tons of warnings posted in the thread already. How can you even consider applying there? The account has several red trust ratings already and some users are still applying? Jesus Christ, it's not because some people don't read - they just don't care.

Honestly I don't know, if it complies with the forum rules, but IMHO all participants that applied to the campaign [1] and and are willing to promte the HEX scam further on [2] deserve a neutral (or even a negative?) tag. How did the community handle cases like this in the past?

I mean... 11,500% in four month? 10.000x in 2.5 years? This shit is even worse than YoBit. Holy fuck.

Is the HEX in this image? If HEX team use 10 BTC to run campaign it will be a long campaign.


Andreas Antonopoulos: Hex Team Offered Me 10 BTC to Speak Well of Their Token  (https://news.bitcoin.com/andreas-antonopoulos-hex-team-offered-me-10-btc-to-speak-well-of-their-token/)

It goes to show how many members wouldn't care about the reputation of the website they are promoting as long as they're getting paid good, some of them retracted their application after they saw the accusations or maybe the just noticed there's no escrow and they think they won't get paid at the end of the week, but still there are about 3 full pages of applications that are still not removed.

Almost 95% of the time if the signature or other campaigns have self-moderated topic that's a clear sign there is something wrong with the campaign or something.

https://i.imgur.com/G3nVtOX.jpg                                

Yeah, They are the real HEX, HEX become trending 6 months ago by promising a ponzi like to return to token holder. They hire many influencer to pump there coin just like what they did on the screenshot that they provide. Most of the project is not interested on promoting in the forum due to low efficiency of bounty program here. I said this because I saw it on one of the AMA of the team when topic is about marketing.

Who cares? Even managers have got multiple red tags, no one bothering to read them. I don't think any reputed participants will participate in this campaign who cares about their valuable time. Participants even do not use common sense before applying to the campaign. They thought they will just get paid for their post. It's good if they could earn but in this case, eventually, they will regret it.

The manager deleted my warning on their campaign, which is more shady behavior. Really suspicious brand new account managing high pay campaign with self-moderated thread. Let's wait a week, everything will come out. Probably I would revise my feedback if they paid their participants accordingly, but doubts, it wouldn't happen.

Who can save you if you don't want to save yourselves?

I think it is not fair to give negative trust to the applicants who applied for a campaign at the start. But if people continue applying for the campaign after they see the warnings, negative trust can be given to this users. Because most of the campaigns accept users who sent a message first, people can apply for it before they do a research.

Lol, creating a signature campaign with high payment rate turns to be the best way to lure multi account cheaters.
High ranked users dont abandon usually account and dont woke up "just to participate in bounty".
These account history should be carefully investigated in search for connection with others.

You are right, as always. In addition to the awakened accounts, a fleeting check revealed accounts evading the ban.

okala (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1108241) ,Restmand (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=791590)
Your words were prophetic, I filed a complaint with the moderators about these accounts.
They will regret it :D, as perhaps they would not have been noticed if they had not applied for this subscription

Quoting my post that OP of Hex.com* signature campaign deleted:


So it can only mean there will be no spreadsheet and that this is a joke campaign for free advertising, which’ll run for a week only before the manager comes up with an excuse to run away. I don’t think he will even choose a list of participants to be accepted.

@bullrun2020bro, I previously neutral-tagged the wearers of the Livecoin signature. It doesn’t do much to discourage people from participating per se, but more importantly it allows us to track when the campaign ends as all the tagged users will be wearing different signatures. So someone should come up and tag each of them.

*My autocorrect typed this as Hex.con  ;D

As I can see there are still users who are wearing signature and still, people are applying in the campaign,  These people do not care who is running the campaign, what things they need to check before applying to any campaign. For those people, I think we can write a detailed post, and every time they apply on such a campaign we give them neutral feedback with that educational link.

Also, I would request if we can create such a rule that if a scammer/ imposter launches such a campaign he should get a flag and if that flag gets enough votes, mods should lock the thread, to avoid further entries.

I up for this one which is actually a good suggestion.

Checking out the thread. Recently it had 100+ applications and now it decreases to 60+ as i remember which means people are withdrawing their applications due to
issue.People doesnt want to get negged on applying on an obvious scam campaign but even though there are still people who do apply in spite of the raised issue
and its pretty obvious that this is just a shitty pretending campaign.

That's a good idea but at the end of the day some people just aren't going to learn, and how much hand-holding should these people receive before they need to learn an important lesson about scammer-lead projects? The lesson being working for a scammer is usually unfruitful and a waste of time, and it pays to do a bit of research into a bounty/signature before signing up.

Let them do it whatever they want. That's their time and they have the right to waste it anywhere. We can just create awareness, they are the ones who have to follow. Even there are many red tags on the manager profile but participants do not care. So they deserve the loss of their time. I don't want to leave neutral feedback for them, it's just a waste of time.

It would be great, but doubts moderators will be involved with it since scam isn't moderated by the forum. But we may raise a flag to warn peoples.

If you are getting the opportunity of free advertising like this then why you will spend your money.

Have you seen his second reply?

After reading his last post it seems to me that he don't care what people are talking about him and similarly all the participants who have already submitted their application for joining that campaign have no care about it is real or fake. So you can tell that campaign owners and the applicants are same in their behavior.

Yeah,,, You are right. If participants don't feel it necessary to justify the authenticity of the campaign then no one can keep them on right track. I don't think after getting tag they will change their activity where they have tendency of join the crowd without justification.
 

Crazy world.

I remember how Bounty Detective tried to protect their reputation against accusations of managing scam bounty campaigns, how later they started a 5000 BNB reward campaign to improve their reputation. And now I see this 🔴[BOUNTY DETECTIVE]🔴HEX SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN $15,000 WORTH OF HEX REWARD POOL 🔴 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286632.0).

Either campaign discussed in first post was started by imposter and now Bounty Detective manage a legit campaign, either they havent seen this topic, or they were given an offer they they could not refuse.

wow, I just see this. I can not understand is there any relation to both campaigns?  First a fake campaign with a brand new account again after few days a bounty signature campaign.. If the bounty detective team sees this thread can give a correct answer. And yes we have nothing to do if the owner of HEX hired him(bounty detective).

You are correct, thanks for bringing it to attention, the one managed by Bounty Detective is the legitimate campaign, initiated by Hex CEO Richard Heart himself;

Bounty Detective represented Hex in their original campaign as well, and now they are running round 2, all other Hex campaigns are / would be impostors and fake...

I hope you are right because the CEO denied the first attempted signature campaign by an impostor and even went ahead to say he didn't care (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285951.msg55497735#msg55497735) after someone chatted with him
Maybe he should be contacted once again to confirm.

Okay, well sorry to break it to you but:

1. HEX is a shit scam token regardless of whether or not their bounty pays you at the end.
Update: OK I did my research and its not a scam per se but it is a bonafide shit token.
2. In the screenshot of the TG conversation in the first post, Richard Heart is asked if he is running any Bitcointalk bounty and he says "no." He might be specifically referring to the "fake" one, but if I was getting paid for wearing his sig I'd want to know if it was legit or not instead of just assuming that it is.

Edit:

It may not be a scam but its still sleazy as hell, IMO.

https://news.bitcoin.com/andreas-antonopoulos-hex-team-offered-me-10-btc-to-speak-well-of-their-token/

Yeah in that case he referred to that fake previous signature campaign, in which OP didn't appear since the day he started that fake campaign. That ended up exactly as everyone expected and hopefully some of those that applied learned the lesson.

Regarding this 2nd one, I checked a bit to see what I can find on their Telegram group and it looks like this one is legit and  endorsed by Richard Heart. Some member asked whether campaign is scam or not, and this is what he replied and as you can see, they are advertising it via bot.

https://i.postimg.cc/wBC8qp49/hex-bounty.jpg

Now the legitimate campaign for Hex.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289201.msg55589934#msg55589934) is being opened under the management of  Hhampuz. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=881377)

That's the worst part of everything and some more others are still applying. As in experienced as i maybe, from my number of visits to that section of the forum, I've been able to make certain deductions as to payment range for various ranks available on the forum that, when a campaign promises a higher pay, not that this is not possible but, when it's so huge that it doubles or almost doubles the normal and coming from a supposed inexperienced user judging from forum rank, it's got to stir doubts and raise some questions in the minds of prospective participants. I get it that we want to make some extra BTC or cash but, we've got to be realistic based on past history and clarify a few things before jumping unto just any campaign.

Looking at the first and second page of that thread, some users expressed some doubts and raised there concerns on the thread. A user requested for a signed wallet address while the other uploaded screenshots of his/her chat with bounty administrator but the drive to earn just made a lot of other users ignore. I guess they didn't want to be left behind but then, of what profit would it be to put in efforts in scam projects. A little curiosity could save you valuable time, data and promoting a project that could even harm you.

Now that hhampuz started new HEX signature campaign, no one will dare to say anything negative about those that are ready to promote HEX shitcoin.More than 80 people already applied.



Richard Heart couldnt buy Andreas Antonopulos with 10 BTC but he bought one of the most trusted and reputable members of this forum for few hundreds of dollars and all those that joined the campaign. That says a lot about bitcointalk forum.

I think this thread has started to shift more to criticism of the HEX token itself than the original scam signature campaign made by a throwaway account.

While I would never advertise for HEX or other ICOs even if I was paid good money, I also think we should leave organizers and participants of ICOs, campaigns and stuff alone, after all there’s nothing inherently wrong in joining one as long as everyone gets fully paid.

Tokens don’t fit in the send-me-money-but-you-never-see-it-again category. Some people will obviously disagree with this considering that a lot of tokens in the past have dumped after reaching a peak value but I would not as far as calling HEX a scam, it is more like something that will eventually lose its market value after the initial launch (and yes, I did watch Richard Heart’s announcement last year in December, I never bought any HEX though, I’m not sold on the idea that an asset can keep appreciating in value forever).

Well, that's hypocrisy when you (and me included) are the signature participants who would have applied on seeing the payment rates there without thinking a second thought had we not see the warning here :D let's go easy on them xD

But yeah, it's really important to research about every project before participating in it.

Huge difference here. Hhampuz is being hired to run a bounty, not "speak well" of HEX. Hhampuz is more of an advertising agent -- he is providing a service for hire. Aantop, on the other hand, is more of a spokesman and influencer. People buy coins based on what he has to say. So really it doesn't say anything about the forum.

With a high payrate, many people are tempted in the campaign, still I think if Hhampuz is hired to promote with the funds already held by him then it is safe for the participants, but if the HEX that is still being discussed is with the same mission being carried out or like the ponzi scheme it is up to each of us to judge how the HEX has worked so far.