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Title: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: Polo7 on November 03, 2020, 03:02:33 PM
The biden have Plan to start working big places for BLM and for white people who is unemployed and un educated.
Like factories and Agricultural If its needed They Will Bring people from Other locations across the USA to Work in those places.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: Gozie51 on November 03, 2020, 09:55:45 PM
Unemployment is not the big issue for US that any government can't fix or it has been a recurrent issue even during Obama. So fronting it as a challenge in Trump administration isn't going to make Biden look better either.

The issue America is going to face in the upcoming administration for four years tenure is that of insurgence, terrorism, external aggression and trade walls. Now, having these challenges in mind in my opinion and looking at the both political parties, both candidate and including their political and personal orientation, who do you think can better get support to fight American external interest ?

Remember the Republican and Democrat have different views and agenda, so a Republican candidate can better protect America and the sanity of the world better. I think Trump can have the sympathy of the American electorate.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: shinratensei_ on November 03, 2020, 10:56:40 PM
who do you think can better get support to fight American external interest ?
IMO if trump is much more nationalist compared to the biden. He did it before.

The election is not yet ended but when it comes to sending uneducated and unemployment into the agricultural sector could also be a good idea.

however, people will not actually follow the instruction. They must adapt to the new things. It can't be done easily.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: AicecreaME on November 04, 2020, 01:27:04 PM
The biden have Plan to start working big places for BLM and for white people who is unemployed and un educated.
Like factories and Agricultural If its needed They Will Bring people from Other locations across the USA to Work in those places.

I think it’s a nice concept to let the uneducated and unemployed be assigned on agricultural sector and business industries that need manpower. This can help these people have opportunities to work and generate an income to feed themselves and their families.

They would no longer need to rely on the government aide as they would soon have a work that can help them provide their needs. This can also help the US economy because the unemployment rate would decrease if majority would have a job to sustain their necessities. The tax income of the country would gradually rise because there would be more people paying taxes.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: (o)(o)ilikeboobs(o)(o) on November 04, 2020, 03:55:48 PM
Liberal Americans and I'm not sure people without a degree or a formal education like the work others create for them. The employment problem doesn't have to be on the same scale as Biden does. Even a waitress does not require a request. The United States recruits jobs based on qualifications, not qualifications. So Biden's plan was a waste of time and money.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: Silberman on November 04, 2020, 04:46:07 PM
Unemployment is not the big issue for US that any government can't fix or it has been a recurrent issue even during Obama. So fronting it as a challenge in Trump administration isn't going to make Biden look better either.

The issue America is going to face in the upcoming administration for four years tenure is that of insurgence, terrorism, external aggression and trade walls. Now, having these challenges in mind in my opinion and looking at the both political parties, both candidate and including their political and personal orientation, who do you think can better get support to fight American external interest ?

Remember the Republican and Democrat have different views and agenda, so a Republican candidate can better protect America and the sanity of the world better. I think Trump can have the sympathy of the American electorate.
While all of those are big problems and without a doubt they are important, people care more about what affects them directly on their everyday lives and the lack of jobs is at the top of the list of the problems the US citizens are worried about.

Not only the coronavirus has affected them greatly many companies have decided to begin to automate many processes in order to reduce personal not only to avoid the consequences of the pandemic but also because this saves costs and no new jobs are being created in which these people can work so a plan to somehow get those people employed is a must regardless of who ends up reaching the white house.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: blockman on November 04, 2020, 11:28:00 PM
The biden have Plan to start working big places for BLM and for white people who is unemployed and un educated.
Like factories and Agricultural If its needed They Will Bring people from Other locations across the USA to Work in those places.
This is a familiar setting for me that I've watched from one documentary but it's from the other country that we hate the most, not mentioning what country is that but it's the hermit kingdom. This is what their government do as they send people to places to work but the difference is that the government earns from them while them, getting a tiny profit from their labor. A plan like this is always part of the campaign's platform but we shall see if it will be done as promised because this election is about to end.

Update: Blue 264 - Red 214


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: goaldigger on November 05, 2020, 02:51:48 AM
The biden have Plan to start working big places for BLM and for white people who is unemployed and un educated.
Like factories and Agricultural If its needed They Will Bring people from Other locations across the USA to Work in those places.
This is a familiar setting for me that I've watched from one documentary but it's from the other country that we hate the most, not mentioning what country is that but it's the hermit kingdom. This is what their government do as they send people to places to work but the difference is that the government earns from them while them, getting a tiny profit from their labor. A plan like this is always part of the campaign's platform but we shall see if it will be done as promised because this election is about to end.

Update: Blue 264 - Red 214
Those are just promises to attract the voters but this problem starts from the previous administrations and if they make work for them, expect for being underpaid. There's a lot of on-going with the current election, and it looks like Trump is questioning the voting system, well I hope the election to end smoothly so the market can recover, I see Oil pump after Trump claiming to win the campaign, I wonder what would be the market if Biden wins.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: TIDOVEE on November 05, 2020, 04:34:36 AM
Is this a system of campaign for biden? Well, however God wants it. The unemployed should also be in plan for our government be it educated or uneducated, even though the uneducated are in different levels, when they are settled , they don't become burden to other people and even problem to the government. God bless America.and God will make our president fufil their promises when they get there.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: Lorence.xD on November 05, 2020, 05:24:06 AM
The problem with the current situation in US in regards to unemployment is that most jobs are outsourced by companies in other countries that pays lower wages, if they make a move about that then I think they could arrive in an answer. They also should address their problems with the pandemic as this is the biggest factor right now that causes the spike in unemployment rates in their country. They also should increase minimum wages so workers can be motivated to work to their best of abilities which yields better results in product produced by the workers.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: Scripture on November 05, 2020, 05:29:37 AM
Better to give them an opportunity to learn than to feed them literally because many businesses will suffer if they get those uneducated people, I'm not discriminating them but the government should provide them ways to learn so its up to them whether to try or not at all and depend on the government alone. People wont succeed if they are just being feed by those opportunity, they must know how to work hard.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: Chrystora123 on November 05, 2020, 07:03:09 AM
for elections in the US, I strongly support Biden.  Trump has led the US for the last 4.5 years but he is very unfriendly to immigrants, blacks, cryptocurrencies, and also unemployed.  I hope that when elected, Biden will be able to carry out this political promise..

Is this a system of campaign for biden? Well, however God wants it. The unemployed should also be in plan for our government be it educated or uneducated, even though the uneducated are in different levels, when they are settled , they don't become burden to other people and even problem to the government. God bless America.and God will make our president fufil their promises when they get there.
unemployment is still the cause of rising crime rates, sex workers, robbers, gangsters, and drug dealers in almost all countries.  the government's attention in all countries must be devoted to the unemployed..


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: bits4books on November 05, 2020, 11:33:51 AM
Even to plow a field, you need at least some education-and sometimes quite good if you want to do something more than just plow a field.
Creating thousands of places for the uneducated population is certainly good but in the long run it will only worsen the situation. As for me, on the contrary, it is necessary to develop education for technical and applied specialists. This will allow you to raise the overall level of skill in the long game of the market and avoid the need to hire cheap manual labor - it is much more profitable to have 5 sowing machines and 5 drivers instead of 20 people without a driver's license and minimal knowledge, but with bags of seeds, isn't it?


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 05, 2020, 11:49:54 AM
The biden have Plan to start working big places for BLM and for white people who is unemployed and un educated.
Like factories and Agricultural If its needed They Will Bring people from Other locations across the USA to Work in those places.
If really it's his agenda, it's a welcomed development, because some of the previous leaders don't really have such intension to create agricultural sector that will enhance to help uneducated people, I know it's just a statement until he emerged fully, because politicians are made with attractive statements.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: verita1 on November 05, 2020, 12:16:24 PM
Biden's plan for higher education will be more affordable and will reduce tuition costs and offer people the opportunity to prepare for work quickly.
This is a plan that I find interesting and useful because it will benefit families with lower incomes and therefore a person who has a preparation for work will have better opportunities to achieve a good quality of life and contribute to the economy of her country.

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Biden’s plan to make two years of community college without debt will immediately offer individuals a way to become work-ready with a two-year degree or an industry certification.

https://joebiden.com/beyondhs/
 (https://joebiden.com/beyondhs/)


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: Johnyz on November 05, 2020, 01:04:17 PM
Biden's plan for higher education will be more affordable and will reduce tuition costs and offer people the opportunity to prepare for work quickly.
This is a plan that I find interesting and useful because it will benefit families with lower incomes and therefore a person who has a preparation for work will have better opportunities to achieve a good quality of life and contribute to the economy of her country.

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Biden’s plan to make two years of community college without debt will immediately offer individuals a way to become work-ready with a two-year degree or an industry certification.

https://joebiden.com/beyondhs/
 (https://joebiden.com/beyondhs/)
If we can maximize our years in college much better, school is just a training ground and the real battle is when you start working and living on your own. Biden has a better plan and with action, he can be the new president of USA but I think Trump will continue to fight until the last chance, well this is more exciting to see the voting numbers compare to last NBA season honestly.  :D


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: grabpopcorn536 on November 05, 2020, 04:21:37 PM
Biden's plan for higher education will be more affordable and will reduce tuition costs and offer people the opportunity to prepare for work quickly.
This is a plan that I find interesting and useful because it will benefit families with lower incomes and therefore a person who has a preparation for work will have better opportunities to achieve a good quality of life and contribute to the economy of her country.

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Biden’s plan to make two years of community college without debt will immediately offer individuals a way to become work-ready with a two-year degree or an industry certification.

https://joebiden.com/beyondhs/
 (https://joebiden.com/beyondhs/)
This plan looks good because it offers value to American citizens who are not able to study. Biden may bring companies back to the US and those taking part in Biden's planned training will have better job opportunities. This will bring more sustainable value than creating jobs from seasonal industries such as services, agriculture.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: carter34 on November 05, 2020, 04:49:56 PM
The biden have Plan to start working big places for BLM and for white people who is unemployed and un educated.
Like factories and Agricultural If its needed They Will Bring people from Other locations across the USA to Work in those places.
If really it's his agenda, it's a welcomed development, because some of the previous leaders don't really have such intension to create agricultural sector that will enhance to help uneducated people, I know it's just a statement until he emerged fully, because politicians are made with attractive statements.

There is difference in campaign promises and reality that the incoming will meet in the office which will reshape the promises ;D The difference that the American economy will see is that of change of political party in the president seat but let us wait few days for the eventual winner.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: dothebeats on November 05, 2020, 07:15:32 PM
Unemployment has been the biggest problem of the Americans since the start of this pandemic. Honestly, neither of this two candidates have expressed an elaborate plan to combat such, and they are all saying the same thing over and over again. Sending qualified people on another part of the country in order to work a certain job isn't going to fix this issue, as that could spell no jobs for people living on that same locality. Perhaps Biden or Trump could ask US companies to stop outsourcing too much job outside the US in order to give some for their American brethren, but then again they couldn't and wouldn't do that simply because it's not going to happen.

Biden's plan on making higher education accessible and more affordable is actually good, considering that most college students in the US drops out halfway of uni in order to avoid getting drowned with debt. It may also serve as an avenue for students to jumpstart their career provided that the company that they are eyeing on are okay with their qualifications. Trump, on the other hand, well I haven't seen much of his proposals and plans lately, but he is in strong support of giving back jobs to the American people though his way of doing it affects other races in the country, which is pretty frowned upon by a lot of people.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: darewaller on November 05, 2020, 08:25:39 PM
The biden have Plan to start working big places for BLM and for white people who is unemployed and un educated.
Like factories and Agricultural If its needed They Will Bring people from Other locations across the USA to Work in those places.
I’d go with what Gozie51 said, when it comes to unemployment, it’s not an issue that any government cannot fix, every government can fix it if they. Although I am not trying to say that what he’s trying to do is not a good plan, it’s a good plan, at least he’s going to do it and it will help to reduce the rate of unemployment in the US.

But, there are other issues that also needs to be focused on and I hope that he will also be able to handle those other issues, because if he doesn’t, then it will all be f***ed up. From what I noticed, a lot of people just want to vote Biden because they hate Trump, and not because they think he can do the job.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: el kaka22 on November 05, 2020, 08:29:59 PM
The "leopards eating my face party" and it is "I can't believe leopards ate MY face, it suppose to eat others I dislike!" voters of it. Republicans are not building an economy that saves the interests of the american people versus external threat, they are building an economy that helps the rich of the american people which you see in numbers as something good but even with everything looking good in the numbers the poor people of USA are still going towards becoming even more poor and even worse, which is the whole point of the discussion.

Biden or any other democrat will not suddenly start working with other nations to just screw USA over, they would gain absolutely nothing from that, but what they could do is take from super wealthy and help the poor get a better base level of life, which for some reason some Americans dislike.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: blockman on November 05, 2020, 09:07:31 PM
Those are just promises to attract the voters but this problem starts from the previous administrations and if they make work for them, expect for being underpaid. There's a lot of on-going with the current election, and it looks like Trump is questioning the voting system, well I hope the election to end smoothly so the market can recover, I see Oil pump after Trump claiming to win the campaign, I wonder what would be the market if Biden wins.
I'm only waiting for the elections to end and want to see whoever will win the presidency. I haven't noticed the pump for oil during the claim of Trump.
We don't know about Biden, but some are telling that it would be different this time and his administration would be totally different from the past.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: Silberman on November 09, 2020, 04:22:54 PM
The problem with the current situation in US in regards to unemployment is that most jobs are outsourced by companies in other countries that pays lower wages, if they make a move about that then I think they could arrive in an answer. They also should address their problems with the pandemic as this is the biggest factor right now that causes the spike in unemployment rates in their country. They also should increase minimum wages so workers can be motivated to work to their best of abilities which yields better results in product produced by the workers.
This is why solving this kind of problem is incredibly difficult, raising minimum wage sounds like an easy way to help people but business are on place for the benefit of their owner and not anyone else, if the minimum wage is raised many employees will be fired in order to reduce costs and those that are left will have to deal with greater responsibilities, this makes sense for the owner, after all now he is paying more to those employees, so how can we solve this? I do not know, if there was an easy answer it should have been implemented already.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: Yatsan on November 09, 2020, 07:13:36 PM
That is a great plan to be concluded for people in America have faced such great problem most specially this year that the rate of unemployment have come into an inflation due to temporary to permanent closure of business establishments all due because of the existing pandemic. Unemployment is not just an issue existing in the country of America but also it has been existent within the whole world and such resolution of eliminating unemployment always becomes a challenge to generations of administrations that up until now, many have still failed to do what they have said. Anyway, it is just a start off again for Biden for re-entering the government. Let us just all hope that is come back will give prosperity to US all with the use of his past experience handling a nation. May he fulfill what Trump have left and that must be favorable to the citizens and not with the government alone.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: usekevin on November 13, 2020, 07:58:24 PM
The biden have Plan to start working big places for BLM and for white people who is unemployed and un educated.
Like factories and Agricultural If its needed They Will Bring people from Other locations across the USA to Work in those places.


It will be a good initiative.The pandemic create a unemployment in US also.It's seems a wondering thing,because many of the people in the world is working for the American client to get a good money as a salary.Migrating people to work available places would be a better option for the country economy and in turn world economy.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: Nhebu on November 13, 2020, 11:31:07 PM
I don't think this is a big problem that USA needs to deal. If we are going to look for statistics, developed countries have lesser unemployment rate compared to what third world countries have. If there could be a modification for Biden's administration, it should be the reforestation and preserving natural resources. As we can see, California and amazon (before) is on fire. They should protect the forest by planting it again.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: justdimin on November 14, 2020, 04:51:48 AM
I just don’t get some people to be sincere; I am seeing in the comments that some people are saying that unemployment is not a big issue, and shouldn’t be something that a candidate should use in fronting their opponent. Lol like for real, unemployment is not an issue?

Well, if it’s not a big issue and it’s something that any government can fix, then why do they choose to neglect the fact that there are so many people who are unemployed in their country? That shows that they don’t care about the people they are leading, and that makes them the wrong choice. Do you prefer people to be unemployed and begging on the street? I bet if you’re unemployed, you wouldn’t be saying the same thing.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: bits4books on November 14, 2020, 06:46:00 AM
I just don’t get some people to be sincere; I am seeing in the comments that some people are saying that unemployment is not a big issue, and shouldn’t be something that a candidate should use in fronting their opponent. Lol like for real, unemployment is not an issue?

Well, if it’s not a big issue and it’s something that any government can fix, then why do they choose to neglect the fact that there are so many people who are unemployed in their country? That shows that they don’t care about the people they are leading, and that makes them the wrong choice. Do you prefer people to be unemployed and begging on the street? I bet if you’re unemployed, you wouldn’t be saying the same thing.

Perhaps the thing is that if we look at the statistics of the unemployed we can see some uncomfortable numbers for some people?
Or that it is profitable for some people to keep other people unemployed and on benefits so that they in turn vote for the right people in the elections.
The only problem is that the money for benefits is not infinite and it will not be possible to raise taxes indefinitely-one day there will come a time when working people will understand this total deception of themselves and then…
If yesterday some right people broke the Windows of the wrong stores, tomorrow people will take the white house with the US Constitution in their hands - and they will be more right than ever.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: jaysabi on November 14, 2020, 08:17:13 AM
Unemployment is not the big issue for US that any government can't fix or it has been a recurrent issue even during Obama. So fronting it as a challenge in Trump administration isn't going to make Biden look better either.

The issue America is going to face in the upcoming administration for four years tenure is that of insurgence, terrorism, external aggression and trade walls. Now, having these challenges in mind in my opinion and looking at the both political parties, both candidate and including their political and personal orientation, who do you think can better get support to fight American external interest ?

Remember the Republican and Democrat have different views and agenda, so a Republican candidate can better protect America and the sanity of the world better. I think Trump can have the sympathy of the American electorate.

Lol, nothing Trump has done in his life has been out of sympathy or empathy and he’s led republicans down a hard rightward path into extreme nationalism and xenophobia. That all the republicans fell in line behind an extreme nationalistic agenda shows that there is no such thing as a moderate republican anymore. This will be the new normal now for the republicans.  They can’t appeal to moderates anymore so they’ll unabashedly court the racists and uneducated poor to cling to their dwindling political power base. They lose the national vote routinely and are outvoted in state legislatures across the country, and only through extreme gerrymandering and voter suppression do they continue to win races. They’re the clear minority party, and after seeing what they do with their political power when they have it, thank god.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: palle11 on November 14, 2020, 08:32:18 AM
Is this a system of campaign for biden? Well, however God wants it. The unemployed should also be in plan for our government be it educated or uneducated, even though the uneducated are in different levels, when they are settled , they don't become burden to other people and even problem to the government. God bless America.and God will make our president fufil their promises when they get there.

The difference between your country and American is that America is very democratic. The institutions in the America are working properly to the better life of Americans. The system takes care of her citizens home and outside. It has the data of her people and making plans for them isn't an issue . So if you are comparing, you have to understand that.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: AniviaBtc on November 14, 2020, 09:00:32 AM
Trump is the reason why unemployment in US increased in the past few months during this pandemic.

Including those overseas workers became unemployed because of him and that's the difference that Biden can bring to the people. He can bring back and strengthen employment and make the economy grow back again and maybe that's the key for him in winning this election. His advocacy and plans for United States is really far compared to Trump and I think this will be a good sign that US will grow again.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: Taskford on November 14, 2020, 12:21:46 PM
Is this a system of campaign for biden? Well, however God wants it. The unemployed should also be in plan for our government be it educated or uneducated, even though the uneducated are in different levels, when they are settled , they don't become burden to other people and even problem to the government. God bless America.and God will make our president fufil their promises when they get there.

Why you say such thing while government doesn't control the minds of their citizens provably the one who have a problem if they are unemployed is their selves since government programs are their given to their citizens and no president want his men to be unemployed since for sure this is a big threat on economy and it's a big shame especially in the US.

And don't just rely on the president promise since some of them are words thrown just to make them colorful and work hard without relying on someone since we are the one who can help ourselves here.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: FanEagle on November 14, 2020, 02:29:40 PM
What governments can't handle in unemployment is the fact that if you start governmental job positions, federal jobs guarantee and similar stuff a lot of people see it as communism and all around the world the word communism is seen as something bad.

I don't know who did PR for capitalism and who did PR for communism but for some reason when you talk about capitalism everyone loves it and thinks it is Hollywood movies rich people whereas when you talk about communism it is poor people under dictatorship.

Whereas democratic socialism is just in the middle and managed to make a ton of name for being the best nations in the world run by it, yet even getting close to it will make people call you communist instead of understanding what you want is not china or Russia, but more like Scandinavia. In the end unemployment can't be fixed unless people realize they have to vote for what is best for them.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: FlightyPouch on November 14, 2020, 02:52:57 PM
That is a great plan in my opinion, a lot of people would really kill for a job right now and I hope that would be implemented as soon as possible as it will not just help the people but the country as well. We should also emphasize that we still have a pandemic right now and there are still some problems that needed to be prioritized.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: chip1994 on November 14, 2020, 03:26:31 PM
The biden have Plan to start working big places for BLM and for white people who is unemployed and un educated.
Like factories and Agricultural If its needed They Will Bring people from Other locations across the USA to Work in those places.
This is a pretty good plan, but it still has its weaknesses.  Why only training for unemployed whites?  What about non-white people? This strategy can indirectly create political chaos in the coming time. Then surely if Covid 19 has not been treated, the case will increase if they make a demonstration. I don't feel that this policy is good enough, it needs to improve humanity and not show racism.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: Ludmilla_rose1995 on November 14, 2020, 06:18:24 PM
the Biden concept is pretty good. maybe it will reduce the unemployment rate in the US. although they would be put to work in the fields, it would at least require expertise. How can someone without an education do something they don't understand? In my opinion, working without skills will make things worse.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: iamsheikhadil on November 14, 2020, 08:27:04 PM
I think Biden won't be able to produce what he is promising. Thing is, there are not many jobs a person can do if they are uneducated because of the rise of technology that is eliminating most of human resources. And hence, it makes sense why more and more people are losing jobs. Jobs will be so rare in upcoming days globally!


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: DrG on November 14, 2020, 09:55:20 PM
As my mother taught in a very large university here in Los Angeles, I don't think many of you understand that it was the government's hand in the education system that made it so unaffordable. The government made the whole loan system and colleges saw they could keep increasing tuition costs as long as loans allowed kids to pursue education at the expense of massive debt. College is essentially a talking, writing and reading endeavor. There are no real material costs considering the availability of online "print" - the "textbook" only costs whatever the publisher/author are willing to sell it at for rights as there's so little cost with an eBook.

The major cost of "higher levels of learning" is the whole advertising the schools do, their sports program and the whole prestige aspect. If you took all that nonsense away, a professor making $150K/year could take a year off of some real world work to teach a class of 30 students (let's assume the students don't change for simplicity). That equals $5k/yr per student. Figure at most $1k for books and if it's a science based class another $1k for materials. USC and Harvard charging $60K/yr - there's some real cheating going on and it's not the students. The whole system is a scam.

We should just go back to trade schools and apprenticeships for the masses. Spending $250K in 4 years while putting out no product only to make an extra $10K/yr over 25 years - what are these people expecting?

Biden will only increase that teacher pay to even higher levels - paid for by taxpayers.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: HabBear on November 14, 2020, 09:59:56 PM
The biden have Plan to start working big places for BLM and for white people who is unemployed and un educated.

No, for all people. For all people of all races, all Americans...probably some immigrants too. I'd expect the Biden team to remove some of the work visa restrictions put in place by Trump. There's a lot of work to be done in America, a lot of work to be done by a lot of people from a lot of different educational and socioeconomic backgrounds.

And personally, education is the biggest issue for America to resolve...to fix the foolish trust placed in "fake news" and the lies that spread through facebook accounts. America needs to teach its people how to think critically again.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: jaysabi on November 14, 2020, 11:21:46 PM
As my mother taught in a very large university here in Los Angeles, I don't think many of you understand that it was the government's hand in the education system that made it so unaffordable. The government made the whole loan system and colleges saw they could keep increasing tuition costs as long as loans allowed kids to pursue education at the expense of massive debt. College is essentially a talking, writing and reading endeavor. There are no real material costs considering the availability of online "print" - the "textbook" only costs whatever the publisher/author are willing to sell it at for rights as there's so little cost with an eBook.

The major cost of "higher levels of learning" is the whole advertising the schools do, their sports program and the whole prestige aspect. If you took all that nonsense away, a professor making $150K/year could take a year off of some real world work to teach a class of 30 students (let's assume the students don't change for simplicity). That equals $5k/yr per student. Figure at most $1k for books and if it's a science based class another $1k for materials. USC and Harvard charging $60K/yr - there's some real cheating going on and it's not the students. The whole system is a scam.

We should just go back to trade schools and apprenticeships for the masses. Spending $250K in 4 years while putting out no product only to make an extra $10K/yr over 25 years - what are these people expecting?

Biden will only increase that teacher pay to even higher levels - paid for by taxpayers.

While you're on the right track with the fact that government subsidizing student loans has led to a huge increase in the cost of tuition because it creates inelastic demand, it's simply wrong to say that the main costs of colleges are advertising and sports programs. Colleges have huge administrative cost and the cost of professors is probably the largest expense items, as well as all the other staff-related costs. And the sports programs are huge sources of revenue for big colleges, so it's not like all that money they consume comes from tuition. Most large football programs subsidize the cost of all the other unprofitable sports programs.

By the way, the president has nothing to do with college teacher pay. None whatsoever.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: aesma on November 14, 2020, 11:27:03 PM
As my mother taught in a very large university here in Los Angeles, I don't think many of you understand that it was the government's hand in the education system that made it so unaffordable. The government made the whole loan system and colleges saw they could keep increasing tuition costs as long as loans allowed kids to pursue education at the expense of massive debt. College is essentially a talking, writing and reading endeavor. There are no real material costs considering the availability of online "print" - the "textbook" only costs whatever the publisher/author are willing to sell it at for rights as there's so little cost with an eBook.

Indeed, here in France universities are public and costs are very low. Students pay almost nothing, but even for the state the costs aren't major, just a bit higher than high school, basically. So about 5000€/year.

Private schools (mostly commerce schools) charge something like 7000€/year and people find that expensive already.

The prices in the US are totally ridiculous.

However I think for "uneducated people" they can get a high school diploma, then go to a community college, in the US, no ?


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: eaLiTy on November 14, 2020, 11:31:38 PM
The election is not yet ended but when it comes to sending uneducated and unemployment into the agricultural sector could also be a good idea.
however, people will not actually follow the instruction. They must adapt to the new things. It can't be done easily.
If the government is able to attract the unemployed youth in the agricultural sector by providing subsidy and readily available of loans with less interest rates to start their business then it is possible they could attract people who are willing to do something productive rather than looking for ways to make easy money dealing with illegal goods. It is a hard task and it will take a long time for these policies and plans to work smoothly.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: jaysabi on November 15, 2020, 01:52:20 AM
As my mother taught in a very large university here in Los Angeles, I don't think many of you understand that it was the government's hand in the education system that made it so unaffordable. The government made the whole loan system and colleges saw they could keep increasing tuition costs as long as loans allowed kids to pursue education at the expense of massive debt. College is essentially a talking, writing and reading endeavor. There are no real material costs considering the availability of online "print" - the "textbook" only costs whatever the publisher/author are willing to sell it at for rights as there's so little cost with an eBook.

Indeed, here in France universities are public and costs are very low. Students pay almost nothing, but even for the state the costs aren't major, just a bit higher than high school, basically. So about 5000€/year.

Private schools (mostly commerce schools) charge something like 7000€/year and people find that expensive already.

The prices in the US are totally ridiculous.

However I think for "uneducated people" they can get a high school diploma, then go to a community college, in the US, no ?

Yes, you can cut down on the cost of college by attending a community college for a couple years to get the general education requirements completed before finishing an advanced degree at a university.  Community college's often don't offer the type of advanced degrees you would get at a university, so it's difficult to finish a degree there.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: thesmallgod on November 16, 2020, 06:31:13 AM
If not for the Covid19, USA unemployment rate has always been low even during the time of the Barack Obama. I think America voted for Biden based on sentiment and also dislike for Trump. Biden to me look very reserve and you hardly going to know what is going to do until he start working as president. Americans will have to cope with insecurity, high increase in illegal immigrant etc. for the next 4 years especially if Mr Biden lifted the ban on some of the countries Trump had ban.



Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: ReiMomo on November 16, 2020, 09:27:24 PM
I don't think that the concern here is, who is the politician or the best candidate for the presidency instead it is all about livelihood, employment rate, and since BLM was also mentioned then the race can be another thing to be discussed.

Going back to the topic, regardless of whose president but putting into action the platform on livelihood for unemployed and uneducated citizens is necessary not only in the US but to other countries as well and this move of Biden already shows he is already starting to make his promises into reality.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: sheenshane on November 16, 2020, 10:36:48 PM
If not for the Covid19, USA unemployment rate has always been low even during the time of the Barack Obama. I think America voted for Biden based on sentiment and also dislike for Trump. Biden to me look very reserve and you hardly going to know what is going to do until he start working as president. Americans will have to cope with insecurity, high increase in illegal immigrant etc. for the next 4 years especially if Mr Biden lifted the ban on some of the countries Trump had ban.
Unemployment is a recurring issue that every country is facing whatever country it is.  Neither Trump nor Biden can hardly end this unemployment unless if the citizens would simply settle in this program.  Bringing these folks to a different location IMO isn't bad at all instead of relying on the support they are getting from the government then it will be better to gamble and try their luck in other places which might possibly give them a positive outcome in the future.

In this case, we just need to wait if these promises made by Biden will be put into action once he took the presidency from Trump because this still remains as plan until we will be able to see the outcome by 2021.

Anyway, thank you for showing that graphs, it's proven that there's something in the Trump administration.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: AndySt on November 16, 2020, 10:55:40 PM
I don't think that the concern here is, who is the politician or the best candidate for the presidency instead it is all about livelihood, employment rate, and since BLM was also mentioned then the race can be another thing to be discussed.
Going back to the topic, regardless of whose president but putting into action the platform on livelihood for unemployed and uneducated citizens is necessary not only in the US but to other countries as well and this move of Biden already shows he is already starting to make his promises into reality.
We will be able to talk about Biden's real steps only after the inauguration takes place and the newly elected President takes office, and we can only talk about plans for this. Although of course it is correct that this issue of social justice has started to be raised because it is wrong when entire racial and ethno-cultural segments of the population have less opportunities to earn money for their daily bread. The most important thing is not to infringe on the rights of another part of the population in order to restore justice,because this will not be quite fair.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: DrG on November 17, 2020, 01:42:57 AM
As my mother taught in a very large university here in Los Angeles, I don't think many of you understand that it was the government's hand in the education system that made it so unaffordable. The government made the whole loan system and colleges saw they could keep increasing tuition costs as long as loans allowed kids to pursue education at the expense of massive debt. College is essentially a talking, writing and reading endeavor. There are no real material costs considering the availability of online "print" - the "textbook" only costs whatever the publisher/author are willing to sell it at for rights as there's so little cost with an eBook.

The major cost of "higher levels of learning" is the whole advertising the schools do, their sports program and the whole prestige aspect. If you took all that nonsense away, a professor making $150K/year could take a year off of some real world work to teach a class of 30 students (let's assume the students don't change for simplicity). That equals $5k/yr per student. Figure at most $1k for books and if it's a science based class another $1k for materials. USC and Harvard charging $60K/yr - there's some real cheating going on and it's not the students. The whole system is a scam.

We should just go back to trade schools and apprenticeships for the masses. Spending $250K in 4 years while putting out no product only to make an extra $10K/yr over 25 years - what are these people expecting?

Biden will only increase that teacher pay to even higher levels - paid for by taxpayers.

While you're on the right track with the fact that government subsidizing student loans has led to a huge increase in the cost of tuition because it creates inelastic demand, it's simply wrong to say that the main costs of colleges are advertising and sports programs. Colleges have huge administrative cost and the cost of professors is probably the largest expense items, as well as all the other staff-related costs. And the sports programs are huge sources of revenue for big colleges, so it's not like all that money they consume comes from tuition. Most large football programs subsidize the cost of all the other unprofitable sports programs.

By the way, the president has nothing to do with college teacher pay. None whatsoever.

I know just how much college professors make as my mother was one. They don't really start draining the system until they're tenured and then their pay exceeds that of the POTUS is many cases and they receive state pension for teaching at state schools like UCLA and Berkley. That insane pay is not a result of output - those professors are making that money off prestiging - bringing in money from old alumni. My wife's good friend donated $5 million to U of W dental school and was saddened when the school spent it on building a low income clinic... in Bellevue, WA lol. Basically it was a handout for free money to ivory tower clinicians. There are no poor people in Bellevue going to that clinic - such a pork project - but it's a beautiful building.

The lowly professor teaching the classes at UCLA filled with 100 to 350 students at a time is only making about $100/hour. The only reason they keep at that cheap rate is to hopefully get tenure where they can milk the system of state taxpayers. It's not a merit based system.

The only reason you think the sports programs make money from the school is that the school advertises it as such. In reality, when you look at all the cheating that is done by the athletic programs it becomes apparent that they steal tuition. Football players using disabled placards. Priority access to classes for athletes. Discounted meal and housing for athletes. New construction of athletic training/playing facilities that don't have enough income from ticket sales to offset the cost of the construction and property taxes. At UCLA, for example, the new tennis stadium still has not been paid for by more than 32% after 10 years. The budget for planning and environmental studies for the project actually came from the general fund so that wasn't even ticketed in the cost. I know people who work at UCLA in the athletic departments and this is how I know this. You can find articles about similar stories if you dig deep enough, but usually the front page on the newspaper talks about how great the sports teams are for the schools. Remember newspapers and print media make quite a bit from collegiate sports, it's in their interest to feed their narrative. The coaches and managers at universities are usually the highest paid entities in the school and it even makes news on the aforementioned media. You rarely see them putting on the front page stories about their alumni achieving scientific breakthroughs. Let me know when Goodenough becomes as famous as Pete Carroll or John Wooden.

If you think the POTUS has nothing to do with college teacher pay then that's your prerogative. Ultimately the POTUS does pick a cabinet member that become sec of education and that sec determines K-12 schooling agenda which does influence college level pay as well as union and lobbying efforts. California Teacher Association is the largest lobbyist in the US and they vote with one party almost on a 1:1 basis. To think that college professors don't align themselves the same way as K-12 teacher unions - well I guess you've been gone from the school tenure narrative for 70 years. Nothing will get between a teacher and their pension - not even a rape or child molestation conviction. You say something to the contrary and you will be beaten up in the media like the 200 pound 3rd grader sitting on other 3rd graders over by the tether-ball courts. Only in a society where teachers are held to sainthood can a teacher who feeds semen laced cookies to kids be defended by the teacher union that's supposed to protect kids. That narrative carries all the way up to colleges.

BTW all my kids teachers in public school make approximately 30% more than an urgent care physician on a per hour basis. $90/hr for urgent care at Kaiser in California. $118/hr for my kids teachers in K-6.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: proTECH77 on November 17, 2020, 04:00:54 AM
Joe Biden government will be more better than Donald Trump government, where terrorist and corona virus were keep rising in the country, that was causing fear to the life of the citizens in the country. With the promise Joe Biden made, during his campaign rally concerning uneducated and unemployment, he said he will put an end to it, if he is elected as a US president come November 3. Joe Biden was declared winner for the US presidential election that took place on 3rd of November that make Biden to pulled 306 vote to defeat his incumbent Donald Trump who pulled 230 for the concluded election.
Joe Biden will do everything possible to improve US economy and also improve in the areas of education, by building more schools that will create more employment for the graduate in the country and a good learning center for the citizens. Many scholarship will be giving to some students, to go any country of their choice to study and also sponsor some students to any school of their choice without payment till he or she graduate from the school.
US citizens love Joe Biden very well, that is why they gave him a massive vote during the election because they believe that him will be more better than Donald Trump in the areas of creating employment for the youths in the country and also to improve all their digital learning center in the country.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: slapper on November 17, 2020, 07:22:14 AM
The biden have Plan to start working big places for BLM and for white people who is unemployed and un educated.

No, for all people. For all people of all races, all Americans...probably some immigrants too. I'd expect the Biden team to remove some of the work visa restrictions put in place by Trump. There's a lot of work to be done in America, a lot of work to be done by a lot of people from a lot of different educational and socioeconomic backgrounds.

And personally, education is the biggest issue for America to resolve...to fix the foolish trust placed in "fake news" and the lies that spread through facebook accounts. America needs to teach its people how to think critically again.
Visa restriction is important. You cant deny the benefits of it. Only people who live outside the US territory want it to be removed. If I a US citizen, I will definitely put my country above all and force illegal immigrations to move out the country. You cant trust all of them although maybe they only want to change their life. Those peole are likely to avoid tax, sell drugs or involve with terrorism

Education is also an issue. It is a foundation of a whole country driving both economy and politic. You cant stop the fake news. Even big media tries to spread rumours and lies about the incumbent President - Donald Trump. Though, I believe Biden will know how to meliorate the current belief of the US citizens and enhance the education system for the much better future


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: davinchi on November 18, 2020, 02:48:19 PM
People think that just because of corona the unemployment went up a lot (record breaking for a long period of time) but that is not the case only, it was also not recovering fast enough that costed a lot more jobs to be lost and not rehired.

It was always expected that many people would have lost their jobs during a pandemic, nobody could deny that you would lose your job during pandemic and president is not responsible for it, but where Trump lost voters (which wasn't much if you look at election results, dude got second highest vote ever in history) we can say that it was the recovery period where Trump could have done a lot more to stop Covid spread and he didn't which caused a lot of jobs to be lost, a lot of business' to be closed and that was the period where people blamed him.


Title: Re: Working plans for uneducated unemplyement people in USA
Post by: Kakmakr on November 18, 2020, 02:59:46 PM
How is this in any way connected to Bitcoin?

It would have been fine if Biden said that he would create "work-from-home" jobs linked to Crypto currencies, but that is not the case here.  ::)

Even though I am not a big supporter of both Trump and Biden for different reasons, I still think Trump did a lot for the USA citizens with all the trade restrictions that was implemented. It forced the USA to create work opportunities for things that was previously imported. Yes, it had a negative side too.. because some exported goods and services was negatively influenced from the counter restrictions that was implemented from China.

Whatever is said during elections should never be taken seriously .... rather look at the actions that happens after the elections.. to judge these politicians.  ;)