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A signature campaign thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285933.0) was posted just days ago; specifically, a campaign promoting the cryptocurrency "Bitcoin HEX".

If you didn't know by now, HEX is founded by one of the highly controversial(with good reason) "cRyPtO iNfLuEnCeRs" named Richard Heart.

In summary, it's pretty much just a get rich scheme to enrich the founder. Personally, I wouldn't necessarily dislike the project if it was just created and advertised as a fun experiment, with a 1:1 snapshot of the Bitcoin blockchain. This one though? Nope. Though you could claim these "HEX" tokens by signing a message using your bitcoin wallet, well, the founder conducted an ICO for obvious reasons.. and that's just the tip of the iceberg.


Now, obviously I don't necessarily condone joining signature campaigns(because I'm obviously in one) unless you're a spammer; but you might want to carefully pick what you're going to promote if you were to join one.

If you want to dig deeper:

• https://medium.com/@TooWumboToFail/under-a-hex-396847b86e57 | (Reddit Discussion (https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/e7u1gz/buyer_beware_a_detailed_write_up_on_richard/))
• https://news.bitcoin.com/andreas-antonopoulos-hex-team-offered-me-10-btc-to-speak-well-of-their-token/ | (Reddit Discussion (https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/i98p9i/andreas_antonpolous_ive_been_offered_10btc_to_do/))
• https://web.archive.org/web/20200216042124/https://www.ccn.com/psa-spam-king-web-criminal-crypto-hex-founder/ (shame to CCN for taking this article down)
• https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/79y40b/scammer_alert_you_know_the_narcissist_guy_who/

Happy hodling! (of BTC, obviously), and congratulations.

https://i.imgur.com/ZUay2C0.png

If you mean the latest signature campaign, I've read here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285951) that it's not endorsed by Richard Heart so it may be a scam.
Also from my (small) knowledge on HEX, even if one tries now to get free HEX now, he'll get under 10% of what he would have received one year ago. Of course one can argue that 10% of 0 equals 100% of 0, but that's another point  ;D

So from what I understand the only ones that'll earn anything would be those offering ref links. But I don't know if/how good will they be able to sell their earning and I somehow doubt that this can cover paying for signature wearers.

But maybe I'm missing something...

Taking a look at their signatures, though I don't see any referral links, it could just simply be a campaign for popularity(and obviously to gain token buyers).

There's more shadiness to this than just the referral links. Take a few minutes and take a look at their website (hex.com).

Aren't all alt coins? Can't say I've heard of this one though or think I've seen their signatures.

I mean yea of course. But this is a special case of shadiness, multiple times worse in my opinion due to their extra shady marketing; pretty much at the same level of those scammy investment sites.

As for their signatures, I only saw two in this one thread[1], hence why I looked for their campaign topic.

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[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286807

I would give you the well-meant advice not to do it...
I'm almost sure that there are just some people lurking to tag someone red, on the grounds that you would take part in a scam and advertise it. And they might even be right about that...

In addition, this campaign would be so very unclear to me, and I prefer to not apply there at the slightest doubt
So much money it is now also not. Apart from that, the campaign will only last 4 weeks, I think!

I don't have to. There were plenty of signals on how shady the HEX project is from the days it was launched. Although it's not proven to be scam or not, I know (for myself) it's just a scheme.
My point was that the signature wearers may actually not get paid at all. And @SiNeReiNZzz point is also very good: they may actually get tagged too.
Especially in the altcoins area people still join bounties head first.  ::)

Nonetheless, there are always people willing to join these types of schemes and then regret. People are ignorant. Even we are ignorant too. We can't erase that in our minds. This is why I am always vigilant, as many projects around the forum have already exited scam. Raise your awareness and be responsible for your own wallet


And for your information, there has been an official campaign on our altcoin board: 🔴[BOUNTY DETECTIVE]🔴HEX SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN $15,000 WORTH OF HEX REWARD POOL 🔴 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286632.0)

The thread which was created by a newbie is confirmed as a fake campaign which contains a ref link

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I have just made some research. It is quite interesting that this token is listed on coinmakercap and Hex has gained a huge bull recently

https://i.imgur.com/5gV99jC.png


Definitely, I will make a deep analysis of this token by myself

AS I saw the campaign manager said that he/she will start to accept the participants from Wednesday. But this is Thursday did the manager started to accept? I can not see any update from the manager even the spreadsheet. so Just forget about his campaign, It will not run a week IMO,4 weeks is far away.  :)

Btw there are many participants lately withdrew their application from that signature campaign thread, I think it only for people thought the payment is not secured, not a problem with the project. Because yesterday another signature campaign (token payment), people are joining without hesitation. LOL

It is going up, at least for now. The thing though is, it has a liquidity problem — a sort of artificial one; because the token holders are incentivized to lock up the funds to earn interest, hence probably why it's going to be easier to prop up the market price. They cant just sell the tokens whenever they want(or use the tokens for anything else lol), because they'll be penalized if they sort of "unlock" the tokens if I remember correctly.

It's clear it's FAKE I don't know why newbie accounts do this do they want to cheat with multiple participants?
It is clear that there will be no renewal, he is no longer active and it is impossible to pay large amounts of participants.
An official campaign has been organized by Bounty Detective and he also handled the HEX manager on the previous bounty.

What matters a lot is that HEX is tricking people a lot with some kind of ponzi scheme and some say it won't last 1-2 years at most. Could it be?

I have never held a HEX token out of doubt that many catches here.

Participants don't care about the identity of the HEX token or anything even though it is hated by the community, because they will get BTC as payment. They don't think it's risky at all about the price of their salary.

But, this will be a new promotional scam concept, free promotions for at least a few days tricking unlimited higher rank participants who are starving with BTC paid campaigns. Scammers create an account on behalf of or resemble a certain project, then opening a signature campaign on the forum with the most expensive BTC payments (who cares) and the admission selection schedule is longer while the project owner doesn't admit that it's official.

Then participants started joining and waking up their sleeping alts to join without hesitation. Start wearing signatures and posting early for a greater chance of getting accepted. This kind of scam only deceives blind people about scam warning, I feel sorry for them but chuckled.

Pretty much. Though I really can't blame them that much(because poverty and all that), but still. Just made this topic as a quick PSA that hopefully they try joining the decently reputable ones instead, and also as a quick PSA for people who doesn't know how shady HEX is.

Two different campaigns for HEX. One is run by a strange user with payment in bitcoin and with high rates. Another one is run by BountyDetective and payment will be in HEX tokens.

I see many participants wear HEX signature and don't see any tags on them. Only BountyDetective was tagged. Is the campaign accepted by scam detectives? For participants, a neutral tag can be considered.

Technically speaking, by established norms for determining such, HEX is not a scam. It is, however, a giant shit token, and this picture is all you need to know about what it does. The only thing you can really do with HEX is hope other people buy it at a higher price than you so you can sell it to them. Let's not fool ourselves: this is the case with many cryptocurrencies, but if the end goal of creating something is to profit from it then that thing doesn't necessarily have any value at all.

Its smart contract uses a novel algorithm for generating interest when staking, but other than that it is completely useless.

So, join the HEX sig campaign if you must, but knowing who Richard Heart is and what he's all about, I wouldn't expect any sort of payment in return. Seems like a needless gamble to me, but that's just me.

I think it is unnecessary (tag neutral) to the participants of the HEX signature campaign.  I agree with what @nutildah said, HEX is not a scam but shittoken (like many other shittoken).  all we can do right now is just monitoring how the HEX campaign is progressing.  if it ends in disappointment then it is likely that Bounty Detective will get another red flag..

Sure, a lot more of a scheme like what NeuroticFish said. Hence why I didn't use the word "scam" even once on the main topic. (take note that I originally posted this in the Meta section, this just got moved by a mod/admin).

As for Richard Heart, if he actually funded a signature campaign, I'd actually think he would pay due to potentially how much money he have made through this scheme anyway. If anything, paying for a campaign might be just pennies for him. But in this industry, he's probably one of the last people I'd like to support.

Richard doesnt like what people say about HEX here on bitcointalk so he decided to buy that support with money.  Hhampuz just started Hex signature campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289201.0) and many others are joining the campaign. Some of them even said in this topic that Hex is ponzi, but when they saw payrate and who is managing it, they changed their mind. What is next, BSV signature campaign? :D

I don't think "support" or changing people's mind is what the HEX people want to achieve here at all. I think they just want to potentially try to convince a small number of people that they could potentially convince to their scheme. That, or just for backlinks and clicks for their links.

I just want to point out that before the latest signature campaign, Richard tried to buy ad slots to advertise HEX here but the forum admin rejected all that.

I had to enable signature just to see who you're referring to.
They don't want HEX token but they want the BTC paid by the main man behind HEX token?
Perhaps HEX is now loved by the community because it's handled by a different manager?

Paid in BTC? Yes why not? hehehe.

Well, I don't think Hhampuz would take this campaign if he hadn't already received funds to pay campaign participants. So while I'm not exactly happy to see such a wanton moneygrab being advertised via signature on the forum, at least there is a quality control element that only Hhampuz and a select handful of others can provide.

Eh, maybe.  The quickest example that comes to mind is Dash, but I have to say that some altcoins would work much better as a method to buy and sell things than good ol' bitcoin, whether they were made to enrich the devs or not--so they're not all useless or worthless IMO.

I've never heard of this Hex thing either, and since I have signatures blocked I haven't seen any advertising from its campaigners.

I agree, and I've also voiced my opinion that the campaign manager shouldn't be held responsible if the project turns out to be a scam.  And it's not like this would be the first signature campaign that's advertised something shady--we've had plenty of that over the years involving a number of campaign managers (or the absence of one in the case of Secondstrade and the first Yobit campaign).

But this is at least a guarantee that participants who take part in this campaign will be paid in full in the first week, and I think this will only run for 1 week according to what Hhampuz said, it's true Hex only buys votes from bitcointalk with high payrates so that it can To divert the issue at issue here, Hex is still controversial in my opinion because it says the Ponzi scheme is right by providing high annual rewards.

After having read the HEX "layman's guide," there's a couple different ways to approach defining what HEX is:

1. HEX is not a Ponzi scheme as it will always pay out what the terms of staking dictate (whereas Ponzis always eventually collapse and stop paying). It's also not a MLM per se as it only has 1 level of referrals.

2. HEX is a Ponzi scheme because it requires an ever-increasing influx of new users in order to keep the price growing, or just stable. Those already in will constantly try to recruit new holders to prop the price up.

If you choose to go with #2, well then you have to account for the fact that most (if not all) cryptocurrencies are at least somewhat inflationary and require word-of-mouth in order to attract new investors (aka, people to sell your bags to).

The difference between HEX and most other cryptos is that HEX does not purport to do anything other than go up in value. It has no plans to be a means of currency; after all, Ethereum already does that, and if people want a currency they would just use ETH as they need it to transact HEX (an ETH token) anyway.

Final assessment: HEX is a worthless shit token led by a douchebag, but it is not a scam.

Probably the situation is pretty much change now. When those under the bounty detectives campaign these guys could be tagged for promoting a scam one. But since there is a campaign launch via service section, does it mean there is no conflict anymore?

Bit agree with nutildah in this statement.

Hex maybe sounded like a scam maybe in the inside and concept but people might misinterpret shitcoin from it. There are plenty of projects like this out there. If its indeed scam I dont think they could last up to now.

Hahha, maybe. I hope it would be managed by theymos, I'll consider joining. And opponents wouldn't talk about it much.

But I wouldn't cynical anyone who joins the HEX campaign, this kind of phenomenon has existed before (I don't need to mention, y'all already know ;)). I also don't wanna make sure that I won't join a campaign I hated before one day. After all, I haven't come across any HEX victims who've reported losing money so far on this forum. Hex is only trying once again to make a good image with prestigious campaing, but it will still be determined by people's judgment.

It is true that there have been no victims so far, it means that HEX is still proving to its fans that it continues to make good profits. This is not my purchase, but as far as I know, a lot of news is only from articles, do you believe in this forum or from articles?

Let them with the freedom of choice participate in the campaign if they don't like it and know for sure they won't.
I know the HEX price increases so high in such a short time.

Looks like some the original money put in has been unlocked.

11:30 AM EST on 17-Nov

https://i.imgur.com/N6Ie7Osl.png (https://imgur.com/N6Ie7Os)

2:00 PM EST on 17-Nov

https://i.imgur.com/ZkV4Zecl.png (https://imgur.com/ZkV4Zec)

I think more and more is going to be coming out of stakes in the next few days too.
Going to be an interesting drop to the bottom.

Is it going straight down or will there be a bounce?

-Dave

It bounced back a little. It's currently at -14.5% looking at the data on Coingecko.
I actually looked if it's on CMC's top 30 biggest losers before checking the price but it wasn't there hehe.

You will probably get tons of "constructive" response if you post this in the altcoin speculation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=224.0

So many gains this year and the haters continue to hate. When will they ever learn? 5 cents? 10 cents? 50 cents? $1?

Imagine being such a bitcoin maxi that you miss out the biggest gains of your life.

Hex has so many layers of complexity and game theory that your simple minds can't understand how revolutionary it is for cryptocurrency.

Hex has two security audits while bitcoin has had zero. Bitcoin has had TWO INFLATION bugs and luckily a bitcoin cash developer disclosed the 2nd one. Instead of paying miners to dump on your heads HEX pays stakers who don't dump on everyones heads.

And the 1st airdrop people were able to sell about an hour ago.

https://i.imgur.com/U1xxW3El.png (https://imgur.com/U1xxW3E)

There is another release tomorrow the "big pay day" or something like that. At a guess that is going to kill the price even more.

Anybody want to bet how soon we are at .000xxx usd instead of .00xxxx usd.

At a guess a lot of the airdrop people had their coins released today. Some gamblers kept them till tomorrow for the big pay day.

Wonder if they will win or not.

-Dave

And 24 hours later......

https://i.imgur.com/kWdH4Avl.png (https://imgur.com/kWdH4Av)

Rough numbers .003123 * 1.4 = .004372
So unless you got a 40% bonus for keeping it for the big pay day you took a loss.
No idea what the number is / was. Can anyone chime in?


MY view:
Look out below.
I see a dead cat bounce incoming. Followed by a flatline.

Might be wrong, but I don't see it recovering.

-Dave

edit: between the time I took the screen shot of the price, typed the post and hit post it went even lower:
https://i.imgur.com/EO3ivvIl.png (https://imgur.com/EO3ivvI)

Imagine being that retarded, bitcoin has had many 80%+ dips. Hex has just ended its launch phase. Watch it over the next year, it will out gain everything in crypto.

Right, exactly like Bitcoin, except that it's a laughable "staking" token with no use case. Like Bitconnect but more stupid.

It's a matter of time, before investors realize this, they should be hurry to sense that it is going worthless so they can get out in profit, the developer is good in making hype on this project, I also don't believe it's a scam, it's more of a pump and dump coin, well anyway awareness while holding a pump and dump coin will save you from being a bag holder, be quick to get out at the right time.

But wait.....There's more..... https://axion.network/

Looks like they took a snapshot of Hex, and made a fork with the same concept.

Ah, well I guess there will always be people who like giving their money away.
Anyone want to buy some Dave tokens? I promise they will be worth something sooner or later.

-Dave

Down to 22 sats today, after bouncing up a bit from 17. If you got in on this when it was at 1-3 sats then you are still doing pretty well. However, that was way back when, and looking at the volume I'm willing to bet most people are sitting on a loss. A lot of people got in at 3 sats but even more got in between 30 and 100.

This was kind of an interesting read but I can't verify the truthfulness of its claims:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/jx5nuz/how_richard_heart_tricked_and_deceived_people/

Many people basically call everything that isn't bitcoin a scam. I heard similar FUD when ethereum launched, "omg don't send your valuable bitcoin for premined scam coin"

What essentially happened over the last 2 days was like a stock split. Unit price dropped as launch phase coins were distributed. And throw in the shortsighted bitcoin freeclaimers that just dump immediately you get a strong dip. 80% dips are common and happen to EVERY CRYPTOCURRENCY.

Censorship resistance with centralized ownership, sorry but thats just how crypto and valuable businesses are in the real world. Founders own majority in Ripple, Ethereum, etc. Majority of Bitcoin is owned by a very small amount of addresses. Do you hear people crying that Jeff Bezos owns the most Amazon Stock?

You guys are in for a shock as hex will continue to rise in the future.





great points:
"Started the defi/uniswap movement.
Has ethereum Genesis whales participating in it
First blockchain Certificate of Deposit on the blockchain (Trillions of dollars locked in CDs in the real world)
Has been gatekept all year long yet continues to chug along with no hiccups while all the other defi projects rugpull
has by far the best community in crypto: t.me/hexcrypto
Launch phase was a year long and literally just finished
Over $5billion dollars of bitcoin have claimed their hex over the launch phase"



I think you are a legit retard or just another brainwashed bitcoin maxi. Bitcoin has no use case either, Its basically just number go up. All crypto is just speculation and the only thing people care about is the price. Its not just "staking" , Its the first certificate of deposit on the blockchain, Do some research and see how many Trillions of Dollars are in CDs in the real world.

Yeah bullshit. "Bitcoin has no use case" LOL. It had use cases long before scammers like Richard Heart showed up to separate idiots from their bitcoins. Even ETH has some use cases, e.g. serving as a platform for stupid shit like HEX. USD CDs have a purpose too.

HEX exists purely to dupe morons into pumping it.

I'd say it depends a bit on how you define "scam". At the very least, it's shady as hell. They have (or had? I've read about this when HEX was still relatively new, and I don't know if things have changed, since then) this copy function in the smart contract, which gives:

• "someone" (wink wink) an identical copy of the HEX tokens someone "minted" (I don't know how to call it)
• and of course the ETH paid for the HEX tokens also goes to that "someone"

It is an ingenious money printing machine for the creators, i.e. Richard J. Schueler ("Richard Heart"). People need to decide for themselves if they want to help spread something like this. I, personally, wouldn't.

hex.com above was saying "hex will continue to rise in the future" so that kind of a claim is a scam IMO. There is no way to guarantee gains and HEX doesn't have any revenue/demand to support gains other than tricking more people into buying, locking it up, etc - typical pyramid shit.

Not sure if that dipshit is an official account though. There's tons of imposters. Running a scam using some token is not the same as the token being a scam, so they might slide on that technicality for a while.

I think that only people who don't have the right arguments are starting to insult their opponents in the debate. Lashing out at someone is a classic sign of weakness.


That’s exactly what all the nayayers say, but as time goes on, this position proves to be demonstratively wrong.


Here you are fundamentally wrong. If that were true, there wouldn't be a bitcoin in the first place.

Pretty much. I'd personally put them in the "scheme" category since almost everything is transparent anyway, but the outrageous claims not only from the HEX community, but from the founder/owner himself is what placed this in the "scam" category.

I notice a trend among people who get suckered into scams and post on the forum in defense of their scam. They all:

- believe making money is the only thing that matters, and anything goes in the pursuit of more money,
- believe everybody else is as shortsighted and amoral as they are, and
- have no remorse in encouraging the loss of others.

Their who approach is basically, "hey man, nothing matters but money, and I'll do or say anything to get it -- wouldn't you?" They don't realize most decent people would say "no, I wouldn't." They just don't get it.

Probably just desperate poor bastards who have failed to achieve anything in real life. I genuinely feel sorry for them sometimes... (I said sometimes, not all the time!)  ;D

Was going to let this thread die but I was looking at CMC today for something else and figured I would check ono HEX:

https://i.imgur.com/IUVHfEOl.png (https://imgur.com/IUVHfEO)

So a market cap $5 billion to $600 million in 3 weeks.

To make suchmoon happy..... It's falling apart as fast as the legal team working on Trump's voter fraud case.

I just don't get how people keep putting money into it.
Don't get me wrong, if you were part of the initial distribution airdrop and you want to get out and people are stupid enough to give you money. Good for you.
But why are people giving you money. That's just nuts.

-Dave
 

How did the marketcap drop by nearly 90% if the price dropped only (LOL) ~75%? Did some tokens disappear somewhere?


I don't know if I'm particularly happy about people losing their money on some shitcoin while a full-scale bullrun is in progress (congrats on reaching $19k everyone) but some people have to learn the hard way I guess.

I believe CMC only considers the non-staked coins for their circulating supply. That's also why they don't consider the coin eligible for "normal ranking", as complained by a shiller here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283309.msg55418112#msg55418112) when the it was "top 17" (now top 206).

Here is an archive from last month, where it shows a supply of 376 billions: https://web.archive.org/web/20201022161033/https://coinmarketcap.com/pt-br/currencies/hex

Now there are only 173 billions.

People in this thread are going to look very foolish.








Same as bitcoin , its not even useful as a currency anymore, high fees and doesn't scale. Its just hoping someone buys it for a higher price.

Not same as bitcoin. I use bitcoin about 4 times a week. People who hold hex would never think of using it as a currency. Hex may pump again -- I wouldn't be surprised. There's just nothing interesting about it to me and I don't see how it could possess any intrinsic value.

Do you realize that bitcoin just doubled in price between your comment and the one before yours? ::)

I find it amusing how supporters of scammy shitcoins like to use bitcoin as an argument. So if they decide to have anonymous team while asking people to invest then it's because "creator of bitcoin was anonymous too" or if whole concept looks scammy then they like to say "some people think of bitcoin as scam too" and other similar bs.

While some people use bitcoin for speculation, that's just one of the use cases, which can't be said for hex because it's the only use case making it just another pump&dump shitcoin.

"The Dunning-Kruger effect is a type of cognitive bias in which people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they really are. Essentially, low ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence. "

educate yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koxWS3Rc_mU

Haters will be proven wrong. HEX is on a rocketship to $1. Richard Heart is a genius.

Hex has passed litecoin in marketcap and has entered the top 10. Eventually HEX will become the #1 cryptocurrency.

Update for the haters. HEX is now in the top 5 on nomics.com It has passed ripple, cardano, and doge. It continues to reach all time highs while bitcoin maxis baghold.

HEX makes another high while everything else is crashing. Being a bitcoin maxi is terrible for your finances, will the scam accusers here admit they were wrong about hex?

A ponzi by definition will be "high" until it isn't. Don't miss the right moment to dump your bags onto unsuspecting victims.

maybe you should read and get educated: https://hex.com/scam/  

Your probably jealous of Richard Heart and probably dumped your btc freeclaim immediately because you didn't realize what you had.

https://richardheart.com/

And the crazy thing is that coinmarketcap still hides hex on page 3 when its marketcap already puts it at top 3 on accurate ranking sites like nomics.com

Spamming your links here doesn't make it true. This shit has no real purpose and exists for the same reason as Bitconnect did. And will end the same way.

What happened to HEX, I don't see them anymore in the forum being promoted by the signature campaign participants. What happened to the people behind the campaign and the project? They look promising the first time that I have seen them and now they're already gone?

They probably realized that there is nothing more they can achieve by shilling their shitcoin on the forum, it has already been seen a thousand times and will continue. As far as I can see, their coin is high on the 201st place of the CMC list with a price of as much as $0.12 - and did anyone even expect something else - @ Kittygalore, promising?

HEX has the highest trading volume on uniswap besides eth and stablecoins.

There has never been anything like this before in cryptocurrency. Gatekeeping sites like Coinmarketcap make money on gambling ads, trading fees, and paid pump and dumps. They try to hide HEX because they milk their users for money. CMC is owned by binance, they are not to be trusted.

HEX is the greatest cryptocurrency ever created, Richard Heart deserves a noble prize for HEX.

HEX will flip ethereum and bitcoin, its only a matter of time.

HEX is what defi is, NO MIDDLEMEN, NO ADMIN KEYS, NO CENTRALIZED PARTIES.


And this forum is disgusting, shilling gambling ads left and right. People have mostly moved on to other platforms, this forum isn't what it used to be.

Are we talking about in science or a peace prize?

I disagree with your assertion that a few lines of smart contract code are "greater" than the mechanism that executes it.


Unlikely a token would ever flip its host platform, for reasons stated above.


Let's all take a moment to be sad and reflect on the former greatness of the forum. RIP.

Welp, let me suggest that you leave this disgusting forum and take your scammy craptoken with you kthxbai.

Disgusting forum, huh?

... and you still couldn't help but log in and defend your shitty project? Looks like your brain is uncoordinated. One part is probably in disagreement with the other. Go see a psychiatrist.

People much smarter and richer than you know that hex is the future. The largest bitcion freeclaimer (14k bitcoin) staked for 15 years.

Ethereum genesis whales have been accumulating: here is one example: https://etherscan.io/address/0xaf10cc6c50defff901b535691550d7af208939c5#tokentxns

Everything you need to know is on the blockchain.

There is a reason Richard allowed bitcoiners to claim hex, but unfortunately a lot of bitcoiners are toxic maximalists that refuse to acknowledge innovation in this space.

Yes, of course. The reason is that it cost him nothing to create the tokens out of thin air, just like bch/bsv and other "airdropped" garbage, except he made the token number larger because why not.

There is no innovation here. POS crap that forces bagholders to lock their coins in hopes of making the price go up, like any other POS crap out there.

What I mean by promising was that they put effort in their campaign and they seem to be getting a lot of clout and investors and I think at that time they were promising.

HEX makes another new all time high while everything else dumps. Hex at 100bill marketcap  https://nomics.com/


Extreme maxi cope, keep bagholding those bitcoin as they dump to 10k.

Your saying the same  fud I heard when ethereum launched. "omg all premined, all created out of nothing, wHy wOuld you trade your bitcoin for these worthless ethereum created out of thin air???


Those early bitcoin miners created those btc out of thin air by clicking a few buttons on a laptop.

Bitcoin isn't peer 2 peer cash, it was purposefully crippled but it become a store of value which is worth more. HEX has superior design that makes it the greatest store of value in the crypto market.

You think its better for inflation to be paid to miners that dump to pay for electricity or for inflation to be paid to people that lock up their coins?

You harbor a lot of anger and resentment for someone whose coin has been on a tear. If you already won, what do you still have to prove?

People should admit they were wrong when they throw out terrible accusations against Richard Heart and Hex. The toxic maximalist attitude is terrible for crypto. Its the Michael Saylor syndrome where they think only bitcoin matters and nothing else.

My point exactly. Make more worthless coins, lock most of them up, pretend to have a large market cap. Doesn't mean shit.

The rest of your fallacious post reminds of a guy who served prison time for selling unregistered securities and defrauding customers. Don't be that guy.

Why does that matter to you?

Seems like you should be comfortable enough in your own skin by now to understand that occasionally people say mean things on the internet.

What accusations are you talking about anyway? Ones like this?

https://azcoinnews.com/hex-founder-richard-heart-was-revealed-to-be-a-notorious-scammer-known-as-the-spam-king.html


You're saying its not true?

We still talking about OneCoin Hex ?
edit: sorry I meant to say
We still talking about Bitconnect Hex ?

This spammer your referring to just raised over $28million dollars for medical research. Keep crying while hex makes new all time highs.


One bitcoin free claim worth of hex at the launch is worth over $4000 now and all you had to do was a sign a message from your btc address.  Bunch of you losers never claimed your hex or you did and dumped it as soon as you could.

https://twitter.com/RichardHeartWin/status/1428087252303945738

Have the nice people at the SEC talked to you yet or are you still hiding from them?

Also rumor has it that the snail mail letters you're sending out to addresses stolen from Ledger are ending up with the FTC... those three-letter agencies are very very slow but when they catch up I hope you spend all your scam proceeds on lawyers.

Hex was launched complete with no expectation of profit from the work of others. HEX is not a security.


Imagine the horror, being sent a letter about the best performing asset of the last 2 years.

lol hex is 100% a security, fraudulent one at that too
completely fails the howey test
edit:  "medical research" that non profit would be funny if its only purpose wasnt evading taxes or some shit. 

Boasting about profit and claiming "no expectation of profit" in the next post... nice. But if there is no "profit from the work of others" then it's clearly a ponzi scheme.


Small correction: mail fraud. Easiest way for stupid criminals to get caught.

18 U.S.C. § 1341 provides:

    Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Fun fact, postal office investigators are like the freakin FBI.  Through various fun techniques, they can actually identify who posted a letter (sometimes), in what mail box and when.

If you or anyone you know has been a victim of mail fraud, say, from a cryptocurrency project sending snail mail or anything similar to that effect, I would recommend filling this form out
https://ehome.uspis.gov/fcsexternal/default.aspx

From what I can see from a user on reddit : "My address was in the Ledger leak database and yesterday I received a three page, double-sided letter from Hex (read: Richard Heart), claiming 95,000% gains if you invested in Hex."


If someone has that letter, please scan it and post it or send me a link.  Because as an ex-mailman, it makes me feel very bad to deliver these things to people.  And I will report it.  So should you.

https://www.docdroid.net/Ltj2VJS/hex-letter-pdf

much thanks
edit: id give you much merit but dont have any to send :(

Ah, so you admit that Richard is the long-time, well-known scam artist (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27248663) Richard Schueler, thanks for confirming.

This is from a 2010 YouTube video description (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoK4purIJEY):


What are the chances he's changed after 11 years? Little I'd say.

Just FYI: I have never touched this piece of shit. Someday you'll realize there's more to life than money. I hope.


Well he is the Spam King. Just couldn't help himself I suppose.

Congrats Richard on becoming the biggest mosquito to ever exist. That was the goal, right? Well you made it, so congrats.

Another new all time high while the rest of the crypto market dumps. Maybe some of you midwits should watch Richard Hearts livestreams on youtube and you will learn what his mission is for the world. There are no victims, richard heart is out here helping people and making the world a better place.






Suchmoon, I'm curious, did you claim your free hex by signing a message and if you did, do you still have it?

Ooh, are we gonna play the "you're not a bagholder so you can't say bad things about it" game? I love that one.

Well, suchmoron, it's simple.

If you didn't claim your free hex, then you're clearly an idiot.
If you did claim your free hex but sold "early" when the price was low, then you're clearly an idiot.
If you didn't sell early but instead held the hex, then you are actually a supporter!

Gotcha, sucker!

You do understand crypto is a zero-sum game right....

my my my, another new all time high as bitcoin dumps.




still a scam right? Richard is gonna rug right?

Extreme Cope

Wow, you haters missed out big time.

I heard the similar things when ethereum launched, worthless shitcoin, dont give your bitcoin to these scammers.



Hex will become the #1 crypto whether you like it or not. HEX has superior store of value design compared to everything else.

Coinmarketcap is being sued for fraud, they have been hiding hex at rank #201 for a long time while its already been top 3 for awhile now.   https://twitter.com/ccfxstudios/status/1438255917938642952

Oh, hex is still a thing? TBH we've since moved on to other things, got boring. TBH it looks like a great time to sell, but then again what do I know because I missed out.


Compared to the blockchain its hosted on? How can HEX be superior to the thing it depends on for its existence?

You can use whatever metric to establish HEX's superiority you want, we could honestly care less.

I'm still kicking myself for missing out on Paycoin and Bitconnect.

Price did 100x since you posted this.


The bitcoin maxis on this board are delusional.

Do yourself a favor and buy some hex while its still hidden on coinmarketcap at rank #201

And by the way if you held one bitcoin on December 2nd, 2019 its over 20k hex in freeclaim, so you got $6k for free for holding one bitcoin on that date at current prices.

You may not be aware of this, but one bitcoin is like $50k these days, without any shitcoining spam king token ponzi gimmicks.

But keep bumping your scam thread by all means.

HEX did extremely well and made a lot of people rich. The problem with it though was that there was a small group of insiders that controll the majority of the supply. MAXX finance is a similar tokenized CD with additional utility and a free claim for HEX holders. The team will only get 5% of the supply, vs something like 45% for HEX, and holders of ETH and MATIC will also be able to claim their free tokens.

The concept of a tokenized CD is a good one, and I see banks using this technology in the future, but in order for the yield to be sustainable, projects like HEX need additional utility in the form of DeFi DApps, token transaction fee redistribution using a DAO, and validator node revenue. This is what MAXX is doing to provide fixed yields.