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I would like to make it clear that I have been a bounty hunter, bounty manager, and part of project management for various projects and this is not to support the bounty hunters but rather to show the reality how bounty hunters and what they go through in this forum.

I know it's not easy to manage a bounty campaign as you will receive thousands of messages from irritating users, there will be hundreds of fake entries in the spreadsheet then you real users disputing that they didn't receive stakes because some imposters have entered their address against the real user's name and sometimes bounty managers or dev team's response would not be the politest one.

But at the same time there are hundreds of hardworking bounty hunters who work really hard in the hope that their efforts would be rewarded but all the efforts are shadowed by the wrongdoings of few cheap users with fake accounts who bombard, spam the bounty groups and harass bounty managers as a result whole bounty hunter community is looked with suspicious and selfish.

Bounty tokens contribute a very small portion of the total supply if we look at the percentage of tokens which are traded but still bounty hunters are blamed for dumping the market with cheap price, regardless of the price bounty hunters sell the tokens if the project is good then the price will not be affected or even if it's affected it will eventually recover without much loss but they are blamed for dump wherein it's sometimes investors who dump the token for quick profit.

The worst part is when tokens are locked for bounty hunters and only distributed to them when the market is already broken by investors, after their efforts and ill-treatment in the hands of such bounties they finally receive worthless tokens which would be a loss even if they trade as the tokens will not even worth the GAS fee charged in MEW wallet to transfer it.

I urge all the management and bounty managers to treat bounty hunters with respect and they shouldn't be judged.


I have made a similar article about the pain of bounty managers and here is the link you may read it and understand I have seen both the phases

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219422.msg53662033#msg53662033

Might be harsh to say but they wouldnt really care most of the time.To those people who do really see the struggles of those real bounty hunters(not  the cheaters or abusers) will surely have this kind of feeling towards them.Im also a bounty hunter back then but to those times into those golden days where ICO is still flying with colors and most of the projects i had joined did really make out some nasty payouts yet there were
no limitations like locking up the tokens, KYC verification and other tasks which are needed first to be done before you can able to withdraw your coins but now as of todays bounty hunting then majority of them were change
from rules until on how they do treat up bounty hunters.Back then it isnt really that rampant when it comes to abuse but i cant really blame out totally the management or managers to have this kind of perception
towards hunters but it isnt really that right though to generalize it all.

Is there something we can do? None.. and as i said earlier, they wouldnt mind on what our personal opinions are because they do always care for their own benefit and advantage and doesnt matter
if they do degrade up someones emotions or what.

I can relate to the situation as its not good to generalize the entire bounty hunters based on behaviour of few and as you have rightly mentioned I have been a part of numerous bounty programs as well during its golden days and I am still a part of bounty program which is smoothly managed but this cannot go on as things needs to be changed for betterment of community and projects as well.

I think everyone must be fair and respectful to all parties including the bounty hunter, bounty manager, project owner, we know that currently the situation is very difficult for bounty hunters and bounty managers, and bounty managers only obey the orders of the project owner, we also cannot judge bounty manager, and I think the bounty manager must innovate in distributing payments such as the DIA and CTSI bounty managers in the next 3 months, if they don't want to dump the tokens

blamed bounty hunters for the dumping of any coins is not reasonable for me
because not all bounty hunters will dump their rewards as soon as possible when the tokens tradeable on exchange
sometimes, the project didn't have enough demands to push the price up and make the price down because more sellers than buyers

I totally support the OP statement but the naive bounty is also the reason bounty hunters are blamed for token price dump because they also believe the token sales done by bounty is enough to influence the price of new token whereas every exchange listed token should be expected dump in price after early traders receive their trading competition reward token.

Bounty Management is not a easy task.The  work of bounty management is seems a easy one, but it's not so. Because you should patience to reply to bounty hunters. Some may irritate you by their inadequate knowledge. Even a newbie applied for a bounty and make you to irritated. But same we can face while doing bounty hunting. Some project will scam us after a two months of work.

You're kind and supportive to the bounty hunters. But the project developers, they won't give you any attention if that's what you want.
All they care is about the advantage that they can get from people who will help them with the exposure of the project and gain a lot of investors.

I think there are very few projects and the managers care about the bounty hunter, they can do whatever they want.
I've been through many bad scenarios with scam projects, they slow down or pay only when the token becomes a pile of junk.
There are projects that are listed on the exchange but still scam bounty hunters. Project Markaccy is an example, they promise to pay in September but bounty hunters have not received tokens yet.

Very apt!

This is painful and I think BM who have managed projects like that where hunters were treated in such a manner should be avoided.

If care isn't taken, I foresee a situation where it will be very difficult to attract quality posters in bounties as a result of this ill treatment of hunters.

Nothing can be done because campaigns not regulated.

Its the risk bounty hunters are going through when it comes to fees. But it's not supposed to be a source of income so don't expect too much from the campaigns that might just be a scam later on. This is also the reason why bounty hunters are just dumping the tokens before the project ends up as a scam and also most bounty hunters are up to grab BTC, not an altcoin.

The Topic should accompany Agony as part of the topic!  :'(
On a serious note, the way hunters are been trash by this team leave you in pain without any action. I have a bounty manager I'm about to report and the project on scam and reputation board.
Its Attn project, participated for this guys for good 1 month and a week, they promise to pay hunters after 40 days since August but we are left with nothing. The painful part is the team is no longer replying us. Isn't that sad.
Bounty hunters wanted manager to sanction the project in the forum but it seems he was paid not to help hunters by bringing the project down.
I complained bitterly but he has the guts to remove me from the group chat.
I will open a thread for ATTN by weekend.

This is the main reason why most project do whatever they like and tell hunters that it's part of the agreement when signing up for their campaign.
If bounty was to be regulated, most of these projects won't meet up to the standard. But this is impossible. It's up to hunters to decide which project they want to promote and which one they don't.
As OP already stated, investors that got in on presale are the reason behind most market crashes. They even give out their token to exchanges so that they could get listed.

This is what many users have been pointing out.

The project always allocate only a small amount of percentage for the bounty campaign, it is being divided not only to 100 users but most of the time more than a thousand users. Despite knowing the numbers of participants, they still blame the bounty hunters for dumping the price even if they receive only a small portoin from their allocation wherein the team and investors are really the one who dump the price of the token. This is the sad reality where bounty hunters are not being treated fairly, they are always being blame even after supporting the project.

Don't forget about the no KYC bounty campaign that after the token distribution scheduled a token swap requiring every bounty participant to do KYC.    Worst after complying, they never distributed the new token.

Another scenario of no KYC bounty, after the campaign, the management change rule and requires every participant to do KYC.  



Well, all the protection should come from the bounty manager since he is the one communicating with the project owner.  I hope we can see a more responsible bounty manager in altcoin bounties in the future.

The pain of the bounty hunters can only be felt by people who have undergone highly stressed work conditions and where salary is not guaranteed even after working for months and following strict rules throughout the campaign.
I think measures should be taken to make sure that each and every bounty hunter will be paid and no one will be able to exploit them.

Being a bounty hunter, of course you will not always benefit from every project that we participate in, but sometimes the feeling of disappointment is present when the project we are working on experiences failure and fraud, this is a risk we must face and from that we must be more careful  in choosing a bounty project for us to work on to avoid fraud.
In this case it is not appropriate for us to blame each other, both the bounty participant and the bounty manager who handled the project because even if fraud occurs, of course the manager also does not get paid at all from the developer Because in this case usually the bounty manager is only the worker and the developer is responsible in full against participant payments.

The bounty hunter is blamed for getting tokens without having to buy and the bounty hunter is helpless to fight the decisions made by the bounty manager or team members, maybe if we fight then we won't get paid because our names can be crossed out on the spreadsheet, actually the bounty manager is the one who more entitled and must defend the bounty hunter. Bounty hunters can only stay silent and receive insults from investors because of a dump, this is the risk of becoming a bounty hunter

If you look at the telegram there different projects that always said the bounty hunters was the one to blame about dumping the coins.
But we are not the on doing that thing to dump the price of it they dont have any evidence to accuse us for dumping the coins.
And the only thing that I know was the project if the end of distribution we all see the price was dump and the bounty rewards are not distributed yet so why they said the bounty hunters the one blaming the dump.

And I agree to you not all or we bounty hunters are not the one dumping the price and actually we hold it for so long.

The reason why they can easily blame the bounty hunters is because we don't have a voice. There is no one who can communicate directly to them, whatever the blame they say to bounty hunters, there will be no response coming from hunters. Most of the time, blaming bounty hunters is the way of the project team to easily abandon the project, they say that the price have no future because bounty hunters already dump the price.

That’s a very common move by a scam project, blaming others for their failing token. Hunters must understand the risk if working without being paid on time and if you sell don’t blame yourself if the the falls just continue to work and focus on your own strategy, don’t mind those project especially if you already sold your holdings. This is not an easy job after all, a full of risk job so we deserve to be rewarded, hopefully that you work with the good project.

The pain you have is also the pain that every bounty hunters had feel. But it is very unfortunate that most of us are blaming hunters as the cause of the price dumps which is eventually responsible for the developers also to help their company. But why not these bounty hunters never give up? Because they are still helpful in some other way and these developers need them to promote their project. It doesn't matter if they have to blame, it is out of their mind because they know that they are not and so they keep working for no assurance.

So far, from my experience participating as a bounty hunter, the pain that I experience is when participating in a project but the result is that the token is not too expensive and the most painful is the developer who does not provide the allocation to the bounty hunter. Therefore, until now, I decided to participate in the campaign that had escrowed or gave the allocation to the bounty manager so that the payment would run smoothly.

Bounty hunters should be blamed if you take the all facts together and make a perfect analysis. The idea is simple, the more bounty hunters dump the tokens on the market price the team has to buy back more. If the bounty hunters don't believe in the future of the project, they only need quick cash with the promotion of the random project for a few months. The easy money hunters are hunted by pro scammers, kinda win-win situation for the crypto industry. Shaking the weak hands has been the best option since the first stock market trade.

I'm getting tired of every other post about bounty hunters, they should do something else that can at least guaranteed them money then instead of whining and complaining when the bounty hunters are the main ones that's quick to dump the coins to make a few bucks. The bounty hunters are to blame for how they get treated. If you're still a bounty hunter in 2020 and beyond that, just find something else to do.

this is quite a complex problem, it requires a high sense of tolerance so that the bounty ecosystem remains conducive. Well, it cannot be denied that many cheaters are trying to get as much profit as possible by breaking the rules, many modes are used, all of which have been explained by the OP, starting from registering multiple accounts, cloning other people's accounts, etc. This is where the role of the bounty manager is really needed, the strategy that is implemented must really be able to minimize the existence of fraud, I see a fairly reliable BM like Julerz has a red list of fraudulent accounts.

Becoming a bounty hunter is not as easy as imagined, many people underestimate it because they get coins or tokens for "free". Even though hunters have to work hard to do their job to support the project, come on ... we respect each other. Investors and bounty hunters have a role according to their respective capacities, the developer team should also be wiser in addressing this. And for all of you, bounty hunters, be an educated bounty hunter!

I don't think it is right to blame bounty hunters for the dump in the market. Yes, definitely, they will sell the tokens because that's the reason why they participate to begin with but after the dump period, if the project is strong, they should rise again. If not, then, it is not the fault of hunters but the project itself. Also, consider the amount allotted to them, very small as compared to what the team or advisors are holding.

Most project developers will only care about their projects, especially after the project complete and successful. Usually, bounty hunters are worthless in their eyes.
They showed it when they violated the bounty rules they had made. For example, token locking, postponed payments, and more, which I need not reveal one by one, because you already know it too, right?
But not all project developers act like that. But there are only a few project developers who are really sincere to bounty hunters.

it seems that I often experience it like token bounty locked for some time, the bounty reward distribution is changed to incremental.
I know the reason is they scare bounty hunters will dump their token, but why must do that ? Why not change the bounty reward to Stablecoin like USDT or others ?

Sure, why should blame bounty hunters? The bounty hunters have realized that holding too long the tokens got from the new project potentially having lower prices once we will trade them in the future. It is not the era in 2017 anymore, most projects have bad performance after the token sale ended, especially in their token price improvement. That makes bounty hunters be afraid and try to sell their tokens as fast as possible.   

It is clear that the
Bounty allocation is very small compared to the entire volume of the respective token into circulation. Finally the blame will be over the bounty hunters. However there are
platforms that perfectly schedule and let the tokens grow in value than facing decline once listed to Exchanges. When it comes to bounty Managers, in most cases they does what's been assigned to them. It is the value of the project and not the bounty hunters to be blamed.

Become a bounty hunter like becoming a slave. You don't have the right to be respected, and you must obey his words. This is a pain but I still do it, we all still do it.

You know the fact.. If you are rich people, you will not join in any bounty. Because you are poor, we are poor that's the reason we join it. And natural law that the poor have no right to speak

Bounty hunting is on a sad state right now because bounty hunting always got the blame whenever there is a dump, the latest is the YOUC project, where some people are blaming bounty hunters for the dump, if the project is good it will eventually recover it's price now YOUC is fast recovering it's price, the project is promising it's only a matter of time before it recover it's highest price.

It's true. If there is demand for than project the token's price will rise sooner or later even if bounty hunters are giving their coins for free on the market. I see to blame bounty hunters for deep dumps is just an excuse from frustrated people who invested in weak projects and can't admit the consequences of their own acts.
But I really think bounty hunters should raise their standards when promoting a token. The industry is so weak right now because there are people willing to work for coins that may worth nothing.

There's so much opportunity in bounty hunting and you don't need to degrade yourself and called it poor because we are not, we are rich in opportunities always remember this. If you want to be respected then you must work hard and stay humble, the pain of the bounty hunters are the scam project and the scam managers, the rest are normal to me. There's always a risk, if you always look down to yourself then it will be hard for you to grow, just keep on working mate and you'll have your time to shine soon.

Being a bounty hunter always hurts and I have received that in recent years we have worked hard but were not appreciated and it is like getting sharp thorns experiencing the worst things that have become things I experience every time there is a scam in the project that I follow When tired of following bounties that don't pay bounty hunters like me, we just give up because we can't do much, only karma will come to greedy people who don't want to pay bounty hunters.

Yes, that's why bounty campaigns managers will need to set a standard that would force hiring projects to comply. Like for example: escrow, rewards paid in BTC/ETH, if they do it this way, it will lessen the scams and at the same time will have a benefit for all people involve. At least some bounties are actually this examples now.

I like this part of your post, the locking side, this has been going on for the last three years, for me it's a form of punishment for their promoters, because they fear that they are going to dump their coin/token which is just speculative, in the first place why not pay bounty hunters with trade able coin/token so they will not think of their going to get dumped.
And if their project has good potential it will not have problem recovering the price, this is just an old alibi from weak projects, they just want an escape goat.

Its not really fair for bounty hunters to be blame for the dump of the tokens. Just like what op said, the portion allocated for bounty is not huge to have a big impact to its price. But hunters are always the one who gets a negative image for this unfortunate situation.

They should know the fact first about the project on why the price dump easily. The team is responsible for this, they must have a concrete plan in order to prevent this from happening if the investors already sell their tokens.

I totally agree with you man because i have been bounty hunting 3 years from now and i have seen the best and the ugliest experiences ever treated to us bounty hunters wherein they looked down on us like beggars and putting names that we dumped the price of any projects we joined with. I agree with the small percentage of allocation how can hunters dumped it wherein many clever team locked tokens of participants, some will not pay much even worst than that hard works were not getting paid. It is very injustice and not fair that we were always being pointed fingers by the team wherein investors can also dumped the price and much worst team can do it too.

If the project is good, the price will surely recover, doesn't matter if bounty hunters or any people are the reason of price dump, they should  be thankful because they can buy  cheap token or coin.

 But in reality bounty hunters have the right to sell their coins/token because they work hard for it so they should not be blamed if the price falls.

I totally agree with what OP had said. Most of the time bounty hunters are blamed for why projects die, but the truth is bounty hunters are the ones who promoted and exposed the project which helped during the pre-sale. They are always blamed, most of the time they are paid lower or even none for their hard work. Bounty hunting is a gamble since there is no assurance if your effort will be rewarded justly by the end of the campaign.

Nowadays bounty hunters are running with huge pain and frustration because of the very few bounties coming and if coming they are cheating in the way of low reward or not giving at all.

It really makes you furious after all the work you`ve done in the bounty they will just say "The bounty has been cancelled" or "Delayed checking and distribution" I mean I never missed of late to submit my bounty works and I am sure I am not the only and they always said such excuse without compensating. Such a time risk joining bounty without assurance.

People think that bounty hunters doesn't face any kind of risks but the truth is they are facing a big risks and that risks are about not receiving the right reward that should give to them . Imagine you are participating in bounty for months then suddenly they didn't pay you because they said that it needed to unlock for 2 more years. The hardwork that you did will become to waste where your inner self telling you that you shouldn't join in that project because you waste a lot of time.  I also became a bounty hunter in the year 2017, and I also experienced to participate in projects that didn't pay me very well.

Actually what bounty hunters feel hurt, is not just not getting paid, but there are many examples.

1. Get payment but the token is not listed on the exchange
2. accused of destroying the market price
3. the work is not appreciated
4. projects always put investors first over bounty hunters

Of course all projects are not like that, but there are some projects that humiliate bounty hunters and always scapegoat bounty hunters, obviously this would be a disappointment to bounty hunters, and I learned a lot to see which projects were quality or not, which were rewarding and which were no, because I know that all projects are not all the same, even different, maybe my hope in the future is only one hope that at the end or at the beginning of the year all new projects can appreciate the work of the bounty hunters in the future, so that no one will be harmed mentally and inner...

Hate it or love it, the choice is yours, if you can't withstand the pains from promoting bounty projects you have every right to quit, it won't cost a thing, if you don't have the whatever it takes mindset you will end up giving up because bounty is full of disappointments but some times it's surprisingly good too.

Recently, at least they have stopped deceiving bounty hunters, demanding to suddenly and in a short time pass KYC already some time after the end of the ICO.  There are still many problems with bounty hunters, and one of them is, of course, getting tokens even when their price on the exchange fell to the price of gas for their movement to the exchange.  If the price recovers even a little after a certain time, it is still bearable.  However, in many cases, the price no longer rises and we only have useless tokens.

They make up their own rules and policy to handle the bounty hunter. If they want to maintain their reputation and credibility as a new project, they should be more careful in keeping their promises. The injustice they do to their promoters will have a major impact on public trust.

if the project is indeed a scammer, then they have ignored the public's trust,
there are many bounty programs that don't pay, like Kingcasino, Envion etc.,
and look at the project now, it's dead.

The pain of grace hunters is actually a lot more but not all projects are bad it turns out that a lot of bad is a good but in most cases bounty projects are scammed many managers do not give tokens when they finish working again even if many people give them they are not in the market. Due to not giving the right price it's really painful i also did a lot of bounty but didn't get the right price with the rise of the crypto market many good projects are underway.

Not all bounty hunters deserves bounty manager's respect because many bounty hunters are so annoying and ungrateful too, the great bubbalex decide to quit managing bounties because of how bounty hunters treated him in his last bounty campaign (DIA), bounty hunters need to show some love to BMs too

You have a point, you feel the bounty participants experienced when they misjudge and blame about the project output. I have read other statement blaming the participants project failures and dump price when it's listed in the exchange. Both managers and participants did their effort to promote it so others should do analyze the situation. And to the participants, it is a must that we should always have to search before we did our part on joining the project.

That should be the case, they are launching bounty campaign because they want to get promoted and they want people to now about their project, so if the project get funded if they did not reach their hard cap at least the bounty hunters have their job.
The project that will not honor their words will not get respect from investors, investors and bounty are actually one they also invest money to support this project.

I fully agree with the initial statement that bounty hunters need to respect themselves first. There should be some common understanding between bounty hunters such that they won't join any bounty campaign without certain promises.

1) The bounty campaign must hire a professional manager and hunters should abandon project that don't respect this point.
2) The tokens must be deposited to the manager and he will then send to the hunters.
3) Any participant who is cheating must be banned but the ones who are working hard should not be touched or harassed.

Bounty hunters have to unite and show the power together because as long as they only think about themselves the whole bounty hunters community will struggle.

Excellent post ...

I believe that we all deserve to be paid fairly for our efforts and time.

I think there are some reward managers who start to pay with Fiat.

This would be better for everyone ...

Very well said dude, I support you on this statement of yours. I'm glad that there is someone like you who support the bounty hunters about some of the BM who manage projects campaign, but in some other way there the majority of the BM actually, are not the same as you have concern with the bounty hunters. Most of them really, really don't care about the feelings of the bounty hunters, for them money is the only matters that's the reality, real talk only.

No one will understand the pain of the employee except us. we worked hard every month just hoping to receive the token and sell it to pay our living expenses but were treated unfairly and even scammed.
I think this is the time when bounty hunters should open up here and make demands to protect the interests of Bounty hunters. Moderators will review and sometimes they will act for us if our arguments are correct.
I am first, I hope that the Moderators at Bitcointalk will be more strict with those who open the topic in the Bounties section. especially get them to deposit the rewards before the real campaign starts!

Well, many of us bounty hunters have experienced so many wrongdoings from the companies and the projects. Yet we just move on and try to find other profitable. At the start you have all the energy to do many things, try to do its many forms, translations, signature, facebook and twitter. You do so many failed attempts, many headaches, but we just move on.

Bad and good are always mixed everywhere, so arguing and blaming parties is really unnecessary, what i wish is that in the bounty space there are more projects, and with the experience of Over the past time i believe in choosing BM or a project to start working with. What you went through i have also encountered, but i think it will be difficult to solve because as you see it is not easy at all, so you decide to work on the project and accept the rule to join right away. From the outset will be required by BM from the start to participate.

Everything that was told in the opening post regarding bounty hunters is true, so don't take part in the bounty campaign if you don't
have the patience and mentally strong. Because it is likely that the efforts we have done are not in accordance with the rewards we get.
Since 2019 until now, the rewards I get from the bounty campaign are around $ 5- $ 20, very different from the rewards that I get when
2017-2018. The golden age of bounty hunters when ICOs became a trend and the price of Bitcoin was at an all time high.

It acceptable that no bounty manager will wipe out the agreement between him and the project team but some bounty causes some pain to bounty hunters in terms of payment thats another topic though. You said there are platforms that will influence the increase in price of token rather than it dump in price. Could you explain?

Also some pain of bounty hunters:
Seeing their rewards but not receiving it on time.
Seeing the price drop down and couldn't take their profit because they still doesn't receive their reward.
Holding some useless rewards because the project didn't continue.

I feel that not all bounty managers have respect for bounty participants, I have experienced a bounty manager changing bounty allocations when his bounty campaign ended and gave very few rewards to participants.
Those who have respect for bounty participants will not want to accept a bounty program that only provides a small reward.

Really pain in the heart, but it happen a lot with thousands of useless or discontinuous projects.
The first thing that bounty hunter need to do is research whether the project is legit and may have a good application/utility.
Second thing, although the project is legit, it doesn't guarantee what will happen with the project development in the future.
Many bounty hunters don't receive coins at the right time and turns out it just a shit coin, not worth the effort and time they have put in.

While i agree to "some" of the things you said, my experience is that only about 10% of hunters are actually legit. And by that i mean they do DD, and support the project like it's intended with a bounty.
People who treat bounty as a "job" honestly don't have my respect.
Bounty was intended as a way to help a project you believe in, not sign up to any thing that pops up in the bounty boards.

Have you taken the time to check twitter accounts of some of the hunters? 100+ spam tweets a day, with only 1-2 views per tweet. Honestly that doesn't deserve any payment, marketing wise.
Also, tell me it's normal that a hunter gets 3000 new followers in 2 days...

Bounties i do appreciate are mostly video and article campaigns, and even that is mostly copy paste of whitepaper and webpage. If i see a person has really put effort, and written a meaningful article in his own words, be it in russian, indonesian or hindi, by all means, give that man applause and best reward.

Nice one btcltcdigger, I believe the main reason why bounty hunters promote scam projects is because they blindly project any new project that pops up in bounties section of this forum, many bounty hunters don't know about quality and non quality projects, they just jump in and start promoting anything that has bounty name on it.

I know that OP has another post about some matters, but I will just leave this thing in here, bounty hunters are different now, unlike those people in the past 3years, I myself is a bounty hunter before, we work hard for every bounty that we participated with, but as what I can see? now bounty hunters are too lazy, do not get offended but I always see some tweets in twitter before, they are just copying some other tweets. Now it is full of quantity over quality bounty hunters.

I think this should be explained to all project makers so as not to blame the bounty hunters with this dump, because bounty hunters only get a small portion of the distribution that has been determined, in my opinion if there is a dump this must be done by investors and their team, because investors get bonus from the project when investing in the project, and the team can also do the dump as they get a share of this project allocation.

This is true. Usually VC's and the investment pools dump as soon as the token hits the exchange.
And then there's the exchange itself which was mostly paid in said token.
But since none of those are "public" transactions, hunters get stuck with the shitty stick

Maximum bounty hunters are real worker but a lot of fake entries are always cheating either with real hunters or with bounty managers time waste to detect them.
Maximum projects allocates a small % of tokens to the bounty hunters which can't damange market if the project is real and list in good exchange. The project that list their tokens in small, low volume exchanges and ultimately down by their investors. After down the market, team send tokens to the humble hunters. From maximum projects, they don't get any payments or received but doesn't cover transaction cost, withdraw cost etc.
Few new bounty managers are treating bounty hunters as worker and they think themselves like US president. But some good managers Like Yahoo and few other managers are doing good for this forum.

For Twitter campaign it's better have it in BTC payment than to use bounty for that since more of them doesn't make any effort for their own tweets . Unlie when you are paying it in BTC they will make their own ideas for a tweets I am also participants on Twitter campaign before and I must say I prefer and want to do it again in Bitcoin payments.

We, as bounty hunters, don't have any power if the project owner has spoken. Although there was already an agreement at the beginning of the project.
A lot of things hurt if the project developer doesn't keep his promise like a suddenly revamped rule.
Locking bounty hunter tokens, actually, it's not necessary. Especially when the price in the market is going up. It's the most annoying thing,
because we can't sell tokens that are already our right. They're sometimes too selfish.

That's why bounty hunters are requesting for escrow from all bounty managers of this forum, I do hope it will be considered some day, I know escrow don't guarantee the success of a project or can't escape volatility but getting paid is certain through escrow

If all new projects can start introducing bounty campaigns after they list on exchanges it will solve some things

1. You will actually know what you will get
2. It will gives better confidence to participants
3. Atleast no fear of exiting scam before bounty campaign ends

Escrowed is just a person-in-charge for the token distribution and we are getting sure to receive our rewards but not a person responsible for the listing. If I am a bounty hunter, I'm not only looking for a bounty that has escrowed but one thing I should have to look more on the campaign manager (reputable and known manager). That is a big factor because the BM itself knows that this project is legit and surely it hits on the market listing after the campaign period or as earlier.

Your argument is very good, I agree with your argument that all this time bounty hunters have always been blamed for dumping the market at a cheap price, even though when compared to tokens owned by gift hunters with investors, there are very few. I hope that in the future there will be special attention and treat the bounty hunters well. It is better if in the future the price of a token must be controlled properly so that investors and bounty hunters cannot carry out improper dumping and also bounty managers work professionally.

Some of the things that you mentioned should get the attention of bounty managers, especially about cheaters who break the bounty system. I myself recommend using the names of all social media bounty participants in accordance with the name of their BTT account so that the bounty manager can easily verify the real bounty participants.

Rules are rules but for developers this days rules are meant to be broken, there is nothing anyone can do about this, if you can't cope then quit bounty, escrow, limited participants, fixed tokens all these still can't fix bounty problems today, we just have to keep hoping for better outcome after bounty ends.

Very true. Not all bounty hunters are trading right away, some are also waiting for the right time to trade their coins. it can affect the price but not to blame because after all if the project working well and progressing , meaning many demands  it the price will pump. It depends really on the project , how they manage it.

I subscribe to the words said above. Indeed, if you take a closer look at the work of the bounty participants and see what conditions apply to them, it will become clear that this is a difficult and now low-paid job. At the same time, only bounty participants are blamed for all the problems of crypto projects. I am glad that a person was found who supported the bounty participants with warm words. This is important for me, since I myself have been a member of many bounty companies since the distant 2017. Unfortunately I also see a big problem. I hope that there may be a time when the work of both honest managers and honest participants in bounty companies will be appreciated.

It is true, many bounty hunters were hurt because they had done a good job following the rules and only used 1 account but they did not get paid. I hate those who sign up with someone else's account because sometimes that can get the real account in trouble. KYC is also a serious problem but it looks like it's starting to disappear lately.

Delayed distribution due to high gas costs is actually a matter for the bounty manager and the project team. bounty hunters are already working and must be paid immediately after the campaign ends. But there are some bounty managers who delay that and ask the hunter to pay half the fee in order to get paid.

You're right! Every one should understand both situation, be fair and respectful so that everything will run smoothly in the part of bounty hunters, bounty managers and project owner. But it's really difficult to happen. You know why?  Because most of bounty hunters only know is complaining and asking the same questions repeatedly which is annoying in the part of bounty managers and admins. Then, there are bounty managers which is not polite, doesn't have word of honor, not easy to approach, and harsh but of course they are just few and still there is a lot of good bounty manager out there. Then, some Project owner is always not fair with the bounty manager and bounty hunters. They give an small percentage as a rewards for the hardwork of the hunters then if their token dump ,they always blamed the hunters. Also they didn't give whole payments for the bounty managers.

if bounty hunters are thought to have resulted in the dumping of a new coin, in my opinion, not all bounty hunters let go of their hunts, I still have a lot of my bounty hunting results until now, until there is no price, because I used to think that for in the future the coin will have a very valuable value.

The Bounty hunters can't do anything IMHO, there are just a subject of the free aim of the project so they can't help issue. The managers should be saddle with the responsibility of securing the benefits of the hunters, most of these managers don't care and some careless with bounty hunters rewards. Among the forum managers, there are very few campaign managers that am pretty happy to work with and some very handful are just "don't care".

the scenario will continue like this, the developers will always blame the hunters for the "DUMP" that happened to their token/coin.  once again I firmly say that we are not wrong at all, we only work (distribute their products) and then get paid according to work and agreements, is it not natural for us to cash in on the results of our work by selling the tokens/coins they provide??

In fact, I do not see anything difficult in weeding out unscrupulous bounty hunters. This is the manager's job. No need to tell how difficult it is for you to run a company, because annoying users write to you. It's your job. You cannot cope with it, give way to those who can. The bounty manager's job is to put everything together in such a way that the identification of multi-accounts and cheaters would be the most simple. If you cannot handle it, you have nothing to do in bounty management.

what you convey is exactly what we feel, especially for bounty hunters. You have a kind heart because you care about bounty hunters. On the other hand, being a project manager is not easy, we have to work hard, because we are required to be fair or investigate thousands of fraudulent participants etc. But still they or the project team would always underestimate bounty hunters for several reasons. including DUMP tokens generated by bounty hunters. but I know that this is the risk of being a bounty hunter, having to do the extra work and not always worth the effort in promoting a project.

joy and sorrow of being a bounty hunter
always blamed on dump prices because of the distribution of tokens to bounty hunters even though the project is not strong enough to handle the price
Then there was a little experience of being a BM and assistant BM turned out to be more difficult every day having to monitor the spreadsheet and counting the number of participants when it was over there started a lot of questions about distribution etc., as much as possible remind the project team to distribute tokens but the answer will be who have been given a bounty report but never read by the project team and that is what makes the reputation fall if you choose to be a bounty hunter, for a fee, it is calculated the same depending on the project, from there you know a little about the dark side of the crypto project regarding the distribution of tokens for bounty hunters
starting to doubt, who used to always be enthusiastic about joining the bounty, now he has a lot of doubts and prefers to take a short bounty or only 1-2 months and monitor the activity of the project team first, and don't really expect more, the term follow if distribution is good if not, forget it

this is not pain, but the risk for become bounty hunters
because when bounty hunters received their rewards, usually the price  from the tokens or coins will down
and for me if the coins or tokens is a kind of solid project, i think thats will be the right time to buy more

Let us be honest. All people are thinking about profit only. Probably 2-3% of guys really care about cryptocurrency development as they are idealists. Therefore, everyone is doing much to make money. It will be senseless to blame ourselves here.

THE REALITY with bounty hunting is this. As old members are resigning from the hunter and move ahead with the life to venture into some else worth meaningful. Newbies that knows nothing about the field flocks in thinking the the job is valuable.
I think the reason why bounties are paying this year 2020 is because cryptocurrencies is regaining its balance and prices are moving up. even scam projects are getting fundings(people are gambling with the little they have. hoping to increase their money).
To all the newbies in bounty hunting. welcome to the ride. KEEP your hopes alive and make sure bitcoin and altcoin keeps pumping. you will be getting paid as long as the market is lively.

To be honest the pain bounty hunters feel after working for months and expecting decent reward but they are either denied the reward or played delaying games or excuses makes them feel discouraged and also put most of them in a stressful and depressive situation which i request the project teams and bounty managers to take note of and pay the promised rewards to hunters for their work as quickly as possible because most of the hunters need to fulfill their basic necessities and that is why they are doing this extra work.

Bounty hunters are mistreated in this industry. Only few projects and bounty managers are concerned with their participants. Project developers are eager to conduct bounty campaigns at first. They always attracted hunters by putting up huge amount in the title of bounty campaigns. But at the end of the sale, even it is successful or not. There are many delays, wallet changes and other factors that they excuse for bounty hunters to receive their tokens. In fact, I am hoping thay this campaign I joined is genuine and concerned with their participants.

We, bounty hunters, should be treated the same as the investors because without us those projects that we promoted won't be known to the public.
Those people who treated bounty hunters as beggars should realize that some of today's investors were also once bounty hunters. 

The bounty manager should bear the responsibility since he is the person in between the bounty hunters and the project owner.  He is also the person hiring the bounty hunters and also the one who makes deal with the project owner.  If anyone have to protect the bounty hunters, it should be the bounty manager since he is the one hiring or accepting these bounty hunters and also the one who introduce the campaign.  So it is the responsibility of the bounty manager to secure the payments of his accepted bounty hunters.

I have been through the same pain on numerous occasions wherein bounties like Athero and Profish cheated on us by paying the tokens after it was dumped and moreover bounty managers claimed that even they were unpaid, but there needs to be some sort of criteria which should be set in the forum in order for a new bounty to operate here and to filter out the scam projects. Bounty hunters are always taken for granted and their time is never valued.

that's the pain of being a bounty hunter probably all bounty hunters have experienced it there are so many risks that must be accepted Project owners make up any rules they like when the bounty is over of the lock token, the allocation reduction doesn't even pay off at all to avoid this problem we must be really careful before joining the bounty of course in order to avoid this incident

That's the reality for bounty hunters, they are not being treated fairly as the same as how investors were treated. Their reason is because bounty hunters are receiving their tokens for free unlike for investors who spend their money to receive the token. But they don't think of the effort given by the bounty hunters to promote the project.

dumping is temporary, the price still depends on how the team making the coin demanding thus making its price high. a reason why you DYOR on the coin and find the right time to buy at dip on the first 24 hours of listing.

i am agree, we spend our best effort to promote project  but as if we beg free coin to them. investors must understand how do we work to promote it and not talk that we be main reason make price dumped.

its not free, before we get it , for several months we must do any task in bounty campaign.

We shouldn't trust some bounty campaign managers. Especially the Swapzilla bounty manager. This manager imported a fake name from the bounty spreadsheet. We can't be satisfied with this scam bounty manager. I won't participate in any campaign which is managed by this manager.

Above all, I don't think that bounty hunters affected the price since only 1% is the common allocation for bounty pool. As a matter of fact, we, bounty hunters wanted also to sell the tokens we get in high price. Who is dumb to sell in low price if the project has potential? That is why, they are saying that bounty dumps the price so they will delay the payment is a dumb announcement. They just want to delay the payment because they are fear to give us the payment that deserves to us.

I can agree with this. Even bounty hunters make the price to drop, it should be temporary, not a long time. If the price is getting drop day after day, while no improvement at all. It should have a problem with the project or the team itself. If the people don't have a high interest to buy the token/coin in the market, they must realize something wrong with the project. So, it has nothing to do with the bounty hunters.

Bounty hunters spend their time to promote the project. Time also costs money.
Bounty hunters should not agree to work for tokens of new projects that are not yet traded on the exchanges. Because they do not cost anything and quite often it turns out that bounty hunters work for free.
As soon as bounty hunters start to appreciate their time and stop working for tokens, they will be valued much better.

Everyone goes through the stress, but it’s always worst for the hunters. Look at the case of managers, yes they do go through a lot of struggles but they have already been paid for the work they are doing, even if they are suffering to do the work it’s what they were paid to do and I believe they possibly charged the rate that will be worth all the stress they will have to go through.

But in the case of hunters, they have a lot of works to do with hope that they are going to get paid. Some of them work hard and dedicate their time to the bounty, only to be disappointed at last and not get paid. So hunters go through the most here.

Complaining continues to be useless, and will not solve the problem. The only way indeed every project should be to use escrow and this is important
for the convenience of bounty participants. So it is likely that participants will not be paid will not happen.

When it comes to bounties every body is hurt, both bounty hunters and bounty managers, I'm not trying to erase the fact that some bounty managers are bad but not all bounty managers are bad either, it's not easy to manage a bounty project most times, if bounty managers don't escrow the tokens there is nothing the BM can do, once the bounty campaign is over it's left for the team to keep their promises and if the team failed to keep their promises there is nothing that bounty manager can do

all bounty hunters would experience this including me there are so many symptoms that make bounty hunters suffer The essence of this problem is that before joining the bounty you must be careful so that the work does not go to waste or you can find a bounty manager that uses the escrow system at least avoid fraud when the bounty is over

For some members of the forum, they are against and not supporting bounty hunters because they said they keep harming and tarnishing the forum but actually bounty hunters are the reason why the communication to each other in the forum is good. I also experienced to joined in bounty where they did not pay me, of course it is really frustrating because I really worked hard in order to for me to promote the products and services that they are offering. For me it is the reason why I became choosy in terms of joining in bounty campaigns.

time generally don't cost money ,say you spend time for playing games and watching t.v , these don't pay you but if you spend time on working ,you are going to get paid .

bounties with tokens that aren't listed are rarely found thats why they risk on most common form of bounties but there were also cases that a hunter joined a bounty with a listed coin but still ended like being scammed because they got nothing left to sell after getting the coins due to the dumped value  .

This is one of the reason I transfer to Bitvest I was burned on doing bounty campaign on ICO and IEO, I never had a decent a decent income for the last two years the most I made was $100 on a three months works, they reduce the rewards, locked the token did not distribute or forget the bounty hunters, have been to so many abused by these past management, until now the abuse is still on going.

The problem is that 95 % of the bounties do offer tokens that are not listed on major exchanges. In 2017-2018, I participated in more than 30 bounties, only 1 got listed on binance ...
These days, interesting and good bounties are rarely found...

yes, it's not free but bounty hunters don't spend a lot of money like investors, bounty hunters only lose energy, thoughts and pay internet bills, so it's natural that we are treated unfairly by the team

What of those that will promise the token will be distributed after 6 months and the time has come and past, nothing happened. Blockburn is an example of such, going to a year now, the team refused to distribute the reward for hunters that works tirelessly for 3 months. It is just pathetic the way bounty hunters are treated as slaves.

Projects team shouldn't introduced bounty campaigns If they aren't ready to pay, blaming bounty hunters is lame honestly, lack of volume and liquidity is what makes a token or coin dumps, if there is enough volumes on good exchanges the coin or token will recover very fast or even some times the token will still maintain it's value when dump is ongoing.

Most developers have no shame, they easily put blame on bounty hunters because they have nothing else to blame than bounty hunters, this type of developers have low experience about crypto and they are probably here just to take advantage of crypto and make some money, my advice is to always look the project utility very well before promoting

1. Before promoting any bounty try to accept the fact that not all bounties will keep their promises.
2. Your research skills will bring you closer to new promising project, so don't choose bounties randomly or because of their allocations
3. It's better and safer to find bounties from high reputable bounty managers, they mostly keep their promises

You really noticed and told everything very accurately. But I can make a small amendment to your word. The Bounty manager can not always be a guarantee of the decency of the project developers. I personally encountered a problem when the TenTum project team deceived Not only the bounty hunters, but also the bounty manager.

Good  point, you need to relied with your own understanding not just to pick it up randomly or because of huge amount of value of tokens,
none of that will help you to succeed. You have to continually assess and keep following the project it will bring you to a much decent chanes that there's potentials within the project and value will take place once the hunts being ended.

In this case, the first thing to do is to get to know the developers better, study their roadmap and tokenomics. After all, bounty hunters are the ones who lead the project to success, but they can also become the catalyst for the failure of a bad project. If the tokenomics of the project is compiled rationally, then the moment the hunters start selling rewards, the project will not suffer.

The venture consistently assign just a limited quantity of rate for the abundance crusade, Regardless of knowing the quantities of member. I experience each time there is a trick in the venture that I follow When burnt out on following bounties that don't pay abundance trackers like me, we simply surrender since we can't do a lot, just karma will come to covetous individuals who would prefer not to pay abundance trackers.

The biggest problem why this happens is because bounty hunters are increasing day by day and there the demand is decreasing because of that and the project knows that they can do anything they want but still get more and more bounty hunters.

I wish there was some quality control because were times when bounty hunters were respected and in fact they cheated a lot of projects by multi accounting but right now the opposite is happening as they are being treated cruelly and denied their payments. This might continue for a long time given the amount of people who are ready to work for such cheap prices and some even bear the risk of not getting paid.

It's not easy to become a bounty hunter, to enjoy bounty hunting you must be willing to work for free and not take things too serious because some times you won't get anything in return, bounty hunting have become an addiction that's why I'm still here, there are different projects that failed me since 2019 but still I'm here because few good ones paid me very well, adapt to the pain or quit bounty once and for all.

Bounty hunters are playing a major role for a project to get succeed but their words remain unsung all the times just because of their availability is vast and ready to take offers from the project even when they are nit clear about the future of the projects because hunters consider it as free money but they don't realize it as something they make for the efforts made.So better we can change then asking the whole system to be changed.Stop promoting the projects which is not having good managers or escrow.

It's never a must to promote projects, if you can't withstand not getting paid few times stop promoting bounties that failed to use Escrow or go for btc paying campaigns in service section, you are seeing lots of pain yet you are still joining, aren't you the ones punishing yourself?

The real pain is when they are blamed for the failed projects. You work hard to provide something for the project, you wear their signature, you share them on twitter facebook and instagram you go around telling people about it, you refer friends and tag strangers and add members to their telegram and after all of that sometimes you do not even get paid for it, but when you do end up getting paid for it and the price plumments because you want to get paid and cash out for your hard work, they blame you for the dropping price.

Why is it always the bounty hunters who crash the price? Maybe the project wasn't good enough that it couldn't find buyers big enough to cover the bounty prizes that were sold? Shouldn't it be projects responsibility to keep the price high no matter what? Why blame bounty hunters who want to be paid?

Temtum bounty manager is legit but dev isn't legit. He cheated with the kyc process. Reputable manager isn't enough until the escrow process. We can trust any manager if the escrow process is OK. But we can't do anything in general rules because teams have the right to change everything but there must be some rules about how much change is possible.

Just like other things bounty payments should be guaranteed and i think there should be regulation on this atleast by bigger countries.
Every new project invests from out of pocket in website development, whitepaper, team, advisors. Similarly they should also have a base budget for bounty campaign so that in case of failure for project to raise funds the hunters could be paid for the work.

Any control over the free market from a third party is unacceptable.

If they have to lock coins to stop people from dumping it it means the coin has no value and the one you see is fake.

When you see a coin team do this you know you've done a bounty for a shitcoin that will never be worth anything. Such actions will never make people hold the coin just postpone the inevitable dump.

Descriptions are really on point. First and foremost for bounty hunters it is advisable not to immediately promoting a project that has not been studied, you must consider things above that before promoting. But as a fact, you need to take a risk if you want to advance but also need a thorough study so as not to waste of efforts and time to produce good results in the future.

In doing our job, we should take it seriously if we won't to suffer the consequences of neglect. Like when we join bounty and fill form.
But, we mustn't take serious to count bounty reward before the bounty end. Because not all bounty rewards is same when its distribution.

Many bounty manager don't know how painful, it is to someone bounty hunter who participate in the campaign, from the beginning to the end but to get the payment from the manager will take another many month to receive the payment.
Many bounty hunter really feel bad when there is a delay in  payment because they will start thinking, if their campaign was not successful at the end of the campaign or maybe  there is error in the campaign that is making the manager not to pay for the exercise. Delay and silent are most of the things that make many hunter feel bad with the manager until the manager now explain the cause of the delay of their payment, for them to know that manager is still making everything possible to make sure they get their payment soon.

The bounty hunter was very disappointed when the payment was delayed for unclear reasons, promised to pay the reward immediately but when the promised time came, the reward didn't pay off as I feel now. have you ever felt the same way?

I have encountered this situation so many times, i think not only you but also the others are no exception. The bounty hunters can't do anything (only wait), their procrastination reasons don't need you to feel justified or not. I used to participate in a bounty campaign and had to wait 5 months.

There is a Life outside this forum,Don't engaged your self if you think that there are too many Mistakes and unfair in places where you trying to earn money.

Welcome to Cryptocurrency and welcome to The forum in where is Good Guys are only few and Bad guys are all over.

Too many issues from Bounty hunters and their respective Expected payments.

That's why it is called Bounty Hunting because there is no assurance of profiting and actually?
almost Majority of those Bounties are Liar and Misleading so try to find Life outside this forum if you are not comfortable and Contented .

Yeah, there are some cheater hunters indeed, but not all hunters are cheater.
Bounty hunters has been treated as dumper, while actually the price is not affected only by hunters alone.
The bad thing often happens is when you join the campaign, the price of the token is really good, then later before distribution, the price is dump as hell, some people blame bounty hunters, even when they still haven't receive the token.  ;D

those who regularly take part in bounty campaigns faced situations with refusal to pay a reward. sometimes the project failed, sometimes simply refused to pay. so bounty hunter should move forward and just forget about such situations.

Because they've written "we reserve a right to... " rules, so they can change the rules and distribution if they wanted to do.
You can't blame them since you're joining a bounty with such rules.

I also see things like that are not impossible for several reasons that the team had to make this decision, maybe because they are busy with their products and can also maintain price stability in the market so that they make uncertain decisions.
Surely this will be very disappointed by promoting for so long, but in fact it is not as expected, so we as hunters must accept it because we cannot do anything but wait for updates from them.

What does it mean that bounty is not one of the active parts of Bitcointalk?
We all know about the specials from this forum, yes it is a bounty program,
for those who do not have expertise such as design it will be difficult to make money here,
that's what happens here, although waiting 100 days is part of a risk that must be accepted.

I would like to add this; the reason why most project call bounty hunters dumpers is that when a new token is listed, most of the time the total trading volume is small and majority of the order come from selling and not buying so no matter how good the project is, when hunters continuously sell their token, the price will further fall with little hope of recovering again. There has been continuous improvement in the way bounty is managed in order to reduce the chances of spam and fake entries. It is the responsibility of the bounty managers to learn this approaches to make their work less stressful. With over 3 years experience in participating in bounty, I will tell you that there are many good managers here and there are bad ones too. It is also the responsibility of the bounty hunters to learn from their past experience with bounty managers.

Good point and also not all projects we promote will become successful, once there is a problem with fund raising there will be some draw back, the team might even decide to pay half of the bounty allocation instead, bounties can't be relied on until it ends and you see it's end results

You have a point in that dude, but there are projects campaign even you work on it seriously or I mean you comply it, if the BM are cheater the number one that will get affect is the bounty hunters. I've seen this several times in the forum and poor participants due He can't do anything about that kind of problems.

Not all bounties we promote will bring good results, some will become worthless before we get paid and some will be delayed, teams are different as they are humans just like so their behavior will be different too, some will be loyal and some will be mean. If you really want to be a bounty hunter you have to be ready for any good or bad news altogether and don't have to much hope on a project

You have my sympathy Guys though I never join a token paying campaign,i prefer myself from the very beginning to work in Bitcoin paying signature campaign ,Yeah the promise payment is smaller compared to Bounty project but at least in service section almost every campaign pays weekly there are few scams not like in Altcoin bounty section that Majority are scammers and just Fooling their hunters after the campaign they will take the money and gone .

I agree to the fact that bounty hunters should be given the due respect because they are here to help promote and market the project. The result of bounty campaign depends vastly on the quality of the project and how attractive it is for investors so in all situations bounty hunters who have performed the job should be paid  and thanked because they have done their job.

I've seen lots of this, so sad for the hardworking bounty hunters who helped the project to boost it and make them successful on their launching, the Bounty Manager should be the one who's responsible for this kind of things, but sometimes the Bounty Manager are the ones who make the bounty hunters suffer.

Right, they are good with those clauses, of course they have consulted a lawyer before making the rules of the bounty. To ensure that the advantage is always with the bounty managers and the owners of the project. All the bounty hunters would do is agree to the terms and move on in accomplishing their part in the bounty campaign. As I always say, move on is hards words to swallow but that is what we can do right now since we are in a deregulated space and decentralized structure then we are at the mercy of greedy companies, who don't pay their dues.

And that is also experienced by many other participants here in several other projects, so there is no need to be disappointed even though you have given them valuable time, where everything has ended in vain, and this will clearly be a good lesson for you and other people, that joining any project always has the risk of loss, namely the loss of time if the project becomes a scam, but it will be very profitable if the project becomes successful, now because of things like this everyone is required to always analyze all projects before we choose to join.

lots of people here already experienced that kind of scenario, you are lucky enough that you just participated for 2 months, unlike me I experience joining bounty program for almost 5 months and in the end I got nothing. I also experienced that I joined for a couple of months but the reward is not that much.

2 Months?my first Bounty engagement lasts for 6 months meaning that is half a year mate.

But what happened?after reaching the HardCap?lol the team runs away and even the Bounty Manager did not receive His payments,thats why I stay away from bouties and focus here in Bitcoin paying bounties.

When talking about pain of bounty hunters, I sometimes get emotional, because there are so many projects that don't appreciate bounty hunters.
I am most annoyed if the rewards for bounty hunters are postponed or locked, with reason that the sales of tokens have not reached the hard cap.
That's the most annoying excuse in my opinion, but nowadays there are many bounty altcoins that make payments per week. As gambling campaigns
have done, this is good news for bounty hunters.

Of course, I would like something to start to change for the better, but, unfortunately, this does not happen at our desire. The bounty manager does not decide how to distribute tokens. When and how much to distribute in DIA and CTSI projects was up to the project managers, not bubbalex.

Still bubbalex choose the projects very carefully, that's why projects like Cartesi and DIA keep their promises, they are high quality projects that don't want any thing to tarnish their credibility and reputation, only projects that don't care about reputations change rules on bounty hunters or refuse to pay bounty hunters

Escrow can lessen bounty hunters pain but still the risks is still there, many projects won't become successful due to lack of funds, some won't see good adoption or demand and the token or coin will lose value fast, bounty hunters might end up selling for pennies, you need to consider all risks before joining any bounty project

A matter of luck in most cases, like what you have said bounty value quickly dumped. You'll just see yourself holding coins without
any value working for such a long time with bounty works.

Escrow can guarantee the distribution but the value will depends from how the investors and traders will be interested to the project
without anything, the value will die along the way.

Be very careful joining with any bounty works. Focus with usages and good developers behind.

Well, there are still some good bounties though. Anyway, I have also been used as a Bounty hunter before, and yeah I experience all of that, wherein all the effort I put in was only became in vain after some devs runaway all the funds. Bitcoin paying bounties was really good however, it is very rare to find one though. I have one strategy on this one, I choose the bounty campaign where to participate depending on the manager who will manage it, if it is handled by a reputable one by then I will definitely join there simply because I don't see any reason to throw their image just for a couple of funds.

Abundance trackers are left powerless by numerous ventures and their missions since they need to work ahead of time and following quite a while of work the group can essentially deny trackers, some will play deferring strategies. Now and then the sentiment of disillusionment is available when the undertaking we are dealing with encounters disappointment and extortion, this is a danger we should confront and from that we should be more cautious in picking an abundance venture for us to chip away at to evade misrepresentation.

When discussing the pain of a bounty hunter, of course, payment has no value at all in the market,
that's what makes me disappointed, but now I'm sure the bounty will grow better,
It's a risk, but if it's like that then it's useless to be a bounty hunter, that's what bounty hunter pain.

every job, of course, has a risk. And I think every bounty hunter knows all that. the risk is known and remains a bounty hunter I think it is a thought that has been done deeply. when we join the campaign we must be prepared for the risks. In fact, when there are ups and downs of projects that can be worked on, bounty campaigns are always there and are an option for those who are loyal.

Take it or leave it, most times the projects you promote will have a bad ending, I meant it's not every time you will get rewards from the projects you promote, most of them won't give you anything in return so take bounties as side hustle, don't take it serious like a real job

Its only logical the Bounty Hunters deserve respect since everybody needs respect BUT it would be hard for Bounty Hunters to be respected if they are labeled to not be trusted. That is why we have our Trust System which is effective for most Bounty Managers to manage the hunters properly. These platforms should also start being examined by a legitimate group of reviewers so most Bounty Hunters can look for which project is to be trusted.

It isn't a real job, the person pursuing it probably won't have the money to cover living expenses. Most bounty hunters probably only work in their freetime because they may not get anything after a few months of work.

There should be rules and regulations that will be fair to both the hunters and thee managers. Most times the managers are the ones taking most of the heat while he hunters are at the receiving end.

As time has shown, there is no perfect algorithm for everyone to be happy: bounty hunters, BM and the project. And in these conditions, the only way out for us is a strict approach to the analysis of the project, although it does not give a 100% guarantee

Participating in bounties is like doing a volunteer job or doing worj just to get experience or knowledge. You dont sign any contracts, no one forces you to participate, no one makes a 100% promise to pay and you can leave when ever you want.

It is weard to read posts from hunters, that they demand something from project/project must pay/they work hard/every work must be rewarded, while all they do is join telegram channel and subscribe projects medium account or have done few click in twitter.

Bounty is full of uncertainty so it's best you keep doing because the one you neglect today maybe the one to give you what you want and theost anticipated one to pay well may end up not helping out. So I always tell people to keep trying and also check group because some bounties do close without anyone's knowledge. It's kinda painful though.

Most times when there's a huge token allocation to the bounty campaign, I think bounty hunters can dump the price of the token a little after their tokens are been distributed and they sell, but I feel it's not the fault of bounty hunters, cus most times the team behind the project just don't give enough to the project to make it a success,and it's really sad how most bounty hunters are treated, I think only a few number of bounty managers actually care about the participants, some bounty managers just go ahead to manage any project that comes their way, not minding if its going to be profitable for the bounty hunters or not.

That's why so many good posters prefer to participate in bounty campaigns where payment is made in bitcoins. Payment in tokens is always a risk, primarily the risk that the tokens of the project will cost cheap. However, sometimes there are really big rewards among such projects.
Personally, I prefer not to risk working for those who pay with promises.

This is not new when scammers using my profile but their ether Addrees! Sometimes they get paid cause manager fail to catch them but if found, then reject both user from the project, which is painful. Sometimes team force manager to create new bounty rules! Like "user must leave comment on telegram & annonucment thread" that's totally illegal and crime of thread bumping. User get red trust for follow those rules.

I think it's not just to catch scammers, but to make the group look active so it can attract lots of investors,
and actually the number of participants is not the reason BM fail in managing as long as the team that is holding the campaign anticipates every bad thing that will happen, this is something that must be done for the project to be successful.

Some very basic precautions can prevent this type of scamming. Experienced campaign managers always ask the users to put their ERC-20 address on the "Location" section of the Bitcointalk profile. This measure takes just 2 seconds and it surprises me that there are campaign managers who don't bother about it. Anyway, imposing a blanket ban is always time saving than identifying the potential cheaters.

It's not always about how long the bounty duration lasted for, I've joined a bounty for months and still end up with few dollars, I think 12$ maybe, and there are bounties that will just take you for 4 weeks and you will get a surprising reward in the end

You can't keep getting positive results from every bounties you join, some will do you right and some will be so mean, you just have to accept the pain and keep trying, if you are looking for a solution to this you are wasting your time, bounties is all about luck now even if you are too good at doing research

I knew about temtum bounty campaign, I heard the team decide to implement and force bounty hunters to do KYC, those who failed to submit ID are left out, this isn't bounty managers fault, it's the project team fault for not staying true to their words

It's called bounty hunting for a reason and that's because there is no guarantee of getting anything in return, if you can't accept this you have no place in bounty hunting space, quit and leave already, taking the task of a bounty hunter without knowing what's all about is wrong

I have said it before and I'll try to say it again. If you manage any bounty, ask owners to send you all the tokens beforehand so you can distribute it to hunters on time and there will be no issue of these kind. Most of issues you have mentioned arise due to scammers running a project that they don't really care about and they don't distribute their tokens on time which result in hunters not getting paid and managers getting blamed for it. Don't bite more than you can chew. If you can't manage 1000 people then put a limitation to the number that you can manage.

You may not get the great result from each bounty you sign up but as long as above steps are taken your reputation will be unaffected.

You got that right, professional bounty campaign managers will never accept to manage a campaign they know it's not going to be successful, they really do think like investors,at the moment only a few bounties in are managed by reputable bounty managers, the rest are just newbies, manging campaigns that might turn out to be a scam, I have seen alot of them and the campaigns are on going now, alot of newbies are getting involved too, I just hope they don't get scammed or end up with dead tokens in their wallets.

Only Amepay bounty is paying participants per week in altcoin section, the others are bitcoin paying campaigns and we all know that they accept participants with different rules like

1. If you have no 10 merit since 120 days ago don't join
2. If you haven't been posting in gambling section don't join
3. High ranked members allowed only, no room for members and full members some times

Smart hunters won't hesitate to dump their tokens because most bounty projects are not reliable but when they promote quality projects they will want to hold, for example DiA project, some bounty hunters are still holding their tokens because the project isn't a joke

What makes DIA so serious? I'm not telling that it is a joke, but I cant understand why the price has not recovered to what is was months ago? I remember the price was around 3-4 us dollars before bounty distribution. Before distributing first part of rewards it has dropped to 1-1.3 us dollars and stays on this level for 2+ months. Since then, what has been announced? Stacking campaign on Binance and airdrop for holders?

Of course there is and no discussion about that though the problem is we can Count it on our fingers,that is how rare good bounties now while scams are spreading the whole altcoin section with their different strategy and approach.
Actually this is what bothers me when some Projects claims to be successful as they have reached the HardCap but after the bounty they will also gone lol.
yups though comparing to bounty allocation Bitcoin paying campaign is smaller but at least the percentage of being scam is 1/1000 meaning safer and our work always has a value.

I have nothing to complain about in bounty hunting field anymore since the problems still remains and no solution so far, ive decide no to quit bounty even when the problems are still available, whatever happens i will still consider bounties unless 99% of bounties aren't paying anymore, we have too many bad artists in this space that's why Bounties results are very bad today

Before it was all about getting to the higher rank at a faster rate then you will be happy joining bounties that gives higher pay to users of higher rank. Now it is hard to level up with the merit system. You must have post that have value and people will give you merit thus propelling your account higher levels. I am not sure if that is still the case because this was implemented many years ago. With me being active in the forum everyday I think I should be at a higher level. But that is not the case.

In general, the main problems of Bounty Hunters are unpaid rewards or coins from junk or fraudulent projects in which the hunter took part. And it all boils down to the fact that the Bounty Hunter is not getting real pay for his labor. In addition, it must be admitted that even if you conduct a research project, this does not give one hundred percent guarantee that this project is promising and, accordingly, receive remuneration for your work, and there is no guarantee of the future value of this remuneration. Of course, there have been very few Bounty companies lately, but most of them, at least those to which I pay attention, may well be promising.
My advice, Follow reputable bounty managers.

Regarding the topic we can say that it's a very interesting subject to discuss but we must go back a little in the past to show some facts. In the last 4 months of 2017 the level of investors and large companies in the crypto has increased absurdly causing many hunters to work insanely (laughs) and I was one of them. However, the amount of account fraud on multiple accounts made many people rich because of the amount of reward they acquired. Another factor that we can analyze is the amount of spam and meaningless messages in the forum so Theymos the administrator of the forum together with the administrative team had the idea to create a system of merit ending once and for all all frauds and greed of the hunters. In season had seen people with 30 accounts and with that.


We see how far human greed goes.

Absolutely, that is why even if we are not depositing any amount of money and we are earning, we are exerting time and effort for us to make a profit by supporting particular projects at that time. It is one of the lessons that we can use until now that we should consider many things before supporting the particular project because it is indeed true that there are lots of projects out there that are good but still there are scam projects which intend to steal other people's money.

Bounty hunters work hard but they don't get their payments in maximum times. Team cheat with this marketing promotional parts after bounty ended. This is really very sad and they don't consider to be the part of the success of their project.

This is a history of abusers made the whole bounty campaigns hard now. Those who happily abused campaigns before finding it really hard to take advantage of the bounty campaigns now. The merit system is I think appropriate right for this forum so abusers can't continue to abuse campaigns. They might also abuse even bitcoin paid signature campaign by just registering multiple accounts. The trash post that abusers did before were reduced due to the merit system. This is healthy for the forum and the projects that are promoting here. I remember those days that obvious alt accounts are enrolling on a single campaign  ::)

Thanks for your post, I agree with you on everything.
I stopped to take part in Bounty campaigns in 2019 for exactly these reasons.
I returned a month ago, the situation has not changed.
I'm afraid nothing will change.
Our forum is too passive.

yes agree your words see not all fake account that's right and of course there are those real account work really hard ,well still many bounty manager respect hunters and that's a very generous adult attitude in my view and it all depends on the attitude hunter too ,if he looks good and doesn't behave bad of course a manager will be more polite ,I think attitude is the most important in all area

I do not know why some of the campaigns do not want to pay hunters and for that they sometime intentionally delay distribution or introduce new rules and other excuses. I mean if you cannot afford to pay the reward you can try other options and skip bounty campaign or you can lower the campaign budget but you should make sure that each and every hunter is paid for the work he has completed.

When others are receiving their benefit from the bounty campaign that ended for some months, and others are not receiving base on, they carry out the same bounty that make the manager to pay some and live some unpaid really hurt bounty hunter. It make them feel bad when they saw others be paid, where other be left unpaid in the exercise that just ended,
Some feel bad when you reduce their payment base on the way they carry out their campaign which the manager is not too satisfy with, can also make bounty hunter not to be happy.

Well, the conditions for Radix were known initially, and each of the bounty hunters had the right to decide to participate in the project or pass it by. In other words by joining we took these risks on ourselves))

Yes, if a project fails, then they would only pay the bounty hunter a heap of trash.
Until now the bounty hunter still depends on the project and its success. The bounty hunter will need two prayers, the first they pray for the project to be successful and the second they pray for the development team to pay.

I think everyone should consider bounty hunter work as a side job and get it done in their spare time.
You should have a major job outside of your life enough to pay your bills, don't expect too much on bonus programs.

Not every bounty hunter that dumped the coin and I'm not in support of that, because they are set of that invest on the project, through bounty information, sell at a lower rate, which affect the market or regret later in life.

Its really sad when thousands of hardworking bounty hunters work hard for any project, make an vital role for gather investors and contribute a lot during tokensale but therefore they get neglected.they won't be rewarded for their work, even team start distribution when the project already lost the liquidity!even then they blame hunters responsible for their dead project when its not possible to kill any project by using 1% of that project

If you are looking for bounties then ranking is a big aspect and with the new system it will weed out all the spam and it is a rather good system and if you are able to spend good time then you are most likely to be getting merits to get ranked.

Looks like writing a few words and sharing things in social media is the hardest job in the world  :D. Cheating by campaign managers and scammers is another topic altogether but i will laugh when someone says hard job.

Yes everyone should be thinking like this, we can expect all our cost of living in bounty campaign, we should make bounty program as a side job, so if something wrong happens, we not worry because it's not our main job

Become bounty hunter at this moment is hard, so many fail projects, and hard to choose the good one, but we must responsible for all our decision because no one forced to join in specific bounty

I made a post about the Oikos project, they didn't give my rewards without any reason. Bounty hunters' pain is much dipper than others. Every project made fake points to distribute but the Oikos project made a weak one. They said distribution is over but I got zero rewards without any transaction history. Terracredit is another one without no value in the market.

All this things you talked about seems true, I'm still a newbie here and I don't have much idea about bounty campaign works, well I guess I just participate fully in one and see how it goes.

Yes, do bonuses with your free time, never treat bonuses as a main job. At the moment projects fail and scams are numerous, the bounty hunter may have to work for months and be unable to gain anything.

Yes, I personally only make bonuses in my spare time, and at the moment it is hardly any income for me.
The majority of bounty programs at the moment have not been successful, some projects are listed on trades with too many participants resulting in very little rewards.

Yes, Now a days Bounty hunder loss time and time. Bounty hunder payment is not enough. Bounty scam after a few days and the capital raise scam with investors.  Not all Bounty is bad, there are many good Bounty which has given hunters a very good profit.

yes you are correct, imaging after all the hard work and stress on working for a bounty for months and they didn't pay you at last. i think measures should be taken to make sure that all project conforms to their promise. 

Not all of the bounty hunters though.

It is true that there are a lot of them working hard not just to earn their percentage but also to help the project invite or call more investors. But the problem is that there are still those that just want their part and just don't care about that. I can't blame some projects to not care about them but I can also say that there are poor bounty hunters that do their best yet they are suffering the reason a lot of these hunters stopped.

 is so disappointing and very bad that someone will work for months without getting paid at last, after all the stress, and also because of that most people are very careful on the type of project they participate, in other for them not get hurt at last.

Being a bounty hunter is a lot of pain, and of course pain is a risk,
from not being paid to being paid and the result is zero, because the token price is so cheap it doesn't even have a price,
that's the pain of a bounty hunter, we must have a grateful to the god.

I feel sorry for you, this is something that every bounty hunter should not experience, we are here to make a living out of doing bounty hunty, we want to follow the rules so we can receive our rewards, but depriving of the reward that you rightly deserve is just not right, you should create a formal complain the reputation or scam section.

Right on. Every time I got scammed out of a bounty I make sure to spread it's a scam all around the internet. I'm quite good at SEO and ranking low competitive keywords so it's not that hard to out these scammy projects and prevent others from getting scammed. Always do your due diligence before jumping on the bounty train for a certain project.

yeah, you have good intentions man. but I also know that being a bounty hunter is sometimes not always what we expect, sometimes there are many good problems about the projects we are participating in, such as not getting tokens for some reasons, sometimes having tokens but not having a selling price in the market, and of course there are many other things too.

I am used to experiencing pain as a bounty hunters, because it is difficult to find projects that give big rewards. We, as bounty hunters,
are always blamed if the project costs a dump, then bounty hunters are often delayed in payment. Not if the projects failed, then the bounty
hunters ended up as well. Therefore, bounty hunters must have the patience to face the suffering they are experiencing.

It proves that working hard doesn't always pay off because if there is no guarantee that you will earn profit from all of your efforts, you are obviously wasting your time and energy. I think it is okay for bounty hunters to stop participating or joining in bounty projects because even some of them are not putting a lot of effort into it, they still manage to make an effort to it to help the project to gain investors, so they should be rewarded for it.

I can understand your pain because I am also bounty hunter and I can feel bad when we worked well for any project but in the end they refuse to pay.
In my opinion it's not the fault for spammers or multiple account holders while bounty manager kicked out all spammers and cheaters so on the other hand few projects don't to pay so they raise this issue that bounty hunters spam their projects, I don't want to mention projects name here because I am still touch with them Hope they will pay.
Seriously We need real bounty management where we get rewarded with less $$ but atleast rewarded.  

You have just expressed my situation and situation of all the bounty hunters, most of the people still thinks it's bounty hunters who are responsible for the dump but they get a very little percentage of tokens that too very rarely as most of the bounties cheats on us by not giving token or changing rules towards the end of project or dumping their already dumped tokens.

The world economy is almost dead for the COVID-19 virus. People have no source of income so they are being forced to rely on online. From these threads I can see that the previous people are getting lost. Because they do not want to do useless things. Most of the work on the thread is scam or fraud. Newbie have come here to see the light of new hope and they are forging. They are using the information of previous people effortlessly and include multiple ID. Everyone is feeling the pain, the manager on one side and Hunter on the other. The new trouble is with Newbie.

The pain of bounty hunters can't describe in a word if they hurt for a project. I am also a bounty hunter and I worked to manage some bounties in the backend along with some amazing people. But hunters always become victims for not paying them or for not getting expected rewards. They promote the bounty for getting enough to fundraise in a short time. So they work hard and some of them can be proved as a cheater for scamming. But max people work hard for the project and they deserve enough rewards. So the pain can not be described shortly.

Very simple and easy, if you are still a beginner, then it's better to always study several projects so that you can get a comparison in terms of following them, because not all current projects can be good for you to follow, so before you waste a lot of time on all projects, how come better to make some research on it.

well , how to say , i know every shit happening on bounty campaign , believe me , i've active since 2015 on bounty , and of course, as the time goes, everything gonna be hard. i wont judge bounty manager if he/she being rude to participant, since mostly participant have no brain, just complain like a wild beast.
well , its another problem which basically came from investor, i just joined some of bounty campaign , which investor want reduced the bounty location. how bounty participant want complaint ? since the most money for the project came from him , and bounty manager dunno what must to do, the good one , campaign still going , eventhough there are still some bounty participants who complain.

Bounty hunter work hard but they don,t get proper value.  Now, bounty hunter are face many problems. Because,They work many projects. But, they do not get right payment. Because, most of the projects are scam projects. I am also a bounty hunter. I did worked many project but I got some payment from some project.But i don't get bountyes. As a result many  bounty hunters losing thier faith in this platform.

I'm glad that there's someone like you Op who appreciates the effort of bounty hunters and you know the real pain that we're going through. I think bounty hunters should be valued by each project as we value our task to advertise your projects as well. Everyone should be treated well because most of us are fighting our own battles and we only rely on bounty hunting during this pandemic crisis. I hope our efforts would always be appreciated and would get rewarded accordingly.

You can't really tell which projects are scam now lol. Scammers have been so good these days. You can't also blame the victims here. Some of them do researches of course, but no one can really predict what the future will provide thus, you can't tell whether the project will succeed or not.

but for bounty hunters, they have a lot of work to do in hopes of getting paid. Some of them work hard and dedicate their time to gifts, only ending up disappointed and not getting paid. So the hunters go through the most here and it hurts more to get nothing while promoting their project.

There is not much you can do about it. For example, I don't like the fact that many bounty hunters are able to participate in projects that frankly look like scam. I understand that now is a difficult time, and everyone needs money, but it has always been that way. Our task is to support only good projects, and we should not shift the responsibility for analysis to bounty managers, they are people like us.

Work on finding out if a project is high quality or not is your job, this will limit the disappointment of not receiving payments from many bounties atleast, learn to do good research and choose projects that have what it takes to be successful

I am a new one in a bounty hunting actually, wanted to know your opinion (since you look kind of professional) is this a worthy bounty campaign? Have participated in some of their campaigns, it was fine, but just wanted to hear your opinion!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287101.new#new

Yes, it clearly feels and hurts a lot, but it is also a risk that must be borne by the bounty participant when he enters the bounty without looking and analyzing in depth first on each bounty, so don't blame them when you feel sick in this regard bounty.

isnt that more dissapointing when you done all research and thinks the project is worth a shot but in the end it wont pay you but joining random projects can give less dissapointment if they dont pay you because you dont exert effort for researching if they are good or not .
 im not saying that all must not do a research but this can be the reality that a bounty hunter might feel if he is serious on finding a good bounty  .
researching is still a must to do because this increase the success rate of hunting bounties than trying by only luck involved

We all are know that bounty hunter work hard and work properly but many time the hunters get not proper result. This is painful for the hunters. Because, most of the projects are scam projects. I am also a bounty hunter. I did worked many project but I got some payment from some project.But i don't get bountyes. As a result many  bounty hunters losing thier faith in this platform.So this is the pain thing of bounty hunter.

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There are some major painful thing are happend with bounty hunter. The biggest pain for the hunter is when the project refuses to pay for the work done or cuts the remuneration for the work done.And many project are scam which thing are very painful for hunter that because of the hunter work first to last but they get not proper profit.Finally they face many pain.

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Bounty hunters are left vulnerable by numerous projects and their campaigns since they need to work ahead of time and following quite a while of work the team can just deny hunters, some will play postponing strategies, some will acquaint new guidelines to claim reward tokens, that will decrease qualified participants. So, hunters are mishandled in my methodologies and their should be some third party that fights for bounty hunters right.

Look easy to know who are serious bounty campaign and cheat because you can check with their social media account using, if bounty manager could identify this problem I think is very bad thing how to solve this problem. I still waiting with bounty campaign manager contribution how to promote with good project because I found many bad campaign without continue for listing coin on the market although manage by experience bounty campaign manager, looking with good bounty campaign maybe enough with who promote the campaign and always give good reputation with how many campaign manage before.

I  support your statement they truly are, most of them do not care about their promoters they lock Emirex locked their token for bounty hunters until it's become worthless, others delayed distribution sometimes do not send at all, it's really disheartening to lose your effort because these developers don't care at all.

after all we don't do anything, the gradual distribution is also good for a project,
because we know that the direct distribution of bounties will make the Dump happen,
and there have been many cases like that, for Emirex we have to be really patient, that's a risk become a bounty hunter.

Excellent article. I participated in a lot of bounty projects, and I can say that today it is almost impossible to earn something, a huge amount of scam, before there were many projects that for various reasons could not become successful, but they really tried. Today, more than 50% is originally scam. This is very sad, I hope that this forum will take measures to reduce fraud as much as possible.

It's really painful to end up with zero after months of promoting new projects but most times that this happens it's our faults, the way we do research are of different levels, some will say they've done good research and they will still end up promoting a scam bounty project, let's work on how we do research cos that's the only solution

Yes bonuty hunter is painful i have so many examples let's see first  bonuty manager telling limited members bonuty telling then jioned so may bonuty hunters next what happened limited members increase this not right members increase reward is decreased . next somay Bonuty manager is not giving all Bonuty hunters tokens give only some Bonuty hunters why bonuty manager telling all tokens are giving bonuty hunter price is going to be down project is not good how to price increase. next bounty Projects are pushed what is next somay Bonuty hunters doing wark in 1 or 2 months weeks report submitted next project is stopping it's very painful bonuty hunter. next bonuty manager telling price is different then sell Tranding price bonuty hunter hope price comming is good but low price trading token it's very painful bonuty hunter

That is the risk we take in participating in the bounty, it has been a long time to work but the results are a scam, but some have only done it for a while, the results are very satisfying.
 From there we have to be smart to learn a new project before we follow it, so that we are not disappointed at the end of the bounty

Exactly, most especially when that project goes up then they refuse to pay. I’ve been experienced a lot of that, I can’t forget when that certain project goes well then when the time need to pay, they disqualified account for no reasons and i am one of them. That is really hurts because you put time and effort then they are not going to pay you. But we need to continue and forget the past.

now from what you explain it shows that no one can guarantee what you do from participating in the bounty campaign, you should not expect to be successful, just do what is assigned and if it is successful then consider it as your bonus so when you have do that will not feel disappointed again.

Everything that has been said is totally true, there are still many bounty hunters who really work hard and give all their efforts just to gave the quality that the project is looking for and to satisfied them as well even at the end there is no assurance of us whether we will get paid for many months of work or not. Also, that is true that bounty hunter should not be blamed for the price of a certain coin/token being dumped because if you take a look the bounty allocation is always has the smallest portion of the total token supplies.

For me the problem here is the project I guess, If the project has a good target and good platform and if its very helpful this one has chance a massive adoption they it can produced demand for the token/coin/crypto. but is hasn't any utility this will result a huge dump.

Being a bounty hunter in my past when I am newbie, I joined on any bounty campaign because I only knows that is income for me and I don't care at all if this is scam or not productive and active project. I got a lot of mistakes when I'm newbie.

I must confess, we bounty hunters witness one or more pain ever since we started hunting bounty. Imagine working for some months and later find out that the founder of the project is no where to found again. After work with sleepless nights. This is just tiring and sometimes makes someone weak. I believe it's because most of the project owners didn't do their home very well, and probably due to lack of investors. I'm sharing my major pain and concern- when the project manager promise to distribute and they refused to do so on time putting hunters mind on high expectations. Hoping they will receive the reward. And they will never do such as promised before the coin price dump.
It gives me so much heartbreak.

We all are know that most of the hunter work hard, but they do not get proper profit from those bounty.Exactly, most especially when that project goes up then they refuse to pay. I’ve been experienced a lot of that, I can’t forget when that certain project goes well then when the time need to pay, they disqualified account for no reasons and i am one of them. That is really hurts because you put time and effort then they are not going to pay you. But we need to continue and forget the past.. Because, most of the projects are scam projects. I am also a bounty hunter. I did worked many project but I got some payment from some project.But i don't get bountyes. As a result many  bounty hunters losing thier faith in this platform.So this is the pain thing of bounty hunter.

It does not happen with every bounty hunter but I agree in some cases real bounty hunters duped due to impostor participate in the name of him/her and got reward as well and some time we received coins that are not even worth a total 1$ value even I have several coins in my portfolio that not even worth the Gas fee charged to transfer to the exchange to sell and that really pains.

I am one of the bounty hunter's feeling disappointed that I felt when the project delayed distribution and the price of tokens became cheap.

I can understand your pain. The first time I participated in a bounty was almost three years ago. Back then the number of participants was small, and the rewards per user was high. But things changed after that. There was an influx of tens of thousands of new bounty hunters and the proportion of scam projects and failed projects increased. And this is the reason why the payments became erratic and smaller.

wasted work is one of the most painful things for bounty hunters,
but it is the risk of a job as a bounty hunter, just do it and enjoy this job,
lest you get caught in the pain.

 Now, bounty hunter are face many problems. Bounty hunter work hard but they don,t get proper value.They work many projects. But, they do not get right payment. Because, most of the projects are scam projects. I am also a bounty hunter. I did worked many project but I got some payment from some project.But i don't get bountyes. As a result many  bounty hunters losing thier faith in this platform.This is the most painful thing for bounty hunter.

I hope that new year will bring high quality campaigns with good rewards so that the hunters could be compensated by the market as last few years have proven to be a nightmare for hunters.

Its most painful to me when bounty hunters are blamed for market dump, this part is the most irritating part for me, but then , what can we do, ive participated in many bounty programs where i did my work diligently expecting reward but at the end , i ended up with tokens i cant be able to sell cus no one wants to buy them , this happens to many bounty hunters and from this, ive ;learnt many lessons ,i just pray the the crypto industry continue to and that we enter a time where bounty hunters will be respected for the contribution in the success of the project they promote.

the experience you mention I have had that's how being a bounty hunter is always wrong when a dump occurs whereas dump actually occur because there is little interest in the market or investors sell their bonuses simultaneously And it hurts the most when the bounty has been end, many project owners cut  allocations at will they don't even pay at all

Have been hunting for couples of years now, so i understand what you are saying, bounty hunting is not that easy, there are alot of honest hunters stressing day and night promoting projects with the hope of been rewarded at last for their hard labour and after this, they still got the blame of dumping price even with the small amount of token received as bounty reward, I just pray for better days for bounty hunters.

a very complex problem about bounty hunters. many mention as project destroyers but many also mention helping a project be successful. It looks like the project developer has to be good at managing the circulation and expenses required for marketing. Thanks for link thread

Most of the bounty Managers I'm not saying all but some of them are hiding something. How did I say that? because I know some of you
noticed this in most bounty projects where there are some BM who lied to their first announcement in the bounty thread, in what way?
Like they will said there is no KYC required then after the bounty campaign finished the first statement was suddenly changed where all bounty hunters need to submit KYC or else they won't receive the rewards token, and this is really unfair and this BM is abusing their position to get the token of the other participants who will not submit KYC just simple as that, it maybe hurt but true.

This the way how bounty campaign management get double reward as bounty manager and they try to make chance how bounty participants difficulty without pass KYC and their reward will automatically on bounty campaign manager wallet. I know with many time joined bounty campaign suddenly they change rule from wallet until change how bounty participants have pass KYC to received reward, but bounty manager always give announcement on deadline day and many participants miss KYC and not change their address, so how the reward for bounty participants will back to the project or back to bounty manager wallet, just think by your self.

Actually it often happens in several bounty campaigns, and the rules can change at any time if their CEO / team wants it, there must be things that the CEO / Team / BM will see about the Bounty campaign, for example to avoid users who have multiple accounts, or who steal link to other people's articles or also steal other people's YouTube links, because what BM has to do is prevent the fraud from entering the campaign, and in the end make the decision to do KYC, so that this bounty campaign will run well, I only take my positive thoughts, if there is a difference in thinking that's a normal thing, maybe there are those who agree with my thoughts, on this matter ..

Once bitten is twice shy, always remember the name of such bounty manager and stop joining any of his future projects, such bounty manager can't be trusted, a reputable bounty manager will never go back on his word, No KYC is NO KYC

Why do they need them steady? To drop it immediately? I just dont understand hunters that need their coins or tokens here and now, while they are not listed anywhere? What are they going to do with them? Just look them and imagine how rich they are, while calculating token price via ICO or sale price?

As long as hunters value their free time so cheap (by participating in each and every campaign without being selective), they will be scammed with distributions.

If you do well with your research the chance of ending up with good outcome will take place, given all those possibilities there are still lots of

bounty hunters who are willing to work and willing to take the risk participating with unsure campaigns, looking for luck and for responsible

developers to pay them out and enjoy the rewards.

Bounty hunter have a lot of pain. There are some major painful thing are happend with bounty hunter. The biggest pain for the hunter is when the project refuses to pay for the work done or cuts the remuneration for the work done.And many project are scam which thing are very painful for hunter that because of the hunter work first to last but they get not proper profit.Finally they face many pain.This is the pain of bounty hunter.

Lots of bounty managers now. Most of them have no experience and are ready to inflict losses on bounty hunters for their own benefit. They always try to put money in their pockets by cutting the payments of bounty hunters. Bounty hunters never try to do any research before joining any campaign, which can lead to problems with their payments later on.

So now Bounty Hunters should work with professional managers, joining their campaign is guaranteed to get paid.

yeah we know that, specially who already join bounty along time ago.
to be honest im already join bounty for 3 years but not maximal, i mean sometime i join and sometime waiting a good one.
and it really difficult to choose the good one from a more dozens even hundreds project in a day.
but, if you looking for long and not take action, you will not anything, that why you must still do it, time by time.
if 1 bounty finish you should join another as fast as you can.

I always tell people to keep trying and check the group because some awards unfortunately close without anyone's knowledge. The reward is full of uncertainty, so it's best to keep doing it because sometimes some campaigns can make really big wins.

Yes as a bounty hunter it is really painful to see that the price of the project falls down while waiting for the reward to be sent on your wallet.
It is like watching your money burn out but you couldn't do anything about it anymore.
And sometimes you have no other choice but to hold it since it would only be a waste to sell it for a few penny.
And it is not just the lock rewards but also the scam projects that would give you falls hope.
Also the expectation of having a good reward but ending up being scam or just a few penny rewards.

KYC is mandatory for regulated projects due to the latest updates on GDPR in the EU zone, there is no reason to blame the team for this. The bounty hunters have to be lucky for bypassing the KTC unless the otherwise was agreed on terms-conditions before the first day of the bounty campaign. The useless tokens don't care about our privacy, so sending personal documents is very dangerous. There is shady deep web businesses underground and we never have seen this kind of trades on normal internet. If you check the deep web, there are thousands of sold KYC database hacked by hackers and the majority of these documents are stolen by investors or bounty hunters, unfortunately.

Bounty campaigns and its participants are very significant in cryptocurrency world, but there are always many difficulties with it. But I don`t think there is any way out of current situation. Dishonest people will always be trying to cheat and get more tokens and people greed will be always stop factor for growth of many technological projects. Obviously we need to fight with it, but it`s impossible to make all people responsible and honest, so mechanism will always have weak blocks in the chain

That is the risk of becoming a bounty hunter, as a professional it is very natural if you have to choose a legit project, because if you follow the project without prior analysis, then the risk is that your hard work will not be paid,

Well, this is the risk of becoming a bounty hunter. Well, when we get blamed for falling prices, know that it's just an excuse for the team to blame the bounty hunters. Basically, the price decline can not only be seen from that, because there are quite a number of other factors. in fact, some quality projects are also able to maintain their price once the bounty tokens have been distributed. after all, but it is also a bitter pill that we need to endure, and need to be patient in becoming bounty hunters.

Yeah I've seen this tons of time and sadly enough I don't see how hounters can protect themselves from this to happen.
I mean you have zero leverage on BM or project unless all bounty hunters are in union protecting their rights

Right, many instances of this will happen, and there are bounty managers that were given bad ratings because of that. It is their fault they signed up to manage in some projects that are sometimes sketchy and sometimes unfair when dealing with bounty hunters. I mylself have submitted to one KYC giving my information to them, and sadly I don't know what happened to the information I gave them. But information is information, as long as they have it, there is no guarantee that it will not be used in the near future.

Blaming bounty hunters for downturn in the price of a project is just ridiculous to me, I mean I'm a bounty hunter and I don't even dump my rewards at a go. If the project developers have enough demand for their product in the market there won't be that downturn.

Many factors influence the price decline but are only often blamed on bounty hunters even though the project does not have high market liquidity and does not run according to the roadmap resulting in the collapse of the token trade.

I'm also a lower rank hunter but I understood that there are hunters who are disrespectful to the manager.
If the hunters are disrespectful what should the managers do in return to hunters bad attitude? Of course, the repeated disrespectful attitude towards the manager is an insult and unhealthy relationship in the group. Even I if I'm the managers will forgive 7 times but exceeded is clear the hunters are toxic. This is not implies to all hunters but JUST FOR THOSE WHO ARE DISRESPECTFUL.

In my opinion, bounty hunting isn't a good source of income in the cryptocurrency industry. I personally can't remember making anything from bounties this year as I barely participated and even the few I joined wasn't successful. The hunters end up working for so long and have nothing to show for it.

Bounty hunters got paid for the services rendered, they can do anything they want with their rewards and moreover not all bounty hunters are dumpers, some still prefers holding the coins and tokens they earned through bounties, whatever the end performance of a project is going to be is on the project quality itself

Nowhere in the world the employer can dictate to his employee, that he should not spend his salary for a specified period. Even if there is such a condition included within the T&C, it is not legal. So rather than blaming the bounty hunters for the dumping of tokens, the promoters should concentrate more on improving the quality of the project. No one would dump a token, if the project is a promising one.

Bounty campaign is the best way how ICO become success because without have promotion by bounty participants how come investor know with ICO project, look how many bounty twitter campaign and Facebook participants every day make tweet and hastag about ICO project and many investor know after promote by bounty hunter, so I hope for ICO always applause what did by bounty hunter and give most worth value then distribution on time without waiting when price going down so distribution started, I think bad respond from ICO owner whit did by bounty hunter last few moment with almost all ICO project.

I strongly agree with your statement mate the bounty hunter will always make the project popular to social media and on bitcoin talk furom and they project that they promote can reach a lot of investors and project may become succesful because of the help of bounty campaign. They always put the blame on bounty hunters even if they know that the small amount of token that is allocated for bounty hunter cannot really affect the token price for a long time. If bounty hunters dump their token there is a great posibility that the price will fall in a short period of time and i believe that if the team that works on the project is strong and has a capability to make the project successful then everybody didnt need to worry.

I took part in some bounty campaign and the result was nothing. It doesn't work and the payments are so little that makes it impossible to even transfer the tokens and sell them.
I have been paid some of them and it was tokens worth $1-2 for social media campaigns. This is a big joke for bounties and I wonder why are people still doing this.

I don't know why many people still joining social media bounty campaign, they have made report every week but the last bounty ended only get $1 until $10 more than five weeks working, how come bounty campaign manager give little reward for bounty participants and why not get more allocation when getting coin have lower price but have many supply on market. When have new bounty campaign always have many participants from media campaign social like twitter, facebook, lindekin and youtube.

You're lucky you still get paid just imagine some bounty campaign that would run for almost 3 or more months and ended up running without rewarding the bounty participants. It is really a risk for bounty hunters to participate on bounty campaigns.

You have written this post just to increase activity meter ? Because based on your post history, I can see that you have ever participated in any bounty campaign... Or, you have participated in bounties that did not run on this forum. Now wonder then your results are so low and you have such an opinion.

For example, I have participated in YOUenging Facebook/Twitter/LinkedinIn campaigns. Havent yet sold rewarded tokens, but today they are worth around 150 USD. And the project havent released its app yet.

Yes, I do agree with you, there are several possibilities and factors does affect tokens price nevertheless many projects would accuse bounty hunters of the price decline. That looks quite weird because some of the projects haven't had the potential in their growth and still they counter the bounty hunters for their failure.

I hope this article will really make a positive change, making one to really participate in the bounty. Throughout last year I didn't participate in any bounty because of my previous experience. There was one that I took part in and at the end of about four months I was paid for only three-week work how the manager got this calculation I didn't know and this got me really pissed off. But recently I joined the club back after getting to know about the signature project I am wearing.

You asked why, cause this is the available activities that most of the  newbies know to do, there are some that are into crypto for long time but they did not thrive to be like an expert trader or even qualified for some bounty campaigns like, content creating, translating or video vbogger, so they just settle to be as a regular bounty hunter

This is true, the team should have anticipated the bounty participants who immediately threw away the tokens, but if you think about the token allocation from the bounty participants, it is very small when compared to investor tokens. I think that if a solid team will not allow the token dump and will definitely make efforts to raise the token price

sometimes it is difficult to give a sense of fairness, bounty hounters are usually only used as bait for bad teams to get profit. so they just speculated to make a scam project with fantastic promises but in the end they threw away and didn't care about the bounty participants. this is very unfair and bad

At present there is no profit by bounty hunters. Many scam bounty doesn't just work with hunters and some days after the bounty goes away the scam goes away. Many bounties reward their hunters, but those tokens do not come to market.

don't say like that and don't complain, this is already a risk in joining the bounty,
if you want to get a good bounty, you can go to the service section,
there are many bounties with bitcoin payments and of course it's legit.

Yes. There are a small number of signature campaigns that make the payment in Bitcoin, and you can find them in the services section. But the problem is that only 4-5 such campaigns are active right now and the number of available slots is very small. So unless you are a high-ranking member with good merit stats, your chance of getting a slot in any of these campaigns is really low. 

Pain of bounty hunters, yes you are right. The tokens that are given to the bounty hunters do not have the same price at which they run ICO / IEO after coming to the market. If Bounty hunters are given the amount of tokens / coins they are supposed to receive, then if a stable coin is given then Bounty hunters will get some fair remuneration. Bounty hunders should pay in any stable coin.

with current bitcoin price maybe team reallocate their fund to another operation division so number of participants getting low now and even i see some project halted due some reason.

only few campaign could pay bounty hunter using stable coins or using bitcoin . meanwhile most of campaign still need money for their developtment and use token to paid us.

I must say this that everything have solutions and when you applied the right solution, you problem will be limited. First, put a cap on each bounty participation. if you need only 100 twitter members, 200 telegram, 400 facebook. stick to that. if possible, close your bounty telegram group immidately you reach the bounty participant cap. Also and most importantly escrow the reward before starting any work. make sure the tokens already available.

I completely agree with you. They can take bounty Hunters what they really need. They should limit bounty hunters. In this way, every hunters will be paid for their work. Also, it will be easy for bounty manager to track the fellow bounty hunters.

Limited participants and escrow will only guarantee your tokens but not the success of the project, even if you get paid there is still danger ahead, those tokens can still be worthless while you holding them, honestly I'm kinda tired of complaining about bounties and now I treat new projects that need bounty hunters help like gamble, bounty is bounty, you won't end up with good rewards everytime

You guys just have to move on and just continue joining the bounties. We will never know as to when our lucky day will come, but at least we all keep trying, right? I have seen the best and the worst, if not THE worst of bounty hunts and I would say it is sometimes frustrating to see that you do not get the value that you want. But just have a positive attitude and all will be well. For now try to join bounties that pay in bitcoin or top cryptos so that your efforts will not fall in vain.

So far, bounty hunters have always been blamed for dumping the market at a cheap price, even though compared to the tokens that bounty hunters have with very few investors. I hope that in the future there will be special attention and treat the bounty hunters well.

I read your post and wanted your thoughts, we have a game site we are launching. we think the easiest way to manage bounty and wallets is do everything with game system as it has our wallets for ERC and SLP. By doing this we are able to mitigate fluctuation in prices as tokens can be played with or sold to other players.

I got bad experience as bounty hunter when joining tokenpay and I have check how many coin get after updating from spreadsheet final and I earn about 300 coins, tokenpay have listing on the exchange market with higher price and each coin above $10. Until now not distribution yet and many participants very disappointed with bounty campaign manager and ICO developer, how come after ICO success promoting by bounty hunter they not pay reward for bounty participants and price is very good if I received coin from Tokenpay.

It was very painful to promote a project that turned out to be a huge success in the market and bounty hunters didn't get a penny for promoting the project. I have had the same experience before, but this is the risk of being a bounty hunter. sometimes lucky and not at all.

I agree because the supply for bounty hunters is very small so they cannot be blamed for the price drop because the biggest supply holders are investors and the community team itself.
So stop blaming the bounty hunter, even though some are not honest and deceiving as you say.

Being a bounty hunter & a bounty manager is equally painful if the project ends up being a scam...
but the hunters should not be blamed for the dump that occurs because the hunter works for payment, the usual dump is the inability of developers to handle their early investors who want to make faster profits.

being a bounty hunter is not always profitable and vice versa, and of course we will find the bitterness. like Bounty Hunters work hard but they don't receive payment at the maximum time. The team cheated with this part of the marketing promotion after the prize ended. This is very sad and they are not considering being part of the success of their project.

Bounty hunters always tries to give their best. They get only 1-2 percent of the project. The combined team of hunters gets what may be 0.001 percent per capita. It is impossible to degrade the market with such a small supply. Investors have the illusion of money. I would say the team can't work properly or the market collapses due to immaturity in management. Hunter sometimes sells tokens at low prices. It can hurt.

Many bounty hunters feel bad when their reward is not coming on time the way they want it to be to them. Many hunters after two years before they will later discover that the campaign they apply for is not real campaign that will bring them something good in future.
When it remain Some weeks for the bounty campaign to end well before the hunter now discover that the bounty is a scam to hunters, that will later damage their profit making in the campaign.

Bounty hunters are really dacont whole lot of heartbreaks from either bounty managers or project owners. This ha been concurrent issues but like I do twl people always you don't have to put your eggs on one basket. Always try from one point to another. Try different projects no how one will not pay off. It's hurtful anyways.

Many asking question on bounty campaign telegram group when distribution, when exchange and when price is up. I faced several years with this question and some time is must to ask on ICO telegram group how progress with their coin. But I hate with bounty campaign manager not distribution on time after developer sent reward to them but delay and sending after coin have lower price, just get way for bounty campaign manager earn more with bounty coin participants by distributing after coin dump and they got chance for selling coin on higher price and waiting for coin dump buy back and distributed for bounty hunter.

If the amount of tokens in a project bounty is low and the number of hunter is low, then the value of that token is less likely to fall. Not all hunters will be willing to hold tokens so if the hunter quantity is low then value of the token can be avoided from dumping. However bounty is a proper way to promote a project so i think it is better to have Bounty for all projects.

I understand you well, I participated in DigitalBits companies after the end of the bounty, the company went public and the token took off. We were happy with the bounty hunters, but we were deceived and instead of 50,000 tokens we were credited with 375 tokens.

Bounty hunter have some painful thing in this space. The hunter hunt many project but most of the project are scam and most of the project token are not listed any exchanger. So,the hunter don’t get proper profit. Many project give low reward. That was the panful matter for the bounty hunter.

yeah, it hurts a lot if we have been promoting their project for months and in the end they don't pay. as bounty hunters we also deserve to be appreciated as we have promoted their project in this forum.

Unfortunately, this is something that we have to live as a bounty hunter it's hard to be perfect, finding a project that will turn out to be gold I have a lot of shit tokens in my wallets but I just keep on moving and keep on finding the right project to promote its part of the game either you quit or you move on and accept the situation.

yes you are right, a lot of pain is felt by bounty hunters, sometimes those of us who are tired of work don't get anything.  I have experienced very often, many projects I follow are scam, and I get unsold junk tokens.  and again investors are prioritized because they buy with money, whereas bounty hunters are only looking for freebies.

Many opinion about paint become bounty hunter but for me is the way and process how to earn much money as bounty hunter, I have running since 2017 with bounty campaign and get many good bounty and ever earn 1 btc from bounty campaign reward, still many coins have I hold until right now and never complain with bounty campaign. Just waiting with new bounty campaign maybe hope payment weekly like bounty campaign running right now because we can sell it soon and have listed coin on the exchange market to make us motivate promote and post every day.

How can managers lose reputation? You think they managed campaigns knowing they are scam? Looks unreal to me. Managers are in same ass like hunters, they just receive payments earlier than hunters.

Ive stopped doing bounties because doing tasks and receiving nothing takes a lot of free time. That is why I wear signature with payment in btc and live with the rule “all money in the World can not be earned”.

Bounty seekers are cleared out defenseless by numerous ventures and their campaigns since they need to work in development and after months of work the group can essentially say no to seekers, a few will play deferring strategies, a few will present modern rules to claim remunerate tokens that will diminish add up to members as numerous will not take after. So in brief, seekers are mishandled in my ways and their ought to be a few third party for debate determination of bounty seekers.

At this point that happens very often, although other points are the same. But at this point it is true, bounty hunters are always an outlet when it comes to dump prices. Logically it is not to blame, because the allocation of each bounty is not that large. about 1-3% of the total supply. That means it isn't the bounty hunter who does it completely, but there are investors who do. So can't blame each other.

I guess managing a bounty campaign isn't that easy after all, considering the amount of participants, bounty managers are really trying although to the bounty hunters all this computing of data task seems quute easy but it's not, aside that the way bounty hunters are treated after the end of bounty campaigns is really bad, most projects turn their back on the bounty hunters and start treating at them like beggars or people who just want free tokens from them, forgetting that the bounty hunters actually helped to publicize their project.

Yeah, I feel you. Bounty hunting is like gambling also with TIME as your capital. We worked for almost six months and getting nothing in return, it is so sad but on the other hand, we have also earned a substantial amount of money when bounties were at their peak.

While scammers are also adding to the pain of bounty hunters as they were using us to promote their scam projects and when people found out that the projects were a scam, some people blame bounty hunters which is not a good thing.

When looking on bounty campaign period more than two or three months I will never join and checking again with distribution after six month later this the reason I am not interesting for joining, I am looking bounty campaign maximum running more than two months and distribution after bounty ended or payment have been sent on escrow. When getting bounty campaign have running long time period I will looking for other campaign where running short time and distribution soon after ICO ended. Many bounty campaign running very long time but the end just received little reward, maybe you ever joined with lyfe bounty campaign but received little reward payment after running more than three months.

it really hurt when I worked on the bounty program until it ended,
and the prize was not given to me, yes it was the most painful experience I have received,
but I am not easy to give up, I am still trying my luck at the bounty.

There is another popular opinion - it is safe to join long running campaigns managed with a trusted manager. For example lets take a look on bubbalex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1775670) and Ferrum Network bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135250.0). Campaigns duration 3 months, distribution began in 3 months after the end and in 3 batches. In general, this campaign was from April to November. Everyone got what they earn, everyone was happy. So people should not be afraid of campaign with long running periods, but be selective.

Oh, yes, that pain is intense, we all felt useless one way or another. But that is the nature of crypto. We just have to pick the best, hopefully the best managers and do your part so that you will be paid the right amount. Then try to sell it if you can so you can get paid for real. Anyway, good luck to all crypto bounty hunters out there and be sure to do your best and move on if you feel the project is a bit scammy in nature.

I know how you feel, i had the same experience, and more than once. For those bounty projects i don't get my pay, my method was blacklisting the bounty manager, maybe some are not manager fault, but i still don't want to work with them. I don't give up too.

I see that you are having a hard time for that matter. Yes I agree with but they are not forcing us to the bounty hunting. Most likely the methods of joining here especially in a bounty project is join at your own risk. We have no other choice but only to work and be glad if the project wi oay or not. Mostly projecta will not pay so it is upon your preference on how good you can be in bounty hunting.

I’ve been through this back in time. I think 5 bounties did not pay us and 3 translations I guess? It is really hurt when I experienced that. When I stated participating in bounties all of the campaigns I participated are legit but when 2018 starts, lot of scammer roam in the forum. And that’s why I stopped from joining and focus in my career. Now I am here again, trying again to earn and learn. But the lesson to this is do not stop.

Great, this is one simple strategy that any bounty participant can implement for himself, because marking a manager who doesn't pay is a very good thing too, because once they don't pay, they will do it again in the future.

That's what every hunter has to do to survive in the market because as a bounty hunter you often have to face such situations where you haven't get the reward for your bounty work. Therefore you shouldn't have to easily give up on such conditions and instead of getting upset, you have to start looking forward to a new project.

Maybe this can help a certain percentage of success for bounty hunters.  But in fact, there are still many bounty managers who are well known for their many successful events, but on several occasions they also fail to pay bounty hunters.  The prevention method by tagging several managers can be successful but is not completely guaranteed.

As a bounty hunter, patience is needed and is not always discouraged because we are very sure that one day we will receive a reward that is very much in accordance with what we have done. although there are also not a few things that might disappoint and it must be admitted that there will definitely be. because we believe that we keep running, luck will also be obtained. I really agree with our friend that we always feel optimistic that it is not easy to do with just words but by working.

Working at bounty at the present time and spending idle time is the same thing. Some of the bounty hunters got scammed and fled. Some bounty hunters pay their rewards but do not have market value. And now the people of the Asian counties know fairly well about cryptocurrencies and it is unthinkable that they join bounties at such a rate. 5 times more people join a bounty than the kind of reward and the kind of people needed. So I think bounty hunters should be given any kind of stable coin instead of tokens.

Just don't give up. I like the way you blacklist these bounty projects. If I see scam I also give them bad merit too, I always tend to check projects and gambling sites if they are scammy in nature and I have been attacked here before because of these scam projects. It is best to give them a bad rating even if they retaliate and they give you and their minions give you a bad rating too. That is just how the system works around here. Don't give up and good times will come rolling on us.

some people will get irritated if they recall what they have missed, for example promoting a project for a long time but getting paid very little or maybe not getting paid at all. That's what makes most bounty hunters grumpy and don't always think calmly. if you fail on a project you can try another project, of course, with a failure analysis of the previous project.

Yup, it is the classic problem in bounty hunters. That's why we must be more selective to join bounties. Remember that never decide to join without research or deep analysis first. Scammers become smarter now, they can make scam bounties as good as real bounties. So, it is a must for us to analyze it deeply. Take enough time to analyze the projects. Anyway, regarding the people blame hunters, just don't think too much about it. Those people who stated it may not know very well about the token allocation for the bounty program.  :)

I agree some of them is kind of that, but Bounty hunter should be treated as part of Community too, isnt it? Because if they hold reward from bounty, they can be called as investor too, if not for money then they invest their time for the project

In bounty campaign hunter get some reward for promoting the project.. but it's not easy also. Because all users don't have high num of friends in all platform. Other thing is that after distribution of some bounty ta price began to fall instantly so the work become useless..

It's painful for bounty manager also. Because he/she to assist their hunters daily with a huge number of messages.. fear of getting scam and NT by user ...

So these are beneficial but that much risky also

Sometimes there are some projects that pay up to we forget about the project. but if up to  forget about the project then it is bad too much for BM or the project team. But if their reasons are due to postponed distribution, the project stuck, or the Champaign being extended, that's understandable, we must also be grateful if the project can succeed and we can get our reward

till whenever they will blame us  no matter what is our contribution to their project. many people thought we got token freely and its make them as if we were them main and only person who dump token in market. our effort in doing many task often not appreciated and even we didnt got any reward for it.

Bounty hunters are blaming because we dump the coins we earned in bounty. The fact that the allocation for bounty is not 5% above, they should not be fear in dumping. Specially, if the project is really promising. And bounty hunters are not dumb to dump the coins if we can sell it above our expected price. They just made it a blame so that they can delay the payment. This is the reason why I do not anymore have interest in bounty. I just want only to spend my time in trading and gambling. With that, I am earning what I want to have at the end of the day.

The experience is very painful I had personally passed through such a situation  in 2018, I put in much effort in a bounty campaign that took almost two months and even extend their bounty period to detriment of some hunters who had already made up their mind to promote another project knowing that leaving at that time amount to non payment of their tokens even after extending the duration of the campaign sadly it ended as scam, it was a disappointing experience of course bounty campaigns are not regulated that is why scammers are having a field day.

Bounty hunting is a very difficult job, but it is very well earned. Nobody is forcing you to be a bounty hunter.
If a job is difficult, professional satisfaction will be high. So I wish success to all bounty hunters  :)

As you've stated above, bounty hunters are facing painful days especially in the last months, we ain't talking about these problems anymore. There's hundreds of fake bounties that drived me to opt out of the bounty section that i stopped using. Bounties and especially the fake one just wasted alot of my time along side with the managers who usually gets paid and run away with the fake tokens and closes the whole project. It's not quite good story to tell.

You've done well by presenting those points which are appreciating.cause as a hunter, have to expriance these facts ofter numerous bounty are just end without distributing any signle reward.apart from those, bounty managers responsibility is very big thing, hard to control such huge hunters.moreover only manager alone can't do much if team members do something wrong.even till now, numerous managers lost theirs reputation for scam bounty where they are accused only because of selecting bad project for promotion

It can't be helped, the fact is there are so many scam projects here and as a bounty hunter, of course you have to learn a lot from that bitter experience,
of course it is very difficult to choose a project that is really promising

I have been participating in the bounty program for a long time, there are many joys and sorrows,
and of course everything just passes, and pain can indeed make an impression, but if the pain lingers,
then you will stop in the bounty program or bounty hunter, pain is a risk so you have to be brave.

Joining a bounty campaign is also risky and as a bounty hunter we have nothing to do about those scam project. That's why we need to be very careful in joining a campaign. As much as possible we should do some research before promoting the project. A lot of good and scam project are already there so, we should take the risk if we want to join. Enjoy if you joined in a good project campaign and just accept the reality if you joined in a failed or scam project.  That's the reality of being bounty hunter. If you are always regret that you spend in bad campaign then, it's up to you if you will continue to take the risk in joining other campaign or just quit being a hunter.

Due to the risks and uncertainties about success and the payment to be paid for promotion participants as well as most bounties that end in scams or fail, it is this reason that some users are looking for other alternatives to get something that can also be profitable while increasing their ability to know more about trading and investment and also bitcoin paid signature campaigns. I have been disappointed with some gifts that just waste my time and yield nothing at all. This makes my assumptions more difficult on bounties and leaves me uninterested for now.

I may no longer want to waste time on useless things like most gifts today. Although there are some who actually produce, they are very few. All bounty participants must be aware that there are several things that must be considered and the risk is the main one. Remember, time is money, so use it to produce something that may benefit both ourselves and others.

Bounty hunters should try to adjust with any situation they find themselves in, there is no way to completely avoid scam projects and teams that will fail to keep their promises, to be a good earner through bounties you have to be ready for any thing

It should be. Each bounty hunters must be aware that they need to adapt to any situation in crypto. For example, once ICO projects are not worthed anymore, they need to move to work on the bounties of IEO projects. And leave the bounties of ICO projects.

There is no guarantee to use a certain strategy to avoid scammers. But we need to do our best efforts by analyzing and take research to the projects that provide the bounties. I think with our experience, we can know which one is the trusted bounties and which one seems the bad bounties.

not only must but it must be done by all bounty hunters, because indeed it is a risk that we are looking for tokens without having to spend money. but unfortunately many hunters didn't realize it until now

well, if paid well, we are happy, and if not, then we need to be patient. however, sometimes a project looks so convincing, but in the end it doesn't pay off, or even becomes a scam. the choice is to continue to take risks and join this program, or to quit bounty hunters and find other ways to make money. Personally, quite a bit of grief in the world of bounties, but I will probably still take the risk.

Even though we are brave, but, from the past three years we are not benefiting from the bounty. In the beginning, the bounty seems to be very interesting about the facts they publish, but after crowd sales end, we might see there won't be any response and any developments from the company and this makes most of the people losing towards the bounty.

Most members and bounty managers ignore bounty hunters. I saw you to give respect to bounty hunters. Bounty hunters are blamed if a project fails. But if successful, no one talks about the contribution of bounty hunters. Bounty hunters work hard for a little reward. And everyone seems to be trying very hard to deprive them of that reward.

There are two meanings contained in bounty hunters, first they are workers who promote new projects from various directions through the media they use, and secondly they are people who are paid to help the project become famous in crypto, although there are also famous projects without holding campaign in the form of a bounty.

I likewise see things like that are certainly feasible for a few reasons that the group needed to settle on this choice, possibly on the grounds that they are occupied with their items and can likewise keep up price solidness in the market so they settle on questionable choices.
In reality, i think we need to device a means of vetting projects that want to launch a bounty, even before they launch, and the funds be kept in an escrow.

Most likely this will be exceptionally frustrated by advancing for such a long time, however indeed it isn't true to form, so we as hunters should acknowledge it since we can't do anything besides sit tight for refreshes from them.

Recently, it seems to me that non-payment of earned tokens to participants behind  heads has become not as common a fact as before. Now there are agencies, such as the detective bounty, that require the transfer of the pool of tokens to be paid to the bounty hunters to the wallets they control, so there is a certain guarantee that we will receive these new tokens. True, and they can turn out to be useless icons if the project team turns out to be fraudulent. However, there are also fewer fraudulent projects as the cryptocurrency market matures.

there was dump then blaming the bounty hunter has become a common thing for me and it will continue to experience such insults forever because it is  trick investors are trying to make a dump and they are trying to make buyback

It's already a risk but yes, it hurts a lot when an effort is not appreciated and I think this kind of thing has happened a lot so it's no wonder when I got the info that many bounty hunters have chosen to retire. At least not always new projects will continue to arrive because over time it will decrease, so we should not rely on it because if this is only done to fill spare time, the disappointment experienced may not be so painful.

It is really great that being a bounty manager you understand the things happening on the ground with bounty hunters. All the points you have mentioned are the reality. Also nowadays since so many users are becoming bounty hunters, the competition has gone to the next level, and it is very difficult to get a good amount as the share has been decreased.

Companies will allocate low budget to the bounty hunters and investors will blame the bounty hunters. This type of blaming on bounty hunters is completely common, which they will always grab the token at lowest price and most of the bounty hunters will sell them at the lowest prices.

This suggestion has been put forward hundreds of times before for every manager but few manager have implemented it. I know that you are not new to a bounty hunter and that has given you a fair amount of experience. There are only a few bounty that actually get you a decent payout because most of them end badly without progress despite a successful sale. During the bull market, I saw many bounty hunter suffer and complain that they have to pay a lot of transaction fee due to ethereum network congestion. Although the project was successful, in reality some of them had to refrain from distributing token just because of the increased fee.

Don't you feel like they really don't have enough money just to cover the transaction fee ? Don't they seem very poor, or do you feel like you're being played around right now ?

I do not think that bounty manager ignore the bounty hunters. The bounty managers want to pay all the bounty hunters on time and also wish the project to succeed but all the delay in token distribution is from the Project team. In most cases, bounty managers have no control over the project as they are only doing the job as bounty manager.

This is the best tittle for this piece "pain of bounty hunters".
I joined this platform in January 2018, of course as a bounty hunter but I can tell you the experience was the hardest I have ever had in my life. Doing so many bounties at a time (50 bounties). For some good reasons.
1. The crowd funding might turn out not as planned and expected by the team in the white paper.
2. The pay coins might not worth much as the bounty hunters expected at the of the distribution.
3. Even the bounty manager might decides to strike the hunter/s in the process. And so many other reasons.
Bounty was very hectic, but after all this struggles still today most of those coins end up as shit coins, just there wasting in the ether wallet. Well, I hope to see the day when the energy and time i invested as a bounty hunter pays.

I totally agreed with what you have said. The bounty manager actually don't have control over the project. But they do have control or i will say power over the token to be distributed to various bounty hunters.

Its true that hunters often have to suffers lot. Many project owners deny to gives reward without any reason. But at first every project making noise loudly, do promises & giving positive hope to hunters and inspire lot to promote their project. After raise targeted money though token sale by using hunters, they forget everything and start making excuses for not giving reward to hunters. It's okey if scam project and don't pay but top project brake theirs promise, that isn't expected from them

Project do able to succeed and didnt pay up or project become a scam is just really the same.They do just all make same excuses if they do find out that they do able to
get on what they wanted when it comes to marketing or advertisement.This had been a typical situation where most bounty hunters do really experience and thats why
i leave bounty hunting due to very reason of this one.Better to waste up your time on campaigns or bounties that do pay up bitcoin or alts that had value
and in weekly basis.

Indeed its not the manager's fault why there's a delayed on distribution or if the project turn out to be a shit project or a scam.

Because the bounty manager is also doing his part to manage the bounty and should not be held liable for any problem when it comes to payment and the progress of the project.

The dev is the one responsible. Thats why we need to be more wise when choosing where to participate because many projects are really not worth for our time and effort.

I dont know on why they do really blame out the manager when it comes to these kind of circumstances except if the manager is part of the team then thats the time on where people
could really have some complaints but if the manager itself was came from on this forum or simply just an employee then you dont have the right to blame them out
when it comes to project success.

They are just workers too and waiting up for them to get paid on handling out community management.It wasnt been an easy job or task but still i do see this kind of perception
where people do really love to blame out.

this thread somehow comforts my wound a Lil bit. Thank you for your thoughtful words and your willingness to see to bounty hunter's side even if you're not one of them anymore. I really really appreciate it. As a real bounty hunter, I only have 1 account of social media for doing each project, I try to do my task right and I try my best to communicate with the bounty manager or developers well. However, many obstacles I faced, from banned accounts to unpaid bounties, I've learned my lesson so hard it was tiring me so much. I decided to be more chill, if not it will affect my sanity. 

Well the Situation is already happening for years and the problem is Bounty hunters are always the Victim .

I have tried also tried to be a Bounty hunter yet i become a victim that's why i never joined any again instead i focused in Signature campaigning in which paying Bitcoin or dollar mostly .

Well that is the best comforting this thread brings because majority of the Hunters had already experienced or still experiencing this Pain up to now.

I think all things we experienced in joning bounty campaign is natural nature of life , in this world having difficulties in life is part of being human, that's why we don't need to be upset because of what happen to day, just remember if you put many tomatoes in one basket few of them are not good just like bounties campaign here in this forum.

Mostly in the different side, most bounty are not that good unlike before. With your example, basket of tomatoes compared to bounties that's vice versa.

Bounty promotions ain't paying the same way before, or if they are paying it's not that much, you are just lucky if you able to gain decent.

Some good project though really paying huge, if you able to land to this kind of bounty then surely you'll be more than happy and won't be crying from here but for sure you'll be thankful as you get something great from your participations.

I like it when projects write "listed on coinmarketcap" or used to write "listed on etherdelta". This instantly triggers that there is something wrong with them. I dont think that it is hard to get listed on coinmarketcap. All you have to do is to fill the form properly, be honest, be real. And imo, those who display that "they are listed on coinmarketcap", they somehow display that they already cheated somehow. Like look, we are so shady, but we managed to get a place on coinmarketcap and now we are cool.

Here are the criteria for you to get listed on CMC. Source (https://support.coinmarketcap.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043659351-Listings-Criteria#:~:text=Must%20have%20a%20functional%20website,of%20communication%20for%20any%20clarifications.)

(1) Cryptoassets
For a cryptoasset to be considered for a tracked listing, it should meet the following guidelines:

Leverage cryptography, consensus algorithms or distributed ledgers, peer-to-peer technology and/or smart contracts to function as a store of value, medium of exchange, unit of account, or decentralized application.
Must have a functional website and block explorer.
Must be traded publicly, and actively traded on at least one (1) exchange (with material volume) that has tracked listing status on CoinMarketCap.
Provide a representative from the project with whom we can establish open lines of communication for any clarifications.