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Title: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: bitmover on November 16, 2020, 04:02:33 AM
A friend in my local board requested  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5284552.msg55571993#msg55571993)a tool like that that supported USD and BRL.

I liked the idea and decided to expand it, to support a wider range of currencies. I decided to use this API which supports 170 fiat currencies. I believe that's all currencies in the world. I also included xau(gold ounce)

This tools converts satoshis, finney, mBTC, uBTC to any of the supported fiat currency.

For now, this tool supports the following fiat currencies:
Code:
  Supports: AED, AFN, ALL, AMD, ANG, AOA, ARS, AUD, AWG, AZN, BAM, BBD, BDT, BGN, BHD, BIF, BMD, BND, BOB, BRL, BSD, BTC, BTN, BWP, BYN, BZD, CAD, CDF, CHF, CLF, CLP, CNH, CNY, COP, CRC, CUC, CUP, CVE, CZK, DJF, DKK, DOP, DZD, EGP, ERN, ETB, EUR, FJD, FKP, GBP, GEL, GGP, GHS, GIP, GMD, GNF, GTQ, GYD, HKD, HNL, HRK, HTG, HUF, IDR, ILS, IMP, INR, IQD, IRR, ISK, JEP, JMD, JOD, JPY, KES, KGS, KHR, KMF, KPW, KRW, KWD, KYD, KZT, LAK, LBP, LKR, LRD, LSL, LYD, MAD, MDL, MGA, MKD, MMK, MNT, MOP, MRO, MRU, MUR, MVR, MWK, MXN, MYR, MZN, NAD, NGN, NIO, NOK, NPR, NZD, OMR, PAB, PEN, PGK, PHP, PKR, PLN, PYG, QAR, RON, RSD, RUB, RWF, SAR, SBD, SCR, SDG, SEK, SGD, SHP, SLL, SOS, SRD, SSP, STD, STN, SVC, SYP, SZL, THB, TJS, TMT, TND, TOP, TRY, TTD, TWD, TZS, UAH, UGX, USD, UYU, UZS, VEF, VES, VND, VUV, WST, XAF, XAG, XAU, XCD, XDR, XOF, XPD, XPF, XPT, YER, ZAR, ZMW and ZWL.

I think this tool is useful, and I haven't find any other similar to that in the web. That supports a wide range of currencies and you can easily convert between units.

You can type a value in ANY of those input areas to convert.

I hope it is useful for anyone.

just click in the image below to use it.


https://i.imgur.com/hzZrCsd.png (https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html)
https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html

Please tell me if you find any bugs. It is possible that I have put one more 0 (or less) somewhere. To many zeroes and values ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: Upgrade00 on November 16, 2020, 05:41:23 AM
Nice work, the site is useful and also very easy to navigate. I use a couple of currency converters, but none as robust as this, which can also serve as a block explorer and a balance checker.

I noticed a part which I suspect to have been a typo, generously seemed to be a better fit;
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Webhosting gently generously donated by examplens


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: SFR10 on November 16, 2020, 07:35:40 AM
Please tell me if you find any bugs.
Not sure what I'm about to mention is a bug or it's just me missing something but I noticed selecting/changing some of the fiat currencies, leads to a slight change in all of the input fields in the right section [bitcoin, bitcent and etc...].

  • Default [before] (https://i.imgur.com/qXalrKZ.jpg)
  • After selecting BRL (https://i.imgur.com/8RDbeFu.jpg)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: examplens on November 16, 2020, 10:49:18 AM
I already forget cBTC and Finney unit exist

Please tell me if you find any bugs.
Not sure what I'm about to mention is a bug or it's just me missing something but I noticed selecting/changing some of the fiat currencies, leads to a slight change in all of the input fields in the right section [bitcoin, bitcent and etc...].

  • Default [before] (https://i.imgur.com/qXalrKZ.jpg)
  • After selecting BRL (https://i.imgur.com/8RDbeFu.jpg)

Maybe it's because with price fluctuation (between USD & another fiat), which change USD amount & also change BTC amount.

it seems that here only the value of the USD field is untouchable. Only after refreshing the page do we get a new current Bitcoin price.
IF we can't or no need to edit this field, for example, "alert" components or maybe it's better to use "input-group" [Bootstrap]components where you can fix some values.

Nice work, the site is useful and also very easy to navigate. I use a couple of currency converters, but none as robust as this, which can also serve as a block explorer and a balance checker.

I noticed a part which I suspect to have been a typo, generously seemed to be a better fit;
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Webhosting gently generously donated by examplens

 ;) OP, you know that you can add more than one domain there?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: bitmover on November 16, 2020, 11:12:23 AM
I noticed a part which I suspect to have been a typo, generously seemed to be a better fit;
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Webhosting gently generously donated by examplens

Thank you for your comment, just fixed.

Not sure what I'm about to mention is a bug or it's just me missing something but I noticed selecting/changing some of the fiat currencies, leads to a slight change in all of the input fields in the right section [bitcoin, bitcent and etc...].

  • Default [before] (https://i.imgur.com/qXalrKZ.jpg)
  • After selecting BRL (https://i.imgur.com/8RDbeFu.jpg)

This is a limitation of the tool. I can "fix" by reducing precision. Just did (You probably won't see changes for a few minutes due to caching.)

The API I use only works with 2 decimal places. But USD BRL is not just 5.46, but 5.4587698 (something like that).
When you multiply 5.46 * 16000 those subcents units make that difference. I forced bitcoin field to 6 units instead of 8 and it is now 1.
It looks better now (1 BTC), but when you go to smaller units like uBTC you get  1000000.08.

https://imgur.com/a/7pUjKzy


Edit: I changed to another API with better precision. Workibng slightly better

Thanks your comment.

;) OP, you know that you can add more than one domain there?

I know. But I only have this one for now :)

Do you think it would be better to keep those pages in separate domains? Like bitcoinunitconverter.com ?
Thank you, I am having a lot of fun and learning a lot working in this domain.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: notblox1 on November 16, 2020, 11:17:17 AM
https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html

Please tell me if you find any bugs. It is possible that I have put one more 0 (or less) somewhere. To many zeroes and values ;)

Website is looking great and I love the dark theme, but maybe I would move Bitcoin and crypto units on left side, and dollar with fiat currencies on right side of the page.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on November 16, 2020, 02:36:31 PM
1 satoshi is 1000 millisatoshi. At the moment it says 10.

Using the arrow keys to navigate up and down the menu of fiat currencies is out by one. For example, if I click on Czech Koruna (CZK) and type in 100, I get a USD value of around $4.50. If I then press down to Danish Krone (DKK), it still shows the exchange rate for CZK. If I press down again to go to Euro (EUR), if then shows the exchange rate for DKK at $15.90. Similarly, if you scroll up you end up out of sync by one in the other direction. A minor point, but could cause some confusion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: examplens on November 16, 2020, 03:03:13 PM
I know. But I only have this one for now :)

Do you think it would be better to keep those pages in separate domains? Like bitcoinunitconverter.com ?
Thank you, I am having a lot of fun and learning a lot working in this domain.

Well, two domains mean 2x more work on promotion, optimisation etc... it can slow down opportunities for monetization. For now, the content type is compatible, but if you make some significant changes to the page structure, it can give you a lot of unnecessary work to customize this page as well even if it's finished and functional.
Now I looked a little more, wasn't there some analysis and stats for Bitcointalk forum?
Yap, web development can be very interesting when you peek inside a bit.

I will shoot a few posts (https://twitter.com/landofcrypto/status/1328350573616369666?s=20) on my TW accounts to promote your page  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: bitmover on November 16, 2020, 03:24:43 PM
1 satoshi is 1000 millisatoshi. At the moment it says 10.

Good catch!! Fixed!!

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Using the arrow keys to navigate up and down the menu of fiat currencies is out by one. For example, if I click on Czech Koruna (CZK) and type in 100, I get a USD value of around $4.50. If I then press down to Danish Krone (DKK), it still shows the exchange rate for CZK. If I press down again to go to Euro (EUR), if then shows the exchange rate for DKK at $15.90. Similarly, if you scroll up you end up out of sync by one in the other direction. A minor point, but could cause some confusion.

Fixed (Just disabled those arrows  :D

Well, two domains mean 2x more work on promotion, optimisation etc... it can slow down opportunities for monetization.
I agree. I want to see how it goes.

For example, if my mempool pages gets lots of access, I can create a yourtxinthemempool.com or something like that. Or btcunitconverter.com

but for now, I have so little traffic that it is not worth and it would be too much work.

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Now I looked a little more, wasn't there some analysis and stats for Bitcointalk forum?

Yeah, but I couldn't keep it updated. You can still access using the URL https://bitcoindata.science/supertable.html
I am learning more about API and databases, maybe in the future I can keep it automatically updated and I will put it back online.

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I will shoot a few posts (https://twitter.com/landofcrypto/status/1328350573616369666?s=20) on my TW accounts to promote your page  ;)
Thank you :)

but maybe I would move Bitcoin and crypto units on left side, and dollar with fiat currencies on right side of the page.

Thanks. That was a good idea.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on November 16, 2020, 09:34:21 PM
Found another bug. Well not really a bug but definitely can confuse users.

Steps to Reproduce:

- Open the Website
- Click on Select a fiat currency
- Select any currency and you'd see it doesn't get updated to that currency's value until you double click.
 
Basically, selecting a new fiat currency would change the current title but not update the value in the text box next to the dropdown until you click again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: bitmover on November 17, 2020, 03:42:05 AM
- Open the Website
- Click on Select a fiat currency
- Select any currency and you'd see it doesn't get updated to that currency's value until you double click.
 

I could reproduce by using the keyboard only.
I think it is much better now. Thanks


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: jamalaezaz on November 17, 2020, 04:06:04 AM
Nice website. I have been a regular user of Peerv.com as I often need to compare BTC prices with USD (Other currencies are not for me) now I can use it to convert satoshi also (which preev) doesn't allow.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: Lucius on November 17, 2020, 01:44:26 PM
I already forget cBTC and Finney unit exist

I have to admit that until now I didnt even know there was a unit named after Hal Finney, and Im just glad it existed because he totally deserved it.



I personally like how the site is designed and I think it can be very useful to anyone who wants to see how much BTC is actually worth in its local currency. I also like the part where you can check the current state of mempool, and see where we can expect our transaction to be positioned considering the fee - maybe just to mark more than 3 blocks on the graphic display, so that even those inexperienced users know what awaits them if they pay a fee 1 sat/vbyte.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: OcTradism on November 17, 2020, 02:01:54 PM
A nice website and nice bitcoin unit converter. I contribute the topic I knew and had my contribution with its format: [Did you know?] Bitcoin Table of Units (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239694.msg54201235#msg54201235)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: bitmover on November 17, 2020, 02:10:06 PM
[Did you know?] Bitcoin Table of Units (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239694.msg54201235#msg54201235)

This is a copy-paste from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Units
I decided not to mention all those formats, because most of them are not used anymore. Even cBTC is not used anymore as it is too much money already...

Additionally, Tonal Bitcoin (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Tonal_Bitcoin) (which is almost half of that table) is basically an altcoin within bitcoin blockchain and it not support by any relevant client.

Edit: Its representation is not supported by any relevant client.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: Timelord2067 on November 18, 2020, 11:24:36 AM
I selected "AUD" from the drop-down menu and this happened:

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/16/blobfefaca69f501efae.jpeg

I would have thought with the bitcoin value as 1.0 that it would have carried over, however the page seems to have taken the US$ value instead.

Is there a way to have a "clear" button to restore the values to "one" or "zero"

How often do the prices update?

How are you doing your conversions of exchange rates?  Is there a way to select other sites that provide bitcoin (or fiat) prices?

*edit* I've just noticed the "Exchange rates from European Central Bank using exchangerate.host API. Bitcoin price from coindesk." at the bottom.




Have you heard of preev.com (http://preev.com/) ?  I *was* about to suggest you have a look at that site, but it's gone off-line.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/16/blob55e39dbcf0721e1e.jpeg




Check out xe.com (https://www.xe.com/) too.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/16/blobaa9753f673134daf.jpeg

Kudos.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: bitmover on November 18, 2020, 12:50:04 PM
I selected "AUD" from the drop-down menu and this happened:

-snip-

I would have thought with the bitcoin value as 1.0 that it would have carried over, however the page seems to have taken the US$ value instead.
This was a design choice.

I have to keep something fixed and change the other values for that to work. There must be some reference value. I choose to use BTC as a reference.

When you change the currency the BTC value is fixed and the the currency price you select is what changes.

The other option would be to keep the fiat value and change bitcoin.
For example, 18,000 USD is one bitcoin. But one Bitcoin in AUD is 24900

If I changed the BTC value, it would convert 1 BTC to 0.68. (looks ok)

But if you change to VES (Venezuela Bolivar) that would be only 0.00000175.

Do you think it would be better to do this way? I can easily change to that design.


Edit: The difference 0.999998btc or 1.0000001 btc is due to very small differences in currency prices. For example, USD/BRL is not 5,3357 but it has a few more decimals. When you multiply that for big numbers (like btc price ) it makes very small differences. I tried to reduce precision but it would bug small values. I will try again to fix it.

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Is there a way to have a "clear" button to restore the values to "one" or "zero"
I liked this idea. I will make a 1 BTC and 1 mBTC  button. Do you have more suggestion about btc values?


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How often do the prices update?
Every 20 seconds.

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How are you doing your conversions of exchange rates?  Is there a way to select other sites that provide bitcoin (or fiat) prices?

*edit* I've just noticed the "Exchange rates from European Central Bank using exchangerate.host API. Bitcoin price from coindesk." at the bottom.

Thanks. I am satisfied with exchange.host
It supports 170 currencies (I added just about 40 because the dropdown would be too big, it would damage navigation). If you miss important currencies, let me know. I can just add them to the dropdown list.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: Timelord2067 on November 18, 2020, 01:38:10 PM
These are all just thought bubble/suggestions, you're welcome to run with them or not as you see fit.

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It supports 170 currencies (I added just about 40 because the dropdown would be too big, it would damage navigation). If you miss important currencies, let me know. I can just add them to the dropdown list.

Perhaps a box to just type the three digit code (and an optional dropdown menu for major dollar/pound/euro/yen/peso/rouble/yuan/rupee/dinar etc currencies?)

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I liked this idea. I will make a 1 BTC and 1 mBTC  button. Do you have more suggestion about btc values?

Just a thought bubble, not a request - a "clear all" button restores the 1 BTC = X US$ - I might have a think about other buttons for quick actions.




I don't use anything except "bitcoin" eg 1.1, 2.3, 0.007 etc or, satoshis 2345, 5678 etc sats as I've seen attempted scams where one user is talking milibitcoins but only pays "bits" or something similar (can't recall specifics just off the top of my head)

I do like the milisats for LN!

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If I changed the BTC value, it would convert 1 BTC to 0.68. (looks ok)

But if you change to VES (Venezuela Bolivar) that would be only 0.00000175.

Do you think it would be better to do this way? I can easily change to that design.

Because the fiat amount is the only one that can change, to my way of thinking the amount that was there (eg 23.45 gets converted into the newly selected fiat eg 20.99) and I like the US$ as the "standard reference value!




Another suggestion:

Code:
 $ ₹    ≠  

Perhaps adding currency codes might help if someone doesn't speak any of the languages, they can still navigate by recognising $ ₹ for the major currencies?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: Welsh on November 18, 2020, 03:38:31 PM
Nice website. I have been a regular user of Peerv.com as I often need to compare BTC prices with USD (Other currencies are not for me) now I can use it to convert satoshi also (which preev) doesn't allow.
Almost perfect timing, sicne preev has recently gone down, could see a momentum shift in the amount of visitor especially if preev isn't back online within a few days. Personally, and I know this isn't that bad, but the domain choice seems quite long to type out, since I tend to avoid using Bookmarks. That would probably be the only criticism without extensive testing to see if there's any kinks, but the interface seems decent to me so far.  

Another suggestion:

Code:
 $ ₹    ≠  

Perhaps adding currency codes might help if someone doesn't speak any of the languages, they can still navigate by recognising $ ₹ for the major currencies?
I like the suggestion, but isn't there a few currencies which use the same sign? Like Canadian dollars, uses the same sign as American Dollars? I think most people that speak different languages are familiar with the abbreviations of each countries currency, even if they don't speak English, because of its dominance in the world, and being dubbed the language of the internet a few times, its fairgly common for people to know USD, GBP even if they aren't familiar with the language.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: bitmover on November 18, 2020, 04:30:40 PM
Almost perfect timing, sicne preev has recently gone down, could see a momentum shift in the amount of visitor especially if preev isn't back online within a few days. Personally, and I know this isn't that bad, but the domain choice seems quite long to type out, since I tend to avoid using Bookmarks. That would probably be the only criticism without extensive testing to see if there's any kinks, but the interface seems decent to me so far.  

Thanks . That domain and all of its projects are a brain storm. I didnt plan those. I am learning javascript and writing them at the same time. I still have some ideas and improvements to implement.

I agree about the domain name. Maybe I should split and make a bitcoinunits.net bitcoinbalance.io or whatever
I will see if I get more access.  If I do, I will do that. For now I have low traffic...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: Kakmakr on November 18, 2020, 05:08:52 PM
Now that Preev.com is down, I had to look for other currency converters and I am glad I found this one.. because it is pretty good.  ;)

Something I would like to see is this :

1. Could you display the currency value on the tab at the top of the window too? So let's say I am in another window gambling ... the price of Bitcoin could be displayed in the tab that is not opened... (So if there is a sudden dump or spike.. I can see it happening..without having to open the window with your converter? (When Preev.com is working again, just look how they did it)

2. I know you created this for Bitcoin, but I would like it if you could add some other popular Alt coins too. (with their units)

I like the fact that all the smaller units are displayed on one page.... because with Preev.com you had to choose from a drop down menu to select it.

Well Done... I like this  :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: bitmover on November 18, 2020, 05:35:25 PM
1. Could you display the currency value on the tab at the top of the window too? So let's say I am in another window gambling ... the price of Bitcoin could be displayed in the tab that is not opened...
Done!
Good suggestion

Perhaps a box to just type the three digit code (and an optional dropdown menu for major dollar/pound/euro/yen/peso/rouble/yuan/rupee/dinar etc currencies?)
In my TODO list :)

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Just a thought bubble, not a request - a "clear all" button restores the 1 BTC = X US$ - I might have a think about other buttons for quick actions.
Done!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on November 18, 2020, 11:42:51 PM
- Open the Website
- Click on Select a fiat currency
- Select any currency and you'd see it doesn't get updated to that currency's value until you double click.
 

I could reproduce by using the keyboard only.
I think it is much better now. Thanks
Doubt that is fixed. Or maybe you haven't merged your latest changes in. However, I'm still able to reproduce the bug and it's actually quite relevant. Click on the Fiat Current Dropdown and select a different currency, the value of that drop-down doesn't update in real-time. You need to click outside of the dropdown to select a different currency to get the updated value. If you still don't get it, I'll make a video for you while reproducing the bug.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: Timelord2067 on November 19, 2020, 12:38:04 AM
OOOoooohhh ... I like the $10 US button - kudos to who ever thought of that one.  Is it possible that when the $10 button is clicked twice it becomes $20 - thrice $30 and so on?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: Yogee on November 19, 2020, 02:39:35 AM
I found this thread from the Preev discussion when it went down. I like that it's also easy to load.
I didn't even know Coindesk has a btc price aggregator. Is there a plan to give users an option to switch or select which exchanges to use?

The "quick action buttons" is a nice workaround to solve the issue when clicking fiat currencies.

Site bookmarked!




Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: bitmover on November 19, 2020, 04:49:02 AM
I would like to thank everyone for your great support and suggestions!

I found this thread from the Preev discussion when it went down. I like that it's also easy to load.
Where is that discussion? Can you link that to me?

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I didn't even know Coindesk has a btc price aggregator. Is there a plan to give users an option to switch or select which exchanges to use?

Hum, maybe. I just need to think more about it, because there are so many exchanges. Binance, Kraken, Coinbase, Bitstamp, Bitfinex....

OOOoooohhh ... I like the $10 US button - kudos to who ever thought of that one.  Is it possible that when the $10 button is clicked twice it becomes $20 - thrice $30 and so on?

I did that in another button. and made a +1mBTC as well. Check it out ;)

Doubt that is fixed. Or maybe you haven't merged your latest changes in. However, I'm still able to reproduce the bug and it's actually quite relevant. Click on the Fiat Current Dropdown and select a different currency, the value of that drop-down doesn't update in real-time. You need to click outside of the dropdown to select a different currency to get the updated value. If you still don't get it, I'll make a video for you while reproducing the bug.

Which browser are you using? I wasn't able to reproduce. I will appreciate if you can make a small video.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 33 fiat currencies
Post by: Yogee on November 19, 2020, 05:33:11 AM
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Where is that discussion? Can you link that to me?
examplens gave the link to your topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290493.msg55617935#msg55617935

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Hum, maybe. I just need to think more about it, because there are so many exchanges. Binance, Kraken, Coinbase, Bitstamp, Bitfinex....
No rush if you have no plans yet. It's up to you.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 43 fiat currencies
Post by: bitmover on November 29, 2020, 11:17:18 AM
Design updated. Added a few more currencies.

Now input boxes are all darker to match the dark theme style. Hope you guys like it.

Still open to suggestions. Thanks everyone for using.

https://i.imgur.com/8sQzmTn.png


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter: Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, μBTC to 43 fiat currencies
Post by: Buttercup123 on November 29, 2020, 11:26:22 AM
Wow, what a nice tool to convert Bitcoin to other fiat currencies. As i checked this tool. It is convinient to us that always convert Bitcoin to a currency. Great. Thanks for this wonderful tool.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 43 fiat currencies
Post by: bitmover on December 10, 2020, 07:57:34 PM
I added support to a few more fiat currencies:
IRR
VND
ZWL
GNF
LAK
UZS
SLL


I will probably add support to all known  170 currencies soon. I though that would be bad to usability and interface (as the dropdown list woudl be too big), but I keep receiving requests to add more currencies.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 43 fiat currencies
Post by: Timelord2067 on December 11, 2020, 12:04:24 AM
I will probably add support to all known  170 currencies soon. I though that would be bad to usability and interface (as the dropdown list woudl be too big), but I keep receiving requests to add more currencies.

Instead of a drop down menu, perhaps just type the three letter code for the coin/token which would narrow down the selection (i.e. type "S" and all codes with "S" appear, type second letter "X" and just those with "SX" appear).




Just a side question are you open to a suggestion for something else on a fresh page?  I have an idea but I don't code/have the resources to do it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 43 fiat currencies
Post by: bitmover on December 11, 2020, 02:42:10 AM
Instead of a drop down menu, perhaps just type the three letter code for the coin/token which would narrow down the selection (i.e. type "S" and all codes with "S" appear, type second letter "X" and just those with "SX" appear).




Just a side question are you open to a suggestion for something else on a fresh page?  I have an idea but I don't code/have the resources to do it.

I thought about writing it. I even made a version of that page but I didnt like. I will try again.

Sure. I am open to suggestions.  What do you think about the fresh page?
I'd you think about new tools I can try to make them as well.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 43 fiat currencies
Post by: OcTradism on December 11, 2020, 05:54:30 AM
You can set it up by default with geographical location information from guests. From the geographical location, your tool will assign the currency for guests. If guests use VPN or Tor, it is their problems and they must to choose their currency manually.

https://www.ip2location.com/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 43 fiat currencies
Post by: zonefloor on December 11, 2020, 09:57:33 PM
I use currency conversion sites mainly when I am going to trade. They are the sites that everyone really needs. When I examine this site, I see that it is very useful and the transitions are comfortable. I saved it to my favorites. Thank you for adding the Turkish lira.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 43 fiat currencies
Post by: bitmover on December 13, 2020, 01:18:33 AM
I Just added support to 170 currencies, and I included XAU (gold ounce) as well.

I will move gold to a separated input later on.
Enjoy :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 43 fiat currencies
Post by: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2020, 02:37:29 AM
I Just added support to 170 currencies, and I included XAU (gold ounce) as well.

I will move gold to a separated input later on.
Enjoy :)

I'm having a glitch where the USD and one of the bitcoin values has a red box around the values - plus, if I enter e.g. 60.00 in the fiat box (say for Euro) the value changes to 60.03, 59.99 up and down depending on what the US$ price is instead of keeping the Euro price fixed and the others vary with the price update.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 43 fiat currencies
Post by: bitmover on December 13, 2020, 11:57:11 AM
I'm having a glitch where the USD and one of the bitcoin values has a red box around the values - plus, if I enter e.g. 60.00 in the fiat box (say for Euro) the value changes to 60.03, 59.99 up and down depending on what the US$ price is instead of keeping the Euro price fixed and the others vary with the price update.

I couldn't solve that so far.
This is a limitation of my data. As there are too many conversations from different sources the values are slightly different when converted.

Sometimes the ratio from two currencies is not precise in usd and then this make those imprecisions. I tried to reduce the number of zeros but it bugs elsewhere. everything is so connected there.

I will try to solve along the week..

Since you support converting to so many currency, i wouldn't mention all of them at the page and would simply write "Support 170 currency" or hide list of supported currency with details HTML tag.

I thought this would be good for Seo, but maybe a hidden layer can do the job.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: Timelord2067 on December 16, 2020, 05:16:31 AM
Sure. I am open to suggestions.  What do you think about the fresh page?
I'd you think about new tools I can try to make them as well.

This one might be a little bit controversial and might take up too many resources (and may not have much in the way of need for most people) but here goes.




There was a site a while ago (forum thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2434261.0)) that would extract forked coins from various bitcoin clones using the privkey provided by the user.  Basically, you went to the site, it checked for any coins accessible on chains and, once you provided wallet addresses where those forked coins could be sent (wallet or exchange), the privkey was uploaded and then the coins sent to the wallet addresses provided.

I tried it a couple of times and was able to extract various bitcoin variants that were then sent to exchanges, sold for the going rate and then the remainder that weren't sent (because I didn't have a wallet address to send them to) were burned (I'm guessing they became dust or were burned).

I've thought about if for a while and think there were some inherent "trust" issues, plus, what became of the dust etc?

LoyceV has a walk through thread which hasn't been posted in for the last six months.  When I asked them about creating a site, I got this reply:

have you ever though of creating a similar website / app which people could use themselves?
Nope, I don't have the skills to do that, and most forks are worthless by now anyway.




This is a process/approach I would take:  (apologies if my terminology is not the standard terms used)

  • New user arrives at site and is issued a token. User must also create their own password (12?-15? digits).  The token and the password encrypt everything that then happens so that no one else can access any remaining funds at the end of the process.  User clicks pop up / check box they have written down token and password in a safe place and won't share etc.
  • Either on arrival or after token issued, user checks wallet addresses for any remaining funds.  Pop up or check boxes throughout the process the user acknowledges the risks involved.
  • User enters payout wallet addresses for various forks and is asked to confirm those wallet addresses. (back-end check wallet addresses are valid for the fork involved)
  • back-end: due to the excessive number of forks, a user may not have access to wallet addresses for all forks - a user at this point can either "burn" coins with no wallet address, donate to the website, or, those funds are held until the user returns at a later date with a wallet address to recover those remaining forked coins. (hence the token plus password).
  • User repeats process for as many wallet addresses as they see fit.
  • User selects payout time-frame - instant (higher TX) top of the hour, daily / some other time-frame e.g. once per week ?? - This enables the back-end to make multiple payouts at the same time and consolidate funds at the same time.  i.e. funds on site plus users' funds combined to become payout to user and change address (two in, two out)
  • Once user has checked the balances of all wallet addresses and entered payout wallet addresses, the user is then required to begin uploading privkeys which are verified (back-end regardless of how many payout wallet addresses there are, all funds are swept/shifted out to new wallet addresses and are held in a pool of funds).
  • User can return to the site with their token and password and view the remainder of forked coins they haven't claimed and either repeat the above process with new privkeys, or, post wallet addresses to be paid out the forked coins with the relevant wallet addresses.
  • Fees ... IDK the site I used charged 10% which might scare some off.  1% might be more attractive, but may not be enough to cover maintenance costs.
.
.
I'm sure there are checks and balances that I haven't thought of, but this might be a new page that some users will find beneficial.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: bitmover on December 16, 2020, 12:54:52 PM

I don't have the skills to do that. I don't want to handle and be responsible for other people' money as well...

Claiming fork coins is safer using a good wallet with multiple coins support, such as Coinomi. I even made a guide about it a few years ago
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3064698.0

Each fork has its own particular details, and it is very important to look for a good wallet so you don't accidentally lose them.

Thanks for you suggestion, and this one would certainly very useful but I can't do it...  I am still open for new suggestions as well.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: Timelord2067 on February 09, 2021, 05:37:43 PM
With the price of bitcoins having eclipsed $46,000 USD, I thought it'd be worth bumping this thread to give newer users the heads up this tool is available for them to use when looking to do cross fiat/crypto trades either buying of selling.

Every day is an ATH at the moment.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: Timelord2067 on August 10, 2021, 09:48:04 AM
Hello again,

I just thought I'd drop you a note and let you know that I can't seem to connect to your site.  I get the following error:

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/15/blobffc7a5b7a095d666.jpeg

this is occurring via Tor browser.  I haven't tried it out on Firefox as yet, however, I'll let you know if it works on that platform.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: examplens on August 10, 2021, 12:49:47 PM
Hello again,

I just thought I'd drop you a note and let you know that I can't seem to connect to your site.  I get the following error:

this is occurring via Tor browser.  I haven't tried it out on Firefox as yet, however, I'll let you know if it works on that platform.

Yap, the same thing is on my browser. I guess his domain bitcoindata.science is expired because I know that hosting working fine  ;)


Just checked it and yes, the domain is expired 4 days ago. I guess he had still kept them if register in the next few days. I hope you will, too bad it is to give up his efforts
@bitmover if you need any help or assistance you always can contact me.  ;)

https://i.ibb.co/MsxDDq1/image.png (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: bitmover on August 10, 2021, 01:01:53 PM
Hello again,

I just thought I'd drop you a note and let you know that I can't seem to connect to your site.  I get the following error:

this is occurring via Tor browser.  I haven't tried it out on Firefox as yet, however, I'll let you know if it works on that platform.

Yap, the same thing is on my browser. I guess his domain bitcoindata.science is expired because I know that hosting working fine  ;)


Just checked it and yes, the domain is expired 4 days ago. I guess he had still kept them if register in the next few days. I hope you will, too bad it is to give up his efforts
@bitmover if you need any help or assistance you always can contact me.  ;)

Thank you both. I am happy to see you are using my website Timelord2067

The domain expired as examplens said.

I was waiting to see if the price drops... I bought that domain for about 2-5 usd per year, and they are now charging me 23.59 usd + 20 USd for name guard.
I think that value is abusive... I was waiting to see if the price goes down after it expired, but it didn't.

Do you have any suggestions? If there is no other way I will pay that ~50 usd, but I wasn't ready for such a price increase (10x in one year)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: dkbit98 on August 10, 2021, 01:11:41 PM
Do you have any suggestions? If there is no other way I will pay that ~50 usd, but I wasn't ready for such a price increase (10x in one year)
This is how domain selling makes profit, first one or two years are usually cheaper and then they increase price a lot, so one of the option you have is to buy totally new domain and transfer all website content there.
For example there is bitcoinscience.club, bitcoinscience.life or bitcoindata.club, bitcoindata.online, bitcoindata.me domains available for cheap.
I was also using your website when I had to explain someone about Bitcoin units, or to see how much 1 BTC is worth in some exotic fiat currencies.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: bitmover on August 10, 2021, 01:14:35 PM

This is how domain selling makes profit, first one or two years are usually cheaper and then they increase price a lot, so one of the option you have is to buy totally new domain and transfer all website content there.
For example there is bitcoinscience.club or bitcoinscience.life domains available for cheap.
I was also using your website when I had to explain someone about Bitcoin units, or to see how much 1 BTC is worth in some exotic fiat currencies.

This would certainly be a lot cheaper.

The problem with that approach is that my domain has a lot of links (like yours) and some nice positions in Google searches... I will lose a lot of traffic if I change my domain url without any redirect from my prior url...



Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: dkbit98 on August 10, 2021, 01:18:47 PM
The problem with that approach is that my domain has a lot of links (like yours) and some nice positions in Google searches... I will lose a lot of traffic if I change my domain url without any redirect from my prior url...
That is true, so you can approach this the other way and ask for donations from people if they want to continue using your website with same domain name.
You invested a lot of work in this so I think it's perfectly fine to ask something like that, and it won't hurt anyone to split the cost and spend a few bucks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: examplens on August 10, 2021, 01:24:52 PM
Do you really have to pay name guard too? isn't it free? (you always can change administrator data on the domain, if you don't want to show up in public)

a cheap first year is not always a good solution  :D Now you also learned a lesson, always check how much cost renewal of exotic domain extension.
anyway, you should need to be careful with the redemption period after the domain expiring.

I probably would have kept this domain, you already have a good base for backlinks and positions, you should not ignore it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: Timelord2067 on August 11, 2021, 09:52:04 AM
I don't mind making a small donation if you were to post a wallet address here or on the webpage - I can do both mainnet and lightning network bitcoin payments.

Do you know what sort of costs you have annually to have the page up and running?  (are there substantial discounts for bulk buy e.g. ten years)?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: bitmover on August 11, 2021, 11:37:24 AM
I don't mind making a small donation if you were to post a wallet address here or on the webpage - I can do both mainnet and lightning network bitcoin payments.

Do you know what sort of costs you have annually to have the page up and running?  (are there substantial discounts for bulk buy e.g. ten years)?

Thanks a lot Timelord2067.
Certainly this kind of attitude is a great incentive to keep the website up.

Code:
3CrySAp8G1PfvjrYT4HPQhE8MouBKWd9WB

Annually costs of the server are paid by examplens,  who donated me some megabytes from his shared server.

I pay only domain costs, which used to be very low.

I tried to pay again the domain renew on namesilo, and I have one good and one bad news.

The good news is that I am on a discount program and the renew will.only costs 8.39 usd.  I will gladly pay that.

The problem is that to participate in the discount program I need to make a minimum deposit of 50 usd in btc.

I will do that today. Thanks again for your incentive Timelord2067



My main objective when creating the website was to learn. I spent countless hours in it, and I a learned a lot. But the reception was very good, I have tens of thousands visitors per month from all continents in the world (specially Russia India USA and brazil) .

I will renew it and keep it alive. Thanks all.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: examplens on August 11, 2021, 01:14:27 PM
The good news is that I am on a discount program and the renew will.only costs 8.39 usd.  I will gladly pay that.

The problem is that to participate in the discount program I need to make a minimum deposit of 50 usd in btc.

I suggest you if it's not too much for you to renew immediately for 5 years using all that $50. it's a good price for your domain since it's a regular renew for .science domains around $24 per year.
Also, if it's too much for you, maybe we can ask Namesilo to move the rest of your deposited funds to my Namesilo account, I will send it back to you in BTC. I definitely have a lot of domains there that I have to extend, and I regularly send BTC/money there. (this is just an option)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: Timelord2o67 on August 11, 2021, 04:34:05 PM
Its not much, but I hope it helps:

Code:
e680e49a6187a2ffc4a7d18ce7c3e6cdeab6b1b4c1197ddc82c7d1dee633ac2b

Regards,


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: bitmover on August 12, 2021, 12:29:38 AM
I suggest you if it's not too much for you to renew immediately for 5 years using all that $50. it's a good price for your domain since it's a regular renew for .science domains around $24 per year.

Its not much, but I hope it helps:

Code:
e680e49a6187a2ffc4a7d18ce7c3e6cdeab6b1b4c1197ddc82c7d1dee633ac2b

Regards,

Thank you so much Timelord2067. Your transaction was enough to pay my domain for many years.

I just  sent 50 usd to (https://mempool.space/tx/8b80d3e09daa196e21b7f1d5b915824ec3f65dfe587ca73f0259dec2b9cca29a) to namesilo and renewed my domain for more 5 years are suggested by examplens.

I want to thank you both for your generosity. I will keep the website online for at least more five years :)

I plan to redesign it in next months and add new functionalities. I hope those tools are useful for you guys.

https://bitcoindata.science is up and running!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: Timelord2067 on August 12, 2021, 03:38:49 AM
I plan to redesign it in next months and add new functionalities. I hope those tools are useful for you guys.

https://bitcoindata.science is up and running!

I've just got one small suggestion that I hope you might be able to implement - to the far right(or left) of any/all boxes that you can enter a value there is a button with a padlock icon to either lock the price, or conversely unlock the price.  I've had a few occasions where I've entered e.g $ 47.50 and with in a minute or two the price and the bitcoin value are jumping all over the place.  (the dollar value will show $ 47.52 and the price of bitcoin shown will end up showing e.g. 0.10289999999999999 bitcents...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 💵💴💶💷
Post by: Timelord2067 on September 22, 2021, 12:43:19 AM
Is there anyway to append settings to the end of the URL https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html so that I could bookmark the page to start with e.g. USD to AUD instead of default USD to EUR


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 💵💴💶💷
Post by: bitmover on November 05, 2021, 03:20:03 PM
Is there anyway to append settings to the end of the URL https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html so that I could bookmark the page to start with e.g. USD to AUD instead of default USD to EUR

Sorry for taking long to answer, I saw your suggestion just a few hours ago. Please, quote or @mention me next time you have suggestions

I just added your suggestion. Amazing idea.

Now you can do so by using this link:

https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html?d=AUD


I've just got one small suggestion that I hope you might be able to implement - to the far right(or left) of any/all boxes that you can enter a value there is a button with a padlock icon to either lock the price, or conversely unlock the price.  I've had a few occasions where I've entered e.g $ 47.50 and with in a minute or two the price and the bitcoin value are jumping all over the place.  (the dollar value will show $ 47.52 and the price of bitcoin shown will end up showing e.g. 0.10289999999999999 bitcents...

This is a known bug. I am not able to solve it now :/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: RickDeckard on November 07, 2021, 12:49:37 PM
As I've mentioned in the past, great tool @bitmover. I wonder, however, if everything is right with the options : Select a fiat currency ; 10 USD and + 10USD. Whenever I try to convert BTC value to any kind of fiat currency, it simply doesn't show anything and the same goes for those two buttons mentioned previously. I reckon than in the past I would just have to select the currency and I would get the conversion rate instantly.

Perhaps there's some kind of problem in the API? I've noticed at least 2-3 days ago and thought that it was just a minor error at the time, but days have passed and it's still happening...

Note: There's a slight chance that I' may be using the platform incorrectly, so I apologize in advance if that's the case.

Lighthing edit : Funny thing, if I go directly to this URL[1] straight from the option within the website the box doesn't work but if I go to the one that you've posted before me[2] it works ...


[1]https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html (https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html)
[2]https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html?d=AUD (https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html?d=AUD)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: bitmover on November 07, 2021, 02:39:54 PM
As I've mentioned in the past, great tool @bitmover. I wonder, however, if everything is right with the options : Select a fiat currency ; 10 USD and + 10USD. Whenever I try to convert BTC value to any kind of fiat currency, it simply doesn't show anything and the same goes for those two buttons mentioned previously. I reckon than in the past I would just have to select the currency and I would get the conversion rate instantly.

Perhaps there's some kind of problem in the API? I've noticed at least 2-3 days ago and thought that it was just a minor error at the time, but days have passed and it's still happening...

Note: There's a slight chance that I' may be using the platform incorrectly, so I apologize in advance if that's the case.

Lighthing edit : Funny thing, if I go directly to this URL[1] straight from the option within the website the box doesn't work but if I go to the one that you've posted before me[2] it works ...


[1]https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html (https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html)
[2]https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html?d=AUD (https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html?d=AUD)

Thank you so much for pointing it out.

I coded the URL parameter very quickly and I didn't notice that I broke up the page when the parameter d was null.

It is already fixed now!! Page should now be working properly.

Please tell me if you find any other bug


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: RickDeckard on March 22, 2022, 11:35:34 PM
bitmover sorry for being such a pain but it seems like something is off with the unit conversion[1][2] - For the past couple of hours I'm not able to get any fiat exchange. I've already tried with different browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Edge) and the value doesn't appear in any of them. I've checked the status of exchangerate.host but everything seems to be fine on their end:

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/20/3D06v.png

I wonder - have you performed a recent update to the website? I've used the tool last Sunday and everything was working as intended...

[1]https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html (https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html)
[2]https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/20/3DljH.png (https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/20/3DljH.png)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: bitmover on March 23, 2022, 10:27:21 AM
bitmover sorry for being such a pain but it seems like something is off with the unit conversion[1][2] - For the past couple of hours I'm not able to get any fiat exchange. I've already tried with different browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Edge) and the value doesn't appear in any of them. I've checked the status of exchangerate.host but everything seems to be fine on their end:

I am happy to see you are using it!
It is working now in my mobild, can you check again?

If it is not working, please right click and click Inspect (anywhere in the page). A new side bar will open. Click in in Network and reload. do you see any error in any api?



i have seen a big increase in visitors recently (6k unique visitors and 55k request every month)

i am thinking about somehow to monetize this website, i willl try to rent a space to some companies. i will try to announce in the service board.

sugggestions regarding this are welcome.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: examplens on March 23, 2022, 01:50:40 PM
bitmover sorry for being such a pain but it seems like something is off with the unit conversion[1][2] - For the past couple of hours I'm not able to get any fiat exchange. I've already tried with different browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Edge) and the value doesn't appear in any of them. I've checked the status of exchangerate.host but everything seems to be fine on their end:

I am happy to see you are using it!
It is working now in my mobild, can you check again?


everything works normally for me, no issue.

i have seen a big increase in visitors recently (6k unique visitors and 55k request every month)

i am thinking about somehow to monetize this website, i willl try to rent a space to some companies. i will try to announce in the service board.

sugggestions regarding this are welcome.

bitmover, did you do an analysis of the site and your traffic?
how many of them are automatic visits, or bot visits, how long do visitors stay on the page, do they make additional clicks ... it may be important to introduce you to potential buyers of ad space on your site.

I would definitely consider adding advertisements from some of the ad networks. AdSense can be a good start, you definitely have solid traffic, to begin with.
I would also not overlook the possibility of an affiliate program. For example, BestChange offers such a possibility, and I'd say you're targeting a similar type of visitor. they seem open to any quality cooperation, I would not be surprised if you make a special deal.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: RickDeckard on March 23, 2022, 10:28:03 PM
bitmover sorry for being such a pain but it seems like something is off with the unit conversion[1][2] - For the past couple of hours I'm not able to get any fiat exchange. I've already tried with different browsers (Firefox, Chrome, Edge) and the value doesn't appear in any of them. I've checked the status of exchangerate.host but everything seems to be fine on their end:

I am happy to see you are using it!
It is working now in my mobild, can you check again?

If it is not working, please right click and click Inspect (anywhere in the page). A new side bar will open. Click in in Network and reload. do you see any error in any api?
Well, the issue seems to have sorted itself out. I swear that yesterday I've tried every browser in every device that I have and I couldn't get the exchange to work. Happy to report that it appears to work correctly now, thank you for the awesome support bitmover!
bitmover, did you do an analysis of the site and your traffic?
how many of them are automatic visits, or bot visits, how long do visitors stay on the page, do they make additional clicks ... it may be important to introduce you to potential buyers of ad space on your site.

I would definitely consider adding advertisements from some of the ad networks. AdSense can be a good start, you definitely have solid traffic, to begin with.
I would also not overlook the possibility of an affiliate program. For example, BestChange offers such a possibility, and I'd say you're targeting a similar type of visitor. they seem open to any quality cooperation, I would not be surprised if you make a special deal.
These are quite good advises if you're looking to take some profit out of your website bitmover. If the KPI's that examplens shared with you aren't enough, why not gather (and present) the same information that theymos uses[1] to attract ads for the forum? I find that the audience is the same so the KPI's reported by him are what people search for in order to evaluate if it's worth for them to pay you to show your users ads of their company (you could also take a peek at how Blockchair present their statistics to potential advertisers here[2]). Perhaps, as a starting point, I would ask in the service board if some advertiser within bitcointalk would be interested in advertising in your website as well. You could also try to post your stats on social networks such as Reddit (specific subs where this kind of action is allowed) or Twitter to gather attention of a wider audience ...

[1]https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats (https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats)
[2]https://blockchair.com/advertise (https://blockchair.com/advertise)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: Timelord2067 on March 24, 2022, 12:00:28 AM
i have seen a big increase in visitors recently (6k unique visitors and 55k request every month)

i am thinking about somehow to monetize this website, i willl try to rent a space to some companies. i will try to announce in the service board.

sugggestions regarding this are welcome.

May I suggest you don't turn the page into an endless series of meaningless advertisements raping our eyes.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: hugeblack on March 24, 2022, 08:36:01 AM
I watched this topic a long time ago, but I don't remember if I used it, in general the interface is good, but why you didn't mention the names of the currencies instead of referring to them, for example DKK - Danish Krone, COP - Colombian Peso and so on instead of DKK,COP.

i have seen a big increase in visitors recently (6k unique visitors and 55k request every month)

i am thinking about somehow to monetize this website, i willl try to rent a space to some companies. i will try to announce in the service board.

sugggestions regarding this are welcome.
You got community support and donations so commercial use of it in this way will not be good.
Try to modify the interface, and if you need advertising, make it instead of Supports: AED, AFN, ALL,...etc, with advertisement for open source applications, forum threads and paid advertisements.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: Iron Fist on March 24, 2022, 11:10:48 AM
I watched this topic a long time ago, but I don't remember if I used it, in general the interface is good, but why you didn't mention the names of the currencies instead of referring to them, for example DKK - Danish Krone, COP - Colombian Peso and so on instead of DKK,COP.

I am not sure if this is what you meant, but I believe the site already includes names of currencies in its interface.

https://i.imgur.com/pAbOTJJ.png

When I select a currency, I see the name of the currency and country above the selection box.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: ABCbits on March 24, 2022, 11:13:18 AM
i have seen a big increase in visitors recently (6k unique visitors and 55k request every month)

i am thinking about somehow to monetize this website, i willl try to rent a space to some companies. i will try to announce in the service board.

sugggestions regarding this are welcome.

May I suggest you don't turn the page into an endless series of meaningless advertisements raping our eyes.

Actually i don't mind advertising if,
1. The ads doesn't take too much space without any popup.
2. The ads limited to static image only with generic/basic tracking URL (similar with Bitcointalk ads). The image should be stored on your own domain/server.

Code:
awebsite.com/?utm_source=btcdata
awebsite.com/src/btcdata


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on March 24, 2022, 11:36:32 AM
I am not sure if this is what you meant, but I believe the site already includes names of currencies in its interface.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/14/blob0568079432b6bc70.png

When I select a currency, I see the name of the currency and country above the selection box.

Since USD is the dominated currency so I think OP just decided to have a separate converting field for it. If we were in Russian domination and the world economy would have Rubel dominance then we would see a Rubel field. If it was China then we would see Yuan 🤪

Overall this is a very useful project. It's a shame that I discovered it today.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: RickDeckard on March 24, 2022, 10:33:07 PM
Actually i don't mind advertising if,
1. The ads doesn't take too much space without any popup.
2. The ads limited to static image only with generic/basic tracking URL (similar with Bitcointalk ads). The image should be stored on your own domain/server.

Code:
awebsite.com/?utm_source=btcdata
awebsite.com/src/btcdata
I like this idea, as well as the others before it (specially the ones where you should try your best not to spam the website with ads). How about a "meet at halway point" solution? :

  • Implement a similar ad based strategy as the one employed by bitcointalk - They are stripped to the bare minimum of information being tracked/stored and it doesn't seem to bother the companies which pay advertisement slots, so there could be some room to maneuver there. I do know that examplens covers the costs related with the server[1] and that you've recently paid 5 years to keep the domain[2], but considering examplens previous reply, it seems that he also supports your idea of ad based revenue. At most you can always work on the idea that any donation receive shall be used to cover future improvements for the website, which ends up also helping you as in preventing you from financing additional features with your own money (if needed).
  • Implement "Buy me a coffe" feature and - While I know that this wouldn't probably be used - or would be, I tend to see the negative side of people - it's always a direct way that visitors - which aren't used to BTC I guess - would have to donate directly to you.

I wonder, however, if you could share with us the visits based on their location? My guess is that most of them come from USA, followed by China/Russia, but perhaps I'll be surprised!

[1]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289916.msg57668341#msg57668341 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289916.msg57668341#msg57668341)
[2]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289916.msg57673376#msg57673376 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289916.msg57673376#msg57673376)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: bitmover on March 28, 2022, 03:53:07 PM
These are quite good advises if you're looking to take some profit out of your website bitmover. If the KPI's that examplens shared with you aren't enough, why not gather (and present) the same information that theymos uses[1] to attract ads for the forum? I find that the audience is the same so the KPI's reported by him are what people search for in order to evaluate if it's worth for them to pay you to show your users ads of their company (you could also take a peek at how Blockchair present their statistics to potential advertisers here[2]). Perhaps, as a starting point, I would ask in the service board if some advertiser within bitcointalk would be interested in advertising in your website as well. You could also try to post your stats on social networks such as Reddit (specific subs where this kind of action is allowed) or Twitter to gather attention of a wider audience ...

[1]https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats (https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats)
[2]https://blockchair.com/advertise (https://blockchair.com/advertise)

You got community support and donations so commercial use of it in this way will not be good.
Try to modify the interface, and if you need advertising, make it instead of Supports: AED, AFN, ALL,...etc, with advertisement for open source applications, forum threads and paid advertisements.

May I suggest you don't turn the page into an endless series of meaningless advertisements raping our eyes.

After careful consideration, and specially because of RickDeckard  and hugeblack and Timelord2067 comments, I decided to create small sponsored content in a few pages. The whole idea is based on blockchair.com ads.

There is going to be one button of the sponsored content per page, in the main header.

Mobile and desktop version of the ads:
https://i.imgur.com/pwGqbAF.png https://i.imgur.com/P9FuzIj.png

Those ads are not intrusive and they do not hurt user experience IMO.

Full details in the bitcointalk service board announcement:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391840.msg59675049#msg59675049
and here:
https://bitcoindata.science/advertise-here.html


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: examplens on March 28, 2022, 07:41:52 PM
After careful consideration, and specially because of RickDeckard  and hugeblack and Timelord2067 comments, I decided to create small sponsored content in a few pages. The whole idea is based on blockchair.com ads.

There is going to be one button of the sponsored content per page, in the main header.

ok, this is a good step with presenting traffic statistics. I made a small oversight, I only saw 55k requests monthly.  :D

You got some good advice from other members, but in real work, some things may be different. For example, the possibility of donation is a good direction, but Im not sure how stable that income can be and what is the potential of this type of monetization.
in addition to donations for domain and hosting, some work and effort have been invested, to be expected more than the "Buy me a coffee" feature as a reward.

bitmover, if you strictly follow instructions, all images for ads to be on your side, this means that you will have defined sizes of ads images. it will make it difficult for you to fit everything to be responsive on different screen sizes. You had 25% mobile device users, and you have to pay attention to their UX. This is one of the reasons why I suggest Adsense (as an example). They have responsive ads which will automate adapted to all screen sizes and site design, so it does not deviate much from the context of the page.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: RickDeckard on March 28, 2022, 10:03:24 PM
After careful consideration, and specially because of RickDeckard  and hugeblack and Timelord2067 comments, I decided to create small sponsored content in a few pages. The whole idea is based on blockchair.com ads.
There is going to be one button of the sponsored content per page, in the main header.
(...)
Full details in the bitcointalk service board announcement:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391840.msg59675049#msg59675049
and here:
https://bitcoindata.science/advertise-here.html
Thank you for considering our inputs bitmover. Considering what we discussed in the thread, the advertisement space - regarding size - doesn't shock me and I'm assuming you're trying to replicate these banners from blockchair.com:
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/20/3Delb.png
Or are you considering using a similar approach than the one you use on the "Donation" banner but without the need to click on it?

I've also noticed that you've placed the ad slot only on 3 "services" that you run - "Your TX in the mempool", "Balance Check" and "Unit Converter". May I ask why did you choose these ones? Are they the ones responsible for most of your traffic?

Regarding the positioning of the ad slot, have you considered placing it on either the right side of the banner or left side? You've got plenty of space there and perhaps you could place the ad slot in either of those spaces to make use of the space (I know the ad slot wouldn't be in the main field of vision though). Also, a personal preference of mine, what do you think of rounding up the corners of the ad slots button and the donate button? That design always looks more aesthetic to me than the straight lines from a rectangle but I reckon it can vary amongst users...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: bitmover on March 29, 2022, 01:11:45 AM
I've also noticed that you've placed the ad slot only on 3 "services" that you run - "Your TX in the mempool", "Balance Check" and "Unit Converter". May I ask why did you choose these ones? Are they the ones responsible for most of your traffic?

Yes, those are responsible for the main traffic.

Quote
Regarding the positioning of the ad slot, have you considered placing it on either the right side of the banner or left side? You've got plenty of space there and perhaps you could place the ad slot in either of those spaces to make use of the space (I know the ad slot wouldn't be in the main field of vision though). Also, a personal preference of mine, what do you think of rounding up the corners of the ad slots button and the donate button? That design always looks more aesthetic to me than the straight lines from a rectangle but I reckon it can vary amongst users...

Additionally, I will in a few weeks redesign the whole website and remove some of the other links, and maybe add new ones.

I have a few new design ideas and tools ideas.

bitmover, if you strictly follow instructions, all images for ads to be on your side, this means that you will have defined sizes of ads images. it will make it difficult for you to fit everything to be responsive on different screen sizes. You had 25% mobile device users, and you have to pay attention to their UX. This is one of the reasons why I suggest Adsense (as an example). They have responsive ads which will automate adapted to all screen sizes and site design, so it does not deviate much from the context of the page.

I think those ads from cointraffic, adsense, etc are ugly and they pay too low... This is why people add lots of them (and big ones) to get more money.

As I have strong community support and donations are not insignificant (about 220 usd in two years, 3CrySAp8G1PfvjrYT4HPQhE8MouBKWd9WB) I will try to keep this business model.

Let's see if any company from bitcointalk is interested.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: RickDeckard on August 15, 2022, 11:57:18 PM
I've been watching the website and sadly it seems that you haven't found a client to advertise in it bitmover... Don't loose your hopes, I'm sure that eventually someone will appear!
On a second note, am I the only one that doesn't get a graph whenever I click on the "1M" option? (all the other adjust options get adjusted accordingly) I've tried Firefox and Edge and both return this:

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/20/3DrZf.png

I suppose that something has to be off due to the fact that the Y axis only shows segments of $ 1K... Sorry for being a pain in the a** bitmover!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: examplens on August 16, 2022, 07:07:50 AM
I suppose that something has to be off due to the fact that the Y axis only shows segments of $ 1K... Sorry for being a pain in the a** bitmover!

yes, this happens to me too, but only on a monthly period selected. 6M, YTD, 1Y and max work fine.

bitmover, now I noticed that all your external links open in the same window. you need to change that and add an opening in the new tab/window. adding target="_blank" in the link will solve it.
You don't want your visitors to leave your site just because they want to know what is satoshi (unit) definition on Wikipedia is.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Unit Converter:🔁Convert satoshi, mBTC,Finney, bit to 170 fiat currency
Post by: bitmover on August 18, 2022, 07:00:08 PM
I suppose that something has to be off due to the fact that the Y axis only shows segments of $ 1K... Sorry for being a pain in the a** bitmover!

Thanks for pointing this out.

I found this was a problem with the API I was using. Coindesk abandoned the API and they stopped to make price updates exactly at 17-07-2022
For now, I just removed the chart. This is not important as it is very easy to find a bitcoin chart anywhere.

I will redesign this website in a few months and try to create something new. I will find some interesting framework that I want to learn and redesign it from scratch.

I will probably do it using React and bootstrap 5 or material design ui