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Bitcoin => Hardware wallets => Topic started by: HCP on November 24, 2020, 02:33:01 AM



Title: Ledger Black Friday Promo 2020
Post by: HCP on November 24, 2020, 02:33:01 AM
Ledger are offering 40% off all of their hardware wallets from November 23rd-30th... promocode is: blackfriday20 (you apply it at checkout)

I thought they might have offered even more given the problems surrounding the data breach and ongoing phishing attacks... Even at 40% off, I think it might be a hard sell for a lot of people.


Anyway, you can read more about it here: https://shop.ledger.com/pages/black-friday


Title: Re: Ledger Black Friday Promo 2020
Post by: dkbit98 on November 24, 2020, 08:22:11 AM
I thought they might have offered even more given the problems surrounding the data breach and ongoing phishing attacks... Even at 40% off, I think it might be a hard sell for a lot of people.

I would not waste a single dollar satoshi for ledger wallet, and they are probably going to end up like Keepkey soon, brick selling for $5 but nobody will use it anymore.
Competition wallets like Trezor and Coldard is open source and they offer nice discounts now, Trezor 20% and Coldcard 15%


Title: Re: Ledger Black Friday Promo 2020
Post by: examplens on November 24, 2020, 11:26:35 AM
I don't think the data breach will affect them that much in the long run. They have such a big market share when it comes to hardware wallet that it is very difficult to compete against them. 40% seems like a reasonable discount. They are trying to earn some goodwill but you can't expect them to discount it so much that they lose a lot of money.

Reasonable? I agree, but 40% isn't that appealing considering it's black friday. On black friday, i expect at least 50%.

They also offer free shipping but only for Ledger Nano X model, which is not negligible. So, it is 40% + free shipping (if it's also in black Friday promotion). For example, when select Ledger Nano S, shipping is around $18 for me.

https://i.ibb.co/kBbLwkt/image.png (https://imgbb.com/)

I would not waste a single dollar satoshi for ledger wallet, and they are probably going to end up like Keepkey soon, brick selling for $5 but nobody will use it anymore.
Competition wallets like Trezor and Coldard is open source and they offer nice discounts now, Trezor 20% and Coldcard 15%

I agree with you, I gave up buying Ledger, I'll still stay with Trezor.


Title: Re: Ledger Black Friday Promo 2020
Post by: LeGaulois on November 24, 2020, 01:23:12 PM
I would not waste a single dollar satoshi for ledger wallet, and they are probably going to end up like Keepkey soon, brick selling for $5 but nobody will use it anymore.
Competition wallets like Trezor and Coldard is open source and they offer nice discounts now, Trezor 20% and Coldcard 15%

Open source doesn't make it more secure than closed source ::) It could even be the opposite in some cases.
IRL Apple is a closed source (right?), yet they sell millions of phones with its system. So before nobody uses Ledger any more chickens will have teeth, as we say in my country.

Open a Ledger to see how it's inside and look at the quality of the components, and do the same with Trezor. Come back after to tell us.

"they offer nice discounts now, Trezor 20% and Coldcard 15%"

Oh, now it's all about which is offering the biggest discount?

Last time your argument was because of the data breach, it doesn't mean the hardware security is concerned. Then it was about the website itself when you posted a useless table, another stupid argument. Then it was about claiming Ledger does nothing after the breach which turned out to be false!

Grow up!

Reasonable? I agree, but 40% isn't that appealing considering it's black friday. On black friday, i expect at least 50%.

Watch out for the Christmas offer  :P


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Title: Re: Ledger Black Friday Promo 2020
Post by: dkbit98 on November 24, 2020, 01:44:51 PM
Please stay on topic, stop with shilling and read how bad, cheap and unsecure ledger is: https://wallet.fail/

I opened ledger and this is what I found inside:

https://i.imgur.com/yRHnmBj.jpg

Also not bad to read new phishing attacks before you spend any satoshi on any ledger deal:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/jzuhr5/beware_new_level_of_phishing_campaigns_just/
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(Ledger, I would like to hear a word about your non announced data leak from your affiliate platform, since another (different) unique email of mine leaked from there too! Frankly, I feel you are trying to hide this other leak.)

I agree with you, I gave up buying Ledger, I'll still stay with Trezor.
Good decision.
Don't waste your money and don't fall for shillers selling cheap snake oil wallets.


Title: Re: Ledger Black Friday Promo 2020
Post by: bob123 on November 24, 2020, 02:50:02 PM
Please stay on topic, stop with shilling and read how bad, cheap and unsecure ledger is: https://wallet.fail/

That's right, lets stay on topic: The Black friday promo sale.

BTW, those vulnerabilities have been found more than 2 years ago. The firmware vulnerability has been fixed.

It's funny how you hate on ledger, but endorse trezor with a unfixable hardware vulnerability which leads to seed extraction.

You are obviously the only shiller here with no technical competence to estimate the security of software, hardware and wallets in general.
Believe what you want to, but the picture you posted, just shows whats going on inside of your head.


Title: Re: Ledger Black Friday Promo 2020
Post by: Coin-Keeper on November 24, 2020, 09:36:49 PM
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but endorse trezor with a unfixable hardware vulnerability which leads to seed extraction.

You could never extract the SEED from my Trezor T.  Anyone using a T that has not already eliminated that risk is simply "asleep at the wheel".  I even plant false bait with a bogus SD file, where the actual SD needed is hidden.  If an adversary wants to "chase their tail" decrypting a false file then have fun!

Both hardware wallets (Ledger and Trezor) are great devices.  I just wanted to set the record straight about exposed SEED vulnerability on a T.  And of course with either a 40 + character passphrase would further remove the risk of any SEED leaks due to operator error.


Title: Re: Ledger Black Friday Promo 2020
Post by: Rath_ on November 25, 2020, 09:05:42 AM
You could never extract the SEED from my Trezor T.  Anyone using a T that has not already eliminated that risk is simply "asleep at the wheel".

Good for you then. Enabling SD card protection requires trezorctl (https://wiki.trezor.io/Using_trezorctl_commands_with_Trezor) which cannot be installed on Windows without WSL. Even if the instructions are clear, I don't think you can expect an average user to do that. Don't forget that Trezor does not inform their new users about this vulnerability. Not everyone does a thorough research before buying a hardware wallet.

They might add this feature at some point to Trezor Suite, but I doubt that they will enforce it in any way. Let's not derail this thread. If you want to reply to my post, please do it here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122438.0).


Title: Re: Ledger Black Friday Promo 2020
Post by: NeuroticFish on November 30, 2020, 08:59:45 AM
In case anyone is interested, today, as the last day of Black Friday promotion, Ledger has 45% discount instead of 40%. I just got e-mail about this.
The promo code to be used is: BFLASTDAY



PS. I know that ledger is not perfect, but I have one Nano S and I'm pretty much satisfied with the product.


Title: Re: Ledger Black Friday Promo 2020
Post by: Lucius on November 30, 2020, 11:41:56 AM
Ledger has 45% discount instead of 40%. I just got e-mail about this.

They follow the same tactics as last year, 5% extra (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204420.msg53241545#msg53241545) on the last day. For those who are still not satisfied with the offer, last year the discount for BF was only 30% (max 35%) - but it is very likely that the Christmas - New Year's offer will go up to 50%.


Title: Re: Ledger Black Friday Promo 2020
Post by: dkbit98 on November 30, 2020, 01:42:54 PM
In case anyone is interested, today, as the last day of Black Friday promotion, Ledger has 45% discount instead of 40%. I just got e-mail about this.

Soon 100% discount sale...
New customer data coming, hackers happy, everyone happy :D

I wrote email to ledger asking them about some security stuff and I got stupid generic machine answer + I got a new phishing email from hackers ::) :

https://i.imgur.com/qxE0BB1.png  https://i.imgur.com/OraPVGW.png



Title: Re: Ledger Black Friday Promo 2020
Post by: NeuroticFish on November 30, 2020, 02:00:21 PM
I wrote email to ledger asking them about some security stuff and I got stupid generic machine answer + I got a new phishing email from hackers ::) :

Omg  :D   Sorry that I find it funny to happen exactly to you...
I don't even remember if/when I've got phishing mail from them. I get such mails from time to time, but I get much more targeting PayPal (which, funny enough, I use at an average of less than once per year). But I mark them as spam and going forward...

About Ledger, they do have issues indeed, some care more about them, some less. As I already said, the actual device is OK, imho, although all their other services seem to go from bad to worse.
This means that some may be interested on the coupon code. And if they don't, no biggie.


I think that your (recent?) grudge against Ledger may consume you more than harm them.
And sadly for you, people (consumers) tend to have only very short term memory, so in a couple your energy will be depleted and their buyers will not care.
I don't care at all about Ledger's sales, well being and such (in case somebody starts some wild interpretations), I just wanted to say in more words: take care and save your energy.