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Cards are listing at 399 and up.


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-steel-and-black/6439402.p?skuId=6439402

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-ventus-2x-oc-bv-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-black-black/6441172.p?skuId=6441172


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-eagle-oc-8g-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-black/6442485.p?skuId=6442485

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-gaming-oc-8g-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-black/6442484.p?skuId=6442484

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 evga links


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3663-KR

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3667-KR

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zotac links

https://www.zotac.com/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-twin-edge

https://www.zotac.com/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-twin-edge-oc

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oddball links

https://galaxstore.net/GeForce-RTX%E2%84%A2-3060-TI-Series_c_56.html

https://wccftech.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-8-gb-graphics-card-review-msi-gaming-x-trio-galax-ex/

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-trio-x-review,1.html

https://www.cnet.com/news/geforce-rtx-3060-ti-wins-at-399-for-1440p-gaming/


Note this link claims 61mh  hash rate. for eth at 120 watts which makes it very close to the amd 5700 xt efficiency of 51mh at 101 watts

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-ethereum-mining-performance-leaks-out

It does 61 mhs on eth with 110 watts.  It's way better than 5700. I predicted it to be way better than 3070 x performance ratio, i mean being the 3070 a failure of course, both 256 bit bus on gddr6, right now a 3060 ti is a better bet than 5700, will hold better resale value. A person that wants to mine eth can't go wrong with 3060 ti. It will be the choice gpu for miners I guess.

Well if you can grab them at 400 they are better then amd 6800 at 600

and you can no longer get the amd 5700 under 400

If these launch with stock to buy them they also hurt the 1080ti resale prices. 1080ti's are going for over 300 up to 400

These at 399 are better.

All depends  on if you can buy them. And if eth price stays high.

yeah, I guess we can say a 3060 ti is likewise what a rx 470 was in 2017. It will hold resale value quite well. The 3070 as I predicted was a failure, 100 usd for the same hashrate on eth is just a no go, miners need to save money, eth mining is soon gone and if roi is more than 360 days then gameover, not worth the hassle. The 3060 ti is 24% faster than rx 5700 and yet the same price, so in theory will hold at least 24% more resale value for gamers.

Also if we compare, a 3080 for gaming, uses 352 watts and the 3060 ti uses 206 watts, that is almost 146 less watts than the 3080 which equals 40% or so, we need to know stock hashrates to determine if the 3060 ti is better than the 3080.

The 3060ti performance beats RX5700 with 10 more Hashrates when I tested it days ago, the 3060ti gives an exact of 61MH/s when mining Ethereum and my RX5700 did on 50 MH/s, for the price I think it's pretty good and the nvidia card is more cooler than the AMD RX5700

The good thing here is that you dont need to modify the bios.

3060ti 61mhs stock? I think rx 5700 stock is 51 mhs.

If really does 61Mhs with 110w on the wall, it will be the best card to mine
2 of them will do 122Mhs with 220w, better than 3080

5600xt can do 40Mhs for 90w and will lost the best efficiency per watt

But will be impossible to buy at MSRP like any other GPUs

I saw some tests here and 3060ti is very close to 3070, and I think 3070 will be the worst card to buy because of the price

Yeah, 5600xt/5700 is pretty much dead for mining. I still prefer the 3080 for density, managing 2 x 3080 is better than 3 x 3060 ti, on performance per watt then 2 x 230 = 460 watts, 3 x 120 watts = 360 watts, yeah you save 100 watts with 3060 ti. I guess possibly the 3060 ti is a little bit ahead in the end.

For people like me who pays more on electricity, I'll prefer to save 100w in the end, Nvidia cards are pretty easy to deal, even 6 card or + rigs
AMDs ones are hard to keep running 24/7, but I always liked Nvidia ones to maintain, only set overclock and undervolt in MSI Afterburner and let mining for months without restart

Don't know the prices you guys have, but here in my country, 3070 are the same price as 3080 at the launch, and 3080 skyrocketed and costs 30% more  :o
There's no card to buy right now with reasonable prices, only 5600 and 5700xt

I'll try to grab one 3060ti at launch here, I'm sure they will increase the price on second batch, and unfortunately here, they are using bots to buy

Yeah, nvidia gpus are always easier to manage than amd, also a lot less issues and problems which is why nvidia gpus have resale values higher than amd. Anything you can save on electricity and yet manage is not that hard then is better, reason the 3060 ti might in the end be a better gpu than what rx 470 was in 2017.

hmmm 61MH @ 120W makes it about 20% more efficient than a 5700 and 10% more efficient than a 5600. Definitely worth considering if the price is right.

I agree amd rigs do require a little bit of TLC, but once you do a couple it isn't _that_ bad. I used up the last few amps of capacity by building rx5600 rigs. 44mh @ 90+W. Managed to cramp 8 of these in a server case with a single 1000w psu, so in terms of density, it is about on par with the 3060ti

plus amd cards havent been effected by the dag as much as similar nvidia cards

WHAT HAS HAPPENED NOW IS YOU JUST CAN'T BUY NEW CARDS AT A GOOD PRICE.

I shouted that because eventually this happened in 2018 Jan and Feb then it all crashed.

Not saying don't buy any gpus. I am saying go slow.

Maybe I get lucky with a 3060ti or 2 tomorrow.  But not looking to get 3 or 4.

I have gotten an offer for 50x 3080  shipped on the 20th of December. but I don't want to put up over 35k

Just to have market crash.

I have
2
30
2
6
11
1

52 cards   almost paid off 


I don't need to buy 50 and be 35k in the hole

up to november 2017 was okay to buy gpus, eth was 400 usd, once eth started going up and reached 1400 usd then it got crazy, I saw rx 580 sold for $800 and up and the msrp was $200.

50x for 35k? should have jumped on it and be a gpu reseller  ;D

I can't believe and fully understand what's happening right now, it looks like people are in FOMO to buy and have GPUs, at least in my country people are buying at extremely high prices and every single GPUs stores put to sell, sold out in a few minutes (1 to 5 minutes to be precise)
We have a kind of Craigslist here, and people are buying and selling with 50% profits and people are still buying, without warranty, and not only for mining, but gamers are waking up early just to see if store add more stock online

We all know market will eventualy crash have a correction and at least my gear is almost paid, and the value of my GPUs are good

3060ti will probably be my last try to get a GPU this year at a reasonably price

If the cards were in hand I would have purchased them all.

But they ship out on Dec 20 I get them on Dec 24 or 26.

That is too long. Market may correct by then.

I have 52-53 cards

3 x   3080
12x  5700xt
12x  5600
 9 x  5500


11 1080ti's
  3   1660ti's
  1   1660
  1   1050  still mines at a profit on kpow

I owe less than 1.2k and I am clearing almost 60 a day under very temporary free power deal.

So in 20 days all cards are free and clear.

My profits drop from 60 down to 30 a day as free power for the cards goes by by.

But to have all those cards paid off is money in the bank.

I am hoping for shortages to continue.

As I have listed the 1080ti's and the 1660tis and the 1660 and the 1050 is not for sale

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288643.0

I wonder about that, I don't think bitcoin or eth is in a bubble yet. If bitcoin hits 50k+ and eth hits 5k+ then yeah, I would call it a bubble, at moment I see no bubble, correction yeah but in the end it will keep going up till we hit a bubble. The truth is we don't know the real prices of eth and btc at moment. Yeah we had a crash because of the pandemic, if wasn't for the pandemic eth would be around 2k and bitcoin 25k and the other truth is that eth can still be mined, so eth buyers tend to look if miners are getting any profit, the more miners get from mining the more people are not willing to pay that eth price at moment, I mean, I wonder what will happen once 4gb cards don't work anymore mining eth because as it stands, profit will increase, we just dont know how much because 4gb gpus along with many 4gb asics will be gone, right now, dag 379, that is it, the last 5 days for 4gb cards are here, after this, will only be able to mine with loss of speed with lolminer or alike. Old asics will still be able to mine till December 24, gpus will be done next week or so.


Make your bets trolls, I'm still confident on eth and btc prices going up.

Yesterday saw video test Gigabyte GPU - 63Mh at windows, pl 80%, memory +1500, 140Wt. In stock it gives about 51Mh and 200Wt. I dont know about price but seems it would be about 3070.

Thanks, so stock is the same as rx 5700, no surprise.

Dizzy posted test few minutes a go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z7vi5eD1WI

Do you have the source of this test?
I saw some people talking about overclocking +1500mhz on memories of new RTXs, and now with 3060ti, but is this level of overclock sustainable?
Previous generations I was able to achieve +1000Mhz with good memories (Samsung) and totally stable, more than that become a little messy, sometimes +1100 but nothing like +1500mhz...

63Mhs with 140w is not a RX 5700 killer, more efficient ok, but not so much

my 2080supers and 3070 have been oced to +1500 and have been running fine without problems

in the sense is 24% better than rx 5700 for gaming and yet the same price, will hold better resale value but that is it, efficiency not sure yet, need to see the power at wall, 130 watts on software usually is 160 watts real.


as long you keep it cool yeah, problem is you cant see memory temperature on 3xxx series, on rx 5700 you can and that is very important.

"Retailers say Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti launch stock is like all the 3080, 3090, and 3070 cards combined"


https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-rtx-3060-ti-stock-levels-3080-3090-3070-combined/

I guess if true then will help to offload all the drama somewhere else hehe

If price is close to msrp then I will buy one, need a replacement for my gtx 1070, was going to buy a 3080 but with all the nonsense, might settle for something that is easier to find and uninterested for scalpers hehe

Did somebody manage to get some? In UK are out of stock...

Yep I got 2 GPUs by checking every seconds
But very expensive 540€ each (Gainward GeForce RTX 3060 Ti Phoenix with 3 fans)

The video above (61MH @120W) made the decision of buying.

it is available but for 743$.  ;D i will wait, too expensive

In France, no 3060ti available in stock after 15 minutes.
Merchants announce next expedition after 1st january 2021...

Sounds about right. saw stock for about 3seconds instead of 1

This is the reason why i've avoided the 3080s after seeing people experience throttling - some of my 5700s, those that throttle due to high mem temps such as the sapphire pulse and asus dual evos, have seen max mem oc degrade. At new they started fine at 1800, but now some can only run at 1724.

my 3080's are at 1500 I added a fan to cool a bit more.  been good for 2 weeks

and I missed out on the 3060ti they sold out.

You trolls are crazy, buying gpus this expensive will only make things worse, you trolls never learn.

Are you kidding ? I am trying those cards. 1k€ investment is painless.
Mining is a competition. If you cannot follow, give up now.

Your answer only made it worse hehe, this is the reason why nvidia and amd is not charging $200 for midranges gpus anymore, now they charge from $400 to $550 and you trolls pay ehhe, yeah is a competition between trolls x idiots, keep it up hehe

This card won't hold as much value as 3070 if paying the same price

Why it seems to use less power and close to the same hash.

It is not worth 499 but 399 is almost okay price.

I have a lot of 1080ti's they will hold value as long as the

3060
3070
3080   Can not  be sold at oem price.

The amds

5700
5600 can not be found

and the 6800 6800xt can't be found.

even the 5500 is hard to get.

So we are in a crazy time.
Also ETH may have a hard upswing which makes the cards more value.

Yea around $499 is ok , anything more than that is 3070 range .
Currently only 1 store in Canada has 3070 in stock but for $600 before taxes

Nice to have a NVIDIA card more efficient then a 5700 and I bet a lot more stable.   :P

I had the chance to buy a Gigabyte RTX 3060 Ti, 8GB, GAMING OC, 3 fans, 3 years warranty, but the price was equivalent of 745 USD + shipping  :o

Wow, it's almost the same price as 3070 here, and it was sold out in a few minutes, people saw the videos of performance and bought everything, not miners but gamers

So here the only available GPUs are 3070s with prices of 3080s

I'll try to grab one 3060ti to mine and play some games on holidays, 63Mhs under 140w looks good to me

Patiences young padwan, do not ever buy overpriced things, let the idiots/trolls buy everything overpriced first, they serve as guinea pigs anyway eheh

Got my third 3080 today. stock is 769 plus tax or 823

I paid 856 a very small markup. As metroid says do not pay big markups.

Why buy a 3060ti for 750 it is just about 2x the right price.

Got 2 bottom rung gigabyte 3060ti eagles. Both can only achieve +1025 on the mem (effective speed 7825mhz) probably due to the cheap cooler design.
60MH @ 140W

if memory thermal pads dont help then is hard to achieve anything higher, no surprise, gigabyte need to sack the cooling team.

I'm not sure if memory pads will help, the cooler itself is pretty light weight and only a dual slot dual fan design. With my garage at 20C, the fans are running at 70% and core temp is at 70C. I shudder to think how bad it will be during summer.

I got one of these



https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3663-KR


EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti XC GAMING, 08G-P5-3663-KR, 8GB GDDR6, Dual-Fan, Metal Backplate


The mark up was okay.

 I paid 513-26=477 with shipping included.

3 months to pay it off.

the heatsink on that looks even smaller than my gigabyte, but evga has always been a solid choice. Also that cooler isn't a passthrough design that is all the rage now which should be great for a mining setup

I been trying to get my hands on the newer GPUs but they even harder to get hold of then a PS5

you can skip the 3060tis, it really isn't worth it. 50% higher hashrate, 50% higher power consumption and 50% more expensive than a 5600xt.
If you want to build a rig, look for cheap 5600xt (it is possible) or hunt for used ones

Your numbers are off.

my 5600ts do an average 44MH@95W, and my 3060ti does 60MH@140W. On amazon you can get the 5600xt for £280 and i got the 3060ti @ £430.
Numbers look pretty spot on to me

39 to 42 at 89 watts for my 5600xt's as cheap as 250 usd

60 to 62 at 140 watts for the 3060ti at 488 usd points to getting 5600xt

but I can not get the 5600xt for 250 usd like I did in october


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-amd-radeon-rx-5600-xt-raw-ii-pro-6gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card/6398005.p?skuId=6398005

the one above is 330 x 1.07 x .87 = 308

so 488 compared to 308 is 1.58 to 1

62 to 39 = 1.58 to 1

basically a tie

if you have a 39th 5600 and get a 62 th 3060ti

it could vary but close to each one.

although an 8 card rig would be say 320 mh for the and and 480 mh for the nvidia

so space wise the nvidia makes sense.

Good price. In my country, the minimum price is 635 USD right now. Zotac

RX 5700 XT is better than RX 5600

Yes it is 49 to 55 mh.

It is hard to compare as we are in multiple countries with lots of different prices.

I own

 amd 5500 xt
amd. 5600 xt
amd. 5700 xt

some

amd 5600


I own multiple models of all of the above.

I own

evga 3080
evga 3060ti on the way.

the best cards i got were msi 5600 xt gaming not because they hash the most but they were very very very cheap when I got them. in october.

230 a card after all discounts with six months to pay at zero interest.

so no card compares to the hashrate per purchase price. under 6 usd per mh

but they do 39-41 mh at 90 watts

and my powercolor red dragon 5700xt do
52 mh at 105 watts.  but none were cheaper than 379 over 7 usd a mh

so while I like them they cost $ more per mh

my 3080 cost me 813 they do 93mh at 220 -230 watts

they are more expensive per mh close to 9 usd

lastly the 3060ti may do 62 mh and cost me 488 over 8 under 9 a mh

now i can not get october prices like

230 for a msi gaming 5600 xt
379 for a red dragon power color 5700xt

that same msi gaming 5600 xt is more then 300
the red dragon powercolor 5700 xt is more then 409

I can get a xfx 5700xt for 399 this would likely the best deal for me

compared to what I paid for the
3080 or the 3060ti

but I like nvidia cards more then amd

right now
 I have 30+ new amd
I have 3+ new nvidia

and I have 15 older nividia 1000 series cards.

So I would like to sell the old nivida and replace with new nvidia.

the 3070 looks like a no go
the 3090 looks like a no go
amd
the 6800 looks like a no go
the 6800 xt looks like a no go

if I had the room and paid only 230 each for the msi gaming 5600xt in bulk I would only have them.

quiet I liked them.  I cant get them for 230 usd any more.

That is what I say to people you have to see how best it work out for you, countries and prices differ. I myself would stay away from any new released gpu from amd or nvidia, as long there are idiots paying what they ask then they will never reduce the price, so be wise to yourself and don't play the gold rush game because this isn't, in the end of 2017 you might say that because yes you could actually receive 5 times the profit a 3080 earns, the 3080 gives you 3 usd per day per card, in the end of 2017, a top gpu would give 15 to 20 usd per day per card, so this is not like it was in the end of 2017, actually is far from, so do not play their game, do not pay more than msrp prices.

This is like 2016. Gpu cards were good not great.

Same with BTC asics profits in 2016 were good not great.

And we dipped later in 2016 until spring of 2017.  then moon shot

ETH 61MH/s / 120 Watt

can any1 post somme sreenshots?
like somme always says - pic or it newer happend...

is it too late to buy 30xx gpus to mine eth??  ???

It depends until when the bullrun will last, some say will end this year, some say it will go until the end of 2022. You need to understand that if it goes all the way to 2022 then you will have one more year of overpriced gpus everywhere, eth price hitting 5000 usd plus, that will make people bribe factories in china, overpaying by 5x everything like it happened in the end of 2017. The crash eth had in the beginning of 2018 was beautiful, that made 90% of those $800 rx 580 gpus worthless which later on, were sold for $99 or less and there were no people buying it. See my point, it all depends on the market, maybe nvidia and amd is helping to pump cryptocoins but there is a long way to go yet because mining rewards is not good at all, people here saying mining rewards are good then they have no idea what was in the end of 2017 or 2013, 3 usd per 3080 is very low to what we have seen in the end of 2017 which was around 25 usd per card, eth price needs to increase at least 10 times to be comparable to what we had in the end of 2017.

ETH price would have to increase a lot, first it has to go to 0.15 x btc at least, which would be 5x what is right now then it would have to at least drop 50% of the network difficulty right now. I would not count on either, eth 2 just launched and to get to 0.15 x btc it might happen in 2 to 3 years, I dont expect it right now, second too many hidden 8gb asics on eth network, farms in china are ready to add a lot when 4gb gpus and asics are done this December, so forget thinking difficulty will remain lower after December this year than what it is now. Even if a crash happens in the end of this year, eth 2 will bring the hype every year and with hype comes price increase, we might have a bullrun for the next 4 years, a different bullrun, sideways a lot and price increase every quarter or so during those 4 years. Probably eth might never crash like it happened in 2018, is too early to tell. Place your bets trolls hehe

https://youtu.be/wnlFY2z7ol8?t=1023
It`s in russian but everything is at the screen. Now there are alot of such videos i think, but you asked about it.
MSI ventus - 130Wt and 63MH.

It used to be, but now that you can bios mod 5600xt, it is about 15-25% better than a bios modded 5700

an 8 card 3060ti would require a beefier powersupply or a second one. They are also hard to put in a compact space. Like you i have a space issue and have to stack server cases. It would stop looking for 5600xts once they come out with blower 3060ti  ;D

quick test palit dual 3060ti
63mh-130w total BPD @145W from wall
60mh-120w BPD

https://i.hizliresim.com/hxqVsE.jpg

Are there any difference in power consumption between 3060ti vram samsung and 3060ti vram micron?

Didnt check my 3060tis for Samsung or micron. Simplemining gives 61 MH/s. Didnt check windows.
MSI Gaming X Trio OC

0: Asus RTX 2080 8GB
90.04.23.00.62
Bus id: 01:00.0
Asus RTX 2080 8GB

GPU Bios: 90.04.23.00.62
1095/8000
44.42 MH/s
108 W
39°C / 0%   
1: Gigabyte GTX 1080 8GB
86.04.3B.40.64
1556/4519
30.44 MH/s
99 W
41°C / 0%   
2: GTX 1080 8GB
86.04.17.00.0E
1632/4519
30.67 MH/s
99 W
38°C / 0%   
3: Msi Graphics Device 8GB
94.04.27.80.45
1470/8050
61.31 MH/s
129 W
48°C / 30%   
166.84 MH/s   475 W      

need to load the new simplemining drivers to show the name correct.

Had some spare time, so i took apart my gigabyte 3060ti eagle.
It is quite obvious why the temps are sub par on this card
1) no tim between memory heat spreader and heatsink
2) back plate is thick plastic and has a lip that impedes airflow.
https://i.imgur.com/av9tn6w.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mul3ZNs.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZaNeUzr.jpg

saw this crap on my gigabyte 5700 oc as well.

After reassembling without the plastic back plate (had to use a couple of washers to attach the heatsink back on), it looks like mem oc went from +1000 to +1200.

 :o That model is $100 cheaper than 3 fans anyway

you could mod the plate

and lay a fan on the hole you cut

these bits are up to 1.5 inch

https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DW1582-1-Inch-6-Inch-Spade/dp/B0001LQYHQ/ref=sr_1_3?

you know a 3d printer could make good  plates and the oem does not need to be cut

https://www.amazon.com/Dremel-Digilab-Printer-Hobbyists-Tinkerers/dp/B00NA00MWS/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?

the extra fan could mount on the card the replace meant plate could be 4 by 4




https://i.imgur.com/nXc50Nb.png

or 3d printing 120 mm PCI fan adapter  ;)
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2911846

Cannot get to that ROI.
At ~2usd/day for 61 mhs, I get ~8 months ROI. Without electric cost.

What am I missing?

I just removed the whole back plate  ;D that way i can always put it back together.

At least the thermal pad completely covers the ram unlike the msi rx5700 mech.

Dont have any spare 1mm pads so didnt replace the original ones. Without temperature measurements im not sure if it is worthwhile anyway

Sorry three months to pay my credit card company off and a 5% discount on the 513 purchase.

so 487 net price as  i subtracted wrong above and said 477.

so 487 after the cc discount and 90 days to pay the cc at no extra cost.

So for roi no one knows that.

I operate a bit differently than many miners.

I have gpus ,cpus,btc asics,ltc asics.

I have 1.4 ph of btc miners all paid off.
I have 10gh of ltc miners all paid off.
I around 60 gpus about 1600 usd owed. All on 90 day promos with no interest fees.

The gpus have temporary free power until end of the year.

So it is more complex to describe.  

Jan 1 all the gear above will be paid off. As I will prepay the 90  day promos this year for taxes.


At this point all gear will be paid.

I will get 25% of what it all earns. plus own it.

So explaining pay back or roi for me is complex.
 but explaining paying off the card via credit card promo is easy enoguh.

thank you for the explantation. Do you advice to buy and hold eth instead of mining it?

My advice is, if you can get gpus for msrp price then buy gpus at moment if not then buy coins, buying 3080 for 1200 usd is like buying eth for $1200 at moment. There will be no point buying eth once it reaches $1200 or higher as the risk increases.

pretty much matches my advice.

do not overpay more than 10% on a card OEM poem price.  edit due to sp ck
a 400 usd 3060ti is  worth no more than 440-460 usd

a 769 usd 3080ti is worth no more than 850-860 usd

Thanks, now is clear. For a regular miner the ROI is a little bit longer at current gpu prices while having 1 usd/day for ~30mhs.
I hope Santa will give you/us a nice gift by boosting eth prices :))

You aren't missing anything, he is just playing with "house money".
You are correct, his breakeven point on his new cards are about as you've calculated. Even though he has other rigs to pay it off, the breakeven time of the additional capital deployed has to be calculated based on the incremental income it provides.

yeah. but 100% break-even for me zero debt and all paid off = very late December.

and if I had a rig you would be right way down the road. hundreds of days,

When you run bigger you look overall not a rig.  When I pay the tax man they ask me for all rigs combined not the 1 rig.

I get to offset the rig price this year against this years earnings.

Not telling you how you should do your calculations, but normally when deciding whether to put more capital to work (buying gpus), one has to look at the breakeven time of the additional capital deployed based on the income it achieves and not from other income streams. So the breakeven time of your new 3080 isnt in 3 months, as the other poster assumed.

It doesnt matter how many rigs one has. Even if i had hundreds of gpus making thousands of dollars, i cannot justify a 3090 as a good way to spend my mining income.

Yes the taxman cares for all your existing mining income and will tax you for any incremental income from additional gpus purchased.

Thank you guys for advices  :)

The 3060ti finally arrived where I live, RTX 3060 TI MSI 8GB Gaming X Trio, $700 usd, keep paying double trolls, is just getting worse and worse. I still can get 5700 for $420 no problem, any new gpus they are charging double because they know there are idiots lined up to overpay it.

are you normal?
calling everyone all the time an idiots???
seems to me, idiot is someone else in this case....
so, calm down...

So, please help me find a better word for it, maybe gpu simps would fit it quite well because we all know simps are worse than idiots, simps do because they want to do, idiots do because they dont know about what they are doing. So yeah simps are worse than idiots.

I can get it for $550 with a piece of luck and for $650-700 easily. But even $550 is too much as for me. Possible to but, better then 3080 or 3070, but i dont ready to buy it right now.

How much is 3070?
I did pick up a few 3060 ti-s but they are starting to go crazy around here too.

$780 and higher if you want right now. With some luck - $730. If you believe in yourself and dont worry about guarantee - you can get it for $700 may be, about this i dont sure but looks truthfully.

Without warranty - only EVGA... although lately their policies are a bit different. They don't like miners.

the prices seem logical. if the 3060ti performs as well as the 2080super, and the 2080supers were going for £600, then the market will price it as such.
so new price tiers, 3060ti £600, 3070 £700 and £1000 for 3080. These prices are what amazon uk is asking for (not third party sellers)  :-\.

Logical? if every 2 years was like you stated, then in 2 years a 5nm rtx 4060ti would be the price of a rtx 3080 which at moment is $1200 and then in 2 years a 3nm 5060ti would be the price of a rtx 4080 would be  around $2000, see where this is going? in 2007 nvidia released a 8800gt which had performance of a 8800 gtx with half the price, in your concept, the 8800gt should have had the same price and that was logical? thankgod the people at that time is not like the people in this time because if the bs had started way back, then a 3060ti at moment would be 50k and yeah that for you would have been logical hehe, doubling price and performance every 2 years hehe

But the evolution for GPUs and hardwares in general is cheaper prices for equal of better performance of previously generation, if the price remains the same for same performance, better buy old hardwares, it's all available and already tested.

I know the moment is not good due to a lot of factors that is hard to explain (scarcity, mining, gamers wanting to buy, coronavirus etc), but I always had PC and best GPUs of previously generations are equal to entry cards of next generations, and for less price.

I came across a weird issue where I cant run a 3060ti or 3070 GPU in a windows rig. It will detect in device manager and install but both wont be recognized by the miner and Ive tried several. Worksp erfectly fine when combined with other cards though

Logical yes, as we are in unprecedented times, disrupted supply chains and high demand thanks to trump bucks and non stop money printing.

Who knows, stranger things could happen, maybe what you postulate could be true  :)

Agreed, if was not trump bucks then it would have been hillary ultra bucks hehe, thankgod it was just a trump bucks hehe

My card is coming in  a day.


https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-gv-n306taorus-m-8gd/p/N82E16814932375?


I paid oem list price and 24 to ship so 513.

It is supposed to be a premium 3060ti

I will post back once I  fire it up.

I can agree that they are logical right now. But for me as a miner: i compare it with 1660s or 5600xt, not 2080s. And right now 5600xt is cheaper about 20% for me, counting $ per MH.

 ;D No stock until March , just one shipment before new year and then we're in a black hole

This is what I heard

I have them both in a rig and they work just fine.

Where did you find this information?

I know there are scarcity of some pieces used to produce GPUs but didn't heard this, in my country we have stock of 3060ti, 3070ti and 3090, only hard to find 3080
But all at insane prices, only 3090 are pricing correctly

3060ti is something near 750 USD right now, I think Nvidia did more 3060ti than another series

Anyone already tested 3060ti from Galax?
I found on store but saw it's only 2 fans, instead of 3 of Gigabyte I was thinking to buy

The gigabyte 3 fans is better with heatsink touching mem
I mean pricing of 3060 Ti near MSRP

$750 Canadian $ here
https://www.amazon.ca/GeForce-Graphics-IceStorm-Advanced-ZT-A30610H-10M/dp/B08P3V572B/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=3060+ti&qid=1607646696&sr=8-1

So I got an aorus 3060ti

running on simple mining

core = 10
memory = 1800
watts = 130

it gives me 58mh

any clocking suggestions for it?

Been running two MSIs at 100 core, 2200 mem and 115 watts getting 60 on smos.  But I just added an ASUS 3060 ti and it is getting rejects at these settings.

thanks for info

I have settled at this  for smos

core+10     gives me 1425 reading seems stable
ram +2600 gives me 8100 reading seems stable
watts 125
hash 61.32mh

29 shares no rejects

I will run this for an hour or 2  may try 120 watts next

I would suggest that you manually set your fan speeds a little high to keep the memory cool since mem temps aren't monitored with 30 series.

Yeah did that. 75%

and that is bad, is a grave mistake, as long as you know the memory temperature, you can do something about it thus minimizing the risk of a future lost gpu, when memory starts failing then is too late.

Thomas Edison and his 800 hour light bulb strikes again.

BTW the ones in his office and home Lasted 50+ years.

724.9 MH/s - 1674W - 12 pcs Zotac 3060Ti
Stable - No invalid shares for 17 hours so far.


FAN   85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85
CORE   -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500
MEM   2200 2200 2100 2200 2200 2200 2200 2150 2150 2200 2150 2200
PL   125 125 125 125 125 125 125 125 125 125 125 125

okay I ran my single aorus overnight on smos

it did 61.28 set to

core +10
ram +2525
watts 120

it did 3414 good shares and 3 rejects.

can i post my msi ventis 2 oc rtx 3070 results while i'm waiting my Post to bring me new 3060ti?  ??? ;D :)

3070 is really good! 63.5 mhs @ 125watt. Win, msi afterburner and its Curve Editor. Rocks! 1155/8250@743mv.
Old good claymore. 1 mistaken solution overnight. Number of sent good shares is good enough comparing to vegas and TRM running simultaneously.

Well. I gave nbminer a try. And it uses 119watt instead of claymore's 125 with the same speed. cool!

PhoenixMiner

1675W - 731.7 MH/s

FAN   85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85
CORE   -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500 -500
MEM   2550 2550 2100 2700 2600 2150 2350 2150 2150 2450 2350 2500
PL   125 125 125 125 125 125 125 125 125 125 125 125


The same setting wilt lolminer:

1673W - 723.3 MH/s

Not bad considering PhoenixMiner is between 2-3% inflated the hash rate:
731,7 - 2% = 717,07   vs 723.3Mhs

I have a MSI Gaming Trio X and I've set core clock to -502 (give me 1500) and memory clock to +1100 (gives me 7900) in AfterBurner. In phoenix  I have the following -retrydelay 1 -ftime 55 -tt 60 -tstop 70 -tstart 65 -fanmin 30 -Rmode 1 and I get 60 Mh. Still, it shows me 216.7 W in phoenix and everybody is saying  roughly 120. What am I missing?

You have to either lower power limit or underclock.
You can also bump memclock a bit ... 8000 is OK

Thanks a lot, I've set the PL to 55% and MC to 8000 and I'm getting 130w and 60.5.

So no overheating ram issues with gddr6 (non-x) ?

Nope sir , OC & 60c in 20c room

@mado18

Set fixed low voltage with custom curve at afterburner.
Its left of core clock.

So far no-one is getting throttling or least no-one reported it here.

my aorus 3060ti is steady at

60.85 using 119 watts

 CARD---------------------------Clocks----------------Hash--------------Watts--------------Temp/fan
Gigabyte RTX 3060 Ti 8GB___1485/7976______60.85 MH/s______119 W__________49°C/ 65%

Thanks!

I got my new 3060 ti today. It´s a Gigabyte Aorus.

I have 58 Mhash @ 120 W with +800 memclock and 50 % TDP.

I have a powermeter at the wall, my 2070 showed 108 w where the power from the wall was 137. now the 3060 shows 120 w and power from wall is 175. so it´s 12w more, but in real it´s nearly 40w more :(

So the wattage display shown from the new 3060 is like the AMD cards are....it´s totally random and unreal numbers. (or my pc suddenly needs more power while hashing...)

I think I switch to a 3070 as my gaming performance is the same than the 2070S. and I wanted to be a little faster....hashing must be the same 3060 = 3070

ETH

$750, 1 x 3080 = 240w, 100 mhs
$850, 2 x 3060ti = 270w, 124 mhs

I think they are pretty even, i guess in the end is going to be what you prefer.

Or which one you can actually find and buy (right now)

pricing and availability are the key at this moment. Very hard to find anything at a decent price.

I did get a PowerColor 5700xt for 389. which is a bargain it is now listed for 590

3060ti is better.

61 Mhs - 125 Watt and no problems with the RAM temperatur.

Got 2x3060Ti and 1x3080.
Had some problems to get 3080 running at 96Mhash, but 3060 was easy to get 60.5.

General question - as I'm looking at all these different video cards - all the different models, I have questions about their sub-variants...  I'll see 3 or 4 different cards of the same model, with different Mhz rates...  Imagine availability wasn't a concern, would one want to get the highest Mhz option possible?  I was just looking at a series that ranged from 1710 Mhz to 1800 Mhz.  Is it a given that these higher Mhz cards will mine a little harder?  Or is it something that could lead to more like overheating issues? 

Mhz do not help ETH mining. They will help other core intensive algos like KawPow.

So if you want to mine ETH ETH or other mem intensive coins... Get the one with a decent cooler and low price.

Otherwise OC models might be a better option.

you need to check power at wall ....... like one needs for amd cards!

60 mhash at 120w is only by software readings...like a 5700 does 55 mhash at 70w by software

120w is not the whole story...so be careful with wattage gpu-z shows

5 x 3060 ti - Simplemining shows 690 Watt (>300MHs ETH). Out of the Wall it is 730 Watt.
Have got 5 Fans running in the Case. So simplemining is accurate.

AMD generally dont include the power from bus/riser.

Nvidia generally includes this.

So AMD will show less power in software than at the wall.
Nvidia will show closer to actual power just doesnt include the base system power.


The power from the wall is all that really matters.

My understanding from what I've ingested here, is that I will want to put Killawatt meters on each rig, and monitor actual wall readings.  I'm presently of course just working from theory and posted information about what cards do what.  At the moment, I'm leaning towards a 1 year plan to build 4 rigs.  So I'm crunching out spreadsheets to help me understand the math about whatever cards will end up in there. 

So you guys are saying that GPU Megahertz isn't critical.  Got it.  I would assume that a 3 fan model will consume more power than a 2 fan model, but I don't know what numbers are being used in all the things I'm reading - a 2 fan or a 3 fan model. It would seem that since we're talking about creating an array of multiple card rigs, that we might want the best cooling options possible, what are your guys' takes on that?  I see that the 3060 Ti falls into that category - 2 fan option or 3 fan option. But I'm not reading much to guide me one direction or another.  Thoughts?

And what would be a good, general estimate for power consumption for the motherboard? It's a blank in my spreadsheet that I don't know that I will be able to accurately express other than a general estimate. 

It seems, (again from the theoretical number crunching) that the 3060 Ti looks pretty awesome.  I recognize that they are either impossible to get, or marked way the heck up right now.  I'm hoping that by the time I'm ready to make the spend, that the situation is different.  I just read yesterday that NVidia got a massive contract to build video cards to meet demand, so maybe this will be a different story in the coming months. 

Do you think one 750W PSU could power three 3060 ti cards?

yes, could power even 4 if you make sure to undervolt it.

Did you try Conflux Network mining or other algos ?
I believe we can get more than ethash with 3060ti.

I played with octopus a bit on nicehash

https://www.nicehash.com/blog/post/octopus--new-algorithm-for-mining-conflux-cfx

Assuming you can find these cards at MSRP, seven 3060 ti cards could cost approximately the same as four 3080 cards. What would you choose the 3060’s or the 3080’s and why?

3080's if you require the density, but not everyone seems to be able to achieve the magical 100MH/s @240w and seem to settle around 90-95Mh.  Where as the 3060Ti's have no problem hitting 60MH/s @120w which seems to be the clear winner if solely mining Ethhash.

yeah and gddrx 6 gets too bloody hot too, 3060ti needs to come down in price. Where i live, shops are selling for $560 ~ $700. No way In hell, I will buy in those prices. I want to buy one to play with it.

Thanks for the input. I’m leaning towards the 3060 cards. I’ve got a rig with RX 580 4GB cards that I’m going to have to swap out soon. Seems like the smart decision would be replace with 3060’s. I would likely also have to upgrade PSUs as well if I went with the 3080 cards.

rx 580 = 130 watts, 3060ti = 130 watts.

I think the 120 W power is a result of using 50 % of TDP (which is 220 to 240 for most 3060 cards). For my gaming PC I think about buying a MSI GeForce RTX 3070 Suprim X 8GB GDDR6 which has 280 w TDP. So 50 % would be 140w. I think with 140w it gets the same hashrate....but when I make TDP of 40 or 45 % to reach 120 W, do you think I might get less mhash? So a 3060 with a higher TDP than 240 is no good choice for mining? could that be correct?

Then I would buy the normal NON-Supreme variant of the 3070....if I can get one. 3070 supreme is in stock today :(

I bought Asus dual oc 3070, and it's hashing 61Mhs with 52% TDP, + 1099 memory oc and it's stable
The power consumption on the wall is 135 exactly (Phoenix miner shows 114w)
If I lower to 51% or less (minimum 45% TDP) I lose hashrate, so 52% for me it's the sweet spot

3060 ti is better if you'll only mine and can buy with good price, but I choose 3070 to do some gaming and the price is only 10% more of 3060ti at the moment, and it's easy to find

that´s why I too wanted to buy 3070...but I struggle with the 240 and the 280 tdp variant.

Can someone explain this acronym - TDP?  I'm not following how that plays into the card specs.

Basically, I'm getting started early next month with a pre-built rig to cut my teeth on, but then I'm looking at building an array of rigs in the coming year.  as I plan to mine and hold for long term, the math I am doing based on posted MH/s and power consumption rates, has me looking at the "watts per MH" and "cost per MH".  I don't know if these are ideal metrics to track, but if they are, and if the 3060 Ti's become available within reasonably close proximity to their MSRP, then it appears to me the 3060 Ti's are good value for my purposes. I won't ever truly know first hand until I get my hand one one or two, I'm hoping to do that early next year too and drop them into the rig I'm buying and see for myself.  I know I do not have a good handle on the information I'm seeing here about tweaking the power consumption on the boards, but I do like what I'm seeing about underclocking them a little bit to keep the heat and power down, and extend their life.  It's clear to me that this is a healthy mix of art and science to get this to work efficiently.  Clearly there's a lot more to it then just dropping cards on a board and pushing a button.  I hope I am able to pick this all up quickly. 

Thermal Design Power - Ie how much power it is thermally designed to handle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_design_power

And realize for your second part..its hitting a moving target.  Every calculation you make is subject to change almost immediately. 

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification on that. I'll read that wiki an see if it helps clear that up for me.

As for the moving target - yes.  I understand this.  This is why I'm focused more on how much "coin" can be mined, rather that how much "profit" can be mined.  My intent is to mine at a level that I can cover the power bill out of pocket, and not need to sell coins to pay the utilities.  I recognized that mining "profitably" will go up and down quite a bit it seems, but since I'm not planning to mine for cash flow, I feel like i will be less worried about the day to day performance of the coins, but more interested in what they will look like in 20 years.  So my focus is on economy of scale and how I can maximize my efforts without spending a ton of money (adding infrastructure for power, etc...) It's the way I think through projects at the day job, where every new level of efficiency attained is critical to the project.  Now, once I start doing this for reals next month, I may have a completely different tune, and if that ends up being the case, I will be certain to share my findings and experiences here too to help others deciding to dive in or not. 

TDP is balls to wall pedal to the metal spec for your card.

MOST cards dies if run at tdp of 100% under a year.

also you hardly get any more hash maxing to 100%
 of tdp.

here is a test rig

Video link
https://youtu.be/aie0LlO8Q5w

this rig using a titanium psu pulls 282-285 watts

gpus are set to

1) 95 watts - Tdp is 120
2) 85 watts - Tdp is 120
3) 85 watts - Tdp is 120

that is 265 watts that is 360

setting closer to the tdp for these cards in particular does not get more hash.  So basically I don't do it.

Mining is a grind.

 Don't burn out the gear by setting to the tdp. =  "this is mostly always true"

Thanks Phil,

and these power settings are adjusted through some GUI for the cards, or through BIOS settings, or something similar?  This will be something I can learn to adjust and manage, correct? 

also, what I'm seeing here is that the mobo itself only draws about 20 watts, is that correct?  I was wondering how much the motherboards would add to the equation, seems to be that it's very small in comparison. 

is the 3080 woth it over the little 3060 ti?

It depends, 3080 average is around 92mhs, 3060ti average is 60mhs, 3080 240 watts, 3060ti 140 watts. 2 x 3080 = 3 x 3060ti.

it come all down about density i guess, if you want it betterto go with the 3080 which also cost more than 50%, otherwise for small setup the 3060 ti is better

Nvidia cards are pretty easy to manage and  tweak, you can use MSI Afterburner to do that
In 5 minutes you can adjust Nvidias, most are: reduce TDP to 60% or less, reduce Core Clock, set fans to 60% or 70% and push your memories to something like + 1000 or +1500mhz

AMDs are harder to tweak, but Nvidias you'll be able to, easy

To see about power consumption of your system, the only valid method is to have a Kill A Watt to measure power on the wall

Yes I have a Killawatt, have had it for years. Was excited to see that I "already have a piece of mining gear" LOL.  I will be using them on the rigs I build for sure.

so I'm still not sure if it's a big deal to go with a 3 fan model over a 2 fan.  I think i asked this question, but I don't see that I got a solid response.  In my mind, I'm thinking 3 fans = more electricity consumption, but better cooling, longer life of the board.  Or is all of that mitigated by backing off the gas pedal so to speak like you guys are saying - not running the GPUs at full speed...?

Hey, better to create a new thread for you and you can ask anything you want, because it's becoming off-topic of this thread about 3060tis, ok?

About 3 or 2 fans, you can watch some reviews on youtube and foruns, or ask here about the model you want, but usually 3 fans will be better than 2, and the power consumption of 1 more fan is extremely low, nothing to worry about
There are brands that have better colling performance in general

Sure, I can make a new thread if needed.  My questions are specifically about the 3060Ti, as that is the board I am focusing all my studying on right now.  But if talking about building a rig with these cards is off topic, I'm find to make a new one.  I just wanted to clarify that when I'm asking these questions, they are specific to the board in question.   

3 fans will always have a larger heatsink because it uses more space, so reason 3 fans are better = larger heatsink, however need to check the heatsink weight, example, the first design of sapphire rx 580 had a somewhat average heatsink, while it was good, summer time had reports it sucked, third design came with a heavy heatsink, even in the sahara desert that thing worked without a problem hehe, 2 fans, it did not need a third fan. Yeah a third fan uses more electricity, 6 watts average, 12v 0.5 amperes.

the cpu if it is a t variant is lowest power of the cpus.

intel g3900t

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/90738/intel-celeron-processor-g3900t-2m-cache-2-60-ghz.html
tdp is 35watts

intel g3900
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/celeron/g3900.html
has a tdp of 51 watts

intel g4400t tdp of 35 watts
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/90614/intel-pentium-processor-g4400t-3m-cache-2-90-ghz.html

intel 4900t tdp of 35 watts
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/129952/intel-celeron-g4900t-processor-2m-cache-2-90-ghz.html


so using a t version saves watts ,drawback is if you want to run a huge rig say 8 3060ti's

you may need a better cpu.

Also bronze, silver, gold platinum, titanium psu.,

at a 500 watt build drawing a constant 500 watts.

bronze 625 at the kwatt

titanium 525 at the kwatt

also mobo efficiency

also the card itself and I am back to topic I have a 3 fan aorus 3060ti smos says I do

60.84 mh at 119 watts the 3060ti aorus
94.29 mh at 219 watts the 3080 evga

that adds to 318 watts for gpu

it  estimates my total consumption is 378 watts

I have an FSP 1200 watt platinum
I have a intel g4400t

I use a stick of samung ram with this board

https://www.amazon.com/ONDA-B250BTC-D8P-Mining-Motherboard-LGA1151/dp/B0791Z44YX

now I run on the kwatt meter at 397-401 watts. i also know this meter has always been 5% hot. I have other kwatt meters that real less.

for fun I will run this 2 card rig with just the 3080 and see how much we drop.

So on the reboot.
I read 219 for the gpu via smos
I read 259 for the rig   via smos
I read 269 for the rig via kwatt

so I dropped 378 to 259 = 119 watts via smos reading
I dropped 398 to 269 = 129 watts via kwatt reading

since the meter on the house counts I would use 129 watts for 60.84 for my card. hoping that the hot meter is maybe 5 or 6 watts higher then my house meter.

so the house meter is charging me maybe 123 to 130 watts for the card. it is hard to know how accurate the house meter really is compared to the kwatt meter.  For me to do it correctly I need to have my wife out of the house for at least 4 days and only run 1 circuit in the whole house to test properly.  Which is not going to happen.

Anyone have an EVGA 3060 Ti XC Gaming card? I have an opportunity to purchase a few of these at close to MSRP. I’m curious what kind of experience people have had mining ETH (or other coins) with this card.

Buy them. If you do not want them I will take at least one of them maybe 2 of them.

I would pay a small  markup and shipping .

All assuming you are usa based.

I will scoop them up. I would like to help you out Phil but I am in Canada.

 ;D

I'm getting my EVGA 3 fans in BC , Canada too . Can fill up 2 rigs
3 Fans run 8c cooler , but I'm not sure about the EVGA 2 fans .

Hey Phil , let me know if you want my PM you about 50 x 3070 deal in ON , Canada

Gigabyte Eagle do 61Mh. mem +1000,  tdp 62, gpu +200

Nvidia founders edition: 60% Power Limit, -300 Core, +1270 Mem, 61.4 mh/s

457.51 driver.

edit: 119W draw

May I ask what software is it ? newly updated NBminer ?

currently t-rex 19.4 cuda 11

Those are good numbers

their really good

expect people to be snagging these for ETH for the foreseeable future

dammit, supposed to be on holidays, we just cant keep off these forums eh? haha
 

Are you getting any rejected shares?  I was using T-Rex and it seemed to report a higher hash rate then phoenix but poolside phoenix was about 10% better.

I M ALSO SEARCHING NEWS ABOUT IT ,PLEASE MENTION IF ANYONE HAV SOME NEWS ?

10% difference, sounds like you haven't given it enough time for a fair comparison

So eth has past 730.  getting cards is going to be really hard to do.

Target for the next 3 days till 1st January is $850 ~ $1000. It has a great probability to get there.

Finally got the rig to work, it wasnt the drivers or anything, seems my hx1200 is dying, 2x 3060ti and a 5700xt modded hashing happily, nvidia really did an amazing job with their new card lineup
https://i.imgur.com/DHdvSqn.jpg (i tried to make the pic to show on the forum but it seems im a bit too dumb... so only a link)

see if this worked.

you were a newbie it does not post for newbies.

I gave you a merit keep posting you will become a jr member and can show a photo

Thank you

you are welcome. I try to reward people that follow up on a thread.

So - first time posting here.
I bought 4 RTX 3060 TIs - the cheapest ones that I could find - 3 PNYs Uprising and 1 PNY Gaming Revel.
I have been fiddling with them for a while now (close to two weeks) but I still haven't found their sweet spots.
What I did find is that they need a "ramp-up" sequence to work. This means that I need to start slow (a +900 on memory) and grow every 3 minutes or so with 100 until it gets to +1200.
The hash rate is around 60-61-62-63 MH/s - depends a bit on the tweaks.

https://imgur.com/KDyZZzz
https://imgur.com/MJQicZB

For the ramp-up, I created 5 profiles in MSI AB, each one increasing the VRAM by 100 MHz.
Then I created a batch file that sets the first profile, then starts the miner as a separate thread, waits 180 seconds and it sets the second profile, waits 180 seconds and it sets the third profile and so on.

Yes - there are some bad shares - but they are acceptable from my perspective (1.5% over 22 hours and still haven't found the right spot for the GPUs).

1. Connect the monitor to the Mainboard to avoid work on the Monitor GPU. This causes instability
2. A stable setup should be able to start with the targeted settings.
3. Edit custom curve with the curve editor.

Make a account at simplemining and give it a try there. This helps a lot!!!
And its free for a few days when i remember well.

After 22.000 Shares i have around 300 rejected on the GPU with RAM+ 2400. Went back to +2200.
So try max RAM 7900.

Yeah my aorus likes ram around 7870. when I top 7900 it errors.

Damn you are lucky. In France there is not a single card available :-/
I will be replacing my 1070ti by 3060ti because of the power consumption.
At the current price i can replace my 20 cards splitted in 3 rigs by 10 cards splitted in two rigs and save 800 watts but for that I would need first to be able to buy those damn cards !!!

Your old cards are doing okay mine them till they drop!!  Or sell them and wait for a crash.  Take a vacation from mining.

I am running  about 67 cards.. only 3x 3080's and 1x 3060ti. they are super hard to find anywhere .

Thanks for the advice.
For #1 - unfortunately, there is no integrated GPU on the motherboard - so I can't do that.
I did settle for less RAM overclock (I stopped at +1200 MHz(8200 MHz)) and for the past 11 hours I have 2 invalid shares (out of 2500).
Now... About the 3rd tip... It proves to be a pain to figure out. At least MSI AB is a pain to work with - I just settled to set all the cards at 65% power and I get an average hash speed of 62 MH/s on each of them.
In a week or so, when I will get the two new cards, I will try the SimpleMining OS as well.

https://i.imgur.com/ldWrhO7.png

12 pcs Zotac Twin Edge RTX 300Ti 8GB
730.8 MH/s - 1674W at the wall.

https://i.imgur.com/81wlNQR.jpg

6x Palit RTX 3060 Ti 8GB

+1400 on memory

I also have a script that's watching incorrect shares so it reboots the rig when it gets to 50 incorrect shares so I don't have problems with DAG epoch switching

@TheSkyTurk

Well done!

yeah, I guess we can say a 3060 ti is likewise what a rx 470 was in 2017. It will hold resale value quite well. The 3070 as I predicted was a failure, 100 usd for the same hashrate on eth is just a no go, miners need to save money, eth mining is soon gone and if roi is more than 360 days then gameover, not worth the hassle. The 3060 ti is 24% faster than rx 5700 and yet the same price, so in theory will hold at least 24% more resale value for gamers.

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well done.. first of all because you found 12 3060ti!

it is important to get no invalid shares.
when you restart the miner, you lose time to creation of the dag file.
find the sweet spots for your gpus. the highest hashrate is not important.

It reboots the rig, for that + DAG creation and everything I'm loosing about 2 minutes max so that's not a big deal at all for ~18MH/s more for a whole rig compared to +1000 on memory when there is no invalid shares
Btw, I have 3 rigs with 3060 Ti, total od 18 cards (15 Palit + 3 Gainward) so that's 54MH/s more and it's a "free RX5700" :)

I wonder what he paid?

I would have loved to graben ten of them at a good price.

But I really would have loved to get 10 3080's at a good price.

I am thinking about starting to camp out at Microcenter just to get a few cards to replace the cards I am selling. Wondering how long this run will be sustained.

I paid 635 USD for each one. Total 7620 USD + 19 USD shipping. (Taxes is so high in my country.)
But it s not possible now. 825 USD is the new price. RTX 3070 is 860 USD now.
There is no so much difference in price. Power consumption and the hashrate is the same.

I wanted to replace one 1070 with a 3060ti (gaming/mining on TV) since launch.  Never got one.  Have to go in store and backorder in person and wait until one comes up.  Insane.

At the moment All I could get was 2 backordered 5700xts but at 407 and 415.


 I am not complaining

$400 is a good price. Haven't seem much of anything readily available of any cards 6GB and up. Still we try to have something besides backorders.

There are holes in the backplate of 3060ti GPUs.
The hot air goes to the next GPU in the 12 pcs GPU rig.
Did anyone try to block the holes in the back plate ?

may over heat the card. 

you could try this

this pulls air up away from  mobo

https://i.imgur.com/BkgpOrE.jpg

https://www.kosovarhavalandirma.com/media/image/mobil/davlumbaz.jpg
https://www.kosovarhavalandirma.com/media/image/mobil/davlumbaz.jpg

I m thinkg about buying something like this for 12 GPU. And I will put a fan on it.

Yeah could it work  you will need a powerful fan

maybe 2 hoods and 2 fans six gpus each.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Comair-Rotron-Caravel-Fan-Model-CLE3L2-P-N-020190-8-1-2-Diameter-230Vac-525CFM/303842208818?

these are very good quality fans. 525 cfm

 I did not look for a good price but I have used the 115volt and the 230 volt versions they are beasts.

not really that loud.

I have air conditioner system for my rigs. I m looking for an effective cooling options to get the best benefits of the AC.
There is no problem for the time being. But the holes of the backplates will be a problem in summer time.
AC system works different in winter and summer times.

https://i.imgur.com/fZDqKJs.jpg

I have hundred of this 8cm fan. I use them for broken gpu fans as replacement.
2,5W DC and its air blowing is really good for the gpus.
I can use 2 fans for the blowing system. I hope it will be enough.
My mining facilities are near homes. So i cannot use high loud.
I will put the blowing system only on top. The rest of the rigs are fully open.

https://i.imgur.com/B2GT1dm.jpg

By the way, There are 4 rigs in 15m2 area.
24000BTU AC system. The GPUs are RX5700 XT and 3060Ti

Anyone here using Galax 3060ti?

This model: https://www.galax.com/en/graphics-card/30-series/3060ti-series/geforce-rtx-3060ti-ex-b.html

https://i.ibb.co/xFXd7Zw/placa-de-video-galax-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-ex-8gb-1-click-oc-gddr6-256-bit-36isl6md1wgg-110664.png (https://ibb.co/nP6tLp4)

This is the only model available, with 3 years warranty and it's perfect to fit my second rig, but I can't find he exact hashrate and wattage, is it the same as another brands? 60mhs - 140w?

If you can actually get one at MSRP I say buy now and think later.  I doubt it's variance is big enough to justify missing out because you hesitated.

No MSRP  :D
But I bought and already installed here, running for 3 days

These are the settings:

TDP 52%
Core Clock - 502
Memory Clock  + 1169

61Mhs, stable and no reject shares

Consuming exactly 130w at the wall, software shows 114w
Running cool, less than 55ºC with 60% fan speed, another cards I have to use 70% to keep under 60ºC

Best efficient card I have in my rig

Nice congrats!  Don't see those cards here in the US much.  They have some nice looking ones though

I have a 1050ti from them it mined for years and still works.

I can not find them 3060ti on their website.

https://www.galax.com/en/graphics-card/30-series/3060ti-series.html

But their store seems to show nothing available except 20XX series.

https://galaxstore.net/Graphics-Cards_c_1.html

Dang gamers buying up all the gpu's  ;D ;D ;D

MSI Ventus 2X OC
  
-502 core
+1000 memory (any higher and I get rejects or bad shares)
Power limit 62%
59.5 MH/s,   T:54deg F:48%,  P:123W,  2482/2482 R:0%    with T-Rex v0.19.9.

I ordered 2 more on the 18th of Dec last year.  I have gotten mails from the vendor about postponed delivery several times.  The latest mail said scheduled arrival date is 16th of Feb.
I could buy one from the scalpers at a 20% markup in price, but i wont.  

@philipma1957
I remember you say the highest memory value is 2800 for 3060ti in HiveOS.

62,70 MH/s
Core: -502
Memory: 2800
PL: 125
(GPU CLOCK:  930 MHz, MEM CLOCK: 8200 MHz)

63.47 MH/s
Core: -502
Memory: 3000
PL: 125
(GPU CLOCK:  840 MHz, MEM CLOCK: 8300 MHz)

There is no memory error or any invalid shares for 6 hours.
Should I try higher memory value ?

The anothet importan thing is i cannot set fixed core clock even if i set -502 core clock.
The core clock is different whenever i check.

I don’t have hiveos so I dont know the clocks.

most likely it was a layered multiple quote and you thought it was me.

if you get 63 mh at 125 watts those numbers are really good.

i do not recall anyone getting over 62+ so 63 may be the best numbers i have read.

Look, they wrote PL: 125, as far as I know we can't reach Power Limit 125, maximum here is 107%

If he want to say 125w of power consumption, doing more than 63.Mhs, I think we have a winner here

TheSkyTurk, can you clarify your settings with a picture? which brand is your card?
Best here with my 3060ti is 61Mhs, I can do more clock on memory but with a lot of reject shares

eWga 3060ti = 125W = 63,47 MH/s
PNY 3060ti = 133W = 63,30 MH/s
Asus 3060ti = 132W = 63,52 MH/s

Still testing them. No problem so far.
No any invalid shares. No hashrate changes. +-0,02 is acceptable for me.

rtx 3060 will release next month at 279$ 6gb 192bit do you guys think will achieve 45mhs

or maybe hit 50mhs lol.... just hoping rtx3060 is best for price/performance and surely gamer will grab this

so a week after release there is a time for testing and buy some of them, before they sold out

If it will have samsung 16gbps memory it will be the strong eth card ))

3070ti 256Bit 60MHs
3060ti 256Bit 60MHs
3060   192Bit 20%less -->48MHs--> faster RAM might be --> 50MHs

We will see...

https://www.profesionalreview.com/2021/01/26/rtx-3060-portatiles/

49Mhs with the 3060 mobile.... Maybe the desktop can get 55Mhs

Usually mobile versions of 3XXX are overly power limited

RTX 3060 Ti has memory bandwidth 448 GB/s while RTX 3060 will have 360 GB/s, for a 25% decrease.

I'm getting 64 MH/s on my 3060 Ti, and for 3060 we can expect a 25% decrease, to 48 MH/s. So yes you're right, it will have between 45 and 50 MH/s. I personally don't think it will be a good card for mining.

are your mem temps lower than the 3080/90 series? 

Yes. No problems.
The Zotac Twin Edge has got only 1 x PCIE 8 connector.
So good option for power supplies with only 4 or 6 PCIE.
Temps are a bit high on the zotac but it works...