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Title: i think i lost my bitcoin backup not working
Post by: benben66666 on December 04, 2020, 09:55:21 AM
hi

long ago 2008 (i mean2018) i had bitcoin core on my asus laptop i open put bitcoin there and do some trading with binance website and put it back i had backup wallet keep ...

now i see bit coin go up i download again bitcoin core on my new asus laptop and when i finnish download it i see 0bitcoin and only 3 transaction in january but nothing in febuary no trasaction show and no money there but i did send money in febuary back ... is it possible that i open another account without knowing it ...?
my problem is that on my another laptop i keep only the back up and i delete the bitcoin core and i try to find the old wallet.dat in user / appdata / roaming ... if maybe is not same my another but there is no were to be found i got new one blank ...

is my back up is correct and there is a bug ? or did i create another account without knowing it when i encrypted my wallet password ...

can i anyway find a way to get some file on my old laptop to know my account or with the adrress i transfer back the money from binance website i can get my account back?

i not sure what to do ...



Title: Re: i think i lost my bitcoin backup not working
Post by: ranochigo on December 04, 2020, 10:07:39 AM
long ago 2008 i had bitcoin core on my asus laptop i open put bitcoin there and do some trading with binance website and put it back i had backup wallet keep ...
Genesis block was in 2009. Binance was definitely not founded then either.
now i see bit coin go up i download again bitcoin core on my new asus laptop and when i finnish download it i see 0bitcoin and only 3 transaction in january but nothing in febuary no trasaction show and no money there but i did send money in febuary back ... is it possible that i open another account without knowing it ...?
my problem is that on my another laptop i keep only the back up and i delete the bitcoin core and i try to find the old wallet.dat in user / appdata / roaming ... if maybe is not same my another but there is no were to be found i got new one blank ...

is my back up is correct and there is a bug ? or did i create another account without knowing it when i encrypted my wallet password ...

can i anyway find a way to get some file on my old laptop to know my account or with the adrress i transfer back the money from binance website i can get my account back?

i not sure what to do ...
When was the last time and the version that you've used your client? In the older version, a backup has to be made for every 100 transactions. If you have transferred your coins out of binance, there's nothing that you can do if you don't find the relevant wallet backup.


Title: Re: i think i lost my bitcoin backup not working
Post by: benben66666 on December 04, 2020, 10:20:07 AM
my bad i mean 2018 hehheeh


Title: Re: i think i lost my bitcoin backup not working
Post by: ranochigo on December 04, 2020, 10:31:09 AM
my bad i mean 2018 hehheeh

Did you send the coins to an address after you encrypted your wallet? If you did, the default behavior is for the wallet to dump the keys created prior to the encryption and the HD seed gets refreshed. You will need to save a copy of the wallet.dat after the encryption. Could you try to find it?


Title: Re: i think i lost my bitcoin backup not working
Post by: benben66666 on December 04, 2020, 10:35:43 AM
yes i think i send bitcoin after my wallet was encrypted but i had my backup keep before ...


Title: Re: i think i lost my bitcoin backup not working
Post by: NotATether on December 04, 2020, 10:42:22 AM
Once you get the backup wallet, get the transaction ID or at least the receiving address of the Binance withdrawal. Maybe you can go to Binance's withdrawals page and look for an entry in February 2018. If you get the transaction ID then from that you can also get your receiving address provided that you remember the amount sent.

At any rate once you have the receiving address, go to your wallet and click File > Receiving Addresses, and check if your address is listed in your wallet.

If it isn't listed, then you sent bitcoin to somebody else's address and it's lost.


Title: Re: i think i lost my bitcoin backup not working
Post by: chichidori on December 04, 2020, 10:46:13 AM
long ago 2008 i had bitcoin core on my asus laptop i open put bitcoin there and do some trading with binance website and put it back i had backup wallet keep ...
Genesis block was in 2009. Binance was definitely not founded then either.
now i see bit coin go up i download again bitcoin core on my new asus laptop and when i finnish download it i see 0bitcoin and only 3 transaction in january but nothing in febuary no trasaction show and no money there but i did send money in febuary back ... is it possible that i open another account without knowing it ...?
my problem is that on my another laptop i keep only the back up and i delete the bitcoin core and i try to find the old wallet.dat in user / appdata / roaming ... if maybe is not same my another but there is no were to be found i got new one blank ...

is my back up is correct and there is a bug ? or did i create another account without knowing it when i encrypted my wallet password ...

can i anyway find a way to get some file on my old laptop to know my account or with the adrress i transfer back the money from binance website i can get my account back?

i not sure what to do ...
When was the last time and the version that you've used your client? In the older version, a backup has to be made for every 100 transactions. If you have transferred your coins out of binance, there's nothing that you can do if you don't find the relevant wallet backup.
If he have the private key written somewhere else or remember the wallet he use to withdraw the coin he can easily check the balance if its there on any bitcoin explorer if its not then its a wrong address but you should check your old laptop if you have any other backup.


Title: Re: i think i lost my bitcoin backup not working
Post by: benben66666 on December 04, 2020, 10:51:04 AM
lol if i had access to my wallet.dat now  i wont be posting this now i have access to the one not encrypted but i do know the passworld i put for the encrypt one but not sure were i can find the wallet or key i still got the computer working fine ... and  yes i look in binance address and is not on my wallet i still got my old computer but no idea if i can retrieve my wallet from there ...


Title: Re: i think i lost my bitcoin backup not working
Post by: benben66666 on December 04, 2020, 11:00:50 AM
at current bitcoin price i think i got like 0.4... some thing i would be sad losing like 8000usd in my wallet ... cause i to stupid not knowing backup wallet not work after encrypt ... hehehe


Title: Re: i think i lost my bitcoin backup not working
Post by: HCP on December 07, 2020, 11:39:32 PM
lol if i had access to my wallet.dat now  i wont be posting this now i have access to the one not encrypted but i do know the passworld i put for the encrypt one but not sure were i can find the wallet or key i still got the computer working fine ... and  yes i look in binance address and is not on my wallet i still got my old computer but no idea if i can retrieve my wallet from there ...
Sadly, if you didn't take a "new" backup after you encrypted your wallet, then chances are your coins are lost :-\

There is even a warning after you encrypt a wallet that was not previously encrypted:
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/11/15/zkO4Z.png


NOTE: simply changing the passphrase does NOT render old backups obsolete... it's only when you encrypt a previously unencrypted wallet file.