Title: Mysterious transaction spotted in blockchain!
Post by: ineededausername on November 26, 2011, 07:58:09 PM
http://blockexplorer.com/tx/28ccf29cfcc9f82d42793db770e7c7894d61ccf3d18299f34bda2e54415da287
O.o
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Post by: kokjo on November 26, 2011, 08:00:16 PM
just a fun way to use bitcoins...
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Post by: matonis on November 26, 2011, 08:02:28 PM
seems like a waste of coinage.... or bandwidth
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Post by: cbeast on November 26, 2011, 08:05:25 PM
monkeys with typewriters
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Post by: BurtW on November 27, 2011, 12:32:23 AM
In a thread in the economics forum we were discussing if there might be a way to calculate and/or estimate how many coins have been lost and destroyed. These coins are now destroyed and others are "obviously" destroyed for example everything sent to 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE
I wonder if there would be a way to automate the discovery of these dead end addresses and calculate the sum of all coins that have been sent to bitcoin purgatory. I say purgatory because there is a finite but very small chance they may someday be recovered.
This is important from an economics point of view because when you calculate the monetary base of the system it is equal to the BTC produced to date minus the BTC lost (lost private keys) minus BTC destroyed on purpose (like these coins were). Currently, for Bitcoins the money supply is for all practical purposes equal to this monetary base and the money supply is used to estimate inflation, etc.
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Post by: Matthew N. Wright on November 27, 2011, 12:38:45 AM
Speaking of mysterious transactions in the blockchain...
http://blockexplorer.com/address/1BitTaLkTVChristmasSpeciaLXXRix9Ea
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Post by: BurtW on November 27, 2011, 12:50:37 AM
Wonder why they destroyed 0.005 BTC in 5 different transactions. They could have gotten this dead end address into the block chain with only one transaction. Why 5 from the same source? Interesting ???
At least the transaction from the OP made some sense since they wanted to insert several different lines from the book.
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Post by: Matthew N. Wright on November 27, 2011, 12:51:32 AM
Wonder why they destroyed 0.005 BTC in 5 different transactions. They could have gotten this dead end address into the block chain with only one transaction. Why 5 from the same source? Interesting ???
At least the transaction from the OP made some sense since they wanted to insert several different lines from the book.
Probably just some sort of spam. Fucking spammers. Spamming the blockchain. Who could they be. I don't know about you but I'm intrigued.
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Post by: BurtW on November 27, 2011, 12:57:52 AM
I seem to recall you had some trouble getting the domain from Atlas. Did you ever get it?
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Post by: Atheros on November 27, 2011, 01:02:48 AM
These transactions can not be pruned from the blockchain. This makes me uncomfortable. :-[
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Post by: Matthew N. Wright on November 27, 2011, 01:07:09 AM
I seem to recall you had some trouble getting the domain from Atlas. Did you ever get it?
Actually, Mark Karpes of KalyHost/MtGox is the one I'm waiting on now. As far as Atlas is concerned, the domain is mine-- but we need Mark to reset the password to this account AND change the email address. Still waiting. (KalyHost is the absolute worst customer service most difficult host to get a hold of in the world, and why Atlas ever used them is beyond me).
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Post by: runeks on November 27, 2011, 01:59:46 AM
I wonder if there would be a way to automate the discovery of these dead end addresses and calculate the sum of all coins that have been sent to bitcoin purgatory. I say purgatory because there is a finite but very small chance they may someday be recovered.
This is important from an economics point of view because when you calculate the monetary base of the system it is equal to the BTC produced to date minus the BTC lost (lost private keys) minus BTC destroyed on purpose (like these coins were). Currently, for Bitcoins the money supply is for all practical purposes equal to this monetary base and the money supply is used to estimate inflation, etc.
It would certainly be interesting to find out! But basically, there is no way to tell if anyone has knowledge of a private key associated with a Bitcoin address. And there shouldn't be, as that's exactly where the anonymity of Bitcoin is derived from. That's the verdict as far as I can tell.
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Post by: BurtW on November 27, 2011, 02:14:55 AM
Yes BUT, for all of the addresses: 1But1DontWantToGoAmongMadxxxzDmyW6 1Peop1eA1iceRemarkedxxxxxxxxxuLyKu 12ohYouCantHe1pThatxxxxxxxxxzCjyMs 19SaidTheCatWereA11MadHerexxyTvEir 191mMadYoureMadxxxxxxxxxxxxxvwA4Up 1HowDoYouKnow1mMadSaidA1icexxZA4Nr 12YouMustBeSaidTheCatxxxxxxxz2tFa2 12orYouWou1dntHaveComeHerexxvtHbqq 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE 1BitTaLkTVChristmasSpeciaLXXRix9Ea
We can say with almost 100% certainty that no private key is currently known and no private key will ever be known. So we can say with almost 100% certainty that BTC send to any of these addresses have been destroyed. Maybe a simple search through the block chain for recognizable words or phrases of a certain length?
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Post by: ElectricMucus on November 27, 2011, 02:47:59 AM
That all depends on the computing power used to "find" those addresses. No way that length would be possible today.
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Post by: runeks on November 27, 2011, 02:51:32 AM
Yes BUT, for all of the addresses: 1But1DontWantToGoAmongMadxxxzDmyW6 1Peop1eA1iceRemarkedxxxxxxxxxuLyKu 12ohYouCantHe1pThatxxxxxxxxxzCjyMs 19SaidTheCatWereA11MadHerexxyTvEir 191mMadYoureMadxxxxxxxxxxxxxvwA4Up 1HowDoYouKnow1mMadSaidA1icexxZA4Nr 12YouMustBeSaidTheCatxxxxxxxz2tFa2 12orYouWou1dntHaveComeHerexxvtHbqq 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE 1BitTaLkTVChristmasSpeciaLXXRix9Ea
We can say with almost 100% certainty that no private key is currently known and no private key will ever be known. So we can say with almost 100% certainty that BTC send to any of these addresses have been destroyed. Maybe a simple search through the block chain for recognizable words or phrases of a certain length? You are right about that. But as far as I can tell, all the addresses found must be checked by a human, to assess whether it is probable that it could be a legitimate address created randomly. Also, I think these people purposefully sending Bitcoins to invalid addresses would be only a minute part of the total number of Bitcoins lost. So in any case all we would be able to say is that "a minimum of x Bitcoins are probably lost". Which is kind of an unexciting statement :).
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Post by: BurtW on November 27, 2011, 03:02:07 AM
Also, I think these people purposefully sending Bitcoins to invalid addresses would be only a minute part of the total number of Bitcoins lost. So in any case all we would be able to say is that "a minimum of x Bitcoins are probably lost". Which is kind of an unexciting statement :).
I agree.
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Post by: mcdett on November 27, 2011, 04:33:39 AM
You are right about that. But as far as I can tell, all the addresses found must be checked by a human, to assess whether it is probable that it could be a legitimate address created randomly.
nah dude. there are a lot of nice word number combo algorithms for producing password dictionary rainbow tables. the task of looking for addresses containing english/russian/etc words would be fairly easy to catch. anyone know of some solid code to dump the block chain into well formatted xml or csv? <-- if this can be had the task of finding interesting looking public keys easy.
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Post by: runeks on November 28, 2011, 01:13:50 AM
^ How do you know that a word hasn't been created randomly in an address and so, that someone - probably - has the private key that can redeem the output of that transaction? Thus making the Bitcoins not lost? If you want to see all the ASCII in the blockchain, just issue the following command in Linux: strings -20 .bitcoin/blk0001.dat Output is this: EThe Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks z+o>z+o>z+o>z+o>z+o> z+o>z+o>z+o>z+o>z+o> z+o>z+o>z+o>z+o>z+o> z+o>z+o>z+o>z+o>z+o> z+o>z+o>z+o>z+o>z+o> z+o>z+o>z+o>z+o>z+o> =ybegin line=128 siz e=8776 name=bitcoin. ***2*.+D*/***+***h+E */***+***p+R*-***+*, **+[*,***;***x****** 0010/211133246>76556 C<=}9>GDIHGDFFJNXQJL VMFFRaSVZ[^^^IQcgb\f KFK\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ +/++++++********+,-. DPQRST_`abcdmnopqrst *>{o*>{o*>{o*>{o*>{o ---BEGIN TRIBUTE--- #./BitLen ::::::::::::::::::: :::::::.::.::.:.::: :.: :.' 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Home again, home again, jiggidy-jig! Gooood Evening, J.F! dictates that a five dollar bitcoin is ok The 20 character sentences are probably addresses, while the longer ones are coinbase parameters in coin generation transactions, I think. Of course this doesn't give us the actual addresses, as these are base58. But this is another way of losing coins.
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