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Are new projects supposed to be well successful today to pay bounty hunters their promised payment? If they raise huge amount of money paying bounty hunters won't be a big problem, am I right ?

Humans like yourself are behind every single crypto projects you see, humans have different habits, they can decide to be greedy even if they have everything in the world, a project that raised good amount of money through ICO or other fundraising can still decide not to pay bounty hunters, believe me I've seen too many

Usually the project maker will limit the participants, so this will certainly minimize losses from the provision of funds that will be distributed to bounty hunters who have met the requirements according to the desired criteria.

Of course they are unsuccessful what do you expect your effort will go into? Actually there are good project that become unsuccessful due to so many scam projects and that broke the investors trust not to give their money easily or others had already learn their lesson in investing. I myself had been scam too in a project after I was getting FOMO by the scammers in their telegram channel. After all it was a regret in my part for trusting them but I had already move and forget that happen.

Sometimes I think project should make bounty campaign strategic and reward it according, like you said, a moderate budget can deal with the outcome of ICO. More also is the form of distribution, staggered distribution in 3-6month can manage the price of the token. Requesting higher number of social media followers and higher rank member that can carry obvious signature

The amount that raised on their crowdsale will not be determined how successful they to pay the hunters. I can mention you some projects that raised small amount of money like hacked ai but this project is still paying the hunters with decent amount of tokens that worth a few hundred dollars for any participants.
The problem is the team itself about how the team can maintain its token to get the value from the market and speculators.

Assuming you got paid tokens of an unsuccessful project which automatically turns worthless what will you do wit it? you can't trade it except keep it as souvenir  :D
it is a waste of time to have junks in your wallet and even the team of such project already knows it is not worth given such tokens out, the reason why people support of campaign for project is to be able to sell at the end of it all not to keep as a souvenir.

There are few projects that failed to meet their fund target but still keep their promise to bounty hunters, the last one was youengine, I'm surprised how reliable this team are even when they failed to raise enough money for their project they still paid every penny owed, many new projects will avoid to pay once they failed to reach hardcap

Right unless they promised a shit tons of money for bounty campaign which usually happened to attract more participants to join then later on, they will delay the release of funds or reduce payment after there ICO was over. They have no written contract to guarantee that they will bounty hunters in the end. That is the danger of joining bounty campaign. The team can easily deny payment without any risk of facing legal charges from there side since they are using other people to manager it.

Some bounty rewards are too unrealistic in today's crypto daze, if a bounty promised millions of dollars to bounty hunters do not bother to promote such project because they are spreading false promises that they will never be able to keep, it's why some promote only projects that are listed and trading

You are right, but the question is - do these projects really raise such huge amounts? Funny to read how project plans to raise millions and allocated few thousands on bounty. I think most projects simply lie how much they raised to attract more investors. Imho, they barely raise hundred thousand dollars. Lets calculate how much they would spend on distribution fees. Usually bounty campaign consist of twitter, facebook, signature, video, article campaigns. Lets take average numbers of participants, 500 twitter, 500 facebook, 30 signature, 50 video, 100 articles. That is roughly 1100-1200 transactions to be made to distribute each campaigns reward. With current Ethereum fees, probably that is $1,500 for a whole distribution. When new projects rise $20-50k, spending $1,500 on hunters + paying the manager + giving tokens that might something...Well...no wander they try to cut these "bounty expenses".

It's very hard for new projects to raise hardcap this days friend, 2017 was a good year for investors and bounty hunters because almost every new ICO projects became successful, even the scam projects too, this time it's very hard for new projects to raise money that's why most bounties ends in disparity

I saw other projects such as Base protocol which is a DeFi project, they rushed to close the bounty and to pay the bounty hunters just because they were successful. Some projects scam and never pay their bounty hunters just because they have no funds. Others just want to sell and gather funds and get rid of the bounty hunters when they succeed. Different opinions but these projects ain't respecting the Bounty process and the hunters.

Bounty hunters aren't just looking for gifts. very good if I join the project and succeed,, Because mission bounty hunters is to help the project to be successful. When the project was successful they rewarded bounty hunters with the promised allocation.
When the project failed do you still expect something from there?

It supposedly being paid. Bounty hunters are part of the marketing and the developing team needs to pay them as part of their expenses.

Even the project unsuccessfully raised the amount that they are trying to collect, if they are for real then paying the hunters should not be

a problem, allocated funds should be there for a much better long term relationship within the bounty hunters.

that depends on the bounty manager, the bounty manager will become a party who will be always suggestion whether the campaign must be limited or not to the developers. If you are asking the developers about this and I'm sure if they will not try to put the limit as what they wanna get the massive exposure to promote their ico and then they can raise a lot of money.

not only that, this year we can see many scam projects scattered, one of which is currently indicated here are many new things that were discovered https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0https://bitcointalk. org / index. php? board = 83.0

Asked that worries continue to be felt, the bounty hunters consume time, energy and thought. if in the end the project that follows goes into a black abyss. Meanwhile, managers do not know the ins and outs, they only accept the mandate, but the risk to be borne is enormous.

Years back gowithmi failed to raise hardcap successfully and they lower the bounty allocation instead of not paying their promoters a penny, isn't this way better than not paying anything at all? Some projects have cruel team members, just pray you don't work for such people, another good project is Youengine (YOUC), the team kept their promise even when they failed to raise enough money, this project failed to raise softcap, imagine that, they have every reason to deny bounty hunters payment

There are many projects that fail to pay bounty hunters, because of the unsuccessfulness of their projects. However, most of these projects exploit bounty hunters by using their services to promote their scam projects. Projects that are real but not successful and don't pay off the bounty hunters don't hurt them so much, they are part of the failed project, but if behind the unsuccessfulness there is an element of scam then there should be a punishment for them.

It still depend on the developer, although they raise a lot of money and success to launch the project they still have a chance to postponed or even abandoned the bounty hunter. There are some cases about it and the coin's project now has a high price in the market, the developer project and bounty manager just accuse each other so as to confuse the bounty hunter who participated in the project. This has pointed out, a legit/good project does not guarantee you will get the reward that has become your right. That's why you have to spend more effort to analyze a project that you are going to promote, look from various angles, don't just look at the potential of the project itself.

In order to avoid problems like that, many bounty hunters choose bounty campaigns that make payments via escrow because with escrow we can feel calm about our payments at the end of the campaign and well-known managers are currently using such a system

If the projects pay the bounty hunters with their own token, it will not matter. They have their own token allocation for promotion, one of them is for the bounty program. So, this will not give an impact. The project will really need the funds when they want to continue and develop their projects, in which if they really have real use case prodicts. They will also need much money to list their token in good exchange.

Projects that are real and have good use case will try as much as possible not to ruin their reputation, they find means to build good reputation in crypto space and gain investors trust, those type of project will never cheat bounty hunters, as a bounty always look out for such project to promote

What actually determines the payment of a bounty reward is the success of the project's public sale. Therefore, in my own opinion, if a project is successful in its public sale, then they are under the obligation to pay as promised but If the public sale did not went as planned, maybe a soft cap was reached, then the bounty reward will be reduced and paid, at the same time, if the public sale isn't successful, then I don't think the project team will find it encouraging to pay the bounty rewards. Thus, it shows that, the payment of bounty reward depends on several factors.
Nevertheless, many projects today finds it a big problem paying the bounty reward even though they are the ones that agreed to it; it is either they change the rules at the end or the find excuses to deny bounty hunters their rewards, only very few actually sticks to the agreement and pay as promised.

If some of successful projects [If any] don't pay bounty hunters, so why to blame failed ones!
I know some projects running since years and hunters either waiting for paiements or get a worthless token which has no utility in the project itself.
Hunters share the risk of fail, just like early investors, so if the project fail or in his way to fail, no differences between not paying at all and being paid with a worthless shit coin.

You correctly pointed out that this is all in theory. In practice, we face such a problem that most projects delay payments even when a large amount of money has been collected. The payment of a bounty hunter will be safe only when the award will be deposited with the manager.

It is not needed for a project to be well successful in order to pay bounty hunters.  They just need start-up funds and allocate some of it on the gas to transfer tokens (if they are using ERC20 tokens).  The problem with the bounty not being paid is that those project creator only have an idea but doesn't have any initial fund and think that they can milk investors to do their biddings. So when the project failed to collect funds, they are unable to send the reward token to bounty hunters because they actually don't have money for it. 

Other projects that aim to swindle/scam bounty hunter will never pay even though they collected a huge amount of money.  They use different tactics such as changing rules at implementing KYC at the end of the campaign even though it was not required in the beginning.

It depends on a lot of factors but basically it depends upon the intentions of the team and bounty managers as well because I have seen projects with good funds raised but still deny sending rewards to hunters or keep making excuses on the other hand there are projects with small funds raised still they send the promised rewards to the hunters without any excuses so you never know how these people will handle hunters and their rewards.

Some projects pay with their coins which initially has no value. Paying bounty hunters with their own token will not hurt them as much since the value of it is not yet determined. However, projects who had only a few funds after their crowdfunding will have a hard time finishing the project they have started. Project development takes time, a lot of money, and effort. To be able to continuously, they will have to gather more investors and find ways to reach the market, advertising plays a huge role in this and how they can assure their community that their project is leading in the right direction. A project starts to crumble once investors feel that the project is not moving forward.

Bounty hunters should be rewarded for their determination to accomplish the different tasks to promote the project. Thus, they are deserving to get a decent salary for their diligence. However, some of the team of those projects neglected their responsibilities to the bounty manager and hunter. Hence, even bounty managers complain and reported it as a scam to raise awareness to the interested investors.
For an instance:

[1] Hitmex Exchange {Scam} The owner is a fraud (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234569.0)

Also, even if they were able to raise an amount that is capable to support their project, but it contradicts their plan to scam, they still won’t pay them.

what do you expect ?

 they are not succesful so why would they pay but they should put that in the rule before they start and bounty participants must agree to that so that no complaints at the end if the bounty has fail but the bounty should be transparent and fair for the bounty participants to know that they are really have failed and it wasnt a make up story to run away with the profit that they made .

 new projects not guaranteed success but most new projects now are ended up getting failed .

this question come when the reward is promised to be paid in BTC or Ethereum. but in most cases bounty programs are paid in every project's native tokens. so I don't think there is any reason to not pay bounty tokens just because of not raising enough funds. they really don't loose anything by paying bounty tokens. maybe 2, 3 ethereums which they require as fees to send the tokens.
but most of the time those projects don't even pay those worthless tokens to participants and scam them.

When a project is established, a bounty is needed to promote it. To meet their minimum requirements, I think the project team should pay our bounty rewards. Of course, these need to be investigated by bounty hunters. Now as a bounty, I like some well-known bounty hunters. After all, they examine whether the project has potential . If a project is unsuccessful, even if a bounty is issued, it is of little value.

Why should that be a problem for project to pay her Bounty participants after a successful sales of their token or coin, a promise is a promise and once the condition is fulfilled, I don't think their should be a reason to hold back project teams to reward those who bring their projects to limelight.
Do you know how much it will cost marketing agency to promote a project on their platform? They don't even receive their pay in tokens or crypto but you pay them in fiat which must start up cannot pay them.
We are their only chance to get project advice promoted and advertise.  :-* :-* :-*

yes, but it is unlikely. basically they wouldn't care about bounty hunters. sorry to say honestly. Even those that are big projects or those that have been successful in the market don't necessarily pay bounty hunters, let alone a new project, even if it has raised a lot of funds?

For now, most of the bounty projects that don't pay their hunters fall into scams. I guess even newbies know about this. Either they reach their market cap or not, a legit bounty campaign will find ways to pay their bounty hunters even if its already past due. If the team behind the project is also thinking about paying off the efforts of bounty hunters, then they should fulfill their promise that was made before the campaign has started.

Its easy things for you to think that they can pay you even they don't raise their predicted amount .However a legit project always have the potentiality to raise the amount and they will pay the hunters for sure .So research yourself that which project are legit and have enough potentiality to raise up .

I have encountered projects that consider the efforts of bounty hunters. Despite being unsuccessful, they still manage to pay their participants accordingly but I've also encountered projects that don't pay their participants after they failed and that's actually the real struggle of bounty hunting. That's the reason why searching and knowing the potential of a project before joining is important.

With a new project, it doesn't matter whether you invest work, time or money. Always better double-check whether you can trust the responsible people to hold their promises.

It is true that the project team's obligation to pay the bounty hunters as promised, but the fact is that more than 95% of the existing new projects
make it difficult to pay bounty hunters. There are many reasons they use to keep delaying payments, and they usually disappear over time. This is
what is often experienced by bounty hunters today. I can understand if the projects fail, then the projects team is having trouble pay bounty hunters.

But the problem is that there are many successful projects and the project team still makes it difficult to pay for bounty hunters. Until now there is
still no solution regarding this matter, As a bounty hunter, we couldn't do anything and all we could do was move on to the next project again.

If they are paying in their own ERC-20 tokens then there is no excuse for not paying since it is a token they created themselves. It is not costing them anything because they are creating value out of thin air. Maybe they should stop accepting low quality bounty hunters with fake twitter followers. Sometimes they accept so many people and have so many bounties available to join that it becomes difficult to manage the campaign. It's frustrating having to wait for payment because they are wasting time verifying useless spam posts on various social media platforms.

I don't blame projects that find it hard to pay bounty hunters because you already use the word 'non successful' ,how do you expect a project that failed to raise funds to pay bounty hunters? With what money exactly? Not every new projects will be like YOUC or others that still decide to keep their promises even when they failed to reach hardcap

Some will even turn away from bounty hunters once they failed to raise hardcap successfully, the truth about been a promoter is never really on any project, they have potential? Good enough and know that it's a risk you took, it might turn out good or turn out bad

Non successful projects are project that failed to raise their target fund, this is different from projects that used bounty hunters and still decide not to pay them or even exit scam on their investors, if a project failed to raise their developments fund I won't expect anything good from such projects, I expect every bounty hunters to do the same thing

Actually if they are going to pay huge amount of money to bounty hunters, that could lead to big price dump as you can observe on the bounty section every time the bounty hunter received their rewards they immediately sell it on the market which could lead to huge price dump.

why there are still bounty that pays big or have a million fund allocation on them ?  if they do that it means that they are ready to face the dump that will happen or they arent scared but most of those projects are lucky because most that promised with huge rewards are not legit but they only do that to attract more workers to help them in their promotions  . even if a project isnt that really succesful or have collected a huge amount of funds , that shouldnt be an excuse to pay the bounty hunters  . as long as every bounty pays without any reasons , there will be no issue that will show up

Not necessarily. Many projects even after getting huge amount of money will go corrupt just to lure other investors. They will keep pumping their wallets with money and don’t give out sufficient amount of weightage to bounty players. That’s because of money greed. I have seen many projects who had amazing ico in the first place, grabbed good amount of stakes but never returned fair amount of money to their investors. One experience I had with towerbee project. A well established marketing firm had great ico back in 2017. With the today’s rate of ether and bitcoin they are having four times more money in their hands. But what they giving back is big zero. So yeah there are more than one type of cases which are playing this industry really.

What they usually do is promise huge rewards to bounty participants in hopes of getting some traction.
9 out of 10 fail, but there's still that one.

And risk with that one is the team. What they do most often is a swap, basically nullifying the worth of your tokens

It's a matter of choice, you want to be a bounty hunter? You have to be ready for multiple failures because you can't escape this, failure will come through bounties that's certain because not all projects you will promote will be successful

They should if they raised the soft cap they should pay their promoters because they contributed to the success of the project, or they will be reported as not paying their promoters and they are going to lose their reputation, investors should not trust projects that do not honor their words.

Maybe at this time there are very often projects that appear that don't look so good, regarding the concept that is presented to everyone, my question is why the team team in the project, as if they don't have the intention to run a project, because of problems This often happens not only once or twice, in fact we can see in the gift threads that many projects are not clear where their goals are to build their project, indeed not all projects are not serious, some even run it successfully, I think at the beginning of this year There will be many quality projects emerging. Until now, there are no promising projects.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of cryptocurrency companies that conduct bounties and that collect a huge amount of money on the tokens sales and these projects do not want to pay bounty hunters for various reasons, and of course it is very difficult to deal with such scam projects.

Most of the successful project will definitely pay their bounty hunters as the bounty hunters are helping them to obtain their success not only if that project will scam the investors and of course the bounty hunters upon hitting their goal.

For projects that failed then they will definitely postpone the payment to their bounty hunters not unless if they have a plan B to make their project a successful one. So for bounty hunters, you should be wise on what project to support if you like your hard work and time to be paid at the end of the campaign.

Why would it be hard to them?
First they have an allocation for bounty and it isn't even going to be from the projects crowdfunding,
Almost all bounty allocation are made with their own token so why would it be hard for them to pay?
If their project fails or succeed they should pay with what they've promise.

Many don't pay especially those who are intended to scam other people, they are not going to share those money that they've collected

from those poor investors, if the project is legit with or without hitting the softcap they should be ready paying the hunters, as it is part

of their obligations and they should be ready to pay those who help them to advertise the project.

Everyone will try to make their new project look shiny. It can help to have a look what other projects the responsible people have already done, and how they worked out.

Yes you are right but most of the projects on the bounties section are not successful some of them just stop their project after getting enough fund from investors. It depends on how serious the project is some of them will going to pay you but there is no assurance whether the price of the coin that was allocated to bounty hunters were valuable or not.

In my opinion, many projects miss the opportunity to get a discount for their marketing.
Indeed, projects often do not pay because they initially did not correctly calculate the required amount for payments, in the end they simply refuse it instead of just paying less.

The question  is - would they able to get sufficient funding or investment?

The question  is - would they able to pay even if they had  succeeded and wont scam out those bounty hunters?

Everything would be still questionable because there is no such guarantee that those arent scammers since from the beginning.

A bounty hunter has his own responsibility to assess those things at the very beginning.
No one can help you in evaluating the project but yourself. You can check some hints from their thread and social media channels.
As you can't determine if they will exit scam or not at early stages, you can only rely from what they are disclosing to the public.
But once you got the notion that they will turn as a scam, better stay away as early as you can.
Don't let them waste your effort long time. Help yourself as no one will.

This time is a bit different caused by the team can provide the liquidity through uniswap. that means if the chance for the token to have low liquidity can be minimized through that method.
It has become the responsibility by the developers to apply for the several exchange site.
It's not so difficult when the developers reached the hardcap

off course many project we found to hard pay . I think its decide to limit for people to use it. its very easy to use but not for long time .

 

If they successfull at the fund rising and wont pay bounty hunter, it can be bad image for the project, it has big chance to be scam project. Bounty hunter usually only get paid 0.5% from total dund rising which is normal in crypto or non crypto world. Bounty also usually got paid with their token.

No, not a guarantee, the success rate of new projects is still low, it has not change AFAIK.

Of course it's not a problem, but unfortunately, there are projects that are still not paying bounty hunters, and you will be surprise that they declared to raise a big amount of money but failed to list the project in big exchange, If you know what I'm saying, these projects are shady and they'll never pay their bounty hunters or if they'll pay, no guarantee that the price of the reward is the same as the IEO price, mostly it's lower.

What projects did you find that were high paying earlier this year? because I only see a few projects that can provide decent payments and
are not included in the high payout category.

Refuse to pay and paying less, there's no difference, it would still ruin their reputation because they violated the agreement. Though the contract is not that valid, or legally valid but reputation is very important for them to gain investors, so if they will not follow the agreement, we can assume that the project is scam that anytime will fall due to lack of support.

Things to do, learned and move on.

There are succesful projects paid by hunters without so much hassle and without trouble like delaying tactics or having kyc stuff, by that they are transparent and sincere in the beginning. Failed projects will surely not pay hunters because there are no value of those tokens in the market and that's life of hunters, getting paid or not.

Did you see DIA? recently poolz defi was also giving very big payment to the its participant. As far as i know if it's not only that. There were so many legit bounties that gave decent payment to the its promoters like radix and many more.
You can find them easily through the bounty section. The trusted developer will always become a big bet when dealing with the new project.

Just as we all know that most of the bounties are paid in the campaigned tokens. And once a project fails, the token campaigned may end up not being printed and even if printed, the token will be useless. I don't see any point in getting paid with such token.
It is better to just walk on once a project you campaign fails. It will even be wickedness to expect payment from a project that cannot even start.

Absolutely buddy. If the project went successful, those budget that is allocated in bounty will be distributed to the bounty participants but if vice versa, it is either the project team will immediately stop or postponed the bounty or the team will declare bankruptcy. On the other hand, if the project became successful, the team will continue its project plan or road map and sometimes they are giving some giveaways.

The initial intention was to pay hunters for their effort promoting a project and it was not written in the bounty thread in anywhere that if the project fail to raise money hunters won't get paid, but the unfortunate situation is, since hunters are to be paid in tokens and this project couldn't raise money to support the project that put hunters in a disadvantage whereby getting paid in a worthless tokens is similar to not getting paid.

If rules of engagement are followed; then bounty payments should be paid irrespective of the outcome of the project. But in reality, most projects that end up not paying bounty rewards are the most successful ones. In a nut shell i am saying raising a huge or low amount of money is not a reason guiding bounty reward payments.

It is nothing new, the success rate of new projects are low from the start but the difference is that the early projects they developers were able to collect money and now it is hard to fool the investors with gimmick projects and expect to raise money. But the problem is that we are dealing in a decentralized market and it is hard to have a change but the fact is that we will have these restrictions enforced by the government and we have to accept that considering the scams we have seen till now.

let alone those who were unsuccessful in raising initial funds, those who have already had success by achieving maximum targets, sometimes they may not pay bounty hunters for various reasons.
Therefore, look for bounties whose funds for participants have been escrow by team to trusted people.

Not every time, there are still bad projects that will not choose to pay their bounty hunters despites being so proud to raise their hard cap. These are the so called real scammers in the crypto space, they are not afraid that their reputation will be ruined because at the very beginning they already planned it.

sometimes bounty hunters would just shift to btc paying campaigns though the pay is quite low compared to bounty reward because they don't want to take a high risk anymore.


This is true, I agree with this completely, like 100%.

It never going to be easy for a project that's not successful to pay promoters, if they raise very low amount of money for development they can decide not to pay a dime, it's never their fault, as a reasonable bounty hunter if a project you promote failed to raise money for development do not bother to expect anything from such project, it's not easy to look away but it's part of the risks that bounty hunters must take

Only two out of twenty projects will still decide to pay bounty hunters if they failed to reach softcap, Youengine did well to their promoters for unknown reasons, I was surprised too because they never raised anything close to their softcap target, don't expect every crypto project to be like this

If a project hit their softcap they are obligated to pay their bounty hunters, or we can consider these projects as scammers and should be reported and tagged in the scam sections, developers should always honor their commitment to bounty hunters and their investors or they will go down and will not gain supporters, who would even think of supporting projects that do not honor their words.

It should be like that, the dev team in charge will definitely keep their promise, and if the project is truly professional, it will definitely reward the bounty hunter according to the agreement.
Unfortunately, some projects, which I call "irresponsible", often break promises, some cut allocations, some delay rewards, and there are even rules that change when the distribution schedule arrives. It's really annoying, but that's the risk as a bounty hunter, ready or not, we have to be prepared.
I sometimes wonder, the dev team postponed the reward for bounty hunters for fear of being dumped? unprofessional reasons. they should be prepared for the consequences of the percentage that has been allocated.

Hm, how about projects that successfully raise hardcap on exchanges and still deny bounty hunters their promised coins or tokens? Bounty hunting is wide and anything is bound to happen, even projects that failed to meet their softcap target still pays bounty hunters, this hunting thing is game, you can win or lose in unexpected ways

The hunters have no power to force the scammer who has been getting a lot of money but refuse to pay the hunters its reward. So many scam projects that successfully raised the funds were scamming the hunters. We have see that happened so many times.
That's why so many hunters in demand to use escrow to secure their payment.

The reason why many projects do not pay for participants that I have observed for 2 years is active in participating in the campaign.
-The team fled with the sales fund
-There was a communication miss with the bounty manager
-There was a cancellation unilaterally when it was finished
Projects that have the potential to fail are better avoided to follow than later we regret that there will be a roblem when finished. Not a few at this time there are many indications that the existing project is a potential scam

I prefer to participate in bounty campaigns arranged by already popular and high-cap projects, because they have authority and opportunity to pay to the people, who were working. It`s much more safe to participate in events arranged by such projects, because you`re sure, your time isn`t wasted

Yeah successful projects are now hardly seen.
I don’t know what is the main reason behind it. If they pay low its quite acceptable. Most of them Don't even pay. Hunters works for months but in the end gets nothing.
Reason …
Bounty manager scammed
Team Isn't paying
Distribution will be in next month
But next month never comes.

Well, there are many ICO projects that  do not get  enough funds or soft caps, so the  team is very  difficult to pay the campaign participants.
That’s the reason because  so many  projects also commit scams so  that projects that are really serious and good, don’t get a steady stream
of funds from investors. But there are also projects that get funding and great success on their ICO, but they still don’t want to pay campaign
participants, that’s really sneaky.

If they really wanted to pay their participants, they will pay them as they have promise but it happens that most unsuccessful projects never show up after their ICO/IEO. Very unfortunate and that is the truth now. We got lucky if we receive those rewards but the problem is where you can trade them, they are not yet listed.

If you are participating in these projects, better not to expect them because that possible it gives you nothing. You can't force them either as they are not active anymore in their telegram.

No, they don't have to be known throughout the whole world, they don't have to raise hardcap target, that's why bounty allocations are very small, mostly from 0.01% to 1% of the total max supply of the projects, I don't see any reason why a new project should deny hunters there payments unless they raised nothing in ICO or IEO

Successful projects find it hard to pay and keep their promises, poolz raised huge amount of money and they refused to pay promoters because the token raised up to 14$ per token, isn't that greediness? Successful or not won't determine if you are going to get paid

Being bounty hunter is the same as investing to a project but instead of money you're investing your time. I think if the reward pool have been decided from the very start and the allocation already made aswell there's no reason for the project to refuse to pay, for example when the developer already proposed of the token total supply allocation. except if the projects fail hard they can't picture to maintain that project even for a year or the bounty hunter were promised with stablecoins as a payment which doesn't exist if there's no money to be raised.

Accepting defeat is painful because it is a mixture of hurt ego with hopelessness of failure. When analyzing the failures of the projects we found a high level of egoism of the developers who are not concerned with the correct disclosure and who pay the minimum possible to the disseminators. Then that following sentence: Whatever you plant you reap, works in the corporate world and in business. How many projects have raised large amounts of funds and fail? Several and selfishness is the primary problem.

There are not many projects that neglected to meet their tokensale target but still stay faithful to their obligation to bounty hunters, the last one was youengine, I'm astounded how dependable this team are in any event, when they failed to collect enough money for their project they actually paid each penny owed, numerous new projects will keep away from to pay once they failed to reach hardcap.

Most times the projects don't usually have intentions to pay, they just want to use hunters and dump them. If you check records of project that paid as they said, you will notice that the team are truthful to their words. When team is transparent and truthful to their words they won't find it difficult to pay hunters. And if you check some of this projects that didn't pay, they are no where to be found.

I think this is not how this really works, but to some extent, you are right, some projects owners find it difficult to pay bounty hunters if their ICO or IEO or whatever didn't go well, the reason for this for some is because the project might not continue so whats the need spending their money to distribute useless tokens, but for some others, it's just wickedness.
And there are still some that get all the money to run the project successfully but still refuse to pay bounty hunter out of greed and deceit, this kind of projects I don't trust cus sooner or later, they will go down and investors will loose money.

The facts demonstrate that the project team's commitment to pay the bounty hunters as guaranteed, but the truth of the matter is that over 80% of the current new projects make it difficult to pay bounty hunters. There are numerous reasons they use to continue to postpone payment and they ordinarily vanish over the long run. This is what is frequently experienced by bounty hunters today. I can comprehend if the projects fall flat, at that point the projects team is experiencing difficulty in paying bounty hunters.

If you are joining a bounty campaign sometimes there is a stipulation that the project will not push through if the soft cap is not meet, and besides even if they distribute their token it will be useless because the project will be abandon because of lack of enough funding to make the project a realization, but if the project is a big success they should pay bounty hunters it's their obligation.

Now, at the height of cryptocurrency fame, many companies want to launch their projects and create coins. But at the beginning of their journey, they may not themselves know how their company will develop, whether people will be interested in what they offer. Therefore, you cannot call everyone scammers, perhaps this is just a failure in business.

You are definitely right on that there is not any project which is really a great choice for paying. New projects have always been dark for me, instead of choosing these projects l prefer to focus on other projects. Most of the new projects can be unsuccessful, there is a high risk of investing in these projects. If we want to make decisions about choosing projects, we should make hard research about the project, which we want to invest. The project which you above mentioned mostly they don't pay what pledged. For this reason, try staying away from them is the best choice.

lol this is funny because not only unsuccessful project find it hard to pay because i have worked for some very successful projects and soon as they realize that the token is really doing well in the market then they start looking for different excuses to cheat hunters out of their earned rewards , so its not a matter of successful or not any project that actually has a good plan would pay no matter what

Actually, companies don't have any clue about the future developments, firstly they want to raise the funds and most of them scammed the investors in this way. They will design the roadmap in an attractive way and after fundraising, they won't bother the development activity.

Even I have seen many projects that were successful and did not pay the reward as promised on the other hand those project who are unsuccessful we do not expect anything from those projects. If a project achieves its target its dev duty is to pay reward as promised and that would not be the issue. I started participating in bounties again for the last 3 months and seeing that most of the bounties are doing good and paying as well.

It is really hard for the non successful to raised their bounty rewards for the reason that they are avoiding possible dump of the bounty hunter which are more likely to happen due to there are plenty of hunters that once they receive their reward they will immediately sell off their token that make the project become unsuccessful.

True, there are no words to complain when the project is not maximally successful, but I have also found successful projects but bounty hunters are also not paid, even when complained they were even removed from their telegram group.

It's a very simple, bounty hunters reward are coming from the amount the project is generated through crowd sale.

So this will happen, if the project will not sell enough, they will fail, if they fail they will not pursue the project, hence the coin or token has no value, and bounty hunters and other kind of jobs promoting the project will not get paid, and you are right, we should not complain for not understanding how bounty hunting works.

Bounty hunters even should be thankful they don't loss a dime unlike investors.

It was not surprising and that is usually the ending story of scams or fake projects. Their devs are not seeing what could be the worse result in the crypto community as they only wanting to fool people and make money from their promotion (it was free of cost).

It sometimes happens that even we receive our rewards but somehow it can't be traded as well. It doesn't make sense than having these shitcoins without a chance to trade it since it wasn't listed to any exchangers.

Really disappointing, and it a little bit worried that this might be a reason that many people will no longer take the risk in crypto particularly in new projects. Coz even now, I felt it and have to see that most of them never succeed.

as developers manage of work following customs with personal strategy, there might be different on choice as option with part of tasks on marketing and distribution of product and service for public audience, that more or less developer might requires of supports with fair limit of resource to complete tasks on request with the project management.

many new projects could not afford bounty hunters once they had completed all the sales. those who do not pay bounty hunters are not only failed projects but there are also projects that are very successful but still do not want to pay bounty hunters for various reasons. and conditions like these have been experienced by bounty hunters. so experienced bounty hunters will seek and follow bounty projects with the best bounty managers.

Non successful projects will definitely find it hard to pay and thats not their fault, not raising enough money to develop a project means game over, if you promote a project and it failed to achieve softcap it's better to forget such project cos everything will come to an halt, even if you get paid the tokens or coins will be worthless

People are less stressed when the campaigns they participate in are paid for, but not every project is like that which is what always happens in this space. But I have a completely different opinion from many people here, instead of blaming the project you blame yourself for the meaningless work and hope it will bring you laughter.

Project developers need to be more attentive and productive so that their project develops and the coins have sufficient value so that users do not worry about the commission spent. In most cases, today the cost of the commission can be much higher than the cost of a certain amount of cryptocurrency on the Ethereum network.

sadly, most projects disappear once they collected money from these naive buyers. how many projects have you seen here that actually develop into something useful for the community. there are so many of them, and yet, you can only see few to successfully hit their goals.
so it is understandable that most will not pay their bounty hunters because they have no intentions to begin with. if these projects can't get their hunters, i guess they will stop doing this kind of scheme and return to be btc-paying campaign.

actually I have seen some good projects that, they neglect to get the objective supports required yet they actually endure and proceed with the project and as of not long ago they can in any case be effective, there are projects that way, so inability to gather reserves is anything but a significant issue since, in such a case that the project is helpful for some individuals, the subsidizes will be not difficult to acquire and investors will see from the case firsthand when the project is good then it is sure that investors will give their cash for the advancement cycle

Soft cap achievers do have chances to pay the hunters while those who didn't meet this level mostly turned to scam both hunters and investors, some are for real and they are sending back collected fund.

While the most are scammers who really intend to runaway investors fund and ending up hunters as part of scamming activities
since they've participated with team to attract investors.

Very risky activites even you are just trying to get some sort of extra earnings.

as part with consequence that developer works on customs with the development and manufacturing, the ico scheme helps on funding on covering expends to prepare release of product to public audience that different manage on running with strategic might be taken by developer considering distinct of factors and aspects with assumption.

at least they must be able to achieve the minimum achievement. and payments to campaign participants must of course be made. but when their sales do not reach the minimum target, the project will be canceled or with the solution of an extension of time to add more sales.
Most developers will say they will seek private investors to raise funds for project development. after that, they will run away.
that kind of thing, obviously won't be of any use even if we get paid.

- Even if unsuccessful projects can pay participants, the value of these tokens is zero, without listing and liquidity, we won't have money, successful projects often fall into the same situation, they gain acceptance from an exchange but soon, dumping continuously occurs and that exchange takes them off the exchange. The crypto industry has always had such risks, as a participant in projects we should be ready for those situations in which we fail, expecting a perfect success rate is nonexistent when everything like bounty and airdrop is free, can't ask for more, we can just try luck

Some project will not list after the payment to bounty hunters.It should be corrected by the project people. Then the people will not participated in bounty. Then no project will be promoted in bitcointalk. One of the project doing this is JACS team.Jacs team should list their token in the exchange. If they keep delay, it will back fire the project.

It depends to the project team if they promised to pay bounty hunters after the bounty or the ICO.. and If they raised a huge amount of money then there is no problem to pay bounty hunters, I don't see any problem here unless they will turn scam and ran with the money.