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Bitcoin has topped out and has started going down. This bitcoin bear market might last for a very long time and will probably never go higher than the last ath.

Why be stuck with dead funds in Bitcoin, when you can make a fortune in the stock market buying stocks like Gamestop.

There are other, yet to be discovered 100x stocks ready to moon out there, don't be stuck in this sorry btc mess.

Why dont you ask the people that bought Gamestop at $20 this january how that is working out.

Its a hard story to find 10x gems in stock markets and dont loose everything on other shitty stocks

If you are in crypto trading and your favorite coin is Bitcoin, if you do not know how to predict the price of bitcoin. These are the likely reasons below.

1. Greediness, this will make you to use much that want you can afford to risk and inappropriately in the way you will lose
2. Not knowing how the market works, many traders just trade the way they like, not considering how the market works.
3. Jumping in to trading , not having knowledge and experience about it.

Also, I want you to know that if you lose in crypto trading, there are more possibilities that you will lose in stock or forex trading. Trading needs patience, discipline, knowledge and experience, it will take time before all these are achieved why most people consider it to be a few days job, and lose.

Couldn't have said it better myself. From my perspective though, trading/Crypto investing seems a far safer option that stock trading. Thus, someone clueless who gets involved in stock trading, is way more likely to lose his investment. I haven't lost a single dime by trading, I've never sold at a lower price that I've bought. Surely, I've made mistakes, but I have a decent profit with fewer worries.

I disagree with you here. Investing in meme stocks is a gamble and it is all about luck and the risks are huge. You want crazy gains? - go invest in penny stocks, but don't cry to your mama if you lose your money.

Bitcoin on the other hand is a fundamental, macro play. If you look at the current intrinsic value of GameStop you'll see that is way overvalued. I would never put my money into something like this unless I want to donate my money to other people lol


Oh yeah? Go get them tiger.  ::)

You won't get a profit in casino, if you are on the player side, your graph will be slow descent but if you are on the other side then I do agree that there is a big profit. I don't get why OP is comparing stocks and bitcoin, as the quote above has said, it has different usage. The recent debacle in the Gamestop stock increase is just an accident that turned a whole community of redditors into artificially pumping the prices, the only advantage of stocks over bitcoin is that some of them have dividends. They are both a waiting game so weighing one from the other as much better is not the best thing to do.

Well said.
We are not at late 90s stock market is way to old.
Now a days we don’t need any other 3rd party people to work with us.
Now with cryptos and Bitcoins we can trade from whenever and wherever we can.
No barrie and there are multiple coins to trade.
The future are cryptos.
And mark my words.

You don't have to invest in meme stocks. AMD was trading at $3 not that many years ago, it has shot up nicely. Apple was trading at almost nothing in the early 2000's. Look at it today, picking the right stocks will make you very rich.

Bitcoin has topped out and has no intrinsic value, find the next amd or apple and you will be very happy you sold BTC at these levels and bought something else that mooned and will pay you a yearly dividend.

Buying or holding Bitcoin is just as pointless as buying and holding metals, its dead money.

I think that your opinion here would be very subjective to every trader and bitcoin enthusiasts.
We could all agree that we have different perspectives and principle when it come to these matters.
For one, in my case, I am determined to keep being patient as bitcoin is under correction right now.

Thats your choice, but keep in mind by doing so, you could in stead avoid the coming downturn in BTC and rather buy a stock that can make you very rich.

I think the only time that bitcoin will be better is when you trade btc and make money from it. Stocks also has its own winning side when it rises and losing side when it drops just like bitcoin too but a good bitcoin trader can enjoy more than when it is left in the wallet.

Not so sure about that, especially if the market is heavily regulated by big players. Who knows when a Robinhood move will be pulled out again and then you'll buy at the top.

Instead of fighting each other, you should encourage users to diversify. I believe there are enough degens out there who will pump together just to troll the wales.

So you are just being fascinated by the rally that took in wall street of GameStop share prices?So what happened next do you know about that?An amateur battle between hedge funds Melvin Capital and Reddit users group was main reason of this price surge.Last year the prices were trading at $27 and suddenly they saw rise of 1700% within few months and from last days it's in the news all over.A group was short selling in order to gain huge profits but Reddit community start pumping huge funds to increase share prices and Hedge funds loose billion dollars from that.But now Robinhood a trading exchange banned the trading of GameStop shares which resulted in sudden fall of share prices and they fell from $460 to $197 in two days.So these are market and shares you are taking about?Will share prices tend to rise from now onwards because it was just short bull run and they will drop further as stock market is governed by certain rules and regulations governed by centeral authorities which can anytime lead to rise and fall in prices under their influence which is not the case with decentralised cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin which have grown more than 6200% in 10 years.Do you know any such shares which have shown such good results inspite of global accusations of being bubble.So just change your pessimistic approach and adopt the future market if you want to part of that time.

It still depends on a person's perspective, well most of us here are looking positive about the price of Bitcoin and some of us are patient to wait before its price goes wild again. Though you are right about stock market but still people have their own decision to choose either go with crypto, stocks or both.

You can say that, but I still believe that bitcoin will give much more $ in the future. It is no problem if the price still at $33k-$34k or even lower, but in the future, when bitcoin prices soar to the high price, you will regret not investing in bitcoin. That will be too late for you to go back to bitcoin because the price is already at the very highest price, which you are hard to buy.

People tend to wait until the price can increase, and they are trying to earn more bitcoin from trading, which I think can give them the way to make a profit in bitcoin.

I do not want to join the stock market because that is too complicated for me, and I do not have any knowledge or skills to analyze the stock market, so I will still stay in the crypto market.

Well, I did think that bitcoin will never go up but boy I was wrong. I've been talking about that in the time that bitcoin is still hitting at three digits, right now the price is at 5 digits and it is still going strong. Let the people decide where they want to put their money, stocks and bitcoin have their difference but this time, I am siding with bitcoin.

You'll rarely see pumps with stocks like Gamestop. It's became trending because of the reddit retail investors but it's not happening all of the time. There's a better hope investing in bitcoin whether you'll be in the long term or short term.

I think you need to see and start comparing most of the known stocks and check how much they've gained within the last decade. And see how much bitcoin did gain for the last decade up to the recent time.

I am not convince the the traditional stock market is still better than the crypto trading except the stock market in question is different from the one we used to know. Last year, we saw that oil price does not only go down to zero but some stocks were showing negative which for me it is not possible in crypto. The worst it can go is to see some coin go down 100X of the initial prices. Bitcoin price speculation has been something you can hardly predict because the price can go in any way. Just has you have stated out. If by tomorrow the bitcoin price go above 50k, you will say otherwise

OP is another jealous noob who’s annoyed he didn’t get into BTC earlier. Instead of moaning & trying to annoy people on a BTC forum, why not buy what you can afford to & hold it for many years. That’s what we all do, just some of us were earlier than others. Don’t be bitter, be better :)

Buy what you can afford to with your monthly pay cheque & in 10 years you might be rich. I guarantee you that whatever you invest in BTC now will be worth more in $ terms in 10 years than the vast majority, if not all stocks in that time frame.

Fiat currency & traditional investments, which includes the stock market are going down the toilet. The world economy is ruined. Bitcoin is the future, be a part of it & buy.

It’s never too late.

This is sort of meaningless as you are talking about *one* thing here and that one thing is called speculation.

Ahah! There you go. So, it's just a shameless plug for Gamestop that makes you take a swipe on Bitcoin.

So true. Thanks for rightly directing OP.

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OP should know that what's being experienced in Bitcoin at the moment is momentarily and it's called price correction. Bitcoin will see a level above its current ATH in days to come. My conviction is based on the fact that this is a post halving year and we are just in the first month of it. Bitcoin will soar more.

You forget that altcoin exists, where Bitcoin has reached its ATH quite a while ago then we are just switching to altcoins just to keep up with the momentum and could get the profit even though we are not holding Bitcoin at that moment so we don't lose the hype train like these days.

That's true, we should not focus only on one matter. We can diversify the investment into different instruments such as stocks or gold so we have another backup for income.

Stocks, bitcoin, forex, etc doesn't matter if you aren't good at it. There is something special in each of them for some people, that's why traders are divided into different things. What if I tell you that marketers don't earn much money but psychiatrist earn dozen amount of money? Does this mean that we shoud all turn into this last profession? There can be a great marketer who will earn billions and there can be a bad psychiatrist that can be left without job in medicine forever.

Investment can bring amazing profit when you invest in publicly unknown projects. Everyone knows google and microsoft nowadays.

How can you say that? Can you give proofs of why you conclude it? If it is just your feeling or guessing, it means you are in panic and spread FUDs. By the way, no one really can predict what to happen in Bitcoin this year, but you must remember that we are still in a bullish trend and even the altcoin season to come. So, it is normal if the Bitcoin price is a bit difficult to increase, it will have time to increase again then.

But you can get more in the crypto market by trading and investing both in Bitcoin and Altcoins. You don't need to lie to people if Gamestop to give more. It is not true, the chance to get bigger profits in crypto is better than in the stock market. It is the fact, bro.

It depends where your expertise is as long as you know how to make profit on your choice it doesn't matter what you choose. Both of them have different usage and Bitcoin is the only one that I would choose because it can be a currency use in spending or an investment property and I don't think it's not that special for you OP.

Bitcoin could grow much more in every 4 years due to halving. Now tell me if stock market have some similar like that?

Cryptocurrency and stock are both good for investment, stocks are for traditional ones, you are saying this thing just because of the inflation of the value of Gamestop but don't you ever consider how bitcoin pumps up these days and how altcoins become more valuable than before? You don't need to say all these things because a lot of people are still into cryptocurrency especially those who already know things about it.

Well for me, stock and bitcoin are totally different, you can gain a 10x to 20x fold in stock with 5-10 years of investment, but in bitcoin, there is possible you can do and have that amount which is consuming time when is the perfect time to get profit. Bitcoin is a very volatile investment, and in that way makes bitcoin a valuable asset. With a limit amount and the price depend on the demand and supply, bitcoin will surely have adoption that could someone potentially have.

Sorry I am not at all interested in the stock market for now, I find it more comfortable when investing in Bitcoin. I don't agree that the current
Bitcoin bearish market will last long, if you say that you are not doing your research and analysis properly. Because based on my analysis Bitcoin
will recover soon and return to the ATH price in the near future. But I will not force you to invest in Bitcoin, because everyone is free to decide
what is right. So feel free to invest in the stock market, if you think it is more profitable.

I never invested in stocks and am curious about this.  But to those who have invested with stocks, would you recommend it?


Always heard if you could make 7 percent a year... that is very good.  But aren't most people in stock market traders and not holders?

If that is about the stock market, I am giving up because I can not learn the stock market analysis. I feel that is too difficult for me and the analysis itself will not be just about technical and fundamental, and that will be related to the country's situations. That is why, when my friends offer me to try the stock market, I do not have the interest to try. I feel that the crypto market will be my way to make money because the trade component will be bigger than the stock market, and I think that can be the chance for me to make a profit.

Bitcoin will be the best thing for me, even if you say there is nothing special about bitcoin because you do not try to buy and hold bitcoin for some time. If you can do that, I am sure you will move from the stock market to the crypto market.

You can always trade other cryptocurrencies you don't have to go to stocks.
I made good profits like that, but you have to do a good research before investing in anything.

What a BS LOL, stock market is rotten to the core, the manipulation more rampant than in cryptocurrencies and it's the insider who got to get the profit not average joe and you're saying it's better than bitcoin market.
Did you know why those big player always get profit and the noob small player always the one who lost? it's because the system designed that way.
Even this recent GME fuss talks a lot about this big players and how they could get robinhood to forcesell the GME stock  ::)

Why not acquire both if you have money to invest? Stocks is stable Bitcoin is volatile so I will go with volatile assets when talking about profit. Bitcoin is for the masses stocks needs a lot of centralized shit just to buy a share. Up and doens in Bitcoin will always be an opportunity if you are an investor same with stocks but if you can invest on both then that is a wise idea.

Just to remind you since you obviously have a very short memory. You wrote this earlier this year:


Butt-hurt for selling early?  ;D

Comparing stocks and bitcoin makes no sense to me. For the first time in our life we have the opportunity to openly participate, invest and contribute in one of the most exciting project the world has ever seen and what we can do best is comparing it to stocks? Come on, you guys have really no idea about what bitcoin stands for.
Don't get fooled by the asset evaluation but go for the big picture. There's nothing like it on the horizon.
/s on Maybe only Dogecoin. /s off

OP is not jealous, in my opinion OP is just a troll that gets off by rousing negative emotions among the people, doesn't matter if the topic is right or wrong as long as people are getting worked up over it, OP thrives on it. The best thing to do is to put this dude on your ignore list and if that is a bother to you too then try not to get riled up by OP's post. Remember that this user got nominated for some negative thing on the Meta board about worthless posts. OP won't be better, OP will thrive on being bitter.
If that is what we have thought of back then, I think that we would all be millionaires by now but no, we did not know that bitcoin will get its prices this big to the point that institutional investors are considering investing and even getting involved.
Like bitcoin and cryptocurrency market, stock market will bounce back, the crash of Wall Street happened a long time ago and a lot of Black Days has happened. The real enemy is not stock market, it is the people that are manipulating it, it will go to toilet because most of them get rich because of it, remember the shorting of Gamestop that resulted in a backfire. I don't agree most of the time in investing being never too late because investing in something requires a lot of time but we are talking about bitcoin market here that could go up in a 3-4 years time so I certainly agree that it is not too late.

Stop spreading FUD, you have no idea what Bitcoin really is and what potential it has. To claim at this point that we have reached some maximum and that things will go downhill is completely stupid. Bitcoin is at the beginning of a bull run, and you’re talking about some kind of bear market?

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You hit the very center of the target, and I agree that it would be best to ignore it or report its threads as "low quality posting".

I don't think these two markets are comparable because they have their own upside and downside. It doesn't necessarily mean on which market is more profitable because the rewards will still depend on how you will handle your trade like if you are more knowledgeable on the Crypto market then that would be much better for but if you are a stock market guy then go for it, it doesn't need to be compared.


Bitcoin may be topped out for a very long time until the next halving but it doesn't necessarily mean it's over because just like Bitcoin, the stock market wasn't always in good condition.

Just like what I mentioned, Gamestop may be surging up right now but it will not be always like that and if will look at Bitcoin as well, it will not always be in a bull run because there will be a time it will run into a correction.

Yeah, you are right there are hundreds of stocks ready to reach the moon out there and so for crypto which tons of alts could also lift off to the moon.

Don't you understand that such a growth is characteristic of the world of cryptocurrencies and this is yet another and this proves that the stock market wants to do the same. He tasted the fruits of bitcoin.

Btc is much better than stock market and you must know without knowledge buying stocks one can end up in huge loss and we should not rely on others prediction. Crypto and stock market both are different in nature and in my opinion Btc is a precious Gem as compare to stocks. I think you are underestimating Btc.

Actually stock market is like also investing in bitcoin, but it is more opportunity to have this coin because you will earn more money and we already saw there is more people who earn a huge money with small investment only. I believe there is a special in bitcoin because if there is no have people are stop investing but look now they are keeping investing and it will going to rise more the price if that happen but stock market is good opportunity also and you will invest to stock but need to learn first before you go.

Investing in the stock market or bitcoin is both good and can be profitable if you really control the market. Bitcoin is not a dead market because it has reached a new ATH and the price is already high. Bitcoin still has many investors and will never be left out. Nowadays the stock market is also growing in popularity and is starting to compete with bitcoin. Bitcoin is not special for some people, but for people who are in crypto bitcoin is very popular and more than special. Bitcoin can make a difference to the world.

Sorry, but if there wasn't anything special about bitcoin there wouldn't be so many people engaged on this crypto universe, including big investors who are bringing institutional money, more visible since the beginning of this bull run. There are many big players migrating to crypto currency and buying large chunks of bitcoin right now because they already know it's unstoppable and although there is a lot of bad news and impressions about bitcoin on the media it's not enough to stop the digital currency's potential.

So much negativity regards bitcoin at this point doesn't make sense, but you are free to think this way and to be happy in stock market.

What bear market? Bitcoin used to trade for 40k, now it's trading for 30k. 3 months ago it was 10 k and 3 months from now it can be 50k. A bear market is a prolonged situation. You can't say an asset is in a bear market when it hasn't even been a month since ATH and the price is still higher than it was 2 months ago. If you don't like Bitcoin you're free to invest in other things, I'm very happy with my choices.

It's a matter of investor's preference, there really no need to degrade the other one just because you are seeing stock market better than this industry. Some people will say profit is bigger in this industry than in stock market. But the fact is that, it does depend on how an investor will make things possible. Stock market is more predicatable than cryptocurrencies, in my opinion. But I still have crypto investment simply because i have my own reasons to do so. There's really no need to compare, what matters the most is to how will you come up with bigger profit. It could be crypto or stock market alone, could also be a combination of two.

Then why you're here on the first place? If you do love stocks then go ahead but people on this forum do came here on supporting Crypto.Both are different markets and
if you do find out that Stocks is better than on this market then you are free to live, you can have your own jurisdiction or views and no one will be stopping you on that.
Market here is way too volatile and yes, this is more riskier than Stocks but the possible reward or profits that you can make is much more better compared
that you can possibly generate in stocks or forex. If you dont like that kind of property or shall we say in terms of price movement then you can opt to leave
anytime.

It is kinda ironic how you made yourself discuss it here when you seems to be also a user and believer of cryptocurrency at the first place because if not, surely you will not make yourself in here. Also, better respect other people's decision whether which one they would like to put their money in rather than justifying your thoughts that Bitcoin is dead and seems nothing special about it. Better not invalidate other people's free will of choosing just to agree on you. Both crypto and stock market are good and it is up to the individual on which one he would choose to be with. Also it is too early for the conclusion that Bitcoin will be long to stay in the bear market and that it will no longer exceed its former ATH record because no one exactly know what could happen.

You deserve such speculation, and we are entitled to the future growth of bitcoin, and we will prove it. because the position of the stock exchange and bitcoin will be a relatively clear comparison at a later date.

Indeed, there's no special in stock market too, it just that in crypto coins are very volatile other than that nothing, they common but I like crypto more than stock market. I do have stock market coins and Forex actually, but I feel more challenge in crypto and I earn more in crypto, not because I can have a gain in just a minute or weeks but because it's volatility that I am playing with, we should learn to take every chances and every opportunity that came in our way.

I don't know what the real reason you are against Bitcoin is so negative, but if you do the analysis correctly Bitcoin's performance is extraordinary.
Even Bitcoin is helping the world economy by creating new riches this year, maybe you are upset not to buy Bitcoin when the price is cheap. So creating
a negative topic that wants to bring down Bitcoin, I appreciate your opinion. But now information is easy to get, so everyone can also judge that Bitcoin is
a very profitable investment right now.

I read the same FUD in 2018, and yet today, the price is 65% up the previous ATH.

Bitcoin has much better APY than any other asses in the past 10 years. Period.

If you don't like it, just pass.

OP needs to get his facts straight.

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