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Title: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 01, 2021, 10:02:05 AM
I accidentally sent my binance usdt to my abra's btc address.
I've tried to the bip39 tool to recover my private keys (I have abra's wallet seed)
But the problem is bip39 tool doesn't show my bitcoin address
I've heard that abra uses custom derivation path.
I've contacted the abra team but no responce
This is the tix id: https://www.omniexplorer.info/tx/b336d7f5ffcfcf9d32442cb0a8e56e417ae0977683190bd60fbf36d1b3bd611e


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: mk4 on February 01, 2021, 10:09:11 AM
As far as I know there's no wallet where you can simply just import your Abra wallet's private keys and you would be able to access your funds. If my memory serves me right Abra's CEO said in an interview in the past that if it's the case that they needed to suddenly shut down, they would release a custom made wallet where people could import their Abra wallet's private keys.

Unfortunately you're going to really need Abra's customer support here. And knowing that the big exchanges are having problems with the inflows of new registrations, probably expect Abra to have the same problem so their support is probably packed.

P.S. Make this be a lesson to not be so careless with moving funds.


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on February 01, 2021, 10:10:17 AM
Not sure If you can recovered that. Since usdt is supported by blockchain but too far to be close to bitcoin blockchain. There is tron, binance chain, erc20 and omni but I'm wondering how the process would succeed even with different blockchain used. But indeed it was accepted based on the address it is legacy address of bitcoin you have used. Curious if this will work or abra can managed returning your fund. Hope you could get that amount it's quite big.


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: passwordnow on February 01, 2021, 10:12:50 AM
How many times you've contacted them? sorry but that mistake, no one can help you into it but only Abra if they truly have a solution for it. Did you reach them with their other contacts?
https://support.abra.com/hc/en-us/articles/216665658-How-can-I-contact-you-


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 01, 2021, 10:14:26 AM
Not sure If you can recovered that. Since usdt is supported by blockchain but too far to be close to bitcoin blockchain. There is tron, binance chain, erc20 and omni but I'm wondering how the process would succeed even with different blockchain used. But indeed it was accepted based on the address it is legacy address of bitcoin you have used. Curious if this will work or abra can managed returning your fund. Hope you could get that amount it's quite big.

I've scanned my wallet address in omniwallet it says that I have current balance in my usdt.
But I could not transfer it since I can't get my private keys


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 01, 2021, 10:25:04 AM
How many times you've contacted them? sorry but that mistake, no one can help you into it but only Abra if they truly have a solution for it. Did you reach them with their other contacts?
https://support.abra.com/hc/en-us/articles/216665658-How-can-I-contact-you-

Yup. I emailed them several times in all of their contact information but I always get an automatic response


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: Charles-Tim on February 01, 2021, 10:38:06 AM
As far as I know there's no wallet where you can simply just import your Abra wallet's private keys and you would be able to access your funds.
I have just created Abras wallet now, it generated me 12 words seed phrase. Which means the tether is not lost and can still be accessed by migs360. All he need is to try out the seed phrase on wallet that supported USDt because Abra's wallet is not supporting USDt.

I confirmed that the seed phrase is BIP39 on iancoleman.io, the tool generated me the root seed, the extenteded private key and the extenteded public key for the seed phrase generated on Abra's wallet.

I've contacted the abra team but no responce
You do not need to contact Abra's support team because the transaction was successful.

I've scanned my wallet address in omniwallet it says that I have current balance in my usdt.
But I could not transfer it since I can't get my private keys
I will not recommend coinomi because it is close source, but in this case, I will advice you to use coinomi for the recovery. Import your Abra's wallet seed phrase on Coinomi, you tether balance will appear. Try that and tell us if you see your USDt. According to your txid, the address start from 1, which means importing your Abra's seed phrase on Coinomi will make your USDt appear on Coinomi, and you can spent it if you like.



Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 01, 2021, 10:41:13 AM
As far as I know there's no wallet where you can simply just import your Abra wallet's private keys and you would be able to access your funds.
I have just created Abras wallet now, it generated me 12 words seed phrase. Which means the tether is not lost and can still be accessed by migs360. All he need is to try out the seed phrase on wallet that supported USDt because Abra's wallet is not supporting USDt.

I confirmed that the seed phrase is BIP39 on iancoleman.io, the tool generated me the root seed, the extenteded private key and the extenteded public key for the seed phrase generated on Abra's wallet.

I've contacted the abra team but no responce
You do not need to contact Abra's support team because the transaction was successful.

I've scanned my wallet address in omniwallet it says that I have current balance in my usdt.
But I could not transfer it since I can't get my private keys
I will not recommend coinomi because it is close source, but in this case, I will advice you to use coinomi for the recovery. Import your Abra's wallet seed phrase on Coinomi, you tether balance will appear. Try that iand tell us if you see the balance. According to your txid, the address start from 1, which means importing your Abra's seed phrase on Coinomi will make your USDt appear on Coinomi, and you can spent it.



I've tried it awhile ago. I tried to input my abra's seed wallet. But unfortunately the amount appeared on coinomi is zero. Even my exisiting funds on other alt coins is not reflected on coinomi


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: Charles-Tim on February 01, 2021, 10:58:05 AM
I've tried it awhile ago. I tried to input my abra's seed wallet. But unfortunately the amount appeared on coinomi is zero. Even my exisiting funds on other alt coins is not reflected on coinomi
That means mk4 is right, then Abra's wallet is not a good wallet, you should make sure to send USDt to the wallets that support the USDt next time, a single mistake can make your coin lost forever.

But, should I tell you how you can extract out your legacy address from thee seed pjhrase to try it if it will work?


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 01, 2021, 11:15:39 AM
I've tried it awhile ago. I tried to input my abra's seed wallet. But unfortunately the amount appeared on coinomi is zero. Even my exisiting funds on other alt coins is not reflected on coinomi
That means mk4 is right, then Abra's wallet is not a good wallet, you should make sure to send USDt to the wallets that support the USDt next time, a single mistake can make your coin lost forever.

But, should I tell you how you can extract out your legacy address from thee seed pjhrase to try it if it will work?

Do you have any idea how can I extract it?


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: Charles-Tim on February 01, 2021, 11:25:48 AM
Do you have any idea how can I extract it?
Go to iamcoleman
https://iancoleman.io/bip39/

Scroll down the tool to see how you can use it offline.

Then, if offline, you will set the seed word from 15 to 12, I believe Abra's wallet generate 12 seed words for you. Or set it the the one you have with you.

Then, input the seed phrase into  BIP39 Mnemonic space provided by the tool. Then the derivation paths will automatically be generated. And scroll down.

The Derivation Path will be BIP44 automatically, which is the derivation part for legacy addresses. If not set to BIP44, then click on BIP44.

Scroll down to copy the Account Extended Private Key.

You can import it on USDt supported wallet, and let us know if it works.

Do not do this online, it is not safe. Do it offline.


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: Lucius on February 01, 2021, 11:38:24 AM
migs360, a similar situation happened to another member, fortunately he managed to regain possession of his BTC with the help of another member. The only difference is that you use another wallet, and you probably can't find your private key because Abra uses some derivation path that is unknown to you.

Check this thread for more help, and do not send your seed to anyone.

Accidentally sent USDT Omnia from Binance to Bread (BRD wallet) BTC Address (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308843.0)


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: akirasendo17 on February 01, 2021, 11:42:09 AM
I think they have a policy that if you have sent it to a wrong address like BTC or in a chain Tron or erc20 for example, they will not be liable, and at the same time it will be lost, there is a note below when you are going to get the USDT address, I'm afraid you will not be able to recover that, next time make sure to double-check triple check the address, but if there is a way, I would like also to know so that if ever I also made a mistake I can learn also how to get it, if ever


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 01, 2021, 11:44:34 AM
Do you have any idea how can I extract it?
Go to iamcoleman
https://iancoleman.io/bip39/

Scroll down the tool to see how you can use it offline.

Then, if offline, you will set the seed word from 15 to 12, I believe Abra's wallet generate 12 seed words for you. Or set it the the one you have with you.

Then, input the seed phrase into  BIP39 Mnemonic space provided by the tool. Then the derivation paths will automatically be generated. And scroll down.

The Derivation Path will be BIP44 automatically, which is the derivation part for legacy addresses. If not set to BIP44, then click on BIP44.

Scroll down to copy the Account Extended Private Key.

You can import it on USDt supported wallet, and let us know if it works.

Do not do this online, it is not safe. Do it offline.

It says thats unkown key format


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: cheezcarls on February 01, 2021, 12:16:28 PM
I accidentally sent my binance usdt to my abra's btc address.
I've tried to the bip39 tool to recover my private keys (I have abra's wallet seed)
But the problem is bip39 tool doesn't show my bitcoin address
I've heard that abra uses custom derivation path.
I've contacted the abra team but no responce
This is the tix id: https://www.omniexplorer.info/tx/b336d7f5ffcfcf9d32442cb0a8e56e417ae0977683190bd60fbf36d1b3bd611e


The thing is you should have triple checked the receiving address before sending. This is one of the common mistakes of sending from wallet to wallet, or exchange to wallet, etc. Since it’s an Abra wallet, so it’s a USDT20 address (and it always starts with 0x). BTC addresses usually starts with 1 or 3 as it’s first character.

Accident or no accident, this is a lesson that you should learn. Always triple (or more) check or verify before sending. I’m sure that they are not going to be liable for your losses once you made a mistake in sending to a wrong type of coin or token address.


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: Lucius on February 01, 2021, 01:45:14 PM
akirasendo17 & cheezcarls , OP is in possession of his Abra backup (13 words seed) so nothing is lost, he just needs to find a way to get the private key from that address to which the USDT is sent.

migs360, I suggest you contact @yogg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308843.msg56094362#msg56094362), and I'm pretty sure he can help you. This is a specific situation, and members who don't read at all can't help you - as long as you have a seed, I believe you have a great chance of finding a solution.


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 01, 2021, 02:04:25 PM
akirasendo17 & cheezcarls , OP is in possession of his Abra backup (13 words seed) so nothing is lost, he just needs to find a way to get the private key from that address to which the USDT is sent.

migs360, I suggest you contact @yogg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308843.msg56094362#msg56094362), and I'm pretty sure he can help you. This is a specific situation, and members who don't read at all can't help you - as long as you have a seed, I believe you have a great chance of finding a solution.

Thank you so much. Do you know the telegram of @yogg? I can't message him since I have a limit of 1 message per hour


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: Charles-Tim on February 01, 2021, 02:10:03 PM
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This got me confused too as I told migs360 to get the private key using iamcoleman but said he is unable to do that. If you check my first posts up here, immediately I saw this topic, I generated Abra's wallet and I was given the 12 words seed phrase, I used it offline on iancoleman and it generated me the seed and the extended private key which I believe it can be used. But migs360 is saying another thing which I believe either he has lost his seed phrase or inputting a wrong seed phrase. I believe only using the seed phrase will also work on wallets like Coinomi, he said it did not work too. He needs to truly contact yogg for further assistance.

Thank you so much. Do you know the telegram of @yogg? I can't message him since I have a limit of 1 message per hour
Do not contact wrong person, make sure you contact him using Bitcointalk PM. This is yogg profile link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140827


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 01, 2021, 03:43:23 PM
Update: Contacted @yogg in Telegram. But no luck since abra doesn't give us the correct derivation path.


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: OasisDre on February 01, 2021, 04:42:05 PM
It's going to be a lot of work but it's possible to recover the bitcoin if you are a pro iancoleman user, I don't know if you will be able to find someone who can help you but make sure they are someone you can trust before giving up your recovery seed


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 01, 2021, 04:58:55 PM
I really need to know what is the custom derivation path that abra's using. I tried many path but the btc address that abra gave me didn't match in the list


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 01, 2021, 08:49:46 PM
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This got me confused too as I told migs360 to get the private key using iamcoleman but said he is unable to do that. If you check my first posts up here, immediately I saw this topic, I generated Abra's wallet and I was given the 12 words seed phrase, I used it offline on iancoleman and it generated me the seed and the extended private key which I believe it can be used. But migs360 is saying another thing which I believe either he has lost his seed phrase or inputting a wrong seed phrase. I believe only using the seed phrase will also work on wallets like Coinomi, he said it did not work too. He needs to truly contact yogg for further assistance.

Thank you so much. Do you know the telegram of @yogg? I can't message him since I have a limit of 1 message per hour
Do not contact wrong person, make sure you contact him using Bitcointalk PM. This is yogg profile link:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140827

Abra wallet seed is a 13 word phrase but if you remove "at" at the beginning it will be the standard  BIP39 mnemonic.
The problem is iamcoleman tool generated a different private keys because abra's using a custom derivation path.


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: Charles-Tim on February 01, 2021, 09:08:34 PM
Abra wallet seed is a 13 word phrase but if you remove "at" at the beginning it will be the standard  BIP39 mnemonic.
The problem is iamcoleman tool generated a different private keys because abra's using a custom derivation path.
Do not mind them, it is 12. If the first word start with at, just ignore it. Then write the other 12.

When I created the wallet for experiment today, this was the seed phrase generated:

at mention country giant rice boss people bid asset boring midnight wise begin

I know it will be 12, and iamcoleman tool indicated no 'at' in BIP39 seed phrase. Just neglect 'at', if there.

Please, do not share your seed phrase with anyone. This one is used for my research purpose today.


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 01, 2021, 09:18:52 PM
Abra wallet seed is a 13 word phrase but if you remove "at" at the beginning it will be the standard  BIP39 mnemonic.
The problem is iamcoleman tool generated a different private keys because abra's using a custom derivation path.
Do not mind them, it is 12. If the first word start with at, just ignore it. Then write the other 12.

When I created the wallet for experiment today, this was the seed phrase generated:

at mention country giant rice boss people bid asset boring midnight wise begin

I know it will be 12, and iamcoleman tool indicated no 'at' in BIP39 seed phrase. Just neglect 'at', if there.

Please, do not share your seed phrase with anyone. This one is used for my research purpose today.

Yup. I have correct seed phrase
This from our coversation from @yogg
https://ibb.co/0DRWCSK
https://ibb.co/9VxsGj7
https://ibb.co/hWfL1hd


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: Charles-Tim on February 01, 2021, 09:25:14 PM
Yup. I have correct seed phrase
This from our coversation from @yogg https://imageupload.io/jLqaJt8Qyg.i
So sorry about that, that means you will need to contact Abra's customer care, if they can recover your tether for you. But, using reputed wallet next time would be better. And, also know that we should make sure we send to the right address, not the wrong one, because a single mistake might lead to coin permanent loss.


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 01, 2021, 10:32:01 PM
Can someone help me to recover my usdt tether? I'll give a commision.


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: Yogee on February 02, 2021, 05:13:07 AM
Can someone help me to recover my usdt tether?
Did you not get a response from Abra customer service yet? Continue to ask help in all their social media channels. They are your best shot.

Quote
I'll give a commision.
Someone may take your offer since there's a reward involved but don't entertain just anyone who sends you a private message. Perhaps you can also offer this to Abra CS so they'll expedite your request  ;)


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 02, 2021, 07:07:15 AM
Can someone help me to recover my usdt tether?
Did you not get a response from Abra customer service yet? Continue to ask help in all their social media channels. They are your best shot.

Quote
I'll give a commision.
Someone may take your offer since there's a reward involved but don't entertain just anyone who sends you a private message. Perhaps you can also offer this to Abra CS so they'll expedite your request  ;)

Still no luck there customer supports sucks


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: yogg on February 05, 2021, 12:30:27 AM
Hey there o/

It was a pleasure to chat with you migs. :)

I tried my fairest shot to help out migs360.
However, I believe that only with Abra's input, he'll be able to find the correct settings for the iancoleman's page.
(So he can use the privkey on the omni chain, yada yada ...)

Something strange : you need to open an account in order to use the wallet. Mycelium doesn't do that. Coinomi doesn't do that.
Given the use of the extra word "at", place at the very beginning of their seeds, this brings some more questions to me.

It'd be possible for Abra to make their wallet/seed "somewhat" proprietary.
They could store the derivation path on their server, in the user's account.
Simple way to make sure that someone with an Abra wallet will always have to use their Abra wallet.

Sure, Abra doesn't store the keys nor the seed on their server, but since it's proprietary, we can fathom anything about it.

This was the 1st time I heard about the Abra wallet, and I strongly advice against it.
Use standard software, open source software.


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: migs360 on February 06, 2021, 05:30:47 PM
Thank you so much yogg!


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: aemma on February 10, 2021, 08:05:48 PM
Even before withdrawing, Binance will also warn to be careful of where you are withdrawing to because it can be very hard to recover the asset if sent to a wrong wallet address. Bitcoin blockchain is different from USDT, and moreover USDT is supported by many blockchains now such as Tron, Omini, Ethereum, and even EOS in some exchanges, therefore how this issue will be solved is what anyone can hardly tell, because the mare looking at it, it looks complicated. However, you can continue contacting ABRA customer service to hear from them, at least, it doesn't cost anything to contact them, therefore continue sending them mail until they respond. Sorry about that.


Title: Re: ACCIDENTALLY SENT MY BINANCE USDT TO ABRA'S BTC
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on February 11, 2021, 01:26:44 AM
I was looking through Abra's website and apparently they have transitioned to become a custodial wallet. They are using Bittrex as their custodian.

The seed phrase they give you only allows you to recover access to your custodial account but I do not believe it is used for generating deposit addresses.

You can read this article for more information: https://support.abra.com/hc/en-us/articles/360040834752-Native-Coin-Migration