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Title: flipflops and facepalms noted in trump impeachment Post by: franky1 on February 09, 2021, 10:23:15 PM so lets list all the mixed messages, hyocracies and general nonsense said in trumps impeachment
ill start with one david Schoen (trumps defence lawyer) "the constitution says only the currently sitting president can be impeached, and the only punishment is to leave the office of president." (facepalm) nope the constitution says president, vice president and civil officer. also the punishment is leave office, and not sit any future office it does not say 'past/present/future' trump still hold title of 'president' trump(in title,, not function) like people still say 'president lincoln' over 100 years after so. with trump titling himself as still the current president(double nailing his own coffin) with trump still having office honours, privilege and access to special government provision like: national security intelligence meetings secret service protection .. it must also be highlighted that if it were so easy to avoid impeachment by just resigning. then anyone getting impeached would resign, thus making impeachment moot. Title: Re: flipflops and facepalms noted in trump impeachment Post by: squatz1 on February 10, 2021, 01:55:17 AM Punishment of impeachment isn’t directly being disqualified from public office, that’s a portion that has to be added and voted on by the Senate as a whole as well. I read some story sometime ago about a federal judge who was impeached by the Senate but was able to run for another federal office because the Senate never added the disqualification portion.
Here’s a source on that: Unlike removal, disqualification from office is a discretionary judgment, and there is no explicit constitutional linkage to the two-thirds vote on conviction. Although an argument can be made that disqualification should nonetheless require a two-thirds vote,855 the Senate has determined that disqualification may be accomplished by a simple majority vote.856 But yeah, I’ll agree with the fact that Trumps defense was 100% bullshit. Nothing more and nothing less. I understand why the turnover rate was so high and why this guy was a last minute choice..... |