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Title: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: The Cryptovator on February 28, 2021, 04:42:09 PM
During visits, the Bitcoin Discussion board found a thread where a spammer advertising his eight referral links (https://archive.is/flbmg). But I was surprised when seeing a few users including Hero/Legendary replying there where they should report the thread since advertising referrals links via forum posts are prohibited according to forum rules. Even no one warning OP on their replies that promoting referral links isn't allowed on the forum. I can confirm anyone hadn't used the report button those had been replied to that thread since my report marked good.

I am creating this thread to remind our minimum liability for the forum. Everyone replied there just filling their weekly quotas for the signature campaign. So since we are earning something from the forum just by engaging with discussion, isn't their minimum liability. Can't even we spend 10 sec to help moderators keep this forum clean and usable for us?

I apologize if I hurt someone by creating this thread, it wasn't my intention. Just want to remind the liability. Hope at least we will put minimum effort to prevent such as spams.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: hatshepsut93 on February 28, 2021, 04:50:41 PM
I can confirm anyone hadn't used the report button those had been replied to that thread since my report marked good.

Your report is marked as good if it leads to a moderator action. Everyone who reported the post gets it, regardless if they replied in the thread or not.

Everyone replied there just filling their weekly quotas for the signature campaign.

This isn't just posting of sig campaign, it's complete laziness and lack of understanding of this forum. Such posts almost always get deleted, so their sig campaign posts get deleted too. It can even bite them in the ass if they will fail to meet their weekly quota because of deleted posts.

Just want to remind the liability. Hope at least we will put minimum effort to prevent such as spams.

Agree, users should report spam and avoid engaging with it. Unless it's something malicious, then it can be good to leave a warning for newbies to not follow any links.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on February 28, 2021, 05:08:50 PM
As we can see, the post is coming from a newbie account but, we can't say the user is completely a newbie following the fact that, he or she is already familiar with some ways to earn and posting techniques of the forum but still hides under the shades of ignorance to spam the forum with referral links.
Of a truth, not that this things aren't been noticed as per posts but, the duty of reporting has been left to only but a few as it seems far too hateful to report a fellow user but this shouldn't be the case. Other users are scared because, it might just be a ranked up users account and can only hope not to be attacked by some other ranked up users.
So, reporting becomes a problem most especially, to the beginners still looking to rank up.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: bitmover on February 28, 2021, 05:29:30 PM
During visits, the Bitcoin Discussion board found a thread where a spammer advertising his eight referral links (https://archive.is/flbmg).

When I see a post like this, I often try to report it fast to increase my report posts count :)
Maybe some day we will get a badge or something for 1000, 2000, 3000 reports.

And as hatshepsut93 said, it is useless to post in a thread like that because your post will be deleted. Which will also increase your "post deleted by moderator" count.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: Evilish on February 28, 2021, 05:46:24 PM
Users just don't care in general because there's no incentive to report posts, yet there is an incentive to boost post counts. See where I am going with this?

I do try to report posts every now and then when I see posts violating rules and everyone should be doing this imo to keep this place as clean from spam as possible.

Your report is marked as good if it leads to a moderator action. Everyone who reported the post gets it, regardless if they replied in the thread or not.

A post can only be reported once. I think OP meant that they were able to report the post, meaning no one prior to them reported the said post.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: NeuroticFish on February 28, 2021, 06:08:04 PM
But I was surprised when seeing a few users including Hero/Legendary replying there where they should report the thread

I did report that thread at first sight. And by the numbers I'm not one of the best reporters. And yes, I've seen later on the first replies coming.

Now, on a not so "fighting" note, sometimes those newbies may need to see a first answer telling them they are doing it wrong (and I was sooo close to reply and tell that he should not do this again...)
All in all, don't think everything so "black and white", sometimes the truth can be in the middle, although in this case you are certainly right: all the current replies seem focused on how useless the faucets are instead of telling that OP was breaking the rules and his post will get removed.

A post can only be reported once.

I think that a post can be reported once by one account, since my report for this same post also tells it was a good report.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: NotATether on February 28, 2021, 07:51:35 PM
I am creating this thread to remind our minimum liability for the forum. Everyone replied there just filling their weekly quotas for the signature campaign. So since we are earning something from the forum just by engaging with discussion, isn't their minimum liability. Can't even we spend 10 sec to help moderators keep this forum clean and usable for us?

There is an easy solution for that. Report the entire thread for having referral link spam in the OP, and then everyone's posts get deleted too, as was apparently done to your reference thread. That should discourage sig wearers from replying on them.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: Harlot on February 28, 2021, 08:07:12 PM
Although I won't say it as a "liability" I think it is only proper to do so since it is technically part of a good forum etiquette that if we follow and abide rules by ourselves we must also enforce it in a way we can and that is either reporting the post or reminding the poster about the forum rules he/she is currently breaking. Tbh I don't know why his post wasn't deleted when you saw it but judging by its title and the members who have posted it I think these kinds of topics is something the is less click by people who already know that it is a waste of their time so that is maybe the reason why it only attracted some members who probably aren't aware of the forum rules as well.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: robelneo on March 01, 2021, 03:28:10 AM
You don't have to apologize for reminding old members of their responsibility, you are right on that thread no one point out to OP that it's not allowed by the forum to post referrals links, it could have been a good discussion if only for those referral links, obviously that thread was created to promote OP faucets and generate views and leads, and it's not even in the right section.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: Igebotz on March 01, 2021, 03:28:36 AM
These other guys are spamming the gambling section with links every day for the sake of completing their weekly quota for the signature campaign, all they do is copy and paste in different gambling threads.
ILuckyGuyI (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1385147)

Juggy777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=913593)
They contribute nothing apart from stealing people's work and put it some kind of danm link

Everyone replied there just filling their weekly quotas for the signature campaign


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: Upgrade00 on March 01, 2021, 08:40:14 AM
A post can only be reported once. I think OP meant that they were able to report the post, meaning no one prior to them reported the said post.
A post can be reported multiple times as long as it is not yet deleted. If a mod takes action, all accurate reports linked to it would get marked as good.

I think that a post can be reported once by one account, since my report for this same post also tells it was a good report.
A post should be reported only once, but it can be reported more than once by one account. If you send out duplicate reports one would likely be marked as bad. But if you make 2 unique reports on one post, such as spamming and plagiarism, they would both be handled differently.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: acroman08 on March 01, 2021, 11:37:08 AM
During visits, the Bitcoin Discussion board found a thread where a spammer advertising his eight referral links (https://archive.is/flbmg). But I was surprised when seeing a few users including Hero/Legendary replying there where they should report the thread since advertising referrals links via forum posts are prohibited according to forum rules. Even no one warning OP on their replies that promoting referral links isn't allowed on the forum. I can confirm anyone hadn't used the report button those had been replied to that thread since my report marked good.

I am creating this thread to remind our minimum liability for the forum. Everyone replied there just filling their weekly quotas for the signature campaign. So since we are earning something from the forum just by engaging with discussion, isn't their minimum liability. Can't even we spend 10 sec to help moderators keep this forum clean and usable for us?

I apologize if I hurt someone by creating this thread, it wasn't my intention. Just want to remind the liability. Hope at least we will put minimum effort to prevent such as spams.
I doubt someone is hurt. guilty? yes(or maybe not), the members who posted there have been around the forum for a while now. they knew the post has referral links and will be deleted yet they continued to post. I am not saying I haven't done this before and had my fair share of posts being deleted/trashed along with the thread but there is no need to apologize for reminding them on what was better thing to do rather than posting on that thread trying to complete their weekly sig campaign quota. good for you for letting them know about it.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: Lucius on March 01, 2021, 11:39:08 AM
I have to admit that it seems strange for some older members to behave like this, because they should know that such a thread will be deleted very quickly and that any discussion makes no sense. Maybe it makes sense to warn someone that what he is doing is against the rules of the forum - for the reason that he understands why his thread was deleted and not to repeat the same mistake.



I am creating this thread to remind our minimum liability for the forum.

It's always a good reminder, because anyone can contribute to making the forum a better place even with one report a day - mods mostly work on user reports, and we should all be interested in doing our part of the job. I think the biggest problem is that some people aren't used to doing something for free - so they probably look at reports as a waste of time.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 01, 2021, 02:27:04 PM
Perhaps such reminders should be created regularly. It is also helpful to periodically read the existing rules. I also see a lot of violations that most simply don't react to. We are called "reporters" and then they write to  PM about what kind of bad people we are. Sometimes the opinion arises that the forum is divided into good and bad users.  However, we are in the same boat, and we must not forget how generous this forum is. And this is not only earnings but for the most part the availability of huge information to gain knowledge.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: LTU_btc on March 01, 2021, 11:35:55 PM
Why to report when you can post and get paid for it? But now when topic is trashed by mods, it means that these users just wasted their time to make these posts :D.
I have to admit that I'm quite lazy to report shitposts and similar stuff. But when I see someone posting referral links, I report it immediately. As said above, it's easy way to increase count of reports :D.

I apologize if I hurt someone by creating this thread, it wasn't my intention.
You don't have to apologize for it. If someone got offended because of this, it's their fault.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: libert19 on March 02, 2021, 06:01:34 AM
..Other users are scared because, it might just be a ranked up users account and can only hope not to be attacked by some other ranked up users..

How does that work? If anyone reports something it stays between the reporter and the mod.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: nakamura12 on March 02, 2021, 09:12:43 PM
In my own understanding, you didn't hurt anyone from creating this thread. It is only right that you should created this thread to remind other people that we should help to report posts or threads that promotes referral links which is prohibited by the forum according to the forum rules.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: orions.belt19 on March 03, 2021, 05:11:07 AM
It's really sad that it seems like other members don't really care so they don't even bother in reporting these kind of posts, leaving everything up to the mods. I was scared at first of using to report moderator button because I might be misreporting a post but when I found out that it will be up to the mods' discretion, I try to do what I can.

Since we're currently in a bull market, its not going to be a surprise to see more and more of these kinds of posts as more members try to participate in signature/bounty campaigns. There's really no harm in participating in these campaigns - what's problematic is the people who try to cheat these campaigns by increasing their post counts thus resulting to poor quality content.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on March 03, 2021, 07:28:47 AM
These other guys are spamming the gambling section with links every day for the sake of completing their weekly quota for the signature campaign, all they do is copy and paste in different gambling threads.
ILuckyGuyI (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1385147)

Although I don't engage myself in the gambling section as much as I did in the past, I have comes across this user posting habbit as a result of me been his campaign manager. The reason I haven't taken any action is because well he isn't breaking any forum rules. The says, no plagiarising, that's copying and claiming of someone else works as yours, the accused isn't doing that as he included links in all the posts he got from external sources.

We can argue his post aren't much of a quality since most times , he doesn't add any genuine thought to his topic but just copy paste all from the site. Users on that board can stop engaging in his posts and probably he'll get the hints his topic aren't worth discussing since they don't have genuine thoughts but on the other hand, that's the gambling board, majority of discussion on the board has a lot to do with external sources like sports news media etc still though he's overdoing his.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: Igebotz on March 03, 2021, 09:34:56 AM
These other guys are spamming the gambling section with links every day for the sake of completing their weekly quota for the signature campaign, all they do is copy and paste in different gambling threads.
ILuckyGuyI (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1385147)

I have comes across this user posting habbit as a result of me been his campaign manager. The reason I haven't taken any action is because well he isn't breaking any forum rules. The says, no plagiarising, that's copying and claiming of someone else works as yours, the accused isn't doing that as he included links in all the posts he got from external sources.
Not breaking the rules does not mean he should misused it to his own selfish advantage, hyperlinks are dangerous to any site, this user provides at least 40+ links weekly. This user could easily insert a phishing link without us knowing.

Spam such as referrals.Doesn't count towards your eligible payment posts.
Against the campaign rules.

Users on that board can stop engaging in his posts and probably he'll get the hints his topic aren't worth discussing
This is not the solution as the user in question does not care, he only care about what his manager counts.




Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on March 03, 2021, 09:53:19 AM
Spam such as referrals.Doesn't count towards your eligible payment posts.
Against the campaign rules.

Spam as referral link, those aren't referral link buddy those are source link. Beside I believe the interpretation to that rules has to do with users just spamming their referral link all around the forum mostly one liner comments that consist of just the referral link. Although I'm not in support of what the user is doing but provided he isn't violating any forum rules there's nothing I can do.

I can't denied him the right to earn when he hasn't violated either the campaign or forum rules. If you have any evidence of that then send me a DM with link and he'll be penalized. I understand your concern and I'll contact the accuser to amend his posting habbit. Further decisions would be considered when he continues in his bad posting habbit after been warned.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: ILuckyGuyI on March 04, 2021, 03:42:35 PM
These other guys are spamming the gambling section with links every day for the sake of completing their weekly quota for the signature campaign, all they do is copy and paste in different gambling threads.
ILuckyGuyI (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1385147)

Juggy777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=913593)
They contribute nothing apart from stealing people's work and put it some kind of danm link

Hello. I don't mean to 'spam' with my posts in the gambling discussion section. I was just making match analyses and sharing my opinions about how they could end etc. . The links I shared on my posts are my sources for injury information and statistics for the matches so that everyone also can check it out there. If this is seen as 'spam', then I will stop doing this. Besides I have no intention of stealing anyone's work. These are just websites that you can find match results, injury information etc. . Please be careful before accusing someone of a bad thing.  :)


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 04, 2021, 08:56:45 PM
I mean, I understand that people are trying their best to meet their weekly post quota but they should focus more on contributing/posting on topics that make sense. Replying in a spam post that contains referral links (which is prohibited) should be reported immediately. It is kinda sad to see that most high ranking members take this for granted just for the sake of completing their quota.

Thank you, coolcrypto for raising such concern. I also do think that the campaign managers should not tolerate this kind of behavior.


Title: Re: The minimum liability for the forum.
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on March 06, 2021, 05:45:22 AM
Replying in a spam post that contains referral links (which is prohibited) should be reported immediately. It is kinda sad to see that most high ranking members take this for granted just for the sake of completing their quota.

Ranks on the forum doesn't represent the users level of quality since we still have majority of users that got airdropped, the earlier we realized this then we'll stop expecting too much from users with high ranks. The ranks are just activity related because those mostly guilty of this habbits you speak of are those that mostly got their merits airdropped.

This user are numerous on the forum and don't actually care, hardly before you see those that earned their high ranks due to their efforts and contributions to the forum engaging themselves in such practice unless in rare occasions.

Majority are here for the cash (and they feel others are in on it) so it seems nobody care but we have those that do and their efforts aren't been publicized since the reports statistics aren't made public. Best we can do for the forum is to continue in our good deal and report those misusing the forum privilege to moderators for review.