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My original calculations were a little off and I did not expect fake news to push bitcoin's last bull run as high as ~$58k $60.4k $61.8k $63.2k $63.7k $63.8k $63.9k $64.5k $64.9k $67.0k $67.8k $68.5k $69k. The power of fake news is powerful. So there it is, the highest price bitcoin will ever see -- ~$58k $60.4k $61.8k $63.2k $63.7k $63.8k $63.9k $64.5k $64.9k $67.0k $67.8k $68.5k $69k. The next decade will be the story of the unwinding of bitcoin and all the chaos that will unfold as that process plays out. Congrats to anyone who sold at ~$58k $60.4k $61.8k $63.2k $63.7k $63.8k $63.9k $64.5k $64.9k $67.0k $67.8k $68.5k $69k, and good luck to the rest. I hope everyone is able to find an exit soon enough not to lose everything. Cheers, everyone. It's been a fun experiment, but this is the official, confirmed end.

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The fact alone that you're spending your days years (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=9636;sa=showPosts) posting FUD on Bitcointalk proofs you wrong.

Interesting.
Isn't this 58k a little bit higher than the 10k from your signature?
How comes that "bitcoin price cannot be sustained above $10k <---- scientific fact" and still Bitcoin price was higher than 10k since end of July?
I mean, come on, you are Legendary. You are spreading FUD since before I've heard about Bitcoin. You can do better FUD than this  :D

I'll be honest. I'm having a hard time getting back in my grove. Just give me some time. I need to work back into it.

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The recent ATH and now the blood market is not something new. Those who survived in 2018 they will survive again. Bitcoin is not disappearing anywhere. Maybe you all who sold their coins start thinking to fill the bag again.

It is well known that China and Russia are far ahead of the West in science and maths.  That has been confirmed and proven many, many times.  I have also heard from my own definitive sources in South Korea that BTC will rollover and hit below $6500 very soon.

proudhon, perhaps you should start a thread confirming the death of BTC.  Useful.

Viva el Perú!

Finally, another scientist and mathematician! I confirm you.

Proudhon why don't you sell your house, car and dog and go short on BTC with 1:1000 leverage  ;) ;D

I love you proudhon.

 I sold 8k worth at 58000 just because of you

And I am now buying little pieces as it drops before it moves up to  the next ATH of 90k

Confirmed. I checked with my sources in PBOC.

As I read your post I was about to confirm you, but then no.

Facts are facts.  Please do not pass this around, but my South Korean contacts believe that it is the Norks that have been spreading the Fake News.  They need BTC price in the $60k - $80k range.

I'll investigate with my calculator and see if I can confirm.

Not trying to bother looking to see if this is sarcastic or just another boo hoo.  But if the later hasn't history provided you enough confirmation that these posts don't age well.  And if it is pure sarcasm, well done sir you triggered me enough to hit post. Cheers

This post will not age well

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My cell phone has a calculator *, and I have confirmed and proven that a temporary resistance at $6500 is likely.  And then it resumes its permanent decline.


* Definitive further proof requires statistics functions not on my phone, so my calculations might be off a tad.

Thank you for confirming that delusion is strong with this one.

We can chalk this thread down as one which wont age very well
The forum is littered with them over the years.

im sure he meant 9k, which is below your 10k figure.. so - proven with facts, maths and science x 2

anyway i panic bought some at 43.3k as i dont wanna miss out on being rekt like the rest of the lemmings

Proudhon very bearish statements makes me buy more BTC!

Everytime Proudhon forecasts Bitcoin doomsday, another ATH happens!

Thanks man!

This is the way, he has spoken!

Dont know what you do mean about official confirmed end because market is still moving and even if you do make out calculations neither those would be accurate
or not but it doesnt matter because price could always be in random.You cant say that it would really be just having that 58k price ATH and if we do look at on the market
then it isnt really that much hard to reach that point yet 10k price away isnt really that too far-off. FINAL ATH is limitless because bitcoin could go into those
levels where people do least expecting.

I did not understand you philosophical undertone  :P. If you are able to make a huge profit and was able to sell the coin at the all time high valuation , congrats on your profit but to think that we will not ever see those valuations again is a bit too bold of an statement as we already know that the price would always touch those valuation in due time.

I checked this thread because of the title and see why he thinks that the last ATH was the final for BTC, but then I realized this guy has a personal vendetta of Fud'ing BTC market.  That alone shows a biased statement, thus anything from him won't be considered valid pointers.



Sadly people like them won't stop.  But on a positive note, this FUD if successful opens a door to buying BTC at lower rates.

Can we get $3k, sir?

Thank you, most honorable OP, for the solid proofs. I placed a buy order at $0.01 just like you advised.

That's a great first step. But if you truly understand what science has proven, then you'll aggressively short bitcoin.

Thank you, OP. Kwukduck is currently very busy accumulating his silver from the mines, and he will be unavailable during the current bull market. How lovely of you that you’re taking his place to become the new guide on when to buy the dip. 8)

Unconfirmed

Proudhon is probably a whale scooping up all the coins sold by his victims...

I am very surprised that the Legendary Member has such an opinion, because I thought that only people with very little experience in the cryptocurrency market could say something like that. Everyone who has experience with cryptocurrencies for more than 3 years knows well that this is not the end of Bitcoin price increases.

My sauces confirm bitcoin is going negative within days. Good luck everyone, it's been a great ride.
https://i.imgur.com/Tbd4lQj.jpg

There’s a portion of Bitcoin’s chart that can be made to fit in there somewhere. Bitcoin’s daily chart from November 2017 to November 2019! Haha! That shall now be known as, the Llama Movement. Let’s salute everyone who HODLed, and bought the dips during those difficult, and stressful times.

You haven't seen the full Llama Movement yet.

Llama movements can be spectacular when they drop.

Bitcoin dropped during 2014 - 2016, and 2018 - 2020. It WILL drop later in 2021, or  during 2022 - 2024. BUT which point is the maximum bottom of the drop, and becomes the support?

Zoom out. What was the lowest point of the last bear market cycle, what was the highest point of the bull market cycle that preceded that?

Let’s salute the Llama movement.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eve7r0DXUAYOaMs?format=png&name=large

I will salute you all as I ride a Llama all the way down!

So happy to see guys like you continue to eke out your existence, trying to make points, adjusting your goal posts over and over again, and then saying you were "a little off" in your predictions.

You may one day eventually prove to be right, but then so would the guy predicting his death every day. He'll get it right some day, but might look back wistfully on a wasted existence of trying to be right.

All the same, if your boat's rocking, who are we to say? Enjoy!

Oh sure you are correct , Bitcoin is now climbing back again and has a almost 5k increase in the last 24 hours
If this continue happens in the next  2 days ? then who can say that the Last highest we can see for decades is that 58,000?
and also what will happen if Bitcoin Reached the highest 100,000$ ATH this year alone?
will you End your case and accept that this post is a Fud?

Proudhon’s math and science needs an upgrade to maths x 2 and science x 2  ;D

LOOOOOOL. That is basically me lol, I am glad that it increased in 2020 because I have been around since the LLAMA MOVEMENT lol, yes that is right I hodled during that period.

I would bet that there would be some during this period as well, the price reached to nearly 60k levels and that was really special but the reality is that it dropped as low as 42 or 43k as well during this period, so that could be considered a bit of Llama movement as well but that was a correction that the price kept going low so I do not think that it fits perfectly, it is still not that difficult to make similarities since it was at a peak and then dropped but it didn't say there, if the price stayed there a bit more it could have been true, in 2017 to 2019 period we reached to 20k but then we went low and until April 2019 we have managed to stay low and we kept low for a very very long time.

I am quite happy that they exist you know? Because, the more there are these kinds of people who think bitcoin will fall and be nothing or bitcoin is a scam or whatever, the less people get into bitcoin and the less people get in it, the lower price is (or slower it goes up) and that allows me to buy more and more until one day everyone is in and price is god knows what. I mean how could I profit from bitcoin price becoming 400k today?

I do not have that much money and it would be good but it wouldn't be the perfect situation so at the end of the day I want people to hold on from buying right now and wait until I can buy more and more, if I can buy more and more that means I could make a profit later when they get in. So, this is why I like these kinds of people, they are making wrong decisions and that is why it is awesome for all of us that they exist.

You and me both. I love it when it's all doom and gloom, I just can't have enough of it when I see bad headlines dominate the news. It's a bit too happy and joy joy for my liking now on this forum (haha) but I'm pretty sure we're not yet over the top in sentiment as my Google feed (yes, it has learnt by now what to show me) is generally still pouring scorn over crypto.

Not only is that good for the price action as you say, but I personally think it helps keep away those who'd otherwise jump in with bags of cash they can't afford to lose.

Thank you, the Llama ride going all the way down to $60,000 after Bitcoin’s new 6-figure ATH will perhaps be truly hard to accept, and full of stress and anxiety as well. HODLers will need your support, and encouragement. I salute you for saluting.

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Just look at the data and do a little math. The downtrend has resumed in earnest.

thank you OP for your strong bullish signal. if history is repeating itself, which i am convinced it is, that means we are going to see $1 million soon because according to your post history each time bitcoin is starting to launch the rocket to the moon you come around here and start talking about how price is going to reverse and dump down hard and in short the doomsday :D

and here is a LOL for everyone from that history:

ill gladly follow op maybe he will say that btc goes to $1M, then btc goes to $0

talking about the all time high, of course Bitcoin can still reach it again, the current situation is very scary,
because the very volatile Bitcoin price makes investors confused about when to buy and sell, sentiment is still bullish, but dumps can also happen quickly, stop losses must be currently in use.

nice one! on the other hand, we already surpassed the 50k level. i dont know the motive of the OP why he is pessimistic with the fate of BTC considering that he is legendary in the forum. is he only trolling or is it his real desire towards BTC?
most of the forum users are wishing for the best. anyway, BTC's fate doesnt end in 58k, as many entities are already into crypto market, i believe we will go farther than that.

Whoo, I impress Bitcoin since I join in crypto, and it was not deniable that everything could be possible in Bitcoin. Rich people had come, known and big companies are also coming, pushing the price high. Some say $1000 is not achievable, it just likes to say $50k is too far when we are at $5k.

We've been solid since before, people did not notice that because of their negative thoughts, they are ignoring Bitcoin but now, they got crazy looking at the price surging high, making another ATH.

You will find many FUD posts and if you look at the old posts here it is filled with FUD and shilling their speculation on how the market will go down and so on, the market touched the all time high valuation around $57k and we might see a correction here and there but we are in this rally for a few more months before we see a major correction. Enjoy the profit and wait for the market to roll again.

Including me, I was devastated when I'm going to think about the past looking back those btc's spent for years. However, isn't just the end because when price going down another good time to buy back would potentially help us gain another profit. But somehow, I still expect seeing another bearish market which could give chance for other frustrated investors so everyone could earn gracefully in times of another pumps.

Then you should zoom out, and do a little statistical math yourself, and see in what trajectory Bitcoin has been on since 2010/2011. Plus consider that M2 Money Supply is in its ATH, and Velocity of Money is in its ATL because of the pandemic. Do you believe the people will continue to HODL their cash savings when the economy opens up again? 8)

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2SL
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2SL#0

Don't worry, the OP here is a known FUDster and bitcoin will definitely reach another ATH, maybe within this year or who knows when but we will reach another, we just have to have a faith that it will reach there because if you give up midway, OP will win and then OP can finally buy more bitcoin at a lower prices. Dumps happen but that doesn't mean that it will be the end for bitcoin, 2017-2018 drop happened remember? And right now here we are.

Don't be underistimate, we still strong. Don't just deemed that bitcoin price fall in several days and give an assumption that the bull run is over.

There will be many reason for bitcoin up more than $58.000 and will make many investor who has sold it will be regretted and want to buy bitcoin again.

The correction is always comes and this pointed out an healthy movement. I just afraid if bitcoin price always up without any correction because it can crash sharply.

Another random, fleeting, short term deviation from the down trend underway. Statistical math and science proves now is an even more perfect time to super short. I've confirmed it.

I need to buy more BTC???

But sir I have already spend all fiat money to buy the last dip.

Is a bank loan a viable solution now for me?

Dont use leverage with BTC, its bad voodoo that only helps sell offs and detractors.   We're in the region of the previous high looks like and market is going over prior pricing.   We just stepped off the 12hr average which is often a good market for bigger up days, so we may revise the price action gained previously so that speculators close positions and market runs through supply to determine a direction from here.

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Its above a daily trend at 55k, if it confirms that as a low it will remain bullish in this area.

In my opinion, strong support is at 56k, because the double top has been broken and the trend is up, but indeed the Bitcoin price cannot be determined with certainty, the double top only occurs in the 1 hour time frame, but at 4 hours the double top does not occur, this indicates that corrections may occur, for sure if you still hold bitcoin don't think too much about the 100k price in this short term, just wait for the lower price, and do the accumulation, good luck.

well this is still the beginning, some experts even ceo binance said we are still in the deep, imagine how high the value will be in the next few months or years and to be honest I also think so after various parties began to respond positively to bitcoin even though yesterday there was a correction but not too impactful and as we see bitcoin is going up fast.

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The revolution has failed and bitcoin has resumed its natural downtrend. I've confirmed this.

The last time I checked the bullish market is pretty much alive and here you are saying the Bitcoin revolution has failed and the downtrend has proceeded with. How do you confirm all what you said which is not back by any prove cause most analyses are still bullish about this market that it will reach $100K?

Because he’s/she’s/it’s a troll

Hmm...right now bitcoin is above $57k and seems to have some momentum behind it.  I'm afraid you might be wrong in your prediction here that $58k is going to be the highest bitcoin ever goes.  I would have said the same thing this past week when it fell even lower than where it is now, because I suspected that was just a dip in an otherwise very bullish market--and that's exactly where we are:  in an extremely bullish bitcoin market.

Just wait until all the Americans start getting their second stimulus checks of $1400.  You can bet your sweet ass that there's going to be a lot of bitcoin buying.  A small percentage of Americans, no doubt, but the collective buying power of those who do buy bitcoin with their stimulus money might be enough to drive the price up even further.  We shall see.

Well, you have predicted wrong, and will be wrong as well. Bitcoin has been high today as well, nearly broke over ATH and price is back to what it was today anyway, not any lower, and even if it drops a bit, it always recovers, from 41k to 28k and still recovered, from 58k to 43k and still recovered and even if it drops again today, it will recover.

Do not mistake what has happened in crypto before to this period because we have the corporations at our side now, that is why I think it is quite obvious that we are not going to end up being in risk of going down at any time, we have always lived bear runs after a huge bull run like this but we never had those type of huge corporations buying billions of dollars worth of bitcoin before, this is why it is different this time around and this is why I think we are not going to see bitcoin dropping too low.

I see it as fund and after your personal prediction, bitcoin is still strong.



Bitcoin is about to grow faster to higher ATH with the huge dollar that US is injecting into the there system. This money will certainly go into bitcoin investment when it gets circulated. So you can be sure that fast rate is going to hit the space anytime soon.

 ;)

God, this project still has to overcome hacks, insecurity, mt.gox, silkroas, CSW, bcash and all the rest of it and now it has also got to overcome proudhon's ridiculous math & science.
/s

I know you are enjoying your life with the many btcs you have amassed over the years!  ;)

That's so amazing to see how this ATH history made it to success. This proves everybody's speculations took several times to undergo certain opinions that created different visionaries, which eventually make those dreams come to reality. I also salute the holders who made millions of profit, without them we can't reach this milestone.

Fud is everywhere when you try to do something against it and it has lost its generosity because you missed your trip.  I think there's no other reason to talk about your nonsense.  Bitcoin is making great again, $ 60k is still creating cravings, and $ 100k will be the perfect destination. Kk :-*

You meant $60k bro?

We couldn't know what would be the final ATH of crypto if we wouldn't set up a time limit and it hits the time limit the we set up.
So if you are talking about this years ATH it is still uncertain and it is still too early to declare the final ATH because many things could happen and change the flow.

Here it is demonstrable that when there is a lot of FUD and Panic, the price of Bitcoin usually does the opposite, which gives me to understand that the Strong Hands were pushing to buy much cheaper while the Weak Hands were selling, this is very common, now We could live another new ATH, through which emotions will echo a higher price, because everyone wants to have more Bitcoin and do not want to miss this movement.

When looking at the graph there is a purely buyer trading volume, of course this implies that the testing of the offer at levels below $50k was eliminated, now they are testing new price levels ..

Bitcoin is doing great and this is confirmed by today's new ATH above $60k. That the $100k level will be reached is certain and it is only a matter of time. I think we should think about lower resistance levels for now ($70k, $80k ..) but nobody will stop us from dreaming about $200k ..  8) ;D

Nothing is impossible and there is nothing wrong with the dreamer. If bitcoin get more support from investor, then $100K will be hit very soon. Maybe bitcoin holder really want bitcoin to hit $100K now, but it will all take some time. I believe there is still a long way to go to get to $100K, as it is still possible to see bitcoin price undergo a correction. The number of bitcoin currently in circulation is 18,652,743 BTC, and I'm sure investor find them rare. Scarcity will cause price to continue to rise and it is still very possible that this dream will come true.

Very minor oversight in my highly predictive scientific math model. I have updated OP to account for small error. Otherwise, model still perfectly scientifically on track.

LOL.  I guess you have to keep editing that number as bitcoin keep chugging along.  And actually I didn't realize it got as high as $60.4k but I'll take your word for it since it's not that far away from that valuation right now.

If that is indeed the all-time high, I suspect bitcoin will probably surpass that by the end of the weekend.  The bullish sentiment is still very, very strong--and that's aside from all the "fake news" OP mentioned (and I'm not exactly sure what news or what's fake about said news anyway).  People are just buying bitcoin like crazy right now, and just wait until the Americans get the next stimulus check.  A day or two after those are received, you can look at $60.4k in the rear view mirror and wave goodbye to it.

So you say.

Please keep updating it while we go to the m00n  ;D

P.S. Don't forget to increase your high leveraged shorts  ;)

No doubt, bitcoin will hit $100k milestone sooner or later. But there will be major correction like this as bull run isn't mean to be pumped without any correction. Like @longyenthanh said, we should focus on the $70k or $74k resistance zone. If we compare this current correction with the previous one of January 2021, than we might see a 40-41% pump in the upcoming days/weeks/months from $60k price level. So, it looks like $74k might be the next target and we might get major correction again after hitting that milestone and than aim for $100k.  ;)

It needs another update... your maths and science sucks  :-*

Updated my model.

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Today's Date: 3/13/2021
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From the current price from Coinmarketcap.com

www.coinmarketcap.com

ATH Today as of this post! ATH! So 'far' today anyway!

Current Price: $61,450.30 USD.

Total BTC Needed: 16.27 BTC! For 1,000,000.00 USD!

Again, using this latest price! From www.coinmarketcap.com!

OMG, I come back to this forum after 10 years and @proudhon is still here?  I didn't expect any of us the old timers to still be around.  Last time I remember hearing your bearish wisdom was when BTC was < $100  :D

We are only three months and he will update it a lot of time now, I hope he will not delete his old prediction, I will comeback here at the end of this year and check how many update he has created I figure that Bitcoin will reach $100k this year, hoping it will we are still in the bull run and people's motivation to buy is still there.

What can I say, I'm committed to helping people.

This is just the beginning of this bull run. This will definitely be different from others and I can foresee a minimum of $200k before the end of this year. All-time high just getting going.

i think proudhons maths and sciences would like a word with you.

Can you bear-shill a bit more please - we're stuck at $61k, need to get it going again. Thank you so much.

https://i.imgur.com/mA3ENrh.png

Pretty obvious long term trend developing.

You will have to recalculate your final ATH for bitcoin every week/month but crossing out your previous ATH  :D

I am not saying that we are going straight to 100,000$ but 61.8K is not the top for this bull run.

This thread, with all the math and science that showers on everyone gets a sail of approval fro the most helpful thoughts to have in mind during ATHs. So far, this confirmed science is sustaining the price in a marvelous way and who are we to stop it?

Lol, we are above 60k now :D. 58k as "as high as bitcoin  will ever be" already broken, doesn't matter if it goes any higher or lower, it doesn't change the fact that bitcoin has reached 60k, this is already over and not even a remotely important to see bitcoin at any price. The premise was "bitcoin will not go above 58k again" and it did. Hence we can easily say that the fact that proudhon is a troll is true, that was just a simple cry for attention and nothing else.

There are tons of people online trolling others and writing stuff that are as obviously wrong as saying 2+2 equals 100, they do this because they get zero attention from any other human in life, it is really difficult for these people to communicate in other way or make friends so what they do is write wrong stuff and get attention and that becomes the only human communication they have in life.

As I predicted, the droppening is confirmed and will quickly accelerate the collapse now that India has wisely banned bitcoin. Infinite short opportunity.

https://i.imgur.com/fS5QlJM.png

I just love your predictions. Be careful that neither of us may live long enough to see your prediction correct for good. And you may have to cross out quite a lot of numbers meanwhile..

The devastating confirmed death collapse of bitcoin continues. Good luck everyone. I hope everyone is able to get out before $0.

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Confirmed.  Science and maths* prove BTC goes WAAAAY down.



* Subject to me running my final statistical analysis.

I just decided to buy a little more for myself, now i just want to tell everyone that.
If you want to earn a few thousand dollars in this market, you have to endure a fluctuating margin of several thousand dollars.
Similarly, if you want to earn tens of thousands of dollars, you must learn to accept and be patient with the market. 
That said, do you feel enough peace? Be strong? We will be together forever and not leaving the market.

As I predicted, significant resistance to a new ATH that clearly cannot be overcome.

NOPE

made a new ATH today

Time for another title edit or another thread? Might as well draft a few more threads now OP as I get the feeling we're not done yet even in this week.

All the same, keep it up. I do look forward to these threads to keep my own spirits entertained.

We salute you.

Updated to account for very minor error in calculations. Bearish trend still 100% intact.

I love you Proudhon you are the best.

I sold a chunk of my holdings today.

I usually sell a chunk when we hit a new ATH.

Almost wise. Should have sold everything and opened a safe low yield savings account with a safe traditional bank. Updated OP to account for another very trivial error.

Yeah, just sold a smidgen myself.  Should have sold more, but have to run and do errands.  Ah well.

Science and maths will prove all in the end.

I'm curious what will happen first: you'll reach the maximum post length with the trivial corrections or you'll be finally right :D

https://i.imgur.com/tsISahx.jpg

Not much time left to exit as a clear trend develops.

beautiful graph work keep it up. ;)

The BIG CRASH is ever closer!




(had to do one more little update)

I'm still looking forward to the $100k mark, this is what experts are predicting and it's going to happen based on the current market movement and adoption process, OP will edit his thread many times going to the $100k, right now we just had our new all-time high at $62k mark and this month before the end of the month we'll have $70k, I hope altcoins will follow the price of Bitcoin.

Lol I love this topic ;). Its tongue in cheek type of things we need right now that would remind us that everyone who claims that bitcoin will go down has been wrong so far, good job for proudhon to be either mocking them from the start, or maybe was one of them but realized he was wrong and just turned it into a joke.

I have seen way too many people keep claiming that bitcoin is way too overpriced since it was 20k, and look where we are now, if those people who said 20k ATH at the time was too much realized that they could bought from there and sold at 3x that would have made bitcoin even higher today. Hopefully this topic is basically a fair warning to everyone who keeps claiming constantly that bitcoin is way overpriced and we should not buy it at the peak, each peak we try to avoid is another place we could have bought and made some profit.

Just like me, who always sells part of the profit that I get when the coins I hold reach new ATH, especially bitcoin, and only part of the profit I sell and the rest I save to wait for the next ATH.
and i have made sales a few times when the coin i was holding hit a new ATH, and it looks like things like that will continue and i really enjoy it.

The last expectation of yours had already broken today , Meaning if Bitcoin Reached 65,000$ all that you are saying here is Wrong and would reflect as being FUD?
Bitcoin price had High value couple of hours ago with 64,758$ according to CMC here >> https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/

Actually you are already Wrong because it is 64,700 and you are only looking for 64,50.0

I see seven corrections in the OP, or “tweaks” to your “model”, then was there seven salutes that came after it? Plus is there really a model? Or was everything guess-work with more guess-work coming? Saluting back at you on the next salute. 8)

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Well, let's be honest, after this topic turned to be a troll (or maybe was a troll since start) the corrections at OP message is a bit weird and just rudimentary. Sure it went up but you do not have to go 63.7 then 63.8 then 63.9, just make it go 1k each, or even 500 bucks if you want to, what is the point of putting a new one after each 100 dollars? At the start it was at least from 58k to 60k+ and that made sense even the other one went to 61.8k but since over 63k it was just full on troll.

It is still good though, because it shows the world how people that believe bitcoin will crash can be wrong, sure one day it may crash as well but nobody in the entire world would know when that will happen, which is why there is no reason to keep calling the bear run, it will eventually happen, just enjoy what profits we are getting now before that starts.

yes, if you have a lot of coins, of course you will always sell back because bitcoin will always reach the renewable ATH, even at the beginning of the year 5 days in a row it reached its renewable ATH. So there is nothing impossible that with the latest ATH currently at $ 64,804.72 - Apr 14, 2021, then a few days later there will be a correction to move higher then a renewable ATH will be formed.

and it can be predicted that bitcoin will continue to move until the end of this year, if that happens then the first and second halving effects will be correct and will also be followed by the third halving effect last year. There is a possibility that the price will not be corrected again but will continue to increase, if there is a correction, it is only in preparation for moving towards a higher price.

Lol tell that to your self but not on us.

We will be having Multiple ATH till this year end so stop your hallucinations  because that will never come  ;D


Lol Enough of your Joke  ;D

Nah, actually it's not the end you still have to input a lot of numbers next to $64.9k.
This fake news is actually the most powerful one, because it lasted for about almost 12 years now, and what's worse was this fake news has been growing each and every year.
I guess you need to find a better crystal ball than what you have right there, because it wasn't really providing the results you want to get.

So, yeah, this is totally the end. Looking ugly.

you seem pretty calm about the end. prolly long ago cashed out into that good old long term safe USD in some super reputable bank you lucky bastard.

yeah, we shoulda listened oh wise one.

oh the humanity

Many bullish trends are blowing, it does not matter that for now bitcoin has a correction to less than $ 60k, after reaching a new ATH, it is normal that corrections exist in every market, but now it looks more like a pull back, the trading volume is increasing, and a new liquidity pool may be developing to resist bearish attacks.

There is a very good analysis of an article, which quotes the following:

https://i.imgur.com/K4kXpt3.png
Source: https://www.newsbtc.com/news/how-r-wallstreetbets-triggered-doge-rally-and-bitcoin-sell-off/ (https://www.newsbtc.com/news/how-r-wallstreetbets-triggered-doge-rally-and-bitcoin-sell-off/)

We are not at the final ATH yet, I think there is a lot more fun going on for now ...

The post on the end of the market here and twitter is worrisome, they got no data or statistics to support this opinion and could be very distracting. If we consider the cycle like in the past we might see a leg up from here starting from ETH and altcoins before the parabolic move. It has been a long price pump from last year and the sentiment had been sustain, remember to prepare for the tax

Dips during this current market cycle are for buying, not selling because,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExyyVHdUcAA6lmy?format=jpg&name=medium

We don’t want the billionaires to get what they most want from us HODLers. Our Bitcoins. Always remember that there will only be 21 nillion coins in existence.

Shortterm short, longterm long. Easy as pie :D

https://www.tradingview.com/x/OgNLwyx6/

Pic as link
https://www.tradingview.com/x/OgNLwyx6/ (https://www.tradingview.com/x/OgNLwyx6/)

My Chinese sauces are confirming it...

https://i.imgur.com/v0hlgQZ.jpg

BTC is currently in a state of correction, but this does not mean that BTC will be destroyed because now the world community is starting to understand and understand the greater benefits of crypto assets, especially Bitcoin which is now starting to be used as an investment asset so that the value of this asset increased rapidly some time ago, if we look at the fact that there are now not only individuals or retail but many agencies, organizations and even developed countries that have also started to make Bitcoin a reserve asset other than gold. Current price corrections are a natural thing to happen to all existing investments and this is where we should be able to take advantage of this to get a profit in trading, there's nothing to worry about when we see BTC price corrections in the market happening in my opinion.

OP: It's over at 60 thousand and I'll edit my post if we go higher. I've been doing it for months already, so get ready. Next month I'll congratulate those who sold at 70000.

Isn't this one of many corrections on the way up? We had a very similar one in January, February, and a smaller one in March. OP will say it's the end, I say it's just the beginning.

But it's the end

$53,000, and on its way down.

Prepare for impact.

My sauces confirm that sgbett is delicious. Also, Bitcoin will have a negative price in a matter of hours. Maximum leveraged shorts is the only way to survive.

Come with me if you want to live.

We're gonna save so many people.

Here I have extrapolated the scale from the original sauce image in order that more people can be saved. Please ensure all saves are confirmed, we are going to need 6 of them to be safe.

https://i.imgur.com/4ZGGVLN.png

Thank you, this is the science we've been waiting for!

My sauces confirm I have saved $8000 since this morning updates, how much can we save, only Jesus knows.

at this rate, we will get to -$100k in no time!!!

Selling all bitcoin now, even shorting on high margin, is the only move that makes sense and will save a lifetime of regret.

Of course it is very good that you can do that, most of the people are more panic and make not solve the problem but create new problems that occur. all cannot know what will happen because bitcoin is not in control and will move according to the market. GBU


of course that is part of the strategy you can do by selling when the price is still high and we buy it when the price is low. but not when buying at a high price to sell it, it is not a settlement because now there is a big correction, what needs to be done so as not to get carried away by excessive panic, which in fact will make more losses. waiting again where bitcoin will move to improve itself because there is still a long time for bitcoin to repair it until the end of this year.

The fact that you have a lot of numbers means that you were just pulling numbers out of your ass, some of it might not even be true and that you just pulled those numbers to make it look like you really are onto something. You might want to get in the market now because I know that you are bitter because the prices pumped and you didn't have any bitcoin in your possession so you got bitter and spread FUD so others can join with the misery that you are feeling right now.

still monitoring whether the final ATH is at $ 60k, or will go to $ 100k,
because all technical analysis leads at $ 100k of course this is a good sentiment,
if Bitcoin maintains its high price of course altcoins will also get more expensive, unfortunately Bitcoin price plummeting from $ 60k to $ 30k,
it was horrifying to see the volatility.

Not all technical analysis. My scientific and confirmed mathematical analysis leads to the confirmed conclusion that bitcoin will never make new ATHs and is in it's final death-crash.

Yeah like it has been for years now.

Please tell me what kind of science do you use? :)

The math and scientific science kind from confirmed sources.

The first few pages of this thread are people in this topic, they were the Bitcoin OGs, the lucky buyers and HODLers of a 4-digit Bitcoin, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0

Why do they “hate” Bitcoin? These are familiar names, the same names who are currently trolling us today, names who, I believe, might have sold the lows of 2015. Haha.

You are Good at it mate, Look at the stats you mentioned almost everything comes to its best. and thanks that i am one of those Lucky who sells from the Bull.
You got them there mate  ;) , and also you made me laugh from that.

Can anyone confirm these sauces? buying 4-digit Bitcoin seems highly suspicious.

well confirmed by maths and science, kinda. for what its worth.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87408.msg961086#msg961086

thank you for the maths and science confirm, this indeed confirms it, i'll pass this on to my Chinese sauces.


Not me, the maths and science confirms I have less than 4000 BTC

What would the maths and science confirm you HODL the most in your wallet? I respectfully, and genuinely ask ser, and please explain why. The 4D chess must be “confusing” me this morning. 8)

You know I only have Bitcoin #BSV ;)

Pretty sure they're just retired and bored  ;D

Two more weeks until my own retirement

It's been a wild ride y'all.

just one more and we will have full confirmation of sauce

https://i.imgur.com/8m7Odwo.png

This guy confirms

If you makes predictions, the results can be right or wrong, that is a natural thing.  because you use the data and infer it, and the future no one knows.  it's different if you try fortune telling then it makes me laugh.  and regarding the final ATH?  no, I hope there will be a new ATH like in 2017. 300% from ath.

people still do not understand he is the REAL BTC supporter, i mean it should be obvious now! he's like the Sasha Baron Coen of bitcointalk

I realized later he's a one of the biggest bulls, but only when I read it in Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.0). That also made me realize proudhon created his account in 2011, so he must be quite okay financially because of Bitcoin.
However, until I read that, he just looked like one of the many trolls who spends his days spreading FUD. Most people aren't WO-insiders, and proudhon's sarcastic way of hiding he's a bull isn't very obvious. At least to n00bs like me.

I wonder where sgbett and proudhon are now? They have confirmed the Bitcoin price chart made by sgbett to show the "death" of Bitcoin.

Just look their profiles up. More updated threads plus threads preemptively created for proudhon haha. They've no reason to disappear now, Bitcoin hasn't gone anywhere near to the end of its movement this year. Still finely poised, I'd say, to move aggressively in either direction.

Besides, you can't say they're not among the forum's most entertaining personalities. I got BTC myself but it's dull to be surrounded by moonbois only, no?;)

Who knows, one day I become rich enough to retire and then I can join their ranks. Would see it as a personal compliment.

^  I feel like this week is the week we’ll find out which direction that is.  I have a couple of small altcoin longs left atm and my finger is itching to press that close position button.  Everything is slowing down.  Just small buy ups here and there but no real strength from most of them. 

He is doing his job. There are a lot of users out here who makes a living out of FUD and rumors. A large part of the users here do day-trading, and they need high volatility in the market to make profits. The problem is that nowadays the strategy is not working that well with Bitcoin, as it is the case with altcoins. We had a correction from $64K to $29K, but it lasted less than a month. Compare this to the situation we had in 2014. The Bitcoin prices were falling steeply on a continuous basis for almost two years, and started the recovery only in 2016. 2014/15 was the ultimate wet dream for the cryptobears. And we can't blame them if they want another such episode now.

can't blame what people do with the aim that they are looking for profit from it, everything can and can be done as long as it can make people believe otherwise they are just doing things in vain. it's not easy to do that to something that is believed to be profitable for many people.


I totally agree with my friend, that it has become a trick in itself to be able to find the weaknesses of many people they can do and be able to make profits from people who trust. but it's true that if it's done with bitcoin then it's clearly different because the bitcoin market is very good, if there is a very fast correction and increase as well, so it's true that day trading is in great demand in bitcoin at a time when traffic is high.

but then again bitcoin does have its own share and usually those who do it are people who do have large capital because the price is quite high so very few are able to do that, apart from of course with altcoins which are indeed affordable prices and if you play the game it is certainly very easy to do.

bitcoin won't have a bad time again and bitcoin will be able to overcome things that can be done quickly because once again the market share is different now.

Its always a never ending seeking of those events and thats why they do really need to put up at least some effort since they do know that they could get benefit from it.

Dont know on why they are talking about final ATH since this market hadnt go down to the floor yet.Dumps and recovery is always next on line and it had happened countless times
in the past which its dump that you wont really be seeing those probabilities.

There are really just people who do love to spread FUD but of course it is intentional.

I can’t speak for altcoins, but this forum has been incapable of moving the Bitcoin price since 2014. There was a point when the market was small enough to be influenced by what was posted here, but those days are long gone.

Additionally, proudhon has been around long enough to know highs come in December so shame on him for jumping the gun with this thread.

I don't know why but I feel like this thread be occasionally be bumped so when the prices start breaking the current ATH, we will be able to celebrate it in this thread so @proudhon can see how wrong he/she is and just to add insult to the injury.

i think youre missing the whole point of proudhons game.

Despite some noisey ups and downs, my salute is still appropriate and prescient. This looks like another fantastic short entry to me.

True, during this time the fud that has been spread has started to disappear a bit and I think the china ban is only a temporary blow for bitcoin and now we can see if the market starts to improve again, and of course it doesn't rule out the possibility that the bitcoin price will return to a positive path later
Right now the bitcoin price has reached $50K and it only takes half way for bitcoin to reach its latest ATH again.

But what is proudhon’s game? There’s nothing he can do anymore, especially not move the price of Bitcoin with his trolling. I believe he was one of those OGs who held more than 1000 coins, but who sold too early. 7 digits would have made him a billionare.

i think the object of his game is to figure out what the object of his game is.

Everyone has the right to present their predictions here and write their own scenarios, after all, that's what the "Speculation" thread is for.
In my opinion, this is not a game, but proudhon described in numbers how he thinks the Bitcoin price chart will behave. He probably just copied it from some piece of the historical Bitcoin price chart.
In my opinion, this is just an attempt to predict the price and confirm the theory that Bitcoin's price depends on repetitive cycles.

He’s simply trolling, and hoping that his fork-of-a-forked-shitcoin will surge to a significant valuation. No one listens to them. They’re an annoyance, but no one listens to them. A pity to those people who sold their Bitcoin for forked shitcoins.

I can confirm that he doesn't think he will.

Its final all-time-high level? Really?  :D  I respect your opinion of course. But I must indicate that this will not be the final all-time-high level for Bitcoin. Because there is no reason for this too. Bitcoin price has no upper limit to reach. Its future is just wide open. And the FUD you are trying to indicate will not work.  ;D  People should understand this already. As long as people continue to demand Bitcoin a lot, there is no way that the price will just stop breaking new records. The price is highly depending on the demand in the end.

you're true, with a limited number of bitcoins of course it will most likely make the price continue to increase over time, and I think the bitcoin ATH that occurred some time ago is not the last bitcoin high we will see, because with the supply of bitcoins getting less and less now of course the price is $64K is still a relatively low price and if bitcoin conditions improve, $100k is the initial price for bitcoin's revival in 2022.

Final ATH "For Now"  ;D

we knew that after the ATH of 2017 , here comes ATH of 2021 , meaning in the next 4 years we will be seeing another ATH and this thread needs editing when that time comes .

let us not be exaggerated because OP means for the mean time this is the Final ATH but ofcourse there are many to come.

I don't mean for the mean time. I mean for all time.

I can add a second confirmation that all people on all sides of fences are continuing to remain on their respective sides of fences. So here we all are, needing each other to validate each other,,, without one side there cannot be an opposing side. So I welcome his salutations and wait to see which side is right (and being right is never permanent!).

I can confirm that $50,000 is actually in strikethrough and $51,000 is the ATH being saluted.

While I was reading OPs post regarding this final ATH, I can't control myself to laugh, this was posted last February and its too early to predict, look at the price now $50k only few thousands left until we can surpass the latest ATH and this is very achievable this time as the market is so bullish, so I believe theres no final ATH yet as Op told, new ATH is coming so brace yourselves.   

I add on my obligatory confirmation that nothing has changed since I last posted this,,, we need each other here and I am happy for the right to cheer now, so that we can be the ones on the other side of the prediction when this next happens.

51k,,, last one to salute? Enjoy while it lasts! ;)

There is no doubt that new ATH could happen soon, I'm sure the october market will be bull run and new ATH around $75k in october will be reached, and new ATH this year can reach $100k, the number of companies actively investing in bitcoin is certainly an indication strong that the price of bitcoin will continue to skyrocket.

Now the bitcoin price is 52k and the increase in my opinion is very good because slowly 1k is adding up in a short time and it's a very pleasant start of october, and hopefully the bitcoin price movement will continue to increase by 1k every day, hehe hopefully even if that is not possible. ;D
if the bitcoin price continues to move like this it looks like ATH will only be reached this month because the current price is slowly approaching yesterday's ATH, and to reach 100k it looks like it will happen by the end of the year as most people predict.

I guess that you have this "persona" locked in, and it is funny at times, but when it is done too much it becomes quite boring as well. I have no idea how long this will go, or how high it will get, but I am sure that it will always be him saying bitcoin is done, that is for sure. It is quite entertaining most of the time, but I wasn't in mood today at all, I really got angry for some reason. Then I realized, why would anyone get mad at someone on a public forum for saying something stupid, even if it was 2+2 equals 22, why would you get mad at it, this doesn't change my life, he doesn't impact my life, why would I get mad at him for something that has nothing to do with me, so thank you proudhon for letting me realize how much we care for trolls online.

Final ATH you say? We are almost heading there and reaches it out and it isnt really that too far off.Bitcoin could really have always that surprise that it could possibly reach out all time highs

final ath is something cant be known because as long this market would have its demand then possibilities is always there.Demand and adoption is on the move which
we can presume that ATH is something that can be known on upcoming years to come.

Just don't the thread title literally but read the OP's view on the first page. It's obvious that there will be different ATHs and bitcoin soon will surpass each of its established ATH. But while Bitcoin is experiencing a good move, we should also consider taking profits. It's not wrong to hold for long but for a strong trend, it can be crashed unexpectedly and the cycle will just repeat.

Today bitcoin has reached $55k and I'm sure there will be a new ATH in October, maybe the price will reach $75k then the November market will drop again but I'm sure it won't be below $45k, this is a bull run month like 2017 so that makes us optimistic about bitcoin.

Now I see this profile constantly discouranging people from believing in bitcoin's potential is just a satirical one. Probably he is an early bitcoin adopter who has a lot of fun reading another enthusiasts' reactions mad on his negative views on bitcoin. This thread actually shows how powerful bitcoin is, because OP had to edit the post several times as bitcoin price kept hiting new ATHs (and that is what makes his joke a funny one).

Well, I can't say he doesn't have sense of humor. :)

Anything can happen in the cryptocurrency market. The market sentiment is positive and I also believe that such a scenario is possible. However, I am more inclined towards a slow price increase with a few corrections after the route. Surely slow growth would be better than a sudden upward shot.

Get used to it on where there are people who are on this forum or market would really have these kind of sentiments or comments on having in mind which could definitely make some effect to noobs which do easily
believe on what they do read up in the public.

It do turns out that people like these ends up on being a troll in the eyes of the community which we do know on how this market behaves and talking about final ATH is something laughable.

Final ATH isnt known yet because we arent still on the peak of adoption and recognition which means numbers are still indefinite.

Op, your words made me cry (in honor) when I saw the title of the thread, but when I entered, sigh! I think bitcoin has a lot more room available upside and it can continue to grow till big institutions decide to sell their huge accumulation all at once at market rates on exchanges, that will be when you may see btc under 10k again.

A lot of you guys are missing the context on the very long running Proudhon posts.

He's been posting here for as long as I can remember, likely before I joined back in 2012.

The running joke / laugh used to be that at times of uncertainty Proudhon would stop by, especially in the 'Wall Observer' topic and confirm that the top is in and we're never going to see the likes of $100 again - ever!

He was always regarded as a contrarian - whatever he said - the opposite happened.

Only once do I recall him saying the 'bottom bottom' is in and that was when it hit about $55 after the 2013 crash down from about $260 on MtGox - he was 100% correct on that call - it never went that low again.

Considering that, when Proudhon appears at a time of uncertainty it is a bullish indicator / omen but I guess you would have had to be here in 2012 / 2013 to fully realise that.

This is why I like to see a Proudhon post....they do have meaning  ;)

hey when youve been around for multiple 10,000% gainz and 95% dips youll likely develop an odd sense of humor too  ;D

Or, when you have been around for multiple 10,000% gains, BUT missed out an opportunity to become a billionaire, you would surely develop into something very odd. Real HODLers from 2012 era who actually made it won’t waste their time.

There's no such thing as final ATH as bitcoin price could continue to rise based on its demand.

An asset with a limited supply will never give us a fixed price in the future, it could reach $100k to $1million, that's depending on the demand as it's not only for investing but also for usage, and that's where the demand would rise if it's considered as a legal tender, which means it's accepted in buying anything you want.

We are now heading into a new ATH as of this moment and this really proves out that final is something not relevant or not possible because the price do always move.
It would be an indefinite situation because adoption is moving and thats why i dont know on why people been talking about final things because this had been volatile
since it was starting and price is been moved out on people who had been mainly supporting it or been investing on it.So numbers would never come into a
point to be that final.

I would say proudhon set his 64.9k prediction in April 2021.

It is now October 2021 and he is still correct about six months so far.

Lets not rip into him as maybe just maybe we drop bigly this weekend.

Come on. Everybody knows Bitcoin makes all time highs in December. I thought we were all aware of this last cycle. $200K in December of 2021 should have been on everyone’s mind back in 2017. Don’t tell me you folks haven’t been preparing for this… with the stock to flow model breaking next year, this could very well be the last major hurrah.

Even if the corn goes up, all trollhon needs to do is edit the OP with a new number. I'm sure he'll be correct again at some point.

IOW he's about as trustworthy and reliable as any TA "expert".

Same as what i am seeing in His thread here as he puts Humor towards the post and not totally negativity .
actually this may serve as challenge to everyone who really trust Bitcoin , if you look on the positive side then you know that it can be the other way around that may come.
and you have been observing him for years now so I believe you ahd a complete knowledge on how he delivers His posts here,
thanks for enlightening mate.

You’re an OG. Do you see and believe Bitcoin could crash below last cycle’s all time highs of $20,000? Proudhon might have moved his buy targets higher from under 2014’s ATH to just under 2017’s ATH. He wouldn’t sell his Shitcoin Cash SV if those targets are not met. 8)

Still right. Not worried.

If you discovered the bottom price at some point and were correct, there was only one thing left to do which is go long and sit back.   Markets can stay irrational far longer then most participants can stay solvent.    The market doesn't have to make sense, if we were going on absolutes we should say the dollar has no value and the price is infinite, we shouldn't even argue over what particular nominal figure to stick on top and guess accuracy.   They cannot ever band aid fix the broken structure of dollar now, its gone and same is likely true of YEN and from what Ive seen of awful ECB bond buying they are also set to dissolve, liabilities wont be paid.
   The exchange rate of the old Ruble to the new Ruble is 10,000 to 1, this is the kind of nonsense likely we got to look forward to.   It wont be hard for BTC to rise against ongoing failure, the only solution I ever hear is we must supply more new money.

You omitted your maths and science.

Fail.

It's always implied. Don't want to be too repetitive you know.

So far btc $62k.
How right, what good? So doge, no coins?
I think you need to reassess your thinking of looking towards markets. But I also want to thank you because I will now follow your predictions the other way around, so when you will say that btc is going to drop, it will be an indication for me that it will stay up and up and I will long it and it doesn't matter what outcome I will get.

I really want to see it explode this year, OgNasty. If this ascension cycle is true then I think big celebration will be everywhere. Anyway it is time to see how the market wants to match the previous ATH at $64K but in the last few days I see it can only go up to $63K. If $64K is passed, the price will explode it seems. The Heikin Ashi candle from binance chart trading (https://www.binance.com/en/trade/BTC_USDT) (TF 1 week) looks like the uptrend is likely to continue, but who knows. What is certain is that ATH preparation must be considered.

https://i.ibb.co/WgCBFnD/Binance-chart.png

There will be few corrections before the current ATH is crossed. This is a common behavior we can see whenever a new ATH is going to take place. We might cross the ATH in two or three days. We are almost close to $63k today. Better, yes its good to hold back all the coins we have now as other altcoins value would certainly boom up when BTC grows up.

https://i.ibb.co/LQZ07J1/A1411-F18-869-E-44-D3-BD2-D-920214-EF5380.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
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Yeah see you there @proudhon

This is all going to catastrophically unwind before the month is out. This ETF stuff is just making the dead cat bounce look tempting to those not as familiar with proven maths and science about the trajectory of bitcoin. No better time to short.

Look out for Bitcoin's all-time high 🆙 within the next 24 hours as at the moment Bitcoin is traded for 64.023 and that will change before the next 24 hours elapse. Bitcoin will break a significant benchmark this month and in November 70k Bitcoin price will be achieved. The steel hand-holders will have some good time this season.

You would continuedly say;

(opps seems like we've reached another ath but i would say it would be the last) and if the price hits up another ATH then
those words would pop out again which isnt surprising.

Dont know why people do keep on saying about final ATH considering that price is volatile and unpredictable.It could reach out
levels which we hadnt really anticipated.

very satisfying to see new ATH today for bitcoin. I strongly believe that the $70k price will be reached before the end of the month, and the $100k price will be reached before the end of the year. Unfortunately, altcoin prices haven't fully kept up with this increase. well, this is one of the most awaited moments, and the most loved by crypto custodians. congrats to anyone still holding back since its drop to $30k

People who thought that ATH was previously the final high seems to be thinking about buying bitcoin again when it drops  ;D

Proven WRONG again by your flawed maths and science lol

I think it's not gonna do a long run until 100k yet, there must be a price break before reaching that price.
I always think something bad will happen if the price keep going for like more than a week, so always preparing for something bad.
But in a long run, i'm sure it will surpass 100k maybe next year or another upcoming years ahead.

there is great hope for people who believe that the bitcoin price will reach $100k before the end of the year. ATH in April was broken and the price is still moving up, I think we will soon see a very big increase and the opportunity to reach $100k is wide open. since breaking through $50k the rise in bitcoin's price has been tremendous and there's no doubt that bitcoin is currently on a bull run trend.

We could not talk about a final ATH when we have a big bullish BTC turn, sometimes we wonder the reasons why BTC goes up or down in price, but this time seeing everything that is happening after the entry of the first ETF of BTC is inferred that this is why:

https://i.imgur.com/PhAdMq0.png
Source: https://blockworks.co/etfs-fuel-bitcoin-rally-70k-on-the-horizon/ (https://blockworks.co/etfs-fuel-bitcoin-rally-70k-on-the-horizon/)

Having these premises, I think that BTC is just beginning its bullish trend, it is likely to see the price of BTC this year at $ 100k.

We've now clearly completed what is essentially a double top (first in the spring, and now this one). This is the clearest and most devastating bearish signal in bitcoin's history and further confirms what will unfold in the future -- i.e. down, down, down.

In order for a double top to be confirmed we would need to see the price drop below $30K again.  I don't see that happening.  Also, we've already been over this once already.  All time highs occur in December.  Wait 45-50 more days and then bump this thread to keep from sounding like a perpetually wrong broken record. 

There are only a few moments in time when it would have been possible to lose money buying Bitcoin.  If you're seeing things as "down, down, down" then I would recommend you zoom out a bit on the chart or try reading it right side up.

No i don't believe that it just your own belief that "Bitcoin will down"  ;D, stop thinking that dude it will never happen happen, or just maybe you're out of your mind stop, don't spread FUD cause nobody will believe you.

Check OP's post history that you will find His past speculative posts for you to find see the attitude in most thread he create , Implementing Rumor at the same time for us to be ready for the future.

and besides why need to look at the negative side when there is a bright part behind this thread?


Hahaha Lol , i will reverse that Part , UP, UP, UP  ;D

yall know the game proudhon is playing right?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6425.msg94362#msg94362

Lol  I just voted on the "will bitcoin reach $20 this year"

A lot of you guys will be missing the context on the very long running sgbett posts.

He's been posting here for as long as I can remember, likely before samson joined back in 2012.

3. ? ? ?

This is why I like to see a sgbett post....they do have meaning  ;)

everyone can do their analysis and opinion and it's up to us to believe it or not, as long as you provide an analysis with good arguments at least we have to respect that because all have opinions that may not be the same and can be very different.

I also believe in what you say and I firmly believe that, that bitcoin will not go down and bitcoin will grow to continue to increase, and will reach renewable ATH by the end of this year.

Bullish trending on weekly bars and closing above (https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/12/AYCt8.png) prior closing highs, its very likely to challenge the whole area of 60k prices I think.   Till it shows weakness its best not to keep trying to guess a top and just being a near prior high isnt bearish by itself, especially as dollar is constantly losing value to acknowledged excess inflation this year, probably next year etc.
   Wait for 50 day average to be lost and other negative indications to move to that view.  My take is still fairly neutral for this year but I'm not standing in the way of a freight train with my estimations of where it stops.

@sgbett Arrived relatively late to the sgbett and proudhon parties but have nevertheless enjoyed them. Others seem to have fallen away (kwukduck for example I wish stuck around) but continue to derive much satiafaction and undercurrent readings from those who do bother do add context and deeper meaning... Not that I also don't enjoy pure speculation for the heck of it.

Do we really think we get to where we are without healthy diversity of opinion? The irony is to see proudhon being called a contrarian when that used to be a Bitcoiner label =)

He looks good now big drop.

By the way my fucking 70 k by May did not happen and I could end up be BTC's Jinx. ugh

I think saying the price of bitcoin will go down is not FUD because going up or down has become a part of bitcoin's life. no need to overdo it with these two things because both will benefit you. when the price goes up it gives you the opportunity to sell at a high price, when the price goes down it gives you the opportunity to buy at a lower price.

next target 70k , seems like its near to come before firing to 75k , I love the concept of this thread as you keep updating the Final ATH (in that certain time)

I wish that sooner you'll change the title to " Salute NEVER ENDING ATH of Bitcoin"  ;D :D


Salute to all who manage to make a profit this last ATH like me.

Never gonna happen. And once Musk pulls his money out, we'll be below $10k. Everyone should have known prices in the 60,000s are forever unsustainable. Seems like the market understands that now.

The whole whales theory bugs me every time, theres no power in one man.  If Musk captures a trend and provides a product thats unique and in demand by millions then he gets rich but its the masses that drive most economies and BTC isnt revolving around just a few people.
   Its broken the trend up, its lost the 50 day and until that changes otherwise we pullback which is quite normal.   Musk can go spin, it would be better if he werent involved really as I dont see how he added anything besides empty hype; people already think thats all BTC is.

I think maybe you only saw the second coming... I have been confirming bad news since 2014 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412280.msg4787951#msg4787951)! ;)

Back then I was joking, now I'm deadly serious!

Joking back then? What? And I even confirmed you to Confirmer General.

Indeed, I have missed out on so much, it pains me. On the bright side, it's like getting baptised for the first time to see posts like this.

Feeling good about December you guys? I'm a little disappointed (maybe even outraged) that not more people are converting to the bad news. I want my bargain December...

I can confirm that is the case, and my sauces are also confirmed.

::)

You are too busy looking at Bitcoin, but instead, I believe you should be looking at your fork of a fork shitcoin Bcash SV. The price today is actually as low as during the crash of March, 2020. If Bitcoin had performed like your shitcoin, it would be stuck UNDER $5,000.

Plus the world had the highest inflation in history because of record BRRR-money-printing, markets were surging, but BSV is actually still down from its ATH during 2019. That must make you truly an unhappy investor for HODLing one of the WORST “investments” of the cycle.

I can confirm that I am looking at Bitcoin. The Chinese sauce is also looking at Bitcoin. Bitcoin can confirm this 6 times. As you can see from experts here (https://www.quora.com/Why-do-you-need-to-wait-for-6-confirmations-for-bitcoins)

::)

I can also confirm that I am looking at the fork of the fork shitcoin called Bcash SV. It’s the shitcoin that underperformed the U.S. Dollar during the bull cycle. A cycle of BRRR-money printing everywhere, it’s impossible to lose. The BSV community, the flat-Earthers, must asking “WHY, HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?” Ending with less in fiat-value than what they had during 2019. Congratulations.

^^^^^Well, that's a lot of confirmations, and I do feel like it's going to be a couple more years at least before I revisit this and ask to add a pile of confirmations on top of these.

@Wind_FURY Playing Devil's Advocate, I would say the cashie holders are happy if the rate they can mine still exceeds the deteriorating rate of fiat value of their coin. Lots more to milk, and empty blocks, life is "easier" for a cashie miner maybe?

Final ATH? Are you sure about that mate? I know that this thread was published a year ago, but don’t be so sure about it being the final ATH.

Last 2017, we have seen Bitcoin having a dramatic rise of almost $20k before plunging down to $3k in 2018, and most of us are thinking that there’s no way that BTC will break that then-ATH anymore. However, we’ve been proved wrong. It broke the ceiling and going up even more to $60k+ before plunging down to $30k.

Months later, we’ve seen it breaking another ceiling and almost reached $70k before plunging down again. What’s the point here? Although there are no guarantees or promises that BTC will break another ceiling again, but always believe that it will can, but it doesn’t give us an exact date and time for it.

Holders happy? Their shitcoin’s price is the same as before the Pandemic Crash during March, 2020. Who would be happy? Plus what miners? “The miners” is just Calvin Ayre, and it’s mining profitability indicates very low hashing power, which also indicates that it’s not a secure blockchain.

You're preaching to the choir. Think the chain's already been 51% attacked a couple of times that I've heard of, so we know it's not secure. Actually still relatively cheap to attack ($13k according to crypto51.app). But it doesn't change the fact that it's probably still a relatively profitable venture to easily mine something that's still of the same value of 2 years ago, no? Or at least, one very happy Ayre then.

You said you wanted to play “Devil’s Advocate”.


Calvin Ayre is happy, but are Bcash SV HODLers happy? https://twitter.com/andrespollan/status/1185455536084541441

Because it still doesn’t change the fact that after BRRR-money printing, after more than a year of the bull market, it will end worse than its March 2020 valuation.

Yes, and that's what I thought I was doing -- the devil's advocate typically comes from the choir, do they not? ;) I only have Bitcoin, I just like sparring with OP

Anyway you agree that Ayre is happy. And we probably can't speak for other holders, so let's wait for sgbett to update here and shift confirmations of final ATH when we get to 70k.

I'm not in need of drama right now so I can wait.

OK? ???


I agree, because how can scammers and con-artists be unhappy if their scam shitcoin/shitchain still have newbie-victims who are buying and HODLing Bcash SV, believing that it's the "real Bitcoin"? Ayre VERY VERY HAPPY.

Forget crypto especially, just consider any free market system.   Do you really think anything Musk does is important overall, as a public figure with a big mouth sure I understand his visibility but is this really an important strut to your evaluation of BTC prospects.    The bigger question is dollar valuation vs greater population of BTC users, not one man not even one administration but what is the overall ongoing trend past present and future; the interplay in these factors give us a price long term.

FUD has an influence on the decline in the price of bitcoin. The goal of FUD is to scare investors by spreading negative news about crypto so that FUD can benefit from low prices.

I agree on what the guy above said, it is normal for bitcoin to go down and it is not a FUD because there is no other reasons involved but FUD usually came with a reason that are too negative that it can scare the people to sell or to not to invest with bitcoin. It is not bad when someone says that bitcoin will go down because that was their opinion and we also have our own opinion.

Sometimes we can also agree with what the others are saying because we also think that it will happen. FUDs can cause the price to decline but according to the op FUDs also helps the price to move up. That's cool, I didn't know that. I thought FUDs are all about negativity.

I believe proudhon and sgbett are probably having the JOMO feeling right now, but I do not know why they are not currently trolling. Are they really buying and HODLing the DIP?

The meaning of JOMO is in this topic, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5390052.0

8)

buying BTC!? oh boy...

for someone that replies to my posts an awful lot, you sure do seem to not read them!

Pesky lasers!

it looks like the latest ATH after ATH $69,044.77 - Nov 10, 2021 which will be anticipated has not been seen or at least shown itself, because every time there is an increase then soon there will be a correction again. Is bitcoin currently comfortable with the price that is formed and makes bitcoin look quite stable.

yes, it is clear that the initial target is of course at a price of around $70K and if it has passed, it is possible to reach a higher level. it looks like bitcoin doesn't want to correct below $30K which indicates it's time for bitcoin to increase and time will determine that.

going forward we will continue to see that bitcoin continues to make its latest ATH formation, because bitcoin will continue to do that and all hope and lots of investors. great institution, which has always provided the impetus for bitcoin to achieve that.

It was merely a joke by libert19 ser. The meaning of JOMO is, the "Joy Of Missing Out". It's when a person missed a golden opportunity in buying a coin, but the coin then later crashed without hope of a pump to save it. Or, if Bitcoin "died", it could also be a person who sold all their Bitcoins under $1,000 during 2015, or under $10,000 during the scaling debate? I believe there's definitely many of them.

I wish I could take credit for this but its one from https://twitter.com/KPDAD72

https://i.imgur.com/g6IJvs9.jpg

Where's proudhon when BTC is crashing  ???

Today bitcoin rose more than 6%, i hope to return to $30k soon in june and july can rise to $40k, of course we are tired of waiting for bitcoin prices that have not recovered, it's natural for many to panic and choose cut loss , but I will raise money to buy bitcoins before the price continues to rise.

prolly passed out with joy

The thing that makes me worry that right now is Bitcoin's opportunity to continue to drop, today the price survives in the range of $ 21K, and now the market looks red again and the opportunity to drop below $ 20k is very large, of course this is a difficult choice because if we sell it then We will lose money, I never hope the price of Bitcoin this year can pass ATH, if you return to $ 50k, of course, is a good achievement.

Choice is easy imo

It's money I see as spent and I will HODL it all the way to $0 or to $(never gonna have to work ever and live in luxury)

Don't worry, pretty sure that he'll be up again and he's probably trying to write all the stuff that he's planning to post in advance or maybe he just got tired of being such a BEARer of FUD and an advocate of negativity in the market that he left the forum altogether or he's busy working on his job that pays fiat.

im no trader but to my untradered eye this chart appears to contain confirmations indicating there are more ticks before, in fact there are more than 6. The chance of double spend here is astronomically small.

https://i.imgur.com/HUyViCF.png

If we look at ATH that has happened, November 2021 which reached around $ 69k, then we must be optimistic, the opportunity to pass ATH is very high because the number of users continues to increase, even according to data from reliable sources that in Africa the increase in users reaches more than 2500% in In 2021, this makes us not panic even though there is a price correction.

You might trick newbies and scare them, but you will be remembered as the person who made them believe that Bitcoin will not surge to another ATH again, WHEN it's in actual ATH again. Keep trolling, and continue the swindle of making everyone believe that BCash SV is the real Bitcoin. Bitcoin will reach six digits, and you will keep posting that meme. It will be laughable.

I think, we are still in the bearish market where people buy huge amount of bitcoins and hold for the price to increase higher before they can sell to make profits. I believe, the price just dropped down for those that missed the opportunity to buy BTC when the price decreased to $22,000 to use this opportunity to buy Bitcoin because the price just decreased to $20,000 few minutes ago in the market. The price is preparing to hit back to $50,000 for those that bought few months ago to start earning from their investment.

I hope that the price of ATH that has happened is around $ 69k, not the last ATH price and hopes to be passed in the current year even though the current price of Red Again, when in 2018 I once said that the price will skyrocket 2 or 3 years, and proven, maybe this It is difficult but I plan to buy more as long as I have money.

I also salute, but I also give some bad words on it.

Yes, bitcoin price is increasing gradually for people to start preparing how to make a good profits from their investment. Before the end of this month of July bitcoin price will move to $30 or $35k because the green light is preparing to remain stable through out of this month. It's never too late to buy Bitcoin because the price is still low for long term investors and short term investors to buy and wait for the price to go higher before they can sell to make a suitable profits.

The title alone is bullish for resolutely expecting BTC to become honestly weaker then Dollar in the context of their recent actions to undermine any long term value for USD.    All we are doing right now is discovering holes in the swiss cheese and just how close is the structure to collapsing, they arent fixing or reverting any of the previous damage.  The latest rate rises are just an adjustment to overall course which is failure of Dollar standard, its not a story most would give credence hence its a journey we have to progress along.  Unfortunately media is an echo chamber, reactionary more then any prediction.
   Criticizing prices for pulling back as justification for BTC itself declining in its own revenue is baseless, market deciding whatever USD price is external and arbitrary and in this case its subject to factors such as Dollar supply and FED policy etc.   

Venezuelan Bolivar Fuerte (https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/12/AsGYD.png) is up vs BTC this year, I presume from higher oil helping them.  Its 10bn to 1, celebrate that if you like but hopefully you get my point more has been lost then is shown just examining this year.

Don't be silly! I won't be remembered for anything at all. When the dust settles there will be so many others that will have much more memorable reputations than I :)

You WILL be remembered in the forum, as the person he kept on insisting that a forked shitcoin is Bitcoin, and that a Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto. Or you might also be right, no one will remember, and everyone will forget about Bitcoin Cash SV. No one is talking about it anymore after having the understanding that it was never a threat.

Let's see how this latest prediction plays out  ;D


Currently on Day 5 out of 30. The dumbest thing about this "guaranteed" prediction is that Bitcoin can easily spend 1 month above $20K, reach $30K, then drop lower at the end of the year  ::)

As naive predictions go, this is up there. It completely ignores that Bitcoin can have a dead cat bounce, for multiple weeks even months, before going back below $20K.

What Bitcoin-haters/BSV-Flat-Earthers have failed to understand is that the narrative during the current bear cycle isn't "When will Bitcoin die?", it's actually now "How low can I buy the DIP?" 8)

They will also never admit it, but they are defintely HODLing Bitcoin. sgbett, prove me wrong. You can't.

I don't understand why bitcoin has to fall below 20k again? Is this some kind of recognised scenario? Why can't it consolidate at current prices and then go down to say 40k. After which it would correct to 30k. After all, it could be that once it starts rising we will never see 20k again, just as we will never see 3k after 2020.

It's really strange that when the bitcoin price pumps for a day or two, the hope of people rises too much that they start thinking of 30-40K  bitcoin price targets. Similarly, if bitcoin dumps a bit people start expecting 10K-12K.
In reality, bitcoin is moving in a range and I expect it to remain in this range for one or two months before breaking up or breaking down. Both these scenarios are possible.

The effect you describe is because this is an immature market (as Michael Saylor would say). Everyone one and their mothers are trading or having opinions. Most of these people don't have the emotional stability to do calm and clear analysis. And the "professionals" think they know crypto but are finding out they cannot apply their knowledge to this market :)

You would really see for people to be that kind of impulsive when it comes to price changes where pumps could potentially reach out those speculation but we know that it wont really be that fast unless if we do see some very positive sentiments or news in the market which could potentially bring the prices up high and its true that on the time people do see its plummeting then we do keep telling about
those lowest of the low kind of price predictions or even saying that this market is done or over without even thinking back on how many times of crashes we do able to experience in the past.For noobs then it would be understandable that they would really be having those impressions because of lacking knowledge and awareness in the market but on the time that they are acquiring sufficient knowledge
then they would really just simply ignore these things and get used to it.

scenario. Maybe yes. but not too sure.

My only prediction is that the first collapse will be because of Luna. Do you believe.

As far as I remember, the situation was quite extreme when Luna treasury sold their Btc for a short time, meaning they did it forcibly which caused the market situation to fall very deep. from this chaos is accompanied by a strong enough FUD that some whales may forcibly sell their btc when market conditions are unstable.

whether this will happen again, I don't want the extreme market to seize the capital of new investors. We have to buy and hold like Saylor did.

I've been consistent and explicit about my BTC holdings (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375640.msg58771070#msg58771070).

Thats right. 0 BTC. Zero. Zarro. Nada. Exposure to XBT Provider in case of black swan.

BTC firmly under 20k again. Better reset that counter :)
 

I hope the ATH that occurs in November 2021 is not the last, this year I want to see ATH reach $75k or more, now is the time to invest, don't think too much about the future of bitcoin because everything is clear that bitcoin is the best and most profitable investment.

It will come...

I think your intention to buy more is certainly something very good because it will obviously receive a profit in due course, but it must also be remembered that the possibility of the funds that you will use will be held back for a long time to be able to achieve what you want to achieve.
I don't believe that there will be an increase in the near future but if there will be maybe next year and going slowly. I think your hope about ATH can happen again, maybe after the next halving period is over, there will be a significant increase again, and that's a long time.

I hope the bitcoin price will rise again soon and make new ATH again, the market is currently showing a positive sign because the price is already $24k, I'm sure if July can return to the $30k level then by the end of the year we can party again because the price will pass the ATH ever happen in 2021.

everything is of course the same as your hope my friend that the price of bitcoin can improve soon and can increase, but if we look at the beginning of the year only in March bitcoin can increase quite a bit, after that it is always difficult to get a good price, it doesn't have to be the best.

although the price can increase to $ 30K, I'm sure it won't last long let alone until I can get ATH, it won't happen this year. an improvement that is starting to improve is expected to occur next year until the arrival of the halving again, bitcoin begins to improve.
so ATH will probably happen at the end of 2024 or maybe in early 2025. so stay optimistic even if it doesn't increase immediately holding bitcoin is always profitable.

A big applause for the technical analaysis master OP proudhon. Here is a quick review of recent predictions:


Fail. Lowest price thereafter was $20,715 on July 27th. Close but no cigar.


Fail. Price has stayed above $20K since July 13th. This prediction couldn't have failed any quicker.


Fail.

Inactive since July 25, 2022?

Fail.