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We all know that Some coins prpjects not make it long
They die so what the main reasons?
And how far the coin will go even if its bad project?
Let's Say you buy very low cap coin but most of them will reach top 20 coins.
Look at the fact how Fast ada uni and aave went to top 20-30 coins.

Question is Where will be end?  Can the top 10 or 20 coins disapeare? 

So are there average statistics how far the coin goes Before it dies?

There are some reason why the project dead

1. Scam
2. Bankrupt / out of funds
3. Can't compete with the another platform in the market
4. It can't build a proper product

I think if it's a bad project and it will not be going to the somewhere, people will never trust it and then you can draw your own conclusion.

UNI, AAVE have solid products and the products can attract the hype from the community and that's why it can be successful coins.
That different with the crap project.

The top coins can disappear too and did you hear bitconnect? I think that there are not statistic about how far the coin goes but you can see the progress of this project from the its price chart.

Simply, it's a bad project.
How it became a project? Simply it is from the hype purposes only.
Devs tend to have those kinds of project for just quick bucks, then they'll just exit out of the project.

But how far the project goes on average?

I agree with you. If a project dies I believe it is because the Dev/s where not prepared initially to see that project through just to make some quick bucks from it. So I see it as someone trying to set up a Business and for you to do that, you must have all the cost analysis and what ever it will take from start up to finish and with contingencies. So it is the same way I see a Crypto project Development and once the Devs are able to have a clear roadmap and how to follow it through, those projects usually work out.

The die very soon mostly because they have very low amount of supporters therefore no one using their coin also because of scam that happens quite frequently, the time those developer of shady project grab the money is the time the project die because abandoned.
Also top coin could disappear but the decentralized coin that are among the top will hardly disappear, tether could disappear within night if the company behind it intend to remove their usdt but decentralized coin can't be controlled easily like that.

Think about it like this. A coin can only have one destination without doing anything: death.

And if you only can speculate on the coin and nothing else, then it is just how long it will take to die,,, the only way to change this is to add something else to the coin. Is it utility? Or is it community that later brings utility because of the spending and sending back and forth between the community members?

Most of the project that did not succeed is either having a Bad Team or some is really intentional to be scam from the start.

But What i wanna hear is Why keep in creating topic over and over , and some of them tackles almost the same discussion ?

Imagine you have created more than 200 topic being a Jr.Member?


Lol , That's correct..

As previously mention, 2 main reasons are scam coins, and "lets jump on the train" coins.
This basically means many projects just wanna join the ride, but offer no real value, or can't deliver it

There's no statistics that will probably tell a project will die soon, you have to find it on your own and of course scam project will not last a month so technically, its useless to deal with it. When investing, you have to do your own analysis, and know if that project is legit or not.

I have specific reasons before investing on a new project, first I have to know their purpose in this market and I have to know their unique contribution. Second, I have to know if the project team is committed to make the project more successful, including their personal information. Third, I have to go more on technical, if the supply is too much and if the price is over price for a new project like this, now this is my way of investing.

The developer does not have the ability to develop his project either because of a lack of funds or maybe his team is less professional in their field.

If the project has hype, watch until the hype is gone.

Of course, BCC was once in the top 10 CMC and now it's gone, because this is a ponzi token and ended up being a scam.

as work with developer gives of chance as turns with the option as delivering product and service, public audience to begins work with task of evaluation as might to follows with the decision of purchase and developer gains of supports as extensively to manage work on parts with the crypto finance.

There are many reasons why the projects will die like they fail to reach their target funds to develop the project, scams, team suddenly give up the project, lack of marketing just like that.. About the top coins will disappear?, that we never know when and how will end.

Project dies when it reaches zero, and most of the project reach that status in less than a year.

Probable reasons are there is no real use case because the project created with the intention of making money by the team or the project team follow the developments as mentioned in their road map.

Finally due to the bull and bear trend cycles.

They are not interesting.

Don't expect longetivity for bad projects.

You cannot be sure that most of them can reach to the top. Not all of them will reach the top coins. It takes time for them to be on that spot but if they cannot increase in the market cap, they can't make it.

So its Good to hold coin 6months to one year?
T  b sure no risk of losses?

I said mostly it happens in 1 year time frame it means it may die one day after launch, or 1 week after launch or at any time so there is no guaranteed rewards if you hold a project which is existing for certain time period.

There will be a chances in the future that top 10 to 20 coins will be replace by some other coins, also those coins ranked from 3 to 10. I don't include eth and btc cause I know that they will not be replaced. I think a project dies because of too many circulating projects and new projects engaging, delisting from big exchanges, and lack of development from the project's team. This is only an opinion of mine.  ;D

Mismanagement and greed is always one of the major reason that lead to the early down fall of most projects,
Some of the project that raise good money back in 2017 couldn't utilise the money effectively for the desired goal, I guess such huge money was too overwhelming for them and so they let their personal interest over cloud their sense of reasoning to focus on building and developing a project.

if the project only pursues a momentary breakthrough and there is no clear goal, of course the project will only be absent in the middle of the road and even close without any clarity, or the intended target is not in line with expectations

I think there are different types of projects. For example, there are certain projects which are absolutely useless and they look like a scam/useless from the very beginning these generally go much below their ICO/IEO price and would never pick up. A certain and most popular set of projects are those whose owners are very enthusiastic at the time of the beginning of the whole process but as time progresses they tend to lose interest in the project and therefore the project dies or they convert the whole project into something which is in trend like the DEFI wave that came recently. But out of all these projects, there is one project which gets some steam and they do one or two trials here and there and tadaa the price skyrockets and then the developing team generally begins the speculation play and just forgets about the project. This is the reason there hasn't been even 1 project which has been 100% successful in what it said in its whitepaper.

A coin which have managed to make it to top 20 and top 30 on coin market cap will hardly die cus it shows that the project is already successful and the company already earning money to keep the project progressing, the only circumstance which will cause such a coin to die is if another product comes on which is far better than the one in top 20 and somehow succeeded in beating the top 20 coin out of the market to replace it, and also, in a rare situation, the project gets abandoned, then the coin will definitely die a slow death, this are just the few of the many reasons.

there is no expiration date, if a project is active and continues to develop and offer innovative services it will be active and its value will grow.
UNI is excellent but it is definitely for those who already know this world, I am thinking of projects like CHZ that will reach millions of fans... each project will have its own user base.

I dont think that projects that are in the top 10 or top 20 at the moment can still die completely. At least if no major incident like a rug pull or hack happens. What can definitely happen though is that a top 10 project slowly loses relevance and therefore slowly but surely moves down in the market cap ranking. This already happened to some top 10 coins of 2018 like neo, iota or dash. So this will probably also happen to a few of todays top coins.

Everything in crypto is very possible, let's say the project got hack or etc. Let's talk about Bitconnect, i think he reached top 10 in cmc so easyly with ponzi scheme, thats why we really need to picky when we want to invested on something, don't just invest because of hype or following your friend without know what project your invested in.

On a market where everything is possible, its really hard to know what project will die sooner or later. An incident like this is inevitable, so it will always depend on the team developer on how they will handle this kind of incidents.

There's no tools to identify those dying project, maybe you can just see them being in active for the past months but it doesn't mean they are dying, you still need to confirm if they still have the chance for them to go up, or they'll remain at the bottom until they gave up.

Mismanagement and greed was a major part but if you look back majority of the projects that started wanted to raise money and improve their life style rather than coming out with projects that would make a change and since all the projects were raising millions of dollars even with shitty scope the scammers jumped into the market as well to take advantage of it. Overall majority of the projects were intended to be a scam to begin even though the ideas were novel.

actually, we don't know when a coin will die or not. however, the thing you need to know is, the signs the project or coin will die is, there is no progress from the project from year to year. And the thing that happens most of the time is, the CEO gets greedy and leaves with all the money. however, it happened in previous projects. in addition, interest in the project has also decreased. if that happens to the coin you're targeting, I think you need to stay away from it.

Questions of the OP are very subjective and it deviates from one project to another. But you can see some warning signals if the project is going to be a crappy one like employing fake profiles. In terms of longevity, check how often they publish updates and the use case of the project. If they are very slow and it seems they are not doing anything, just be on the lookout as they may be in the verge of exiting the game. Also, check for active users of their platform. Because the life of each project depends on its customer or users.

Well, Most of the time project dies because it’s unable to fulfil the requirements it was supposed to.
Other times-
There’s a better product compared to the previous so most people switch / this one is possible but unlikely.
Owners are stepping back from their coin (XRP Is the best example) 😂
The project turned out to be a scam after ICO ( this one is common)

A lot depends on the trend at this specific moment. If there is a hype around NFT-tokens now, other projects that are not connected with this are in stagnation. Even those that have innovative ideas and good teams behind them are not very popular now. I saw a hype around Defi-projects at the beginning of the summer and at the end of spring, especially yeild farming was trendy, but some time later, hype was over, and native tokens of such projects all went down.

There is a good possibility that 5 years from now three quarters of all of the top 20 coins will be different from what it is currently.

I think that it is important to understand the landscape in which we operate in right now. Lots of projects have no real usage case and are severely overhyped and destined for failure because of that.

Even with mega cap companies in the fiat economy, you cannot predict winners. The S&P500 index looks very different to what it was just 10 years ago.

depending on the project and the founder who will be able to lift the project in order to get a better project choice because it will die very quickly really need to be fast a lot of projects die because they were abandoned by the owner because if it fails it will definitely make it not run well then it becomes a big problem, of course, the project will eventually sink.

There are many reasons why a project can die. The first one would be that the project was always designed form the start to just be a quick cash grab for the team, so they just hopped on the current hype that is happening at the moment like Defi, NFT or play-to-earn games then they quickly created a website imagined a roadmap that is based on nothing and just launch the project on Uniswap or pancake swap and hope that they find a few poor fellas that ape in. After a few weeks it will be probably become obvious that the team is not delivering what they promise and the project will die.
To one of your other questions: I don't think that a project that is currently in the top 10 or 20 can really completely disappear anymore because those are all multi-million-dollar projects already so the only way that they would disappear would be a epic scam or a massive event like a hack or a critical error in the blockchain code or something.

Scam projects still happen. They are short-lived or long-lived. There are many reasons to conclude a project is really a scam or not.
Most scam projects are initially set up to get money and disappear. Past ICO fundraising projects, DEFI projects. The source code of these projects is empty and mostly copied from other projects for DEFI.
For projects that stop halfway because they have no money left to develop the project or the CEO stole money (print more tokens to sell them, take project money and run away, ...)
A good example of a scam project is BOS coin- the project that stopped developing the source code.
Oyster-CEO of the project printed more tokens and dumped them on kucoin.
Some projects stopped in the middle, of which I don't remember the names.
For DEFI there are dozens of projects.

it's because the developer is not able to manage the community well. because projects without community support that help their market continue to strengthen could easily fall.
many projects when open trade immediately declines and are unable to make developments. in a very long time, the community will definitely go out and look elsewhere.

Projects without strong foundation will end up to trash and become dead. It should have strong foundation in order to overcome the unfortunate circumstances that may happen along the journey. Funds, team, community, partnership, and target with passion to pursue the goal to success should be high and determined. Weak project will fade. But the top 10 are strong enough to stay longer in cryptocurrencies ecosystem.

many factors, actually coins don't last long, especially if the CEO and team are just greedy and are not solid as a team.  for that we who want to invest must carefully look at the development of the coin at all times.  and what is very influential is of course the coin is not good so investors are not interested.

Actually yes, the list of top tokens is also changing with time. What we can be really sure about is that Bitcoin and Ethereum must always be at the top. Other currencies are likely to become less popular. I remember that the top-10 was completely different some years ago. I saw Ripple, Ethereum classic, Litecoin there, but now their places are replaced by BNB, Solana and Cardano.

You describe the situation when we come across a scam, but actually even working and good projects may die. Sometimes they are too late, it means that hype of such projects is already over, sometimes they appear too early, it means that people haven't been ready for such ideas yet. Sometimes projects just don't have a proper marketing campaign, so there are very few investors. So research of general situation is also necessary.

Just like a business, there's no assurance that it will continue to operate in the future even how profitable they are now. Bad projects are those projects that do not have the intention to make the project successful from the very beginning, so we should avoid them and we will only know if we pay attention by making a research before investing. 

Not everything we see in the market now is opportunities, most of them disguise to be legit but in reality, they are run by scammers.

The top 10 positions change every year because many new or old projects are trying to develop their projects better. Sometimes, the new position can surprise us because we do not predict that the coin/token can replace the old coin/token already got a good position. This year, that position already changed and every coin/token still competes, so I think the position can change again at the end of this year. Solana is now trying to increase more and attract more investors so it could have a chance to lift its position.

Neither the top 10 - the top 20 can prove sustainable until it stops growing, cannot match trends to ensure the requirements of the user base it will gradually be left in the industry this.  However the top coins have their own mainnet to exist and the projects revolve around its platform.
Yes, Why Sol is growing because it meets compelling needs and is suitable for expansion so the Sol ecosystem is growing rapidly.

I can't ask how far would the Mercedes Benz car still be an item to buy, and when would it fizzle out that no one would ever ride or own one again, because I no it's a question that no one can answer except the owners and stake holders of the company and that when they decided to stop production and end the company even at that their products are already in circulation, I see no difference from your question to this, top coin will continue to be so until when they drop, which may be an attribute to degrading management, influencers, or other coins did well to counter act the falling coins current status.

The coin of the project in the top 5 trending list will have the popularity to become one of the top 20 coins of CMC, the support from the community has motivated the progress of the project so that the liquidity will increase drastically, so the project will last as long as the trend lasts and will fail to adapt to future trends then another new project will take that position.

To put it simply, a dead project is a bad project created for the purpose of short-term money-making scam and it only lasts for a short time or because a part of the project is not available Initial capital investment , No clear roadmap , Anonymous team, And ambiguity about future projects these are signs of bad projects.

There are so many factors that can lead to the failure of a project, and most times it has to do with failure of the developers in achieving their aims. A lot of projects find it difficult to grow, this might be as a result of lack of funds to promote the project and lack of a strong community behind it.

But for coins, that are in the top 20 on the coin market chart, it’s not going to be easy for such coins to fail, Because there is a strong community backing them up. Take for example, coins like ADA and Tron that has a really large community on the Internet, do you ever think that this coins are going to fail? That’s not going to be possible. The only coins that fails easily add the new ones that's are still unrecognized.

-Died because of lack of demand which makes liquidity and thats common sense.
-Bad project could go further if driven with hype but it would still end up on the same path
-Buying low cap isnt a good idea but if you do have that kind of gambler mindset then go ahead but it isnt that worth imho.
-Nothing cant be predicted but if you are good on looking with good potentials then you might have the chance.

Nothing do last forever in speaking with top ranks because it can be anytime replaced by something new or something better.

Yes it's true and many of them did not even reach the the market and the project just die down for lack of interest on the part of the developers

It's not sustainable and it has no usage anymore on the community

Some just lasted for a week the longest could run for a year




Yes there's always a possibility that coins from the top 20 could drop out of the race, it's advisable to follow coins you are investing


If it's a scam coin it will die once expose, if it's a proejct without usage it will die down once the developers left and neglect the project.

Yes, those two are of exception.

It's there to stay but if there will be some better altcoin than Ethereum, we might see it go below like 3rd or lower. But for bitcoin, it's the only one in the top 10 that will never be gone.

We've heard it many times with those projects that they will oust bitcoin but they never did.

There are many reasons why a project dies and it may happen commonly to new projects or shit projects or projects that don't have strong fundamentals.  Commonly they are:
- Projects with no fundamentals
- Projects with the hype created following only
- Shit projects
- Projects with the non-professional team so that they do not know how to develop the project
- Projects that only focus on crowdfunding or selling their token and will disappear after it
- Projects that do not make good development and progress especially in listing exchanges
- Projects with no real use
-project with very low trading volume and market cap

And about the top 10-20 coins, I think they have their strong reasons and fundamentals why they are at the top 10-20. So their chance to survive is higher.

No one knows if we do talk about on when it would gonna end and just like what other members been saying here that nothing to remains on the top.There would be always something better
on the current top coins in the market but it would still always vary with the demand because this is where things matter most.There are still some undervalued coins or projects out there
but didnt really get much attention and i dont know why and its up to you if you would risk on buying it.

Statistics? There's none and everything could happen in a  short span of time basing on communities interest.