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The Cybertruck was unveiled (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P_1_oLGREM) at the Tesla Design Studio in Los Angeles on the 21st of November in 2019. My intention is to pay for this Tesla using Bitcoin and document the experience here for interested parties to see how everything occurred.

If you're interested in making a purchase or taking a free Demo Drive from Tesla, please PM me for a referral link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=18321).  
Ordering with my referral link will get you 3 months of free Full Self Driving or $500 off the purchase of solar products.
It will also allow me to accelerate my Cybertruck order!


November 21st, 2019 - Tesla CEO Elon Musk unveiled the Cybertruck at the Tesla Cybertruck Unveiling Event in Los Angeles, California.  (watch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P_1_oLGREM))


January 20th, 2020 - I placed my preorder for the Tesla Cybertruck at https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck.  It required a $100 refundable deposit that was made using USD via a debit card.  The Cybertruck that was ordered is the DUAL MOTOR AWD model (more info on the Cybertruck here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Cybertruck)).  The price was $49,900 and I opted for the FULL SELF DRIVING PACKAGE which added another $7,000 to the price of the Tesla.

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May 18th, 2020 - Elon Musk announced via Twitter (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1262530589506273280) that the price of the FULL SELF DRIVING PACKAGE is being increased to $8,000 on July 1st of 2020.  This price increase will not effect preorders.

October 21st, 2020 - Elon Musk announced via Twitter (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1319164198241341440) that the price of the FULL SELF DRIVING PACKAGE is being increased to $10,000 on October 29th of 2020.  This price increase will not effect preorders.

March 21st, 2021 - Elon Musk announced via Twitter (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1374617643446063105) that, "You can now buy a Tesla with Bitcoin" overjoying Tesla and Bitcoin fans.  He also posted that the Bitcoin will be held (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1374619379929772034) and not converted to fiat!

April 15th, 2021 - Elon Musk visits Giga Texas factory in the Tesla Cybertruck (https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-giga-texas-visit-pictures-video/) where mass production is expected to begin at the end of the year.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/sqdHf.jpeg


May 12th, 2021 - Elon Musk suspends Tesla's acceptance of Bitcoin for vehicles (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1392602041025843203) citing energy concerns.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/squsZ.jpeg


June 13th, 2021 - Elon Musk tweets about Tesla resuming acceptance of Bitcoin for vehicles in the future (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1404132183254523905) once energy concerns are addressed.

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July 3rd, 2021 - Elon Musk stated the Tesla Cybertruck will have 4-wheel directional steering (https://electrek.co/2021/07/03/tesla-cybertruck-4-wheel-steering-hummer-ev-crab-mode/), a feature similar to GM's EV Hummer Crab Walk.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/sqHa3.jpeg


December 10th, 2021 - Cybertruck caught in 4K (https://electrek.co/2021/12/10/tesla-cybertruck-updated-design-spotted-test-track/) in new drone video showing off windshield wiper.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/sqStw.jpeg


April 7th, 2022 - The Texas plant is open and Elon Musk celebrated with a Tesla Cyber Rodeo Event (https://electrek.co/2022/04/07/tesla-cyber-rodeo-event-livestream-news-hub/).

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/0e4M9z/s3/aomdv_zlvrs.jpg


June 23rd, 2022 - The Cybertruck design has been "locked in" according to Elon Musk with production set to begin in mid-2023 (https://electrek.co/2022/06/22/tesla-cybertruck-design-locked-new-timeline/).


November 30th, 2023 - The Cybertruck has officially launched as a manufactured product with pricing announced and shipments beginning!


January 11th, 2024 - The first Cybertruck has been received (https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/heres-the-first-cybertruck-delivered-to-a-non-employee-congrats-to-susu2142-%f0%9f%99%8c/) by a normal (non-employee) customer!

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Price of the AWD Cybertruck when preordered: 6.59229 BTC
Current price of the preordered AWD Cybertruck: http://langrock.org/stats/btcval.png?usd=79900&size=13&bg=dddddd&fg=009900

I am not a fan of the Cyber Truck but if you like it, good for you. I’d rather have a Tesla car.

Historically, people have purchased a Lamborghini as a sign of their wealth from bitcoin. I suspect that people will start doing the same with their Tesla, as they can now universally use their bitcoin to but a Tesla and it won’t be converted into dollars.  

never heard of ferarri accepted btc but ferarri's are expensive and if you bought one people around you will think your a millionaire .
its a sign of wealth but mostly not from bitcoin but for the tesla ? the founder is btc investor so as its followers .

 the tesla trucks design was plain simple but what do we expect in a truck ? it will matter in the inside and its usage. grats og you rich guy

Interesting and unexpected. I've read so many times "when Lambo?" and not at all "when Ferrari?"
I know of guys buying cars for Bitcoin especially in the winter of 2017/2018, but I don't know rich people, these guys bought normal city cars.



Although it's not the Tesla I'd prefer, it's the first post I read about Tesla that will be bought with bitcoin.
Is there any estimation on when will they deliver your truck?

Forum should give one away, it would be good PR for bitcointalk.org and tesla!

They had me at bulletproof. 



The Cybertruck is all about substance over style.  The stainless-steel exoskeleton design is a game changer.



Elon has stated, "If we get lucky, we'll be able to do a few deliveries toward the end of this year, but I expect volume production to be in 2022," so your guess is as good as mine beyond that.  I hope to be taking a tour of Tesla's Gigafactory Texas facility sometime next spring as I've heard that picking up your truck in person will be an option that includes a tour.  It would be great to document the tour as well as the self driven trip home and I hope I get the opportunity to do so.  :)

You are right, bitcoin hodl'ers bought Lamborghinis to show off their bitcoin wealth. I updated my post accordingly.

It is actually a Lamborghini, not Ferrari. I think it was actually unusual for people to buy Lamborghinis with bitcoin, there were a few dealers that had merchant accounts with payment processors and sold a small number of cars with people sending bitcoin to their payment processor, but most of the time I believe people sold their bitcoin on an exchange, and used the proceeds to buy a Lambo.

The Cybertruck isn't something I'd buy to "show off" as there are certainly more expensive and flashy vehicles that could be purchased.  It's functionality and durability are things that have yet to be matched by any other civilian vehicle.  It's new manufacturing process makes it quite a bit cheaper than it's competition as well.  I think the more people learn about these trucks, the more coveted they will become.

If anyone was interested in a vehicle to purchase as a show of wealth, I think the Seabreacher (https://seabreacher.com/) would make a far better choice than either a Tesla or a Lambo. 
"Roads?! Where we're going We don't need Roads!!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3AfIvJBcGo)"

Nope nope nope. My Lambo takes the cake.  ;D

I am curious as to what you are doing that makes you need a cybertruck. Are you regularly towing heavy things? It does appear that Tesla has an advantage over other trucks with their cybertruck.

IMO, the cybertruck is ugly and I see no reason to buy one over a “regular” Tesla unless you are towing heavy payloads on a regular basis.

I certainly agree to this and imho it's one of the "points" that makes people not choose it.


I would rather go for a Tesla model X or a Maserati Levante.

I kinda feel like that Musk is trying to make a statement with the Cybertruck. It is apparently cheaper than comparable trucks, which is the opposite of prices of electric cars when compared to gas cars (gas trucks tend to get poor gas milage). Gas trucks also tend to have high profit margins for car companies. 

I added this to the OP.  Fun to see the price of Cybertruck fall so much in BTC terms so quickly.  Could you imagine what this forum's reaction would be if Elon posted here?
 "Tesla is a scam!  Elon Musk isn't being honest about the value decline of his vehicles!"  LOL

More seriously, this is a very good example of why things cannot be priced over time in BTC terms.  The price change is 100% a reflection of Bitcoin's exchange rate movement and nothing to do with the underlying asset, in this case the Tesla Cybertruck which has only become more valuable over this price period. 



It's more about what I can't do because I don't have a cybertruck.  Some people get it, some don't.  You don't, and that's ok. 

Elon Musk visited the Giga Texas factory in the Cybertruck prototype yesterday.  I imagine that must have been pretty cool to witness.  Construction of the facility has been going at breakneck speed and there's been some talk of starting Cybertruck production early at the Freemont, CA plant while we all wait eagerly for the Giga Texas factory to be completed and start rolling these babies off the assembly line. 

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/se0LP.jpeg

Its a cool idea.  And I am totally for it. 

And here it comes.


BUT.

I am Canadian and I also do not live inside a city.   Which means that a vehicle like this one must be able to 400 miles in the worse winter road conditions you have ever seen (you thought that Texas thing was bad lol thats a regular day here)  and do it day in and day out.  There's only a few vehicles that meet my requirements that are sold commercially. 

Out of the list there's very few that are Practical On top of being Able.

4Runners top the list.   I don't list jeeps due to the fact they rust to death so quickly and are always broken(they ARE able they just cost too much to maintain thus falling in to the unpractical category). My current 4runner has 254k miles and is a 2006  spot of rust on the back door.  that's it.   most jeeps tapped out at 10 years old without massive maintenance. my last 4runner was a 1991 tank that lasted for 500k miles and I Put it in the junk yard still running due to the rust was becoming a issue I couldn't stay on top of.

Electric Vehicles suffer badly in cold weather.  Their battery range is severely limited due the effects of cold on batteries.  A 300 mile range vehicle will be reduce to 200 at minus 15C.  LONG highways and lack of charging stations And long charging times make these vehicles very impractical in my opinion. 

I do love that stainless though.  Rust is the death of all vehicles here.  It doesn't matter how good and practical they are.   I wish my 1991 4runner had been made from stainless.  Id still have it. 

Elon reverses stance on Tesla accepting Bitcoin citing energy concerns.  Say it ain't so!  While he does leave the door open to accepting Bitcoin in the future, this doesn't seem like a good thing in the short term for the market and more specifically, this thread.  I intend to purchase a Cybertruck regardless of the payment method involved, but we'll have to stay tuned to see how this turns out as far as the Bitcoin aspect.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/seKKI.jpeg

Bitcoin mining was always using whatever electricity found, although I expect the hydro power be used much more.
However, I don't know what game Tesla is playing, since if they didn't sell and also don't plan to buy, they just hurt (for short term) the "value" of their investment (although they're still on profit, I know that too).

Now I wonder how long until SpaceX stops accepting altcoins.  :D :D

Guessing dogecoin will be tossed aside by him too since it's not 1% of BTC efficiency?.

Elon wouldn't come here. Not as  "Himself".

I wouldnt doubt he reads a paragraph on here once in a while.
I feel like elon played us , but I'd be lieing if I said I didnt see it all coming g a mile away. Hopefully this man loses his influence he has over crypto. Keep in mind hes still a noob to crypto. Just has enough capitol to look like a pro. If a man that smart showed up to crypto that late shilling doge of all coins ,it was just a venture. Didnt even have to think just would say "BTC" on his bio and wed get 10% boost. Retail investors are gullable af. 

I used to respect him and his ambitions still do in many aspects. But these days hes kinda just fucking the rhythm of things up. Starlink, now crypto. Seems kinda impulsive. 

I am sure he will announce in the near future that tesla can be bought using dogecoin. If you could wait sometime, you will be happy to spend cheap dogecoin and get something valuable as Cybertruck  :)

Elon Musk has left the door open for Tesla to resume accepting Bitcoin in the near future once positive energy trends have shown themselves in the data.  I suspect the Tesla Cybertruck will be purchasable with Bitcoin in early 2021 and suspect that I will be able to do just that.  It remains to be seen if I am correct or not, but at least this thread has some hope.  :)

Here's part of Elon's tweet where he mentions Bitcoin acceptance by Tesla.
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/seJea.png

They may or may not accept Bitcoin, depending how it suits them best in that very moment.
You may have better chance to buy it from El Salvador, and may also get their citizenship with this  ;D

Now seriously, I surely hope that you'll be able to buy it in the way you want it and also Bitcoin will be much more expensive/valuable til then, so you'll spend less.
(With some luck you'll buy the cybertruck at the price I've bought my laptop some years ago).

Elon Musk has announced that the Tesla Cybertruck will feature the "Crab Walk" made popular on the new GM EV Hummer.  This is expected to be unveiled when an updated Cybertruck prototype is shown to the public prior to the start of production later this year.  It's always great to see new features coming to a product you've already preordered and I'm glad to see some good news coming from Tesla on this project after the disappointment that has been Elon's trolling of crypto over the last few months.  This feature of course being referred to as "4-wheel steering" to avoid any legal disputes.  Add this in with self driving and I think it will change the parking game.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/sey1N.jpeg

One bloke I know only needed 2cm more than the length of his (small) car and he could park it. He prove it in front of me  ;) It was some 15-18 years ago and then he became truck driver and our roads have split.
Modern cars have now all the sensors and software needed for automated parking. Yes, they need some 3-4 extra cm which cybertruck may be saving, but I'd say that this is more a commercial and no longer a game changer.
I don't say that this crab walk may not have certain use cases, but I don't find the feature so much important. Self driving, on the other hand, remains really handy, especially on long trips on the motorway. *That* was a game changer.  ;)

And yeah, I'm still waiting for a real breakthrough in the science of batteries... That would be a huge leap forward and the (ultimate) breakthrough.

"As long as there is a conscious effort to move #bitcoin  miners toward renewables then Tesla can support that."
-Elon Musk

It certainly sounds as though Tesla will soon be resuming acceptance of Bitcoin for their products. I am fully expecting that this will happen and this Cybertruck will be purchased using Bitcoin. Hopefully in Q1 of 2022, but likely later as I think production will be slower than most expect.

You will be lucky to get in for December 2022.

I put in a preorder for 100 bucks.

Sadly this is true.  According to the Cybertruck Owners Club Reservation Tracker (https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/cybertruck-reservation-order-number-how-to-tell-your-place-in-line.251/) if there are no cancellations ahead of me in line, I'm looking at an estimated delivery date in the Summer of 2023.  I can only hope that a lot of those early orders were just for fun and when it comes time to make payment we see a lot of cancellations, otherwise this may be a longer journey that I had originally anticipated.

Welcome to the club.  When did you place your preorder and what model did you opt for?

Tesla Cybertruck delay confirmed, now coming in 2022 (https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-cybertruck-delay-production/)

I guess that it's even more delayed than you guys would think?

Elon said he didn’t want to start delivering them until he could do so at scale to avoid million dollar resales on the secondary market. The main factor for me will be how many people cancel their preorders. The $100 deposit is nothing but when it comes time to plunk down $70K you might see the numbers thin a bit. That is my hope anyway. I’d love to see a >50% cancellation rate so that there’s a chance I could get mine in 2022.

We all know that whatever Elon tells has to be taken with quite a pinch of salt...



OMG LOL! You are quite an optimist, aren't you? :D
I really liked your view on this. Good luck! (for real)

It makes sense though, at least from a moral point of view. I hate when the latest gadgets, and technologies go to scalpers, and they effectively rip off the public that are so desperate for it. Actually, while I hate the practice, I still blame the people willing to pay that amount I think.

You could argue he's just trying to give an excuse for delays in production, but I think its plausible to believe he's doing it for his reason given. It also looks great on Tesla, shows that they think about the customers which further increases sales.

There will be cancellations, a lot of them I would imagine. Three years is a long time to wait for a car, and you many people would have definitely put their reservation down just because rather than having any intention of buying the truck.

I think it's probably a bit of both.  Sure, he could produce a few Cybertrucks now but the risk far outweighs any potential reward, to which I would argue there is none in shipping a few units now.  So obviously he's going to wait until they can get production going at full scale before doing anything.  The benefit of that is he is able to take the moral high road and give himself a pat on the back while making it seem like preorders are getting a million dollar vehicle for $40K.  Wins all around.

It looks like Tesla has removed all the options from the Cybertruck preordering page. There is no mention of the different models whatsoever on the ordering page now. That’s an interesting development that hasn’t been seen before with other models. Hopefully it means they’re about to add a revamped page to finalize all the options and not bad news involving more delays.

When Bitcoin price was about $40k then Elon car price may be +6 btc but now Bitcoin price more than $65k today ...so page may update running weeks with price details...

I’m not sure exactly what you’re saying, but I doubt it’s any technical issue keeping them from updating the page. If I’m able to track the price in BTC then I’m sure Tesla can do it with no problem. I think more likely they’re trying to discourage preorders since they’ll never be able to ship them all.

In a tweet storm today Elon explained why the cybertruck models have been removed. Apparently they’re going to get rid of the single engine model and adding a 4-motor version. No idea how this will effect preorders as obviously something will need to be done. Hopefully we get the opportunity to upgrade without losing our spot in line. The 3-motor version was so insane I think a 4-motor version might have such unreal statistics it might be a must have.

https://twitter.com/wholemarsblog/status/1466485450638458880?s=21

Yup. I even heard Elon’s explanation of why it broke and that they fixed the issue with the doors breaking the glass prior to the ball being thrown due to the side impact of the sledgehammer.

My concern now is if this new 4-motor variant is going to be the first to be manufactured, how can I switch my order so I don’t have to wait another 2 years and will the self driving package stay at the discounted price as well as me keeping my place in line.

Cybertruck caught in 4K...

https://electrek.co/2021/12/10/tesla-cybertruck-updated-design-spotted-test-track/

Not sure how I feel about the current windshield wiper solution, but you can see from the progress they've made that this thing may even meet the street legal requirements.  It appears they may have changed the headlights as well from other pictures I saw.  This could very well be the first glimpse of the production model we've seen to date and hopefully that means the assembly line will get moving soon. 

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/seMEz.jpeg

There's been a lot of talk about the giant windshield wiper on the latest cybertruck prototype.  People were hoping for lasers to remove water from the windshield after a Tesla patent on the process was made public.  There is still hope though, as Elon made a couple of tweets addressing the subject for those who found the windshield wiper pictured in the last post to be abhorrent.

"There will be a few tweaks before production" (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1469428197011992576)

"Lasers can do anything" (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1469450311639220229)

"That is not the production wiper" (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1469538878688276483)

I still don't think Tesla is going to reinvent the windshield wiper with lasers, but you gotta give it to Elon to fuel the fire when he sees an opportunity.  I love that about him.

The windshield wiper is longer than the truck bed LOL. I think this video made Ford execs really happy. They have a real electric truck coming and this just shows what happens when a 5-year old's drawing meets reality.

Although to be fair to Elon, if not for those pesky government regulations, Tesla fanboys would buy the truck even without wipers. Or side mirrors.

There has been talk that the windshield wiper may utilize a different patent of Tesla's known as the Regen Wiper Blade.  One where the force of the wind pushes the wiper up and that energy is captured and used to help power the system.  Basically turns the windshield wiper into a wind turbine.  This seems a little far fetched to me, but no more than using lasers instead of a wiper.  Elon continues to claim the Cybertruck will be a technological powerhouse, so we will see...  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w9W6ISh5hE

Talk about the wiper blade system starts at 7:27.

Couldn't they make it telescopic? I.e it's a third of the size or so but it can extend and retract when needed or not? It does look pretty unsightly right now.


That doesn't sound feasible or practical to me.

I'm not a Tesla fanboy or even fan and their other cars look average and overpriced to me, but I love everything about the Cybertruck and would certainly buy one if they accepted bitcoin again. My only fear is that they won't be street legal in the UK. They're going to have to scale it down even further to make it viable for UK's smaller/narrower roads.

A relative of mine is buying one. I think it's ugly.

Telsa delays production of Cybertruck to 2023: source
https://news.yahoo.com/telsa-delays-production-cybertruck-2023-051515648.html



Sorry, not some pleasant news. But imho also far from unexpected. I guess that those waiting need more hope and patience.
On the other hand, with some luck, it may cost way less bitcoin to buy it ;D

Might be a problem with the batteries  :)

https://i.imgur.com/MwZk8xs.png

Sorry .. couldn’t help myself  :)

I'm starting to wonder if the Cybertruck will be completely different by the time it actually gets made commercially or look not much like the prototypes. The biggest thing I like about it is how revolutionary it is in design and it doesn't look like any other vehicle and could be something out of a sci-fi movie ala Blade Runner. Another thing that worries me is it might not even be street-legal in the UK:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2019/12/16/tesla-cybertruck-not-street-legal-in-eu/?sh=61072b544d8b


Though maybe the UK doesn't have to abide by European Union standards now after Brexit, but I'm not sure Elon would go to the trouble of changing all that stuff just so it could be sold in Europe. It seems like it would need a from-the-ground-up overhaul just to be legal and it might not even be financially worth doing so. Trucks aren't as popular in the UK as elsewhere and the pre-order stats for Europe pale in comparison to North America:

https://electrek.co/2020/03/28/tesla-cybertruck-top-10-countries-reserving-electric-pickup-truck/

Top 10 countries for Cybertruck pre-orders

  1  United States (76.25%)
  2  Canada (10.43%)
  3  Australia (3.16%)
  4  United Kingdom (1.39%)
  5  Norway (1.11%)
  6  Germany (1.05%)
  7  Sweden (0.83%)
  8  Netherlands (0.67%)
  9  France (0.44%)
  10  Iceland (0.44%)

Yeah that's PR bullshit... they got (allegedly) so many preorders that it must be already very compelling, just make it and sell it, and count the billions pouring in.

Except they can't, can they.

With the mess that is our current supply chain, grocery stores can’t even keep items on the shelf. I can only imagine the difficulties and delays that is costing companies like Tesla. I wouldn’t be surprised if we had to wait for a new president that has a clue to fix the mess at the ports before things can even start making their way back to normal. Until then, we wait for this monster of a vehicle to be produced and enjoy the leaks.

I am thinking that when they announced it, it was the only thing for a vehicle like that.
Now that there are many more electric pickups on the market and coming to the market it has to be better.

This has always been the issue with vehicles that are announced way ahead of time, by the time they get into production, years later it's no longer the latest and greatest since so much time has passed.

And, with something like this, and this is just my opinion, we don't know the real number of reservations. They just asked for $100 down, that really is throwaway money for a lot of people. With something like the F-150 being available in the next few months and the GM in a little over a year it puts Tesla in a hard position. Outside of the looks, which most people who are buying a pickup for work really don't care about, it's just another tool. And I think there are a lot of people who are missing that. I can point to 2 people who wanted one, because they wanted an electric pickup. They don't need the range, they don't care about the looks, it's a TOOL to get their ladders and saws and wood and pipes from point a to point b. For the most part even a 100 mile range is overkill. They don't need 3000lb of cargo 1/2 ton or 1 ton is more then enough. And so on. So when it was the only game in town they got a lot of hype and reservations. Now they might be seeing those numbers shrink as people go elsewhere.

Personally, and I think I am the only person on the planet who thinks this, I would love it if Hyundai made an electric Santa Cruz. Would sell my car and get one tomorrow.
Because that is what I need, a small electric pickup. I don't need larger. I need smaller. But, I do believe that I am a VERY small segment of the population.

-Dave

^ I hope everyone that preordered ahead of me goes elsewhere. I think most who preordered realize the innovation of the exoskeleton and would laugh at any comparison to an F-150. Personally, I don’t even want an F-150 and wouldn’t trade the car I have now for it as there’s no real innovation there, but I’ll wait another 2 years for the Cybertruck if I have to. I think it’s tough for many people to realize innovation before it’s demonstrated to them, which is why there are still people who don’t realize this will be the greatest civilian vehicle ever produced.

During TSLA earnings call (not sure if transcript is available yet) Musk said that CT may launch "hopefully" next year and one of the main issues is pricing.

So much for a $40k tonka truck.

I just hope I can upgrade to the 4-motor version and keep my 2-year old preorder spot in line. They’ve been adding so much awesome tech to the cybertruck since being announced. It’s almost hard to believe that such an amazing vehicle could ever exist outside of a video game. If it can live up to expectations and I can live long enough to own one, the adventures that will be had…

Elon has been enjoying driving around in Texas this week in the latest prototype. I’m so jealous. I guess being the richest man in the world has it’s perks.

That big windscreen wiper that everyone was complaining about doesn't actually look too bad in the new video that was leaked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v5Gayy_EOI

https://www.notateslaapp.com/images/news/2022/cybertruck.jpg

I'm guessing they'll probably trim a bit of its length off anyway. It probably only needs to cover the driver's field of view and it looks to go right to the top of the roof which probably isn't necessary.


The Cybertruck is in a whole different class of its own though in my opinion. People will want it because it looks like nothing else. I couldn't care less about a pick up truck and would never own one but the Cybertruck is an entirely different beast. If people just want a regular truck then they will almost certainly just buy one of their competitors but there's really nothing exciting about all the other EV pick ups.

Rivian's for example:

https://www.reuters.com/resizer/ZDR3G24Q0qw7CBl6_KdGsBI7VoQ=/1200x0/filters:quality(80)/cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/VMMXKC74LBKSVLUBPQ5SWDX64A.jpg

https://www.inverse.com/innovation/tesla-cybertruck-alternatives-rivian-jeep-gmc-hummer

They all just look like regular trucks but upgraded slightly. I'm sure the people who love pick up trucks will dig them but I think the Cybertruck is going to be a real head-turner.

If it's shorter it won't sufficiently clean the right side of the windshield, which is still within driver's field of view and by regulation a certain percentage of that area needs to be wiped. There is a reason why most cars have a second wiper (sometimes a ridiculously short one) or have to resort to various articulation tricks like old E-class. There is also a reason why wipers typically rest on the bottom and not the side. But I guess Tesla will defeat geometry and physics.

It’s out there charging. I’m glad we’re seeing more and more shots of this beast. From the pictures you can see the charging port’s location confirmed. Hard to believe it could be another two years for these things to hit the streets. I think that has more to do with supply/production issues then anything else.

https://insideevs.com/news/564011/tesla-cybertruck-prototype-spotted-supercharging/amp/

Elon Musk just tweeted about a Cyber Rodeo at Giga Texas on April 7th. I think that’s pretty clear that a Cybertruck update announcement is coming soon. With any luck the factory is close enough to completion that a date can be announced for the beginning of production for the Cybertruck. At the very least I’d love an update on the pricing, models, and what sort of options are available for those who have preorders. With the discontinuation of the single motor variant and the addition of a quad motor variant, an update on the plan for potential buyers moving forward is beyond due. Looking forward to why information this event brings.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1507596559831101446?s=21

Tesla's Cyber Rodeo event will be going down in just a couple of hours.  You can watch the live feed and get the play by play in the link below.

https://electrek.co/2022/04/07/tesla-cyber-rodeo-event-livestream-news-hub/

Nobody really has any idea what will be discussed, but there have been some clues.  Both the Cybertruck and the Semi have been spotted at the factory and can expect to be discussed during the event.  I also noticed a post on twitter showing what appeared to be a flashy entrance for a much smaller vehicle.  Difficult to tell from a low quality video with no description, but I would guess we might see and learn more about the full sized Tesla Cyberquad.  Perhaps even a price and availability date.  The kids one is hard to get ahold of, but is for sale on their website if you have Dogecoin to spare: https://shop.tesla.com/product/cyberquad-for-kids

My deposit has been in for a very long time.... waiting.

Great.. I appreciate your conviction and passion for bitcoin. I am sure bitcoin will see another bull run in near future, with mass adoption. I also have some plans like you and I will also share my story with all of you.. Still working for it..

So, I've actually become increasingly interested in getting the Tesla, except most don't have enough range for me. Whereas, the Cybertruck is estimated to be having 500 miles of range, so probably safe to assume it'll get at least 400. The thing is where I live it is rather hilly, and the lack of charging points is quite evident when you compare it to the USA or even England. So, range is incredibly important. However, after coming to the decision of actually finally reserving it, they've removed the order button for UK/Europe.

I think it's to do with laws, and how big its going to be. So, safety laws. Makes sense, I remember hearing the dimensions on the reveal, and thinking that would never fit in Welsh lanes. However, I guess that would need to be worked out rather than just assuming.

I guess for those living in the UK, we'll have to order it from the USA, and have it imported, as long as it's considered road legal. The thing is most of the other cars in their inventory doesn't interest me. Model 3 doesn't have the range, but I nearly pulled the trigger on it a while back, and the model S plaid looks promising, but the price is just too much to justify.

This at least provides that range, and for a somewhat reasonable price. Plus, I'll be honest the specifications, and the look has grown on me over the years. Typical when its no longer available.

Range is less important for me, but I'll admit that I hope I'm able to upgrade my order to the flagship 4-motor version (maybe a Plaid version).  Mostly because I'm not sure how much longer I can wait for one of these and that model will be built first, but also because I think it might be the most awesome civilian vehicle ever built so I might as well go all out... 

As we get closer to 2023, I hope we see a plan emerge for how they'll be handling preorders and upgrades.

The thing is you might as well upgrade the damn thing. The quoted price, although it has risen is much more bang for your buck than what's on the market right now. Especially, when you consider its speculated durability. Especially, if you're going to go offroading, and abusing it a little bit.

Yeah, I've been looking into Tesla's for a while, and considering here in the UK all new cars sold after 2030 will need to be electric, I thought it's best to do the research now. I imagine by that time electric chargers will be widespread. However, I've read about range anxiety in places with plentiful chargers, i.e in certain parts of America, and I'm wondering what the peformance of a Tesla would be in British weather, with very hilly terrain thrown in. I suspect, it'll be much less than what most Tesla drivers are getting out of their machine.

Although, from what I can gather due to the nature of batteries, it actually performs best at lower temperatures, well not extreme temperatures, but I believe around -10-10c. Don't quote me on that, that's just the figure I have in my head.  

If it wasn't for the lack of chargers in Wales specifically, I'd probably would've opted for the Tesla 3 performance model already.

I'll admit, I was sceptical at first. I had mixed feelings, and that's why I didn't end up pulling the trigger in the end. However, now especially in the electric field this is the vehicle for me. I might contact Tesla, and see what they say about taking the order off UK, and whether it was law related. Since, for a machine like this I'd be willing to import it over if it's still road legal over here.

Let me know if you want me to put in a preorder for you. I’m sure we could work something out.  ;D

However, I’m sure some of these things will make their way across the pond for sale before a preorder made now would ever ship. I even question if someone placing a preorder now would ever receive one, given the amount of preorders made and their limited production ability.

Yeah, I'll have to keep everyone up to date on it. I'm trying to find out was it pulled because of limited production or was it pulled because of the extra laws in European, and UK countries. It seems that currently those that have pre ordered over here, haven't had an email telling them its cancelled, so in their mind they're still getting it.

Not sure if Tesla support will actually be able to answer the question, but I'll send over a email to them to find out.

I wouldn't put too much weight on that pre-order thing they did (or them removing it) anyway. It's largely meaningless. It will have been a little bit of fishing for info on interest, free advertisement for tesla and the pre-order cash probably boosted their cash balance and end of year financials a bit. Most people probably won't end up actually going through with the order especially once the actual price is revealed (which I'm sure will be a hell of a lot more than was initially stated - possibly even double). I'm sure a lot of people did it out of excitement and FOMO rather than having 100% intent to purchase it and they were offering refunds for it anyway so most people have nothing to lose by pre-ordering. I'm not even sure it's 100% certain it will go into full production or maybe it'll be limited. The design might even be drastically different to what the initial design looks like. It could end up looking like a pale imitation of the original and certainly not as spectacular. Like you also said, it sadly might be both far too big for UK roads and probably not even road legal at all given the shape and material it's made out of. The UK/Euro Union is big on pedestrian safety and it might not be anywhere safe by their standards so they might either have to make some huge sacrifices to it or just forget about the Euro market completely (though does the UK have to abide by EURO standards now since Brexit?). Either way, I'm hoping it does make it's way over here even in compromised form but I would just wait until you can actually go see it in the showroom before making your mind up about buying one. It could end up being a complete disaster or at the very least a disappointment given it was initially presented as something so unique and futuristic.

The Cybertruck design is now "locked in" according to Elon Musk.  This comment accompanied an updated timeline from Elon with production now set to begin in mid-2023.  This means 1 year from now these beauties should be rolling off the production line and ready to go to their new homes.  When exactly we'll find out the options and how payment will be made, as well as if we can update to the newer 4-motor option is still a mystery.  For now though, we should be glad that the Cybertruck has an official blueprint and has passed the design phase.  Maybe 2 years from now I'll be able to drive one.  :)

https://electrek.co/2022/06/22/tesla-cybertruck-design-locked-new-timeline/

Ok for some, but I wonder how long we will have to wait before we find out whether they're even road legal elsewhere like in the UK and Europe? It's also going to be interesting to see if they can keep the price down as well. There's no way I can see these trucks being the cheapest Tesla. I'd be very surprised if it's not nearly double the initial price quoted.

Elon Musk now says Tesla could start Cybertruck deliveries in mid-2023
https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/20/23272045/tesla-cybertruck-delivery-middle-next-year-q2-earnings

Looking like Elon is planning to get these trucks out on the road next year.  Whether or not myself or others who didn't preorder on day 1 will be able to get them next year is another story, but it will be nice to see them hitting the streets.  I suspect there will be limited deliveries in the beginning and likely plenty of unforeseen problems, but there is hope that maybe the wait is coming to an end.  Now that the factory is nearing completion ("nearing" is debatable), it seems like the Cybertruck is going to become a reality.  I'll be anxiously awaiting any developments.

and now Tesla sell 75% bitcoins  :'( :'(

https://youtu.be/N8gyauJ3gxU?t=1

I have a preorder in we will see what happens next year.

It will be watered down even more, and will cost six figures... like everyone except Elon's fanboys been saying for the last three years.


What "changed" is that reality started catching up with child's drawings.

As I said before, I'd be very surprised if it was released at that cost price or anywhere near it. How can it possibly be the cheapest Tesla? It wouldn't surprise me if it ends up being one of the most expensive if not the most expensive. I'm sure it will be more close to 100k than 40. I also don't think I'd be shocked if it never makes it to production either as with many concept cars. It would be a shame but how successful will it be if it's post 100k? It'll probably just be a niche item for the rich who like it for it's uniqueness.

Instagram:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Tesla_Cybertruck_outside_unveil_modified_by_Smnt.jpg/1200px-Tesla_Cybertruck_outside_unveil_modified_by_Smnt.jpg

Vs reality:

https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Home-Made-Tesla-Cybertruck-1-1024x555.jpg

Never make it to production? They just built an entire factory for it… I get that hating on other people’s products is a bit of a theme around here, but Tesla care what haters on this forum think. The Cybertruck is going to be made, it’s going to be badass, I’m going to own one (if I can stay alive long enough) and what I’m most looking forward to is all the hate from people who don’t understand what an amazing innovation the exoskeleton is. I just hope they produce mine before these things start turning smart cars into pancakes and Tesla is forced to stop producing them.

Tesla does or doesn't care? I don't believe they built a factory solely for Cybertucks but even if they did I'm sure they will just produce other models there if it doesn't go into full production. I'm not a 'tesla hater' either. More of a Cybertruck realist, but it sounds like you might be one of the Tesla fanboys suchmoon mentioned above. How do you know it's going to be badass? I really hope it is, believe me. I've said in this very thread I don't think there's a vehicle I'd like to own more right now and would buy one today if it was around 50k and looked like the prototypes, but is it going to be? I really hope the thing is a success as I don't think I've seen more of a futuristic and individualistic vehicle but I think there's dozens of things that could go wrong with this or stop it from being a huge success. They really need to keep the costs down but I struggle to see how they can make a profitable car at a reasonable price. In its current form it almost certainly won't be road legal in Europe and many other countries without some significant design changes and I can't see what changes could be made to make it safe without completely changing the design/look. I'm really hoping Elon can get all the issues worked out and would happily love my cynicism of the project to be proved wrong but I am very sceptical. There just seems to be far too many issues and things holding it back without the original design being greatly compromised or going way over the stated retail price.

I have no problem being a Tesla fanboy.  They make awesome products.  I've found that typically it's the people who have never owned a Tesla product, like suchmoon, that just hate on things because they are miserable people.  It's no wonder these types of people go around spreading negative feedback everywhere.  The misery they seek is within and not coming from Tesla, but they would rather hate on those that are doing things than acknowledge that they are themselves of little to no value.  The Cybertruck is a massive step forward in vehicle production and so of course smart people know it will be badass.  It doesn't take a genius, just someone who understands production and what innovations are being implemented on this vehicle.  As for the retail price issue...  "If you have to ask how much it costs you probably can't afford it," is a quote that comes to mind. 

Because Elon Musk said so, and every word coming from his mouth is true right? Right??
Remember his Bitcoin stunt and circus show with dogecoin, he is doing the same thing with Twitter and everything else, so why would cars be any different.
I basically think this truck will be perfect tracking machine and you probably won't be able to drive it when Elon clicks his shutdown button from his satellite, but who am I to say anything if someone likes that.
Enjoy tesla trucking... honk honk!

You sound like you're in a cult.


It's a vehicle, not a Picasso. A utility vehicle at that, and not like a collectible rare edition right hand drive Ford Pinto. If it costs beyond what comparable vehicles plus any unique features are worth, it's a shit deal no matter how you twist it. I mean the brick shape might be worth a million bucks to you and you're welcome to waste your money on it, but that's not objective value.

The latest Cybertruck news of the day...
A prototype Cybertruck has been spotted in pretty bad shape on the side of the road.  The article doesn't seem to detail what happened to it, but it's safe to say they're doing some ongoing testing on this beast.  Love to see it... 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technologyinvesting/extremely-beat-up-tesla-cybertruck-spotted-on-public-street/ar-AA11eGvs

Elon seems focused on his AI update for Halloween, but I suspect after that it will be all Starship & Cybertruck news for several months with perhaps some Tesla Bot teasers sprinkled in. 

This morning Elon tweeted more news about the Cybertruck.

“Cybertruck will be waterproof enough to serve briefly as a boat, so it can cross rivers, lakes & even seas that aren’t too choppy“
&
“Needs be able to get from Starbase to South Padre Island, which requires crossing the channel”

I think it’s been teased before that the Cybertruck will be waterproof for short periods of time but being advertised as having the ability to briefly function as a boat is pretty interesting. This is going to be one hell of a vehicle.

And you really believe this crap Musk is saying?  ::)
I guess soon you will be able to use it as a time machine, just like in Back to the future movie.

Why don't you check what Tesla owners in Norway are doing with their hunger strikes, yes you heard it correctly they hunger strike because their Tesla electric car is so ''great''.

https://www.newsweek.com/disgruntled-tesla-owners-hunger-strike-over-car-faults-1739319

Oh and never forget all that shitshow Musk did with Bitcoin.

Yes.  This isn't the first time he's claimed that Teslas are waterproof to some extent and the fact that this seems to be a design choice he's made now and he even gives a specific use case of traveling from Starbase to South Padre Island, I do believe him.  I can't wait to see these things skiing along the channel.  I'll admit the idea of a chunk of steel floating across a body of water seems a little crazy, but no less crazy than sending people to Mars.  I believe he'll do that also.  I do enjoy the doubters though.  Hopefully they can talk some folks out of their preorders so I can get mine sooner.

It will need propulsion and steering in water though... maybe they can use the giant wiper blade as a rudder.

Come to think of it, they could also make the wiper blade spin really fast and make it a flying car. Musk is a genius.

I think we can see where this is going. There is no way CT can be road-legal in some (or most) countries so they make it a boat. Boats tend to be large, heavy, slow... perfect pivot.

Elon shared some details about how he thinks "boat mode" would work on the Cybertruck.  His ideas range from an "electric propeller mounted on the tow hitch" to a "a creative wheel hub design that can generate meaningful thrust."  I think the wheel hub design idea is probably enough to cross the 477 meter channel that Musk wants the Cybertruck to be able to cross, but seeing people stop and slap an electric propeller on their Cybertruck before crossing the ship channel would also be fun to watch.  Let's hope Elon makes this happen, although I can't see myself ever conning a Cybertruck across a body of water.  You never know...

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-boat-mode-details-elon-musk/

Guess he watches too much Top Gear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVjo6YOT3Zg

Local authorities are going to be drooling over the amount of money in fines they are going to make when people put a vehicle in the water that does not meet coast guard safety standards and does not have the appropriate safety equipment on board. Does not matter if it's a cybertruck or a bunch of logs tied together to make a raft once it's above a certain size and weight and is floating in open water you better have a hull number, life vests, flares and so on. And don't forget the proof that you took a boater safety class.

*I* got dinged in AZ helping a friend launch his boat at Salt River because he pulled the truck away and I looped the boat to shore without loading the vests and safety equipment. The only thing that saved me was the fact that I could whip out my NY boater safety card followed by some jagoff in a jet ski that came whipping by with a radio so loud I think they heard it Phoenix so he decided to stop yelling at me and take it out on him.

-Dave

This talk about props and hubs sounds like they're thinking of selling a "boat package" for $25k extra and as part of that they could throw in some life vests too. But I would like to see an insurance quote on a vehicle that can "briefly" serve as a boat LOL

The idea is dead in the water, pun intended, like most of Musk's stoned tweets, but CT desperately needs PR now that actual electric trucks are on sale already.

 ::). I think Elon should just concentrate on making a viable vehicle first without all this pie in the sky nonsense which will only delay the truck. Nobody needs a car that's also a boat but if he wants to waste time on that it's something he can think about as another addition after the actual truck is ready, but it's obviously just a fantasy at this point and he needs to concentrate on making sure the truck isn't one too. All he needs to do is get this thing road legal and in production and it's a mega win for him just as long as the it's not ludicrously priced so much so that nobody actually buys the thing.

I don’t think anyone is planning to use a cybertruck as a boat. It’s just a cool feature that shows once again how far ahead of the competition Tesla is. What I do think it will be good for is situations where a little water can leave you stranded or at the risk of paying high fees. Where I live it isn’t uncommon for roads to be impassable in heavy rainstorms because the roads weren’t meant to handle drainage well due to the lack of rain year round. They even have a law called the stupid motorist law for vehicles that get stuck in washed out roads.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_motorist_law

With a cybertruck, not only will this law not be a concern to your pocketbook, but not being stranded may save the lives of your family in an emergency. If Elon’s trolling you too hard with this latest proclamation, just wait til he starts touting it’s ability to handle bioweapon attacks. :)

Competition: makes and sells electric pickup trucks
Elon: tweets about an electric pickup truck that can also be a boat even though no one is planning to use it as a boat

Yeah I don't think that's "ahead". If I tweet about a space ship slash submarine, that doesn't make me "ahead" of SpaceX.

With the giga press being delivered to the newly constructed Texas facility, it’s only a matter of time now until Tesla is able to produce the most innovative vehicle since the Model T. Such a massive engineering advancement, only forward thinking individuals can even grasp what innovation is occurring. The article goes into a bit of detail about what a beast of a machine the giga press is. This was the final piece of the puzzle for the Texas factory and they’re now expecting production to only be a few months away. They have so many preorders though, I think a realistic date for myself to be behind the wheel of one of these beauties is probably late 2024.

https://insideevs.com/news/615413/idra-9000-ton-giga-press-tesla-cybertruck/amp/

Did you know that water and air reacts with batteries used in this electric cars and it acts almost as fuel for lithium and it created big explosions, you can even test this yourself with opening small lithium batteries and putting them in water inside.
Now you can only imagine what would happen if water from this fake Tesla truck-boat-submarine gets inside this huge battery packs.
Things things are hazard and dangerous for everyone who drives in them, they should not allow kids to be inside.

Tesla Car Fire Compilation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRFcJx7dN_I

This one was burning for days, they spent 1500 gallons of water and it was still burning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEwD29RoDy0

It's even worse with salt water... Exploding electric cars after hurricane!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scc9LFZOFYA

Someone has to tell Elon Musk to test drive his new truck in sea water  :D

Elon Musk had a little something to say about the Cybertruck today. He said the Cybertruck is something special that comes along once in a long while. I still say people aren’t familiar enough with the advancements in this vehicle that sets it apart. I think when these start hitting the road people are going to freak out. There just isn’t enough education on why it is shaped like it is. Too many people don’t get it yet.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1593340416077615105

The only thing with the design of it, it's quite possible that it doesn't pass safety regulations in many of the countries. Seems like the US will be fine, but it was pulled from the UK for a reason, and I imagine it's to do with the design of it. Protection is all well, and good for the driver/passengers, but colliding with one of these is going to devastate any other car.

So, unless they come up with another version for the EU to pass safety regulations, I doubt this is going to be a reality in the UK. 

Sounds like another excuse for a delay. Funny how a simple tweet like that triggers cult-like adulation of a non-existent inanimate object.

Than how are all the trucks getting passed safety regulations?
I am not proposing anyone should buy any Tesla vehicles that are basically self-destructive time bombs on wheels.
This is what recently happened with ''safu'' shaped Tesla vehicle in China that resulted in killing of two people after driver lost control with auto-pilot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBWkNVoqoCs

I don't think it was ever confirmed why the pre-order was pulled from the UK but the reasons why was always just internet chatter and rumour. At the current state it probably shouldn't be up for any pre-order given that there's no set in stone production date and it could and likely will be vastly different from the prototypes. I think the pre-order thing was more of a publicity stunt and to garner hype rather than a genuine pre-order anyway. I'd bet half of the people who actually put the $100 down probably wouldn't have gone through with the actual purchase given the deposit was refundable as well.


Trucks are allowed there's just more stringent safety standards over here. I think it's more to do with things like crumple zones etc and given the car is still essentially a prototype I'm not sure how people know how safe or what standards it will or wont pass etc so it was all just chatter. I thought I read somewhere that bullbars were banned in the UK but after a quick search it seems that's in fact not true, so if they're allowed along with other trucks there are surely some ways to make it work. It still might be ok anyway. Either way I'm sure Elon could come up with a way to make an EU compliant one. He's said the truck will be smaller than the original designs and that was probably one of the biggest issues for Europe as the roads are just too small over here.

There are some unsubstantiated claims going around on Twitter that Tesla will be handmaking and delivering 30 trucks next month. No idea if this is true or not but I’d believe it just so Elon could say he was right when he said end of this year they’d start delivering. Most analysts are thinking it will be summer before any meaningful number of trucks are being produced. I still think it will likely be the second half of 2024 before I get my hands on one.

I must say that you are one hell of a patient being, paying for a thing worth thousands of dollars and not having it for 2 years will be frustrating if I was me, I might even not do it at all 😂, that is, I would prefer to buy and drive it home immediately, but I guess this is why we are all different in our different ways.

Though from all I've heard and read about the tesla cyber truck, it is easy to predict that the wait will be sure worth it, and if I had the money, I would have love to place an order too so we wait together..

But anyways, I wish you good luck and I will be following and waiting for your review of the truck when you finally get it - congratulations in advance mate.

this is awesome lol, can't wait to see it! congrats! 8)

Thanks guys.  As this thread continues to age I can't escape the reality that time stops for no man and just hope that with all the calamity in the world I can live long enough to own one of these bad boys.  :)

Today did bring a cool new Cybertruck rumor.  There are people noticing a drawing of a 2-door Cybertruck at Tesla's museum exhibit and putting that together with comments from Elon about a smaller Cybertruck making sense in the future are now sure that a 2-door Cybertruck is in the works.  You can read the comments and see pictures of the 2-door Cybertruck drawing using the below link.  :)

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-two-door-cybertruck-design-photo/

The Tesla Cybertruck aesthetic is definitely not one-size fits all. It's a unique and eye-catching, but personally I only admire them if someone else is driving it. Its way out there--like driving around your personality.

I am starting to see a trend after this Musk acquiring Twitter situation where people are likening driving a Tesla to wearing a Make America Great Again hat. While I think that might be a little far fetched, I would agree that it takes a certain kind of person to think driving a “tank from the future” is cool and something they need to be doing. I personally really like the “Starship” project and think it’s awesome the Cybertruck will be using the same steel in it’s body.

Big news of the day for the Cybertruck… It’s being reported that there are no plans to equip the Cybertruck with airbags for passenger safety. Apparently as it stands, passengers are supposed to be protected by the unique design and materials used in the Cybertruck along with seatbelts. I’m sure they’ve done the testing to ensure it’s safe and will pass regulations, but this is something for potential owners to consider who may be accustomed to airbags.

:P ::)
Are you kidding me?!
You actually think it's ok to trust Elon Musk words about safety instead of common sense?
He is obviously cutting corners with no-airbags and doing this to reduce production cost for their new junktruck.

Let's see one short video how Tesla is ''safu'' for the people, while TSL stock keeps going down:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuTaZ5QKd8Y

Tesla is consistently the highest rated vehicles for safety. Just this week a family of four survived a several hundred foot drop off the side of a cliff in one… I cannot express how much more I trust Elon Musk than opinionated members of an Internet forum when it comes to car safety. I do find it fascinating that I can tell you who you vote for based on your feelings about a car. LOL. So emotional. Tanks don’t come with airbags though. I’m not concerned.

I just like it because it's unique and forward thinking. I don't like any of the other Tesla's as they're pretty bland and basic but this is something else entirely. I'll be pretty impressed if Elon actually get this thing into mass production without it costing nearly 100k.


I thought that would be well an truly the nail in the coffin for a UK release as I thought it was a legal requirement for cars in the UK to have airbags but I just checked and it turns out it actually isn't. I'm still not sure the build will pass UK regulations either and I'm still hoping it will be small enough to comfortably drive on UK roads.


I saw that the other day and thought it was a pretty good advertisement for Tesla. I don't know whether it was just sheer luck that nobody died or Tesla are stronger than others cars.

More Cybertruck progress in Texas.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-casting-molds-giga-texas-delivery/

With the molds now being delivered, I expect that production will begin soon on the underbody pieces for the Cybertruck to start amassing the needed parts for mass production.  This was really the biggest piece of the Cybertruck's production.  Now that the machines are ready to start producing the most innovative parts of the truck, I suspect we'll start seeing some production timelines in the near future.  Personally, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a Summer of 2024 delivery of my Cybertruck, but you never know what could happen this year, especially with everyone screaming that a recession is imminent.

"January 20th, 2020 - I placed my preorder for the Tesla Cybertruck at https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck.  It required a $100 refundable deposit that was made using USD via a debit card.  The Cybertruck that was ordered is the DUAL MOTOR AWD model (more info on the Cybertruck here).  The price was $49,900 and I opted for the FULL SELF DRIVING PACKAGE which added another $7,000 to the price of the Tesla."


I know a tree shake when I see one.
hang onto that $100 preorder!

This way you will get it pre inflation price if you don't cancel,
(its really easy to say its still 49,999 when there isn't any to sell)
I'm pretty sure when production begins the price will rise.
(they didn't adjust it during this recent inflation)
Cancelling would lose things they later decided to turn into SaaS models such as full self-driving.
hodl that shit and if you decide to pick it up in Austin swing by Waco and lemme check it out ;D
Pictures here will suffice too!

LOL... no.

Model 3 reservation holders got thoroughly fucked on their $35k price. The reservation was $1000 and it didn't matter anyway. Tesla was horribly late, then started selling fully loaded trims first. By the time they got to sell their cheapest trim (which was still more than $35k), their vehicles were no longer eligible for the federal tax credit that was a big part of their sales pitch at the time of reservation.

CT buyers will be fucked much worse. Although they might enjoy it.

That sounds slimy, it's not surprising though.
It's the whole no PR department thing for me.
My immediate thoughts are they don't care about customer's, or complaint's.
It looks like his free enterprise ecosphere is tying together.

I don’t think that a pre-Biden inflation wave price is a realistic expectation. Biden’s policies have led to the highest levels of inflation in generations. Tesla won’t be able to produce the Cybertruck for anywhere near what they hoped to sell them for at this point. You can’t blame Tesla for that though. You have to blame the people who thought we could defeat the flu if we printed enough money. I’m just hoping I can get mine for under $90K at this point if we’re being honest.

A new video going around on twitter shows the beta production model of the cybertruck turning using its 4-wheel steering capabilities. Pretty cool. Elon even responded to the video that the Cybertruck is a difficult truck to build, but that production will in fact start this year. Very cool to think about. While I still don’t believe I’ll own one this year, I do have some hope for the summer of 2024, maybe more likely Christmas of 2024.

I have one "big" problem with the TESLA cybertruck, its only reminds me a lot to the Simpsons when Homer knows his brother and he desing one car for the company he own, and it was a complete failure.  :D

Lets see how this ended and how good or bad its in the streets.

But the price.... man its really expensive.
I dont give a shit about this new electro cars only for rich people, they come with the spell of save the world of the evil old cars, but the news are nobody can afford one...

As a longtime fan of The Simpsons (before they got woke) I’m familiar with that episode and think there’s a massive fundamental difference between Homer’s monstrosity and the Cybertruck. Homer’s car had tons of stuff added on and was extremely complicated. The Cybertruck has removed so many parts and doesn’t even have a traditional frame. It’s built “like hot wheels cars” and is more simplified than other vehicles. So it’s like the opposite of your example. :)

Looks like the design of the wing-mirrors has changed to much smaller triangular ones:


https://static.techgoing.com/2023/02/Tesla-Cybertruck-2.png
https://static.techgoing.com/2023/02/Tesla-Cybertruck-1.png

https://www.thestreet.com/electric-vehicles/elon-musk-touts-tesla-cybertruck-technology

I kinda liked the bulky ones on the earlier prototypes, though I think it looks the best without them as was on the original design but they probably can't get away without them for release.


How do you know it's expensive? Has an updated price been given? It was surprisingly cheap at pre-order but I'd be shocked if they get it any wear near that for release. I think it's going to have to be in the same price range as the other Teslas or e-trucks by other manufacturers for it to be a success. If it's a ludicrous price it'll just be a niche item for the rich and famous to make a statement in. Expect it to be eye-candy in every rapper's video much like Lambos have become.

People are wildly speculating over an Elon Musk tweet showing a vague video of a Cybertruck on Twitter and saying that it might be a sign the Cybertruck design is finalized. Not sure if I’m willing to go that far but it does seem as thought production is inevitable at this point. It will either revolutionize the consumer vehicle industry or be a spectacular failure.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1628661468383285250

I think its not to far from that, if i dont see bad this seems like a street, so they are testing surely outside the plant.

Some new details about the Cybertruck have emerged.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-details-leaked-dimensions-accessories-features-video/

The most interesting claims in my opinion are that all models will come with rear wheel steering (makes sense for simplfying production) and that there will only be two models developed. A 2-motor version and a performance 3-motor version.  This is the first I've heard of Elon cancelling the single motor variant and it also indicates he is no longer planning a 4-motor variant.  Still exciting hearing more details as we inch closer to production of this monster machine from the future.

New article with details out of China about "sail" storage on the Cybertruck. I hadn't seen anything like this before about the Cybertruck so it's a bit of a surprise.  A welcome one though and pretty cool.  Likely even necessary after the Rivian truck's display of unique storage spaces.  Always cool to see more leaks about what's going to be included on this Cybertruck monster when it's released.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-production-will-retain-sail-storage/

Good to see you keep updating the thread, im waiting to see a picture of you in taht Tesla Cybertruck when the times comes.

Some pictures have been released of the Cybertruck pilot production line. I’ve also seen them doing hiring for a variety of manufacturing positions related to the Cybertruck. It does appear that we are now just a matter of months away from seeing these beasts begin rolling off the assembly line. Still no word on final pricing or feature options.

Tweet with pics:
https://twitter.com/sawyermerritt/status/1648784374538686465

You can once again place preorders for the Cybertruck on Tesla’s website.

https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck

It's interesting, I don't see where you can select the option of what type you want, perhaps that is after you pay the $100?

I was lucky enough to lock in self driving, which I wonder what that costs now. :)

I don’t think you get to choose the model you want anymore. Rumors are that they discontinued the 1-motor option and 4-motor option, so a lot of people that preordered thinking they were getting a $40K Cybertruck will have to be given the option to choose something else. They also haven’t given any available options for the Cybertruck, so clearly in the next couple months there will be a lot of things happening to shed light on the situation.

Looks like the Cybertruck production is no imminent.  Fans of Tesla have spotted the front castings for the Cybertruck as full scale manufacturing seems to be just around the corner.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-front-castings-spotted/

In the article they talk a little bit about how they know what these parts are and also link to a tweet from the person who made the initial discovery.  More pictures posted yesterday also show the assembly line and workers doing pilot production as they document processes and get ready to start training workers.  It's looking very promising that the Cybertruck will start being delivered to customers this year!

The latest video release of Tesla’s robot progress showed some scary footage of their robots flanked by a few Cybertrucks. It looks like something out of that Will Smith robot movie. Image posted below.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/17/IMG_2277a0e353dc48fffd42.jpeg

I will admit it’s great to see more evidence of Cybertruck production being done.

Ey nice update.

One thing i noted in this alst photo was the tone in the cybertrucks, in the central one its opaque and in the two behind its more shiny. I like more the shiny one. You can choose between this two or its only one option?.

With a suspected 4 months until a Tesla Cybertruck delivery event, more and more news keeps making its way to the public. A recent twitter post shows that the Cybertruck will be the first Tesla vehicle to come with dual 8” subwoofers. This will make it quite a beast of an entertainment center for watching movies and listening to music.

https://twitter.com/matthewdr/status/1663985770020093953

A wrapped Cybertruck was spotted yesterday at their testing plant. This is the first time I’ve seen one with a wrap job. It looks pretty cool. Not the style I would go for but it’s nice to see that these trucks will easily be able to be wrapped in whatever color or design you want. Take a look for yourself using the below link.

https://twitter.com/sawyermerritt/status/1668798166139895808

Ognasty i have one question for you, now i was thinking the CYBERTRUCK being a TRUCK implies you are gonna pull weights (theorically), so being electric means you are gonna have  much more engine torque than a oil engine one.

How much its the engine torque?.

I don’t know how much reliable information is out there but here’s what was published by Tesla. Cybertruck can tow up to 14,000 pounds and has an estimated driving range of 500-plus miles.

A quick Google search landed me with this answer: The estimated maximum power of the Tesla Cybertruck Tri Motor is 600 kW (805 hp). The estimated maximum torque is 1033 lb-ft.

I don’t intend to tow much. If I do take a cross country trip or something I think I could handle sleeping in the bed area and I’m not a boat towing guy.

Thanks for the answer, i totally miss the thread, so im reading this now.

Yes i want to see this Tesla making hard work on the agricultural side, to see how it work. I know and more in the deep USA its gonna be hard to make farm owners to use this vehicle instead of the normal pick up.

It would appear that pre-production of the Cybertruck has begun.  I wonder what the vaporware crowd has to say now?  Still think these will never be produced?  The pre-production stage is usually where they clean up their processes and get models to reviewers and testers as they plot out ramping up to full scale production.  I think there's still probably another month or two before that happens, but it indeed appears that the Cybertruck in on pace to make a Q3 2023 debut.  Sure, it could slip into the end of the year and it will likely be another year before I can get my hands on one, but they're coming and it appears nothing will stop that now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/is-the-tesla-cybertruck-finally-in-production/ar-AA1cX8y5

In addition to the camouflage cybertruck we’ve seen driving around TeslaCarsOnly posted this image of a wrapped cybertruck in red and black. It’s nice to see an example of some unique wraps that these trucks will be sporting. It’s been called the easiest automobile to wrap ever made so I think there are going to be an endless number of unique trucks on the road.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/28/S1c5N.jpeg

It's photoshop and a really ugly lazy one too.

I know you're desperate to shill it any way you can but come on. Find something positive and stop making cybertruckers look even dumber than they are.

Feel free to post your own examples. I really like the camo one that’s going around but no doubt there will some great ones. I like the rusted looking ones I’ve seen that give this tank the apocalyptic feel it deserves. I can’t believe there are people who thought Tesla was going to make a vaporware product. LOL. Won’t be much longer now!  ;D

Here’s another. I love how angry these pictures make stupid people so I can’t resist bringing a smile to myself so easily.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/29/ShfWg.jpeg

Yeah a very bad one, when i see the picture, i start to think this cant be true, its clearly photoshop and the pixels are visible.

About painting, wrapping etc, i think, if the Tesla was pure metal how they are gonna battle the sun making the truck a oven?, i think some good anti sun paint can be helpfull.

Sending my CV to Tesla  ::)

So many awesome videos coming out showing this vehicle now that it’s being produced by the factory. Here’s a clip showing the inside of the vehicle. It’s probably the best one yet that I’ve seen showing the transparent roof. Reminds me of the vehicles they used in Jurassic Park. No T-Rex is gonna catch this beast though.

https://twitter.com/teslacarsonly/status/1673767900845580288

Edit: There’s now a configurator so you can see lots of different colors!!

https://t.co/sPaOp0oN7A

Yes...more news keeps making it's way to the public...

A Leaked Tesla Report Shows the Cybertruck Had Basic Design Flaws
 (https://www.wired.com/story/a-leaked-tesla-report-shows-the-cybertruck-had-basic-design-flaws/)


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Elon Musk tweeted today (yesterday) that he had been driving the Cybertruck. Him calling it the Cybertruck instead of a pre-production model is leading to speculation that the Cybertruck has been finalized and is being actively produced. Tesla’s estimates are still that they will shop the first unit in less than 3 months. We’ll see…

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/15/Z1hhv.jpeg

It looks like a few minutes ago the first Cybertruck was produced at the new Giga Texas plant. This is quite a milestone. Many people on this very thread said that this day would never come. This is a reason to celebrate as I’m sure all those in the picture are doing right now. I can’t wait to drive the best civilian vehicle ever made.

Source: https://twitter.com/tesla/status/1680121747910148099

If you’ve been anywhere near social media this week you’ve no doubt seen plenty of images of Cybertrucks being shipped around the country. It looks like crash testing and review models going to as well as some being produced for employees. The retail customer isn’t far off. It seems like nothing will stop this beast from hitting customers this year.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/17/MSkWl.jpeg

Thanks for the update!.I dont know nothing abuot it.

One thing i noticed seeing your  pic its, the tyre its not so thick, seems more like a regular one with more rubber.

When its gonna be your Tesla droped? or you dont have a date to receive the car/truck?

I haven’t received any news whatsoever about my order. I occasionally check to make sure my preorder is still there. I’m not expecting it anytime soon though. Last I checked I was like preorder #400,000 and I think they’re making about 10 per day right now, so it’ll be a while. Best case scenario in my opinion would be next summer and a more realistic guess would be next Christmas. I’m counting on having it by midway through 2025.

Tesla’s site now lists the option to redeem tickets for the Cybertruck delivery event in Austin, Texas. In order to qualify you must have 30,000 credits, which is equal to three Tesla referrals. Unfortunately, I haven’t referred 3 people to buy Teslas so I won’t be able to attend. A shame as I would have loved to been there. Anybody want to buy 3 Teslas?

I can't believe that such a friendly charismatic rich person as yourself would not have at least 3 friends IRL to rope into this laughable MLM scheme refer to buy such a fantastic flawless ahead-of-its-time vehicle.

Just take a look at Elon sitting in the production model of the Cybertruck.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/24/MJH6a.jpeg

It’s pretty cool to think this will be his daily driver vehicle. The richest man in the world driving the same vehicle as us mere mortals. I wonder how much longer it will be before we can select options and all that. I’m curious if solar panels will be offered or how much the CyberQuad will cost.

It is suspected that the Cybertruck Release Candidate is out on the streets! This is pretty big news. It means they have finalized a model and are ready to send it to mass production! It won’t be long now. You can see pictures of the release candidate that were posted on Twitter (x) a couple hours ago in the below link.

https://x.com/showgren/status/1697091970626445409

Glorious leader not happy with build quality... who could have thought that having all those straight edges would make amplify Tesla's panel gap issue. Well, any half-decent auto designed would have, but no worries, the boss will send a mean e-mail and physics will bend to his will.


Time to redesign it and make it out of molded plastic because LEGO.

First video I’ve seen of the Cybertruck hailing a trailer. Check it out on X (twitter):
https://x.com/omg_tesla/status/1697778917573275898

You can really judge too much from a video of a Cybertruck flying by hauling a trailer, but it does appear to be casually pulling the trailer, likely for some sort of range test while pulling a load.

Would like to see the offset front crash tests on one of these.

https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/09/F49vcZCWIAAut1p.jpeg?w=1500&quality=82&strip=all&ssl=1

With that much of the front end on moving hinges it's going to crumple in an interesting way.
Just more of an engineering thing then anything else.

Since as of now it's not going to be able to be sold in the EU / other parts of the world there are a lot of safety things it will be exempt from, so we might not see a lot of the more unique testing.

Would like every car to go though the Volvo tests. Less about safety, mostly because they are cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3Agd_YGDu0

I'm 90% certain that some of those tests were invented by engineers as drunk bar bets about what they could get management to pay for in terms of testing.
"Lets drop cars from 100' up from, we will tell them it's for rescue crews to figure out how to deal with getting people out of bad accidents, and it's cooler then smashing them into walls at high speed"

Back to this.

With still no price and full specs the wait list may drop off a lot once they really start selling. There is also the issue of time, how many people will they loose because for whatever reason they just can't wait any longer. That has become a large issue over the last few years with 'wait listed cars' I wound up getting my deposit back on a couple of car reservations because it got to the point although I did not need a car NOW my warranty was expiring and I did not want to risk driving something (even something as reliable as a Honda) without one.

On today's vehicles, which are for the most part computers with wheels, even minor things can cost a fortune to fix. At times it's not even the parts but just a labor to get to the parts.

One of our customers has or had, a reservation for the CT, but he needed / wanted a new pickup now, might have been able to stretch it till the end of the year or early next year but not past that. So he bought a F150. Until it dies or goes out of warranty he is not getting the Tesla. Nothing good or bad, just the way it is.

-Dave

I’ve been seeing tweets showing the Cybertruck driving around with its suspension fully raised. Looks like a monster truck. I wonder if I’ll be able to set it to raise fully when driving and then each time it turns off somewhere it fully lowers. That would be cool… I’ll post some links below so you can see for yourself.

https://x.com/adanguajardo/status/1698509119747928478

https://x.com/corbinwilliams/status/1699173133079793938

I went the other way, instead of getting a new tablet on wheels every 3 years I figured that an older used car with no turbo, no ADAS, port injection, stick shift, is about as good as it will ever get in automotive technology. The only modern amenity I like is Android thingamabob with maps and Spotify, and that's like a $500 retrofit, people pay more than that MONTHLY for their cars.

Anyway, speaking of Tesla, I did have a reservation on Model 3 back when they promised to deliver it for $35k in 2016 I think it was, the date came and went, I think they were 2 or 3 years late, by that time I obviously had purchased another vehicle and got my deposit back. You gotta be a hardcore fanboy to put up with that and CT is surely testing the strength of Elon's reality distortion field much more than any of their previous models.

My car that I’ve been driving for more than a decade had its check engine light come on today. I sure hope Elon is able to get the Cybertruck deliveries rolling soon. Not sure how much longer my whip will be running. With all the price reductions on the rest of Tesla’s fleet and the tax rebates, it’s hard not to pull the trigger on a model 3 right now. Gotta keep my eyes on the prize though.

A lot of images floating around and people making jokes about the Cybertruck’s crashing testing that was seemingly performed yesterday. I posted a link below to a video where you can see the end result of this testing. It looks like the Cybertruck held up just fine and perhaps they will just crash other cars into the Cybertruck as testing in the future instead of cement walls.

https://x.com/wholemarsblog/status/1699936853263270152

Deliveries have started…

https://x.com/serobinsonjr/status/1700761338295795852

Except... not:

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1700769440307044661

https://meem.link/i/4yjpc35w.png

Drifting from the topic here a bit but:

I know I have posted about it before but I spend WAYYYY to much time in my car not to have all the creature comforts and features.
If I needed it to go from A to B I probably would not care.

But I need it to go from A to B to C to D to E to F .... to X to Y to Z to AA....

I picked up my new car July 24th after work. Today makes it 7 weeks old. According to the app I have over 200 power on hours. So 7 weeks x 7 days = 49 days. 200 hours / 49 days = 4+ hours a day I am in that seat (on average obviously). So yes I want my ventilated seats. I want my heads up display. I want my adaptive cruise control. I really wish I could get away with not having them, but I do field repair work.



---engaging dad mode---
You really should have that checked ASAP, ignoring a minor inexpensive issue now can cost you more later. Any one of dozens of sensors can go bad and pop the CEL on. That could cause the computer to do some stupid things that cause other issues.
---ending dad mode---

Watch what some computers do when you have some emissions issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm-E0_RKC1s


-Dave

According to users on X (twitter for those outside the know) if you place a call to Tesla to try and purchase a vehicle they will tell you that the Cybertruck deliveries to customers will start in a matter of days. That’s pretty huge news. It certainly seems like they’re happy with the production model they have and are ready to start selling these to consumers!

Elon today tweeted that he has driven the “performance” model of the Cybertruck. I’m not sure exactly what that means but Elon described it as “kicks ass next-level” which I think is a good sign. I’m still anxiously awaiting any information about options or communication on how the purchasing process will go, but hopefully that information is revealed in the coming weeks.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1705363066542493951

My order is not configurable yet, but apparently some are already getting their orders to the next step. More info here: https://x.com/cybrtrkguy/status/1706115481118134657

Another sign of the inevitable… This has been leaked to social media as the world is anxiously awaiting any further news about Tesla’s greatest product ever.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/28/PEVK8.jpeg

It’s looking a lot like the event could happen as early as next month, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were in November either. One thing is for sure though, it is happening and it is happening soon.

Cybertruck crash test photos are in…

https://x.com/joetegtmeyer/status/1708861072352883117

Someone posted this picture online showing a Cybertruck Release Candidate with a built in Starlink antenna. No idea of this will be an accessory that you can choose or not, but it’s pretty cool to think that you can get satellite internet on these bad boys. Hopefully we’ll get a look at what options are available before the end of the year.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/04/Pihd3.jpeg

Early reports are that the first Cybertruck has officially been sold at auction for $400,000. The Cybertruck was being auctioned off by the Petersen Museum. You can see some footage of the auction that has been posted on X by user @greggertruck by following the link I’ve posted below:

https://x.com/greggertruck/status/1710877291201610199

Elon Musk decided it would be a good idea to do a live fire test on the Cybertruck, so he emptied a drum from a Tommy gun into the side of it as a test supposedly if tweets are to be believed. He also confirmed that not a single bullet made it into the cabin. Then what did they do? They drove the Cybertruck around town to show it off.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/21/TAn4J.jpeg

Apart from the fact that it's bullet proof, I saw one Tesla drive paste me last night, I looked through the window and it's sophisticated interior technology blew me off.

And then security is guaranteed when you're in a cyber truck, incase you have attackers with assault riffles, I don't know if snipers will make it through but from the tweets, it seems safe enough from raffles.

My band just rehearsed my new new song "Full Musk"... Its sounding good... not sure about the Cybertruck  (https://youtu.be/4QBt19hZyYI?t=891) though, LOL


https://youtu.be/4QBt19hZyYI?t=891

Yeah, I used to be a huge Musk fanboy back in the day. Almost pulled the trigger on a Model 3.
So glad I came to my senses.

So you are gonna be driving this weird looking thing around, daring folks to take a tommy gun to it? Hey, whatever floats your boat man....

lmao... dude, open your eyes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-pMwOajxb4&t=338s

I guess it’s in my personality. If you’re familiar with my posts here you’re likely aware that I am not one to play it safe or hide. If someone shoots a gun at me while I’m driving this thing, they’d better hope they can accelerate faster than 0-60 in 2.9 seconds or they will become a hood ornament and I’ll get to be on the news.

Cybertruck production has officially started today. The first set of configuration invites just went out a few minutes ago. Huge news. The greatest civilian vehicle ever created is real and it’s on the way to customers.

Looks like Tesla is taking steps to stop price gouging by resellers. I love to see it. Hopefully this cuts down on preorders from people who just wanted to make a quick buck. The link is below to read the full agreement but the summary is that you cannot resell your Cybertruck within the first year of owning it and if you do you may be charged a $50,000 fine and never get to buy another Tesla product.

https://x.com/niccruzpatane/status/1723485651280986572

Oh no! Tesla appears to have removed all language in the agreement saying that you can’t resell your Cybertruck within a year or face a $50,000 fine. Thats sort of a bummer to me. I was really hoping this would cause some cancellations of preorders ahead of me in line. Link to the new full agreement below.

https://www.tesla.com/configurator/api/v3/terms?locale=en_US&model=m3&saleType=Sale

On a limited production thing like the Ford GT you could get away with something like that. With a 'mass production' vehicle it's more difficult. Tesla had the 'get out of it' clause in the original contract that if you could show reason why you should be able to sell then they would let you after certain conditions were met.

But if other things happened. i.e. you loose your job and can't pay the loan and they don't let you get rid of it. Then you just keep driving it and not paying for it until they can repo it. Which can take a very long time and you were abusing the shit out of it the entire time. So they now have a car that has had been abused that they have to sell again.

Not to mention, in some states it's flat out not permitted to block the resale of motor vehicles to others. I know Nevada and New Jersey both *had* laws like that on the books, no idea if they still exist.
Short Version: Casinos were running car promos back then and if you didn't want the car, casinos were only offering about 65% OR LESS of the value of the car in cash. So people took the car and flipped it. Some casinos didn't like that so they put in wording to not allow the transfer for a certain amount of time. And then the lawyers came, then the states just put it in the FU they can sell it law because the better casinos were giving close the ACV of the car and were complaining that the ones being scummy about that were making all casinos look bad.

This goes back to the 80s. Was a big stink about it back then when the Corvette C4 came out and had a MSRP in the mid $20k range. There were a lot of casino promos with them and some casinos were giving something like $15000 in cash if you didn't take the car. Since you could take it and sell it for more then MSRP not allowing sales for a certain period of time was just bad optics. Not to mention the flip side, of you do owe taxes on the full MSRP next tax day, so you could take the car, drive it for a while and then sell it comes April 15th. But, that didn't work if you could not sell the car. It was just a mess all around.

I was in high school back then and a major gear-head, it was a big thing for a while if you were paying attention. If you didn't gamble or like cars you probably never heard about it. But, I can see the laws or variations of them still sitting there. If they can be enforced with a purchase instead of a giveaway or as a contract between the manufacturer and someone instead of a 3rd party who knows. I can see a bunch of lawyers just pointed out that it's just not worth dealing with it.

-Dave

^ I’m sure the bad press and instant reaction from people was enough for Tesla to change their tune in order to avoid damaging their brand. I’ve heard that other carmakers like Rivian have done the same thing in the past though. Admittedly, I’m only caring about myself when I have my opinion on the matter. Whatever Elon or Tesla does to scare away preorders ahead of me in line, I’m all for it. I hope reports come out saying the Cybertruck explodes when you unlock the door.

LOL there are no "preorders", the $100 deposit means jack shit, especially since most of those "buyers" likely put it down on a $40k truck, which will never happen. Tesla will make top trim Lambo-priced version first and will try to push it to everyone regardless of their position in the queue or even without a deposit. The $50k penalty nonsense is just a clunky PR play trying to make it look like there is going to be a reseller stampede, and to get some more free publicity.

Some cool photos of the Cybertruck being submerged in water for leak testing. Imagine any other car company doing this with one of their vehicles…

https://x.com/peterdog15/status/1725625406491889974

Well, i dont really like the design and other things about this cybertruck, but yes in fact this is a very cool and useful feature.

I want to see the real comments made by the owners after sometime with this trucks, and how they aging.

Somebody decided to take their Cybertruck for a swim on the beach.

https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1726725983833653529

As we get closer to the Cybertruck delivery event this week, there’s been video released this week showing a feature I was hoping the Cybertruck would have. “Raise to start” lets you lower your Cybertruck when you turn it off and then it lifts up the suspension when you start it. Sort of like an old low rider. Only a couple more days until we get the full unveil.

https://x.com/omg_tesla/status/1728977383527682203?

Is there any word if Tesla will accept Bitcoin payments for vehicles again? 

I haven’t heard anything to suggest that will be happening but there’s always hope. If there was going to be news on this front I imagine we’d hear about it on Thursday.

There have been some interesting leaks though. Including this one about a solar cover. I wonder if it’ll just be a car cover with solar panels or if it will be something build into the truck. More news soon…

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/11/29/NmFTj.jpeg

It will be interesting to see what is announced tomorrow. I have a very early reservation number, within the first few minutes. I can be priced out though, if the price is more than $20,000 over the original pricing I will not get one. 

Solar in the bed would be interesting. With today’s portable battery packs and solar panel generators, you could build a 800 W charging set up for under $2000 but it would be in the style of the Martian where he had to pull the equipment out and set it up on the side.

The launch event will be streamed on Twitter later (sorry, not calling it X  ;D) https://twitter.com/Tesla/status/1729954264540156295

Looks to start at 8pm GMT time.



No, but a while back Elon said he would "consider" it. Bit of a lame move him caving into pressure to stop accepting it. I'd love to buy a Cybertruck in BTC, but I still think it will be a miracle if this makes it into full production at an affordable price along with being fully road legal here in the UK.


I'm really wondering what the price is actually going to be. If it's under $100k I'll be surprised. The 40k price tag never really made sense.


Inflation alone looks to have pushed up the price by 28%:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-20/how-tesla-s-cybertruck-price-and-range-determine-its-fate



https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/11/30/NFCdm.png

Even 60k would still be optimistic. If some select people are taking home their trucks today surely they've already paid for them unless this is just a PR sham and they're giving them to some celebs or people associated with Tesla.

Well if it's going to be that expensive then they better have bullet-resistant glass on the windows this time, if not bullet-proof :)

Of course I know this is not the case for almost all of the consumer pickup truck types at this price, but I mean come on. Elon can send rockets to space and back, so he should be able to add some tempered glass to his cars.

Elon explained on his latest Joe Rogan podcast appearance that Bullet-proof glass needs to be incredibly thick so wouldn't be feasible on a standard model as the windows need to be fixed/immovable. Maybe they could do a special bullet proof edition later, but I'm not sure who the market would be for other than maybe government officials and some super-celebs.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-beast-mode-tesla-cybertruck-bulletproof-windows-option-2023-10?r=US&IR=T

The excitement is building.  You can feel it even on this thread. We’re just a few hours away from getting all sorts of new information about the Cybertruck. If I were to guess, I would say people will probably complain about the range and pricing while Elon will most likely roll out the Cyberquad as a surprise. Maybe some cool features like the solar panel option will also be unveiled. 

Unfortunately one of the features that is making the cybertruck more expensive is four wheel steering.  Honestly as a truck owner THE FEATURE SUCKS.  Why would such an innovative feature suck?  First, it increases cost.  I personally estimate about $3000.  Second, and key here for me, it makes the bed smaller.  The cybertruck bed has sloped walls to accommodate the additional running gear of the four wheel steering.  Finally, it will make the truck less reliable.  It is more hardware to break, it almost certainly makes the truck heavier and it may have reduced the payload capability.  None of those things alone are worth the decreased turning radius for me, let alone all of them. 

Even if they offer a feature delete later, the way Tesla works it will not increase the bed size as that would be a new casting.  To add insult to injury, this feature was not even discussed during the launch.  I would far more want the built in ramps for example that now seem to be deleted.

The Cybertruck towing a Porsche 911 faster than the Porsche can do a quarter mile was a pretty amazing clip.

Here’s the information everyone has been waiting on… With range being my key concern, I think the All Wheel Drive model is the way to go.

CyberBeast:
$99,990
320mi range, 2.6s 0-60
2024 release

All-Wheel Drive:
$79,990
340mi range, 4.1s 0-60
2024 release

Rear-Wheel Drive
$60,990
250mi range, 6.5s 0-60
2025 release

Pretty disappointed at the $30,000 prince increase on the AWD.  I am priced out. May buy a model Y or a base Lightning.

I think a lot of people will be priced out. This definitely isn’t the $40K truck that was teased to get preorders. I think these prices will likely deter a lot of resellers too. I am glad to see an extended range option but if it takes up bed space that is probably not a realistic option. You can see a bunch of accessories that Tesla is offering using the below link.

https://shop.tesla.com/category/vehicle-accessories/cybertruck

At $65k for the AWD, $15k over original I would have made the stretch and bought it.  but I can get a lightning for $5k under MSRP so $48k... and then get the federal credit bringing it to $41k plus tax.  Or a Model Y for $44k and then the credit off of that.  Tesla is not dumb... they will probably sell all they can make for a while (a year) at those prices, then they may start to lower the price later.  Maybe in 2025 the AWD will be $69k - the federal credit making it affordable to a lot more people. 

I did finally receive communication from Tesla about my preorder. I guess this is how they’re trying to keep preorder holders who need a new car immediately happy. It read the following:

Cybertruck is Here
And your reservation is in the queue. While you await delivery of your Cybertruck, get $1,000 off the lease or purchase price of a new Tesla.* Place your new order by December 31, 2023, to qualify.

lol at this "broken window" decal..



https://shop.tesla.com/product/cybertruck-omfg_decal

I have not received that email.  I have a very early first day order.  I ordered during the event.  I would use that $1000 offer if it applied to inventory model Y, as there are already some at $3000 off. 

It looks like this is the range extender that takes the Cybertruck to 470+ miles of range on a charge. Leaks on the website also suggest it will have a $16,000 price tag. I’m not sure if it would be worth it, but I’m sure in certain situations it would be nice to have. I think it would have been cooler in the bed storage space, but maybe there will be aftermarket options.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/01/NYGMz.jpeg

The cybertruck is built with the 4680 cybercell. Right now it is actually inferior to the older Panasonic cells from Nevada except possibly on cost. It has 5% less power per weight and size. They should actually be able to get minimum 10% better. That would apply both to the truck and the range extender.  I expect at least 5% improvements in the next 18 months.  That would bring it up to the 500 miles people seem to want.

Yesterday i see this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6WDq0V5oBg&ab_channel=Hagerty) which i found very interesting about Cybertruck, i have to say it look a little bit better than before for me, i dont know if its only my mind getting used to or because this polish feels better.

Anyways good review.

The launch event was hit and miss for me. The price rise is understandable due to inflation and I think most expected they wouldn't be so cheap but $61k is still a good deal in my opinion. Are the trucks actually being slowly shipped out to people now or did they just give a handful of trucks out to a few select buyers (and no doubt they're Tesla affiliated somehow) and they won't start shipping out to plebs until next year or maybe even 2025? On the UK site you still can't put a deposit down just sign up for notifications.

As far as the design goes it still looks very exciting and there's not much I'd be disappointed by. I wish they would have kept the front middle seat though as three seats in the front would have been a big selling point. I'm sure Tesla could have figured a way to make it into a folding seat or something that can be put up or down as needed but maybe there's safety issues in that.


Unless you absolutely need the range I don't think this is worth the extra money and especially at the expense of sacrificing bed space.


I'm sure the truck will be improved and the price should fall with inflation and as production gets streamlined.

The front middle seat was dropped because there is a display there and they could not figure out airbags with the display for the center passenger.

I have owned a six seat full size truck for a decade. I have had five in it multiple times but never filled the sixth front center position. Maybe a young small person would not impinge too much on the driver but it’s just not a high priority.

I'd rather have the extra seat than a display. I'm sure they could have found a place to put it or a tablet or a smaller screen somewhere else - maybe even make it detachable so people can move it around or put it where they want. Maybe having one on the roof that can fold up/down when needed like a sun-visor. If nobody is in the back it's useless and is in a bit of an awkward position. Could have even just used an app on each persons phone as that's what most people are glued to anyway. For most 6 seats probably isn't needed but it's ideal for families with three kids and/or a pet etc. I have seen a couple of people complaining that they needed the extra seat so it will effect those people for sure. I think they should consider having a six seat option in the future.

I’d personally rather have the display. How else would I play video games while the car is driving me around? This is basically a giant steel sports car. Not a minivan.

So not one soul here got their hands on one?
What happened to this delivery event I thought I'd see em on the road this week so far nothing.

Why would you need one in the back when surely you'll be in the front? Like I said before, most people just use their phones or tablets to play games on the go but I think a movable screen would have been far more useful, especially having it dead in the centre isn't ideal unless you're sat right in front of it. Much better to have it moved to wherever people need it.


I think the delivery event was a bit of a misnomer and more like a publicity stunt than a general release. As far as I can tell they just gave out about a dozen or so to some select 'buyers' and even they were probably affiliated with Tesla or the media or something so I doubt you'll see them driving around unless you live in Texas and happen to have some luck. I haven't seen anything to confirm that they're actually been given to people on a wider release yet.

I am in Texas . Have never seen one.
You think a smart PR move would be to give them to people who would advertise for you?
Especially considering they don't market!
I feel like they cybertruck is holding some customers emotionally hostage ...this thing was supposed to be out already!

I think that's exactly what they did. I barely use youtube but my feed is full of cybertruck "reviews", not sure why, maybe I accidentally googled it from my throwaway android account. This "influencer" shit after the fake "delivery event" is probably their strategy in selling the truck that's 3 years late at twice the promised price.

I can't actually put my hand around it, OP was saying stuff about the detailed report on Cyber Truck and how he Pre-ordered it way  before it got to manufacturing point and at the end of it all he stated price of Bitcoin.

May I ask, is it ideal to state the price of the Bitcoin as a concern?

When it was ordered, the price of Bitcoin wasn't the same as it is now so its not a concern to me. For all we know, OP may have converted Fiat to Bitcoin few seconds before he ordered it.

I had to add the Bitcoin element for the thread to be relevant to this forum. The comparisons of BTC when ordered to now was the expectation that the price in BTC would go down over time, which it has. I haven’t converted anything in relation to this order yet. My expectation is to convert BTC to fiat when making payment if BTC is not being accepted.

I also need to update the OP with the new pricing…

eBay is getting flooded with so many cybertruck preorders that Tesla has started requiring a $1,000 deposit (non-refundable this time) to convert your preorder to an actual order in hopes it gets some people to cancel who aren’t intending to actually purchase for themselves. I hope they keep this up. Gotta weed out preorders from flippers.

they offered a 1000 dollar discount and six months of free charging . to reward me for my preorder.

the catch is thats for taking a model 3 by dec 31.

I will keep waiting for the truck. 🛻

based on that offer maybe june.

A lot of the delivery date will depend on how they expand deliveries. Right now they’re only shipping orders to California and Texas, which is a bit depressing for me. I’m crossing my fingers they expand to Arizona soon but we’ll have to wait and see. Hopefully they’re seeing a lot of preorder cancellations with the new $1000 deposit.

Good luck with that waste of money and supporting clown Elon :P
Before you spend any money on Tesla or on any other electric crap vehicles, please watch new movie Leave the World Behind... maybe something clicks in your head.
It's probably nothing.

There's seemingly been very few delivered outside of the release event so you're probably unlikely to spot one. Plenty of youtube reviewers seem to have had access to them but not sure even the big ones have their own. I just don't think the thing is fully ready yet or they certainly aren't producing them in any substantial volume.


Yeah, definitely probably more of an event to please shareholders and calm any worries people may have about the truck but I still think this is likely a long way away of being released properly to the masses. Even Tesla has put a date of 2025 for the entry level cybertruck.

Interestingly, I’m reading on Twitter that people who have multiple Cybertruck orders are getting phone calls from Tesla telling them that they have to give up one of their orders. Plenty of folks are starting to complain because they had planned to give one to their wife, etc. That might also help speed along the preorder queue.

Looks like there's been the first recorded incident involving a cybertruck https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/28/24018383/tesla-cybertruck-crash-corolla-palo-alto


It will be interesting to see how they fair in accidents given the safety of them is something that might prohibit them from European roads. Cybertruck looks undamaged compared to the Toyota.


I can't imagine there's that many people who pre-ordered two. Probably just trying to clamp down on re-sellers. Given it's having a very slow roll-out and could be a while before it goes into significant production I'm guessing they'll be reselling for significant amounts.

First of many to come  :P
Did you guys see the Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEfwoqKRU8) how China is making a bunch of electric cars and not using them at all, there are literally thousands of brand new cars rotting outside.
All that is done because of government paid for this to be made, and nobody cares if they are ''green'', or if they actually sold or not...
Now that can't possibly happen to tesla right? Right??  ::)

EVs = ponzi scam

Well that would be an issue with China's policies and their own Chinese-made cars so not applicable to Tesla, but that's also assuming the claims in that video are true, which according to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD8qqEx4G18

Most of the claims are untrue and the vehicles are from bankrupt rideshare companies. He does a walkaround and you can see a lot of the cars are actually used and many with road damage etc.

Sure, it's not exactly situation like in China, BUT my point was that all this EV crap vehicles that are allegedly good for environment are generously supported by governments.
Guy that made the video you posted (probably living in China) is specialized for cars from China-only with his 1 year old channel  Inside China Auto,
so I am sure he is (not) paid by their government/companies to tell the truth...

I guess bankruptcy never happened in US based car manufacturers, and it will ''never'' happen to tesla and clown Elon.  :D
Companies like tesla would NEVER work without government aka tax extortion money, they work with big losses all the time, but I guess we already know that.
I know how ponzi scams are working and I am telling you that tesla (and similar) are one big ponzi scams ready to explode, but they need more people paying ''deposits'', same like in China.

You sound pretty ignorant about Tesla to be completely honest. They are extremely profitable, their cash position is growing insanely fast, and they’ve reduced their debt to the point where it will likely be completely gone in the next couple years. Your Ponzi talk is clearly complete nonsense, as is the idea that Tesla needs customer deposits for financial reasons.

Guess who got a hands on with the Cybertruck today!

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/12/30/IKutG.jpeg

I can say that it does look even more awesome in person. The biggest shock for me was how big the wheels are. They are MASSIVE in person. I was also surprised that all the buttons are real buttons that click in. I thought the doors and frunk would be awkward to open but they weren’t at all. The owner said range is a bit lower than expected but visibility and comfortability is amazing. It was the 2 motor version but he said it’s still extremely quick. I learned a lot and there were so many smart things that aren’t advertised with this vehicle. I’m even more excited now.

With the latest Easter egg going around showing you can break the windows on the Cybertruck displayed on the touchscreen by repeatedly tapping it, I thought I’d show an Easter egg I saw when checking out the Cybertruck. I took this picture showing that when you open the door and roll down the window, it stops at a point where the remaining exposed window looks like a Cybertruck.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/04/sMMt9.jpeg

The women on the side seems also impresed.  ;D

Well congratulations for you man, you were one of the early defenders and owners of the Tesla Cybertruck you make all the way since the begining like with BTC.

EDIT: i read agian and it was not your Tesla Cybertruck.

Very nice eagster egg you found. One thing i want to see is the change who are gonna do the owners, like changing or painting some parts. In the angle you took the photo seems better than others.

How about the thicknes of the metal?

Ho boy! Congrats on the new toy!

Would you say it was the first cybertruck bought with Bitcoin?

I have been watching a lot of videos and all the reviews about that truck, and it's amazing how fast, strong and powerful it is, so, enjoy it. But what i don't understand at all is the price gap that you paid. Why did you pay more than 6 BTC?, i know the Bitcoin prize has been on a roller coaster, but 6.5btc is a crazy amount compared to the current prize order.

I tried to get pictures without anyone else in them, but it was difficult.  After about 10 minutes there were probably 30 people walking around touching it and taking pictures.  Surprisingly, most people didn't even know what it was or that Tesla was building a truck.  They just saw something awesome driving by and stopped to check it out.

I was honestly surprised by how thin the metal is.  I get that they have done a lot of work to make it extremely strong, but I expected it to be probably 3x as thick.  They must be working some serious magic for those panels to take the place of a frame.



It wasn't mine (I tweeted at the owner on Twitter using my @NastyMining account) and I haven't actually purchased one yet, nor do they accept Bitcoin yet so we'll see how it all goes.  I am still on the preorder list.  I would place the odds at about 60/40 of me obtaining a Cybertruck this year.  The deciding factor being whether or not I want to pay $20,000 for a Foundation Series truck to get it sooner or not.  While I do want it today, I also want the best product available, and given the advances in their 4680 batteries planned for the near future, it could add 10% to the range of the vehicle to just wait and get their latest 4680 revision batteries.  So a decision I'll have to make is whether to wait for a better product, or pay more to have a worse product immediately.  I'm still not decided, but Bitcoin's price the day I get the email will also be a factor.

Let me explain the pricing I have listed.  The day I ordered a Cybertruck I looked at the price and exchange rate and came up with a price.  Since that time both Bitcoin and the cost of the Cybertruck have risen, but Bitcoin has risen more, hence the price being cheaper today in Bitcoin.  I included this because 1) this topic would be moved if it weren't about Bitcoin and your boy gots to get his $, & 2) it shows that a rising Bitcoin price over time incentivizes Bitcoiners to hold out for favorable exchange rates.  Had I converted the funds to USD immediately instead of holding BTC I would not only not have enough USD for the purchase of the truck at the new pricing, but I also would have less BTC.  It was definitely a smart move (to the tune of $200,000 so far) to choose to hold BTC instead of USD for this purchase.

Because Tesla (and all electric vehicles) is one big ponzi scheme and clown Elon tricked many people by adding, then removing Bitcoin support from tesla website, and dumping bitcoin.
Everything about Elon is fake, but if some people like to waste money aka bitcoin on steel junk that will become useless soon, go for it.

It’s funny to me that you can become the richest person on earth, jumpstart the electric car revolution, give the world a platform of free speech, and help man become a multi-planetary species, yet people will still say bad things about you. I’ll never understand the motivation for people to be so jealous and bitter. It makes me feel better about being harassed though. Envy is real.

Admittedly he's done some good.
But I can't help but think about some of his antics,
Helping society seems to be a byproduct of his actual intents.

In an actual case of legitimate criticism, this is the first thing I’ve seen that is actually concerning regarding the Cybertruck. Gonna have to be careful with those fingers.

https://x.com/garageklub/status/1745107402033443015

Although people do show that other trucks like the Ford Lightning and even trunks of other Teslas perform the same way so it shouldn’t be a problem. Good to be aware of though with how people crowd around this thing.

The irony is thick here... accusing someone of being "a liberal" and then being concerned about nanny state not watching out for your fingers. Most people figure out how doors and various other openings work around the age of 2.

How about the cybertruck not being able to do simple truck things like driving in the amount of snow that my 2008 rear wheel drive shitbox with all-season junkyard tires does twice a day with no issues, not concerning at all?

https://jalopnik.com/cybertrucks-keep-getting-stuck-in-snow-1851148697

Check out this video showing someone off-roading their Cybertruck. When someone that knows what they’re doing gets behind the wheel of one of these bad boys it is pretty amazing what they can do. There’s going to be some awesome videos as more of these get into the hands of off-road adventurers.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l9yvPQTGQxQ

The first customer (non-employee) Cybertruck has been delivered. It is rumored that 50 per day are currently being produced with a fast ramp up planned as battery production picks up.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/heres-the-first-cybertruck-delivered-to-a-non-employee-congrats-to-susu2142-%f0%9f%99%8c/

The issue with driving is not due to the truck. The tyre tread is the biggest factor in its off-roading capabilities. The article you posted says it itself. The stock tyres that the truck is delivered is garbage for offroading. If they put offroading tyres as stock the range and speed of the truck would be a lot less in everyday situations. Its common sense really, you don't offroad with highways tyres and you don't drive on highways with offroad tyres. People who want to take the truck off-roading or who live in snowy/iced areas need to buy the appropriate tyres.
You will always have these videos every now and then of people who don't know how to use what they have bought properly and posting their failure on social media to giving Tesla a bad rep. And always goes viral because its a new product and its electric. But if you look past these short nonsensical clips at the design, manufacture and capabilities of the truck, it really is an incredible vehicle.

I'm not talking about off-roading nor does the article I linked to. The truck seems to be struggling on a driveway that other cars got through, including what appears to be a Model X in the background.

So either Tesla is putting utterly useless (for road driving) tires on it, or the idiots driving it have believed Musk's BS about the truck being a rugged go-anywhere bulletproof self-driving boat and are not actually driving it. Both kinda bad things.

Obviously it's the most incredible vehicle ever produced for civilian use.  Anyone who has driven one will tell you that.  Don't listen to someone driving a 2008 shitbox for information about what a next generation vehicle is like.  Even the images of them getting stuck in the snow is obvious it's user error due to the all-season tires not being produced yet.  All of the stuck vehicles I saw were also the "release candidate" models that didn't have things like traction control enabled yet.  None of the Cybertrucks on the road have all the built in features yet, like full self-driving for example.  Even things like the rear wheels turning has been capped at 3 degrees currently when it can do 11 degrees.  As they work the bugs out of the software and get things like the all-season tires in production, you'll see less and less stuck videos and more and more videos of it doing amazing things that no other vehicle can.  The denial is strong with some people.  However, they've gone from it will never be built to it can't drive in snow.  Soon it will be some other nonsense.  Can't wait to own one.  :)

That title still goes to the Toyota HiLUX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnWKz7Cthkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTPnIpjodA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFnVZXQD5_k

But there were a few CT around Vegas for CES. There were a couple you could drive and there were not a lot of takers from what I could see.

Not my thing, shrug, I have been driving and Ioniq5 for 6 months and think it's too big. More of a midsize sedan guy for a daily driver so I can't comment on the CT (and other large vehicle) appeal to others.

HOWEVER.....
There were a lot of EV charger manufacturers that had booths setup showing off their stuff. Some cool things coming on that horizon if it's not vaporware.
Once place had a hydrogen powered DCFC doing 350KW / 800V so you could have 100% off grid charging. Lets see if they get it into production.
The other interesting thing was micro DCFC stations. Low power put still more efficient then doing AC -> DC with the car. 3% loss vs 10%. The math was wonky on them however, would have to get the cost down to make it worth it.

-Dave

At least you're finally admitting that the "delivery event" last month was a sham. $100k for the privilege of being Tesla's beta tester, what a deal.

t deliveries to begin in volume in 2022." It's a bit of a wait, but I believe it will be worth it. 🚀 What do you think of the Cybertruck's unique design and features?

This family seems happy that it can make them coffee during a power outage. :)

An under-appreciated aspect of this truck is how it can provide power to a home. It’s like 10 Tesla Powerwalls. While the clip below is cool, the Cybertruck could power their entire house if they had their house ready for powershare. I’m sure they’re awaiting installation. No need to even leave your kitchen.

https://x.com/niccruzpatane/status/1746989812416954623

I’m seeing a lot of reports that Tesla is asking owners of the Cybertruck to remove the wheel covers to avoid them wearing down the tires. It is rumored that the wheel covers are being redesigned. Perhaps the first Cybertruck recall? The wheel covers are actually quite important for range, so hopefully they’re able to make improvements quickly before they ramp up production.

Look at some of the crazy mods people are doing! This particular cybertruck is owned by @heavydsparks. Now let me see these tracks get stuck in snow lol. Although I think the range of this vehicle may be very limited. This would make a good riddle stimulus: how many triangles are in the image  ;D ;D ;D

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/10/v1beJ.png

I don’t think this is true but I am seeing people talk about it on social media. When I looked in my account this reward wasn’t listed, but who knows… Maybe they’re rolling it out or something. In any event, if anybody wants to test drive a Tesla or buy one with my referral code you get 3 months of full self driving for free or $500 solar products… PM me if interested.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/16/YXH7q.jpeg

Thanks to those who PM’d me for my referral link and scheduled a test drive. It doesn’t tell me who does the test drives or purchases, only that they’ve been done or I’d thank you personally. Up until March 1st they are giving 10x the credits so each free test drive does move me a lot closer to being able to accelerate my preorder for the cybertruck! If you haven’t driven a model s before, might be a good time. :)

A cool little video clip showing the only place on the Cybertruck you’ll find any mention of Tesla. 

https://x.com/greggertruck/status/1764339763220455704

I am in the same boat.  I have a very low order number, ordered it within minutes of the prices being shown.  I have the ability to configure in my account now, but don't want to spend $20k extra and lose the $7500 federal tax credit.  In other words its $27k penalty to order now.   

Of course someone just sold one for $200k plus.

Damn, you could buy it and don’t? That’s crazy. You get full self driving, lifetime premium connectivity, and a few other things thrown in with that $20K. In reality, it’s probably only a $12K penalty to get it early and you could sell it for a profit and rebuy one when the price drops probably for free before you wait for a regular invite. Only reason I’m OK with waiting is because I think I’ll end up paying less than 1 BTC for mine the way things are going, but if I got the email invite I’d configure immediately.

What was the first 5 digits of your preorder number? I’m 11322.

While I have purchased my last six vehicles brand new, the most expensive one was $23k (MSRP $27k).  I was doing a 'Tesla stretch' to get the $50k cybertruck.  I would still be buying at $67k now, but $100k ($106k with taxes) is just too much.  Bitcoin is the wildcard though.  I would not need to sell any to buy in my budget as stated.  And that is the point for me, being responsible based on my own finances.  Yes, I still have considered splurging and selling Bitcoin to get it, but don't think I will. 

I will probably be ordering a lowest priced inventory model Y before the end of March, getting me new wheels for $35k, making the $106k even more crazy.

RN11274xxxx

Totally understandable. Thinking about it, I guess there is a big risk if you did buy, by the time you take delivery they aren’t selling at a premium anymore. If it doesn’t fit your financial plan, it doesn’t fit. If you don’t have anyone giving you a referral for that model Y, let me know. 3 free months of auto-pilot and me a step closer to getting one of these beasts to showcase for the community.

Thanks for posting your order number. I’m still so far…

I have a neighbor that wants me to use his referral, and they are a good neighbor! 

Oh... if I do get a cybertruck, it is going to have some Bitcoin branding on it.  Even would consider Bitcoin orange as a wrap at some point, but I also would love it naked too.

Was worth a shot.  :)

I didn't realize they were giving out 1,000 points for test drives or I would have tried harder to amass points with some sort of bribe or something to accelerate mine.  Still glad I have enough points for some Cybertruck merch but I want that immediate delivery!  A couple sales referrals would do it now.  Too bad nobody I know wants an electric car.  :-[

I could definitely get talked into wrapping it orange.  I saw a picture of an orange one with a black pillar delete style wrap on it that I wouldn't mind driving in honor of Bitcoin.  I also like the idea of green fading into black to somewhat match my Nasty branding.  

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/07/yJkT5.jpeg

Looks like Tesla hasn't started suing Cybertruck sellers yet for the $50,000 they threatened, but they are cancelling orders for people who are caught selling their truck and banning them from buying future Tesla products.  While they are refunding existing orders, new orders made by those who have been caught selling their truck will not be refunded.  I hope this is the beginning of the crackdown and as stated in the below article, buyers should have been limited to 1 from the beginning.  In any event, I hope we see more cancelled orders and less resellers getting their hands on these.  Those of us who actually want to drive them should be prioritized.  

https://electrek.co/2024/03/11/tesla-goes-after-cybertruck-owners-selling-electric-pickup-trucks/

Keep in mind if you take DELIVERY by the end of March you can get either 5000 or 10000 (with trade in) free supercharging miles. [In the US, don't know about the rest of the world] Just ordering gets you nothing.

I don't know your situation but figuring 4 miles per KWh that's 1250 or 2500 KWh not a lot of money but it's something, assuming you are in the $0.25 KWh range for power.

-Dave

Tesla is offering shareholders on record as of early 2021 that still own 500+ shares an opportunity to jump the line and get their Cybertrucks immediately. I’m not happy with all the line jumping. Especially since I didn’t start accumulating shares until late 2022. Holding out hope that I’ll still be able to get one in the next year.

Cybertruck got its first over the air update a little while ago. It added a few new features like an automated wiper but still no full self driving.

Cybertruck deliveries have been put on hold after a problem with the accelerator pedal has been discovered.  After watching a video on it, it appears that the problem is the pedal face can come off the pedal and get lodged in between the pedal and the space behind it causing the accelerator to stick.  This is actually a pretty serious issue and is a bit concerning considering the fix seems so simple.  They could have secured the pedal face on the pedal with screws instead of glue.  They could have put together the inside of the car so the space the pedal face is getting stuck is rounded.  These are the sort of things that happen with new products sometimes.  It will be interesting to see how they decide to fix the issue, with a redesign of the pedal or fixing the space it gets wedged into when it comes off, or both... 

Another interesting tidbit of info...  The Munro teardown of the Cybertruck showed that it's battery has plenty of space in it where there usually isn't in a Tesla battery.  The thought process is that this space is either an air channel for cooling, or that Tesla could in the future make their 4680 40% taller giving the Cybertruck a significant boost to range. 

With the 2024 deliveries all accounted for, it appears I will not be getting a Cybertruck this year.  Maybe this delivery hold will get some more people to cancel their orders (wishful thinking).

Deliveries have resumed and they have alerted current owners that they can come into a service center and have their accelerator fixed.  It looks like they did go with the simple option of securing the pedal with a screw of sorts instead of depending on glue.  Hopefully this oversight was due to the pedal cover being a cosmetic item and not indicative of other design choices on the truck.  In my opinion as someone who doesn't own one and has only seen videos...  I think they should do something about the lip in front of the headlights that can gather snow as well as the rear camera not having an automatic washer.  I have already seen aftermarket solutions for the rear camera washer.

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I’m told that the issue with the frunk on the Cybertruck potentially chopping off people’s fingers when closing has been solved and the fix is rolling out with an update now (2024.14.3). This should be a little bit of a relief. There are also a ton of off-roading updates in the software that unlock a lot of features that will excite off-roaders.

I got an email from Tesla stating the trucks will be on display in Europe soon, but it's probably just more of a publicity thing as it'll probably be a long time if ever if they go on sale over here, but hopefully some questions get asked and answered about their road legality or the likelihood of them ever being released in Europe: https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/cyber-odyssey?redirect=no&utm_locale=en-GB&utm_campaign=news_and_events_-_emea&utm_content=11_-_launches&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sendgrid.com&utm_term=cybertruck_tour_announcement


You can however buy the Cyberquad but only in a kids version: https://shop.tesla.com/en_gb/product/cyberquad-for-kids?sku=1914840-00-A

If they released a full-sized version I'd be all over that.


;D. At least they're making it less lethal. They probably shouldn't have rushed to push this out into full production as quick as they did. The only good thing about not having one as soon as they were released is they've got time to iron out all the kinks which there seems to be a fair few of

^ I understand why they rushed it. That manufacturing plant wasn’t cheap and the amount of people willing to pay a ridiculous premium has never been higher. Sure, he could have waited until the summer of 2025 to release a finished product and start selling them en masse for $60K, but why when he can rush them out now for $120K to rich people while he works out the bugs.

Because it costs you sales later.

The CT is not competitive on price (now), it's not competitive in real world use (range / towing, bed size), and it's getting a bunch of bad press due to the issues. It's going to cost sales later. Had they waited until it had a few more bugs worked out it might have been better.

Just my view. I drive an Ioniq 5, the person I work with just got a Y. The Y just came in a cheaper then mine. BUT, you give up a lot for that in terms of creature comforts. He was more or less just shopping on price. Had the Y been a few $ more, he would have been driving an Ioniq.

There are 2 people I know from the LI-EV group who passed on their CT reservations. NOT because of the issues but because of the price. They both got F150L and and could not be happier. BUT, had it taken another year and they could have gotten the $60 (or 65 or 70) CT they might have waited.

It's all just cost.

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Side note, having nothing to do with the above but more of a general thing about EV pricing. A big issue I am seeing now is the 'low end' models are really becoming unicorns across the board. Every make seems to have let Nissan along with KIA & Hyundai be the only sub $30K EV makers.

This is going to allow the 1970s all over again with inexpensive cars, coming from China instead of Japan this time, to dominate. And it has NOTHING to do with the cost of manufacture. It's the fact that they are cramming so much stuff in the base models that it's just putting the price up there. If I was looking for a base base base 50 to 75 mile a day total round trip commuter car do I really need a 10 speaker radio, power seats, and all the other crap?

-Dave

Well they probably needed to make up for the slump in revenue and to try please shareholders who've been holding out for something, but releasing a vehicle with a lot of faults is bad for branding and obviously also business. Here's hoping that something serious doesn't happen due to a fault because that would be pretty devastating on numerous fronts. I think Tesla was lucky with the stuck pedal issue. Had that lead to someone dying it would have been a different story. I'm sure everything will be ironed out but it is going to be interesting to see how well the vehicles hold up and if they start to rust or fall apart. I'd still love one but only if they iron all the issues out, but it's probably moot anyway given I'd be surprised if they ever release it in the UK. The UK tour is currently underway:

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/1896041/Tesla-Cybertruck-UK-tour-dates-first-look

Badass mom vehicle


Source and Video link: https://twitter.com/cybertruck/status/1773421474155487269?t=9ebgc_PsFvgT4329ZN8-Bw&s=19