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Just a thought, We have all witnessed how just a tweet from a top individual in society can influence the price of bitcoin. We have also seen many people tweet about something so much, it becomes a trend and something popular that almost everyone hears about. This has got me thinking; if we all collectively pick a day or a period of time and all agree to tweet, post and create a trend about bitcoin that will last a while on twitter or any other social media platform, will this help the current price of bitcoin get to a higher ATH?

Not going to work, even if you could get enough people to participate on it then what is next? You are just manipulating the price for the short term and after this is done the price will go back to where it was, it is better to let bitcoin do its thing and wait for the organic growth coming from adoption, besides bitcoin is easily above 55k, why should we do anything about it when bitcoin by itself is doing such a good job? Just forget about it and accept we cannot control the price of bitcoin and it will go up when it is the right time.

If you look more closely you can see that such things do not always successfully affect the market. In fact most times they are ignored by the majority specially if the post is against the ongoing market trend.
But you can also see that such effects are small and short term.

So you are saying that we should create a "bitcoin pump and dump group" and you think that "saves" bitcoin?! lol.

This.

The same applies to the stock market. Today Biden sneezes and the market goes down, China's president laughs and the market goes up, to give examples in a simple way. Relatively minor events can make the price of a given stock go up or down in the short term, but if the company is strong and has good fundamentals, the long-term trend is always up.

It is the same thing that happens with Bitcoin, the fundamentals are good, and it doesn't matter if in the short term a tweet or a certain piece of news makes the price go down a little, the long term trend will be to keep going up.

That's why I don't think it's worth wasting time with collective actions.

Just HODL.

Yeah,great idea.Let's just spam social media and create a BTC price bubble that will last for a few days. ;D
Any idea about what content should we tweet/share/post?
All the social media platforms have algorithms,which are based around user engagement and reach.
The more users engage with a post(likes,views,comments) the the bigger reach it will have and more people will see it.The engagement must be organic.Nowadays,social media algorithms are smart enough to find fake engagement,therefore ghosting posts that have fake engagement.

Maybe the reason that it didn't work is because there isn't enough people that have been doing the thing to move the market, I mean look at the Wallstreetbets Gamestop fiasco, if there was enough people to move the market then the market will move.

I think that is what OP wants. To be honest though, it is a pretty shitty idea because it needs a lot of people, you can just do your thing and continue trading in bitcoin and cryptocurrencies and you will be good to go.

I prefer that the fluctuation of the price of bitcoin remains as we are seeing it because it is insane that it is different, what you suggest is manipulation. If you like the social network Twitter, you should follow PlanB and understand his predictions.

I believe in his analysis because so far the price of bitcoin is shown as is to his ideas.

What would that do? There are thousands of people talking about Bitcoin in Twitter everyday, and other social media platforms. It will not change anything. Leave the market alone, and let it do what it is going to do. Zoom out, HODL, the Honey Badger don’t care, and other things. 8)

If you are not a popular person in the world, people will not think much about your tweet because they do not see that you can lift the price to a higher price. But if you make a tweet collectively with many people, that can be a pump and dump moment because people see many tweets in many channels or forum or groups, so they will think that the next thing that can happen is the price can increase. I am sure that we can lift the price increase fast and will reach the new ATH. At least, you need more people to tweet about the good news of bitcoin, so people will see that bitcoin really gives benefits to them.

I believe I've seen a similar of this post before @OP, not the same but carries similar contest to it and I'll be so glad to tell you that, it ain't going to work. Nope, it won't! Trying to make a pump and dump through twitter groups won't work so well as to influence bitcoin price.

No matter how many fractions of crypto enthusiast you form into groups, it is when we trade these currencies that, the prices move in the way it does and being a part of these pump groups, your most likely not to trade with the Knowledge of the fact that, its just a pump.
Besides, how many fraction of the world's crypto enthusiast can you be able to gather into your pump group? Will every individual comply?

The bitcointalk forum is here and yet, our ideas and what we agree on are diverse still. There is no way just another pump grouo can work because, you can only have so few of the crypto enthusiast bounding as one.

Only popular persons can manipulate the price of bitcoin but it won't last too long, they can manipulate for doing a single tweet but it only won't make the bitcoin going too strong. We know that probably all of the people linked to cryptocurrency have social media account so they may notice and encounter those tweets regarding cryptocurrency. Some of them agreed and some or not, which makes the bitcoin moves a little bit.

How on earth does this save Bitcoin? And why does it need saving? And if we all go and Tweet about it and it works, then it means Bitcoin can be manipulated by everyone like Gamestop stocks. That would actually prove Bitcoin's decentralization is wrong and so we would all end up hurting Bitcoin in the end anyway, don't you think?

Only them can influence the market. But who knows if an organize and big boot from each retailer will be that powerful to influence the bitcoin market.
I remember the wall street bets and how they made noise on the stock market. Well, who knows but probably not going to happen.

Tweets can not help bitcoin price move to new all time highs.

• The awareness of more people about the scarcity of bitcoin does.
• The increasing difficulty and the more expensive cost to mine one bitcoin do.
• The fear of can not able to own any bitcoin does.
• If you consider the main force of the market is institutes & institutional investments (not retail investments), tweets don't change their plans.

We have witnessed before that the price was affected in a good way after the searches about Bitcoin on the internet increased. The same effect can be created by doing so in the social media also. But you can be sure that it won't last long. It will just be effective for a short period and after that the price will most probably go back to its old level.

As much as wanted the price to really pick up again and make a rally,  I would rather see the price increase naturally, without someone influencing it like Elon Musk or other social media influence. Bitcoin has been in the trend, we don't need to pick up one tweet that we all can agree, with the bitcoin space open wide, I doubt that we can even agree on one subject there. Sorry but your suggestion doesn't work.

Do you think that we really need that kind of push?  :) Why should we need to create a new ATH while bitcoin is already high enough?

Bitcoin does not need any social media or any kind of FOMO to make it become more famous. A short-term uptrend only makes things worse and people lose their hope in bitcoin, especially those newcomers who expect bitcoin as a long-term investment rather than a short-term loss.

There are many other ways which you can involve and help people to raise their awareness such as educating them. Knowledge is what people mostly lack while they tend to think that they know everything. More understanding of bitcoin, blockchain, cash, economy, and decentralization will make a lot of people fascinated in learning and starting to utilize bitcoin.

It may help the bitcoin adoption, but it will in total fortitude help scammers, bitcoin trending/cryptocurrency trending is capitalize by scammers, if in all for instance 100 people post about bitcoin on social media, many of which may be scams for newbies, you hardly see in the comments section of a You Tube video about BITCOIN and cryptocurrency even forex where scammers don't dwell, I think the Key word Bitcoin into circulation, let newbies do there search-up.

Uhm no, if such a thing were possible, then you'd see countless products being advertised all at once in every platform possible if they wanted to hype it up. They could even have an agreement with other competitors to do it in cycles, who knows. But anyhow, it isn't possible or rather, it isn't effective. Making it trend in Twitter (or any other social media platform) would only be a temporary boost to its popularity and that's it. It'd be quick to be extinguished just like how quick it went on fire.

Those top individuals you’re talking about like EM are special after all, and we little and ordinary people can’t compare to someone who has about 50 million followers and hundreds of billions of dollars. Such people are influential precisely because of these things, and have an army of blind followers who respond to their every word - and thanks to the digital age they can create a bad or good effect within minutes.

No matter what anyone thinks of such people, it's certainly better to have them on your side than against yourself - and how much it helps or doesn't help Bitcoin time will tell. If you want to help Bitcoin, use every opportunity to explain to people what it's really about - you have the opportunity to do it every day on this forum or in real life.

Elon Musk it is, but you have to think that not all personalities like Elon can influence the market in a positive way, even a simply tweet from whale alert about a huge bitcoin move could shake up the price or somewhat create FUD.


We are in a bullish market, regardless, we are going to hit ATH sooner than expected. You just need to be patience and not rush to see the price going parabolic because what happen next could be a flash crash.

If that's what elite people do, we've seen lately when Elon Musk gets into twitter about Doge. Doge went straight to the moon. if you want to make bitcoin has an old trend there must be a lot like elon musk entering into cryptocurrency.

We won't affect the market price that much , since there would be a matter of agreement and at the same time do you think this would be seen in a good light by other people?
If rich and already successful people does this it's considered their tactics and then people laugh but if common people try and do this they will have a huge backlash from the market eventually the people will start seeing Bitcoins in a bad light. I did not see people actually taking an action against Elon Musk for time and again influencing Bitcoins and other ATH but I do think that the government for sure take an action against all the people involved in such things.
Well something like that did happen in India if I remember correctly and people were close to getting charged I really don't know much about it. But then again the point is : will it be really seen in a good light by other people ?

Isn't this more dangerous? because if there's people who is trying to actually help promote Bitcoin, then there's people who will take advantage of it. Let's just say that those top individuals, like Elon Musk, and most people who support Bitcoin tweet or promote Bitcoin at the same time then I'm sure there's going to be an artificial pump from people who got FOMOed or people who doesn't know Bitcoin. I'm sure there's going to be a massive dumping after that that will become a backlash to spread negative opinion about Bitcoin and negative opinions about those top individuals.

You will end up buying on someone's position so what happen next? guess you will end up bag holding and left worried about when the possible pump, we already seen this from pump and dump group so better trade individually rather than looking forward to make this thought happen. Also I know you aim to earn from this but this kind of technique is not really working try to make those other who plan to set the same like this and they collapsed afterwards.

If you want to save Bitcoin, just put it in a HODL wallet, and don't spend it. :)

Such idea will not be possible to work for the reason that not all people fall into such things concerning other people to tag along into what is trending into just a group of individuals talking about cryptocurrency for the fact that there are lots of people talking about cryptocurrency on different social media platforms making it just a normal day and such thing will not have a big effect into Bitcoin. The reason why those tweets from big personalities affect the market is because of big movements done due to the power of influence of such individual affecting other people's belief to tag along with the trend. But creating groups trying to recreate such trend will not work as you think it is. Also, that will not be a long term solution people manipulating the market in groups. Better get stick into what is the current and focus on things you can do by yourself.

The influencer are really helpful for the bitcoin to pump because they tweeted a lot of positive information about bitcoin and the people who following them for sure most of them are invested to this coin and because there is a lot of famous people are advertise the bitcoin so it will become trends world wide and because also the price of it why it will turn popular. But remember those people who help the bitcoin value to rise it also possible to gives mis information to their followers that can cause dumping value.

If your social media has as many followers as Elon Musk, feel free to do a Bitcoin promo, so it can make the price of Bitcoin go up. But if you don't
have a large following, then it's best if you just let a popular person like Elon Musk do the job. We just become good viewers and let Bitcoin move
according to supply and demand as is happening today. Bitcoin is already on the right track in my opinion, so we don't have to bother helping
Bitcoin's price go up.

And also, promotion in social media alone will not help bitcoin. Such kind of promotion is just short term. Why not, contribute in its usage. If you do own a business, whether a small or big one, you can integrate crypto or btc as your payment method. In this way, you are helping the adoption of btc in the payment system. Because promotion in social media is not a sustainable one. There are better ways to support btc. You can also help other newcomers to understand more about crypto. Educate them on what you know all about crypto. Sometimes, education is more than enough for other people to support a new technology.

lol how can you make it happen? remember that people around the world never stands in same thought , it has been obviously happening why the trend keeps on making the market shaken.

Just Make your own diligence and don't just follow the tend .

Let us do our own way in helping the crypto and not just Bitcoin because this market does not stand only with Bitcoin but with all altcoin also.

It can impact price on very small local exchanges but it can not have small effects on big and global exchanges. Global exchanges have superb big volume and a small group can not change the price. Not to mention the participants in those groups are not bitcoin whales. They are retail investors or inexperienced traders only.

They tweet and readers / followers of their tweets have own responsibilities to extrapolate their tweet meanings. Like this classic image

I see their tweets are funny and can cause ups and downs on the market in short term. In the long term, real effects will come from real capital and investments such as institutional investments that have lasted since 2020.

It's true that if we want to help Bitcoin, we don't have to promote it through social media, but more effectively by using it as payment.
If we have merchants accepting Bitcoin payments is something that really helps Bitcoin to be more useful. Unfortunately I don't have
any merchants, so what I can do to help Bitcoin is by educating others who don't really understand Bitcoin. Usually I start educating people
around me to understand Bitcoin better, even though it's not easy to do that. Because it sometimes takes a long process to convince others
that Bitcoin can bring good changes to human life.

If we use the same keywords or hashtags we may just be able to break it into trending. This is provided that a lot of us here in the forum jump into the hype and help us market these projects. If we do this by the thousands, we'll literally have a chance at letting the mainstream media know about bitcoin and how to get, keep, and buy one as well.

You're absolutely wrong with this because we are just a small investor and we can't really hardly affect the market if we just want to do it.

Those high profile personality or big investors can only hardly affect the price of bitcoin in the market. They can control the volume and the hype if they all make actions at the same time. Also don't rely on Twitter because there are also false reports or fake news that you can get there due to scammers.

Always observe the market and be mindful and ready when the price extremely increase it is up to you if you will do something when that happens.

There is a difference between Elon Musk's tweet and when someone with a few hundred people tweet something about Bitcoin.  ;)  Elon Musk is a influencer and he also know what he is talking about, when it comes to payment systems. (He sold his payment company and it later evolved into one of the biggest payment systems in the world.) 

Yes, if millions of people start tweets about Bitcoin, it will highlight the issue and it will stimulate some media frenzy ....but a few 100 people will not have a impact at all.  :P

That what whales do, just follow and join certain groups, they will give you a heads up when is the best time to buy and sell not just Bitcoin but other coins as well. Rather than making a group of small volume of people which has no impact on the Bitcoin when they tweet, why not join the big one instead.

That is if you know where to find one because most of this groups that you are trying to patronize sometimes are in it for the quick cash grab from the people that will be joining their group for nothing which should have been obvious in the start. Also following a certain person should have the criteria that they are active and interacts with their followers because if not then there is a low chance that they are going to sway the market.

Bitcoin is purely a decentralized asset and rarely work on few people statements or tweets. There are people and companies who influence the world and bitcoin is not an exception. But there are many rear chances when bitcoin goes up because of some statement. See current bull run, it's on bitcoin own mood.

We dont need hype on where those so called analyst or popular people or influencers in the net do say up some words about bitcoin with just basing with mere speculation or just opinion.
It cant really be denied that this market is really highly reactive when it comes to news and sentiments thats why when such things been popped out in the market then majority do mostly
include these into their analysis for some possible price shift or whatsoever.Sometimes it doesnt really make any effect at all which it really make even more unpredictable.
We dont need hype as i said earlier, what we do need is actual recognition and adoption if we do really aim for more possible ATH's in the future.

If I was just an ordinary human being that scrolls down in Twitter, Facebook or even Reddit and I managed to read that post with plenty of heart, retweet, etc, I would most likely just skip it.

I would think of it as shilling a coin and it could be a purely a scam.

Let people decide on their own whether they want to invest something in Bitcoin or not. I already tried that with my other friends and they don't even care.
Oh would you look at that whopping 20k -> 57k increase.

So no, I don't think your suggestion would help OP.

So basically you are asking to create a FUD from the people,
Yes it could work but there is also a chance that it wouldn't.
It has been done before and it needs to be created with some back up not just a pure bluff.

Yes that's true, in fact in 2017 bitcoin was really hype as well. The price rocketed quite great that time, and btc is really popular that many people wanted to buy it. However, it didn't last really long, not even a year later i guess the price started to decrease a lot, many people lost their interest and trust in bitcoin, and even i thought that it might be the end.
However, now, bitcoin came back again, and even sixth or even seventh time higher than that time. It's a lot of thanks to the infouencer as well though, so i really believed that the words from influencer or trends can really affect bitcoin price. I hope btc won't suddenly decrease a lot like before, but keep getting higher or staying stable.

I believe that the current cryptocurrency market is much more stable than in 2017 and, accordingly, the bull run should be longer than it was at that time. At least in 2017, the bull run lasted an average of one year, and on this basis, the current bull run should last at least until the end of 2021. At the same time, one should take into account the fact that in 2017 there were about 30 market corrections.Therefore, there is no need to panic today, because corrections have always occurred in the cryptocurrency market. The main thing is not to succumb to the influence of real alarmists.

I also notice that a simple tweet from a person who has one of the biggest names in the world can manipulate the price of the bitcoin or any cryptocurrency that they are going to mention in a tweet, but this is not a solid manipulation because it will last only for a short time. The best thing to do about it is you have to buy immediately once they have tweeted and mention a cryptocurrency and observe the market then just sell it if there is a simple movement that you have seen.

That's unlikely. Even a large group of people won't have that much effect as one or several influential people. How many Bitcointalk members are there, around 3 million? There are, however, many non-active members or people who only post in locals, don't enter this thread.
Let's assume there are about 50k active users which will actually read your suggestion here and agree to support it and that each one of them actively uses Twitter and has at least 100 followers, which will take seriously whatever you post on Twitter (and I am already rounding up a lot and looking at the best-case scenario).
That'll give us, what, 5 million views? But popular people have 40-60 million at least and there's a much higher chance that someone will retweet them and they'll be recognized by serious organizations.
So nope, that won't help to hit the new ATH. But why would you want that in the first place? The price is stabilizing now, let it be. Personally, I don't miss price runups and high fees, do you? :D

This only will work for a popular ucbiul figure. You know, how many people have tweeted about cryptocurrency so far? So many people. Moreover, they also promoted new projects also. But it will never work at all. Because we are no one. The tweet will work to make people hype and FOMO and then becomes pump because they are popular, rich, and also have a big influence on the world.

What actually keeps the price of bitcoin going forward is real demand and supply theory, doing a serious campaign tweeting on Twitter would perfectly affect the price of bitcoin but that wouldn't last for a long term, this in turn is just the same thing that happened when Elon will add a coin name in his profile, the coin will skyrock but suddenly fall drastically, it a just a matter of excess hype but not demand and supply rules, the essence of having a good and decent rise at which it goes for a long time is actually the multiple holders of bitcoin.

Adoption is all we need and not that tweet post or trend just to make the price reach some ATH because this wont really be sustainable for long term.

Saving bitcoin or help to rise up? It doesn't really need at all because things would just go normally depending on how the entire community will be supporting it.

Thing here is that you do know on how to ride up with the waves for you to make profits out of those movements instead on minding on how we should
make it pump.

Sometimes the best help is not to try to help. Because very often our good intentions may cause harmful effect on the process that is going good enough without our participation. In my opinion the activity in social media is very intensive nowadays with lots of hashtags, comments and so on. In order the Bitcoin topic will not be banned like the virus topic, it is better not to hurry up the processes that are going on successfully enough without artificial activity.

Bitcoin will do whatever the whales want. Right now the whales want a higher price and it goes higher. Little people's ability to move the markets is very limited. Only a guy like Elon can do stuff like that because his influence over the markets is huge and as you know Elon is a whale too.

tldr; if you want to price fix the markets, be a whale.

It would do a lot a few years ago where awareness was much lower. Now with high awareness and high price there's hardly any people who don't know about bitcoin.

Maybe in poor societies you could still educate people but this won't move the price. Poor people don't have a lot to spend and the rich already know about this investment opportunity.

Tweeting and stuff is always good but I don't think it's going to move the price. You need millions of dollars to do anything.

As we have seen a similar example before which affected the price in a good way, I think we can produce the same effect by tweeting etc. too much on social media also. It can really make things easier for the price to reach a new ATH.

I do not think that such actions will affect the market in any way and raise the price of Bitcoin. In my opinion, the main thing is the demand, it determines the price and the direction of the price of Bitcoin.

The bitcoin price movement will not always up every momment, there will be a time for the price drop or meet a correction to make the investor believe that the movement price is not pump and dump scheme. Yeah, we have been witnessed many time bitcoin is being used as pump and dump scheme and this thing always happened is low time frame.

I mean, we can force bitcoin price always up. We need to know a good situation to make really know that the instutional investor is also think that bitcoin is really worth and the situation can make them get a huge profit. Like, when we see a good news then we can update it to our social media. This thing will really have bitcoin touch new all timr high.

What made a difference if you refer to Elon's tweets is that actually went on to do what he wrote. He said he was going to buy bitcoin and he did, he said he was going to allow Tesla's customers to but Teslas with bitcoin and he delivered.
There's a huge difference in talking and doing, do you know what I mean?

It is genrally considered as manipulation.
Musks tweet and news about BTC being accepted had such a big impact also because it was the first time big company is accepting BTC as payment not to mention that Elon is the '' god'' of tech.

Also you wont be able to move BTCs price much it now has a lot of volume , most likely it could move btc a little bit and then it would go stright back down.

you can't bro, everything that is done is already a special strategy. and usually done by big influencers, or big companies that have a lot of money. people will easily believe that the price will be able to have a high price. So I thought this was ridiculous and couldn't work out easily

I don’t think it’ll work, because as most people here says you are manipulating Bitcoin price. And for a short amount of time? The only way you could possibly manipulate Bitcoins price is to buy a lot of Bitcoin, so when you want to play with the market; as what some whales do, you can then try to save/help Bitcoin by then according to you.

I don't think there will be enough people interested in this venue to achieve the same effect as has a tweet by someone who has millions of subscribers. Moreover, even the effect of such tweets is hard to determine. For one, they might coincide with some serious actions (they can announce a decision to adopt Bitcoin at some level rather than just announce some opinion about Bitcoin). Another thing is that they can be popularized a lot by media outlets which might not do the same for an online flash mob. Furthermore, this usually doesn't make lasting changes to the price, so even if this whole thing is very successful, it will drive the price up only briefly, and then the price will fall back due to the lack of support.

It's a pretty great thing maybe but I don't think it will fit in Bitcoin and maybe it doesn't even need it at all, and all of the hype from tweets is just manipulation and hypes.

Without the demand, I don't really think it is going to work because most of the people are just gonna buy and then sell at a pretty rough timing so it's like a pump and dump thing.

But it could actually work depending on the tweet message if it is something that is positive or just not kind of positive news about bitcoin.

Collective tweets from a big group to push or advertise bitcoin can at least give Bitcoin a positive view but it would give a maximum impact if the tweet is coupled by demands on the market.  This is what we called hyping with "evidence".  Tweets may lie but the trade result on the market won't, even though it is manipulated.   So I guess action (market push) coupled with words (collective tweeter hyping) can possibly help BTC to reach its new ATH.

I don't think so, creating a trend on Twitter might bring a significant change to the current price of bitcoin but it doesn't mean it will lead to a new ATH. Moreover, we should take into consideration the other factors which mainly affects the market value not only social trend.