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In my society or the society at large Religion has been my basic concern, have been seeing the role religion is playing, the positive and negative aspect of it.

   So today you will tell me the positive and negative impact of it in your society or Environment.
  I go first,the positive aspect of it have seen is it brings unity among group of people, while d negative aspect of it is too much;
(1) so many people have been brain washed all in the name of Religion
(2) people spends more time to their religion which has affected so many lives
(3) people think religion will liberate them from poverty.

Common sense > Religion

Religion was common sense when there was no internet. Back in the day the only way to transfer past experience to the future generations was via books. Now nobody reads physical books anymore because you can read everything from a pdf.

In 2021, you don't need somebody to tell you that drugs are bad. You can figure that out by yourself.

for me religion is just campfire stories to teach morals and laws.
using entertaining stories of magic and mystery to have those stories remembered.
where the ethos ethics and morals of the story are about peace. respect and not harming others

negatives are they people ignore the morals and ethics and use the stories to excuse them when they do harm by taking exerts out that allow them to be forgiven and thus able to do harm without taking responsibility

Exactly @ op religion has caused and brought so much propaganda in our recent society many believers today argue blindly about religion and Christianity ✝️ there’s indeed a close thin line between the both and it is often confused for being outrightly religious, most pastors now try to extort money from their congregation all in the name of offerings and tithes once more again religion has brought more negativity and comparisons in our society than I can literally imagine.

pastor: my fellow flock.if you pray your life will become richer from god
flock: so then pastor you should pray more and stop asking us for money and ask god instead

it is funny how one side says pray to pay.. and actually means pay to pray

Religions are remnants of tribal cultures.  They unite strangers in common beliefs and build immediate trust and co-operation based on those beliefs.

On the flip side, they provide plenty of reasons to hate, kill, or discriminate against 'others'; people with different worldviews or religions.

Religions are ancient myths still propagated today to extract wealth from unsuspected, gullible, mostly uneducated, and poor people.

They are evil and primitive at their core, as were the cultures that invented them.

Science has proven them wrong, over and over, but people still follow them as part of their cultural tradition, out of fear, or just by being intellectually handicapped or lazy.

Historically, religion has primarily been a method of social control. Partly as a tool to enhance cohesion, like a tribal affiliation, fighting together for the glory of your deity, as a proxy for a flag, or other symbol. Partly also as a tool to enforce good behaviour... god as an all-seeing all-knowing invisible policeman... if transgressions against the prescribed moral code are automatically punished in the afterlife, then you as a leader have less need to surveil your citizens.

Nowadays I suppose it's often a crutch or support mechanism for those who find scientific reality a little brutal and hard-edged... which can be helpful as well as harmful. Also, with the weight of history behind it, religion has a huge cultural element and importance as shared heritage.

I think you posted that while I was typing my reply... basically what I was going to say above, although yours is less diplomatic (and more honest?)

It unites yes for people who have the same belief.

But the negative of it is that it also divides people including those believers and non-believers. It creates a debate and makes one prove that he's on the right point and proves the other that they're not on the right point.

Religion has been since ancient times and still is until now the most effective engine in society. Religion has a great role and an effective influence on the lives of people in all societies, from primitive societies to modern societies. People have always felt that they need religion to organize their lives.
The positive aspects of religion are that it organizes relationships between human beings in a way that calls for mercy, tolerance, and the spread of justice in society. It gives people permanent hope that their future will be better and this helps them to pursue their lives in peace and tranquility.
The bad side about religion is the control of clerics or extremists in every society over the lives of people and their intimidation of the consequences of anything they do, no matter how worthless it seems, they understand religion in their own way and do not allow anyone to contradict them and spread corruption and tyranny in the name of religion and turn people's lives into hell.

Except that some people (not just religious conmen, aka. religious leaders) get the opposite from their religious teachings: lack of empathy for others (who don't agree on the same religious dogma, Sunni vs Shiites), intolerance (gays, transgender, women), injustice in society (women's reproductive rights, gay rights).

"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.”
― Steven Weinberg

Im my country religion plays no big role anymore. I remember my grandparents were going to church every week and praying every morning and night. With hindsight it was a good think to be honest. Religion helped them to live a better a life. But what I can't understand is how some people misuse religion for their personal gain and fight wars.

Religion becomes a business so if you are smart make money out of it or simply go for other business and if you have lot of free time and lot of money and you don't know what to do with that then just go in the religious way so you can spend time and well as money for good cause. But if you are poor then you can become rich by working not by praying.

@OP.

And the biggest religion these days is science.

If science had only maintained its original meaning of discovering and gather knowledge, science might not be a religion. But since science now includes placing faith in science theories - some of which will never be proven - science has become a religion.

Believing that something is fact, without the knowledge that it is fact... that is religion.

Let's take science back to the day of pure science... discovery and recording of what was discovered... so we can take it out of the category of religion.

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Religion has brought more controversies and division than we could see it today. Yeah it helps in making some people feel righteous just because, they behave in a certain way and build a good relationship with their religious figure hard but, what about the people around them. Everyone outside their religious circle becomes a case of sin or an infidel to them. This is really bad! It surprises me how they claim to worship one supreme being and yet, the doctrimes vary so much and I begin to wonder how come about all these doctrims?
Religion is suppose to be the thing that bonds our world but what we have today is far from what we expect it to be, its more of a divisor than a uniting factor of our society.

Religion is the legalized scam in the present day society, it creates and helps to improve poor economy of a country, how can a religious member buys a factory and converted it to church where they will be praying for jobs.,that's insane and that can't fight poverty.

This reminds me of the study I was reading recently about a scientific research, I read that the oldest bone in the world was found in Ethiopia, Africa about 4.2 million years ago, Immediately, I compared that with christianity story of creation of Adam and Eve from a book which is about 2700 years old now.

The result: Religious stories are illusions and myths without proofs and facts, it's impossible to feed thousands of people with two fish and five loaves of bread, in Islam, there was a flying donkey that drove Mohammed to heaven., these stories can't happen and can't exist.

Science shows the actual proof and facts about the evolution of mankind and others to talk about.

Except that there is no sound, scientific evidence that the earth is older than about 5,000 years. That is as far as we can go back without making assumptions that we are using correct dating methods.

Dating of the oldest bone is based in beliefs that the science used is accurate, when it is well understood that there could easily be mistakes and assumptions involved in the dating methods used.

Modern science, because it includes assumptions, and might be rooted in all kinds of mistakes because of this... is religion.

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Religion in my place is becoming their fountain of salvation every time they do unforgivable things, thinking that they will be forgiven as what's written in the book of Bible.

They are attending sunday's masses as just like past time that they think as they attend it, all their acts are refreshed, and cleansed. As they go back to their weekly routine of being a "bad" person base on their religion.

And politicians do use religion as their basis for their action, when it is written in constitution that religion and politics shall be separated.

There's many more, that I forgot what it is.

^^^ But the people of the science religion realize that they aren't going to be saved by science. They know that they are doomed. But they keep hoping that science will find a way to everlasting life for them. In fact, that's the driving force behind the scientists promoting Covid and a mRNA vaccine for it.

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"IN FACT, that's the driving force behind the scientists....." Are you a scientist yourself? do you work with scientist to have a solid deduction that they've said those things? or do you have a solid evidence, record that shows somehow?

Cause if theres non, then thats not a fact, thats your own opinion.

You must work with scientists. Notice that you want to follow their silly religion.

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The impact of something is deternmined by how we use it.

Religion plays a crucial role for a person in giving a cultural identity. Each religion has festivals, traditions, mythologies which form a part of the tangible and intangible heritage of the country. Thus, religion contributes in order to protect this heritage and also adds to the diversity in the country.

Religion helps in creating an ethical framework and also a regulator for values in day to day life. This particular approach helps in character building of a person. In other words, Religion acts as an agency of socialization. Thus, religion helps in building values like love, empathy, respect, and harmony.

People are always on the quest of fulfilling the economic and material pursuits in today’s world. It is the religion which plays a crucial role in establishing our connection to the divine and developing the belief that there is a supreme energy that acts as a regulator in our day to day lives. Thus, the components of prayer, chants, hymns, etc. creates the spiritual bond.

Each and every religion promotes its philosophy and the crux of it has always been the welfare and wellness of the people. For example, in the Sanatana Dharma, there are ideas like Vasudaiva Kutumbakam (the whole world is a family), Sarve Sukhina Bhavantu (let everyone be happy) which nurture and cultivate love and compassion in the society.

I am the one asking the question, cause you drop a "weighted statement" without giving supporting details, documents, records that will prove you .

Well, I'm not going to drop a bunch of links for this, but here it is...

Einstein's Theory of Relativity has been a theory for a long time... well over 100 years. This means that it is known to not be proven to be factual, and the length that it has been a theory shows that it should be dropped from theory to some lesser category. But you almost can't find a scientist who uses it, and at the same time acts like it is only a theory. Most of them will say "theory." But most of them will treat it as fact.

Now, if Einstein's Theory of Relativity happened to be the only theory that was treated as fact, we would have a "Einstein's Theory of Relativity Religion." But the thing is, many scientific theories are treated as fact. Take Big Bang Theory for example. Everybody knows that the universe is around 13.5 billion years old, because the BB theory says so. Yet, it's just a theory, and one that can be collapsed quite easily.

Right in the theories alone science has become a great big religion.

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Religion has a lot of positive impact to the society
Religion is to give correction, rebuke, direction on how to live life.
But when one ties himself to religion too much , makes  one to be ignorant

in my religion, there is no promise to be rich if I embrace it...
It cannot be denied that some people think that they are blessed because they embrace a religion with a good job and also abundant wealth, they don't really understand the purpose of religion itself. for me religion is a measure of positive life because without it I do not know what is good and bad.

So religion is like cocaine. 

In small, infrequent doses it can cure your cold, but when used frequently
and copiously it can destroy you and the people around you.

All you are saying is that you don't even realize that everybody has his own religion? In other words, there are 7.5 billion religions on earth. Just because a person says he is part of this or that religion, doesn't mean that he believes just the same as any other person in that religion.

And that is the point. Trying to emulate some group religion, or the religion of somebody else, actually turns a person's religion into the religion of hypocricy.

It's kinda like you, running around loose with a religion of non-religion.

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Although the issue with Christianity is often the focus behind many people's response like this, Religion does not just pertain to Christianity , church services and pastors. Religion is a general organized set of beliefs that a group of persons hold dear. As a matter of fact, if you follow world history, even before the origin of Christianity, humans always sought to place beliefs in things or forces they could not see as a way to feel connected to a source.
When one begins to fall deep into those beliefs and starts to eliminate normal human logical reasoning, one has become too religious, and when one becomes too religious, he/she begins to act as though they have been brainwashed, and this is a major problem.

When it comes right down to it, a person's private, personal religion is based on his freedom to choose a group, or no group at all.

Without freedom to chose there would be no religion, and without religion, there would be no freedom to choose.

Religion is essential for people to have life as people. If they didn't have this freedom, they would simply be like animals, acting out of instinct, rather than choice.

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Religion does not offer freedom.  It offers fear, servitude, submission, and bondage.

Religions are institutionalized cults.

What there is no scientific evidence for is most of the nonsense you write.

Nowadays religion has a decreasing importance, thank god, we could say, lol.


The clearest example of this is the Middle Ages, when religion served to reinforce the subjugation of the majority of the population in the estates. One had to suffer in this life because God would reward in the next.

I'm sorry, but this claim is utter nonsense. There are plenty of examples of application of the theory today. To take one: GPS. If this didn't account for relativistic time dilation, it simply wouldn't work. Also, if we ignored Einstein and stuck with Newton's notion of a privileged reference frame, if we said there was absolute space and absolute time, rather than them being relative, then how would electromagnetism exist? Field changes would be propagated instantaneously. It's absurd. Newton was a genius, but a genius from the 17th C. Things have moved on somewhat since then. The idea of an absolute reference frame is an anachronism. Science advances, and understanding advances because of this.

The question of why relativity is a 'theory' is a little more complex. I have no desire to get into a discussion with you on scientific terminology. The important point here is that relativity - unlike, say, religion - is falsifiable. Experiments can be performed where if the results went a certain way, it would disprove relativity. And despite many attempts to do so, relativity has not been falsified. Experimental evidence demonstrates that it reflects reality extremely accurately.

Change is the naturalness of time the infallible religion of time but the type nature and sequence of change are not under the control of time and space. Change in society due to religion can be desirable undesirable and positive negative religion makes life easier for people in society and thinks about the hereafter and prays for those who follow their religion the change of religion creates a comprehensive idea about the present and the future. Religious meditations religious doctrines the validity of religion and the practices customs rituals and related political and social changes related to the practice of religion.

I think religion is acceptable because it is rational and has a positive impact on society.
religion is a way of life about belief in a creator which includes rules or laws that must
 be carried out by all
 followers in every life and if they do not obey there will be a period of reprisal which becomes a risk for sinners.

Religions are irrational.  Buraqs/horses with human faces could not exist. In Bronze Age, women who did not have vaginal sex could not get pregnant.  Angels, demons, and other mythical figures do not exist.  Hell and heaven do not exist.  We checked.

Religions have a negative impact on human progress.

Most religious 'laws' are illegal in civilized countries.  For example:

1. Killing people who work on Sabbath is illegal
2. Killing gays is illegal
3. Discrimination of women is illegal
4. Stoning is illegal
5. Burning of witches is illegal

Your 1-5 are simply religious ideals that some hold dear... same as the reverse of your 1-5 are other religious ideals that others hold dear.

All of your 1-5 are legal if they are done in a legal system that holds them to be legal. But they are illegal if they are done in a legal system that says they are illegal.

Your animosity against legal systems that do things differently than you want, is some of what makes for wars. You ain't smart enough to figure out what is fundamentally right or wrong.

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Killing men who have sex with other men is wrong. Killing people who work 7 days a week is wrong.

Religious peoples' moral compass is skewed; if they even have one.

You might be a closet serial killer if you think 1-5 should be legal.

In the USA societies, 1-5 probably are not appropriate laws to be made. However, in some racial groups within the USA lands, such laws would be entirely appropriate if they WERE made. So we see that racism is unjust in the USA. Why? Because the races of BLM and Antifa do all kinds of things that you don't like. But they are allowed... why?

1-5 are right if the societies wherein they are exercised, exercise them legally. What? Are you trying to make people of other races slaves to your ideals? Sounds to me like you are a professional slave-maker.

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As he said, religion is irrational, and so are you.

You emphasized the "BIBLE" which is "Christian religion" how about the others, do their rules matter to you?

Does eating a blood matter to you, cause in christian catholic, you can eat blood while in others you can't.

In Muslim, pork is not supposed to be eaten while in christians, it is allowed.

Thus religion is irrational, as they limit everything based on their own beliefs, and disowns others who contradicts their laws.

I used to be religious when I was younger. As I grew older I saw people who use religion to justify discrimination of certain groups. I think many Christians are hypocrites and pick and choose which aspects of the Bible they want to follow. There is also something strange about worshipping a being who you cannot see and who cannot talk to you. Religion has held us back in many ways. There are some things which are not considered morally acceptable but they don't harm any third parties and there is no logical reason why we can't do these things.

Indeed, they are also very controlling in many different aspects such as the way you needed to be dress, the way you supposed to eat, the way you need to work, and many more. Never minding other religions that contradicts their owns.

In some instances, they discriminate other religions for having a different beliefs other than them, it is very toxic

One more little step, and your religion will be racism.

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What kind of religion you are talking about, hmmmm

Anyways, respecting other peoples beliefs is something this religion uncapable of doing.

You should be able to figure out what kind of religion it is. Doubt if anybody else can.

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Initially christians normally do good and echiewed evil, the idea of doing the right thing is supposed to be the priority of every believer.these days believers do not see evil as bad, they trivialize it. One who wants to be a good christian must learn to do good and echiewed evil, people use religions to deceive,dupe  and misleading people is quite alarming, we need to amend our ways in order to make God happy.

The question is, when a Christian tries to love his neighbor as himself, does that include fighting off BLM and Antifa rioters who are attacking your family? I mean, you need to protect yourself, because you are the bread-winner for your family. And, you love your family more. Besides, they are trusting you.

Seems to me that Christian neighbors getting together and protecting themselves from non-Christian riotous neighbors is the right thing to do.

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I know a truth that says...Religion is that is only acceptable and can be consider as one is ..taking care of the widows, orphans and one who keeps himself from being polluted by this world.. meaning to say.. no religion can really save one but only our true and personal Relationship with our creator -God, religion should help us bring out the best in us and use it for common good and brought positive impact to the people around us. That for me is a religion.

But I'm incapable of figuring out what kind of religion it is. You should be able to tell me now, don't be shy.

Already told you. But let me say it again, real plain.

It's your own personal religion. The only way to know what it is, is to get inside your skull, and live your life with you... at least for a while. And that's too scary for me to even want to do for a tiny while.

Maybe your life experience will reveal your religion to you sometime.

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Oh so everyone has their own personal religion, so Roman Catholic is fake, the same with muslim, and other existing "religions" out there. Or my interpretation is wrong. If it is, maybe clear it up ofor me  ;)

Religion were a way to keep peace and harmony in society when there were no rules or way to implement them. Clinging to imaginary gods created 1000s of years ago is so wrong. I still respect religion as a culture but there are many things that easily prove there exists no such god as assumed by many popular religion.

1. If there is god, what is it doing when the world is suffering from pain and injustice, what's the use of such helpless god who can't even do justice for it's followers?
2. If the god is powerful and above all of us, if it loves all of its sons and daughters, why does it ask to pray for it? Is god just another corrupt bureaucrat who just wants to listen people praising it? Why does it asks you to make other compel to follow it like a underworld gang (true for some religion)?

Even if there's a powerful and intelligent god, I'm quite sure it would be merciful enough to forgive and love every of it's children even though they question it's existence and whether they bribe it with prayers, chants, foods and offerings or not. The only way to pray to god would be with good actions, compassion and love.

Why do you think that Roman Catholic is fake? There are millions of people around the world that hold it as part of their religion... some a big part. Think a little. It's boring having always to explain things about life to you.

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Oh I thought that individual religion is the real deal, as far as you've said it. Damnit.

That's right. Individual religion. Nobody can foist their religion on anyone else. Your religion of inexperience is still yours.

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So inexperience is now a religion, I see

You said this^^. So either inexperience is part of your religion, or direct, intentional lying is.

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I just clarify your sentence regarding inexperience being a religon. hmmmmm

Ooooops whose lying or whose not. Or maybe again you're wild guessing again.

1- Religious practice appears to have enormous potential for addressing today's social problems.
2- Strong and repeated evidence indicates that the regular practice of religion has beneficial effects in nearly every aspect of social concern and policy.
3- Legislators should seek constitutionally appropriate ways to explore the impact of religious practice on society and, where appropriate, recognize its role.

You are simply gaining experience... switching religions.

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Gaining experience on what? switching religions?

I don't think so, cause I believe that religions exists because of the similarities in beliefs thus forming a group that shares it. That's what the religion like catholic, Islam or any other. And I respect their beliefs

You should not.  Their beliefs are idiotic. 

But I do understand your desire not to be killed by a religious fruitcake.

Yabut, that's part of your religion. And it won't save you from the final judgment.

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With many religion now a days we can still see the negative impact of religion in our society. People are still hopeless, helpless and homeless, there still division or faction, and all kinds of mess and destruction, these could only b means that we need more than religion.. we need relationship to One True God the One who created the heaven and the earth and if we know Him the impact would be positive.

Religion in my opinion, holds us back as a human civilization because we are progressive species and religion is a regressive entity that tries to hold on to morals that are savage and immoral in the current standard. If a religion always has a say when there is an issue in the state, that's where the problem comes in.

I think part 2 of your list is actually a valid point, in a good way. Religion demands of us to think about others and invest time in going to the mess and to pray. While some people find that lost time, it depends what we would do instead during that time. Instead of going to. Sunday church we would probably just stay in bed and don't do anything productive. Or what about praying in the evening, if we wouldn't do that we could go out drinking, which is also bad.

I have seen things that are very sad and regrettable, in the last few years many people have created many churches and are saying that they work miracles, that they are prophets and that they will heal people and that they will solve all people's problems when people go to church. the part that makes me sadder is that most people are poor, they have nothing to eat and they go to church to give the little money they have to the priest and the priest gets richer every day while people get poorer every day

but let's face the facts:

covid killed and it's killing hundreds of people a day, all the governments in the world at some point closed the churches, if the priests do miracles, why don't they come and cure covid?

there are still people who are blind and can't see that have a covid and the priests can't cure covid so they can't cure anything