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Title: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Quickseller on May 12, 2021, 04:44:55 AM
The terrorist organization Hamas, has recently launched hundreds of missiles targeting Israeli citizens. Some of the missiles exploded while still in Gaza (where Hamas is based), and Israel was able to use its missile defense system, the Iron Dome, to shot down the majority of the missiles before hitting their civilian targets. Unfortunately, not all missiles were destroyed, and some Israeli civilians were killed, and Israeli citizens were forced to go into bomb shelters for safety.

In response, the IDF, Israeli Defense Force, launched airstrikes against 130 terrorist targets. Hamas prefers to use citizens of Gaze as human shields, however the IDF will contact civilians before conducting air strikes, giving them the opportunity to move to safety before the targets are taken out.

What do you think? Is Hamas right to target Israeli civilians, who are innocent? Is Hamas right to use citizens of Gaza as human shields in order to protect their military assets from air strikes by Israel?


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: jrrsparkles on May 12, 2021, 05:07:47 AM
I saw some clips regarding this which looks too scary and its not acceptable to attack civilians no matter what but no one is going to care about it because its Israel, if this happened to any other country then the world media will cover this and enforce them to apologize. Humans exists but humanity dies very long time ago.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 12, 2021, 06:06:10 AM
The terrorist organization Hamas, has recently launched hundreds of missiles targeting Israeli citizens. Some of the missiles exploded while still in Gaza (where Hamas is based), and Israel was able to use its missile defense system, the Iron Dome, to shot down the majority of the missiles before hitting their civilian targets. Unfortunately, not all missiles were destroyed, and some Israeli civilians were killed, and Israeli citizens were forced to go into bomb shelters for safety.

In response, the IDF, Israeli Defense Force, launched airstrikes against 130 terrorist targets. Hamas prefers to use citizens of Gaze as human shields, however the IDF will contact civilians before conducting air strikes, giving them the opportunity to move to safety before the targets are taken out.

What do you think? Is Hamas right to target Israeli civilians, who are innocent? Is Hamas right to use citizens of Gaza as human shields in order to protect their military assets from air strikes by Israel?

I never endorse using  innocent civilians as targets to achieve Political objective either this act is done by Hamas or Israel. This long standing Bloody conflict of Palestine should come to an end now that has killed thousands of innocent civilians during the past 70 years. UNO and major world powers   should play their role to bring both parties on table and work out a solution  where both can coexist peacefully.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Renampun on May 12, 2021, 09:21:57 AM
sad to hear that many of the victims who died were children and women...

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‘Baghdad Central’ Star Maisa Abd Elhadi Injured By Israeli Forces During Protest
The Palestinian actress was shot during a protest against forced evictions by Israeli authorities in East Jerusalem, a situation that has sparked deadly violence across Israel, Gaza and the occupied West Bank.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/palestinian-actress-maisa-abd-elhadi-shot-israel-1234951120/

I am not defending either country, it's just that the attack this time is a very bad act, must be held accountable :(


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Mauser on May 12, 2021, 10:19:50 AM
The terrorist organization Hamas, has recently launched hundreds of missiles targeting Israeli citizens. Some of the missiles exploded while still in Gaza (where Hamas is based), and Israel was able to use its missile defense system, the Iron Dome, to shot down the majority of the missiles before hitting their civilian targets. Unfortunately, not all missiles were destroyed, and some Israeli civilians were killed, and Israeli citizens were forced to go into bomb shelters for safety.

In response, the IDF, Israeli Defense Force, launched airstrikes against 130 terrorist targets. Hamas prefers to use citizens of Gaze as human shields, however the IDF will contact civilians before conducting air strikes, giving them the opportunity to move to safety before the targets are taken out.

What do you think? Is Hamas right to target Israeli civilians, who are innocent? Is Hamas right to use citizens of Gaza as human shields in order to protect their military assets from air strikes by Israel?

I think that any violence is wrong, Hamas is wrong and so is Israel. We are living in 2021 and are fighting a global pandemic. Can't we move on from all this war and terror. Why can't the international community force Israel and Hamas onto a table together? There must be a solution for this fighting. We should all work on a compromise. Maybe Israel is stronger and has more power, but still for a comprise everybody has to give something up. Just let the people live in peace, without violence.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 12, 2021, 10:38:12 AM
The terrorist organization Hamas, has recently launched hundreds of missiles targeting Israeli citizens. Some of the missiles exploded while still in Gaza (where Hamas is based), and Israel was able to use its missile defense system, the Iron Dome, to shot down the majority of the missiles before hitting their civilian targets. Unfortunately, not all missiles were destroyed, and some Israeli civilians were killed, and Israeli citizens were forced to go into bomb shelters for safety.

In response, the IDF, Israeli Defense Force, launched airstrikes against 130 terrorist targets. Hamas prefers to use citizens of Gaze as human shields, however the IDF will contact civilians before conducting air strikes, giving them the opportunity to move to safety before the targets are taken out.

What do you think? Is Hamas right to target Israeli civilians, who are innocent? Is Hamas right to use citizens of Gaza as human shields in order to protect their military assets from air strikes by Israel?

I think that any violence is wrong, Hamas is wrong and so is Israel. We are living in 2021 and are fighting a global pandemic. Can't we move on from all this war and terror. Why can't the international community force Israel and Hamas onto a table together? There must be a solution for this fighting. We should all work on a compromise. Maybe Israel is stronger and has more power, but still for a comprise everybody has to give something up. Just let the people live in peace, without violence.



https://i.imgur.com/GoE6L4Q.jpg


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: af_newbie on May 12, 2021, 01:06:48 PM
The terrorist organization Hamas, has recently launched hundreds of missiles targeting Israeli citizens. Some of the missiles exploded while still in Gaza (where Hamas is based), and Israel was able to use its missile defense system, the Iron Dome, to shot down the majority of the missiles before hitting their civilian targets. Unfortunately, not all missiles were destroyed, and some Israeli civilians were killed, and Israeli citizens were forced to go into bomb shelters for safety.

In response, the IDF, Israeli Defense Force, launched airstrikes against 130 terrorist targets. Hamas prefers to use citizens of Gaze as human shields, however the IDF will contact civilians before conducting air strikes, giving them the opportunity to move to safety before the targets are taken out.

What do you think? Is Hamas right to target Israeli civilians, who are innocent? Is Hamas right to use citizens of Gaza as human shields in order to protect their military assets from air strikes by Israel?

Hamas has taken the Palestinians hostage.  It is a terrorist organization that should be eradicated by all means necessary.

The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a religious conflict. If both countries became secular and closed ALL mosques, churches, and temples; banned religions as ancient cultural relics, Palestinians and Israelis would live in peace and harmony.  (Palestinians would probably outbreed Israelis in no time, but that is another issue.)

Until then, they will be bombing themselves until the Armaggedon comes (which is never).


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: rhomelmabini on May 12, 2021, 02:09:39 PM
To be honest, I don't think there's something right on what Hamas is doing by now and that should be taken out of the context. I'm just hoping this will end so soon.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Quickseller on May 12, 2021, 05:59:33 PM
I never endorse using  innocent civilians as targets to achieve Political objective either this act is done by Hamas or Israel. This long standing Bloody conflict of Palestine should come to an end now that has killed thousands of innocent civilians during the past 70 years. UNO and major world powers   should play their role to bring both parties on table and work out a solution  where both can coexist peacefully.
Hamas is both targeting Israeli civilians, and is using Palestine civilians as human shields. The IDF will call civilians to warn them of incoming attacks to reduce civilian casualties.


I think that any violence is wrong, Hamas is wrong and so is Israel.
What do you think Israel is doing that is wrong? They are defending themselves.



Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: boyptc on May 12, 2021, 09:42:28 PM
When I've seen some footage that are destroying buildings, the civilians are the ones that I've thought of and with the damage by those missiles, you cannot expect someone to survive with those explosions.

My wife got an ex-colleague that's currently affected on that terror attack and shared they're now in those shelters. They still don't think that they're safe but the worse feeling that she have shared is that she's having a mental breakdown and cannot take what's happening.

To be honest, I don't think there's something right on what Hamas is doing by now that should be taken out of the context. I'm just hoping this will end so soon.
That's what I'm hoping for too.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 13, 2021, 02:55:12 AM
I never endorse using  innocent civilians as targets to achieve Political objective either this act is done by Hamas or Israel. This long standing Bloody conflict of Palestine should come to an end now that has killed thousands of innocent civilians during the past 70 years. UNO and major world powers   should play their role to bring both parties on table and work out a solution  where both can coexist peacefully.
Hamas is both targeting Israeli civilians, and is using Palestine civilians as human shields. The IDF will call civilians to warn them of incoming attacks to reduce civilian casualties.


I think that any violence is wrong, Hamas is wrong and so is Israel.
What do you think Israel is doing that is wrong? They are defending themselves.



Israel has right to defend its citizens but their Military action is also causing causalities of innocent civilians. There should be some serious efforts from US administration to mediate between Palestinians and Israelis to end killing of innocent people on both sides.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/israeli-palestinian-conflict-11620825247


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Quickseller on May 13, 2021, 03:03:14 AM
I never endorse using  innocent civilians as targets to achieve Political objective either this act is done by Hamas or Israel. This long standing Bloody conflict of Palestine should come to an end now that has killed thousands of innocent civilians during the past 70 years. UNO and major world powers   should play their role to bring both parties on table and work out a solution  where both can coexist peacefully.
Hamas is both targeting Israeli civilians, and is using Palestine civilians as human shields. The IDF will call civilians to warn them of incoming attacks to reduce civilian casualties.


I think that any violence is wrong, Hamas is wrong and so is Israel.
What do you think Israel is doing that is wrong? They are defending themselves.



Israel has right to defend its citizens but their Military action is also causing causalities of innocent civilians. There should be some serious efforts from US administration to mediate between Palestinians and Israelis to end killing of innocent people on both sides.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/israeli-palestinian-conflict-11620825247
The innocent civilians are not dying because of Israel's military action, they are dying because of Hamas using them as human shields.

Frankly, the US should intervene and remove Hamas from power, with force if necessary. Hamas can only be described as a terrorist organization whose purpose is to terrorize innocent civilians if their government does not do what they want. This is unacceptable.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 13, 2021, 04:44:20 AM
I never endorse using  innocent civilians as targets to achieve Political objective either this act is done by Hamas or Israel. This long standing Bloody conflict of Palestine should come to an end now that has killed thousands of innocent civilians during the past 70 years. UNO and major world powers   should play their role to bring both parties on table and work out a solution  where both can coexist peacefully.
Hamas is both targeting Israeli civilians, and is using Palestine civilians as human shields. The IDF will call civilians to warn them of incoming attacks to reduce civilian casualties.


I think that any violence is wrong, Hamas is wrong and so is Israel.
What do you think Israel is doing that is wrong? They are defending themselves.



Israel has right to defend its citizens but their Military action is also causing causalities of innocent civilians. There should be some serious efforts from US administration to mediate between Palestinians and Israelis to end killing of innocent people on both sides.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/israeli-palestinian-conflict-11620825247
The innocent civilians are not dying because of Israel's military action, they are dying because of Hamas using them as human shields.

Frankly, the US should intervene and remove Hamas from power, with force if necessary. Hamas can only be described as a terrorist organization whose purpose is to terrorize innocent civilians if their government does not do what they want. This is unacceptable.

I hope wisdom will prevail and all peaceful means will be used to resolve this conflict. Life of every Human matters.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Renampun on May 13, 2021, 06:04:12 AM

I hope wisdom will prevail and all peaceful means will be used to resolve this conflict. Life of every Human matters.

as long as the struggle for 'land' between Israel and Palestine never ends, the war between the two sides will continue...

Hamas and Israel not only launched attacks this time, it's just that the spotlight is Hamas using children and women to attract sympathy from citizens of other worlds. why did Hamas not evacuate children and women during the attacks?

both countries are equally wrong and both should be the ones to be sanctioned.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 13, 2021, 06:45:30 AM

I hope wisdom will prevail and all peaceful means will be used to resolve this conflict. Life of every Human matters.

as long as the struggle for 'land' between Israel and Palestine never ends, the war between the two sides will continue...

Hamas and Israel not only launched attacks this time, it's just that the spotlight is Hamas using children and women to attract sympathy from citizens of other worlds. why did Hamas not evacuate children and women during the attacks?

both countries are equally wrong and both should be the ones to be sanctioned.

Absolutely right. This is very deep rooted conflict and has history of more than 70 years. It is neither religious nor political, it is the dispute of land that has caused millions of death in Middle East. There is no Military solution of this never ending conflict , Military solutions of Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq have created more hard core  terrorists despite killing Millions of people and spending Trillion of dollars because root causes of terrorism were never addressed.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: UmerIdrees on May 13, 2021, 01:41:39 PM
What do you think Israel is doing that is wrong? They are defending themselves.

Really, i think you are not aware of what Israel is doing with innocents Palestinians citizens and killing children/women brutely. If you're not aware, i can give you video proofs.

By the way, why there is double standards when it comes to self defense and terrorism.

https://i.imgur.com/puW9yrC.jpg


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: BitcoinHodler on May 13, 2021, 05:06:43 PM
The terrorist organization Hamas,
these days every time i read this term be used to describe Palestinians it reminds of The Man in the High Castle. it's a 60's novel and a more recent TV series about an alternate universe where the Axis of powers (Nazi Germany and Empire of Japan) have won the word war II and are now ruling the world. in US that is split in two between Nazis and Japanese there are Americans forming resistance groups who are disrupting the occupiers rule, for example they bombed a train moving Nazis weapons into San Fransisco IIRC and the next day the papers and news outlets (now owned by the Nazi government occupying US) read "terrorist attack" then they lined up civilians and killed 10 for each soldier they had lost.

funny enough back in the 40's when Nazis were invading Europe and their planes bombed civilians including hospitals they made claims like this. the same planes dropping bombs were also spreading flyers claiming the "Allies" are responsible for these bombs:
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In response, the IDF, Israeli Defense Force, launched airstrikes against 130 terrorist targets. Hamas prefers to use citizens of Gaze as human shields, however the IDF will contact civilians before conducting air strikes, giving them the opportunity to move to safety before the targets are taken out.


the targets are changed, the names, ethnicity and religion of the victims are changed but genocide hasn't.
Nazi regime wanted to expand its territory and capture the whole world while killed everyone mostly Jews in their gas chambers and furnaces
Zionists regime wants to expand its territory but on a smaller scale and only in Middle East (for now) while killing everyone mostly Muslims but the technology is advanced they don't need to build gas chambers and furnaces they use fast moving planes they buy from US to drop globally banned bombs on them to burn them in their homes and in their schools,...


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: NotATether on May 13, 2021, 05:12:13 PM
What do you think? Is Hamas right to target Israeli civilians, who are innocent? Is Hamas right to use citizens of Gaza as human shields in order to protect their military assets from air strikes by Israel?

No and no.

Any sane person can tell you that.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Quickseller on May 13, 2021, 09:01:15 PM
Hamas and Israel not only launched attacks this time, it's just that the spotlight is Hamas using children and women to attract sympathy from citizens of other worlds. why did Hamas not evacuate children and women during the attacks?
Hamas is using women and children as human shields. The Israelis try to get the civilians out of harms way when launching attacks against military targets. When Hamas launches attacks, they do not target military targets, they target civilians.

What do you think Israel is doing that is wrong? They are defending themselves.

Really, i think you are not aware of what Israel is doing with innocents Palestinians citizens and killing children/women brutely. If you're not aware, i can give you video proofs.

By the way, why there is double standards when it comes to self defense and terrorism.

[terrorist propaganda image censored ]
Israel targets military targets that have things like weapons stashes, military infrastructure, solders, and terrorist leaders. Hamas intentionally has these targets near where civilians live so the humans can be used as human shields. Hamas also will launch rockets from areas inhabited by civilians, and it is not uncommon for the rockets to misfire and to hit Palestinian citizens.

There is no reason for Israel is not use the maximum available force at their disposal. The strength of Israel's military is no secret. Hamas is the aggressor, and launched rocket attacks against Israel unprovoked.

"nazis"
the targets are changed, the names, ethnicity and religion of the victims are changed but genocide hasn't.

Hamas is trying to kill all the jewish people. This is exactly what the nazis were trying to do.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: BitcoinHodler on May 14, 2021, 01:54:54 AM
even Jews all around the world are speaking out against the crimes committed by the Zionists while you want to keep your head in the sand and not read past their propaganda!
it doesn't matter though because the reality won't change.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: cabron on May 14, 2021, 02:06:13 AM

This war had been going on for centuries already and that holy land doesn't look very holy when you get to see the grounds.

Many celebrities now react to what Israel is doing though. It appears like the media could turn the table since they now had been speaking against Israel shooting everywhere to the Palestinians, that's not good. If they are to shoot, they can shoot but not the civilians.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 14, 2021, 03:20:17 AM
Hamas and Israel not only launched attacks this time, it's just that the spotlight is Hamas using children and women to attract sympathy from citizens of other worlds. why did Hamas not evacuate children and women during the attacks?
Hamas is using women and children as human shields. The Israelis try to get the civilians out of harms way when launching attacks against military targets. When Hamas launches attacks, they do not target military targets, they target civilians.

What do you think Israel is doing that is wrong? They are defending themselves.

Really, i think you are not aware of what Israel is doing with innocents Palestinians citizens and killing children/women brutely. If you're not aware, i can give you video proofs.

By the way, why there is double standards when it comes to self defense and terrorism.

[terrorist propaganda image censored ]
Israel targets military targets that have things like weapons stashes, military infrastructure, solders, and terrorist leaders. Hamas intentionally has these targets near where civilians live so the humans can be used as human shields. Hamas also will launch rockets from areas inhabited by civilians, and it is not uncommon for the rockets to misfire and to hit Palestinian citizens.

There is no reason for Israel is not use the maximum available force at their disposal. The strength of Israel's military is no secret. Hamas is the aggressor, and launched rocket attacks against Israel unprovoked.


"nazis"
the targets are changed, the names, ethnicity and religion of the victims are changed but genocide hasn't.

Hamas is trying to kill all the jewish people. This is exactly what the nazis were trying to do.

I think we are debating non-issue and not talking about the root cause of the conflict  which is " Land Dispute" Nazis, Hitlor, Jews are irrelevant. This conflict will never end if International community consistently  fails to address the Real issue. Historically International community will intervene and do some fire fighting, nothing more than that.




Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: franky1 on May 14, 2021, 03:25:45 AM
If both countries became secular and closed ALL mosques, churches, and temples; banned religions as ancient cultural relics, Palestinians and Israelis would live in peace and harmony.  

...
you do realise that the latest tensions were triggered because of the lockdown and the banning of religious congregations

yep when one side used its police to tell the other side they cant pray at a certain temple.. the other side pushed back. then the police doubled the efforts and then the other side did.
.. it then escalated

inclusion is the solution not exclusion
its the same everywhere else.. segregation is not the solution. as black&white issues have learned

jerusalam is a religious area. so banning religion in an area of religion will just make all the religions fight the atheists
.. again not a solution.

inclusion. where it does not have a flag of any particular faith is the solution. allow any religion.. that is the solution. integration not segregation

heck.. in america.. even amung the atheists. if they suddenly banned anyone from admiring or dressing up or appreciating elvis. there will be protests and riots.
thats why the solution is to let people just be themselves and just dressup however they like.
if you dont want elvis banned then dont cry about wanting other appreciations banned

i dont like trump. but trying to ban people from wearing fake tans and blonde wigs is not the solution


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 14, 2021, 03:46:39 AM
If both countries became secular and closed ALL mosques, churches, and temples; banned religions as ancient cultural relics, Palestinians and Israelis would live in peace and harmony.  

...
you do realise that the latest tensions were triggered because of the lockdown and the banning of regigeous congregations

yep when one side used its police to tell the other side they cant pray at a certain temple.. the other side pushed back. then the police doubled the efforts and then the other side did.
.. it then escalated

inclusion is the solution not exclusion
its the same everywhere else.. segregation is not the solution. as black&white issues have learned

jerusalam is a religious area. so banning religion in an area of religion will just make all the religions fight the atheists
.. again not a solution.

inclusion. where it does not have a flag of any particular faith is the solution. allow any religion.. that is the solution. integration not segregation

heck.. in america.. even amung the atheists. if they suddenly banned anyone from admiring or dressing up or appreciating elvis. there will be protests and riots.
thats why the solution is to let people just be themselves and just dressup however they like.
if you dont want elvis banned then dont cry about wanting other appreciations banned

i dont like trump. but trying to ban people from wearing fake tans and blonde wigs is not the solution


https://i.imgur.com/F3eeQ2a.jpg


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: UmerIdrees on May 14, 2021, 05:46:01 AM
What do you think Israel is doing that is wrong? They are defending themselves.

Really, i think you are not aware of what Israel is doing with innocents Palestinians citizens and killing children/women brutely. If you're not aware, i can give you video proofs.

By the way, why there is double standards when it comes to self defense and terrorism.

[terrorist propaganda image censored ]
Israel targets military targets that have things like weapons stashes, military infrastructure, solders, and terrorist leaders. Hamas intentionally has these targets near where civilians live so the humans can be used as human shields. Hamas also will launch rockets from areas inhabited by civilians, and it is not uncommon for the rockets to misfire and to hit Palestinian citizens.

There is no reason for Israel is not use the maximum available force at their disposal. The strength of Israel's military is no secret. Hamas is the aggressor, and launched rocket attacks against Israel unprovoked.


So in summary, if any Israel citizen is killed, it is because of the Hamas targeting civilians too. However, if any Palestinian citizen is killed, it is because of hamas themselves because of their misfire rockets.

Now don't you think that since the International TV media is all in control of Israel, they can do whatever they like and still blame/show Hamas for killing both in Palestinian and Israel citizens ?

Thanks for the social media, which can't be controlled and true face of Israel is being shown.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 14, 2021, 01:30:19 PM
What do you think Israel is doing that is wrong? They are defending themselves.

Really, i think you are not aware of what Israel is doing with innocents Palestinians citizens and killing children/women brutely. If you're not aware, i can give you video proofs.

By the way, why there is double standards when it comes to self defense and terrorism.

[terrorist propaganda image censored ]
Israel targets military targets that have things like weapons stashes, military infrastructure, solders, and terrorist leaders. Hamas intentionally has these targets near where civilians live so the humans can be used as human shields. Hamas also will launch rockets from areas inhabited by civilians, and it is not uncommon for the rockets to misfire and to hit Palestinian citizens.

There is no reason for Israel is not use the maximum available force at their disposal. The strength of Israel's military is no secret. Hamas is the aggressor, and launched rocket attacks against Israel unprovoked.


So in summary, if any Israel citizen is killed, it is because of the Hamas targeting civilians too. However, if any Palestinian citizen is killed, it is because of hamas themselves because of their misfire rockets.

Now don't you think that since the International TV media is all in control of Israel, they can do whatever they like and still blame/show Hamas for killing both in Palestinian and Israel citizens ?

Thanks for the social media, which can't be controlled and true face of Israel is being shown.


Human conscious is still  alive and now we can  see even in western countries liberal voices are rising against oppression of Israeli Military. Israelis are rapidly losing support of
International community but some western powers continue to support it because their economies are made hostage by Jewish capitalists as it happened in Germany before WW2. 


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: af_newbie on May 14, 2021, 02:20:31 PM
If both countries became secular and closed ALL mosques, churches, and temples; banned religions as ancient cultural relics, Palestinians and Israelis would live in peace and harmony.  

...
you do realise that the latest tensions were triggered because of the lockdown and the banning of regigeous congregations

yep when one side used its police to tell the other side they cant pray at a certain temple.. the other side pushed back. then the police doubled the efforts and then the other side did.
.. it then escalated

inclusion is the solution not exclusion
its the same everywhere else.. segregation is not the solution. as black&white issues have learned

jerusalam is a religious area. so banning religion in an area of religion will just make all the religions fight the atheists
.. again not a solution.

inclusion. where it does not have a flag of any particular faith is the solution. allow any religion.. that is the solution. integration not segregation

heck.. in america.. even amung the atheists. if they suddenly banned anyone from admiring or dressing up or appreciating elvis. there will be protests and riots.
thats why the solution is to let people just be themselves and just dressup however they like.
if you dont want elvis banned then dont cry about wanting other appreciations banned

i dont like trump. but trying to ban people from wearing fake tans and blonde wigs is not the solution


Do you realize that this is a religious conflict?

Do you realize that without Judaism and Islam, there would be two things less to disagree and fight?

There would be just one country: Israeline (or Paletsrael) with Semitic people living there.  

There would be no Zionists or Islamists.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: tsaroz on May 15, 2021, 01:31:00 PM
I am against any religious extremism. But what's Israel is doing to Palestinian has nothing to do with religion but an oppression of human rights.
The western world terms Chinese cultural assimilation of Xinjiang as genocide while keeps a blind eye on real genocide that's happening over Palestine.
I condone the terrorist attack of Israel over Gaza. The world has been glorifying the genocide of Hitler over Jews half a century ago every year while the Jews refugee nation of Israel keeps on doing same level of genocide each year to the people of Palestine.



Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: jrrsparkles on May 15, 2021, 01:41:09 PM
even Jews all around the world are speaking out against the crimes committed by the Zionists while you want to keep your head in the sand and not read past their propaganda!
it doesn't matter though because the reality won't change.
The solution will be achieved atleast at the end of this world because that is the only way though since the clash is going for almost a century now and serious clash for over 60-70 years.



Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Natsuu on May 15, 2021, 04:41:48 PM
even Jews all around the world are speaking out against the crimes committed by the Zionists while you want to keep your head in the sand and not read past their propaganda!
it doesn't matter though because the reality won't change.
The solution will be achieved atleast at the end of this world because that is the only way though since the clash is going for almost a century now and serious clash for over 60-70 years.



There's too many sides to the story of how it started, and who is in the lesser evil spot. Nevertheless, I will disregard it and focus on the OP, assuming that it is all truth and nothing but the truth.

It is not by any means good to use civilians as a shield, even at war, they don't let civilians be part of it. It is like some kind of war rule/code.

Using them as a human shield is not acceptable.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: jrrsparkles on May 15, 2021, 06:19:15 PM
even Jews all around the world are speaking out against the crimes committed by the Zionists while you want to keep your head in the sand and not read past their propaganda!
it doesn't matter though because the reality won't change.
The solution will be achieved atleast at the end of this world because that is the only way though since the clash is going for almost a century now and serious clash for over 60-70 years.



There's too many sides to the story of how it started, and who is in the lesser evil spot. Nevertheless, I will disregard it and focus on the OP, assuming that it is all truth and nothing but the truth.

It is not by any means good to use civilians as a shield, even at war, they don't let civilians be part of it. It is like some kind of war rule/code.

Using them as a human shield is not acceptable.
What if I say the hamas from the Gaza is actually made of civilians, there is no separate people who called Hamas and they are portrayed as terrorists just because they are fighting for their rights. ::)



Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 15, 2021, 07:05:33 PM
even Jews all around the world are speaking out against the crimes committed by the Zionists while you want to keep your head in the sand and not read past their propaganda!
it doesn't matter though because the reality won't change.


Please correct me if I am wrong, when I study the history of Jews,  I fail to understand why their history  is so terrible, their empires were ruined by Romans , babbles, Iranians and many other nations and they were forced  to leave their homeland many times  and worst part of it is WW2 when Millions of Jews were murdered. Why they are always victim of Hatred by almost every  nation. Please don't misunderstand me I have mentioned historical facts and I never mean to hurt feelings of anybody.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Natsuu on May 16, 2021, 04:02:25 AM
even Jews all around the world are speaking out against the crimes committed by the Zionists while you want to keep your head in the sand and not read past their propaganda!
it doesn't matter though because the reality won't change.
The solution will be achieved atleast at the end of this world because that is the only way though since the clash is going for almost a century now and serious clash for over 60-70 years.



There's too many sides to the story of how it started, and who is in the lesser evil spot. Nevertheless, I will disregard it and focus on the OP, assuming that it is all truth and nothing but the truth.

It is not by any means good to use civilians as a shield, even at war, they don't let civilians be part of it. It is like some kind of war rule/code.

Using them as a human shield is not acceptable.
What if I say the hamas from the Gaza is actually made of civilians, there is no separate people who called Hamas and they are portrayed as terrorists just because they are fighting for their rights. ::)


Your saying won't matter in the opinion I stated above, cause just like what I've said, I disregarded other sides and focused on what the OP says, though personally, my opinion is not strict to one side, and there are too many sides in this topic.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: franky1 on May 16, 2021, 05:23:14 AM
Do you realize that this is a religious conflict?

Do you realize that without Judaism and Islam, there would be two things less to disagree and fight?

There would be just one country: Israeline (or Paletsrael) with Semitic people living there.  

There would be no Zionists or Islamists.

ok Mr. Forgot logic

do you realise the western developed countries conflict is based on skin colour
yes some athiests get enegised over team sport loyalism(sport fans rivalry)
so your solution is to... have no people with skin..have no sports
goodluck with that(facepalm)

whats next.. in capitalist consumerism belief cities.. ban all sales of all goods?

in a religious area. taking the religion away is not the solution
(im a strong athiest . but i think logically and practically)
the under lying issue is the current segregation is the cause of conflict.

so the real solution is remove the segregation.
enforcing more segregation isnt going to stop 2 religions from fighting.. its actually going to cause 2 religions then also turning on non-religious folk too. meaning your idea will cause more conflict

ever see a soccer yob(violent-aggressive fans). they mostly just fight the opposing team fanbase. they dont bother people that enjoy non-soccer related hobbies.. but if in your world they ban soccer. and you will see absolutely stupid acts of riots and protests aimed at any-everyone that doesnt like soccer

again solution should be. let the soccer fans of different teams unite in peace where they can happily share a stadium and celebrate their fanbase. .. not ban soccer fans from going to enjoy their favourite sport


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: JohnBitCo on May 16, 2021, 06:43:51 AM
And what's the stance of United nation on it  ???

https://i.imgur.com/GCagtJw.jpg


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: BitcoinHodler on May 16, 2021, 09:11:03 AM
even Jews all around the world are speaking out against the crimes committed by the Zionists while you want to keep your head in the sand and not read past their propaganda!
it doesn't matter though because the reality won't change.
The solution will be achieved atleast at the end of this world because that is the only way though since the clash is going for almost a century now and serious clash for over 60-70 years.
it won't take that long. the conflict is going to end soon, my guess is in 10 years. but i don't know which one of the following scenarios is going to put an end to it.

first scenario is what i'm hoping for because it is the peaceful one and will have the least number of casualties.
it starts by powers such as US stopping their support of Israel terrorism.
then the world powers must sit both sides down at gunpoint and set the clear borders which they already know what they are too, they also mentioned them again during this conflict. and push Israel out of those regions.
Israel must also be disarmed by IAEA, be forced to sign NPT and be under serious inspections by IAEA agents with their snap inspections.
then regional powers must stand watch and each time either side crosses those borders they have to intervene with their military instead of just standing on the sides and condemn one side impotently. for example if Israel did another air invasion all their air fields must be bombed by US and Russia. not just invading Palestine, they are running their terrorist operations in a lot of countries in Middle East, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq,...
same with Palestine. if they went over those defined borders they must also be punished the same way.
the problem is that they come up with such "deals" while ignoring Palestinians then Israel also ignores that "deal" too keeps on invading and expanding, continuing the genocide!
this scenario has not happened yet because the word powers (US, Russia, China) love the chaos in Middle East since it benefits them greatly.

second scenario is going to be the worst.
the conflict keeps on growing and as the power of the resistance grows (as it has been over the past 7 decades each time they clash) eventually the small land that Israel has occupied so far will be taken back when they are attacked on all sides from all those countries they keep hitting every week by the same angry people their families they have been murdering.
the problem with this scenario is that it will have a lot of victims on both sides with Israel being wiped out and would only end up existing in history books. and the worst part is going to be Palestinians who would then be then in control of a possibly large nuclear arsenal who would also be angry about all those countries who have been supporting the genocide.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 16, 2021, 12:02:39 PM
@Quickseller You are stupid, you have to look for valid and balanced information.

If you know the history of Israel and Palestine. The Israelis are just illegal immigrants who steal the homeland of Palestine. In fact, Israel has no homeland.

https://i.imgur.com/poJ2Kn3.jpg

White: Yahudi (Israel)   RED: Palestine


Who are the terrorists and who are attacking civilians?

These are the partial Palestinian victims:

https://i.imgur.com/iwvlrZs.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/48wDnfc.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/U987M19.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/zqQhv8B.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/xY17qAl.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/ZG7eKBZ.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/js6B9Uk.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/2dRsvg6.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/CuYyhak.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/tCNZpFh.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/NO1IkEM.jpg



ISRAEL THE REAL TERRORIST


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Anwar151 on May 17, 2021, 03:06:50 AM
There is no reason for Israel is not use the maximum available force at their disposal. The strength of Israel's military is no secret. Hamas is the aggressor, and launched rocket attacks against Israel unprovoked.
So in your opinion, it's all not without unprovoked?

Quote
14 May 2021 - 20:24 GMT
Activist: Netanyahu is calling the right wing to use their power

Responding to critique from Israelis that Hamas went too far and Israel had to respond, Issa Amro, a Palestinian activist based in Hebron, in the occupied West Bank told Al Jazeera that it wasn’t Hamas who planned to displace families from Sheikh Jarrah.

“Hamas didn’t attack Al Aqsa Mosque. They didn’t attack the worshippers. Thousands were injured inside the mosque,” Amro said.

“Israeli police use the massive, violent power against the Palestinian worshippers who were worshipping inside the walls.

“Netanyahu himself is really calling the right wing … the extremist elements … and he’s saying that they should use power against the Palestinians and telling the police do whatever you want,” Amro said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/14/israels-bombardment-of-gaza-continues-live

Quote
Hamas didn’t start the bouts of violence that led to this week’s fighting: the Palestinian protests against the Sheikh Jarrah evictions and against police restrictions at Jerusalem’s Damascus Gate, or the attacks on Jews in Jerusalem throughout Ramadan dubbed by Israelis the “TikTok intifada.”

But it has egged on the chaos at every turn, issuing pronouncements in support of more clashes and sending organizers to inflame the protests into violent confrontations.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-rocket-war-for-al-aqsa-hamas-has-already-won-the-palestinian-leadership/


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Xinarae* on May 17, 2021, 04:25:03 AM
The minor clashes between palestinians and hardline jews and israeli police in jerusalem over the past few weeks turned into a dangerous fight on. Armed palestinian groups fired rockets at israel from the gaza Strip after more than 300 Palestinians were wounded by Israeli police batons, tear gas and rubber bullets as they entered the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound. Meanwhile there are clashes between Jews and israeli arabs inside israel defense minister beni gantz has ordered the deployment of a large number of security forces to quell the unrest in the country the country's police have blamed israeli arabs for the unrest. Police have been charged with aiding and abetting a jewish youth group raiding israeli arab homes.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: inanilujimi on May 17, 2021, 05:31:43 AM
I saw on social media that the trigger for the Hamas attack was initially Israeli soldiers who had attacked civilians at the Aqso mosque doing their prayers and killed many people and wounds, while the attacks launched by Hamas were a form of resistance to what Israel


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 17, 2021, 06:31:52 AM
Israel is only trying to cover up the facts on the ground what happened. The more Israel tries to distort the facts, the more visible the crimes become.

We only need to be human to see Israel's wickedness.



Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 17, 2021, 10:50:18 AM
I would rather side with Israel here. I don't want to give history lessons to anyone, but I have heard about the role played by the Chief Mufti of Palestine (Haj Amin al-Husseini) in the holocaust. Half of jewish population got wiped out in the holocaust and most of what remained were expelled by the Arab nations after the end of WW2. Now where do you want these people to go? Israel is the only Jewish country in the world. Arabs have at least two dozen countries to reside. There is no point in saying that Jews should share Israel with Arabs, when Arabs themselves refused to share their land with the Jews.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 17, 2021, 11:16:19 AM
I assume that you have good historical knowledge.

Now I ask you:
1. who first campaigned for the murder and expulsion of Jews in Europe.

2. who helped the Jews in the 6 day war

3. Why didn't Europe and other countries give land to the Jews?

Jews were given a place in Palestinian land on the basis of the British treaty which later became the state, namely Israel and then Israel wants to control all the land of Palestine.

Open your eyes and heard what said your heart.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Anwar151 on May 17, 2021, 12:34:38 PM
I saw on social media that the trigger for the Hamas attack was initially Israeli soldiers who had attacked civilians at the Aqso mosque doing their prayers and killed many people and wounds, while the attacks launched by Hamas were a form of resistance to what Israel
Monday (10/5) Zionist Israel threw grenades into the Al-Aqsa Mosque

https://i.imgur.com/MDA0uCC.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phpIYnjOnZQ


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: UmerIdrees on May 17, 2021, 05:01:43 PM

Media only showing one side of the picture.

https://i.imgur.com/rFnQLXZ.jpg


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 17, 2021, 06:20:25 PM
Let the memes Speak

https://i.imgur.com/t1fYKxM.jpg


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: blackened515 on May 17, 2021, 10:04:14 PM
After watching the Video, is really painful how people are losing their lives. With it present condition, it seems the crises won't end anytime sooner. They are firing missiles into each others territory, although Hamas was the first to send rockets to Israel, they sent about 120 rockets into Israel. About two days ago, Israel bombs Hama's top chief's home. I pray the fight ends sooner.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: jrrsparkles on May 18, 2021, 04:27:54 AM
even Jews all around the world are speaking out against the crimes committed by the Zionists while you want to keep your head in the sand and not read past their propaganda!
it doesn't matter though because the reality won't change.
The solution will be achieved atleast at the end of this world because that is the only way though since the clash is going for almost a century now and serious clash for over 60-70 years.
it won't take that long. the conflict is going to end soon, my guess is in 10 years. but i don't know which one of the following scenarios is going to put an end to it.

first scenario is what i'm hoping for because it is the peaceful one and will have the least number of casualties.
it starts by powers such as US stopping their support of Israel terrorism.
then the world powers must sit both sides down at gunpoint and set the clear borders which they already know what they are too, they also mentioned them again during this conflict. and push Israel out of those regions.
Israel must also be disarmed by IAEA, be forced to sign NPT and be under serious inspections by IAEA agents with their snap inspections.
then regional powers must stand watch and each time either side crosses those borders they have to intervene with their military instead of just standing on the sides and condemn one side impotently. for example if Israel did another air invasion all their air fields must be bombed by US and Russia. not just invading Palestine, they are running their terrorist operations in a lot of countries in Middle East, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq,...
same with Palestine. if they went over those defined borders they must also be punished the same way.
the problem is that they come up with such "deals" while ignoring Palestinians then Israel also ignores that "deal" too keeps on invading and expanding, continuing the genocide!
this scenario has not happened yet because the word powers (US, Russia, China) love the chaos in Middle East since it benefits them greatly.

second scenario is going to be the worst.
the conflict keeps on growing and as the power of the resistance grows (as it has been over the past 7 decades each time they clash) eventually the small land that Israel has occupied so far will be taken back when they are attacked on all sides from all those countries they keep hitting every week by the same angry people their families they have been murdering.
the problem with this scenario is that it will have a lot of victims on both sides with Israel being wiped out and would only end up existing in history books. and the worst part is going to be Palestinians who would then be then in control of a possibly large nuclear arsenal who would also be angry about all those countries who have been supporting the genocide.
Super powers will not going to solve any of these because they are in the race to reach the most powerful so US and China don't care about how many people die, probably China will try to help Palestine since Israel already got the help from US but Palestines are muslims so China may not show them any mercy because they are already treated like slaves in their own nations in the name of camps.

Already 7 decades so I don't think it will end in the next 10 years, but I also heard that Arab countries from Middle East is building a committee to take a look into this issue but do they have such powers other than money so solve this?


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 18, 2021, 05:32:43 AM
although Hamas was the first to send rockets to Israel, they sent about 120 rockets into Israel. About two days ago, Israel bombs Hama's top chief's home. I pray the fight ends sooner.

The first is when Muslims praying at Al-Aqsa (AL-Quds) were attacked by Israeli police, Maybe you don't know how holy the Al-Aqsa mosque is for Muslims around the world not only for Palestinians. Al-Quds is the property of the Palestinians and Israel has no right to prohibit its inhabitants from worshiping in it.

Israel is like a thief breaking into other people's homes and hitting homeowners.

is such an act appropriate?


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: jrrsparkles on May 18, 2021, 07:44:56 AM
although Hamas was the first to send rockets to Israel, they sent about 120 rockets into Israel. About two days ago, Israel bombs Hama's top chief's home. I pray the fight ends sooner.

The first is when Muslims praying at Al-Aqsa (AL-Quds) were attacked by Israeli police, Maybe you don't know how holy the Al-Aqsa mosque is for Muslims around the world not only for Palestinians. Al-Quds is the property of the Palestinians and Israel has no right to prohibit its inhabitants from worshiping in it.

Israel is like a thief breaking into other people's homes and hitting homeowners.

is such an act appropriate?
Israel has been doing this for almost a century now, they want to destroy the Palestine completely and people on both sides are trying to fight each others. I saw that the Mosque you are talking about has same importance level as Mecca, but still Arab countries and Muslims all over the world didn't try to show their opposition against such thing other than social media.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 18, 2021, 08:08:25 AM
Yes.

Say if the real action is to send troops from another country to fight with Israel then if you know about the foreign relations procedure then it is a very difficult procedure to send troops to another country. So we who are concerned about the current condition can only speak out on social media


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 18, 2021, 12:54:34 PM

The world of Terrorism has been massively misused after 9/11 and Millions of innocent people were murdered to eradicate terrorism from the world map but what USA and its Allies didn't realise that their Military actions have created more terrorist because they failed to understand root cause of terrorism. Creation of Illegitimate State of Israel back in 1947 and depriving Palestinian from their Homeland is one of the Major reason of Terrorism in the Meddle east.


https://www.mckendree.edu/academics/scholars/butler-issue-25.pdf


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 18, 2021, 01:12:04 PM
I understand what you're trying to say but right now I want to focus on unraveling what is really happening with Palestine. Many people are still unaware of Israel's brutality.

that's why I always give pictures, let pictures touch their hearts.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Renampun on May 18, 2021, 05:42:28 PM
I understand what you're trying to say but right now I want to focus on unraveling what is really happening with Palestine. Many people are still unaware of Israel's brutality.

that's why I always give pictures, let pictures touch their hearts.

The problems of Israel and Palestine existed even before the average of all of us here were born...

all condemn the war but don't just look at it from one side, let's pray together that China can become a fair mediator https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3133734/china-offers-host-israeli-palestinian-peace-talks


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 18, 2021, 06:54:36 PM
Let's just say that I saw one side of the Palestinian victims.

Now give me a pic of the other side, especially the Israeli Civil Victims.

After that, let us conclude who are the war criminals and who play the role of playing victims.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Gyfts on May 18, 2021, 07:13:05 PM
Let the memes Speak
...

No, not just rocks. Actual missiles. Here's proof, not just a meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZucE9bEAY

Turns out, when you launch missiles into a sovereign country occupying land they're entitled to, they will retaliate.

I never understood the argument -- In the event of a land dispute, the response is not diplomacy, but rather is to launch rockets against the nation through an informal war? Ha, good one!


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Anwar151 on May 18, 2021, 11:37:14 PM
No, not just rocks. Actual missiles. Here's proof, not just a meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZucE9bEAY

Turns out, when you launch missiles into a sovereign country occupying land they're entitled to, they will retaliate.

I never understood the argument -- In the event of a land dispute, the response is not diplomacy, but rather is to launch rockets against the nation through an informal war? Ha, good one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phpIYnjOnZQ

In the wake of images of Israeli police firing tear gas into the mosque, Hamas issued an ultimatum: If Israel didn’t take certain steps by 6 p.m. that evening — the most important being the withdrawal of Israeli police from the Temple Mount — it would face Hamas’s retribution.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Gyfts on May 19, 2021, 08:15:30 PM
No, not just rocks. Actual missiles. Here's proof, not just a meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZucE9bEAY

Turns out, when you launch missiles into a sovereign country occupying land they're entitled to, they will retaliate.

I never understood the argument -- In the event of a land dispute, the response is not diplomacy, but rather is to launch rockets against the nation through an informal war? Ha, good one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phpIYnjOnZQ

In the wake of images of Israeli police firing tear gas into the mosque, Hamas issued an ultimatum: If Israel didn’t take certain steps by 6 p.m. that evening — the most important being the withdrawal of Israeli police from the Temple Mount — it would face Hamas’s retribution.

And what was the context of them firing tear gas? Sure looks like a riot to me. And tear gas won't kill you.

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1394905094651621378

The IDF will give Palestinian civilians the opportunity to leave buildings before they're bombed. If only Hamas would let Israeli's know when they're about to lob hundreds of missiles into Israel. The Palestinians are the victims in this too, you know. Turns out when you elect terrorists into power, the outcome is pretty predictable.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Quickseller on May 19, 2021, 10:11:14 PM
Israel has been doing this for almost a century now, they want to destroy the Palestine completely
That is ridiculous. The Israeli military calls the citizens being used as human shields ahead of time when they are about to bomb terror targets. Take a look at this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHhF7e4Rtj0) that is a phone call the IDF made to a civilian in Gaza.



Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 20, 2021, 01:40:22 AM
And what was the context of them firing tear gas? Sure looks like a riot to me. And tear gas won't kill you.
Shut up ... you don't know how holy the mosque is because inside the mosque is not allowed to wear shoes, they acted initially because the Israhell police tried to stop us from praying, Muslims everywhere will act if anyone does these things. it happened at the Al-Aqsa Mosque. Mosques(Al-Aqsa) don't only belong to Palestine but also belong to all Muslims so that they can anger Muslims around the world.

Also the area of ​​Al-Quds (Al-Aqsa) belongs to Palestine. Is it appropriate for a guest to riot at someone else's house and ban home owners?

The IDF will give Palestinian civilians the opportunity to leave buildings before they're bombed.
That is only their excuse, dozens of times that reason has not been proven as an example of blasting a building Al Jaala and the Associated Press, and the Qatari TV broadcaster Al Jazeera. Hamas or the Israhell did not release anyone it targeted, even the weapons they considered to be in storage were never confirmed.

If only Hamas would let Israeli's know when they're about to lob hundreds of missiles into Israel.
You look smart you are actually stupid.

Whenever Hamas wants to carry out attacks, they always tell Israel not to do things that harm or even kill Palestinian civilians beforehand.

Turns out when you elect terrorists into power, the outcome is pretty predictable.
who is terrorists, fucking Idiot:

https://i.imgur.com/sTLfsRk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GAjXi5i.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wxHscMR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6VFxRqr.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xUWRgiE.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zbXiZ0j.jpg

The Israeli military calls the citizens being used as human shields ahead of time when they are about to bomb terror targets.
https://i.imgur.com/pgXaddv.jpg


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Anwar151 on May 20, 2021, 02:16:19 AM
No, not just rocks. Actual missiles. Here's proof, not just a meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZucE9bEAY

Turns out, when you launch missiles into a sovereign country occupying land they're entitled to, they will retaliate.

I never understood the argument -- In the event of a land dispute, the response is not diplomacy, but rather is to launch rockets against the nation through an informal war? Ha, good one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phpIYnjOnZQ

In the wake of images of Israeli police firing tear gas into the mosque, Hamas issued an ultimatum: If Israel didn’t take certain steps by 6 p.m. that evening — the most important being the withdrawal of Israeli police from the Temple Mount — it would face Hamas’s retribution.

And what was the context of them firing tear gas? Sure looks like a riot to me. And tear gas won't kill you.

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1394905094651621378

The IDF will give Palestinian civilians the opportunity to leave buildings before they're bombed. If only Hamas would let Israeli's know when they're about to lob hundreds of missiles into Israel. The Palestinians are the victims in this too, you know. Turns out when you elect terrorists into power, the outcome is pretty predictable.
Did you read the quote I put at the end?
I intentionally quote it from the pro Israeli media.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Gyfts on May 20, 2021, 04:00:32 AM
No, not just rocks. Actual missiles. Here's proof, not just a meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zZucE9bEAY

Turns out, when you launch missiles into a sovereign country occupying land they're entitled to, they will retaliate.

I never understood the argument -- In the event of a land dispute, the response is not diplomacy, but rather is to launch rockets against the nation through an informal war? Ha, good one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phpIYnjOnZQ

In the wake of images of Israeli police firing tear gas into the mosque, Hamas issued an ultimatum: If Israel didn’t take certain steps by 6 p.m. that evening — the most important being the withdrawal of Israeli police from the Temple Mount — it would face Hamas’s retribution.

And what was the context of them firing tear gas? Sure looks like a riot to me. And tear gas won't kill you.

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1394905094651621378

The IDF will give Palestinian civilians the opportunity to leave buildings before they're bombed. If only Hamas would let Israeli's know when they're about to lob hundreds of missiles into Israel. The Palestinians are the victims in this too, you know. Turns out when you elect terrorists into power, the outcome is pretty predictable.
Did you read the quote I put at the end?
I intentionally quote it from the pro Israeli media.

I know, I saw it was from the Israeli times. Who cares? The BBC is a public entity, I'm sure I could find plenty of articles that are critical of its own UK governance, sometimes fair, sometimes unfair. The NPR sure did love to rip on Trump whenever they got a chance, and they are publicly funded. That quote just tells me that tear gas used used on some sort of gathering. It doesn't say if it was a riot or not. Do you even know that it was?


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 20, 2021, 07:42:51 AM
Can't you think systematically?

1. It is a holy place for Muslims

2. The place belongs to Palestine, not IsraHell

3. The rioting occurred when Israeli mobs prevented Palestinians from entering the mosque. what is Israel's right? blocking the owner from entering his own house.

4. The Israhell gang also entered the mosque fully armed. For a Muslim, what IsraHell does is something that insults the mosque and Muslims.

5. That's where Hamas warned Israhell to stop doing things like that.

Simple logic like this:
What would you do if someone else forcibly broke into your house and forbade you to enter your own house. and it happened over and over again. Do homeowners tolerate or oppose it?


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Anwar151 on May 20, 2021, 02:22:30 PM
I know, I saw it was from the Israeli times. Who cares? The BBC is a public entity, I'm sure I could find plenty of articles that are critical of its own UK governance, sometimes fair, sometimes unfair. The NPR sure did love to rip on Trump whenever they got a chance, and they are publicly funded. That quote just tells me that tear gas used used on some sort of gathering. It doesn't say if it was a riot or not. Do you even know that it was?
In your opinion, the information I quote from the media is true or not?

It appears that terrorist (https://www.state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations/) propiganda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5336871.msg57032564#msg57032564) is being posted in various P&S threads. Hamas is not only designated as a terrorist organization, but is also subject to OFAC sanctions (https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-sanctions/sanctions-programs-and-country-information/counter-terrorism-sanctions/palestinian-authority).

The propaganda is not limited to one thread. There is another thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5337219.0) advocating for the mass murder of Jews whose replies contain pro-terrorism propaganda.
Why don't you just reply directly in this thread?


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: jrrsparkles on May 20, 2021, 03:44:01 PM
Yes.

Say if the real action is to send troops from another country to fight with Israel then if you know about the foreign relations procedure then it is a very difficult procedure to send troops to another country. So we who are concerned about the current condition can only speak out on social media
USA is one of the country who is helping the Israel financially since they were born just because of the rivarly against USSR but now everything changed, do they still have to support terrorism against a country which doesn't have military force aided by the super power of this world?

People from USA even supported Israel for decades but now we can see the hate ahainst them even from the ruling government there is some kind f support speech to these Palestine.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 20, 2021, 04:01:05 PM
I don't know about the structure of government in America. Let the more competent Americans answer it.

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People from USA even supported Israel for decades but now we can see the hate ahainst them even from the ruling government there is some kind f support speech to these Palestine.
Yes, I saw some residents demonstrate to speak out for humanity include Canada, France, German.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 21, 2021, 04:38:43 PM
I don't know about the structure of government in America. Let the more competent Americans answer it.

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People from USA even supported Israel for decades but now we can see the hate ahainst them even from the ruling government there is some kind f support speech to these Palestine.
Yes, I saw some residents demonstrate to speak out for humanity include Canada, France, German.

Finally the International community realised their responsibility and forced Israeli to stop killing innocent people and announce ceasefire. The conscious of world community is still alive and they have shown it by make protest world wide bin favour of Palestinians and put pressure on major world powers to use their influence to stop this madness.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 21, 2021, 05:25:19 PM
IsraHell cannot be trusted. after 12 hours of truce, Israel began to provoke war again.

IsraHell soldiers were seen on the roof of the Al Qibli Mosque and terrorizing Palestinians.

https://i.imgur.com/42RUrbr.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ploJwuz.jpg

at Bethlehem

https://i.imgur.com/CpUVvkz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hNyOlFX.jpg


at Al-Aqsa Mosque

https://i.imgur.com/iJIgGMN.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UHbjgm1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SZ1mfDW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/g4pRkkb.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/EfZQZ0q.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dDYblrN.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IVQg9U2.jpg

a family was shot in Umm Al Fahm

https://i.imgur.com/eXzK8uZ.jpg



Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Gyfts on May 21, 2021, 06:43:02 PM
In your opinion, the information I quote from the media is true or not?

No clue, you tell me? Is it true or not? It could have been a riot, sure, then they use tear gas. Or, it could have been pointless violence. It's a war, no one's hands are clean. But, if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. This includes starting a war by launching hundreds of rockets into Israel. If you really believe it's Palestinian land that the Israeli's stole, I'd love to know how terrorism is the right answer.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 21, 2021, 07:11:36 PM
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This includes starting a war by launching hundreds of rockets into Israel.
What about IsraHell who bombed Civil and Media buildings?

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If you really believe it's Palestinian land that the Israeli's stole, I'd love to know how terrorism is the right answer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5336871.msg57048416#msg57048416

for you:
if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 21, 2021, 09:19:05 PM
In your opinion, the information I quote from the media is true or not?

No clue, you tell me? Is it true or not? It could have been a riot, sure, then they use tear gas. Or, it could have been pointless violence. It's a war, no one's hands are clean. But, if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. This includes starting a war by launching hundreds of rockets into Israel. If you really believe it's Palestinian land that the Israeli's stole, I'd love to know how terrorism is the right answer.

It is true that Terrorism will not help to get back land from Israel that was really stolen it is a historical fact vindicated by UNO Resolutions because killing innocent citizens even for good cause is never justified.. Having said , that what are the other peaceful means to liberate this land, UNO has consistently failed to implement its overwhelmingly passed resolutions. The World community at large should build its pressure on USA and other Major Powers to sit together and find out a solution of this never ending conflict that has caused  Millions of deaths in Middle East.

https://www.e-ir.info/2018/04/19/terrorists-or-freedom-fighters-a-case-study-of-eta/


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Gyfts on May 21, 2021, 10:02:33 PM
In your opinion, the information I quote from the media is true or not?

No clue, you tell me? Is it true or not? It could have been a riot, sure, then they use tear gas. Or, it could have been pointless violence. It's a war, no one's hands are clean. But, if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. This includes starting a war by launching hundreds of rockets into Israel. If you really believe it's Palestinian land that the Israeli's stole, I'd love to know how terrorism is the right answer.

It is true that Terrorism will not help to get back land from Israel that was really stolen it is a historical fact vindicated by UNO Resolutions because killing innocent citizens even for good cause is never justified.. Having said , that what are the other peaceful means to liberate this land, UNO has consistently failed to implement its overwhelmingly passed resolutions. The World community at large should build its pressure on USA and other Major Powers to sit together and find out a solution of this never ending conflict that has caused  Millions of deaths in Middle East.

https://www.e-ir.info/2018/04/19/terrorists-or-freedom-fighters-a-case-study-of-eta/

Israel gave up the Gaza strip back in 2005. It's not like they haven't made any concessions. That seemed a whole lot more peaceful than what we see today, no? I can't imagine why you'd think that lobbing a bunch of rockers towards Israeli cities would be better diplomacy. I don't have an answer for the alternative, but let's just say SURELY there must be a better way than terrorism.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: jrrsparkles on May 22, 2021, 02:34:39 AM
In your opinion, the information I quote from the media is true or not?

No clue, you tell me? Is it true or not? It could have been a riot, sure, then they use tear gas. Or, it could have been pointless violence. It's a war, no one's hands are clean. But, if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. This includes starting a war by launching hundreds of rockets into Israel. If you really believe it's Palestinian land that the Israeli's stole, I'd love to know how terrorism is the right answer.
Jews was just refugees and the only country which gave the place is Palestine but later Israel people wanted a separate country for them which is also okay but now they claim that the whole land belongs to the Israel who are actually the refugees which means they are doing genocide which is clearly visible then how can you expect the people who are going all these hell to stand for their rights?

People who stand against them are terrorists that is what the media says to this world.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: cabron on May 22, 2021, 02:45:59 AM
In your opinion, the information I quote from the media is true or not?

No clue, you tell me? Is it true or not? It could have been a riot, sure, then they use tear gas. Or, it could have been pointless violence. It's a war, no one's hands are clean. But, if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. This includes starting a war by launching hundreds of rockets into Israel. If you really believe it's Palestinian land that the Israeli's stole, I'd love to know how terrorism is the right answer.
Jews was just refugees and the only country which gave the place is Palestine but later Israel people wanted a separate country for them which is also okay but now they claim that the whole land belongs to the Israel who are actually the refugees which means they are doing genocide which is clearly visible then how can you expect the people who are going all these hell to stand for their rights?

People who stand against them are terrorists that is what the media says to this world.

That's the story from the beginning. There was never a place for Jews but the British gave them a place after they colonize the region and then Palestine just accept things the way they were. There was never an Isreal but yep they the guts to actually push away the people who had been there who owns the land for millions of years. The Palentine existed long before Jesus came. Quite a wild world when you are the owner and they are pushed to the west bank while they consider the place holy.



Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: jrrsparkles on May 22, 2021, 03:10:01 AM
In your opinion, the information I quote from the media is true or not?

No clue, you tell me? Is it true or not? It could have been a riot, sure, then they use tear gas. Or, it could have been pointless violence. It's a war, no one's hands are clean. But, if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. This includes starting a war by launching hundreds of rockets into Israel. If you really believe it's Palestinian land that the Israeli's stole, I'd love to know how terrorism is the right answer.
Jews was just refugees and the only country which gave the place is Palestine but later Israel people wanted a separate country for them which is also okay but now they claim that the whole land belongs to the Israel who are actually the refugees which means they are doing genocide which is clearly visible then how can you expect the people who are going all these hell to stand for their rights?

People who stand against them are terrorists that is what the media says to this world.

That's the story from the beginning. There was never a place for Jews but the British gave them a place after they colonize the region and then Palestine just accept things the way they were. There was never an Isreal but yep they the guts to actually push away the people who had been there who owns the land for millions of years. The Palentine existed long before Jesus came. Quite a wild world when you are the owner and they are pushed to the west bank while they consider the place holy.


That is the power of government, they will help any country if it benefits them no matter they are doing right or wrong.

I hope US will change their behaviour atleast now and still there is no help for the Palestinians in the war I guess.


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Sayeds56 on May 22, 2021, 03:24:04 AM
In your opinion, the information I quote from the media is true or not?

No clue, you tell me? Is it true or not? It could have been a riot, sure, then they use tear gas. Or, it could have been pointless violence. It's a war, no one's hands are clean. But, if you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. This includes starting a war by launching hundreds of rockets into Israel. If you really believe it's Palestinian land that the Israeli's stole, I'd love to know how terrorism is the right answer.

It is true that Terrorism will not help to get back land from Israel that was really stolen it is a historical fact vindicated by UNO Resolutions because killing innocent citizens even for good cause is never justified.. Having said , that what are the other peaceful means to liberate this land, UNO has consistently failed to implement its overwhelmingly passed resolutions. The World community at large should build its pressure on USA and other Major Powers to sit together and find out a solution of this never ending conflict that has caused  Millions of deaths in Middle East.

https://www.e-ir.info/2018/04/19/terrorists-or-freedom-fighters-a-case-study-of-eta/

Israel gave up the Gaza strip back in 2005. It's not like they haven't made any concessions. That seemed a whole lot more peaceful than what we see today, no? I can't imagine why you'd think that lobbing a bunch of rockers towards Israeli cities would be better diplomacy. I don't have an answer for the alternative, but let's just say SURELY there must be a better way than terrorism.

True. Israel made a good gesture back in 2005 when it gave Gaza Strip to Palestinians but it failed to make a permanent peace Between Israelis and Palestinians because the core issue is who controls city of Jerusalem.  Appreciate your thoughts against violence. I also believe that violence breeds  more violence and it doesn't solve any problem. Israelis have equal right to live and  practice their religions as Muslims do but why Jerusalem can not be declared as International city, controlled by UNO security forces and  people from all religions visit there without any fear. You may  disagree but I think this kind of peace initiatives can lead to Permanent peace.

https://themoderatevoice.com/jerusalem-international-city/



Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Ljunior on May 22, 2021, 04:00:37 AM
https://i.imgur.com/8RlTgn1.jpg

Updated map

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1395824635191734274

https://i.imgur.com/oJYYHrz.png


Title: Re: Hamas attacks Israel citizens, Israel attacks Hamas terror targets
Post by: Natsuu on May 22, 2021, 06:39:48 PM
https://i.imgur.com/8RlTgn1.jpg

Updated map

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1395824635191734274

https://i.imgur.com/oJYYHrz.png

I've seen thses photo's circulating lately and I think it is historically proven, so it is real description of how the Palestine's been taken over by israelis.

Trumptards will hate you for that last image