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Title: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Juniis on May 13, 2021, 02:14:43 PM
The people of Israel are evil.  This is known. We have all seen what happened with the Republicans in control.  Now it is our turn.  Who knows what these evil people have up their sleeve next. 
So I say finish them off now!


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: cabron on May 15, 2021, 01:12:28 AM
Don't generalize them all. While it's true that they are killing Muslims in Gaza as the media are saying, there are good people of Israel.

Palestine is under the control of Israel but the war can go on and on between them because they have a different religions. Both of them can really agree killing is bad but when governments are involved, it's a matter of who is in charge and the powerful one with military weapons like Israel will kill.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Natsuu on May 15, 2021, 01:59:19 AM
This is what the OP wants "ALL OF US, TAKE OUR WEAPONS, FLY TO ISRAEL AND EXTERMINATE THEM"  ???


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: tvbcof on May 15, 2021, 03:11:53 AM

Most Jews do not like to admit it but our god is Lucifer…”  -- Harold Wallace Rosenthal (https://thetruthisfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/06/27/jews-worship-and-adore-satan/)

The quote/assertion has some nuance as do most things of course.  I only skimmed the article so far but I'll go back and re-read it later when I have some time.



Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on May 15, 2021, 04:34:05 AM
Hey OP, you are confused. It is the terrorist Hamas that is targeting civilians from residential areas. Israel is merely defending itself.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Fortify on May 15, 2021, 06:53:41 PM
The people of Israel are evil.  This is known. We have all seen what happened with the Republicans in control.  Now it is our turn.  Who knows what these evil people have up their sleeve next. 
So I say finish them off now!

That is such a dumb statement. Religion and politics, as is so often the case, is the real problem going on here. First off Benjamin Netanyahu is on trial for corruption right now and nothing rallies people around their leader more than being at war - Israel does need to figure out how to defend itself without the military being used as a convenient tool for political distraction. This latest charade was purposely targeted at the end of Ramadan to cause maximum disruption and it is easy to see why when the Israeli Prime Minister was about to face a jury who could send him to jail in days. However I don't think that every Israeli is responsible to the actions of their leader, just as Palestinians often will not support what Hamas and Fatah do in their name. This escalated unnecessarily because of some petty disagreements surrounding "sacred places". Each side has done wrong, we can only hope innocent deaths and unnecessary destruction are avoided by military leaders.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: BADecker on May 16, 2021, 01:28:12 AM
@OP.

But be careful. Israel has been evil for thousands of years... just like other nations. Yet Israel is the ONE nation that God promised special blessings to in the Bible.

Think about this. Israel was destroyed for their wickedness in 70AD. But they came back strong, as their own nation, still believing in God, in 1948. How many other nations can boast this kind of coming back after about 1900 years? Sure, it might have been nations of the world that brought them back for political reasons. But they are back. God controls all the nations.

So, when you speak against Israel, do it from a standpoint of having faith in God yourself, and asking Him to straighten Israel up as He has been doing for thousands of years... so that, as St. Paul says in the New Testament, "... that all Israel may come in."

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Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: semobo on May 16, 2021, 03:08:20 AM
Israel conducting the Genocide over Palestine for very long and the people of Palestine doesn't even have any government and army trying to defend them who are called terrorists by the media. Well the people in the power is executing these things via the people of Israel in the name of patriotism and religion, so wh are doing this should be killed not everyone from Israel.



Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: BADecker on May 16, 2021, 05:19:57 AM
Whatever Israel is or does, remember two things:
1. The name "Israel" comes from God to the people of Israel;
2. Even if they are wicked, many of them are descendants of Ancient Israel. And God made great promises to protect them, such as, Genesis 12:3:
"I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

Protect yourself from them. But be aware that God punishes all who disobey his commands. He will not break His promises to the descendants of Israel, which includes punishing them for their wickedness. Protect yourself, but let God punish them, or at least treat them well after you put down their wickedness.

8)


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: BADecker on May 16, 2021, 05:40:42 AM
W can listen to what many of which are nothing more than paid shills debate this to no effect. Or we can simply destroy people we know to be evil.
The is no real problem with deciding whether or not to do this, only with not going far enough.  They should not be able to put back the pieces of what is left of their country when we are done finishing them off.
That is all folks.

God doesn't judge paid shills in a bad way. But He just might judge people who tear down His good name Israel.

Your life is your life. Make sure you do whatever you do correctly. God is extremely merciful, but I wouldn't want to tempt Him to much.

8)


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: tvbcof on May 16, 2021, 05:50:41 AM
Whatever Israel is or does, remember two things:
1. The name "Israel" comes from God to the people of Israel;
2. Even if they are wicked, many of them are descendants of Ancient Israel. And God made great promises to protect them, such as, Genesis 12:3:
"I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

Protect yourself from them. But be aware that God punishes all who disobey his commands. He will not break His promises to the descendants of Israel, which includes punishing them for their wickedness. Protect yourself, but let God punish them, or at least treat them well after you put down their wickedness.


'They' wrote much of your bible, and re-interpreted/re-wrote/re-published it numerous times.  It's a big reason for getting control of as many publishers as possible irrespective of the cost.  What the fuck do you think they are going to say?

One thing that 'they' and I are equally in awe of is how easily so many of you so-called 'Christians' are led around by the nose.  They pretty much own Catholicism after 'vatican-II'.  It's mind-blowing.  At least there still our some old-school Christians who are not buying all this very well funded 'Christain-Zionist' crap.



Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: BADecker on May 16, 2021, 05:54:33 AM
Whatever Israel is or does, remember two things:
1. The name "Israel" comes from God to the people of Israel;
2. Even if they are wicked, many of them are descendants of Ancient Israel. And God made great promises to protect them, such as, Genesis 12:3:
"I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

Protect yourself from them. But be aware that God punishes all who disobey his commands. He will not break His promises to the descendants of Israel, which includes punishing them for their wickedness. Protect yourself, but let God punish them, or at least treat them well after you put down their wickedness.


'They' wrote much of your bible, and re-interpreted/re-wrote/re-published it numerous times.  It's a big reason for getting control of as many publishers as possible irrespective of the cost.  What the fuck do you think they are going to say?

One thing that 'they' and I are equally in awe of is how easily so many of you so-called 'Christians' are led around by the nose.  They pretty much own Catholicism after 'vatican-II'.  It's mind-blowing.  At least there still our some old-school Christians who are not buying all this very well funded 'Christain-Zionist' crap.



Isaiah and other parts of the Bible found in the Dead Sea caves, show that there was little difference between as early as 400 BC, and copies of the 1100s that we have today. They were serious about keeping the Word pure for the last 2,000+ years. Why wouldn't they have been serious about it right back to the time of Moses?

While it is true that the Israel leaders might be wrong, many of the people are descendants of Ancient Israel... as probably are many of Lebanon.

8)


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: tvbcof on May 16, 2021, 06:41:44 AM
Whatever Israel is or does, remember two things:
1. The name "Israel" comes from God to the people of Israel;
2. Even if they are wicked, many of them are descendants of Ancient Israel. And God made great promises to protect them, such as, Genesis 12:3:
"I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

Protect yourself from them. But be aware that God punishes all who disobey his commands. He will not break His promises to the descendants of Israel, which includes punishing them for their wickedness. Protect yourself, but let God punish them, or at least treat them well after you put down their wickedness.


'They' wrote much of your bible, and re-interpreted/re-wrote/re-published it numerous times.  It's a big reason for getting control of as many publishers as possible irrespective of the cost.  What the fuck do you think they are going to say?

One thing that 'they' and I are equally in awe of is how easily so many of you so-called 'Christians' are led around by the nose.  They pretty much own Catholicism after 'vatican-II'.  It's mind-blowing.  At least there still our some old-school Christians who are not buying all this very well funded 'Christain-Zionist' crap.



Isaiah and other parts of the Bible found in the Dead Sea caves, show that there was little difference between as early as 400 BC, and copies of the 1100s that we have today. They were serious about keeping the Word pure for the last 2,000+ years. Why wouldn't they have been serious about it right back to the time of Moses?

While it is true that the Israel leaders might be wrong, many of the people are descendants of Ancient Israel... as probably are many of Lebanon.


I don't believe in 'bloodlines' and all that crap.  It makes no sense mathematically and it's the domain of the most dispicable of psychopaths.

Here's the type of people who currently inhabit 'the promised land' in their own words:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/i7ZeQzFpKJUC/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/i7ZeQzFpKJUC/)

Ironically many of them can trace their biological lineage to ancient Khazaria more directly than to the 'levant' or 'Greater Israel', but it's all a bunch of garbage anyway.  The guy who archives this stuff (and comments on it) seems to have had is actual web-site removed from the internet.  At least it seems that way from my seat:  https://www.knowmorenews.org (https://www.knowmorenews.org)



Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: BADecker on May 16, 2021, 08:18:33 PM
Whatever Israel is or does, remember two things:
1. The name "Israel" comes from God to the people of Israel;
2. Even if they are wicked, many of them are descendants of Ancient Israel. And God made great promises to protect them, such as, Genesis 12:3:
"I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

Protect yourself from them. But be aware that God punishes all who disobey his commands. He will not break His promises to the descendants of Israel, which includes punishing them for their wickedness. Protect yourself, but let God punish them, or at least treat them well after you put down their wickedness.


'They' wrote much of your bible, and re-interpreted/re-wrote/re-published it numerous times.  It's a big reason for getting control of as many publishers as possible irrespective of the cost.  What the fuck do you think they are going to say?

One thing that 'they' and I are equally in awe of is how easily so many of you so-called 'Christians' are led around by the nose.  They pretty much own Catholicism after 'vatican-II'.  It's mind-blowing.  At least there still our some old-school Christians who are not buying all this very well funded 'Christain-Zionist' crap.



Isaiah and other parts of the Bible found in the Dead Sea caves, show that there was little difference between as early as 400 BC, and copies of the 1100s that we have today. They were serious about keeping the Word pure for the last 2,000+ years. Why wouldn't they have been serious about it right back to the time of Moses?

While it is true that the Israel leaders might be wrong, many of the people are descendants of Ancient Israel... as probably are many of Lebanon.


I don't believe in 'bloodlines' and all that crap.  It makes no sense mathematically and it's the domain of the most dispicable of psychopaths.

Here's the type of people who currently inhabit 'the promised land' in their own words:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/i7ZeQzFpKJUC/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/i7ZeQzFpKJUC/)

Ironically many of them can trace their biological lineage to ancient Khazaria more directly than to the 'levant' or 'Greater Israel', but it's all a bunch of garbage anyway.  The guy who archives this stuff (and comments on it) seems to have had is actual web-site removed from the internet.  At least it seems that way from my seat:  https://www.knowmorenews.org (https://www.knowmorenews.org)



It isn't the actual bloodlines that count. It's the strictness of following the Word of God. After all, almost anybody was allowed to become part of Ancient Israel, if he followed the rules and laws set down by God through Moses. The bloodline thing was made far stricter than it was meant to be, later, by Israeli leaders, following the Babylonian captivity near 600 BC.

No matter who makes up a bunch of garbage, if they take to themselves the name Israel, associate it with God and the Tanakh (Old Testament), live on part of the land that was given by God to Ancient Israel, and follow the laws of the Torah (the Books of Moses, first 5 of the Tanakh), and especially if they are Jesus and New Testament believers... you have God to watch out for if you aren't careful about how you treat such people. He upholds His Word and His Name.

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Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 17, 2021, 10:44:41 AM
Hey OP, you are confused. It is the terrorist Hamas that is targeting civilians from residential areas. Israel is merely defending itself.
Playing Victims,

Do your IQ to validate news and gather news, then analyze using your IQ and your heart. You have to search for all otherworldly news (arabian news, melayu news, etc). if you don't understand  use google translate.

Scrool these pic, fucking Idiot:

https://i.imgur.com/oPRtfAT.png

2 minutes ago
https://i.imgur.com/u7olsCk.jpg

17 h ago
https://i.imgur.com/3ZRp3dt.jpg

Besides that Israel uses Phosphorus Bombs

https://i.imgur.com/P28gRtd.png

https://i.imgur.com/YT8OYJC.png

https://i.imgur.com/jFgjOk8.png

https://i.imgur.com/lCzmIlb.jpg

If you don't know what is Fosforus. Please use Google, Idiot.

And Israel attacked the Media building to block what really happened.

https://i.imgur.com/AU3N0b6.png

https://rsf.org/en/news/rsf-asks-icc-prosecutor-say-whether-israeli-airstrikes-media-gaza-constitute-war-crimes

https://i.imgur.com/o8Yvrec.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gk2hrX0.jpg

ISRAEL THE REAL TERRORIST
 


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Anwar151 on May 17, 2021, 12:49:50 PM
And Israel attacked the Media building to block what really happened.

https://i.imgur.com/AU3N0b6.png

https://rsf.org/en/news/rsf-asks-icc-prosecutor-say-whether-israeli-airstrikes-media-gaza-constitute-war-crimes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVXzMkSOlsQ


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Mauser on May 17, 2021, 01:37:04 PM
The people of Israel are evil.  This is known. We have all seen what happened with the Republicans in control.  Now it is our turn.  Who knows what these evil people have up their sleeve next. 
So I say finish them off now!

Wow man, that is a lot of hate. Let's not do anything rush here. It is awful what is happening in Israel and Gaza, but hate and violence is not the answer. I am praying for a real solution, a solution with which both countries can live, Palestina and Israel. It's the 21th century, humans should evolve and fly to Mars instead of fighting on Earth.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on May 17, 2021, 05:18:45 PM
Two wrongs have never made a right, it just can't. The line of enemity has already being created but, I'm sure it wouldn't end it. The grievance that would follow would become person, especially to the affected individual families. So, its more about them both (Isreal and Palestine) setting aside there differences and find where they would actually agree with the aid of international bodies.

I can imagine your grief at OP to have finally being giving off what you felt you have endured for far too long but then, its still wrong what is going on in both nations. Reports have it that,

Israeli airstrikes began targeting Hamas offices in Gaza City and militants in Gaza fired rockets at the metropolis of Tel Aviv, the southern city of Ashkelon and Israel’s main airport. (Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/11/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-airstrikes.html).


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 17, 2021, 06:13:25 PM
Israel has just attacked civilian buildings and even clinics.

Al Rimal Clinic 3h ago

https://i.imgur.com/ybQIRzv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yRVKpYk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cNU3Q6s.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lkxBxqI.jpg



Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: $ISLM on May 18, 2021, 07:35:42 AM
Gaza'’s first 3D printer, which manufactured medical devices for years, has been destroyed by an Israeli air raid. 


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Renampun on May 18, 2021, 08:14:03 AM
The people of Israel are evil.  This is known. We have all seen what happened with the Republicans in control.  Now it is our turn.  Who knows what these evil people have up their sleeve next. 
So I say finish them off now!

on what basis do you say all Israelis are evil, only Zionists are evil...

There are also many Israelis who are totally against their government's attack on the Gaza lane because many residents live side by side there. This is not a war between Palestine vs Israel but Hamas vs Zionist.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: tvbcof on May 18, 2021, 01:25:35 PM
The people of Israel are evil.  This is known. We have all seen what happened with the Republicans in control.  Now it is our turn.  Who knows what these evil people have up their sleeve next. 
So I say finish them off now!

on what basis do you say all Israelis are evil, only Zionists are evil...

There are also many Israelis who are totally against their government's attack on the Gaza lane because many residents live side by side there. This is not a war between Palestine vs Israel but Hamas vs Zionist.

The technology (sensors and number crunching) exists now to 'know who is naughty and who is nice'.

The Talmud has some outlier definitions of 'naught and nice' which are not widely shared in the other belief systems in widespread use around the world.  As a 'Jewish state', it's expected that a fair number of Israel's citizens do bind to some of the philosophies and teachings of Judaism.

The 'threat' of what I would call the 'St. Peter technology' must be palpable for a fair number of souls.  Lots of people know that if the technology were turned on them it would not be a good day.  I would not rule out that this 'danger' is a bigger concern than the economic reset which is a mathematical certainty in any debt-backed monetary systems, and that this is one of the big (and almost completely hidden) factors in the so-called 'great reset'.  No matter what, the 'rats' (as we are called) must not be allowed to get a hold of this technology and employ it for civil ends.



Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 18, 2021, 01:35:42 PM
There are also many Israelis who are totally against their government's attack on the Gaza lane because many residents live side by side there. This is not a war between Palestine vs Israel but Hamas vs Zionist.
Logica defect

Ok. I will follow your Logic, give me a reason:

1. Does Netanyahu as PM not represent Israel and Israelis? Where did the Air Aggression Order against Palestine come from?

2. Hamas has a military wing called the Al-Qasam Brigades. And the Hamas Army is the Palestinian people who have passed a very strict selection. not all Palestinians can become the Al-Qasam Brigades.

Give me a plausible reason why this conflict called Hamas and Zionist.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: franky1 on May 18, 2021, 05:24:02 PM
@OP.

But be careful. Israel has been evil for thousands of years... just like other nations. Yet Israel is the ONE nation that God promised special blessings to in the Bible.


when you wake up.. you will realise god did not write the bible..

isreal wrote the original stories to favour themselves
get it yet. if your the author of a  law book. you are going to create laws that favour you. favour your lifestyle and favour the things you want.

call it the "arizona rulez" and yea it will start with pretending that idiots in arizona are really smart because they can have freedoms like pissing in the wind while drinking a beer.. it makes no sense why anyone wants that freedom. obviously you should piss away from the wind. but idiots just want the freedom to pee towards the wind 'coz arizona rulez'

so now idiots like yourself will think that its good and proper to piss in the wind, where getting the backsplash on your denim jeans should be seen as a honour and a show of freedom

maybe your grandkids become totalitarian enough to then want anyone without wet smelly urine jeans to be classed as second rate citizens who do not deserve to live in your state.. all because you are the author of your rulebook

see my point.
you can pretend some divine mystery man imparted this influential law onto you and you then wrote it down in a book. but the reality is you wrote the book of the laws that you want to favour your lifestyle. even if those law are impractical. and full of silly things

..
but one thing is surprising.
suddenly you are ok blaming a religion and god..
i thought you were soo immersed in the bible that you would be kissing ass any act that favours the people in the bible


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Renampun on May 18, 2021, 05:54:54 PM
There are also many Israelis who are totally against their government's attack on the Gaza lane because many residents live side by side there. This is not a war between Palestine vs Israel but Hamas vs Zionist.
Logica defect

Ok. I will follow your Logic, give me a reason:

1. Does Netanyahu as PM not represent Israel and Israelis? Where did the Air Aggression Order against Palestine come from?

2. Hamas has a military wing called the Al-Qasam Brigades. And the Hamas Army is the Palestinian people who have passed a very strict selection. not all Palestinians can become the Al-Qasam Brigades.

Give me a plausible reason why this conflict called Hamas and Zionist.
sorry, I'm not here to argue with you, but we have to think clearly and try to dig by reading history...

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hamas
https://www.history.com/topics/middle-east/zionism

We all certainly hate war, but the wars that occurred in the Middle East were mostly due to the struggle for land. I personally see it from a humanitarian point of view and condemn these two countries for continuing to war until now and not caring about the people in the Gaza lane at all.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 18, 2021, 06:45:48 PM
Ok .. I respect you where you get the resources from your statment.

The common thread is that the conflict occurs because of Israel's Greed.

If you read all the history of Israel vs Palestine from Israel expelled by Europe. Then Britain helped by offering a deal and becoming the State of Israel.

If you have more time to read. So I believe, you can update the above statement (This is not a war between Palestine vs Israel but Hamas vs Zionist).

I do not intimidate you with a variety of sources for you to read, let it be your instincts that seek without coercion.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on May 19, 2021, 11:54:06 AM
Israel has just attacked civilian buildings and even clinics.

Al Rimal Clinic 3h ago


These are buildings with Hamas terrorists and military equipment inside. The attacks were justified. Hamas is using residential areas to make it more difficult for the IDF to neutralize the terrorists without inflicting civilian casualties. The IDF takes many precautions to prevent civilian deaths.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 19, 2021, 01:33:46 PM
You said Al Rimal Clinic is buildings with Hamas terrorists and military equipment inside ?
Fucking Idiot, Until now IsraHell and its media haven't released victims from the Hamas side who have been their targets.

Hamas is using residential areas to make it more difficult for the IDF to neutralize the terrorists without inflicting civilian casualties.
you're so very stupid even more stupid than a pig, take a look at these pic, fucking Idiot
The Al Ja'ala building (this building is for International Media) has the same reason when the Associated Press, and the Qatari TV broadcaster Al Jazeera was bombed and no one from Hamas claimed the death of its members and from IsraHell did not confirm it.

3h ago
https://i.imgur.com/pJrwYUk.jpg

Jabri family in the neighborhood of Al Amal, Khan Yunis and wrecked the roads around it. he's civilians. Fucking Idiot
https://i.imgur.com/5sabSj1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KgXocj8.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Pmm4DTB.jpg

Humanitarian Volunteer Building. Fucking Idiot

4h ago
https://i.imgur.com/qEQzivL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/e7QgEwa.jpg


Isn't this a civilian casualty? Fucking Idiot

Yusof Abu Hussein, journalist and radio announcer Al Aqsa

5h ago
https://i.imgur.com/xvNbOKs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/fvEZvGX.jpg



https://i.imgur.com/NO41yJ1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MZPpKoM.jpg

Open your eyes and heart, Imagine if they are your family even the children of your family. Fucking Idiot

Menna Shrier, 3 years. One in 63 children died. Last night was bombed by IsraHell
https://i.imgur.com/J70Kr8z.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CwIELc2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uSOp6kL.jpg


The IDF takes many precautions to prevent civilian deaths.

https://i.imgur.com/SzhTHOf.jpg

I have more photos and videos about IsraHell's crimes and to silence Israhell's fanboys


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: DireWolfM14 on May 19, 2021, 07:49:48 PM
The people of Israel are evil.

Bullshit!  The people of Israel are no different than any other people anywhere.  Claiming they are all evil does nothing to solve the issues plaguing both sides.  I'll admit I'm biased, because I'm of Palestinian ethnicity...

I've spent time in Israel and the West Bank (never been to Gaza,) and like anywhere on earth 99.9% of the people are peace-loving normal people.  And like any other conflict, the vociferous few make up the bulk of what we think we know about the conflict.


Israel has just attacked civilian buildings and even clinics.

Al Rimal Clinic 3h ago
These are buildings with Hamas terrorists and military equipment inside. The attacks were justified. Hamas is using residential areas to make it more difficult for the IDF to neutralize the terrorists without inflicting civilian casualties. The IDF takes many precautions to prevent civilian deaths.

My sister used to work for the UN, and was stationed in Gaza.  She's no fan of Israel (putting it mildly,) but she has said more than once that she did indeed find evidence of Hamas rockets having been fired from a hospital and a school.

If we want to have a rational, constructive discussion and solution we have to recognize Hamas for what they are; a terrorist organization who terrorize their own first.  Their tactics are specifically designed to result in civilian Palestinian casualties, because that's what they want in the news reports.  The Israeli military is not equipped to root out that type of insurgency, very few military organizations are, and therefore their options are limited.

I do believe that Israel is an apartheid state, and something should be done about it.  As an American, I think we should start by not giving Israel weapons.  I'd rather pay Nato to provide their protection.  As for a two-state or a single state solution; I imagine they'll be able to work it out amongst themselves if we protect them from Iran's or our influence.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 20, 2021, 02:03:40 AM
My friend until now has worked as a journalist there and the fact is that hospitals or schools that claim Israel are not true, there are only civilians.

And the Palestinian people really love Hamas, especially Gaza, because they are the ones who dare to fight Israhell.

so I get exclusive photos and videos of what actually happened.

As an American, I think we should start by not giving Israel weapons.
Do it first to your president

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1394245300726878208



Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Desmong on May 20, 2021, 02:26:16 AM
I believe the Israelites have the right to protect them against any external forces .so why would the Hamas use place like schools, hospitals, parks etc. to carry out their evil plans against their own neighbor. When your enemies decided to fight you then , you have no other option than to fight back. I believe they're going to learn hard from their evil ways.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 20, 2021, 02:40:00 AM
so why would the Hamas use place like schools, hospitals, parks etc.
give me one photo that illustrates it all. Give me a photo that illustrates everything. After some of the buildings you mentioned above, there is a Hamas party that is dead

is this in the places you mentioned?

https://i.imgur.com/ZihpkLl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sgRJW2t.jpg


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 20, 2021, 02:58:00 AM
My solution would just be to dissolve borders and get rid of nation states. We should allow people to move freely and do what will give them a better life. This will probably never happen but at the very least the United States should stop giving them billions of dollars in aid. If they are not able to defend the land that they stole then they their claims of being entitled to it are illegitimate.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: BADecker on May 20, 2021, 04:06:13 AM
My solution would just be to dissolve borders and get rid of nation states. We should allow people to move freely and do what will give them a better life. This will probably never happen but at the very least the United States should stop giving them billions of dollars in aid. If they are not able to defend the land that they stole then they their claims of being entitled to it are illegitimate.

It's kinda like Walmart, Amazon, and other big business. They all kinda fight nice.

8)


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Meistro on May 20, 2021, 04:14:46 AM
The people of Israel aren't evil, but they shouldn't have stolen the Palestinians land in the first place.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on May 20, 2021, 12:26:11 PM
Israel has just attacked civilian buildings and even clinics.

Al Rimal Clinic 3h ago
These are buildings with Hamas terrorists and military equipment inside. The attacks were justified. Hamas is using residential areas to make it more difficult for the IDF to neutralize the terrorists without inflicting civilian casualties. The IDF takes many precautions to prevent civilian deaths.

My sister used to work for the UN, and was stationed in Gaza.  She's no fan of Israel (putting it mildly,) but she has said more than once that she did indeed find evidence of Hamas rockets having been fired from a hospital and a school.

If we want to have a rational, constructive discussion and solution we have to recognize Hamas for what they are; a terrorist organization who terrorize their own first.  Their tactics are specifically designed to result in civilian Palestinian casualties, because that's what they want in the news reports.  The Israeli military is not equipped to root out that type of insurgency, very few military organizations are, and therefore their options are limited.

I do believe that Israel is an apartheid state, and something should be done about it.  As an American, I think we should start by not giving Israel weapons.  I'd rather pay Nato to provide their protection.  As for a two-state or a single state solution; I imagine they'll be able to work it out amongst themselves if we protect them from Iran's or our influence.
Hamas is widely known as a terrorist organization and is recognized as such by the US and other Western/civilized countries. Unfortunately, many on the left are sympathetic to terrorists.

The IDF has been defending Israel against these kinds of terrorists for decades. It has a very good apolitical intelligence apparatus that is able to find terrorist cells so the IDF can neutralize them. The reason the IDF has been less successful at taking out Hamas than it might otherwise should be is that Hamas uses Palestine citizens as human shields and the IDF wants to minimize civilian deaths, even if that means that terrorists also survive air strikes.

I don't think there is much (or any) evidence that Israel is an apartheid state. Both Arabs and Jews have the right to vote in Israel, and both have equal rights in the country.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 20, 2021, 02:21:02 PM
@PrimeNumber7 you are really dumb, You can't even refute this reply (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5337219.msg57044317#msg57044317), not even based on data. your posts are just assumptions from stupid minds. Your 'Hero' rank is inconsistent with the knowledge you have.

Hamas is widely known as a terrorist organization and is recognized as such by the US and other Western/civilized countries.
Because Hamas is the only one that IsraHell cannot conquer in colonizing Palestine and Al-Aqsa.

Hamas wins Palestinian elections in early 2006
https://i.imgur.com/7Hj7ej4.jpg

Do you know what it means to win elections? Damn idiot.

It has a very good apolitical intelligence apparatus that is able to find terrorist cells so the IDF can neutralize them.
Are you serious? let's take a look at this photo :

Even with stones, I was afraid, especially when dealing directly with AL-QASAM Brigade
https://i.imgur.com/9APD1Cd.jpg

 :'(
https://i.imgur.com/PYwOcud.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TKZNBlj.jpg


The reason the IDF has been less successful at taking out Hamas than it might otherwise should be is that Hamas uses Palestine citizens as human shields
Scrool these pic, Idiot

https://i.imgur.com/HxaPnNn.jpg

Kim Sengupta, the Belfast Telegraph journalist who covered the Palestine-IsraHell War in 2014.
The same fact. There is no evidence that the Hamas used humans as shields.
https://i.imgur.com/4HiAmTS.jpg


Amnesty International: There Is No Evidence That Palestine Fighters(Hamas) Are Using Human Shields.
If the western media reports are inconclusive in this report it states that Amnesty cannot seek evidence of the use of the human shield by Palestine fighters.
https://i.imgur.com/EuXBnCH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zvklNCy.jpg

Read it right, fucking idiot:
What is surprising is that in 2014 the IDF challenged a ruling by Israel's Supreme Court ruling that a system of using humans as a shield is against international law.
https://i.imgur.com/KwCqTXj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WplZNpL.jpg

In 2004, the parties came to power IsraHell has made the 13 year old boy Muhammad Badwan as a shield to block stone masses by Palestinian demonstrators. According to the BBC report, Muhammad was beaten first before being used as a human shield.
https://i.imgur.com/s6TEcL0.jpg

BBC Report
https://i.imgur.com/OgH8TOu.jpg

The Guardian's Report:
IsraHell  Using Human Shield. The strategy made by The Guardian shows that the party fucking IDF  use human shield. This is evidenced in the documentaries of three series that have been published.
https://i.imgur.com/qZuqdiZ.jpg

BTSELEM Report:
IsraHell  Using Human Shield. This is a report by human rights NGO in Israel who is famous for fighting for Palestinian rights. Many years parties IDF  use the Palestinian people as a shield to carry out dangerous operations.
https://i.imgur.com/QRrXiCB.jpg

Report the UN : Israel Uses Children As Human Shields
The UN human rights body reports that Israeli soldiers use Palestinian children to enter dangerous structures or inspect bags that may contain explosives.
https://i.imgur.com/aq1aKx2.jpg

Defense for Children International report:
Ahmad Abu Rubaida, 16, has been used as a human shield for five consecutive days during the attack operation IDF over Gaza. He has shown, beaten, and not prevented from eating and sleeping.
https://i.imgur.com/pryg1zU.jpg

So who is using Humans as Shields?, fucking Idiot

the IDF wants to minimize civilian deaths, even if that means that terrorists also survive air strikes.
Do you still not understand? Idiot

even if that means that terrorists also survive air strikes.
because IsraHell couldn't find Hamas, its only ability to kill civilians

If you want more data and facts, show again your 'Hero' Idiot argue


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: tvbcof on May 20, 2021, 04:25:46 PM

Would have been about 10 years ago or so that one of the religious leaders was advocating a 'final solution' for the Palestinians.  Back then the citizens of Israel were not on-board enough to go for it.  Apparently they now they are.

The parallels between the Warsaw Ghetto and Gaza Strip are pronounced and have been for a long time.  Plenty of 'Jews' have pointed this out over the years, but fewer and fewer, so it seems, as the situation in that place becomes more and more severe.



Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: tabas on May 20, 2021, 09:17:17 PM
There's now truce and ceasefire between the two.
Israel and Hamas agree Gaza truce, to be monitored by Egypt (https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-official-predicts-ceasefire-soon-israel-gaza-fight-goes-2021-05-19/)


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: mu_enrico on May 21, 2021, 11:13:13 AM
1. Genocide is evil, doesn't matter if you want it on Arab, Jew, Asian, etc., no modern day sane person will support a genocide. If you support a genocide, you are evil.
2. Distinguish between the people and the government. For example, I hate Chinese Communist Party (CCP), but I don't hate Chinese people. Israeli government may be evil, but the average Joes aren't necessarily evil.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Mpamaegbu on May 25, 2021, 03:36:22 PM
The people of Israel are evil.  This is known. We have all seen what happened with the Republicans in control.  Now it is our turn.  Who knows what these evil people have up their sleeve next. 
So I say finish them off now!
You sound like one who really doesn't want the Israelites alive. Perhaps, you haven't been reading the Bible to know that the Israelites are a rare breed of people in the sight of God, the creator of the heavens and the earth. Even Psalm 122:6 urges the human race to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, and not to curse them even in matter of disputes. End of verse 6 states, — they shall prosper that love thee (Israel).


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Handala on May 25, 2021, 07:07:22 PM
https://palestinepound.org/E2AvJ60XsAELDA5.png

History

The Palestine Pound was the currency in use in Palestine until May 14, 1948.

Before the British occupation of Palestine in 1918, the Palestine area was part of the Ottoman Empire and the currency in use was the Ottoman lira. After the British occupation of Palestine, another currency which was widely circulated was the Egyptian Pound. The circulation of the Ottoman lira and the Egyptian pound created economic problems and it was decided to create the Palestine Pound which was equal to the British Pound Sterling in 1926.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/1_Palestine_Pound_1939_Obverse.jpg

The Palestine Pound that was introduced in the British occupied Palestine was different from other Pounds in that it was a decimal currency. Each pound was divided into a thousand parts, known as mils.

The Palestine Currency Board regulated the issuance of the Palestine Pound. In May 1948, the British occupation of Palestine ended effectively and the Currency Board was dissolved. The circulated quantity until May 14, 1948 of the Palestine Pound was 51,087,811.5.

It was not until June 1952 that the occupation government discontinued the circulation of the Palestine Pound after new banknotes were issued by the their bank.

Jordan replaced the Palestine Pound with the Jordanian dinar in 1949. In 1950, the Palestine Pound circulation was discontinued in West Bank. The Jordanian dinar and the shekel are legal tenders in the West Bank today. Inhabitants of the Gaza Strip also use the shekel and the Egyptian Pound today.

Palestine Authority cannot issue its own currency

Under the Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangement, also known as the Oslo Accord, the Palestine Authority cannot issue its own currency, issue debt or carry out economic and financial services that are synonymous to an independent state. This has reduced the Palestine Authority to a mere local administration whose economic viability is reliant on the occupation government and on the currencies of Egypt, occupation government, and Jordan.

The Paris Protocol, which was signed in April 1994 led to the creation of the PMA (Palestine Monetary Authority) which would serve as an economic and financial advisory to the Palestine Authority. However, the Paris Protocol empowered the PMA function as a central bank and provides financial liquidity to the Palestine area which must be expressly subject to the approval of the occupation government. The PMA recognizes the occupation government Shekel as one of the legal tenders in occupied Palestine.

Today, transactions in occupied Palestine are carried out in the Shekels, while US dollars and the Jordanian Dinar are used for bulky and larger transactions. Credit cards, Visa, MasterCard, and American express are all accepted in banks, hotels and restaurants as well as with many ATMs. The Palestine economy is heavily reliant on the occupation government economy and the occupation controls the imports and exports as the Palestine Authority cannot directly earn duties on international trade except through occupation government.

The Palestinians want a free and truly independent state alongside their own currency. The question of a currency for Palestine has not been featured in the international communities and economists believe that it might take a long while before Palestine is ready for its own currency.

Free Palestine Campaign on paper notes

https://palestinepound.org/freepalestine.jpg

As part of agitations for independence, in month of March 2011, two men in city of Ramallah started a campaign on Facebook with a message for Palestinians to write “Free Palestine” on the Shekel paper notes to promote an independent Palestinian state.

Meanwhile, the Palestinian Banking Society warned that banks could refuse the bills with a slogan written on them, and therefore Palestinian banks also would not accept the notes.

Why we're here

https://steemitimages.com/1280x0/https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmTccW1LXNorLcZtXX5j8WSQGxrHja8cdXCrDPzTFLtKhU/image.png

In a bid to create an independent Palestinian currency, a Palestinian digital currency is being planned. Palestine Pound will come back to life again as a cryptocurrency Network Services for Palestinians and their supporters. Due to the absence of an independent currency of the Palestinian state, the Palestine authorities have little control over money supply and inflation. It was conceived to circumvent the challenges Palestinians faces in receiving hard currencies and we believe that the digital currency will help the Palestinians achieve total economic freedom from the occupation government.

Palestine Pound will be launched soon. The Palestine Pound specifications: total pounds will be 51,087,812. Approximate to the historical amount circulated in the past, proof of work, not premined, etc.

The Palestine Pound will have the logo above: the text Palestine Pound , Dome of Rock (Symbol of Jerusalem - the capital of Palestine) and the hashtag #FreePalestine.

As creators of the digital currency, we will be willing to hand over the cryptocurrency to a united Palestinian Authority recognized and accepted by the Palestine people.

Warning
We the creators of the Palestine Pound sternly warn that Anti-Semitism is not something we accept or tolerate. We believe all religious or ethnic groups to be equal humans, including the Jewish people of Palestine.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Xinarae* on May 26, 2021, 03:56:28 AM
Israel is really bad the palestinian people are being brutalized in jerusalem including gaza. It is the religion of humanity not to hurt anyone's religious feelings but the israeli security forces who entered the Al-Aqsa Mosque during the holy month of ramadan and persecuted innocent women men and children the international community must take swift action to protect the Palestinian people from israel's barbaric genocide. In order to establish world humanity it is time for all nations and peoples of the world to unite and protest against the barbaric torture and genocide of Israel.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 26, 2021, 04:58:10 AM
IsraHell fanboys always turn a blind eye to what is really happening to Palestinians. photos, videos are not enough to resuscitate them. maybe they will realize when what happened to the Palestinians is experienced by them, I hope so.

They are too naive to always argue that the crimes committed by IsraHell do not represent Jews absolutely (Jews in the state of IsraHell). The fact is if you read the history of IsraHell that the country was formed with the aim of hosting Jews all over the world unless they did not accept Jews from Ethophia. Then if that is the case, can the Jews (IsraHell) be called irresponsible for what happened?


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: tvbcof on May 26, 2021, 06:13:10 AM
Note that there are Israeli citizens who desperately wish to leave the country, and probably the whole idea of 'Judaism' and 'Jewish bloodlines' and all that crap behind but cannot because nobody wants Israelis around.  These are good and decent people who deserve more than the normal level of empathy.

I am lucky to have been born American and there actually have been good things that America did for the world in the distant past.  That memory lives on in the minds of various populations around the world (unfortunately for them.)  For this reason I seem to be somewhat welcome.

Israel is accelerating their program of some of the most brutal ethnic cleansing ever seen in history even at this time.  Anyone who can open their eyes can see it.  The nation has never done anything for anyone but themselves and they exploit and subvert every other nation they can when there is any potential benefit to them.  Sometimes they seem to do so out of nothing but simple malice and sadism.  This would fit pretty well with their religion based on the Babylonian Talmud with it's deep seeded fear and hatred of all non-Jews.



Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 26, 2021, 07:01:30 AM
@tvbcof
I love hearing Americans like you see this clearly. The fact that Israel has committed repeated crimes against Palestinians is not justified even if it is based on their religious dogma.

The pages of history will never be lost because of Israel's greed and criminality. one day the world will see it and react in a significant way and simultaneously prosecute Israel for its crimes.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: mu_enrico on May 26, 2021, 07:30:38 AM
You sound like one who really doesn't want the Israelites alive. Perhaps, you haven't been reading the Bible to know that the Israelites are a rare breed of people in the sight of God, the creator of the heavens and the earth.
Modern Israel is a nation consist of multiple races (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel) and beliefs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Israel), thus the old scripture is not relevant.

There are:
- Extremist Jew Israeli
- Liberal/Atheist Jew Israeli
- Muslim Jew Israeli
- Christian Jew Israeli
- Liberal/Atheist Arab Israeli
- Muslim Arab Israeli
- Christian Arab Israeli
- etc, including black, white, yellow (list above is the significant one AFAIK)

We talk about human being, not like dogs that can have pure bloodlines with selective breeding. There will be a mixture of races and beliefs in humans.



Anyway, if we talk about Israel as a nation, which group do you (blood-thirsty dudes) want to eradicate? Or do you want to change the government? What if the people there love their government?


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 26, 2021, 07:49:35 AM
You're talking about human beings but yourn't talking about human rights that must be safeguarded. Isn't it enough, is Israel doing to violate the rights of Palestinians as complete humans?

we must judge the end of an event. If you only judge what is inside Israel itself (the pros and cons of the country) it is a risk if the head of the State commits a crime regardless of the nuances within it.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: mu_enrico on May 26, 2021, 08:48:59 AM
You're talking about human beings but yourn't talking about human rights that must be safeguarded. Isn't it enough, is Israel doing to violate the rights of Palestinians as complete humans?

we must judge the end of an event. If you only judge what is inside Israel itself (the pros and cons of the country) it is a risk if the head of the State commits a crime regardless of the nuances within it.
We condemn the killing of civilians by Israel, and whatever human rights violation they did.

But, it's not right to solve problems with violence, especially when there were full scale attacks against Israel, they always ended up winning and claim bigger territories, and thousand deaths. FYI, Arab coalitions (not just one state) attacked Israel in three different wars, and they always ended up losing territories and lives.

"It's insanity when you try to do the same things and expect different results." That's why don't give them reason to do war, as they will use it as a means of capturing new territories. When there is war, civilians on both sides are the victims, and since Israel is winning (historically), the casualties are way bigger on the opposite sides.

We are dealing with a powerful country (*cough* government), just like Russia, China, US.

What I tried to explain is this situation is not merely because of race/religion since many of the supporters on both sides use it to spread hate (why would you support this kind of thing anyway *facepalm*). Citing Bible or Quran is not relevant.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 26, 2021, 10:13:48 AM
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But, it's not right to solve problems with violence, especially when there were full scale attacks against Israel, they always ended up winning and claim bigger territories, and thousand deaths. FYI, Arab coalitions (not just one state) attacked Israel in three different wars, and they always ended up losing territories and lives.
as if you're always standing in the middle and siding with humanity without ever knowing the trigger for violence?, who started violence first?, why violence was carried out?, this was done after prior warning, you should not discuss the past too far. speak of yesterday's 11th war. who started it?, why are they willing to die to pick them up just to defend Al-Aqsa. losing / winning, the most important thing is that the resistance to Israeli aggression must be carried out.

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"It's insanity when you try to do the same things and expect different results." That's why don't give them reason to do war, as they will use it as a means of capturing new territories. When there is war, civilians on both sides are the victims, and since Israel is winning (historically), the casualties are way bigger on the opposite sides.
every event was always Israhell who was the trigger. Is it wrong for the Palestinians to defend their territory? They always try to fight even though in the end there are many victims and Israel has new territory. For them it is better to fight than to be silent. Try to read the map that I have written first so you understand why the Palestinian people are so tough and never give up on Israel regardless of the end result.

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What I tried to explain is this situation is not merely because of race/religion since many of the supporters on both sides use it to spread hate (why would you support this kind of thing anyway *facepalm*). Citing Bible or Quran is not relevant.
Lol,
https://i.imgur.com/ev8L6Tm.jpg
do you know who he is ?,  that's just 1 fact that i attach

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Quran is not relevant.
Specifically for the Qur'an you don't have the right to comment on the verses it contains. judging that a verse of the Qur'an can't only be read and become a Muslim but must have a good religious background and have special education in their field. Especially if you're non-Muslim it is better to keep quiet.

Judging which Qur'anic verses are Relevant or irrelevant doesn't only offend the Qur'an itself but you offend the followers and creators of the Qur'an itself. I know who you're, so speak according to your expertise, don't judge the verses of the Qur'an according to your thoughts. You aren't the expert(Tafsir, hafidz, kiai, ustad).


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Poker Player on May 26, 2021, 10:17:03 AM
OP is another simple-minded guy, like the one who wants to wipe out all Republicans. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5339270.0) For me, everyone in armed conflicts of religions could wipe each other out. Religions served their function at one time in human history, but that time has passed and all they do is hinder progress.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: mu_enrico on May 26, 2021, 12:24:11 PM
biased history lesson
Let's say Israel started all the conflict, will it change the fact they are far more powerful than the neighboring Arab states? Go ahead spreading hate so there will be many more Hamas attacks (and expect much devastating counter attacks). It's not you who are in the crosshair though. Or better, ask Arab alliance to do war again and lost again.

If you want peace, start thinking with your head.

https://i.imgur.com/ev8L6Tm.jpg
do you know who he is ?,  that's just 1 fact that i attach
A delusional asshole? Trump on steroids?

Especially if you're non-Muslim it is better to keep quiet.
LOL, I bet you just now know there are many Muslim Arabs in Israel, or Muslim Jews are exist.

You aren't the expert(Tafsir, hafidz, kiai, ustad).
How do you know I'm not educated in Quran? If I speak against your belief, my blood now halal?

You must remember this: Sultan Mohammed V protected the Jews of Casablanca (https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-hurowitz-moroccan-king-mohammed-v-20170425-story.html)

This is not a war about religion, but states fighting over the "sacred" place/territory.

I'm out, do what you want. ~bye


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 26, 2021, 01:00:21 PM
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Let's say Israel started all the conflict, will it change the fact they are far more powerful than the neighboring Arab states? Go ahead spreading hate so there will be many more Hamas attacks (and expect much devastating counter attacks). It's not you who are in the crosshair though. Or better, ask Arab alliance to do war again and lost again.
I said it's not about who is strong / weak and even who is losing / winning. This is about the facts that actually happened in Palestine and Israhell always positioned him as a victim.

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If you want peace, start thinking with your head.
The appeal should be aimed at Israeli fanboys

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A delusional asshole? Trump on steroids?
That is a small part of why Jews in Israel want to seize Palestinian land based on religious dogma.

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How do you know I'm not educated in Quran? If I speak against your belief, my blood now halal?[1]
[1] nah..Well, your statement is wrong, there are steps that are skipped.

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This is not a war about religion, but states fighting over the "sacred" place/territory.
You know it.

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I'm out, do what you want. ~bye
Yes always. see you later.  ~bye


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: DigitalFox on May 26, 2021, 09:06:55 PM
Whenever I see posts like that about israelis I'm always tempted to ask who in OP's opinion is more evil, jews, shia or sunni.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: eddie13 on May 27, 2021, 01:00:07 AM
Specifically for the Qur'an you don't have the right to comment on the verses it contains. judging that a verse of the Qur'an can't only be read and become a Muslim but must have a good religious background and have special education in their field. Especially if you're non-Muslim it is better to keep quiet.

Judging which Qur'anic verses are Relevant or irrelevant doesn't only offend the Qur'an itself but you offend the followers and creators of the Qur'an itself. I know who you're, so speak according to your expertise, don't judge the verses of the Qur'an according to your thoughts. You aren't the expert(Tafsir, hafidz, kiai, ustad).

About the last people in the world I would trust to translate or explain what is in the Quran would be a devout Muslim..
That’s like transiting a used car salesman trying to tell you the beat up old sports car was owned by a granny..

Similarly, the last people in the world I would trust to translate and explain the Talmud would be devout Jews..
Wouldn’t much trust Catholics to explain the new testament either..

I’ve read the Quran, it’s full of some crazy shit..
I consider it basically something written to control conquered lands of Muhammad who was a power hungry warlord trying to bring the entire world under his single empire..
And then many after him kept the same goals always expanding the caliphate..

Basically the same thing as if Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, or Julius Caesar, etc whatever other warlords proclaimed their command as a religion rather than simply law..
The unique thing about Islam is that it is a political idealism and a religion all wrapped up in one, including some crazy ass inhumane and disgusting rules/laws in sharia..

You Muslims don’t like Jews very much do you?
Did you know that Jews were instrumental in the caliphate when Islam took Northern Africa and Spain?
All the way back then the Jews subverted the the last of the gothics to take over Spain..
The Jews cooperated immensely with Islam during the expansion of their caliphate..

The Jews aren’t really much any better in history than Islam, they just go about it in different ways..
Islam is very violent and warlike, conquering via slaughter, while Jews a very much smarter and more intelligent, but far less militarily adept in history, using their intelligence to subvert to conquer und usery to enslave rather than chains, but they have been incredibly successful in their goals aswell..

Catholics.. Just another power hungry sect..


The world today is ruled much more by intelligence than physical battle, and the Jews are vastly more intelligent than Muslims in average, this is why they are winning, even while being vastly outnumbered..
You have to hand it to the Jews.. They are smart as fuck..

Muslims work right alongside the Jews when it’s convienent for them, but they better watch out because they will outwit them and fuck them over just like any other goyim..


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on May 27, 2021, 01:43:38 AM
We talk about human being, not like dogs that can have pure bloodlines with selective breeding. There will be a mixture of races and beliefs in humans.
Unfortunately people like Ljunior, and other radical extremists such as AOC, Hamas, and similar reduce the Israelis as animals they want to kill. These people do not recognize the right for Jews and Isreal to exist. This extremism should be strongly condemned. Of course everyone with whatever religious beliefs should have the right to exist. Anyone who disagrees is nothing short of a monster.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: eddie13 on May 27, 2021, 01:54:48 AM
We talk about human being, not like dogs that can have pure bloodlines with selective breeding. There will be a mixture of races and beliefs in humans.
Unfortunately people like Ljunior, and other radical extremists such as AOC, Hamas, and similar reduce the Israelis as animals they want to kill. These people do not recognize the right for Jews and Isreal to exist. This extremism should be strongly condemned. Of course everyone with whatever religious beliefs should have the right to exist. Anyone who disagrees is nothing short of a monster.

Israelis should definitely not just be killed, but they should absolutely be watched very closely because they are always up to sly tricks..
They have the strongest ingroup preference and workings of all peoples and use it masterfully..

Biden’s staff right now is somewhere around 60% Jews.. They are everywhere in positions of control and power and should NOT be trusted to be looking out for the best interest of anyone other than their fellow Jews..
Trump wasn’t really any better in this regard either, but atleast Trump did care for the interest of the western peoples, while Biden does not..


Somehow it’s generally accepted as ok that the Jews can have their ethnic homeland, border walls, and disallow immigration so they don’t loose their majority status, while if western whites even mentioned doing the same they would be accused of being racist nazis..

Funnily enough, Israel and China are probably better at being national socialists than Germany ever was..
In all actuality that is basically what they are..
But that’s fine.. They aren’t white..


I’m personally unsure about Israel..
I’m not so convinced that Jews have more claim to it than Muslims or Christians as a homeland..


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 27, 2021, 02:56:54 AM
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Unfortunately people like Ljunior, and other radical extremists such as AOC, Hamas, and similar reduce the Israelis as animals they want to kill. These people do not recognize the right for Jews and Isreal to exist. This extremism should be strongly condemned. Of course everyone with whatever religious beliefs should have the right to exist. Anyone who disagrees is nothing short of a monster.
Unfortunately people like PrimeNumber7, and other radical extremists such as IDF, Netanyahu, Grantz and similar reduce the Palestian as animals they want to kill. These people do not recognize the right for Muslim and Palestina to exist. This extremism should be strongly condemned. Of course everyone with whatever religious beliefs should have the right to exist. Anyone who disagrees is nothing short of a monster.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: vv181 on May 27, 2021, 03:34:22 AM
You're talking about human beings but yourn't talking about human rights that must be safeguarded. ~
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Quran is not relevant.
Specifically for the Qur'an you don't have the right to comment on the verses it contains. judging that a verse of the Qur'an can't only be read and become a Muslim but must have a good religious background and have special education in their field.~

@Ljunior you're talking about human rights but you are not talking about freedom of speech that must be safeguarded. Or are you thinking that specifically Qur'an is the only thing that excluded from freedom of speech?


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 27, 2021, 03:48:38 AM
Please use your freedom to speak about whatever it is, but I will not respond to anything when talking about the Talmud, the Bible and the Qur'an in depth.

I only focus on the topic of Israel vs Palestine.

I myself will not mention the Talmud, the Bible and even the Qur'an because it will be off topic (Israel vs Palestine).



Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: mu_enrico on May 27, 2021, 04:58:41 AM
Funnily enough, Israel and China are probably better at being national socialists than Germany ever was..
In all actuality that is basically what they are..
But that’s fine.. They aren’t white..
Yep that's why I used CCP as an example of national socialist/communist power hungry country that should be watched.
But I don't think Israel is as severe as CCP where they have some democracy (even if it's only for Jew). There is still hope that liberal Jew or at least Jew that open-minded and have no interest in expanding their territory will win the election, and grant rights to non-Jew. This is a slow process, but can be achieved as in the past, my country also discriminate Chinese, but not so much in the present days.

I’m not so convinced that Jews have more claim to it than Muslims or Christians as a homeland..
I think it's better to make it as International territory managed by the UN.

Splitting the land 50:50 should have been the solution, but neither satisfied with only 50%.


There are extremists on both sides that should be equally condemned.

And remember, without forgiveness, there will be no peace.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: $ISLM on May 27, 2021, 07:38:25 AM
Palestinian Ministry of Health:  "19 Palestinian families have been wiped off the civil registry after Israel’s bombardment of residential areas in Gaza, including 45 children."


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Renampun on May 27, 2021, 09:09:54 AM
the direction of this topic is no longer clear...

so that we can clearly see the root of the Palestinian and Israeli problems, we should not look at it from a HAMAS perspective and a ZIONIST perspective. look from a HUMAN perspective.

Hamas are desperately guarding the Al Aqsa Mosque so that the Dajjal does not come down, this is based on what I heard from a lecture at the mosque around the house

whereas the Zionists are eager to reclaim Jerusalem because it is the promised land that God promised Moses and the Jews.

Do not say that God is actually trying to pit Palestine and Israel against each other, this is just a matter of land grabbing.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: tvbcof on May 27, 2021, 09:31:21 AM
I think it's better to make it as International territory managed by the UN.

Splitting the land 50:50 should have been the solution, but neither satisfied with only 50%.


The U.N. involvement in the 'British Mandate' contributed immensely to the problem in the first place.  They gave 2/3 or the land to 1/3 of the people.  It was unfair from the get-go yet everyone acts surprised that the Palestinians objected.

The U.N. has been as useless as tits on a boar hog through all the Zionist occupation of the 1/3 that the Palestinians did get with the Irgun death squads, ethnic cleansing, weapons testing on kids, etc.  They pay a little lip service to 'human rights' and such, but it's obviously phony and they let the Zionists do whatever they want.  The U.N. is as much or more under control of the Zionist as is the U.S. and every other country that uses their Babylonian money magick system where money is debt (owed to them at interest.)



Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Black_Pawn on May 27, 2021, 06:44:27 PM
I have the greatest respect for the people in charge of this forum. I hope they will see how this thread is breaking quite a few rules as established here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Any cordial, political discussion should always be welcomed. But to call for a nation to be 'finished off' on a public forum is something else.

 


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 28, 2021, 04:28:33 AM
because here some people think the forum is free to speak even though the limits of speaking depend on their own thoughts. in my opinion, simple what is according to your limits then speak and what you think is outside your boundaries then don't respond. simple..


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: eddie13 on May 28, 2021, 04:57:12 AM
Would it be against the forum rules to say, “ISIS is evil! Finish them off!”?

Doubt it.. Their isn’t really any difference legally..

Pretty sure you can say anything you want here within the bounds of the US law, which is still quite free..


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 29, 2021, 07:51:09 AM
I thought the title Israel is evil. Finish them off! was apt

https://i.imgur.com/uCjPM7l.jpg

 


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: tvbcof on May 29, 2021, 08:36:23 AM
I thought the title Israel is evil. Finish them off! was apt [/center]

[img_]https://i.imgur.com/uCjPM7l.jpg[/img]


I disagree that it 'finish them off' is apt because 'finish them off' implies that an entity is weakened and on it's last legs.  If you 'finish off' a beer, for instance, it means that most of the bottle is gone.  That does not seem the case at all with Israel.  They have a well developed and highly effective strategy of parasitizing and subverting powerful nations to work in their interests, and their programs seem to be going strength to strength.  Their increasing propensity toward violent ethnic cleansing reflects this...and Biden's 'win' seems to have given them an extra shot of juice.



Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on May 29, 2021, 04:43:53 PM
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Unfortunately people like Ljunior, and other radical extremists such as AOC, Hamas, and similar reduce the Israelis as animals they want to kill. These people do not recognize the right for Jews and Isreal to exist. This extremism should be strongly condemned. Of course everyone with whatever religious beliefs should have the right to exist. Anyone who disagrees is nothing short of a monster.
Unfortunately people like PrimeNumber7, and other radical extremists such as IDF, Netanyahu, Grantz and similar reduce the Palestian as animals they want to kill. These people do not recognize the right for Muslim and Palestina to exist.

That is ridiculous. The IDF takes care to ensure that Palestine citizens being used as human shields are not harmed, even if this means reducing the chances of terrorists being killed. Israel provides free electricity and water to Palestine. If Israel wanted to kill the Palestine people, they would just cutoff water service, no military involvement would be necessary.

Unfortunately, Palestine is governed by the terrorist organization Hamas. I think that Israel should free Palestine from this terrorist rule!


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: xayan123 on May 29, 2021, 04:45:27 PM
I agree, let's wipe israel as a state. It is a corrupt apartheid regime.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: tvbcof on May 29, 2021, 05:02:31 PM
I agree, let's wipe israel as a state. It is a corrupt apartheid regime.

I don't think this is a good idea.  That would disperse them back among 'the nations' more then they already are.  I'd be more inclined to encourage the 'bad Jews' to 'make aliyah' (within the '67 borders) and offer the good and normal ones who happened to be have the mis-fortune of being born there an opportunity to escape.  That's more than most people, and in particular most of the people of Gaza, get.

Part and parcel to such a strategy would be for the world to study and understand the pernicious nature of psychopaths and the teachings of the Babylonian Talmud and be wary of their impact in the civilized world.  We owe it to humanity to put an end to Israel's ethnic cleansing and give all the people of 'the promised land' a fair shake free of abuse and misery.  After all the West, and other nations who allowed themselves to be corrupted, were facilitators of these human rights abuses.  Whatever it takes to achieve that goal, within reason, I'd be all for.



Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: supine on May 29, 2021, 11:35:59 PM
Don't generalize them maybe some are terrorist but there are some who are innocent.
And also don't you think that asking them to be killed is more evil? Because you are also asking to kill innocent people there including Infant,Kids and old people who couldn't fight back for their life?


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 30, 2021, 04:56:04 AM
That is ridiculous. The IDF takes care to ensure that Palestine citizens being used as human shields are not harmed, even if this means reducing the chances of terrorists being killed. Israel provides free electricity and water to Palestine. If Israel wanted to kill the Palestine people, they would just cutoff water service, no military involvement would be necessary.

Unfortunately, Palestine is governed by the terrorist organization Hamas. I think that Israel should free Palestine from this terrorist rule!

lol,  @PrimeNumber7 does not cover up facts that are already there and reported by credible parties https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5337219.msg57052010#msg57052010 . Your and my assumptions have very little effect on the world but if those assumptions are based on facts then they will be a small part of the change.

Just look at the world now starting to act against Israel, including some of the US people, Was the world community acting against Israhell stupid in assumptions and arguments?

@PrimeNumber7, as you call Hamas terrorists, does not make them disappear and is hated by the people of Palestine, especially GAZA. Terrorists are just a western term for those who do not want to be controlled. Meanwhile, the facts will not be lost because of the 'terrorist' label, even the label is turned back by the Palestinians against their aggression.

The truth will find its own way. Even now Israhell has a new nickname by the media, namely "Apartheid Regim". Now the world's eyes are on Israhell. It took a long time for the world to become aware of Israhell's crimes but it's a good change


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Beparanf on May 30, 2021, 05:07:54 AM
because here some people think the forum is free to speak even though the limits of speaking depend on their own thoughts. in my opinion, simple what is according to your limits then speak and what you think is outside your boundaries then don't respond. simple..

There's really a freedom of speech here but there's also some rules and limitations as per forum guidelines. You should follow that since you are using there forum and not yours. Try to read the guidelines first before you post here. Asking here for the destruction of Israel will not gonna help your advocacy. Most of the people are traders and miners which don't have time on this kind of advocacy. Try to understand that and lock this thread immediately.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Natsuu on May 30, 2021, 05:53:53 AM
because here some people think the forum is free to speak even though the limits of speaking depend on their own thoughts. in my opinion, simple what is according to your limits then speak and what you think is outside your boundaries then don't respond. simple..

There's really a freedom of speech here but there's also some rules and limitations as per forum guidelines. You should follow that since you are using there forum and not yours. Try to read the guidelines first before you post here. Asking here for the destruction of Israel will not gonna help your advocacy. Most of the people are traders and miners which don't have time on this kind of advocacy. Try to understand that and lock this thread immediately.

OP is a newbie account so its okay to call him out, though I suggest him to take a detour in the begginer's threads where he can learn what he must and must not do in this forum.

I agree, let's wipe israel as a state. It is a corrupt apartheid regime.

Do you have the power to do so?, no? so its just riding the wave of hate, or riding the wave of the topic's popularity.

Anyway, wiping something like this will not resolve anything. It will just induce further hatred thus not really resolving the root of the issue.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: FIFA worldcup on May 30, 2021, 08:37:19 AM
The people of Israel are evil.  This is known. We have all seen what happened with the Republicans in control.  Now it is our turn.  Who knows what these evil people have up their sleeve next. 
So I say finish them off now!

No matter what they do, the world won't declare them terrorist  or evil. The main reason for this is that they control the international media and they publish what is instructed to them by the Israel. The Barbarousness which is caused by the Israel is far more than shown on the tv and print media.  :(


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Ljunior on May 30, 2021, 09:14:11 AM
because here some people think the forum is free to speak even though the limits of speaking depend on their own thoughts. in my opinion, simple what is according to your limits then speak and what you think is outside your boundaries then don't respond. simple..

There's really a freedom of speech here but there's also some rules and limitations as per forum guidelines. You should follow that since you are using there forum and not yours. Try to read the guidelines first before you post here. Asking here for the destruction of Israel will not gonna help your advocacy. Most of the people are traders and miners which don't have time on this kind of advocacy. Try to understand that and lock this thread immediately.

I don't understand what you are saying by quoting my post. if it's for me then as far as i know there are no rules i have broken (1-33 rules) but if a quote to the OP, let's just wait for the OP's response.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: int03h on May 30, 2021, 09:36:19 AM
The world is tired of wars between religions and ethnicities. The god of all religions doesn't want his followers to fight over anything. They really are fanatics.
I hope that one day the war for religion will end, people can live together in peace and help each other grow.


Title: Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off!
Post by: Black_Pawn on May 31, 2021, 12:01:13 AM
"The people of Israel are evil [...] finish them off now" - This is how this thread begins.

The problem here is not the title of the thread. Rather it is the difference between a State and its citizens. This discussion starts by asking to "finish off" the people of a certain country. It doesn't even matter what country. What matters is the clear instigation to violence which goes against forum rules even if we employ a more liberal interpretation.

Rule #8: No threats to inflict bodily harm, death threats.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0