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Title: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Hydrogen on May 17, 2021, 11:19:46 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

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I think the sad truth is, people who lose big money gambling. Are the same people who would lose big money investing in the stock market. Some demographics simply don't make good financial decisions. There are always big losers and big winners in every industry. And don't understand why gambling is being painted in a light where only the big losers are acknowledged.

Fantasy sports is illegal in my US state. This may deprive me of options and opportunities to make money and profit.

To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: ene1980 on May 17, 2021, 11:59:35 PM
I think the sad truth is, people who lose big money gambling. Are the same people who would lose big money investing in the stock market. Some demographics simply don't make good financial decisions. There are always big losers and big winners in every industry. And don't understand why gambling is being painted in a light where only the big losers are acknowledged.
Many who gambled their life fortunes usually comes forward telling their experience and may even write a book and publish them and then try to make money and if you google you can find many instance of people loosing everything in life and then trying to start over.

 
To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.
Addiction is the problem, anyone addicted to gambling will make bad decision in investment as well and majority of the known addicts are from sports and movie industry who made millions and are struggling with gambling addiction and we have not heard about a big investor coming forward complaining about their gambling addiction ;D.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Obito on May 18, 2021, 01:03:58 AM
Because there are too few of a winners compared to losers in gambling, also gambling isn't a healthy habit to have since it is a vice and it can be addicting. The motive behind the campaign is that they want to help people deter from possibility of gambling addiction.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Wexnident on May 18, 2021, 05:39:56 AM
It's not really gambling itself imo, but rather an addiction to it. Well in other words, the mental issue associated with addiction, and let's be real, Idk why but gamblers always, ALWAYS have that tag in them. Like every bloody gambler alive in this world always has that tag of addicted to gambling, probably due to the long-term aversion of people and their negative idea towards the prospect of gambling. The negative idea probably stemmed from the fact that you can lose money in gambling. Yes, any other form of activity also makes you lose money, but gambling has that set number that you can lose, and there's technically no limit to it.

Sides, the media doesn't advertise winners probably because they don't want to encourage gambling. Yes, people win, but among the numerous number of people gambling, what percentage actually wins, enough to actually make gambling worth it?


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: electronicash on May 18, 2021, 05:51:58 AM

it's a way to educate people to prioritize the most important things in life than spending their money on gambling. many states are not making gambling legal because of the reason that there better things to do than playing on casinos. fantasy sport in this case. it's for the rich people who have more to spend than the poor who hardly meet ends. that's why they tend to emphasize on ads or news that gambling can do no good.  these ads didn't stop us anyway. maybe until something happens.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: jrrsparkles on May 18, 2021, 06:16:05 AM
Simply a common fella don't go into gambling activities have the mindset of negative aspects related to gambling since media is just want nothing but the attention so they just fueling those common fellas mindset to get more coverage for very long time. And also religious things can interpret the gambling as illegal but the actual reason why it was portrayed as bad in the 2000 years ago was completely different.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Jawhead999 on May 18, 2021, 06:27:01 AM
1. Envy with the casinos staff or owner that can made a lot money.
2. The more people lose compared to the winner.
3. Many cases of gamblers who addicted with gambling is doing negatively (e.g. breakup, sell house, sell land and become beggar)
4. Religions, some religion is forbid gambling and consider it as haram.
5. Government, some government ban gambling industry as it's illegal.
6. A stereotype that gambling is full of criminal person and can harm you.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Poker Player on May 18, 2021, 06:36:26 AM
I suppose it is at least partly due to puritanism (in a broad sense). Gambling, alcohol or casual sexual relations have always had enemies and those who criticize them have taken the negative cases to paint a black picture about those activities. Yes, there are people who gamble fortunes and lose everything, just as there are people who destroy their lives with alcohol, but the vast majority of people gamble or drink responsibly.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: swogerino on May 18, 2021, 06:58:34 AM
That is easy to explain.In marketing they say that a happy customer will tell at maximum about the product to four persons while a not happy customer will tell at a minimum to 11 persons but can up to 25 persons.The same can be said about gambling because most people lose they tend to tell to more persons than winning gamblers.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Mauser on May 18, 2021, 07:00:55 AM
I noticed the same, the topics about negative side effects of gambling grew a lot over the last few months. The main reason behind is that probably more people got into gambling since the corona pandemic. With a higher number of gamblers we will also see more people who lose, even though the chances of losing or didn't really change. Also I think that people have a little bit more time at the moment due do home office and less outdoor activities, so we can talk about our gambling experiences. On top of that is the need to talk to about gambling stronger when we lose than when we are winning. In my culture we tend to be more secretive about money and wouldn't really share with others if we won.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: NeuroticFish on May 18, 2021, 07:06:08 AM
To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

Gambling is, by far, not a way to make money. If one believes this, then he's doing it wrong.
Gambling is one nice way to spend time and have fun. Casinos are wow, sports betting makes watching the games more intense... but caution is needed. People often forget to not bet more than they afford to lose. People get easily addicted and can lose everything - money, goods, friends, sometimes family or their life too.
Awareness is necessary. Warnings are necessary. Of course, the negativity is overkill. But doesn't the media exaggerate everything? Isn't the media nowadays farther and farther from actual news and closer to shocking non-information just to keep people there for the ads? Then why the ever high expectations about what the media tells?


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: madnessteat on May 18, 2021, 07:25:29 AM
~snip~

Gambling is condemned or even considered a great sin in many religions such as Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism and others. So I am not surprised that in most cases gambling is portrayed in a negative light.  


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: crwth on May 18, 2021, 08:20:07 AM
Whenever someone mentions gambling, it's almost always connected to the fact that it can be addicting. Most people once exposed to the idea that you can win enormous amounts of money, they tend to push their luck and think that they can do the same. That's probably the reason why there's not much advertisement with regards to positive and life-changing results from gambling.

There could be another factor, like how the government sees gambling. Some governments ban it that's why it's underground and illegal (more money that way, I think) and there are governments that allow it as long as they pay taxes.



To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.
It could be a bit of both since it would be hard for the government to take care of people losing everything and turning themselves into criminals, so they protect them by not covering positive things about it and the deprivation that comes with gambling. Not giving opportunity for a life-changing strategy when it's taken away from people.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: mu_enrico on May 18, 2021, 08:34:17 AM
What you see/read on the media always has an agenda. Perhaps big tech companies don't like gambling and they push this narrative.
And if you add this:
Gambling is condemned or even considered a great sin in many religions such as Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism and others. So I am not surprised that in most cases gambling is portrayed in a negative light. 
Practically no one supports gambling, just like with cigarette industries.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Renampun on May 18, 2021, 08:49:57 AM
the main problem is 'gambling addicts'...

in some countries gambling is legal and recognized by the state, even many countries that recognize gambling provide counseling to cure gambling addiction for free. Gambling gives a sizable tax on the state, it is a legal business but addicts who make bad gambling should be done away with.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: traderethereum on May 18, 2021, 09:05:28 AM
That is easy to explain.In marketing they say that a happy customer will tell at maximum about the product to four persons while a not happy customer will tell at a minimum to 11 persons but can up to 25 persons.The same can be said about gambling because most people lose they tend to tell to more persons than winning gamblers.
Besides that, it is easy to say a negative thing to many people than to say a positive thing to few people.
Many people say that playing gambling is not good for their finances because they already see the impact people can get from gambling.
They do not want to see other people lose much money in gambling games to warn people not to playing gambling.
If people still want to play gambling, they will suggest using small money and playing gambling because they have fun and spend their free time.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Jackl87 on May 18, 2021, 09:21:18 AM
I think those campaigns have a right and a reason to exist. As far as i know they don't say "you should never start gambling" but they just warn you that you can easily get addicted to gambling and once you are addicted it is very much possible that you lose a lot of money that you would have needed to cover your daily costs. It is true that there are people out there that make a living out of sports betting and gambling but i really think only few people manage to do this. Gambling and sports betting is meant to be just for fun or to make watching your favorite sports a little bit more excitement because you placed a bet.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on May 18, 2021, 10:37:07 AM
Gambling its like habits some people concern it as bad habbits or for some people who are really religous tought gambling also restricted in many religion. but still everybody had different mindset about it as long they only saying it without doing any act against law i think its totally fine.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: imstillthebest on May 18, 2021, 10:41:04 AM
there are winning post in gambling but loosing post are more than it
. this is why we think they are against gambling but this is the truth , its hard to win in gambling . a loosing post in gambling can make gambling bad but it gives awareness if what are the effects of gambling .  
you can continue gambling if its not restricted in your area and you can make money in other games not only in fantasy sports .


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: acroman08 on May 18, 2021, 12:17:06 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.
to keep people from being inspired from all the stories about winning in gambling and to hopefully scare them enough from gambling or at least be cautious about the dangers of gambling. gambling is a dangerous game, hobby, or profession (whatever you like to call them) that could destroy the lives of a person and families. and besides what do you think would be the percentage between the people who won in gambling that changed or help their lives to the ones that lost and destroyed or made lives harder because of losing in gambling?

To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.
I'd say the first one. gambling can have devastating consequences to the gambler and possibly to the people around them I.e family or close friends.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: yazher on May 18, 2021, 12:39:22 PM
~snip~

Gambling is condemned or even considered a great sin in many religions such as Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism and others. So I am not surprised that in most cases gambling is portrayed in a negative light.  

In some countries, they also banned it and others only allowed some other kind of gambling like lotteries because their alibi is the money they get from it will go to charities in any part of the country. But the other people in those countries will make their own gambling activities even though their government doesn't permit it. That's why even though it would not make any sense, they will let the spider fight each other on the stick just to have something to bet to. if it's not addiction, I don't know what they called it.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: slaman29 on May 18, 2021, 12:47:20 PM
I noticed the same, the topics about negative side effects of gambling grew a lot over the last few months. The main reason behind is that probably more people got into gambling since the corona pandemic. With a higher number of gamblers we will also see more people who lose, even though the chances of losing or didn't really change. Also I think that people have a little bit more time at the moment due do home office and less outdoor activities, so we can talk about our gambling experiences. On top of that is the need to talk to about gambling stronger when we lose than when we are winning. In my culture we tend to be more secretive about money and wouldn't really share with others if we won.

It's quite natural I think, people have spent most of their lives online in regular times, and even more so during lockdown period since last year. Unfortunately, I guess more people gambling (and speculating on crypto haha) and not controlling themselves. Like you said, chances of losing never changes, just more people acting irrational increased.

Same culture as here then. You don't tell anyone you won big unless you want to get robbed or contacted by long lost friends.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: michellee on May 18, 2021, 01:00:45 PM
Gambling its like habits some people concern it as bad habbits or for some people who are really religous tought gambling also restricted in many religion. but still everybody had different mindset about it as long they only saying it without doing any act against law i think its totally fine.
People should not use gambling as a habit because that can make them in trouble if they do not have control. But we can not blame them because that will make their decision to play gambling and spend much money as we are not responsible for their money. But we can suggest they not stay at the gambling place for such a long time because that can make them play gambling games longer than others.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: AmoreJaz on May 18, 2021, 01:02:03 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.
to keep people from being inspired from all the stories about winning in gambling and to hopefully scare them enough to start gambling or at least be cautious about the dangers of gambling. gambling is a dangerous game, hobby, or profession (whatever you like to call them) that could destroy the lives of a person and families. and besides what do you think would be the percentage between the people who won in gambling that changed or help their lives to the ones that lost and destroyed or made lives harder because of losing in gambling?

To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.
I'd say the first one. gambling can have devastating consequences to the gambler and possibly to the people around them I.e family or close friends.

let us admit the fact that once a gambler becomes addicted, the consequences are really not good, not good for him and not good for his immediate family. very few can emerge victorious in this game and this can ruin the life of those that can't control anymore their gambling habits. gambling is a good source of entertainment if you know how to handle yourself esp when it comes to financial aspect. but as you go deep in this game, that's when the problem starts to unravel.
this is why the media don't want it to promote in a positive light, as it may perceive in wrong point of view.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: leea-1334 on May 18, 2021, 01:06:11 PM
Because there are too few of a winners compared to losers in gambling, also gambling isn't a healthy habit to have since it is a vice and it can be addicting. The motive behind the campaign is that they want to help people deter from possibility of gambling addiction.

It is not a simple straightforward thing as "too few winners compared to losers" because in that case any type of money business would be illegal (even trading, which statistically has more losers than winners).

It's more about the addiction issues like any other vice, and perhaps,,, religious aspects from some quarters.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: AicecreaME on May 18, 2021, 02:40:30 PM
Sadly, gambling always sees as a negative thing on the community because of people getting addicted to it, on how they lose their sanity as well as their families. But in my opinion, gambling shouldn't be blame on this, because it is our decision to play or not to play gambling, to risk or not to risk our money, simple as that. The only reason why Government is giving gambling industry a hard time because of those people that are not being responsible to themselves.

If you're playing gambling and lost your money as well as your will on living, please blame yourself because of being too careless to think what lies ahead in your future while playing gambling. Playing gambling doesn't mean you're gonna win every time you'll place a bet, it's like a wheel that sometimes you're on the top, and sometimes you're below.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Lakai01 on May 18, 2021, 03:15:36 PM
Addiction should be the focus and not the gambling
-snip-
I think that's a bit short-sighted if you relate such anti-gambling campaigns only to preventing addictions. If that were the case, there would have to be massive campaigns against everything else that could be addictive, e.g. alcohol, cigarettes, the use of smartphones, ...

Anti-gambling campaigns usually target a branch that does not bring revenue to the state: Illegal gambling. You will hardly find campaigns against "traditional" gambling, especially in western countries, because the state earns too much money with it.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: bitzizzix on May 18, 2021, 03:56:08 PM
Sadly, gambling always sees as a negative thing on the community because of people getting addicted to it, on how they lose their sanity as well as their families. But in my opinion, gambling shouldn't be blame on this, because it is our decision to play or not to play gambling, to risk or not to risk our money, simple as that. The only reason why Government is giving gambling industry a hard time because of those people that are not being responsible to themselves.

If you're playing gambling and lost your money as well as your will on living, please blame yourself because of being too careless to think what lies ahead in your future while playing gambling. Playing gambling doesn't mean you're gonna win every time you'll place a bet, it's like a wheel that sometimes you're on the top, and sometimes you're below.
Gambling is always viewed negatively because there will be more losses than profits and there are still many negative sides that can harm players and even cause death.
in fact it is their right to do so and should run the risk of engaging in gambling for too long or becoming addicted because anything can be done beyond common sense.
and the reason the government makes it difficult for the gambling industry is because their uncontrolled actions can commit criminal acts or anything that can harm other people as well as themselves.
and in my opinion entering the gambling industry also requires intelligence, knowledge and maturity to control it, in contrast to those who are ignorant who have nothing to control it.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: acener on May 18, 2021, 05:04:42 PM
I think it is due to the number of actual winners who are willing to share their stories,
And of course they also know the risk and doesn't want to be the reason of someone else misfortune on gambling since their stories could attract others to play and try their luck.
And of course they might also be thinking about how others would react to their story they might get negative comments out of it compared to those who would write a story about how they lost on gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: justdimin on May 18, 2021, 05:10:35 PM
There are always big losers and big winners in every industry. And don't understand why gambling is being painted in a light where only the big losers are acknowledged.
Big losers and winners may happen only under PvP environment but most gambling are being played in PvH manner. So, there would be plenty of chances for seeing losers alone as houses are the ultimate winner in the end. Never believe into gambling house's promotions on big winning; because, most of the times those winners are fake or inside people.

Fantasy sports is illegal in my US state.
That must be a gift for you from your responsible government.

whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions.
If you consider media or this community or your neighbor/friend, all will share about negatives of gambling but only casinos will share about big wins. From this, realize who will probably lie.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: avikz on May 18, 2021, 05:11:37 PM
It's more of a social taboo in majority of the countries rather than an organized campaign. Gambling is seen in a bad light due to the social and religious structure, especially in poor countries. The same goes with alcohol as well and again due to the social and religious structure in many countries.

But gambling addiction is real. I have seen people lost crazy amount of money and then got into debt trap due to their gambling addiction. So we shouldn't take that aspect lightly.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: YOSHIE on May 18, 2021, 07:06:57 PM
The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.
I assume that every gambling addict / bettor has different types of actions and is motivated differently to determine win and lose, negative and positive.

Example:
• Gambling addicts sometimes have what is called a 'chase target'. These addicts generally don't want to publish wins and losses, they win small amounts stop playing and continue the next day.
• The next type is' amateurs or hobbies emotional / angry, this type they like to make trouble if they lose spreading negative news to gambling sites if they lose and if they win this kind of addict will cover up their winnings.
• and the other type is 'Serious but Relaxed' addicts who have this type they can't guess, win and lose, only those who know.

Out of the three characters / types of gambling addicts, I don't think all gambling bettors will complain negatively if they lose, partly as I mentioned.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: carlfebz2 on May 18, 2021, 07:13:28 PM
I think it is due to the number of actual winners who are willing to share their stories,
And of course they also know the risk and doesn't want to be the reason of someone else misfortune on gambling since their stories could attract others to play and try their luck.
And of course they might also be thinking about how others would react to their story they might get negative comments out of it compared to those who would write a story about how they lost on gambling.
Not only basing up with the number which would really be less knowing that gambling does generate lots of losers that winners thats why it isnt surprising that we would see lots of
wrecked up life stories compared to those who had been profitable or make some considerable wins.

Of course for privacy purposes they wont really be sharing it up plus also not all would really be that something open to share up in regards to that manner.

Gambling does always have negative impression and its true that this neither be in religious or social aspects but actually im not really that against though.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: BITCOIN4X on May 18, 2021, 07:37:31 PM
What I can understand from this anti-gambling campaign aims to increase public awareness of avoiding gambling by providing fact about the problems that gambling often causes. This can be done to reduce the number of problem gamblers who fail to control their time and money for gambling. Gambling that crosses financial boundaries has created huge problem for gamblers as well as for the government and that is the reason why the anti-gambling campaign is being carried out imo.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Fortify on May 18, 2021, 07:46:54 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.


I see very little negativity about gambling in this section, quite the opposite in fact with 95% of people happily making predictions and recommendations. That should never hide the fact that gambling is a business, a business is designed to make money for it's owners and that requires making money from customers. If you're playing certain games like slots or roulette you are mathematically destined to hand all your money over to the house in the long run. You might be able to get a slight edge in sports betting, but gaming institutions taking the other side of the best generally have more information to make informed decisions. Ultimately gambling has one underlying theme that a lot of people cannot admit to themselves - that they are generally bad at calculating the correct odds. Those who are good at calculating odds will generally gravitate to games like poker or blackjack where they might be able to scrape out a living, but even that is a super competitive market. It's not being negative, it is being realistic.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: LTU_btc on May 18, 2021, 08:11:49 PM
Personally, I would put gambling advertising in the same place as alcochol advertisements. It shouldn't be banned, but there should warnings about potential dangers of it. These things is fun when everything is controlled, but when it turns into addiction, it's big issue. Yeah, some people win, some even win millions, but in reality, majority simply lose money. People lose homes, jobs, families because gambling addiction. There is no need to look into gambling through rose-tinted glasses. Banning of it isn't solution, advertising also shouldn't be forbidden, but there should be warnings and some social respinsibility.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Hydrogen on May 18, 2021, 10:58:06 PM
I don't know about gambling addiction. Discussion on the topic sounds like an origins story of prohibition to me. The idea that people cannot make good decisions with alcohol, gambling or guns. And that the state should naturally take those freedoms and choices away from people. Is that something that most agree with? I don't agree with simply banning things due to the lowest common denominator of people failing to make responsible choices. For those who support marijuana legalization, isn't the reason for it being banned virtually identical to the anti gambling push being made now?

There definitely are people who consistently profit from fantasy sports and gambling. Most keep a low profile and don't talk about their winnings. They don't want recognition or attention. They simply want to keep making money.

I'm still not seeing much of a difference between gambling, lotteries and stock markets.

Quote
Bill Hwang lost $8 billion in 10 days during the Archegos meltdown, reports say

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/bill-hwang-lost-8-billion-during-archegos-meltdown-reports-say-2021-4-1030272030

This man lost billions on the stock market.

Where are news stories and experts condemning stock market gambling addiction?

....

I'm certain there are people who make bad choices in gambling who are addicted. It could be fair to say, those people have problems that go far beyond gambling or addiction.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: harizen on May 18, 2021, 11:16:29 PM
This man lost billions on the stock market.

Where are news stories and experts condemning stock market gambling addiction?

What's the follow-up story to this after losing? How does that man deal with his loss? Did he become crazy? bullish*t? an assh*le? theft? irresponsible person?

In gambling, even losing $50-$100 can turn a person into crazy and wild behavior that's why we can fairly say that gambling needs more to be paid attention in terms of advertising prevention or safety, at least, than anything else. Imagine, with just a low amount, a person can start gambling unlike in stocks that aside you need some capital, you need to learn first the basics which are boring to others. Comparing losing in stocks to the usual gambling is somehow not appropriate as they have different natures and how people risking money at both.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: xSkylarx on May 18, 2021, 11:30:21 PM
To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

On the other side, if media shows many people have won in gambling and were able to change their life for the better, this will just attract more people to try their luck into gambling. Some of those people could ruin their life if they got addicted and went into debt. Not all people can be successful in the gambling industry, those who make it a living have a good discipline either if they win or lose and they have a stable source of income not just a day job. People who ruin their life in gambling are often desperate to earn more money because their job is not enough to provide for their responsibilities.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Saint-loup on May 18, 2021, 11:37:45 PM
I think the sad truth is, people who lose big money gambling. Are the same people who would lose big money investing in the stock market. Some demographics simply don't make good financial decisions. There are always big losers and big winners in every industry. And don't understand why gambling is being painted in a light where only the big losers are acknowledged.
No I disagree with you. Unless you don't believe in chance/randomness and you think some people will have bad luck whatever they will do and others will have good luck whatever they will do, you can't say people will always have the same odds to win and lose in different games.
Even in skill games, different games require different faculties, so odds to win won't be the same for a same player at all these games.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: chaser15 on May 19, 2021, 12:20:21 AM
What's the motive behind the anti-gambling campaign wherein, on the other hand, losing in a stock market isn't having the same anti-gambling campaign as common gambling?

Good topic but there are misunderstandings. It's no secret that there are lots of gamblers who already become out of their mind when they lose in gambling. The reason for this is, it's so easy to play gambling that even kids can play any time they want. Physical casinos especially mid-tier ones don't have any requirements before you can play as long as you have money on hand. Learning the interface in terms of online gambling is also easy to learn. You also don't need to be a technical person just to start playing gambling compare to stocks that knowledge is necessary.

Those conveniences are the reason why there are more people in gambling compare to stocks so it needs a hard anti-gambling campaign. There are also lots of users who lose in stocks but it's far more educational so there's no discouragement to enter stocks as long as people understand the disclaimers and risks associated with it.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: romero121 on May 19, 2021, 01:24:57 AM
I think the sad truth is, people who lose big money gambling. Are the same people who would lose big money investing in the stock market. Some demographics simply don't make good financial decisions. There are always big losers and big winners in every industry. And don't understand why gambling is being painted in a light where only the big losers are acknowledged.
No I disagree with you. Unless you don't believe in chance/randomness and you think some people will have bad luck whatever they will do and others will have good luck whatever they will do, you can't say people will always have the same odds to win and lose in different games.
Even in skill games, different games require different faculties, so odds to win won't be the same for a same player at all these games.
This is true, but if the gambler isn't same then the outcome will be the same in all games. OP has associated gambling with investment stock losses. That can't be compared, because with stocks we can make closer prediction and choose the right one for investment. Trusted investments never give massive losses as the one gamblers experience due to the loss of self control.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: lienfaye on May 19, 2021, 02:17:21 AM
Well we know that if we're talking about gambling some people has a bad impression in it because of what it can cause to a person's life if he became addicted. Unlike if you lose in stocks or in any investment opportunity out there wherein you can handle it alone if you know what you're getting into. While gambling addictions are somehow different because of the emotions and the fact that you can lose your money in snap and the chance to win is more on luck. I believe the reason behind this campaign/advertisement is to spread awareness of the worst that you might end up if you gamble, and to warn people that it cant do anything good for us to engage ourselves.

To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.
I dont think the latter is the reason. As I've said I think the purpose is to warn the people and to prevent them from losing their hard-earned money.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 19, 2021, 02:21:41 AM
Religious conservatives have a lot of political power, disproportionate to their actual population size. We always see them pushing these negative narratives around things which they find morally unacceptable. We rarely see people who are willing to counter against them so the moral crusaders end up getting their way more often than not.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Fredomago on May 19, 2021, 03:17:33 AM

On the other side, if media shows many people have won in gambling and were able to change their life for the better, this will just attract more people to try their luck into gambling.
For sure, as there are lots of people who wanted to make an easy access, thinking positively that they'll be able to make the same fate with those gamblers who won out from this business.

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Some of those people could ruin their life if they got addicted and went into debt. Not all people can be successful in the gambling industry, those who make it a living have a good discipline either if they win or lose and they have a stable source of income not just a day job.
More on the negative side, the percentage of those successful gamblers are far lesser than those who unable to manage addictions, people who loves taking the shortcut mostly leads their money into regretful journey, some ends up with heavy addictions.

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People who ruin their life in gambling are often desperate to earn more money because their job is not enough to provide for their responsibilities.
Desperate to make it more quicker but not because of their salary is not enough, contentment is very important factors to avoid addictions, most of them are gamblers who have control problems, they keep pushing without limiting both their target for losses and winnings


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Alisha-k on May 19, 2021, 05:11:42 AM
I think the media making negative publicity about gambling is to sensitise people on fiat management. Because when it comes to gambling a whole lot of persons don't have self control and decipline and as such risk more than the can afford to loose. Gambling still has it's positive attributes but shouldn't be over risked since it remains a game of probability


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Kakmakr on May 19, 2021, 05:29:05 AM
The media will always look for some controversial angle to any subject to get maximum viewership or subscriptions, so they do not care about the positive side of a subject.. because that does not sell subscriptions or news papers.  ;)  ( I know this, because I have a family member that are working in this field )

Also, let's be objective and admit that the majority of people do not make a profit at casinos and that gambling addiction are a reality for a lot of people.   :(  (The media will focus on that and not on the 1000s of people that won millions and those who had a life changing experience)  >:(


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on May 19, 2021, 06:18:37 AM
Gambling is a vice and a lot of people lose their financial stability with gambling and studies have showed that gambling has negatvie effects to players, so I think that it is enough reason why they have an antagonistic image towards gambling which doesn't obviously work since they don't tackle the problem personally.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: michellee on May 19, 2021, 08:30:53 AM
Religious conservatives have a lot of political power, disproportionate to their actual population size. We always see them pushing these negative narratives around things which they find morally unacceptable. We rarely see people who are willing to counter against them so the moral crusaders end up getting their way more often than not.
The religious conservatives will against gambling games because that is related to the forbidden thing in their religion. They can force the political people who have the power to prohibit gambling games. But the most reason why gambling games are prohibited is that playing gambling can make people addicted to gambling, people will lose their money if they can not control it, and people can ruin their lives.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: slaman29 on May 19, 2021, 11:41:04 AM
It's more of a social taboo in majority of the countries rather than an organized campaign. Gambling is seen in a bad light due to the social and religious structure, especially in poor countries. The same goes with alcohol as well and again due to the social and religious structure in many countries.

But gambling addiction is real. I have seen people lost crazy amount of money and then got into debt trap due to their gambling addiction. So we shouldn't take that aspect lightly.

Definitely more of a social taboo in a lot of countries and I can attest to this myself. It used to be about religion, but today people are more relaxed about it but still in some sections, gambling is seen as an activity only a certain type of people do and it's not a very positive connotation.

But it all does stem from addiction and the press also makes big stories around crimes or tragedies linked to gambling addiction.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: abel1337 on May 19, 2021, 12:32:44 PM
Religious conservatives have a lot of political power, disproportionate to their actual population size. We always see them pushing these negative narratives around things which they find morally unacceptable. We rarely see people who are willing to counter against them so the moral crusaders end up getting their way more often than not.
The religious conservatives will against gambling games because that is related to the forbidden thing in their religion. They can force the political people who have the power to prohibit gambling games. But the most reason why gambling games are prohibited is that playing gambling can make people addicted to gambling, people will lose their money if they can not control it, and people can ruin their lives.
Religion is one of the major groups that oppose gambling as far as I know. We can't blame them because it is their religion but if they employed it into their whole country, Other religions will be affected since the law will be the one who will stop them from playing. Most vices have the possibility to make you addicted to them, Gambling is one of those vices. Self-control and Limitation is the best way to make yourself not addicted to it. It will only be dangerous if you can't control yourself from it.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Cling18 on May 19, 2021, 01:26:06 PM
To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

On the other side, if media shows many people have won in gambling and were able to change their life for the better, this will just attract more people to try their luck into gambling. Some of those people could ruin their life if they got addicted and went into debt. Not all people can be successful in the gambling industry, those who make it a living have a good discipline either if they win or lose and they have a stable source of income not just a day job. People who ruin their life in gambling are often desperate to earn more money because their job is not enough to provide for their responsibilities.

The media is just putting the consequences of too much gambling publicly that has different interpretations for most people. It is actually the gamblers who are addicted to it who are ruining their lives by risking everything that they have in gambling and not gambling itself. Gambling was originally made for entertainment but lots of people see it as a shortcut to success which is really risky. As for me, if a person has self-control and self-discipline, gambling wouldn't be a life treat.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Rengga Jati on May 19, 2021, 02:52:07 PM
It may be because of the negative impacts of gambling happened in society. And most people who got the impacts will also get worse condition and related to crimes.
Well, actually this should not be linked to this thing, however, it may happen often in society.
Gambling is also forbidden by some religions, societies, and also countries because of the negative effects. The impacts may not happen to all people. It may only happen to those who are really not able to control and have good management in funds and risks in gambling. So, they cannot control themselves when playing gambling and betting.

Life is so complex where there are many people who like gambling but also many who hate gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: uneng on May 19, 2021, 03:59:25 PM
Religious conservatives have a lot of political power, disproportionate to their actual population size. We always see them pushing these negative narratives around things which they find morally unacceptable. We rarely see people who are willing to counter against them so the moral crusaders end up getting their way more often than not.
Many religious representatives are against gambling, because in countries where gambling is legal people may launder money through gambling instead of laundering money donating to their churches and organizations. It makes the religious' income decrease.

On the other hand, the anti-gambling agenda isn't exclusivity of religious segments, because the liberal media is also totally against it. In fact, many conservatives and leftists are against gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: dothebeats on May 19, 2021, 04:26:04 PM
Maybe because the true winners are very few and far between?

But even so, I agree that the negative connotation about gambling shouldn't be always brought forth, only when necessary and trying to warn others. It brings food to a lot of tables at the expense of the money of those willing to lose it for the entertainment. Plus, the gambling industry also contribute millions, if not billions, to economies worldwide. While I get that people are trying to bring gambling to a negative light, at the end of the day, we are addicted to some forms of entertainment, to which gambling falls into as well.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Silberman on May 19, 2021, 04:49:43 PM
I think the sad truth is, people who lose big money gambling. Are the same people who would lose big money investing in the stock market. Some demographics simply don't make good financial decisions. There are always big losers and big winners in every industry. And don't understand why gambling is being painted in a light where only the big losers are acknowledged.

Fantasy sports is illegal in my US state. This may deprive me of options and opportunities to make money and profit.

To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.
You bring a point that I have always believed, even if gambling was completely forbidden then those that were addicted to gambling or lost a fortune on the games will just lose that money and become addicted to something else, as you say there is a group of people that no matter how much you try to protect are going to lose their money anyways, in which case it is better to allow gambling and let the rest of the people to enjoy the activity and generate taxes out of it.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: worle1bm on May 19, 2021, 05:20:56 PM
When people take gambling too personally and become quite addictive they tend to loose more than they afford to do so and later on we see such campaign set out for awareness by the same individual or community who shares similar exposure.We have seen Gambling Self exculsion programs have seen sudden increase in number of users.Why? Just because people are becoming addictive to Gambling and losing more they are winning but they can't stop themselves from betting and enroll for such schemes to stop them from further loss.Same is the case with this anti gambling campaign which aware players about gambling addiction and tell that house benefits more you loose or bet upto certain limit for entertainment purposes.Dont make gambling your permanent source of income as it is variable and can end you in worse situation as we have seen in many cases.You are just betting your money I hope of getting of more but it's not investment that will yeild returns but luck based where you win more or loose all your funds.So be sure before entering.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: iv4n on May 19, 2021, 06:27:51 PM
Well, what's behind the anti-alcohol and anti-drug campaigns?! Probably the same thing that's behind the anti-gambling campaign!

I think there's more than one reason for that... and most of the reasons are already mentioned already! I guess the point is simple to understand, all anti focuses on bad sides! While users are focused on the good sides!
So we come to an old fact, every coin has two sides! So there should be some balance, we need to have some control if we want to last... if we want to do something in the long run! At the moment when we lost control over things we do, it's the moment when problems start coming! But many don't know how to do that, so they get into the problem, and that problem grows and hurts everyone who is close! Those who are hurt start to hate the vice that caused all the problems in their life! And they can be very passionate about that! We can't blame them for that, they are the ones who got hurt...

Now I am a gambler and many other things... for sure! But I know my limits and my chances, nobody around me suffers from my bad side! Most of the people don't even know about that! :)


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Fatunad on May 19, 2021, 07:31:48 PM
Religious conservatives have a lot of political power, disproportionate to their actual population size. We always see them pushing these negative narratives around things which they find morally unacceptable. We rarely see people who are willing to counter against them so the moral crusaders end up getting their way more often than not.
The religious conservatives will against gambling games because that is related to the forbidden thing in their religion. They can force the political people who have the power to prohibit gambling games. But the most reason why gambling games are prohibited is that playing gambling can make people addicted to gambling, people will lose their money if they can not control it, and people can ruin their lives.
Excluding religious aspects when it comes to banning is that there are certain governments does really mind about their citizens and doesnt really mind about revenue or taxation
made out by these companies or simply on the entire industry where we do know that gambling can generate huge income and of course when it comes to tax they would really
be a big contributor but these type of government is really a bit rare or small in numbers and majority of them would really mind off about progress of their country via
tax rather than on minding with their citizens addiction probability.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Goodluckmate.com on May 19, 2021, 07:50:35 PM
As I've been working in the industry for many years now, I'd say that all these stories exist for several reasons:
1. News sites use them as clickbait articles. Everyone wants a sob story and everyone feels superior when they read about someone who made such terrible mistakes. So, I believe that such articles bring lots of traffic and engagement.
2. It's a way gambling authorities use to warn customers of the possible harms of gambling. And I agree that this can be a dangerous hobby, but honestly I also think that every hobby can be expensive. I have a friend who's constantly buying some limited edition books and expensive board games. Some of those cost like $200-$300 and he has at least 50 board games. He doesn't even play most of them. In gambling, you at least have a chance to win something I guess. This is just dead money sitting on a shelf.
3. Religious and social taboo. This was mentioned by many, so no need to further expand on it.
4. There are much more unhappy stories than happy ones. Though, if you follow iGaming news, you'd know that there are actually frequent juicy wins. They just don't reach mainstream media as often.

I don't personally think it's to prevent people from making money by becoming smart gamblers. Most people don't even believe that someone can become rich from gambling. Plus, this strategy wouldn't make sense for operators as they make money anyway. So, I'd say the reasons listed above are the primary ones for the bad reputation of gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: paxmao on May 19, 2021, 10:20:35 PM
For every upside there is a downside. The upside of playing is quite clear: makes life more interesting and sports - even those that are quite slow in nature - more fun to watch. However, you wont see in the news nor in any statistic how much fun people had gambling or how much money some of them made (other than lotteries) but rather stories about how a poor guy gets hooked on the game and does something stupid - and my guess is that it rarely is the only really stupid thing they have probably done in their lives.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: michellee on May 20, 2021, 05:53:28 AM
Religion is one of the major groups that oppose gambling as far as I know. We can't blame them because it is their religion but if they employed it into their whole country, Other religions will be affected since the law will be the one who will stop them from playing. Most vices have the possibility to make you addicted to them, Gambling is one of those vices. Self-control and Limitation is the best way to make yourself not addicted to it. It will only be dangerous if you can't control yourself from it.
That is because there is a prohibition from their religion about playing gambling. But for the other, playing gambling will not be a problem and we can see that many people are still playing gambling.

Only self-control and limitations will help a gambler not spend more money and will have a chance to stay away from the addiction. We hope that we do not be one of the gamblers addicted to gambling that can not solve their problem.

Excluding religious aspects when it comes to banning is that there are certain governments does really mind about their citizens and doesnt really mind about revenue or taxation
made out by these companies or simply on the entire industry where we do know that gambling can generate huge income and of course when it comes to tax they would really
be a big contributor but these type of government is really a bit rare or small in numbers and majority of them would really mind off about progress of their country via
tax rather than on minding with their citizens addiction probability.
That government does not want to against the religious leaders by approving the gambling and make gambling their income. They will search for other ways that can give them new income for their country. The government does not want to see the number of the addicted gambling in their country increase, especially in this pandemic, because the people already suffer and need money. If people can stay away from gambling in this pandemic, they will have a chance to fill their daily needs without spending money on gambling games.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Wexnident on May 20, 2021, 06:10:21 AM
Religion is one of the major groups that oppose gambling as far as I know. We can't blame them because it is their religion but if they employed it into their whole country, Other religions will be affected since the law will be the one who will stop them from playing. Most vices have the possibility to make you addicted to them, Gambling is one of those vices. Self-control and Limitation is the best way to make yourself not addicted to it. It will only be dangerous if you can't control yourself from it.
If you were to compare drug addiction to other types of addiction (like gaming), it seems lenient enough, but drugs induce addiction to you, gambling on the other hand is you inducing yourself to addiction, plainly speaking, it's one's own fault, without any external influence, if he gets addicted to gambling. That's what makes gambling different from those types since gambling addiction is solely your own fault imo.

Excluding religious aspects when it comes to banning is that there are certain governments does really mind about their citizens and doesnt really mind about revenue or taxation
made out by these companies or simply on the entire industry where we do know that gambling can generate huge income and of course when it comes to tax they would really
be a big contributor but these type of government is really a bit rare or small in numbers and majority of them would really mind off about progress of their country via
tax rather than on minding with their citizens addiction probability.
I'm of the mind that regulating something instead of completely banning it is much more effective in controlling everyone who wants to actually do, well, whatever that regulated thing is, in this case, gambling. Banning gambling just gives rise to below-the-scenes development of, well surprise surprise, gambling dens themselves. It's just plain stupid imo.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: famososMuertos on May 20, 2021, 07:23:47 AM
Currently the media, even digital, stay away from the betting industry for various reasons, but it is not zero Exposure, something is sometimes said in some newscasts.

In Spain when Adrian Matteos was breaking it in poker it was news, in traditional media, TV, Press, radio and an obvious presence on the Internet.
Some lotteries when a jackpot has a winner they mention it.

In fact in days gone by on the Today Show they showed a person winning a jackpot in an airport machine, I think it was $ 250,000 while he was  playing slots waiting for a delayed flight.

In short, there is a premise in the marketing world that says "there is no bad publicity."

In my case, I do keep up to date with the good vibes that there is in relation to the betting ecosystem, fortunately there is a lot of positive information.

I think the best situation is to keep up to date with portals that have an adequate news balance.

Finally it is something more about perception of the "environment" where you are; persons, Tv, what you read.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Kittygalore on May 20, 2021, 11:05:09 AM
The motive is to reduce gambling addictions and sometimes drug or alcohol abuse associated with gambling and I think that that is the core motive in anti-gambling campaigns, I think that what they are doing is a noble thing to do because it helps that a lot of people know the effects which is mostly negative that gambling has.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Botnake on May 20, 2021, 12:44:03 PM
I don't respect people who are anti-gambling as I myself am a gambler, that's an insult to me.

The problem here is not gambling, but it's the gambler who lacks knowledge as they become irresponsible in gambling.
When we lose money in gambling, it's not gambling that should be blamed, but us, because we are the ones who is managing ourselves.

haven't we thought that the gambling industry is also contributing taxes to the government we all benefit from?

If we don't know that, then there's no surprise we will hate gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: slaman29 on May 20, 2021, 12:49:44 PM
Maybe because the true winners are very few and far between?

But even so, I agree that the negative connotation about gambling shouldn't be always brought forth, only when necessary and trying to warn others. It brings food to a lot of tables at the expense of the money of those willing to lose it for the entertainment. Plus, the gambling industry also contribute millions, if not billions, to economies worldwide. While I get that people are trying to bring gambling to a negative light, at the end of the day, we are addicted to some forms of entertainment, to which gambling falls into as well.

True winners are definitely few. And of the few, very very few are winners in the true gambling sense (that they gambled and won a lot of money from pure luck and chance). Of the few, majority are professional gamblers who make a living out of gambling. They don't really need to win a lot, they just to entertain a lot. For example, poker players and even slots streamers and such;)


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: zanezane on May 20, 2021, 01:00:28 PM
I don't respect people who are anti-gambling as I myself am a gambler, that's an insult to me.

The problem here is not gambling, but it's the gambler who lacks knowledge as they become irresponsible in gambling.
When we lose money in gambling, it's not gambling that should be blamed, but us, because we are the ones who is managing ourselves.

haven't we thought that the gambling industry is also contributing taxes to the government we all benefit from?

If we don't know that, then there's no surprise we will hate gambling.
Why would it affect you though? You are just a player and most anti-gambling campaigns are targeted mostly on the gambling businesses that profits out of the "irresponsible" gamblers that you are saying. The taxes that the gambling industry is heavily written off so I don't think that we are going to be happy about that too.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: aysg76 on May 20, 2021, 01:13:13 PM
Whenever there is popularity of some business in the market there are people who unnecessarily wants to blame them or mostly online communities just need another topic of discussion by starting a campaign.The gambling industry is on the verge of rising and so called gambling addicts are increasing but players need to control their playing habits to a particular extent in which they lose upto some extent.So there are so much alcohol addicts or say drug addicts but still they are openly being traded in the market in sight of government and they earn revenue from them.House has always on the profit side from the beginning and specified in their terms and conditions for legit casinos.You win you are happy and after you lose you blame others for the same.Check probably fair script and reviews on BTCGosu site for it.Your life should not overflowed with any kind of negative addiction that could ruin your social as well as personal life.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: dezoel on May 20, 2021, 06:44:23 PM
I don't think there is any motive behind the anti-gambling campaign. There are lots of gamblers who have thrown away their life after losing a big amount and there is s serious need to educate such gamblers to ensure the deaths don't keep coming. Gambling addiction is often times seen as a joke and people would laugh if someone tells them they are going through a problem with gambling.

While we don't discuss winners because all those winners at some point will throw their money back to the casino slowly but surely. There is a house edge that comes with every game and hence theoretically you cannot win against the house so don't consider gambling as a means of earning money. I am not saying gambling is wrong at all, I myself gamble, but there is a need to make sure we are gambling for fun and within our limits.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: iamsheikhadil on May 20, 2021, 06:46:34 PM
I don't think the anti-gambling movement or what you say is doing anything wrong, honestly.

You just can't compare gambling to any other job, a guy who maybe a big loser in gambling can be quite productive worker and can earn good money by hard work. It's not at all good to compare them, because they aren't even the same. It's so gross to generalize a loser in gambling= a loser in real world!

Gambling has destructive conclusions and many, millions of people lose family, money, respect and many even commit suicide and hence many countries has made it illegal as well.

Obviously it is a negative thing, you just can't say it's a good thing because you think it's good and easy way to make money? It's not lol, even when you win big, you will simply lose it all at the end because of our human all-time greedy nature, and almost all religions as well consider it a sin.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Ryker1 on May 20, 2021, 09:54:53 PM
I don't respect people who are anti-gambling as I myself am a gambler, that's an insult to me.
Well, just because we think that they criticize us.
However, it is simple, these people can’t make profits from gambling and actually lost enough funds that make them do what they do which is to go against gambling. Honestly, gambling consequences are well declared, --risks are set and so is the winning. But I think these people can’t accept the fact that they lost some and this is the only way they can pressure their resentments. Little did they know, these platforms are owned by big persons who do not give a damn about them. All they care about is to earn money and clean the other’s money within their platform.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: crzy on May 20, 2021, 10:21:24 PM
To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.
They are just educating people on the possible scenario if they become addict in gambling, and we cannot say its a lie simply because there are so many gamblers who took their lives because of being addict in gambling. We know that we can get money in gambling but there's no guarantee on that, you as yourself should always know your limit and understand that gambling is not a great source of income, it can eat you alive.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: DoublerHunter on May 20, 2021, 10:25:23 PM
To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.
They are just educating people on the possible scenario if they become addict in gambling, and we cannot say its a lie simply because there are so many gamblers who took their lives because of being addict in gambling. We know that we can get money in gambling but there's no guarantee on that, you as yourself should always know your limit and understand that gambling is not a great source of income, it can eat you alive.
^ This is how it goes and we all know it. Just because others are being profitable, does not mean it's enough to convince the crowd. We should understand that these people who are against gambling lost some of their valuable things with them. And some of them also lost people they loved because of gambling. But it does not mean you have to be affected by this. Those people knew the consequences and the risk of gambling. I think you are fine.
No need to oppose their campaign and enjoy your profits alone.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Johnyz on May 20, 2021, 10:32:29 PM
To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.
They are just educating people on the possible scenario if they become addict in gambling, and we cannot say its a lie simply because there are so many gamblers who took their lives because of being addict in gambling. We know that we can get money in gambling but there's no guarantee on that, you as yourself should always know your limit and understand that gambling is not a great source of income, it can eat you alive.
^ This is how it goes and we all know it. Just because others are being profitable, does not mean it's enough to convince the crowd. We should understand that these people who are against gambling lost some of their valuable things with them. And some of them also lost people they loved because of gambling. But it does not mean you have to be affected by this. Those people knew the consequences and the risk of gambling. I think you are fine.
No need to oppose their campaign and enjoy your profits alone.
That campaign is great to spread awareness, because gambling is only for those who have extra money and afford to lose it, ordinary people should not depend on their luck in gambling, that’s too risky. I have a friend who sold his own car because of gambling, he undergoes to rehabilitation and fortunately he’s fine now. Just enjoy gambling and yes, always have time limit on playing and practice budgeting.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: just_Alice on May 20, 2021, 10:36:37 PM
I think the fact is, that while the chances of winning and losing in gambling (not counting house edge) are the same, the problem is with the limited funds, that's why it seems as if people lose more than win.
For instance, a gambler plays and keeps winning, sometimes losing, and, over time, he increases the bet to make more profit, and it goes higher and higher when at some point, they lose everything without the ability to recoup. That's why they make a conclusion and write a post about losing all the money. However, possibly, had they placed one more bet - they could've won. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. The only way of avoiding this and still enjoy gambling is making small bets and never increasing them in the chase for big money.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Saisher on May 20, 2021, 10:44:58 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.



Because there are more losers than winners and gambling is luck based and this is not a place to make money, people are showing the risk of gambling within their means because people are still not restricting themselves and go overboard and still chasing their losses which is one of the riskiest behavior in gambling, it's more of a warning than anti-gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: carlfebz2 on May 20, 2021, 10:48:21 PM
To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.
They are just educating people on the possible scenario if they become addict in gambling, and we cannot say its a lie simply because there are so many gamblers who took their lives because of being addict in gambling. We know that we can get money in gambling but there's no guarantee on that, you as yourself should always know your limit and understand that gambling is not a great source of income, it can eat you alive.
^ This is how it goes and we all know it. Just because others are being profitable, does not mean it's enough to convince the crowd. We should understand that these people who are against gambling lost some of their valuable things with them. And some of them also lost people they loved because of gambling. But it does not mean you have to be affected by this. Those people knew the consequences and the risk of gambling. I think you are fine.
No need to oppose their campaign and enjoy your profits alone.
That campaign is great to spread awareness, because gambling is only for those who have extra money and afford to lose it, ordinary people should not depend on their luck in gambling, that’s too risky. I have a friend who sold his own car because of gambling, he undergoes to rehabilitation and fortunately he’s fine now. Just enjoy gambling and yes, always have time limit on playing and practice budgeting.
Not that extra money but for those who do seek out for entertainment without minding much about their finances that would really be spent out and as long it would be in control or moderation
then it wont be much of a problem.

There are places or countries in the world which their government is really mindful about their citizens when it comes to particular things which do include out addiction.Theyre trying out to protect
on the chance on getting addicted and wreck up their lives because of it which is good.

If a country doesnt mind about revenue or tax that it gives then this would be the nearest possible reason on such anti gambling campaign.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: ralle14 on May 20, 2021, 10:57:44 PM
Why would it affect you though? You are just a player and most anti-gambling campaigns are targeted mostly on the gambling businesses that profits out of the "irresponsible" gamblers that you are saying. The taxes that the gambling industry is heavily written off so I don't think that we are going to be happy about that too.
Even if he's just a player it could still potentially affect him because just like what OP said the media focuses on the losers and it's only going to encourage the government to do something about it. While that's true the government are making money off gambling they will still look for ways to limit gambling when possible. Iirc Australia has one of the biggest average loss per gambler and they're starting to curb gambling by making it illegal.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: uneng on May 21, 2021, 12:04:10 AM
Why would it affect you though? You are just a player and most anti-gambling campaigns are targeted mostly on the gambling businesses that profits out of the "irresponsible" gamblers that you are saying. The taxes that the gambling industry is heavily written off so I don't think that we are going to be happy about that too.
Even if he's just a player it could still potentially affect him because just like what OP said the media focuses on the losers and it's only going to encourage the government to do something about it. While that's true the government are making money off gambling they will still look for ways to limit gambling when possible. Iirc Australia has one of the biggest average loss per gambler and they're starting to curb gambling by making it illegal.
Furthermore anti-gambling campaigns turn the common opinion of the society against gamblers. People start seeing them in a wrong way, as all gamblers were sick, irresponsible, mentally ill or unstable, because that is the portrait of gamblers exhibited in propagandas, movies, soap operas, news... When we see negative representations of gamblers' behavior on those campaigns, we never see an attached disclosure message pointing out that only a small percentage of total gamblers are actually problem gamblers. They represent the situation luring the public to believe every gamblers are addicted and impulsive individuals.

So it's accurate to suppose gamblers feel offended by such campaigns.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: $crypto$ on May 21, 2021, 01:26:14 AM
That campaign is great to spread awareness, because gambling is only for those who have extra money and afford to lose it, ordinary people should not depend on their luck in gambling, that’s too risky. I have a friend who sold his own car because of gambling, he undergoes to rehabilitation and fortunately he’s fine now. Just enjoy gambling and yes, always have time limit on playing and practice budgeting.
Maybe this is what a lot of people can't control from the anti gambling campaign so the government will have a survey of this bad impact and maybe the anti gambling campaign just wants to prevent the spread of addiction that continues to be experienced when the control is not controlled by oneself.
Indeed, in gambling, many are trapped, not only your friends, my brother is addicted so he has spent a lot of assets, including his real estate business, which was destroyed because gambling games could not recover, therefore the prohibition is not a problem so it is included in the regulation of how to do it applied, but for me stay calm in facing all this.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: peter0425 on May 21, 2021, 03:59:59 AM
Because there are too few of a winners compared to losers in gambling, also gambling isn't a healthy habit to have since it is a vice and it can be addicting. The motive behind the campaign is that they want to help people deter from possibility of gambling addiction.
I get your point and that is simply correct but also they are depriving people that want to gamble and want to spend their money legally .

becoming an addict in gambling is our own responsibility and stupidity , we must study first every details in what we are entering and this is how gamble must be treated .


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: michellee on May 21, 2021, 04:48:01 AM
That campaign is great to spread awareness, because gambling is only for those who have extra money and afford to lose it, ordinary people should not depend on their luck in gambling, that’s too risky. I have a friend who sold his own car because of gambling, he undergoes to rehabilitation and fortunately he’s fine now. Just enjoy gambling and yes, always have time limit on playing and practice budgeting.
Maybe this is what a lot of people can't control from the anti gambling campaign so the government will have a survey of this bad impact and maybe the anti gambling campaign just wants to prevent the spread of addiction that continues to be experienced when the control is not controlled by oneself.
Indeed, in gambling, many are trapped, not only your friends, my brother is addicted so he has spent a lot of assets, including his real estate business, which was destroyed because gambling games could not recover, therefore the prohibition is not a problem so it is included in the regulation of how to do it applied, but for me stay calm in facing all this.
If the government is concerned with their people and they see the number of addicted people increase to this pandemic, they need to do something to help them. They can use the anti-gambling campaign to make their people realize how dangerous gambling and what the impact that people will get in the future. Many people lose their control while playing gambling, but they do not realize that until someone tells them and asks them to get the test if they are addicted to gambling. We control ourselves and not controlled by gambling and we need to have self-control while playing gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Kasabus on May 21, 2021, 10:14:16 AM
Because there are too few of a winners compared to losers in gambling, also gambling isn't a healthy habit to have since it is a vice and it can be addicting. The motive behind the campaign is that they want to help people deter from possibility of gambling addiction.
I get your point and that is simply correct but also they are depriving people that want to gamble and want to spend their money legally .

becoming an addict in gambling is our own responsibility and stupidity , we must study first every details in what we are entering and this is how gamble must be treated .

If we have no solution other than banning gambling, then this world will not be a better place to live.

Just think of cigarettes, we know it's bad for our health but it's not banned, why was that?
Another one is liquor, it could make people make a bad decision when under the influence of liquor, why it's not banned?

Simple because there are people who are responsible enough who know the risk, and they were able to manage it effectively.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: ultrloa on May 21, 2021, 10:18:45 AM
Because there are too few of a winners compared to losers in gambling, also gambling isn't a healthy habit to have since it is a vice and it can be addicting. The motive behind the campaign is that they want to help people deter from possibility of gambling addiction.
I get your point and that is simply correct but also they are depriving people that want to gamble and want to spend their money legally .

becoming an addict in gambling is our own responsibility and stupidity , we must study first every details in what we are entering and this is how gamble must be treated .

If we have no solution other than banning gambling, then this world will not be a better place to live.

Just think of cigarettes, we know it's bad for our health but it's not banned, why was that?
Another one is liquor, it could make people make a bad decision when under the influence of liquor, why it's not banned?

Simple because there are people who are responsible enough who know the risk, and they were able to manage it effectively.

Well its different if you used to play gambling everyday but I'm sure you will get used to it since there are so many alternatives in the world that we can spend our times on.

Also don't be surprised if they didn't ban the cigarretes and liquor since it really gives huge taxes to the government so maybe their intention on why they do that anti gambling campaign is to do a regulation and they can ask a higher taxes from gambling operators.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: virasisog on May 21, 2021, 11:20:12 AM
There are only few gambling winners compared to the number of people who lost all their life savings in gambling. Not all people who had good fortunes in gambling had a good life. You can find it all over the internet, people who had hit a jackpot and lost it all in am instant due to poor financial management.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: AicecreaME on May 21, 2021, 11:36:36 AM
Why would it affect you though? You are just a player and most anti-gambling campaigns are targeted mostly on the gambling businesses that profits out of the "irresponsible" gamblers that you are saying. The taxes that the gambling industry is heavily written off so I don't think that we are going to be happy about that too.
Even if he's just a player it could still potentially affect him because just like what OP said the media focuses on the losers and it's only going to encourage the government to do something about it. While that's true the government are making money off gambling they will still look for ways to limit gambling when possible. Iirc Australia has one of the biggest average loss per gambler and they're starting to curb gambling by making it illegal.
Furthermore anti-gambling campaigns turn the common opinion of the society against gamblers. People start seeing them in a wrong way, as all gamblers were sick, irresponsible, mentally ill or unstable, because that is the portrait of gamblers exhibited in propagandas, movies, soap operas, news... When we see negative representations of gamblers' behavior on those campaigns, we never see an attached disclosure message pointing out that only a small percentage of total gamblers are actually problem gamblers. They represent the situation luring the public to believe every gamblers are addicted and impulsive individuals.

So it's accurate to suppose gamblers feel offended by such campaigns.

Anti-gambling campaign I guess works only on gambling platforms and casinos that has no business permit that's consider as illegal, and mostly people are addicted to those illegal gambling because they can't afford to play in a casino, so in short, gambling addiction is really hard to prevent since people will always find a way to gamble secretly.

Besides, it's their choices to play gambling, however, their logic seems not working because after they lost their money in gambling, they will ask help to their local Government for food, how ironic.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Chato1977 on May 21, 2021, 12:05:28 PM
There are only few gambling winners compared to the number of people who lost all their life savings in gambling. Not all people who had good fortunes in gambling had a good life. You can find it all over the internet, people who had hit a jackpot and lost it all in am instant due to poor financial management.
Exactly the point here , there are majority who loss while only few whos lucky enough to say gambling is really profitable.
that made sense about the campaign and why there are many supports .

Because there are too few of a winners compared to losers in gambling, also gambling isn't a healthy habit to have since it is a vice and it can be addicting. The motive behind the campaign is that they want to help people deter from possibility of gambling addiction.
I get your point and that is simply correct but also they are depriving people that want to gamble and want to spend their money legally .

becoming an addict in gambling is our own responsibility and stupidity , we must study first every details in what we are entering and this is how gamble must be treated .

If we have no solution other than banning gambling, then this world will not be a better place to live.

Just think of cigarettes, we know it's bad for our health but it's not banned, why was that?
Another one is liquor, it could make people make a bad decision when under the influence of liquor, why it's not banned?

Simple because there are people who are responsible enough who know the risk, and they were able to manage it effectively.
Then who are you on that? the one who responsible in gambling or the one knows this bad yet still doing?


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: plr on May 21, 2021, 12:09:54 PM
The majority of people perceive gambling to be evil and the harm outweighs the benefits, that is why so many people are against gambling and promote hate against gambling, that is why we responsible gamblers should educate people on how and when to gamble, yes there is an opportunity make money from gambling but in any way that we will make a living out of it, very few people can do this.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: aioc on May 21, 2021, 02:05:17 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.



It's because many people are losing money than winning, I don't know the percentage it could be 90% are losing money from gambling, and those who win from gambling there's a possibility that they also lose a lot of money, the good side of gambling is not about making a lot of money but rather having fun and get entertainment, gambling is exciting if there is no pressure from winning money.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Woodie on May 21, 2021, 02:11:32 PM
A coin has two sides and if people what to give one side of the story without telling the other, am afraid this so called awareness campaign will fall on deaf ears, but I still appreciate their efforts because gambling can sometimes get the better of you especially if you lose quite a lot.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: uneng on May 21, 2021, 02:42:23 PM
Besides, it's their choices to play gambling, however, their logic seems not working because after they lost their money in gambling, they will ask help to their local Government for food, how ironic.
Yes, many people rely on their governments to guarantee their basic needs nowadays because they are very poor and/or because they are unable to manage their finances correctly in a sustainable way on long run. But it doesn't happen only with gamblers. I see many people who have more children they can afford to sustain, alcohol and drugs addicted, all of them taking money from the government.
So it's actually not an issue caused by gambling, instead it's caused solely by human irresponsibility. Anyway it's really an absurd situation because who is giving free money to these people isn't actually the government, but the other citizens who sustain the government.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: adzino on May 21, 2021, 02:47:00 PM
I haven't seen any anti gambling campaign to be honest (or probably I have seen it but just ignored it). Their maybe some, but it's not pushed as aggressively as you think. You say that you are a profitable gambler. Maybe you are lucky. Not everyone can be a profitable gambler. You are making profit because someone else is losing. If everyone ends up being a "profitable gambler", casinos will go out of business.
Why is there never mention of the winners.

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WE WON A MILLION DOLLARS PLAYING FANTASY FOOTBALL

Because they do not want to promote gambling. Where do you think that million dollar came from? Obviously a group of people altogether lost a million dollar to fund that one winner.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Kelvinid on May 21, 2021, 02:52:00 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.



It's because many people are losing money than winning, I don't know the percentage it could be 90% are losing money from gambling, and those who win from gambling there's a possibility that they also lose a lot of money, the good side of gambling is not about making a lot of money but rather having fun and get entertainment, gambling is exciting if there is no pressure from winning money.

What I know is that the gambling industry is a profitable industry, this is called entertainment so it's just normal to see them profitable.

The logic is very simple, when you want entertainment in gambling, you spend, and when you spend that means you lose money and casinos will be the recipient of that.  Don't get confused by our chance, I think 10% of the total number is so high, most gamblers are losers, some are making money but those are the professional, probably 1% only.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: smyslov on May 21, 2021, 02:54:15 PM
Gambling is one of the riskiest game in the planet if you have no control you can lose everything in an instant, all those who are against gambling and doing a crusade against gambling have seen the evil and the worst of gambling, even the winners are not safe from the dangers of gambling, the only good thing on gambling is if we have a mindset that we are just going to enjoy it and allocate money that we can lose.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: SquallLeonhart on May 21, 2021, 05:56:07 PM
I don't think the anti-gambling movement or what you say is doing anything wrong, honestly.

You just can't compare gambling to any other job, a guy who maybe a big loser in gambling can be quite productive worker and can earn good money by hard work. It's not at all good to compare them, because they aren't even the same. It's so gross to generalize a loser in gambling= a loser in real world!

Gambling has destructive conclusions and many, millions of people lose family, money, respect and many even commit suicide and hence many countries has made it illegal as well.

Obviously it is a negative thing, you just can't say it's a good thing because you think it's good and easy way to make money? It's not lol, even when you win big, you will simply lose it all at the end because of our human all-time greedy nature, and almost all religions as well consider it a sin.
I mean "sheik" I understand you may not see anti gambling people that bad, but in the modern world we have always based our beliefs on the fact that "if someone is not hurting someone else, nobody should stop that person from hurting themselves", there are people who are against people doing many things, sure gambling is not as severe as that but there are religious people trying to stop people from doing things all around the world, this is wrong, very wrong, in the modern world because if a person is not hurting you or doing anything that even slightly touches your life, then you cannot touch their life neither.

Anyone who gambles just gambles and if they lose money then they lose money and it has nothing to do with us, he didn't do anything remotely related to us, so we can't say anything or do anything against him neither, that is how the world works. If you start deciding what others can or can't do then the world becomes dictatorship.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Mahanton on May 21, 2021, 08:31:56 PM
Gambling is one of the riskiest game in the planet if you have no control you can lose everything in an instant, all those who are against gambling and doing a crusade against gambling have seen the evil and the worst of gambling, even the winners are not safe from the dangers of gambling, the only good thing on gambling is if we have a mindset that we are just going to enjoy it and allocate money that we can lose.
Gambling isnt evil, the only evil thing is into someones intentions on it, if you do treat this is as a source of income or treating it a thing for you to get rich and this is where mistakes or problems
do happen on where peoples intentions arent really on the right point.Gambling is for entertainment but people are overexerting on things which is the wrong stuff and when government do sees
it on the negative side where its citizens is already going into the wrong path of addiction then this is where they do making out these kind of bans and prohibitions but
actually these things wont exist if people are really just engaging on it on the right way.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: chaser15 on May 21, 2021, 09:19:43 PM
the one who responsible in gambling or the one knows this bad yet still doing?

What do you actually mean by "knows this bad yet still doing"?

The whole context here is, gambling is not as bad as you think. Should we really have to blame gambling for those people who end up worst?

If we fall into the worst-case scenario, then it's us who should be blamed. That's why we need to reach the level of being responsible gamblers at any cost.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: batang_bitcoin on May 21, 2021, 09:22:24 PM
That will never stop. There will always be those articles and reminders that people shouldn't gamble because it only brings disaster to everyone's lives. It's also always giving that reason about mental sickness and OP got it right. But somehow, there's also basis for having that reason because some gamblers that have been found to be addicted needs to seek and have a mental help. I understand that they're too mindful to not everyone fall into addiction but they should also be transparent what it can do to the economy and a few professional gamblers.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: goaldigger on May 21, 2021, 09:24:44 PM
Gambling is one of the riskiest game in the planet if you have no control you can lose everything in an instant, all those who are against gambling and doing a crusade against gambling have seen the evil and the worst of gambling, even the winners are not safe from the dangers of gambling, the only good thing on gambling is if we have a mindset that we are just going to enjoy it and allocate money that we can lose.
Those who understand gambling will share their good and bad experiences to the newbies so they can spread awareness and prevent someone from losing big money. This anti gambling campaign is not about ruining the reputation of any casinos or any gambling site, this is just a warning and a guide for every gambler. Its all up to you if you’re going to take the risk, at least those people didn’t stop from spreading such information to help you out on this trap.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: mediaBuzz on May 21, 2021, 09:36:12 PM
Because online gambling is not a type of trading. That's a game. Entertainment that you pay for getting entertained. I read somewhere it is statistically proven that only one in 8 gamblers wins on average (online, offline, casinos, etc.) so it's natural that arguments that say online gambling is trash more than those who support it.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: nakamura12 on May 21, 2021, 09:37:52 PM
It is only natural that losers are always being mentioned rather than the winners. There is a thread here about a losers in gambling where they lose a lot of money in gambling. When you talk about gambling, all chance of winning are small compared to losing. Gambling should not be a main solution for tripling your money as it also comes in great risk of losing it all. That is the motive of anti gambling campaign which is to stop many people from losing too much money.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Fredomago on May 21, 2021, 10:41:46 PM
It is only natural that losers are always being mentioned rather than the winners. There is a thread here about a losers in gambling where they lose a lot of money in gambling. When you talk about gambling, all chance of winning are small compared to losing. Gambling should not be a main solution for tripling your money as it also comes in great risk of losing it all. That is the motive of anti gambling campaign which is to stop many people from losing too much money.

Enlighten those gamblers who already exceeded from their limitations, more people are losing money with uncontrolled addictions,
gamblers who can't avoid to continue playing even the amount of money that they'll spending is no longer dedicated to thier gambling activities.

The chance of losing is far higher than winning but gamblers will continue to take the risk in hope that they'll gonna hit the jackpot
and it will change everything.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: magneto on May 22, 2021, 03:54:49 AM
I actually think that this is not necessarily the problem.

The problem with media coverage of gambling is that it's either wildly positive or wildly negative. There are substantial amounts of campaigns that are revolved around glorifying certain aspects of gambling (just think about your national lottery ads on TV).

There are also as you rightfully mentioned an obscene amount of negative coverage. Overall, the media landscape is just sensationalist without reflecting the realities of gambling - it is a form of entertainment that comes with a -EV, and the vast majority of people will never win big or lose big.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: michellee on May 22, 2021, 08:55:00 AM
Because online gambling is not a type of trading. That's a game. Entertainment that you pay for getting entertained. I read somewhere it is statistically proven that only one in 8 gamblers wins on average (online, offline, casinos, etc.) so it's natural that arguments that say online gambling is trash more than those who support it.
Yes, gambling is a game that can entertain people who involve. But most people forget to stop when they already losses some money instead will trying to recover their losses. A few people can win from gambling and make money, but that still attract more people to test their luck. We should treat gambling as what it is and not trying to make money from gambling because the result will be not good for us. We can use other sources of income to make money than from gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Fortify on May 22, 2021, 10:11:56 AM
I actually think that this is not necessarily the problem.

The problem with media coverage of gambling is that it's either wildly positive or wildly negative. There are substantial amounts of campaigns that are revolved around glorifying certain aspects of gambling (just think about your national lottery ads on TV).

There are also as you rightfully mentioned an obscene amount of negative coverage. Overall, the media landscape is just sensationalist without reflecting the realities of gambling - it is a form of entertainment that comes with a -EV, and the vast majority of people will never win big or lose big.

As you say, the vast majority of people are losing or barely breaking even with a few big wins. The losers are going to be incredibly frustrated and angry that they lost hard earned money, making them very likely to shout about it to anyone who will listen. They will be leaving negative reviews as revenge, even though all the odds were clearly laid out if they bothered to read the fine print of the terms and conditions. The winners are happy but will be drowned out and people who made nothing have little incentive to write positive reviews about it either.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: YuginKadoya on May 22, 2021, 12:25:28 PM
Even in the past years when you say gambling people are really negative towards it because of its risk which is true, many people playing it don't admit to their loved ones and friends that they are in a casino and burning their fortunes away because many are negative and instead of a profit they will think that all your money went to a lost

And there are people that become addicted to it that is why many are pretty negative towards gambling I think that is why some gambling facilities and establishments shutdown and gambling become a ban in other countries, I think this is not new and there's no motive needed people to tend to just give all negative sides to gambling and not the positive ones.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Silberman on May 22, 2021, 02:50:05 PM
Why would it affect you though? You are just a player and most anti-gambling campaigns are targeted mostly on the gambling businesses that profits out of the "irresponsible" gamblers that you are saying. The taxes that the gambling industry is heavily written off so I don't think that we are going to be happy about that too.
Even if he's just a player it could still potentially affect him because just like what OP said the media focuses on the losers and it's only going to encourage the government to do something about it. While that's true the government are making money off gambling they will still look for ways to limit gambling when possible. Iirc Australia has one of the biggest average loss per gambler and they're starting to curb gambling by making it illegal.
Furthermore anti-gambling campaigns turn the common opinion of the society against gamblers. People start seeing them in a wrong way, as all gamblers were sick, irresponsible, mentally ill or unstable, because that is the portrait of gamblers exhibited in propagandas, movies, soap operas, news... When we see negative representations of gamblers' behavior on those campaigns, we never see an attached disclosure message pointing out that only a small percentage of total gamblers are actually problem gamblers. They represent the situation luring the public to believe every gamblers are addicted and impulsive individuals.

So it's accurate to suppose gamblers feel offended by such campaigns.
It is just a stereotype, the problem is that many people believe in stereotypes since they never take the time to think for themselves and see if what they are seeing in the media is true or not, what I find funny is how people want to prohibit gambling just because a very small amount of people are addicted to it but if we were to suggest to ban social media because a great deal of people area addicted to it and it has huge negative effects on society they will take a look at us as if we were crazy, when something like that will in fact be of a bigger benefit than to prohibit gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: cabron on May 22, 2021, 02:59:45 PM
Even in the past years when you say gambling people are really negative towards it because of its risk which is true, many people playing it don't admit to their loved ones and friends that they are in a casino and burning their fortunes away because many are negative and instead of a profit they will think that all your money went to a lost

And there are people that become addicted to it that is why many are pretty negative towards gambling I think that is why some gambling facilities and establishments shutdown and gambling become a ban in other countries, I think this is not new and there's no motive needed people to tend to just give all negative sides to gambling and not the positive ones.

And it's true that people also lose money in gambling. Obviously it's not good for people to gamble but if you have the money to spend, it's not going to be bad for you.

This could be the reason why some countries that made gambling illegal just set casinos far from the cities or just put the casinos where they know people who are going there has money to spend. Las Vegas or Macau for instance, you wouldn't be going to these places if you don't have money to spend.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: YuginKadoya on May 22, 2021, 04:22:35 PM
Even in the past years when you say gambling people are really negative towards it because of its risk which is true, many people playing it don't admit to their loved ones and friends that they are in a casino and burning their fortunes away because many are negative and instead of a profit they will think that all your money went to a lost

And there are people that become addicted to it that is why many are pretty negative towards gambling I think that is why some gambling facilities and establishments shutdown and gambling become a ban in other countries, I think this is not new and there's no motive needed people to tend to just give all negative sides to gambling and not the positive ones.

And it's true that people also lose money in gambling. Obviously it's not good for people to gamble but if you have the money to spend, it's not going to be bad for you.

This could be the reason why some countries that made gambling illegal just set casinos far from the cities or just put the casinos where they know people who are going there has money to spend. Las Vegas or Macau for instance, you wouldn't be going to these places if you don't have money to spend.

Apparently, I think you are right Casino's in different countries tend to be placed far from establishments that are crowded and mostly far from schools because students will surely be going into it, but what about if it is online gambling? even though some gambling casinos are surely prohibited and establish in far places there is online gambling that is still accessible and crypto gambling is surely anonymous most of the time, I think in different countries that have ban gambling includes online casinos as well.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: pawanjain on May 22, 2021, 04:49:27 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

Quote
WE WON A MILLION DOLLARS PLAYING FANTASY FOOTBALL

Despite the abundance of advertising telling you otherwise, you will almost certainly never win millions of dollars playing daily fantasy sports (if for no other reason than more and more states are outlawing it as a form of illegal gambling). But Rob and Dave Gomes, two 20-something brothers from Boston, are among the few who did just that. Last November, the pair of New England Patriots fans won $1,000,000 on daily fantasy sports website DraftKings. You might recognize them, as they were prominently featured in DraftKings’s ubiquitous TV commercials throughout the fall.

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/we-won-a-million-dollars-playing-fantasy-football

....

I think the sad truth is, people who lose big money gambling. Are the same people who would lose big money investing in the stock market. Some demographics simply don't make good financial decisions. There are always big losers and big winners in every industry. And don't understand why gambling is being painted in a light where only the big losers are acknowledged.

Fantasy sports is illegal in my US state. This may deprive me of options and opportunities to make money and profit.

To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

The thing is

1. Most of the people who gamble lose their money
2. Gamblers who win money inspire others but then those inspired people gamble and lose money because (see no. 1)

Also, money don't last forever. Those who win money gamble again and lose it or spend it lavishly.
There are many other factors which contribute to the negative fame of gambling.



Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: jostorres on May 22, 2021, 05:59:34 PM
That will never stop. There will always be those articles and reminders that people shouldn't gamble because it only brings disaster to everyone's lives. It's also always giving that reason about mental sickness and OP got it right. But somehow, there's also basis for having that reason because some gamblers that have been found to be addicted needs to seek and have a mental help. I understand that they're too mindful to not everyone fall into addiction but they should also be transparent what it can do to the economy and a few professional gamblers.
Gambling is looked upon as something one would feel hesitant telling others, that is the kind of image that has been built around gambling. Some religions even consider gambling a sin. I won't argue someone's religion but in my opinion, I don't see any problem with people spending a few bucks for their entertainment. You look at any form of entertainment and it will usually come at a cost and that's how gambling should be seen.

There are people who might be addicted to gambling but that can happen with almost every entertainment means. For example if you are drinking too much you will get addicted to it and someone playing games for entertainment might spend too much money buying the game items and that's also a kind of addiction.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: molsewid on May 22, 2021, 06:28:38 PM
Even in the past years when you say gambling people are really negative towards it because of its risk which is true, many people playing it don't admit to their loved ones and friends that they are in a casino and burning their fortunes away because many are negative and instead of a profit they will think that all your money went to a lost

And there are people that become addicted to it that is why many are pretty negative towards gambling I think that is why some gambling facilities and establishments shutdown and gambling become a ban in other countries, I think this is not new and there's no motive needed people to tend to just give all negative sides to gambling and not the positive ones.
According to my own opinion  there's no behind motive  in anti the gambling campaign. I guess those people behind the marketing field have their own study, explanation and reason why there's no positive campaign regarding the gambling. Maybe it's because the government since it's true that gambling affect the life of the people negatively. Because they got high taxes from gambling they just let them operate but no good campaign.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: batang_bitcoin on May 22, 2021, 08:34:30 PM
That will never stop. There will always be those articles and reminders that people shouldn't gamble because it only brings disaster to everyone's lives. It's also always giving that reason about mental sickness and OP got it right. But somehow, there's also basis for having that reason because some gamblers that have been found to be addicted needs to seek and have a mental help. I understand that they're too mindful to not everyone fall into addiction but they should also be transparent what it can do to the economy and a few professional gamblers.
Gambling is looked upon as something one would feel hesitant telling others, that is the kind of image that has been built around gambling. Some religions even consider gambling a sin. I won't argue someone's religion but in my opinion, I don't see any problem with people spending a few bucks for their entertainment. You look at any form of entertainment and it will usually come at a cost and that's how gambling should be seen.

There are people who might be addicted to gambling but that can happen with almost every entertainment means. For example if you are drinking too much you will get addicted to it and someone playing games for entertainment might spend too much money buying the game items and that's also a kind of addiction.
I think they're going against it when someone goes more than what they can afford and losses it with the effect of being addicted. There's no need to argue with anyone's belief, we respect what they think and as well as respects us in return. I do get the point that addiction comes in various forms and not in gambling, this is very true but they're more impactful in gambling and that's why all eyes are on it and they're looking at it as a habit that's not acceptable.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on May 22, 2021, 08:44:24 PM
It was directed to everyone who's primarily seeking to gamble for gains. Because they will have this negative connotation that it's very easy to earn huge racks of cash when you gamble which is not entirely true. It's for people who are aware that they do not have self-control, so they don't go bankrupt over a very stupid decision such as gambling all their life savings away.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: ReiMomo on May 22, 2021, 08:47:37 PM
It is simply that the things that come up in my mind why there's an anti-gambling campaign, just because they don't want to increase the number of those gambling addicts that may possible when they come at the stage of being addicted, they will most likely commit a crime. They know that not all players will become a winner and petty those loser chasing money through gambling.

So I guess, there's no motive why there's an organization like this, I think they have an insight into how will it worst if everyone relies on gambling and causing money, they will never realize that gambling is just for entertainment purposes only.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: tabas on May 22, 2021, 08:52:37 PM
It was directed to everyone who's primarily seeking to gamble for gains. Because they will have this negative connotation that it's very easy to earn huge racks of cash when you gamble which is not entirely true. It's for people who are aware that they do not have self-control, so they don't go bankrupt over a very stupid decision such as gambling all their life savings away.
They're making that negative claims so that those who are experiencing addiction and to those who wants to try it out will just stopped after seeing those campaigns. It's actually unfair for those who are having good terms in gambling and knows what they does.
But there really are those people that cannot be helped and has to be reminded through several materials like these campaigns.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: ShowOff on May 22, 2021, 08:57:36 PM
So I guess, there's no motive why there's an organization like this, I think they have an insight into how will it worst if everyone relies on gambling and causing money, they will never realize that gambling is just for entertainment purposes only.
If that is their true aim, I think their effort are still justified because apart from legalizing gambling, they want gamblers to have the responsibility for that gambling. Most gamblers find it difficult to have good self-control so many of them will run into problem eventually. I think gambling will not always be profitable and it doesn't deserve to be the main source of income for every player.

But there really are those people that cannot be helped and has to be reminded through several materials like these campaigns.
They are included in the category of heavy addict who can no longer control themselve in gambling. In some case, heavy addict are also advised to consult a specialist to reduce their addiction so that they can control and even stop gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: tabas on May 22, 2021, 09:18:33 PM
But there really are those people that cannot be helped and has to be reminded through several materials like these campaigns.
They are included in the category of heavy addict who can no longer control themselve in gambling. In some case, heavy addict are also advised to consult a specialist to reduce their addiction so that they can control and even stop gambling.
Yes and those campaigns are really for them but since it's in public, even those people who are not gamblers will also extract the message. And just as the idea that they are bringing with that warning.
Then those people will have to think of it and will realize that they should do as what the campaign says.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: michellee on May 23, 2021, 02:36:19 AM
It was directed to everyone who's primarily seeking to gamble for gains. Because they will have this negative connotation that it's very easy to earn huge racks of cash when you gamble which is not entirely true. It's for people who are aware that they do not have self-control, so they don't go bankrupt over a very stupid decision such as gambling all their life savings away.
I think that campaign is for every person, including those who already gamble and people who want to start gambling. It will remind them about the danger of playing gambling and what they can get from gambling. If more people can know about that campaign and they can think about the danger, maybe they will not try to involve in gambling instead stay away from gambling and search for other ways to make money.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 23, 2021, 12:21:15 PM
I live in a country where gambling is de jure legal. But it is very difficult for the casinos to get license so 90% of the gamblers depend on illegal gambling dens. Here organized religion is kept out of governance, so we don't have stupid anti-gambling laws. On the other hand, I have travelled to countries such as India, where gambling is illegal. Here the gambling sector is completely under the control of criminal gangs, since legal gambling is not possible. And this is what happens when the government comes up with stupid bans.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Vaskiy on May 23, 2021, 12:44:33 PM
I live in a country where gambling is de jure legal. But it is very difficult for the casinos to get license so 90% of the gamblers depend on illegal gambling dens. Here organized religion is kept out of governance, so we don't have stupid anti-gambling laws. On the other hand, I have travelled to countries such as India, where gambling is illegal. Here the gambling sector is completely under the control of criminal gangs, since legal gambling is not possible. And this is what happens when the government comes up with stupid bans.
Gambling is something similar to the usage of cryptocurrencies. In several countries there isn't anything regulated for the usage of cryptocurrencies. Quite often there comes a message stating the ban of cryptocurrency usage, but there won't be any strong reason for it. So, people look for the other loop holes for cryptocurrency usage. Same as that is with gambling, people make use of the illegal possible ways.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Silberman on May 25, 2021, 04:05:38 PM
The thing is

1. Most of the people who gamble lose their money
2. Gamblers who win money inspire others but then those inspired people gamble and lose money because (see no. 1)

Also, money don't last forever. Those who win money gamble again and lose it or spend it lavishly.
There are many other factors which contribute to the negative fame of gambling.


While it is true that the vast majority of gamblers lose money only a very small minority lose big amounts of money, the rest spend money similar to what any person will spend in any hobby and yet those people also get the the bad image of being a gambler, we need to differentiate between those two types of gamblers, the ones with some issues and the ones with not a single one and yet most of the time all gamblers are lumped together and this is what bother many gamblers.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: AmoreJaz on May 25, 2021, 10:40:50 PM
The thing is

1. Most of the people who gamble lose their money
2. Gamblers who win money inspire others but then those inspired people gamble and lose money because (see no. 1)

Also, money don't last forever. Those who win money gamble again and lose it or spend it lavishly.
There are many other factors which contribute to the negative fame of gambling.

While it is true that the vast majority of gamblers lose money only a very small minority lose big amounts of money, the rest spend money similar to what any person will spend in any hobby and yet those people also get the the bad image of being a gambler, we need to differentiate between those two types of gamblers, the ones with some issues and the ones with not a single one and yet most of the time all gamblers are lumped together and this is what bother many gamblers.

because the negative effects are highlighted even if you are in the minority category. just take for example, you only have the money for your basic expenses, and yet, you still gamble it, and once you lost it all, what will happen to your bills? if you can't afford this lifestyle, better not try it. the fact is, very few gamblers have their full control once they are already in their games. so many anti-gambling campaigns, because of so many lives ruined, whether you are a small timer or high roller. only few can really find success in gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: pawanjain on May 26, 2021, 02:28:56 PM
The thing is

1. Most of the people who gamble lose their money
2. Gamblers who win money inspire others but then those inspired people gamble and lose money because (see no. 1)

Also, money don't last forever. Those who win money gamble again and lose it or spend it lavishly.
There are many other factors which contribute to the negative fame of gambling.


While it is true that the vast majority of gamblers lose money only a very small minority lose big amounts of money, the rest spend money similar to what any person will spend in any hobby and yet those people also get the the bad image of being a gambler, we need to differentiate between those two types of gamblers, the ones with some issues and the ones with not a single one and yet most of the time all gamblers are lumped together and this is what bother many gamblers.

May be that's right but a gambler is a gambler no matter how much he loses. Most of the time the negative fame is due to the repeated losses in gambling.
For example if a person lost in his first attempt he would deposit more and gamble again and lose his money again.
This cycle continues until he loses big and get broke. This is the most common reason since most people fall into this category.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Silberman on May 28, 2021, 03:21:09 PM
The thing is

1. Most of the people who gamble lose their money
2. Gamblers who win money inspire others but then those inspired people gamble and lose money because (see no. 1)

Also, money don't last forever. Those who win money gamble again and lose it or spend it lavishly.
There are many other factors which contribute to the negative fame of gambling.


While it is true that the vast majority of gamblers lose money only a very small minority lose big amounts of money, the rest spend money similar to what any person will spend in any hobby and yet those people also get the the bad image of being a gambler, we need to differentiate between those two types of gamblers, the ones with some issues and the ones with not a single one and yet most of the time all gamblers are lumped together and this is what bother many gamblers.

May be that's right but a gambler is a gambler no matter how much he loses. Most of the time the negative fame is due to the repeated losses in gambling.
For example if a person lost in his first attempt he would deposit more and gamble again and lose his money again.
This cycle continues until he loses big and get broke. This is the most common reason since most people fall into this category.
I disagree there are many studies that show that from the whole population of gamblers only 4% to 5% can be described as having problems with the activity, the rest are responsible gamblers, again it seems many people do not see the difference, gambling is like any other activity from which you get entertainment or pleasure, I see many people that have problems with the time they invest in social media to the point their real lives take a hit and yet you see no interest from society to curb down this problem and yet the problem of addicted gamblers is so low and so much attention is given to it.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: milewilda on May 28, 2021, 04:44:03 PM
The thing is

1. Most of the people who gamble lose their money
2. Gamblers who win money inspire others but then those inspired people gamble and lose money because (see no. 1)

Also, money don't last forever. Those who win money gamble again and lose it or spend it lavishly.
There are many other factors which contribute to the negative fame of gambling.


While it is true that the vast majority of gamblers lose money only a very small minority lose big amounts of money, the rest spend money similar to what any person will spend in any hobby and yet those people also get the the bad image of being a gambler, we need to differentiate between those two types of gamblers, the ones with some issues and the ones with not a single one and yet most of the time all gamblers are lumped together and this is what bother many gamblers.

May be that's right but a gambler is a gambler no matter how much he loses. Most of the time the negative fame is due to the repeated losses in gambling.
For example if a person lost in his first attempt he would deposit more and gamble again and lose his money again.
This cycle continues until he loses big and get broke. This is the most common reason since most people fall into this category.
I disagree there are many studies that show that from the whole population of gamblers only 4% to 5% can be described as having problems with the activity, the rest are responsible gamblers, again it seems many people do not see the difference, gambling is like any other activity from which you get entertainment or pleasure, I see many people that have problems with the time they invest in social media to the point their real lives take a hit and yet you see no interest from society to curb down this problem and yet the problem of addicted gamblers is so low and so much attention is given to it.
What would you expect? Its part of reality on where people do only focuses out on to those addicted gamblers who do mess up their life without even knowing on whats the statistics
of it which is really way too less if we do compare out on the entire population which i dont see to put up much attention on that.Its true that there are still lots
of gamblers who could really able to control up theirselves when it comes to gambling. Whenever we do see a country which does prohibit nor banned gambling then
its up to their own reasons on why they have done that but mostly this do talks about minding their own citizens to avoid such addiction
but honestly there are still lots of ways when it comes to accessbility.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: chaser15 on May 28, 2021, 08:34:39 PM
I disagree there are many studies that show that from the whole population of gamblers only 4% to 5% can be described as having problems with the activity, the rest are responsible gamblers,

But didn't you know that there are small gamblers who actually feel depressed and stressed because of their continuous losses even for a small stake? For sure they are not part of that 4% to 5% you are saying that I don't know too where you got it.

Their stats can't be determined by any source because, in the first place, these people aren't showing to the public or maybe hiding that experience from anyone.

In reality, there is no source or reports that can validate how much gamblers are really having a problem. That's why a public drive of the anti-gambling campaign is the solution to reach any gambler audience as much as possible.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: DoublerHunter on May 28, 2021, 08:55:36 PM
I disagree there are many studies that show that from the whole population of gamblers only 4% to 5% can be described as having problems with the activity, the rest are responsible gamblers,

But didn't you know that there are small gamblers who actually feel depressed and stressed because of their continuous losses even for a small stake? For sure they are not part of that 4% to 5% you are saying that I don't know too where you got it.

Their stats can't be determined by any source because, in the first place, these people aren't showing to the public or maybe hiding that experience from anyone.

In reality, there is no source or reports that can validate how much gamblers are really having a problem. That's why a public drive of the anti-gambling campaign is the solution to reach any gambler audience as much as possible.
^ I think there is no problem with having an anti-gambling campaign and you are definitely right. The solution to this anti-gambling campaign is that the awareness of some gamblers that one step ahead they will become addicted. Probably that was the fact in here and there is the anti-gambling campaign, just through the notification at least you will be notified. However, this thing that I am sure will lessen the number of gambling addicts, it a big help though.
Nevertheless, you can delete it if you found not good.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: tabas on May 28, 2021, 11:27:33 PM
I live in a country where gambling is de jure legal. But it is very difficult for the casinos to get license so 90% of the gamblers depend on illegal gambling dens. Here organized religion is kept out of governance, so we don't have stupid anti-gambling laws.
That's better if there's no religion being involved in making laws. Because we know that there are countries that are involving their religion to their laws but we can't question them, their belief and way they manage their countries.
On the other hand, I have travelled to countries such as India, where gambling is illegal. Here the gambling sector is completely under the control of criminal gangs, since legal gambling is not possible. And this is what happens when the government comes up with stupid bans.
This is what really going to happen to countries that have restricted gambling, individuals and private people would be the one managing it for the "protection" of the business.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: magneto on May 30, 2021, 02:54:48 AM
I live in a country where gambling is de jure legal. But it is very difficult for the casinos to get license so 90% of the gamblers depend on illegal gambling dens. Here organized religion is kept out of governance, so we don't have stupid anti-gambling laws. On the other hand, I have travelled to countries such as India, where gambling is illegal. Here the gambling sector is completely under the control of criminal gangs, since legal gambling is not possible. And this is what happens when the government comes up with stupid bans.

Exactly. It's completely unproductive - as long as there is demand for gambling products, the government shouldn't be anti-industry. Rather, it should embrace it and healthily regulate (not through draconian means).

You'll simply get a bunch of unregulated entities springing up that will likely have ridiculously high house edges/rigged games.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather have licensed, regulated casinos that are more transparent compared underground gambling dens that are more likely to be addiction inducing and likely have much more immoral connotations associated with them.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: uneng on May 30, 2021, 03:25:04 AM
I disagree there are many studies that show that from the whole population of gamblers only 4% to 5% can be described as having problems with the activity, the rest are responsible gamblers,

But didn't you know that there are small gamblers who actually feel depressed and stressed because of their continuous losses even for a small stake? For sure they are not part of that 4% to 5% you are saying that I don't know too where you got it.

Their stats can't be determined by any source because, in the first place, these people aren't showing to the public or maybe hiding that experience from anyone.

In reality, there is no source or reports that can validate how much gamblers are really having a problem. That's why a public drive of the anti-gambling campaign is the solution to reach any gambler audience as much as possible.
But if you don't know from where he got those statistics how can you say the small problem gamblers aren't included on the 4%-5%?

It's actually possible to find such statistics and many different reports on google if you search for it. People who conduct these studies have their methods to reach estimated results even if gamblers hide their personal experiences from everyone else.

The problem is that those anti-gambling campaigns are using the example of problem gamblers, which are the minority, to lure the public opinion to believe it's a common behavior among gamblers, what isn't the true. They can't misrepresent the facts with the excuse they are helping people to avoid a possible addiction.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Wexnident on May 30, 2021, 05:38:06 AM
But if you don't know from where he got those statistics how can you say the small problem gamblers aren't included on the 4%-5%?

It's actually possible to find such statistics and many different reports on google if you search for it. People who conduct these studies have their methods to reach estimated results even if gamblers hide their personal experiences from everyone else.

The problem is that those anti-gambling campaigns are using the example of problem gamblers, which are the minority, to lure the public opinion to believe it's a common behavior among gamblers, what isn't the true. They can't misrepresent the facts with the excuse they are helping people to avoid a possible addiction.
That's the thing though, you don't exactly both sides of something when trying to argue with someone (especially one ignorant about the topic), you instead show the bad side, the side that would guarantee you a win in an argument. Even if you back it with facts, and say that 95% of gamblers are responsible and the rest are the ones that are bad, people will always, ALWAYS, nitpick the 5%, instead of the 95% good. Why? Because being responsible or good is something NATURAL, so people take it for granted.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: MCobian on May 30, 2021, 06:13:04 AM
It was directed to everyone who's primarily seeking to gamble for gains. Because they will have this negative connotation that it's very easy to earn huge racks of cash when you gamble which is not entirely true. It's for people who are aware that they do not have self-control, so they don't go bankrupt over a very stupid decision such as gambling all their life savings away.
I think that campaign is for every person, including those who already gamble and people who want to start gambling. It will remind them about the danger of playing gambling and what they can get from gambling. If more people can know about that campaign and they can think about the danger, maybe they will not try to involve in gambling instead stay away from gambling and search for other ways to make money.

I agree that the true intent of the anti-gambling campaign is good purpose, and it is shown for everyone, not only for those who have gambled.
In order to understand the dangers of gambling, because there are still many people who consider gambling as a source of income. So if we find
an anti-gambling campaign, there is no need to think negatively first, maybe they want to remind gambling is not good as a source of income
and only as entertainment. So everyone who wants to play gambling can finally be more careful when playing gambling, so that people gamble
with money that they can afford to lose. Maybe also with an anti-gambling campaign people can avoid gambling addiction, people who want to
play gambling can finally limit their time and money to play gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: coin-investor on May 30, 2021, 06:56:36 AM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.


Not everyone is like you or those who can make a profit from gambling these anti-gambling crusades by some people is just to warn people to play responsibly and they are preaching the reality of gambling too much, so you will hear or read their post about only play with money that you can afford to play because it's the reality of playing in gambling platform if you fail to follow that, the problem will come along the way.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Karartma1 on May 30, 2021, 07:26:07 AM
It's about reading the stats and knowing about a bit of statistics and mathematics. There are for sure a bunch of lucky players who have the chance to win and, sometimes, to win big but these data are outnumbered by the millions who keep losing.
This is how life works in the end, sometimes we're ahead, sometimes we're behind and the race it's only with ourselves.
To me it's not about negativity, but about reality and facts.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: tabas on May 30, 2021, 07:26:11 AM
Not everyone is like you or those who can make a profit from gambling these anti-gambling crusades by some people is just to warn people to play responsibly and they are preaching the reality of gambling too much, so you will hear or read their post about only play with money that you can afford to play because it's the reality of playing in gambling platform if you fail to follow that, the problem will come along the way.
They're reminding people to gamble responsibly but most of them are reminding to stop wholly because they're showing the bad results of it.
That's why those campaigns are really discouraging people to gamble which is their right. But no matter how they do their campaign if their people will have that curiosity to gamble, they will gamble.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Mauser on May 30, 2021, 07:32:52 AM
It's about reading the stats and knowing about a bit of statistics and mathematics. There are for sure a bunch of lucky players who have the chance to win and, sometimes, to win big but these data are outnumbered by the millions who keep losing.
This is how life works in the end, sometimes we're ahead, sometimes we're behind and the race it's only with ourselves.
To me it's not about negativity, but about reality and facts.

I think there are two negative type of people towards gambling and who try to stop it. The first group is former gamblers who either lost money or who tried hard and never managed to win big. The feel like they deserve to win but the bad casinos are rigged and they had to chance. This is probably the more extremer group where changing their mind seems very hard. The second group is not so extreme and could like be reasoned with. They are just negative people, probably never really gambled and just want to ruin the fun for others.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: pilosopotasyo on May 30, 2021, 07:53:58 AM
is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Silberman on May 31, 2021, 04:36:13 PM
I live in a country where gambling is de jure legal. But it is very difficult for the casinos to get license so 90% of the gamblers depend on illegal gambling dens. Here organized religion is kept out of governance, so we don't have stupid anti-gambling laws. On the other hand, I have travelled to countries such as India, where gambling is illegal. Here the gambling sector is completely under the control of criminal gangs, since legal gambling is not possible. And this is what happens when the government comes up with stupid bans.

Exactly. It's completely unproductive - as long as there is demand for gambling products, the government shouldn't be anti-industry. Rather, it should embrace it and healthily regulate (not through draconian means).

You'll simply get a bunch of unregulated entities springing up that will likely have ridiculously high house edges/rigged games.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather have licensed, regulated casinos that are more transparent compared underground gambling dens that are more likely to be addiction inducing and likely have much more immoral connotations associated with them.
This is why prohibiting a product or service should only be used for the stuff that is really dangerous, gambling does not qualify as the number of people that area addicted to it is so low that if governments ban it and people keep gambling then they will be way more unprotected and this will apply not only to the addicted gamblers but those that are responsible as well and many honest people will lose their jobs while governments lose a lot of money on taxes, all things being considered banning gambling seems like a losing move for the governments.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: sunsilk on May 31, 2021, 09:33:41 PM
I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.
Each person has different views on what anti gambling campaign entails with. It may be negative for some and that's what OP thinks that he's being deprived of his chance of making money through gambling and that's understandable.

But on the other hand, we all have views on it and that's why it's very subjective.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Fatunad on May 31, 2021, 11:53:54 PM
I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.
Each person has different views on what anti gambling campaign entails with. It may be negative for some and that's what OP thinks that he's being deprived of his chance of making money through gambling and that's understandable.

But on the other hand, we all have views on it and that's why it's very subjective.
Would really have positive and negative depending on the person who do view about gambling because we do have different impressions which means different comment about it.

Its bit understandable on why they do came up with that decision of banning or having that anti gambling campaign is to protect out their citizens on possible gambling addiction.
If there such rule or regulation into our own country then we wont have any choice but to abide with the laws.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: sunsilk on June 01, 2021, 07:34:04 PM
I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.
Each person has different views on what anti gambling campaign entails with. It may be negative for some and that's what OP thinks that he's being deprived of his chance of making money through gambling and that's understandable.

But on the other hand, we all have views on it and that's why it's very subjective.
Would really have positive and negative depending on the person who do view about gambling because we do have different impressions which means different comment about it.

Its bit understandable on why they do came up with that decision of banning or having that anti gambling campaign is to protect out their citizens on possible gambling addiction.
If there such rule or regulation into our own country then we wont have any choice but to abide with the laws.
That's their goal and that's why they're making those type of campaigns because they think that it will harm their citizens. With what most of the media is showing around the effects of gambling, people would really think that it's only giving harmful effects.

Because of those irresponsible gamblers that they are taking as an example, the government has to step so that there's going to be a lessen number of people who would become addicted to gambling.

It's about the effect of gambling that they're looking to avoid and that's why they're helping in that case as what they think it's the best way for them to help their people.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: iv4n on June 01, 2021, 08:03:53 PM
The main motive in my opinion is that they want less people getting addicted to gambling and having an unhealthy financial health. I think that this is pretty noble thing to do because I have seen people have their lives turned the wrong direction because of their gambling addiction.

The main motive is a misunderstanding! I don't know how many times I need to repeat the same thing before people start understanding... gambling, drugs, sex perversions, name any other vice will never disappear from this earth! It's not about the existence of these vices, these vices exist and these vices are in all of us, it's about controlling them!

We are all addicts! And we all depend on something, whatever that is... starting from the basic things like water and food to some individual stuff! We all need basic addiction + addiction that calms us down and get us through the day! I guess the greatest irony is that some guy in Netherland can smoke weed and gamble freely, while in some Godforsaken country a normal person can't do the same!

So the greatest motive comes from hate, from the people who deny themselves! In trying to deny their nature they are capable of doing everything and anything, as we can witness!


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Twinkledoe on June 01, 2021, 11:07:50 PM
The main motive in my opinion is that they want less people getting addicted to gambling and having an unhealthy financial health. I think that this is pretty noble thing to do because I have seen people have their lives turned the wrong direction because of their gambling addiction.

The main motive is a misunderstanding! I don't know how many times I need to repeat the same thing before people start understanding... gambling, drugs, sex perversions, name any other vice will never disappear from this earth! It's not about the existence of these vices, these vices exist and these vices are in all of us, it's about controlling them!

We are all addicts! And we all depend on something, whatever that is... starting from the basic things like water and food to some individual stuff! We all need basic addiction + addiction that calms us down and get us through the day! I guess the greatest irony is that some guy in Netherland can smoke weed and gamble freely, while in some Godforsaken country a normal person can't do the same!

So the greatest motive comes from hate, from the people who deny themselves! In trying to deny their nature they are capable of doing everything and anything, as we can witness!

And the problem is, most people can't control these vices, the reason why a lot are turning into addicts, whatever vice it is. So before they even enter into this vice, there are so many hate campaigns trying to discourage people not to go into this vice. However, only the person himself can decide on what to do with his life. And he should know the ramifications of his decision. That is for him to shoulder on.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: kawetsriyanto on June 01, 2021, 11:41:21 PM
Practically no one supports gambling, just like with cigarette industries.
I think this should be corrected a bit, brother.
"Theoretically, no one supports gambling. but practically, there are a lot of people who support it by participating in it."

*Some of them build gambling platforms, some people become gamblers, some participate in promoting the gambling platforms. Also, many other people support it although they don't join on it directly. That's the fact!

the main problem is 'gambling addicts'..
Not sure to say this as the main problem.
For some people, the main problem is they lose their money.
Addiction is just a side impact for daily gamblers. But for people who only use spare time to gamble, it is probably not the main problem.



Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: mu_enrico on June 02, 2021, 01:48:05 AM
Practically no one supports gambling, just like with cigarette industries.
I think this should be corrected a bit, brother.
"Theoretically, no one supports gambling. but practically, there are a lot of people who support it by participating in it."

*Some of them build gambling platforms, some people become gamblers, some participate in promoting the gambling platforms. Also, many other people support it although they don't join on it directly. That's the fact!
I think the meaning lost in translation. Practically means almost, not 100%.
I cannot recall there is a group that supports gambling, except those who are in the gambling industry. And it only account small minority of the population.
Even many gamblers won't support gambling because it ruined their lives. Take part as a user doesn't mean he supports the activity because of the addiction forces him to gamble. The situation is similar with cigarette industry where only those who work in the industry support it.

Anyway, context is important ;)



Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: michellee on June 02, 2021, 08:44:11 AM
The main motive in my opinion is that they want less people getting addicted to gambling and having an unhealthy financial health. I think that this is pretty noble thing to do because I have seen people have their lives turned the wrong direction because of their gambling addiction.
Yes, that is right because in this pandemic, if people become addicted to gambling, they can lose their money and they can not buy foods that will be the important thing for their lives. People still struggle to survive now, and those campaigns want to warn people not to try playing gambling too often and saving the money for buying foods. If many people can listen to that, people will have a chance to have money and survive because we do not know when this pandemic will end.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: AicecreaME on June 02, 2021, 12:59:02 PM
is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.

I agree.

Opportunities that exist in gambling is mostly about losing, only little percentage about winning, because it's that hard. The odds will always be in favor of the house because that's how it works, that's what you called "house edge" to sustain their everyday bankroll. Others who won big in gambling just got lucky, played gamble at the right time when gambling sites or physical casinos are ready to make someone wealthy in a certain day because they already get the profit they want.

And that would create FOMO to those people who are thinking about playing gambling but doesn't have enough reason to do so.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: kawetsriyanto on June 02, 2021, 11:17:10 PM
I think the meaning lost in translation. Practically means almost, not 100%.
You seem don't get my point, bro. I am not arguing about the meaning of "practically", I don't really care whether it is 100% or less.
In my opinion, "no one supports gambling", is only in theory. While in practicality, it's not proven. So, better to replace "practically" with "theoretically". However, it is just a suggestion, not a must to follow it. If you think what you said has no mistake and no need for a change, that's your right.

Anyway, context is important
I know it, I never replied before reading carefully and understand it deeply first.
I hope you get my point! Thank you..



Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: molsewid on June 03, 2021, 02:34:38 PM

Would really have positive and negative depending on the person who do view about gambling because we do have different impressions which means different comment about it.

Its bit understandable on why they do came up with that decision of banning or having that anti gambling campaign is to protect out their citizens on possible gambling addiction.
If there such rule or regulation into our own country then we wont have any choice but to abide with the laws.

Absolutely true mate, we are all have our own point of view in this matter. If the reason why there's such an anti gambling campaign happened at that certain nation is to protect their citizens from the possible effect of gambling which is gambling addiction then I guess there's nothing wrong with that motive. We are all entitle with our own opinion regarding this matter and to be honest each and everyone has their own level of self control when it comes in gambling. Some were too good in controlling themselves like having a good self control to limit their time in engaging in gambling and some are not, some are afraid to make themselves to engage because they are afraid for the probable consequences like they may enjoyed it and that is totally fine.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Silberman on June 03, 2021, 04:54:12 PM
The main motive in my opinion is that they want less people getting addicted to gambling and having an unhealthy financial health. I think that this is pretty noble thing to do because I have seen people have their lives turned the wrong direction because of their gambling addiction.
But this is the thing, just because something is illegal that does not mean that you are going to have less access to it, the perfect example of this are drugs, look at all the money that has been invested because of the desire of governments to eradicate the illegal traffic of drugs and all the violence this generates and yet you can get drugs in almost any part of the world whenever you want, when there is demand someone is going to take the risk to offer the supply which means that a prohibition is not the right way to go when it comes to gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: qwertyup23 on June 07, 2021, 06:15:30 PM
I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.
Each person has different views on what anti gambling campaign entails with. It may be negative for some and that's what OP thinks that he's being deprived of his chance of making money through gambling and that's understandable.

But on the other hand, we all have views on it and that's why it's very subjective.

Gambling is not per se, bad. What makes it bad is the addiction that a person garners from entering such activity without the necessary discipline and self-control.

Just like any addiction in the society, once it gets too much, then it will be considered bad or detrimental to the health of a person. There are always the sides of a spectrum, a person may be profitable in gambling while others feel the opposite. But the key factor here will always be one's self-control and discipline when it comes to these activities.



Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: molsewid on June 09, 2021, 08:19:05 AM

I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.

I believe that those people behind the anti gambling campaign are those people who have had witnessed their relatives or family members suffered from the consequences of gambling or even they are the person who were used to be as a gambling addict once and successfully win their battle to overcome their gambling addiction. I guess there is no such foul play or motive behind the boycott of those people, they just wanted to warn or to set themselves as an examples of how it is being once a gambling addict or they only wanted to prevent others to become addicted in gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Zilon on June 09, 2021, 09:22:35 AM
there are winning post in gambling but loosing post are more than it
. this is why we think they are against gambling but this is the truth , its hard to win in gambling .
Losses occurs in all forms of business and it's not not a respecter of how experienced you an individual is. I'm not saying losses isn't one of the reasons for the anti-gambling campaign am only saying it's not enough reason. I feel gamblers risk a whole lot that could even cost their lives and the easily get too addicted to gambling thereby getting  carried away by big odds even when they know the can't win such prediction the still go ahead to stake heavily thereby loosing heavy fortune on games that would ruin their lives.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Pamadar on June 09, 2021, 09:29:29 AM
The main motive in my opinion is that they want less people getting addicted to gambling and having an unhealthy financial health. I think that this is pretty noble thing to do because I have seen people have their lives turned the wrong direction because of their gambling addiction.
But this is the thing, just because something is illegal that does not mean that you are going to have less access to it, the perfect example of this are drugs, look at all the money that has been invested because of the desire of governments to eradicate the illegal traffic of drugs and all the violence this generates and yet you can get drugs in almost any part of the world whenever you want, when there is demand someone is going to take the risk to offer the supply which means that a prohibition is not the right way to go when it comes to gambling.

Because of greed in money, even how big the risk there are still people who continue to facilitate this kind of activities.

The same way with gambling, there are places that gambling is illegal or there are types of gambling that's illegal in some places, but because of people who continue to patronize it, there are people who take the risk and manage to earned out from this business, government are trying but there's always greed people around.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Silberman on June 13, 2021, 06:08:34 PM
I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.
Each person has different views on what anti gambling campaign entails with. It may be negative for some and that's what OP thinks that he's being deprived of his chance of making money through gambling and that's understandable.

But on the other hand, we all have views on it and that's why it's very subjective.

Gambling is not per se, bad. What makes it bad is the addiction that a person garners from entering such activity without the necessary discipline and self-control.

Just like any addiction in the society, once it gets too much, then it will be considered bad or detrimental to the health of a person. There are always the sides of a spectrum, a person may be profitable in gambling while others feel the opposite. But the key factor here will always be one's self-control and discipline when it comes to these activities.


There are many reasons why people think that gambling is bad, for example one of the objections people have against gambling are religious in nature and while I respect the faith of each person we need to understand that when the admonition against gambling was made people could be enslaved by their debts or even lose family members because of it so it made sense that such a thing was forbidden, but now that casinos fall within the law and such things are illegal as long as you can control your gambling then you are not harming anyone and you should be allowed to gamble if you want.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: RealMalatesta on June 13, 2021, 08:16:44 PM
just because something is illegal that does not mean that you are going to have less access to it, the perfect example of this are drugs, look at all the money that has been invested because of the desire of governments to eradicate the illegal traffic of drugs and all the violence this generates and yet you can get drugs in almost any part of the world whenever you want, when there is demand someone is going to take the risk to offer the supply which means that a prohibition is not the right way to go when it comes to gambling.
Because of greed in money, even how big the risk there are still people who continue to facilitate this kind of activities.

The same way with gambling, there are places that gambling is illegal or there are types of gambling that's illegal in some places, but because of people who continue to patronize it, there are people who take the risk and manage to earned out from this business, government are trying but there's always greed people around.
Not sure how gambling is seen as a big risk because I agree that we are going to lose in gambling but come on why are people looking at gambling as a way of making money, gambling is only meant for fun and it's a mistake if someone wants to earn through it.

Now coming to the legality part, there are many countries where even bitcoins are illegal but people are using them and I don't see a problem because the government shall not decide what people want to do with their money. If I have $100 to spend and I want to buy lottery tickets, the government should have no problem with me burning my hard-earned money for which I have already paid all the taxes.

Gambling addiction is a risk but gambling itself is not, similar to how alcohol is not a problem but excessive consumption and smoking is.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: robelneo on June 13, 2021, 10:44:40 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.



It's but natural that we have that kind of comments because gambling is risky and people who cannot control their gambling habits and lose a lot of money become example because of their being irresponsible players, it's not the game it's the players, and mentioned of winners in gambling lottery I don't think it's good and will only put the winner in trouble.
Many lottery winners prefer not to headline their names and so do winners of casinos, this is to protect their winnings and their safety, that is why many people think there are only very few winners when in fact, winners want privacy.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: qwertyup23 on June 13, 2021, 11:00:02 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.

Gambling, just like any addiction, is associated with countless of risks especially if one lacks the necessary discipline to prevent them from going down that rabbit hole. The negative effects of gambling has caused a disruption in the society where people try to discuss the problems as much as possible to prevent other people from going down this hill.

That is the reason on why most people talk about the negative effects of gambling due to the number of people who experience loss.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 14, 2021, 07:35:21 AM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.

Gambling, just like any addiction, is associated with countless of risks especially if one lacks the necessary discipline to prevent them from going down that rabbit hole. The negative effects of gambling has caused a disruption in the society where people try to discuss the problems as much as possible to prevent other people from going down this hill.

That is the reason on why most people talk about the negative effects of gambling due to the number of people who experience loss.
The negative effect from gambling will be bigger than the positive, so the anti-gambling campaign is everywhere, especially when gambling is allowed in that country. That can warn people how dangerous gambling, especially if they can not control themselves.

But it is not easy to stop people from playing gambling, especially if gambling is already rooted in society. It needs support from the government, all elements in society, and all people who always tell addicted people to reduce their time in playing gambling. People need to help the addicted people in gambling to solve their addiction.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: lienfaye on June 14, 2021, 07:53:27 AM
You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.
Thats true, many people are losing their money compared to gamblers who are winning each day. Thats why there are anti gambling campaign to show the negative sides of engaging yourself in gambling and to prevent ourselves to lose our money.

Just like other addiction's warning it has a bad effect especially if you have no control. But its fine to gamble as long as you can set limit and have discipline, but the problem is most gamblers are lacking of this mindset. Though there are few gamblers who succeed in gambling as their profession, but still, not everyone can do it.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: slaman29 on June 14, 2021, 02:02:23 PM
You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.
Thats true, many people are losing their money compared to gamblers who are winning each day. Thats why there are anti gambling campaign to show the negative sides of engaging yourself in gambling and to prevent ourselves to lose our money.

Just like other addiction's warning it has a bad effect especially if you have no control. But its fine to gamble as long as you can set limit and have discipline, but the problem is most gamblers are lacking of this mindset. Though there are few gamblers who succeed in gambling as their profession, but still, not everyone can do it.

I have to say even 13% gamblers winning daily is a far-fetched number for anyone to believe in, I win some days and lose most days, so how can anyone consistently win? Even the house does not always lose, and can lose much more than win in a normal occasion unless you allow time to play out over the years.

Just face the facts. You lose eventually in gambling. The point is to have fun. Finito.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: AicecreaME on June 14, 2021, 03:34:03 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.

Gambling, just like any addiction, is associated with countless of risks especially if one lacks the necessary discipline to prevent them from going down that rabbit hole. The negative effects of gambling has caused a disruption in the society where people try to discuss the problems as much as possible to prevent other people from going down this hill.

That is the reason on why most people talk about the negative effects of gambling due to the number of people who experience loss.

Let me add this as well.

Gambling positive effects are much lesser compare to its negative effects to people, that's why we can't really blame them to expose the reality about gambling, because that's what is really is. Obviously, if you see people talking about it like they hate it for death, that'll only means they experienced bad things about it and vice versa.

And the government and other concern citizens being aware about this launched different programs to help people know what they are after in gambling so that they are not going to be surprise or shock anymore when they experience worst things in gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Smartprofit on June 14, 2021, 03:59:38 PM
I am very happy for the people who managed to win the jackpot by gambling.  Once my girlfriend won a 4k TV.  I am very happy for her! 

However, it should be noted that the probability of losing in a gambling game is greater than the probability of winning.  Gambling is a zero-sum game. 

This is the difference between gambling and investing in stocks.  Due to inflation, the average price of shares in the stock market is constantly growing. 

Therefore, advertising of gambling is prohibited in many countries.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Silberman on June 16, 2021, 06:53:56 PM
I have to say even 13% gamblers winning daily is a far-fetched number for anyone to believe in, I win some days and lose most days, so how can anyone consistently win? Even the house does not always lose, and can lose much more than win in a normal occasion unless you allow time to play out over the years.

Just face the facts. You lose eventually in gambling. The point is to have fun. Finito.
It will be interesting to see where that number came up however as long as those were not the same people every day then it could match the results we see, some people will have some positive sessions despite the house edge but we know that over the long term it is impossible to win except for an incredibly and exceptional small number of gamblers, so the rest of us need to accept the truth and gamble just for fun, and if we cannot do that then to stop gambling is the only choice.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Lordhermes on June 16, 2021, 08:28:44 PM
I am very happy for the people who managed to win the jackpot by gambling.  Once my girlfriend won a 4k TV.  I am very happy for her
I am part of those people that criticize gambling because it's never my thing, I have always find myself regretting after placing wrong bets, to me hearing that someone wins large amount of money seems like an delusional stories and myths, I lost big accumulated sum of money during the time of my gambling career, I discovered Immediately that it wasn't my thing so I have to fucking quit.
 
This is the difference between gambling and investing in stocks.  Due to inflation, the average price of shares in the stock market is constantly growing. 
I didn't understand why op make this statement, saying losers in gambling are liable to loss in stock market, this statement is not ethical I doubt him for saying that, stock and gambling is quitely a different thing.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Smartvirus on June 16, 2021, 09:15:54 PM
Over the years, gambling has attached himself with a reputation that makes even gamblers look immoral in the sights of men. This is mostly due to the unregulated nature of the trade back  then, as most gambling where done without any clear supervision or wasn't conducted with fairness. Now, the government came into play and gambling became very legal and a taxable aspect of the society for which national and state revenue are generated for the benefit of a nation. Gambling is never a bad thing, its a willing full act reserved for the matured minds and financially capable. Hence, fighting a thing born out of freewill is just an abuse of the right to free expression. Gambling is here to stay but in accordance with the law.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 16, 2021, 09:46:34 PM
~snip~
This is the difference between gambling and investing in stocks.  Due to inflation, the average price of shares in the stock market is constantly growing. 
I didn't understand why op make this statement, saying losers in gambling are liable to loss in stock market, this statement is not ethical I doubt him for saying that, stock and gambling is quitely a different thing.
^ Probably OP means that in gambling, not all become to win there should be a loser. Trading and gambling are totally different but it seems like they are like a coin, two different faces but still, it is a coin and that is how gambling and trading are, they are both capable of managings financial your fund. On the other side, governments always protect their people from possible addiction that probably can't manage themselves. That is why gambling has different regulations depending on which country you are in. There will be always an anti-gambling.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: tabas on June 16, 2021, 10:26:15 PM
I am very happy for the people who managed to win the jackpot by gambling.  Once my girlfriend won a 4k TV.  I am very happy for her! 

However, it should be noted that the probability of losing in a gambling game is greater than the probability of winning.  Gambling is a zero-sum game. 

This is the difference between gambling and investing in stocks.  Due to inflation, the average price of shares in the stock market is constantly growing. 

Therefore, advertising of gambling is prohibited in many countries.
They do it to stop the other people to experience gambling addiction because they cannot control it anymore and they don't want others to experience it just as the others who didn't managed themselves.
Good for those who did tried it for the first time and they got the beginners and win some prizes and amount just like your girlfriend. But these governments are looking for the long term effect of it which they have concluded to only bring bad effects.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: STT on June 16, 2021, 11:49:00 PM
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Not sure how gambling is seen as a big risk

Ease of gambling would be the biggest risk, in comparison to the compulsion to do anything.   You can get an Endorphins rush from exercising, its a healthy reaction most of the time but it is also possible to get addicted to a feeling and then exercise too much and amazingly its possible to die that way from pushing yourself too far.  That would be a rare way to end up in a bad way most of the time because most people get tired out exercising, it has a natural control to the activity that discourages the over use of that endorphin release.
   Gambling is possible to take very far very easily because the nature of our money lets people borrow, some parts of the world limit borrowing as its outlawed or you must travel far away to access the gambling but most of the world you can overspend and get into trouble easily, thats the main reason gambling is seen so negatively.    I think over eating is another very easy activity, our modern culture and productive society made food and calories cheap and convenient, now it can become an addiction.  All of these activities mentioned including gambling are fine if done on a set basis, thats my advise to most people come back another day dont expect to always win every session it is best to step away and give luck another try another day.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: virasog on June 17, 2021, 02:55:14 AM

The negative effect from gambling will be bigger than the positive, so the anti-gambling campaign is everywhere, especially when gambling is allowed in that country. That can warn people how dangerous gambling, especially if they can not control themselves.


I partially agree with this statement. Have you noticed that there are so many people saying that we have lost that much amount in gambling but there are very few who say that we won in gambling. Is that the winning ratio is low in gambling or people just don't tell when they are winning. I can't believe that 90% of the gamblers only losing and yet the gambling users never get less.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: rodskee on June 17, 2021, 03:18:09 AM

The negative effect from gambling will be bigger than the positive, so the anti-gambling campaign is everywhere, especially when gambling is allowed in that country. That can warn people how dangerous gambling, especially if they can not control themselves.


I partially agree with this statement. Have you noticed that there are so many people saying that we have lost that much amount in gambling but there are very few who say that we won in gambling. Is that the winning ratio is low in gambling or people just don't tell when they are winning. I can't believe that 90% of the gamblers only losing and yet the gambling users never get less.
Because the thrill and excitement makes the gamblers stays in playing , remember how much adrenaline gambling activities gives us and that's what we tend to enjoy.

if gambling is boring then for sure there will be no addicted one till now.

I am very happy for the people who managed to win the jackpot by gambling.  Once my girlfriend won a 4k TV.  I am very happy for her! 
Wow 4k? that's not bad to win in single game, I remember winning in one popular gambling here amounting 6k but sad to say i did not stop and in the end ? losses is what i got.
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However, it should be noted that the probability of losing in a gambling game is greater than the probability of winning.  Gambling is a zero-sum game. 

This is the difference between gambling and investing in stocks.  Due to inflation, the average price of shares in the stock market is constantly growing. 

Therefore, advertising of gambling is prohibited in many countries.
Gamble the amount that excess from your daily funds and not the amount that is for real life.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Smartvirus on June 17, 2021, 08:59:53 AM
~snip~
^ Probably OP means that in gambling, not all become to win there should be a loser. Trading and gambling are totally different but it seems like they are like a coin, two different faces but still, it is a coin and that is how gambling and trading are, they are both capable of managings financial your fund. On the other side, governments always protect their people from possible addiction that probably can't manage themselves.
Perhaps OP meant it relatively. Like making a comparison between the way gamblers and investors can loose in their fields subjectively and immediately paint it black. Especially when its got to do with trying of stocks for unexperienced investors. It always feels as though, the market is targeted on them. Other than this, then its very much to note that gambling and investing is mutually exclusive. They aren't the same or related in anyway. The tricks that works in investing and that of gambling are very much different. Gamblung is basically based on luck and a few experience but investing could be studied objectively and one could be acquinted with the tricks about it.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Betwrong on June 17, 2021, 10:21:09 AM
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To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I think in the vast majority of cases it's neither of that. Journalists seek attention for their articles, in the first place, and they'd figured out long ago that bad news sell better than good ones. This applies to predictions too: people would rather click on "20% of the world population will die of famine in 10 years" than on "20% of the world population will have much better conditions of living in 10 years". Danger is more clickable, it's as simple as that. "Nothing personal, just business."


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Pamadar on June 17, 2021, 10:49:46 AM
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To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I think in the vast majority of cases it's neither of that. Journalists seek attention for their articles, in the first place, and they'd figured out long ago that bad news sell better than good ones. This applies to predictions too: people would rather click on "20% of the world population will die of famine in 10 years" than on "20% of the world population will have better conditions of living in 10 years". Danger is more clickable, it's as simple as that. "Nothing personal, just business."

I agree to your statement, they all care about money, the more viewers and readers the better for the business,

You gave example that easy to understand, those journalist knows that if they'll bring bad publicity readers interest is more imply to

click it and visit the site, they are not really care to what are the after effects as if they care about those gambling addicted people,
nothing personal but they want to get attentions and money from those people who will read the articles.



Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: DU18 on June 17, 2021, 11:17:42 AM

The negative effect from gambling will be bigger than the positive, so the anti-gambling campaign is everywhere, especially when gambling is allowed in that country. That can warn people how dangerous gambling, especially if they can not control themselves.


I partially agree with this statement. Have you noticed that there are so many people saying that we have lost that much amount in gambling but there are very few who say that we won in gambling. Is that the winning ratio is low in gambling or people just don't tell when they are winning. I can't believe that 90% of the gamblers only losing and yet the gambling users never get less.
it's undeniable that gambling is a bad thing, but why do people continue to do it ?Maybe because it's just because of the fun factor, so they forget every penny they have spent on gambling, the fact that they lose money after visiting the casino, and that doesn't affect the enjoyment They are on satisfaction after gambling, gamblers will be quite content with small wins, and they will tolerate small losses so that they don't realize that in the long run, they are losing more than winning.
I agree with what you said, the real winners in a gambling are those who become the dealer of the game.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: bitterguy28 on June 17, 2021, 11:18:49 AM
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To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I think in the vast majority of cases it's neither of that. Journalists seek attention for their articles, in the first place, and they'd figured out long ago that bad news sell better than good ones. This applies to predictions too: people would rather click on "20% of the world population will die of famine in 10 years" than on "20% of the world population will have better conditions of living in 10 years". Danger is more clickable, it's as simple as that. "Nothing personal, just business."

I agree to your statement, they all care about money, the more viewers and readers the better for the business,

You gave example that easy to understand, those journalist knows that if they'll bring bad publicity readers interest is more imply to

click it and visit the site, they are not really care to what are the after effects as if they care about those gambling addicted people,
nothing personal but they want to get attentions and money from those people who will read the articles.


Simply says in this quote " Good or Bad Publicity will still brings publicity" so that's what they are expressing on this.

also people nowadays must be diligent and observant and don't just jump into conclusions about what the media is feeding us.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: btc78 on June 17, 2021, 12:48:20 PM
is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.
But instead of being anti gambling why not make a information drive for how to handle gambling instead of telling them not to play because it is human nature that we love to do those things that is prohibited.
so not to ban gambling but to educate people instead.
and for me this is the best way to engage on this problems.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Peanutswar on June 17, 2021, 02:20:55 PM
We cannot remove the negative comment of other people because they might experience, hear, or see different people currently experiencing failure and success in gambling.

To those people who fail, it's sad on their part because some of them might be addicted already and losses, a lot of money, and their family, friends, or any acquaintances don't want to see them suffer anymore or the other future players.

To those who win a lot of money because they enjoy or jealous of those players who gain a lot in a single roll, we can not remove that it's part of the nature of the person.

Everywhere there's a negative comment and we admit this we cannot remove this belief.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: jrrsparkles on June 17, 2021, 02:27:37 PM
We cannot remove the negative comment of other people because they might experience, hear, or see different people currently experiencing failure and success in gambling.

To those people who fail, it's sad on their part because some of them might be addicted already and losses, a lot of money, and their family, friends, or any acquaintances don't want to see them suffer anymore or the other future players.

To those who win a lot of money because they enjoy or jealous of those players who gain a lot in a single roll, we can not remove that it's part of the nature of the person.

Everywhere there's a negative comment and we admit this we cannot remove this belief.
Religions also plays a huge role for the reason why people think that gambling is negative, and against the good soul, blah blah. But those people starts believing the blind beliefs but forgot to see what is the actual reason why it was considered as not right in the name of religion but now everything changed, but still some people keep the old beliefs for their personal benefits but if we look their personal life they will never follow anything what has been told in their holy book.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: michellee on June 17, 2021, 03:41:38 PM
is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.
But instead of being anti gambling why not make a information drive for how to handle gambling instead of telling them not to play because it is human nature that we love to do those things that is prohibited.
so not to ban gambling but to educate people instead.
and for me this is the best way to engage on this problems.
Maybe that is because people can forget about how to handle gambling and once they forget, they will hard to realize that they are like playing gambling and in the end, they can become addicted to gambling. If that happens, that will be too late to stop gambling, although that will not be impossible, especially if they can try hard to stop gambling.

The chance to win in gambling will not too big than losing the money. Gamblers should know about that and not trying hard to winning the games. Playing gambling with fun and not think about winning is what they need to do.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: RealMalatesta on June 17, 2021, 06:31:43 PM
Perhaps OP meant it relatively. Like making a comparison between the way gamblers and investors can loose in their fields subjectively and immediately paint it black. Especially when its got to do with trying of stocks for unexperienced investors. It always feels as though, the market is targeted on them. Other than this, then its very much to note that gambling and investing is mutually exclusive. They aren't the same or related in anyway. The tricks that works in investing and that of gambling are very much different. Gamblung is basically based on luck and a few experience but investing could be studied objectively and one could be acquinted with the tricks about it.
Unfortunately its always like that, people do not realize they are just statistics in a page and nothing more, they always think that "there is someone out to get me" in their minds, they always feel like they are being scammed while everyone else is doing fine, they are just that victim in their own movie, and they want to get it back fair and square by basically illegally harassing people without realizing it.

Unfortunately this is not even just about gambling, in many of the court cases of the world even the person who is charged usually plays the victim as a defense, not that "they didn't do it", that would be a good defense, no, they act as if they are the real victims and not the criminal as the defense. That is the key here, we have to realize people who lose something or do something wrong will always play the victim to get something.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 17, 2021, 08:13:13 PM
is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.
But instead of being anti gambling why not make a information drive for how to handle gambling instead of telling them not to play because it is human nature that we love to do those things that is prohibited.
so not to ban gambling but to educate people instead.
and for me this is the best way to engage on this problems.
Maybe that is because people can forget about how to handle gambling and once they forget, they will hard to realize that they are like playing gambling and in the end, they can become addicted to gambling. If that happens, that will be too late to stop gambling, although that will not be impossible, especially if they can try hard to stop gambling.

The chance to win in gambling will not too big than losing the money. Gamblers should know about that and not trying hard to winning the games. Playing gambling with fun and not think about winning is what they need to do.
Gambling should be fun and not a stressful one because people do really forget the true essence of gambling which it should really be for enrertainment.

People are just way too wishful that they can make out big money with gambling without realizing that the house are the only ones who do make big money out of those people who became addicted to it.

When you do play then think out of those funds to be lost already and dont hope back for some increase or make it big because this kind of bad
wishful thinking will create bad motivation.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: uneng on June 17, 2021, 08:31:48 PM
is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.
But instead of being anti gambling why not make a information drive for how to handle gambling instead of telling them not to play because it is human nature that we love to do those things that is prohibited.
so not to ban gambling but to educate people instead.
and for me this is the best way to engage on this problems.
Maybe that is because people can forget about how to handle gambling and once they forget, they will hard to realize that they are like playing gambling and in the end, they can become addicted to gambling. If that happens, that will be too late to stop gambling, although that will not be impossible, especially if they can try hard to stop gambling.

The chance to win in gambling will not too big than losing the money. Gamblers should know about that and not trying hard to winning the games. Playing gambling with fun and not think about winning is what they need to do.
Or maybe because people like to blame others for mistakes they or their relatives are responsible for. Instead of taking the responsability for the addiction, they prefer to say the gambling industry and the society are guilty for that. Furthermore, instead of trying to overcome this personal addiction in their lives, they pretend the solution to be anti-gambling propagandas to achieve a total ban of gambling activity in the world.
It makes me believe anti-gambling campaigns are vengeance tools used by people who don't know how to handle with gambling in a healthy way, so no one else can have some fun playing as well.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Fredomago on June 17, 2021, 08:47:59 PM

Or maybe because people like to blame others for mistakes they or their relatives are responsible for. Instead of taking the responsability for the addiction, they prefer to say the gambling industry and the society are guilty for that. Furthermore, instead of trying to overcome this personal addiction in their lives, they pretend the solution to be anti-gambling propagandas to achieve a total ban of gambling activity in the world.
It makes me believe anti-gambling campaigns are vengeance tools used by people who don't know how to handle with gambling in a healthy way, so no one else can have some fun playing as well.

Good point, there are many people who thinks that way, instead of admitting that they are  suffering from this addiction they are trying to point their fingers to other people. They are complaining instead of trying to help themselves in resolving the problem, we can't deny that fact that there are people who will push this propaganda in order completely removed this business.

They wanted to completely stop the facilitation it will bring them more comfort not to see someone enjoying, either  greed inside  or they don't want to see others treating gambling as good source of entertainment.


Title: Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign
Post by: Botnake on June 17, 2021, 08:57:07 PM

Or maybe because people like to blame others for mistakes they or their relatives are responsible for. Instead of taking the responsability for the addiction, they prefer to say the gambling industry and the society are guilty for that. Furthermore, instead of trying to overcome this personal addiction in their lives, they pretend the solution to be anti-gambling propagandas to achieve a total ban of gambling activity in the world.
It makes me believe anti-gambling campaigns are vengeance tools used by people who don't know how to handle with gambling in a healthy way, so no one else can have some fun playing as well.

Good point, there are many people who thinks that way, instead of admitting that they are  suffering from this addiction they are trying to point their fingers to other people. They are complaining instead of trying to help themselves in resolving the problem, we can't deny that fact that there are people who will push this propaganda in order completely removed this business.

They wanted to completely stop the facilitation it will bring them more comfort not to see someone enjoying, either  greed inside  or they don't want to see others treating gambling as good source of entertainment.

The gambling industry will never be removed, it already existed in so many centuries and it's already part of our culture. Maybe some countries consider gambling as a sin, so they'll remove it by making it illegal for citizens to gamble, but the majority of the world would still allow gambling.