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Title: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: AOBTCT6 on May 18, 2021, 01:25:16 PM
Here's a helping hand for anyone trying to beat the bookie long term.

We’ve created an instant email alert which detects value bets.

We find outliers where one sportsbook offers significantly higher odds than the rest of the market. These are positive expected value bets, so you’ll have an edge on the sportsbook and a good chance at long term profit!

The last 6 alerts have given the following expected value:

+8.89%
+7.29%
+8.08%
+7.15%
+7.13%
+9.99%

This is all a completely free service. Full information and sign-up form can be found here - https://bitodds.com/crypto-value-bet-alerts/
We also tweet the alerts here - https://twitter.com/Bitedgecom

The alerts come from the following crypto sportsbooks; Cloudbet, Stake, Sportsbet, Nitrogen, BetBTC and Betcoin.

Any feedback is welcome, and I hope you can be a successful long term bettor our the alerts!


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: Haunebu on May 18, 2021, 01:32:48 PM
Loved the site design and what you are offering here. Free value bets is easily the biggest pro of your site. Happy to see many popular crypto sportsbooks covered here since many rival sites usually include very few popular ones.

I like the fact that you are offering Twitter alerts too. Research must still be done, but these alerts will definitely help out. Will be checking your alerts regularly from now onwards.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: AOBTCT6 on May 18, 2021, 01:55:39 PM
Loved the site design and what you are offering here. Free value bets is easily the biggest pro of your site. Happy to see many popular crypto sportsbooks covered here since many rival sites usually include very few popular ones.

I like the fact that you are offering Twitter alerts too. Research must still be done, but these alerts will definitely help out. Will be checking your alerts regularly from now onwards.

Great to hear. Hopefully we can help you on your way to profitable betting!


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: nakamura12 on May 18, 2021, 04:00:50 PM
The design is neat and it is managed carefully. About the esports in your site, does king of glory game the rip off from LOL?. I am a player of games like that like dota 2, ML but I haven't know a sportsbook that does have ML to bet. As far as I'm concern, I only see 5 esports games to bet. Keep it up by the way.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: AOBTCT6 on May 18, 2021, 04:04:59 PM
The design is neat and it is managed carefully. About the esports in your site, does king of glory game the rip off from LOL?. I am a player of games like that like dota 2, ML but I haven't know a sportsbook that does have ML to bet. As far as I'm concern, I only see 5 esports games to bet. Keep it up by the way.

Yes, King of Glory is very similar to LOL! I've not seen any crypto sportsbooks offering odds on ML unfortunately. Cloudbet tends to have the best esports coverage, so keep an eye out there?


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: South Park on May 18, 2021, 04:58:50 PM
I took the time to read the explanation and this is very interesting, while I have seen some websites offering similar stuff especially when we talk about fiat casinos they do not explain how they get their numbers but you did in an amazingly concrete way, so congratulations, even if it is a free service now I can see the potential for this to eventually gain you paid subscriptions as they may want to have instant access to the best offers that can be found this way and they will be willing to pay for that service.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 19, 2021, 05:39:20 AM
The numbers that show explain them too well, they even use mathematical tools that I used a lot when I studied at university and you apply them with great skill, the truth is, I am surprised at how those tools apply to predict, it is like game theory mixed with probability , statistics and with some artificial intelligence.

Also taking into account that the site has a great design, it is necessary to emphasize that it has a unique authenticity, thank you very much for offering this service, I imagine that for now it will be free and when they start to gain followers it will be paid, but what you do is very good. .


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: AOBTCT6 on May 19, 2021, 10:07:42 AM
Thanks for the positive feedback!

There are no plans to make this a paid service, we have previously run other subscriptions for free and not converted to a charged service.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: aysg76 on May 19, 2021, 11:59:25 AM
It's really amazing to see new types of projects coming to market with growing crypto gambling market.Your site is offering odds comparison and providing the edge benefit for players which is good service.Above all all you need to do is signup and get your result free of cost.Develop for more games and provide odds for most of the games which can boost your site.Talking about UI it's nice and neat and no extra ads drop box which can be a distraction for users.Keep your work in the same way.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: YOSHIE on May 19, 2021, 03:09:16 PM
Yes, I am following their discussion at this time, for me it looks interesting to try, feedback about: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks (https://arbusers.com/index.php?topic=8037.0), a lot of positive support, this is something of an advancement for the sportsbook in attracting bettors, hopefully it will last long and bettors enjoy this option.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: nakamura12 on May 19, 2021, 07:03:49 PM


Yes, King of Glory is very similar to LOL! I've not seen any crypto sportsbooks offering odds on ML unfortunately. Cloudbet tends to have the best esports coverage, so keep an eye out there?
Cloudbet does have many esports coverage but most of the games they have is that don't play except dota 2 and warcraft but I have been watching streams of valorant cs go and I played LOL a few times which I an confused about the items to build. About the king of glory, I think it's the same as honor of kings which have a lot of similarities to mobile legend.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 20, 2021, 12:28:57 AM


Yes, King of Glory is very similar to LOL! I've not seen any crypto sportsbooks offering odds on ML unfortunately. Cloudbet tends to have the best esports coverage, so keep an eye out there?
Cloudbet does have many esports coverage but most of the games they have is that don't play except dota 2 and warcraft but I have been watching streams of valorant cs go and I played LOL a few times which I an confused about the items to build. About the king of glory, I think it's the same as honor of kings which have a lot of similarities to mobile legend.

I don't have much experience in cloudbet, but now I'm liking it, specifically because of warcraft, for many years I have played all versions of Warcraft, now the one that cloudbet offers is the best, it has really had me quite entertained, Dota I have not played, but Warcraft promises a lot, I hope you can continue with all this development. On the other hand, King Of Glory is one of the games that are most addicted, at least for me, I have used many sports betting platforms, including stake.com, sportsbet, freebitco.in, and cloudbet I have not made bets yet, but the truth it catches my attention.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: tyz on May 20, 2021, 08:49:34 AM
Interesting site. Since I am registered with all betting providers anyway, I will follow the bets for a while and look if the alerts work.

But I still have a question: I myself have tried to develop a similar service in the past, but only for private use. Unfortunately none of the sports sites offered an API. Do you have access to an API or do you just scrape the data from the respective site?


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: Pmalek on May 20, 2021, 01:34:09 PM
Your site says that crypto sportsbooks cant limit a player's account for taking advantage of these type of value bets or arbitrage betting, but I doubt they haven't or wont look to develop systems to stop it. It doesn't really go in their favor that players get some kind of helping hand that guarantees or makes it easier for them to win.

Does anyone have any real-life experience in getting their betting accounts limited/blocked for taking advantage of such bets? Even though you are supposed to be anonymous on crypto sportsbooks, many of them ask for KYC verification in case of big wins or if they suspect something is off.   


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: South Park on May 22, 2021, 03:12:41 PM
Your site says that crypto sportsbooks cant limit a player's account for taking advantage of these type of value bets or arbitrage betting, but I doubt they haven't or wont look to develop systems to stop it. It doesn't really go in their favor that players get some kind of helping hand that guarantees or makes it easier for them to win.

Does anyone have any real-life experience in getting their betting accounts limited/blocked for taking advantage of such bets? Even though you are supposed to be anonymous on crypto sportsbooks, many of them ask for KYC verification in case of big wins or if they suspect something is off.   
It is unlikely they are going to close your account but most likely they are going to limit it, after all if you are a long term winning player that will put you on their radar, the easiest way they have to find the players that use arbitrage betting is to see the kind of markets you bet, regular gamblers will have a few markets they prefer and will not deviate from it, but a player that has an advantage over the casino will play many more markets making it obvious they are expert gamblers which are not playing just for fun.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: fiulpro on May 22, 2021, 04:49:26 PM
This is actually intellegent. But I think the only way people will start engaging in this would be : If you start incorporating more sites here. But at the same time:

Will the sports betting companies allow such things ?
Then again players always do this thing manually and it's not breaking the laws, is it. But still I think if you are going to make it professional. It never hurts to take the consent of the listed sites.
Your site says that crypto sportsbooks cant limit a player's account for taking advantage of these type of value bets or arbitrage betting, but I doubt they haven't or wont look to develop systems to stop it. It doesn't really go in their favor that players get some kind of helping hand that guarantees or makes it easier for them to win.

Does anyone have any real-life experience in getting their betting accounts limited/blocked for taking advantage of such bets? Even though you are supposed to be anonymous on crypto sportsbooks, many of them ask for KYC verification in case of big wins or if they suspect something is off.   

I do not think that it's going to be a probelm since what they are providing here can be manually done too but it's a fast forward and simpler way.

• But ofc they can make sure that their business stays in business therefore be careful while engaging in such things but at the same time kudos for providing it for free to all the players.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: SmokerFace on December 27, 2021, 03:18:23 PM
A good step for knowing the value bets also you are offering this service for free, indeed it's a good step.
Visited your website and found that the design of this site is really good and all the content is well managed. A totally user-friendly website. I wish you good luck with this website.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: mardaed on December 27, 2021, 03:47:08 PM
It is very interesting to see that you can get certain advantages with a bookmaker. Aren't the chances great that they will take measures against that? It does not seem to me that bookmakers just let themselves be stolen and actually just give away free money. There will normally be something in the general terms and conditions. Still, be careful with something like that. Or you have to stay under the radar and spread it.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: mak013 on December 29, 2021, 01:09:16 PM
Site has nice design but i don`t understand the goal of it. The one thing that is interesting for use - is compare of the bookies odds. Even if i see the advantage and the true odds - i can`t increase my win chances. And there are huge quantity of types of bet, not only win or lose. I don`t think that it`s possible to check all the choices.
It can maximize the profit but we need to use all bookies, to choose the best. I don`t ready to change bookie every bet, but for someone it can be useful.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: pieppiep on December 29, 2021, 04:14:39 PM
Site has nice design but i don`t understand the goal of it. The one thing that is interesting for use - is compare of the bookies odds. Even if i see the advantage and the true odds - i can`t increase my win chances. And there are huge quantity of types of bet, not only win or lose. I don`t think that it`s possible to check all the choices.
It can maximize the profit but we need to use all bookies, to choose the best. I don`t ready to change bookie every bet, but for someone it can be useful.
You'll never know if you don't try by yourself ;D

That will be useful for people who understand how to use the data and will help them get more info about the match and maybe they will have a chance to increase their win chances by gathering additional data from that site.

But still, it will consume more time if they have much info from many resources so they must manage their time to place the bet at the right time.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: cafucafucafu on December 29, 2021, 11:26:02 PM
Are these expected values calculated by yourself subjectively, or are these surebets with expected value?

The two is very different. One requires you to be right in your modelling, the other is a mathematical proposition.

Also, do these consider the costs of moving crypto around casinos? That can destroy the +EV opportunity.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: mak013 on December 30, 2021, 07:42:22 AM
Site has nice design but i don`t understand the goal of it. The one thing that is interesting for use - is compare of the bookies odds. Even if i see the advantage and the true odds - i can`t increase my win chances. And there are huge quantity of types of bet, not only win or lose. I don`t think that it`s possible to check all the choices.
It can maximize the profit but we need to use all bookies, to choose the best. I don`t ready to change bookie every bet, but for someone it can be useful.
You'll never know if you don't try by yourself ;D

That will be useful for people who understand how to use the data and will help them get more info about the match and maybe they will have a chance to increase their win chances by gathering additional data from that site.

But still, it will consume more time if they have much info from many resources so they must manage their time to place the bet at the right time.
Of course any information can`t be useless. But before spending time for data processing i have to calculate, what will be more profitable - to spent time reading this information or looking for another interesting odds.
And i don`t think that it can increase winning chances, only increase profit - you know yourself what event to bet and here you can choose bookie with the best odd.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: pieppiep on December 30, 2021, 11:45:31 AM
Site has nice design but i don`t understand the goal of it. The one thing that is interesting for use - is compare of the bookies odds. Even if i see the advantage and the true odds - i can`t increase my win chances. And there are huge quantity of types of bet, not only win or lose. I don`t think that it`s possible to check all the choices.
It can maximize the profit but we need to use all bookies, to choose the best. I don`t ready to change bookie every bet, but for someone it can be useful.
You'll never know if you don't try by yourself ;D

That will be useful for people who understand how to use the data and will help them get more info about the match and maybe they will have a chance to increase their win chances by gathering additional data from that site.

But still, it will consume more time if they have much info from many resources so they must manage their time to place the bet at the right time.
Of course any information can`t be useless. But before spending time for data processing i have to calculate, what will be more profitable - to spent time reading this information or looking for another interesting odds.
And i don`t think that it can increase winning chances, only increase profit - you know yourself what event to bet and here you can choose bookie with the best odd.
Maybe you can use both to have more information and know what you should bet. Yep, we don't know if that can increase the chances of winning, but we never know for sure if we don't try. But that will depend on how you will use that data because we are free to use it or leave it.

Those who are familiar and can analyze faster than others will be glad to use the other information because that can give them additional information that can help them decide.


Title: Re: Positive Expected Value Bet Alerts - Get an edge on the crypto sportsbooks
Post by: mak013 on December 31, 2021, 02:15:18 PM
Of course any information can`t be useless. But before spending time for data processing i have to calculate, what will be more profitable - to spent time reading this information or looking for another interesting odds.
And i don`t think that it can increase winning chances, only increase profit - you know yourself what event to bet and here you can choose bookie with the best odd.
Maybe you can use both to have more information and know what you should bet. Yep, we don't know if that can increase the chances of winning, but we never know for sure if we don't try. But that will depend on how you will use that data because we are free to use it or leave it.

Those who are familiar and can analyze faster than others will be glad to use the other information because that can give them additional information that can help them decide.
This is maths - there is nothing to try here. If the strategy is to analyze bookies odds - this is enough bad strategy. More useful is to check the event information, for sports stakes - who is ill, who played several times a week, who wants promote for example. This will help to choose decision, and the bookies odds mostly not far one from another. With this service we can choose the best odd.
But you are right - this information is free, so everybody can try to use it as he wants.