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Easy call

How so it won't be able to stay above 40k though? Are there evidence to prove that it won't be able to do that? I always find most of your calls about prices going down don't have any backing claims to corroborate or support it, you are just wishing that it goes down and hope that you are right.

Easy call, but what's your basis? hehe.

of course, mate bitcoin will continue to dump, it's the bearish sentiment we will witness in the following days, and it's even possible that bitcoin will fall below $30k like what we almost witness today.

It's a crazy dump, some people called it super dip.. but how low it will go?

Easy call, make a ton of predictions one of them will stick and you can call yourself a proclaimed expert.  Dime a dozen.  These threads will never cease to exist.  You should throw all your savings into a massive short position and kill it.

Exactly! There has never been a more obvious short win in human history.

So you are saying that you are shorting Bitcoin currently?

But would you have any money left to short it for all the times you probably wanted to on the way up to 60k?  If you had the brrrrr machine then I guess but you can't cherry pick in this game can you?

Too easy.

Good prediction.
 
What's next?

1 more day and 10 days that you have prediction that we won't be seeing $40k again is about to end. But there's just one thing that you've missed.

Bitcoin actually went back to $40k last two days ago and the other one was on May 20, $41k.

The fact that it failed to stay above $40K is alarming. Another issue that is alarming is that whenever there was bullish news released Bitcoin either didn’t pump or it pumped by got faded. This isn’t a good sign.

I don’t think $30K will break however. We might trade sideways for the next few weeks or months and break $42 K then.

Right now I wouldn’t be in any position. There is tons of chop now.

But I said "10 consecutive days". Bitcoin needs to stay at or above $40k for 10 days in a row. Never gonna happen.

^ That is the reason why BTC prices keep dumping or stable at the price of $30k because institutions enjoy playing on the market, it seems they are now big whales that almost manipulate the market through their money. There is no accurate answer for this, we are all speculating the market price. Just look around and you will send that there is more institutions again that wanted to invest in BTC using their own. Nevertheless, at a range of $40k, is very impossible to happen.

:(

Just dropped again to $34,950.

It circulates to that idea that we're all speculating and bitcoin is a speculative asset that's also being tackled by these institutions and by the media. Whatever is the factor that makes it drop for now, just keep the faith and HODL if you're a long term holder.

What's the mathematical proof for that? Aren't you a proud "mathematician" of bitcoin prices going down and never coming back? How come all of your replies don't even have hint of math, you can't just call it mathematical or scientific without providing any evidence.

Perhaps on the short-term, yes, but the bearish sentiment has its own ends and it's not as if it's always rainy days in the bitcoin market. We have had similar calls like this in the past and what happened is that even though the rest of the world is in turmoil, bitcoin pushed through and outperformed assets that were projected to tough it out in the midst of a stagnant economy and loss of millions of jobs. I guess in the next 4 years, perhaps we will see yet another massive turnaround.

Bitcoin will stay above $30k (a more than 300% increase compared to one year ago) for 10 consecutive days. Too easy.

have you read it carefully? "Wont Stay for 10 straight days" in 40k.

and i think whats market is showing now this make sense.


for how many days that the price of bitcoin only touching 37,000 but can't be able to break 38,000 and above.

if this continues then the possibilities of staying low is there.

it's going Up now mate, look at the movement today

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/

closing to break the 38,000 and after that barricade we will see another 40k breaking and then 50k to the final stage this year ? 100,000  ;D

Just wait and see mate, you will regret this post in the end year.

I guarantee you I won't regret it. That's the benefit of a perfect mathematical and scientific model.

It seems you got this one correct, until now, the price of Bitcoin has not reached the $40k mark, but if you got this one correct I doubt in the next ten days you'll still get it right, the price is now moving fine and there's a possibility that it will reach $40k in a few days now, the market is really struggling but we are still in a bull trend.

there is no analysis that always works, as well as this, yes I hope,
because if Bitcoin can't stay above $40k it will certainly be very worrying, because maybe bears can take over bullish,
don't let your careless if you still hold altcoins and bitcoins

Yeah proof please . Show us the maths

It's too technical to produce here and requires sophisticated knowledge of Chinese and Russian mathematical models and confirmed news sources.

Ha ha ha ok

Hopefully you understand now. One thing worth looking into is confirming. It has a technical definition which I established (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412280.620) some years ago. I can confirm that my maths and science are confirmed.

Reading between the lines you are completely wrong as history has CONFIRMED

BTC Price on 12 January 2014  $863  Today $36,800
??????????..

Now I understand  ;)

Still good

We are pretty sure Proudhon will open other threads such as "Bitcoin will not be able to stay above $100k for 10 consecutive days ever again" and "Bitcoin will not be able to stay above $110k for 10 consecutive days ever again"...by the end of this year. Let's wait and see...

No analysis whatsoever.
Just pure prediction.
Predicted that Bitcoin will not stay above $30,000 for 10 consecutive days and it got broke. Now $40,000 again.

I don't know if its a bit sarcastic or there is a double meaning behind it. Anyway, just continue what you are doing :). Many fell into your sarcastic predictions :D.

We are free to predict, but we also need to be more wise on making decision. Because predictions may become right or wrong but the most important is that we will not invest all we have because we believe in others prediction we need to buy or sell depending on our own limitation and our way of making profit because if we did it wrong we will surely loss.

Bitcoin is always struggling because of some greedy investors, and for sure it will never break 40k again if such activity will keep happening every time bitcoin were gradually gaining strength to increase. In fact there's no bad news when it comes to it after the sudden increased in the market. So what do you guys thinking why this is happening?.because seems this situation isn't a correction anymore. Lol

The days in which Bitcoin will ever be under $40k are getting very limited. Very possible this month is the last time we see sub-$40k prices. Exciting times, especially when a year ago the price was still languishing at $10k.

Bitcoin is whaling it is smoking hot for anyone that is mining it right now.


here is the math

all time  high diff = 25.04 price at this 2 week time  May 13-May 29 was 33-50

current diff = 14.45 price at this 2 week time is 38-41


to understand this above

25.04/14.45 = 1.73

so for every coin earned back in may you now earn 1.73


so pick the low price for now of 38k x 1.73 = 65.74 k


what was the price during peak diff 33-50. so you are better off now even if you look at peak number of 50k during the May 13-May 29

Miners are whaling smoking hot.

go back more to April 14 coins were 63.39k

diff was 23.13

so today 23.13/14.45 = a factor of 1.60. plug in current price this jump of 39,288 and

39,288 x 1.60 = 62,887


so a miner right now is under 1 % off  the  same daily profit spot of April 14 when coins were 63.39k


62.887/63.39 = 99.2%


So it is not bear at all for miners..


for traders that purchased above 50k its is almost bear

for traders that purchased above 63k it is close to bear

But you can't leave out hodl they do not care at all.

so this is not a bear.

In order for it to be bear we need to get up and over 70k we diff to climb back to 25.05T

we then need the crash in price and diff need to be stable or growing


look at dec 2017 20k price and diff was 1.93

and in oct 2018 7k  price and diff was 7.32 t


April 2021 64k price with  diff of 25.04 t
Aug 2021  39k price diff of 14.44 t


is no where close to bear.




to quote Chris Rock "Lil Kim is richer than Oprah"

a reference to a Chris Rock stand up bit. IIRC

This thread is an example of why you never trust idiots to make predictions like these without any research. Interested in what OP has to say about his mathematical models LOL.

His "models" are very precise (/s). I call them "numbers out of the belly".
The accuracy is very well shown by his other post:


Now, I just don't take him serious. But unfortunately some do. Some others tag him for trolling; it's clearly deserved too.

I do tend to appreciate looking at the bottoms rather than the tops, but even when we are looking at bottoms we have to be careful to make those kinds of statements, such as "bitcoin will never spend more than 10 consecutive days below  $40k ever again" - even though we might be pretty damned safe to say that about $20k or maybe even have a quite a bit of safety to say that about $30k.. but as we go up to higher and higher BTC price bottom levels it becomes dangerous to make those kinds of statements about the bottom - even though at some point, it will seem to become pretty safe to make those kinds of bottom statements.

The top, on the other hand, seems to have no limits, even though sometimes it may well take a while to get to the top numbers, including getting back to $69k, as you mentioned that current top number NeuroticFish.

By the way, I find the weekly moving average numbers to be great lagging indicators regarding the bottom.. and tend to work with 208, 104, 52 and 26, which would be the average BTC trading prices for 4 years, 2 years, 1 year and 6 months respectively, so now they are at $17,500, $27,500, $44,700 and $46,700 respectively. 

So historically in bitcoin sometimes even the lower and longer-term weekly moving average prices do end up getting reached and breached.. so the longer the period, the more conservative it is in terms of how long the BTC price might be able to stay below such price points, whether 10 days or not.. or whether we might be in a bear market or just experiencing some kind of short-term crash... which sometimes can take a bit of a longer vision of bitcoin and maybe some time studying and analyzing to attempt to appreciate these kinds of price bottom matters and how long the BTC price might be able to stay below certain weekly moving average price points.   

Nice theory for those who have the patience to read it.

Unfortunately the troll will not care about the theory and will not be careful with his predictions, which are targeted towards those afraid they'll lost their profit in every dip - big or small. And, sadly, I expect some (maybe too many) of those will read the title and maybe the first post, not much else.

A proper prediction for bitcoin is based on some logic (TA) and it's for short term. If a prediction comes with "never", or, like we see int he news, with no "deadline"... those are made only to draw attention and nothing else. People should learn to not take them serious.

I remember reading this thread back in May and didn’t think it would come true but the OP was correct until end of Summer. Basically it went below $40K and had trouble closing above it until it bottomed out in July and then at the end of July is had the rally all the way to the new ATH.

Like the above poster has said, the top don’t really matter. In Bitcoin the tops are difficult to predict and almost nobody can sell the top, what matters is the bottom and I think except for March 2020 and 2014, Bitcoin usually never had a yearly low lower than the previous yearly low.