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Title: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: adriaparcerisas on May 26, 2021, 10:14:49 AM
Hello community,

I want to start a topic that I think is interesting for the immediate future of cryptocurrency investors, the inflation. One of the consequences of the global pandemic we are experiencing seems almost certain to be the injection of money into the world's economies at levels never seen before. This will undoubtedly lead to an increase in inflation.

I leave you the link (https://www.docdroid.net/H1fuimX/the-great-monetary-inflation-pdf (https://www.docdroid.net/H1fuimX/the-great-monetary-inflation-pdf)) to a paper by a very well known and knowledgeable on the subject that talks about the performance of Central Banks and different ways to protect our assets against possible inflation. In my opinion there are very coherent things that are worth knowing. It is true that I personally disagree on some points but in general, I think it will be useful for everyone. Here is an image of the ways to protect our assets that Mr. Tudor Jones talks about in his article:

 https://i.imgur.com/jQ8uR9z.png


I think you might find it interesting and helpful. I hope you find it useful and give your opinion on the subject.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Poker Player on May 26, 2021, 10:26:19 AM
Since we are in a Bitcoin forum, it is normal to think that the best protection against inflation is Bitcoin. And it is not that it is (only) a distorted thought, the (short) history of the Bitcoin proves it to us.

Then there are other things that are debatable. Gold today is not bad, but if most of the money that is invested in gold goes to Bitcoin, it will not serve to protect much. That's what has happened this past year.

NASDAQ 100, OK. I prefer the S&P 500 which is more diversified in sectors. The NASDAQ 100 has been more profitable than the S&P 500 in recent years but that can change at any time.

Then I also miss good, well-located, Real State on that list.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on May 26, 2021, 10:37:32 AM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: paxmao on May 26, 2021, 10:38:34 AM
The classics against inflation are physical goods and assets. Namely, these are:

- Gold and other precious metals. Gold is more stable, but palladium, platinum and others work well.
- Real state. It does not get more "real asset" than this. Land has a multi-millennial tailwind due to population growth.
- Art and other alternative assets.
- Commodities other than metals.

As we all know, bitcoin can also act as a defence against inflation, but only when considered long term or hyperinflation due to its inherent volatility.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Strongkored on May 26, 2021, 11:28:56 AM
I believe that there will be many answers Bitcoin is, that understandable because this is a forum about Bitcoin, but it will only run properly if we do it for the long term, gold and stock can also be chosen to protect from inflation

Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection
We cannot protect from inflation with just by putting money in the bank, the amount will remain the same but the value will decrease as inflation increases.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Hydrogen on May 26, 2021, 11:44:53 AM
Inflation protection normally implies investing and holding assets that appreciate in value, at a greater rate than inflation depreciates wealth.

If inflation is 3% per year. We must invest in assets that payout 3% in annual percentage yield just to break even.

What complicates matters is inflation protection assets generally being in high demand during recessions or eras defined by high fiat printing, when inflation becomes a real concern. Every financial crisis and recession has its own unique identity and persona.

The current era is a very difficult one to find legitimate inflation protected assets in. Commodities like gold, silver and oil. Bonds and bitcoin. Everything is under siege, being devalued or under some type of attack at the moment. Economists and financial gurus are scratching their heads wondering why the price of gold and silver are not climbing. Bitcoin likewise could consistently be appreciating in value as an inflation protected asset.

The big question is: where should people put their money to protect it from inflation in 2021. There are no easy answers to this question that I know of. Circumstances are difficult everywhere.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: a.a on May 26, 2021, 11:53:34 AM
Inflation is per se not a bad thing. If you live in a country with 1-2 % inflation, then it is used to "force" people to invest reasonably. It is actually motivating the economy to invest.

If you live in a country were the inflation is negative, like Japan, it means that the people are holding their savings, in the hope that it will get more value over the time. Thus killing the economy, as the private sector is the actual engine of the economy.

If you live in a country were the inflation is very high, like 40%, it means that the people have to earn more and more money to buy less and less stuff. Thus killing the economy by having no way for companies to save money for bigger investments, demotivating the banks in giving credits with reasonable interest. Thus making the owners of gold and land etc.. de facto richer and richer.

And to be honest... if you think a little bit out of the box, then paying Gas money on Eth or the fee on bitcoin transaction or simply the constant unlimited mining like AltCoins of Doge to be the equivalent of inflation, as it is constantly devalueing the currency you have.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Kittygalore on May 26, 2021, 11:55:57 AM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.
I think that gold and real estate is the best hedge for inflation followed by stocks and bitcoin and I don't like that you mention banks because they aren't client friendly and they have a lot of paperwork to do but give a meager interest. I do agree that bitcoin isn't a good hedge since the volatility is pretty high.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Mauser on May 26, 2021, 12:12:11 PM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.
I think that gold and real estate is the best hedge for inflation followed by stocks and bitcoin and I don't like that you mention banks because they aren't client friendly and they have a lot of paperwork to do but give a meager interest. I do agree that bitcoin isn't a good hedge since the volatility is pretty high.

I agree with you, savings accounts at a bank are not very attractive  at the moment. For the last 5 years at least was the interest rate on the savings account below the inflation rate. On top of that are the bank fees rising. In my opinion going for banks is not a very attractive investment at the moment. The only real alternative are TIPS but these are treasury bonds and not really from the banks itself. So going for Gold and Crypto Currencies is the best way to protect ourself from inflation in my opinion.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: arwin100 on May 26, 2021, 12:30:29 PM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.
I think that gold and real estate is the best hedge for inflation followed by stocks and bitcoin and I don't like that you mention banks because they aren't client friendly and they have a lot of paperwork to do but give a meager interest. I do agree that bitcoin isn't a good hedge since the volatility is pretty high.

I agree with you, savings accounts at a bank are not very attractive  at the moment. For the last 5 years at least was the interest rate on the savings account below the inflation rate. On top of that are the bank fees rising. In my opinion going for banks is not a very attractive investment at the moment. The only real alternative are TIPS but these are treasury bonds and not really from the banks itself. So going for Gold and Crypto Currencies is the best way to protect ourself from inflation in my opinion.

Well if you let your money sit on the banks then we can expect that we will be affected on inflation since provably the returns given by the bank for over the years is so small compare to the market flux happening, but if your kinda right if you invest your money in profitable areas well possibly you cannot feel the inflation since your money is earning decently with those kind of investments you choose.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on May 26, 2021, 01:24:09 PM
I agree with you, savings accounts at a bank are not very attractive  at the moment. For the last 5 years at least was the interest rate on the savings account below the inflation rate. On top of that are the bank fees rising. In my opinion going for banks is not a very attractive investment at the moment. The only real alternative are TIPS but these are treasury bonds and not really from the banks itself. So going for Gold and Crypto Currencies is the best way to protect ourself from inflation in my opinion.

That is not surprising. Because the argument is that you need to pay fee on the services that the bank is providing to you. They are storing your money and providing you access to debit cards and ATMs. That is the reason why the savings interest rate is much below the annual inflation rate. Nowhere in the world, you will find savings interest at a rate that is above the prevailing inflation rate. And in countries such as Japan, they have started to implement negative interest rates (which is not surprising, given the very low inflation rate there).


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Kittygalore on May 26, 2021, 01:58:00 PM
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I agree with you, savings accounts at a bank are not very attractive  at the moment. For the last 5 years at least was the interest rate on the savings account below the inflation rate. On top of that are the bank fees rising. In my opinion going for banks is not a very attractive investment at the moment. The only real alternative are TIPS but these are treasury bonds and not really from the banks itself. So going for Gold and Crypto Currencies is the best way to protect ourself from inflation in my opinion.
Savings account isn't how it used to be, back then the returns are around the 2 digit percentage but right now, you are probably lucky to find a savings account that has 1%. We also have to consider that we shouldn't put everything that we own in our investments, remember that things could go wrong when you are investing and it sure as hell, you don't want all your money lost in one shot.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Ucy on May 26, 2021, 04:08:35 PM
Depends on how well the printed money would be used.

I'd probably buy up very useful things(like crypto) that have shared value, I have full control of,  that are limited (or scarce) in supply, have high demand, are easily divisible, benefits "stakeholders" when price goes up and benefits productions of essential/basic goods and services.
I don't think it's a good idea to buy up and hold essential goods/services that keep going up in price and become expensive for others to have


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Gozie51 on May 26, 2021, 05:31:51 PM
The difference when talking about inflation and relating to bitcoin is that , bitcoin is an asset that it's increase or decrease is not having any relationship to inflation. That is whether there is inflation in the society or a particular society is not going to affect the price of bitcoin because it is decentralised and a global asset. But on the other side, inflation can affect the value placed on the purchasing power or strength of it.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: uneng on May 26, 2021, 06:44:20 PM
From that list I'm not familiar with most investments, so I can't say how good each of them is. But from my experience I think bitcoin is the best way to protect your money against inflation nowadays and one reason for that it's because it is easily reachable for anyone and you can invest small amounts of money and still have decent chances to turn it into profit on long run, while protecting your money against inflation.
Another investments demand a lot more money if you want to turn it into a considerable profit or passive income, furthermore there is also much more bureaucracy to be fullfiled. Such inconveniences only worth if the person is going to invest a lot of money. Without any doubts for the average joe bitcoin is the best option.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: teosanru on May 26, 2021, 06:59:40 PM
Don't you think the question itself is quite wrong? Do we only need protection against inflation? I mean if the intent of investment is to merely get protected against inflation then even a Bank term deposit could help you with it. The question is to maximize your returns and we have the best data charts and historical analysis to tell that Bitcoin has proven to be the best asset with the highest returns ever. Not just bitcoins but many other cryptos have given even higher returns than bitcoin has given. So if our intent is merely to get a higher return then just throw your money in any undervalued crypto and let the magic happen. The best thing you can do is HODL or otherwise some positional trading by averaging yourself on every major dip. What is the need to read any such lengthy paper I don't get it?


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: DigitalFox on May 26, 2021, 07:06:46 PM
From that list I'm not familiar with most investments, so I can't say how good each of them is. But from my experience I think bitcoin is the best way to protect your money against inflation nowadays and one reason for that it's because it is easily reachable for anyone and you can invest small amounts of money and still have decent chances to turn it into profit on long run, while protecting your money against inflation.
Another investments demand a lot more money if you want to turn it into a considerable profit or passive income, furthermore there is also much more bureaucracy to be fullfiled. Such inconveniences only worth if the person is going to invest a lot of money. Without any doubts for the average joe bitcoin is the best option.

If you have just a little you wouldn't care about inflation. If you have more, then gold is still considered as the best investment by majority of people, especially in Asia, where it's common to buy it when you have extra cash and sell it whenever you need. Absolutely no paperwork is required. Unfortunately crypto can't take that place due to its volatility, you can only consider it as a long term investment.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: uneng on May 26, 2021, 09:46:29 PM
From that list I'm not familiar with most investments, so I can't say how good each of them is. But from my experience I think bitcoin is the best way to protect your money against inflation nowadays and one reason for that it's because it is easily reachable for anyone and you can invest small amounts of money and still have decent chances to turn it into profit on long run, while protecting your money against inflation.
Another investments demand a lot more money if you want to turn it into a considerable profit or passive income, furthermore there is also much more bureaucracy to be fullfiled. Such inconveniences only worth if the person is going to invest a lot of money. Without any doubts for the average joe bitcoin is the best option.

If you have just a little you wouldn't care about inflation.
I think everyone should worry about inflation, even those who save little, because futurely their savings will be wasted if they don't do it in the correct way, that is avoiding fiat at all costs.

If you have more, then gold is still considered as the best investment by majority of people, especially in Asia, where it's common to buy it when you have extra cash and sell it whenever you need. Absolutely no paperwork is required. Unfortunately crypto can't take that place due to its volatility, you can only consider it as a long term investment.
Yes, if the goal is to keep the money's value on short run, gold is a good idea, because it's a pretty stable investment, so you can avoid fiat's depreciation and crypto's high volatility at same time. On the other hand, it's not possible to make much profit from this investment. On this aspect crypto is superior.

And nice to see people in Asia are educated to invest their money this way. Where I live the common sense is to just spend money until the last penny is over.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on May 26, 2021, 10:35:59 PM
I believe that in this world, there are only two things that will continue on, it's change and inflation. Even the universe is expanding, which is a bit of a stretch but you could still consider that inflation. But I digress, store of value has definitely helped preserve the treasures and riches of the most influential people in the planet as of late, which by the way run amidst multiple crashes and economic downfalls. So it's no surprise but if one should happen within our lifetime, we could expect gold and bitcoin to save our asses.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: DigitalFox on May 27, 2021, 07:01:43 AM
From that list I'm not familiar with most investments, so I can't say how good each of them is. But from my experience I think bitcoin is the best way to protect your money against inflation nowadays and one reason for that it's because it is easily reachable for anyone and you can invest small amounts of money and still have decent chances to turn it into profit on long run, while protecting your money against inflation.
Another investments demand a lot more money if you want to turn it into a considerable profit or passive income, furthermore there is also much more bureaucracy to be fullfiled. Such inconveniences only worth if the person is going to invest a lot of money. Without any doubts for the average joe bitcoin is the best option.

If you have just a little you wouldn't care about inflation.
I think everyone should worry about inflation, even those who save little, because futurely their savings will be wasted if they don't do it in the correct way, that is avoiding fiat at all costs.

What we think is irrelevant, people still do weird things :)

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If you have more, then gold is still considered as the best investment by majority of people, especially in Asia, where it's common to buy it when you have extra cash and sell it whenever you need. Absolutely no paperwork is required. Unfortunately crypto can't take that place due to its volatility, you can only consider it as a long term investment.
Yes, if the goal is to keep the money's value on short run, gold is a good idea, because it's a pretty stable investment, so you can avoid fiat's depreciation and crypto's high volatility at same time. On the other hand, it's not possible to make much profit from this investment. On this aspect crypto is superior.

And nice to see people in Asia are educated to invest their money this way. Where I live the common sense is to just spend money until the last penny is over.

I'd take that with a grain of salt. Asians love to show off, so when someone buys gold here first they usually make sure everyone sees them wearing it but next day things change and they sell it back to use the cash. Strategic planning isn't a strong thing here either.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Obito on May 27, 2021, 07:35:57 AM
I believe that in this world, there are only two things that will continue on, it's change and inflation. Even the universe is expanding, which is a bit of a stretch but you could still consider that inflation. But I digress, store of value has definitely helped preserve the treasures and riches of the most influential people in the planet as of late, which by the way run amidst multiple crashes and economic downfalls. So it's no surprise but if one should happen within our lifetime, we could expect gold and bitcoin to save our asses.
Bitcoin isn't the best one though, look at the prices right now, a lot of investors got their investments cut in almost half during the recent price dip. It does pprotect from inflation but the volatility makes it uncertain whether you are protected or you will have more loss. In my opinion, the best hedge for inflation would probably be real estate, stock and gold but the real estate is beneficial only if it is an residential building where you can make money for rent. Stocks are better because their volatility aren't that erratic and they almost always go up in the future.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: el kaka22 on May 27, 2021, 04:58:11 PM
I really wouldn't believe anything at all from this list, they look horrible. Gold is the only one that I may trust but all those nasdaq ones, jp morgans and all that are basically horrible. Yet that bitcoin one shines as brightest there, it is a great one and I can't think of anything better to fight against inflation. This is why I think there is a chance that others could be doing some profits in the short term but there is really not chance that it could be a profitable thing at the long term.

Number one there is bitcoin and number two is gold and all the rest is equally bad if you ask me. At the end of the day there is a chance bitcoin could still reach to 1 million each, it is not going to be right now but I believe it is possible in the next 10 years and that is an amazing long term investment potential.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Leviathan.007 on June 06, 2021, 06:18:47 AM
More than anything, to stay away from inflation you need some knowledge all these investment options you mentioned above are good if you know how they work, these are in different markets with different price actions and price fluctuation. We all know in order to stay away from inflation and protect your funds you need to invest somewhere, if you get your own investment plan and be careful about risk management and money management any market you mentioned above can be profitable.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Beparanf on June 06, 2021, 06:31:53 AM
I believe that in this world, there are only two things that will continue on, it's change and inflation. Even the universe is expanding, which is a bit of a stretch but you could still consider that inflation. But I digress, store of value has definitely helped preserve the treasures and riches of the most influential people in the planet as of late, which by the way run amidst multiple crashes and economic downfalls. So it's no surprise but if one should happen within our lifetime, we could expect gold and bitcoin to save our asses.
Bitcoin isn't the best one though, look at the prices right now, a lot of investors got their investments cut in almost half during the recent price dip. It does pprotect from inflation but the volatility makes it uncertain whether you are protected or you will have more loss. In my opinion, the best hedge for inflation would probably be real estate, stock and gold but the real estate is beneficial only if it is an residential building where you can make money for rent. Stocks are better because their volatility aren't that erratic and they almost always go up in the future.

I agree on gold and real state but not full agree on stock. It depends on the type of stocks you are purchasing since the stocks are highly dependent on the performance of the company which can be affected by inflation. I believe gold and other asset with known increasing value for a long time is the best asset to invest with for avoiding as much as possible the inflation.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: bittraffic on June 06, 2021, 06:43:02 AM

Digital assets like BTC and ETH should be the best because their price is going to be higher compare to the USD or stablecoin. When you hedge don't just go to USDT because after a year or two it's still going to be the same amount of stablecoin you have unless you stake it on Defi project which is also your option to protect yourself from inflation.

Don't go for stocks because these are literally not yours, that only you have is the contract right but it's not in your wallet.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on June 06, 2021, 07:25:11 AM
As expected gold was always been a savior of financial inflation around the world. and when it comes to crypto, inflation is actually considered a good opportunity, and also i think investors or traders who are used to trading in crypto market are no longer afraid of inflation anymore that's what they see everyday.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Coyster on June 06, 2021, 09:25:17 AM
Bitcoin isn't the best one though, look at the prices right now, a lot of investors got their investments cut in almost half during the recent price dip. It does pprotect from inflation but the volatility makes it uncertain whether you are protected or you will have more loss.
The thing is, if you put into consideration when some of this investors bought/converted their Fiat to Bitcoin, plus if you trace Bitcoins price from early last year when the pandemic shed it's milk teeth till now, quite a lot of them are still in profit, cause $36k which is what Bitcoins price is as I type this is not as bad as people make it seem. Investors who do their research should know that there'll definitely be price corrections/plunges when they 'employ' Bitcoin as a hedge to inflation, and that there's also no asset that does not have it's cons. But imo, more emphasis should be directed at how fast an asset can rise out of its bear period and give profits and for me Bitcoin is prolly the best at that.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: crzy on June 06, 2021, 10:13:52 AM
Good investments always work to fight inflation and with Gold, it has been the best solution into many financial institutions, hold more gold and save your money from a higher inflation. With regards to cryptocurrency, this market is slowly becoming the best asset as well to protect your money from inflation, despite of the volatility on Bitcoin many still believe that it can be consider as a digital gold, which I also believe and will continue to hold more o protect my money from future financial crisis.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: tabas on June 06, 2021, 10:14:04 AM
As expected gold was always been a savior of financial inflation around the world. and when it comes to crypto, inflation is actually considered a good opportunity, and also i think investors or traders who are used to trading in crypto market are no longer afraid of inflation anymore that's what they see everyday.

That's most countries that do their "reserve" for gold. Because it's a very effective way of beating inflation. But aside from gold, bitcoin, and others on the list, real estate is also a good one.
Your investment through real estate can generate your income from renting it or selling it and taking capital gains from it. Actually, there are too many ways but not as an expert, taking little steps at a time.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 06, 2021, 01:21:10 PM
That's most countries that do their "reserve" for gold. Because it's a very effective way of beating inflation. But aside from gold, bitcoin, and others on the list, real estate is also a good one.
Your investment through real estate can generate your income from renting it or selling it and taking capital gains from it. Actually, there are too many ways but not as an expert, taking little steps at a time.

Gold is the best asset that offer protection from inflation as far as the global governments are concerned. Because it is having a limited supply, has been in use for many thousands of years, and is in physical form (and can be secured if you have a million strong army). The problem with Bitcoin is that it is volatile, not having a global acceptability and also since it is in digital form there is always a chance that it can be stolen by criminal elements. For the ordinary people however, many of these factors and not applicable and Bitcoin may be more appealing when compared to gold.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: fiulpro on June 06, 2021, 05:26:30 PM
I do think we can add one more point here:

1. Education
No matter where you are and what are the odds against you, you will be able to do well if you have education, experience and at the same time sharp mind.
These skill sets are way more important than gold or any other investments. You can sell your gold or Bitcoins for actually investing in yourself and that will all be worth it at the end of the day.

Other than that I think those points are really cool and we can also establish that Bitcoins have increased in price at such an uneventful pandemic and the people who owned it did win a big time. Therefore we can easily infer it might help you in the future but should never disregard the word "might".


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: justdimin on June 06, 2021, 07:04:46 PM
As expected gold was always been a savior of financial inflation around the world. and when it comes to crypto, inflation is actually considered a good opportunity, and also i think investors or traders who are used to trading in crypto market are no longer afraid of inflation anymore that's what they see everyday.
That's most countries that do their "reserve" for gold. Because it's a very effective way of beating inflation. But aside from gold, bitcoin, and others on the list, real estate is also a good one.
Your investment through real estate can generate your income from renting it or selling it and taking capital gains from it. Actually, there are too many ways but not as an expert, taking little steps at a time.
Back in the day there was something called "gold standard" which meant that there was a value for the gold nations have in their reserves and they only printed that much fiat, so if you had like 100 billion dollars worth of gold in the reserves bank, then you could have 100 billion dollars of money in the banknote form as well, which allowed inflation to be capped and it also allowed people to get more fair share, wealthy people couldn't get rich forever, it was impossible because since there was a limited amount, that meant people had to be paid.

When that was removed and nations started to print as much money as they want, it started to be the world we live in, a horribly difficult world to live in, and that is what I think really ruined everything, I believe we should be living in a world where it is easier to make a profit using crypto instead of gold for the same standard now.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Fortify on June 06, 2021, 07:45:53 PM
Hello community,

I want to start a topic that I think is interesting for the immediate future of cryptocurrency investors, the inflation. One of the consequences of the global pandemic we are experiencing seems almost certain to be the injection of money into the world's economies at levels never seen before. This will undoubtedly lead to an increase in inflation.

I leave you the link (https://www.docdroid.net/H1fuimX/the-great-monetary-inflation-pdf (https://www.docdroid.net/H1fuimX/the-great-monetary-inflation-pdf)) to a paper by a very well known and knowledgeable on the subject that talks about the performance of Central Banks and different ways to protect our assets against possible inflation. In my opinion there are very coherent things that are worth knowing. It is true that I personally disagree on some points but in general, I think it will be useful for everyone. Here is an image of the ways to protect our assets that Mr. Tudor Jones talks about in his article:

 https://i.imgur.com/jQ8uR9z.png


I think you might find it interesting and helpful. I hope you find it useful and give your opinion on the subject.


As with any great investing advice we have to be mindful at all times that what has worked in the past will not necessarily be the same in the future. Take bonds for instance, for many decades they have been providing a solid return that has generally beaten inflation by a nice margin, however that has collapsed in the current low interest rate environment and lots of money poured out because the returns are shockingly low. Oil (the paper makes reference to commodity) also went negative for a period last year when people were paying for others to take it off their hands because storage capacity was maxed out everywhere, that was unthinkable until it happened. Cryptocurrency is providing another asset class, however it is most useful to the super rich (and potentially criminal money launderers) at it's current valuation levels because it is allowing them - as the paper says - to move vast amounts. For all it's positives, it is going to ultimately come under more and more scrutiny by governments in order to track illicit money flows. The best hedge against inflation is likely to be profit generating companies, with the most stable in the Americas/Europe and a few other locations.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: tabas on June 06, 2021, 09:20:27 PM
That's most countries that do their "reserve" for gold. Because it's a very effective way of beating inflation. But aside from gold, bitcoin, and others on the list, real estate is also a good one.
Your investment through real estate can generate your income from renting it or selling it and taking capital gains from it. Actually, there are too many ways but not as an expert, taking little steps at a time.

Gold is the best asset that offer protection from inflation as far as the global governments are concerned. Because it is having a limited supply, has been in use for many thousands of years, and is in physical form (and can be secured if you have a million strong army). The problem with Bitcoin is that it is volatile, not having a global acceptability and also since it is in digital form there is always a chance that it can be stolen by criminal elements. For the ordinary people however, many of these factors and not applicable and Bitcoin may be more appealing when compared to gold.
I agree that most governments are relying on gold because it is tested and less volatile than bitcoin. But I know some countries that have the most bitcoins in their possession but I don't know if they're treating it as a reserve but as far as their concern, they've got bitcoin and their asset is vast on it.
And for usual stealing of gold, it's not going to be easy because of its physical attributes that cannot be done and stolen in a split seconds.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: wxa7115 on June 06, 2021, 10:16:45 PM
Hello community,

I want to start a topic that I think is interesting for the immediate future of cryptocurrency investors, the inflation. One of the consequences of the global pandemic we are experiencing seems almost certain to be the injection of money into the world's economies at levels never seen before. This will undoubtedly lead to an increase in inflation.

I leave you the link (https://www.docdroid.net/H1fuimX/the-great-monetary-inflation-pdf (https://www.docdroid.net/H1fuimX/the-great-monetary-inflation-pdf)) to a paper by a very well known and knowledgeable on the subject that talks about the performance of Central Banks and different ways to protect our assets against possible inflation. In my opinion there are very coherent things that are worth knowing. It is true that I personally disagree on some points but in general, I think it will be useful for everyone. Here is an image of the ways to protect our assets that Mr. Tudor Jones talks about in his article:

 https://i.imgur.com/jQ8uR9z.png


I think you might find it interesting and helpful. I hope you find it useful and give your opinion on the subject.

I only agree with gold and bitcoin on that list, when people think of inflation they do not think of the one we have every single year they think of inflation out of control also known as hyperinflation.

When inflation like that comes paper assets perform very poorly and the ones that perform really well or can at least track inflation are hard assets, assets like gold, bitcoin, jewelry, real state and works of art do well under those circumstances but even simple things like having a way to produce your own food can be a great way to protect you from inflation as you will not spend as much money as others in food, so going a little bit off the grid is also a good way to protect you so things like solar panels, avoiding debt and having different sources of income can be a decent way to obtain some protection as well.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: fullhdpixel on June 07, 2021, 03:53:31 PM
More than anything, to stay away from inflation you need some knowledge all these investment options you mentioned above are good if you know how they work, these are in different markets with different price actions and price fluctuation. We all know in order to stay away from inflation and protect your funds you need to invest somewhere, if you get your own investment plan and be careful about risk management and money management any market you mentioned above can be profitable.
Someone who is into this crypto market can easily surpass inflation because the growth of Bitcoins is always more than the inflation even in the worst bear runs. I mean the yearly growth of Bitcoins is higher than the inflation rate in almost any country, I believe. As soon as you find a way where you earn higher than the inflation rate you will be safe.

If for example you invest under someone and they pay you 25% interest yearly, the inflation rate is for example 20% yearly then you easily earned 5% but that's the difficult part, to find such opportunities where you earn high but safe interests.

Investing in Bitcoins is a wise idea like I said but it always comes with a higher risk hence not the ideal choice yet.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: tygeade on June 07, 2021, 03:59:52 PM
TD;DR

There might be many ways of neglecting inflation and I will share one of them below. I have never tested it so correct me if I am wrong about it.

1- You live in a country where the inflation rate is high.
2- You pick a developed nation that faces the least inflation maybe like the U.S.
3- You then buy the currency of that country with all your savings.
4- Now as inflation happens you don't face it because you always had your money as dollars (or whatever you picked) so you will easily overcome it or at least minimize it.

I wonder if this works or I am missing something.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: dark1234 on June 07, 2021, 09:33:11 PM
Inflation itself is an economic condition that makes the price of needed goods higher and results in a change in the balance between the flow of money obtained and the goods traded. In difficult times like this, how to deal with inflation is very difficult and maybe saving funds in the form of gold is more possible because the impact is not too influential while storing it in bitcoin is very risky, especially for a beginner who is easily emotional with prices or other options, namely you are looking for extra money by looking for a job in this forum according to your talent maybe this will be the solution


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: just_Alice on June 07, 2021, 10:30:02 PM
I do think we can add one more point here:

1. Education
No matter where you are and what are the odds against you, you will be able to do well if you have education, experience and at the same time sharp mind.
These skill sets are way more important than gold or any other investments. You can sell your gold or Bitcoins for actually investing in yourself and that will all be worth it at the end of the day.

Other than that I think those points are really cool and we can also establish that Bitcoins have increased in price at such an uneventful pandemic and the people who owned it did win a big time. Therefore we can easily infer it might help you in the future but should never disregard the word "might".
Education is very important in terms of finding a stable job, and that's about it, but, sadly, that won't save us from inflation, because all payments are in fiat. That's why it's important to invest in stable assets.

In addition, if someone is thinking of starting a business project - even then education is not that important, because the first thing you're going to need is networking, connections, presentation and persuasion skills, motivation and commitment, and, of course, idea. All of that doesn't necessarily require formal education and having a personal business is a way better source (when successful) of income, than a regular job.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: AndySt on June 07, 2021, 10:46:01 PM
More than anything, to stay away from inflation you need some knowledge all these investment options you mentioned above are good if you know how they work, these are in different markets with different price actions and price fluctuation. We all know in order to stay away from inflation and protect your funds you need to invest somewhere, if you get your own investment plan and be careful about risk management and money management any market you mentioned above can be profitable.
Someone who is into this crypto market can easily surpass inflation because the growth of Bitcoins is always more than the inflation even in the worst bear runs. I mean the yearly growth of Bitcoins is higher than the inflation rate in almost any country, I believe. As soon as you find a way where you earn higher than the inflation rate you will be safe.
If for example you invest under someone and they pay you 25% interest yearly, the inflation rate is for example 20% yearly then you easily earned 5% but that's the difficult part, to find such opportunities where you earn high but safe interests.
Investing in Bitcoins is a wise idea like I said but it always comes with a higher risk hence not the ideal choice yet.
In the case of the bitcoin story, you can not only lose more than from inflation, but also lose much more due to the volatility of the exchange rate ;) A lot depends on the entry and exit points to the asset, because the spread is very large. Bitcoin is a very risky asset to invest in at this point in time, and conservative investors should stay away and wait for the moment when the bitcoin market will pass a certain stage of maturity. Until recently,it seemed that such a stage had already arrived, but then there was a crazy growth, which was replaced by a crazy fall after a couple of bad news.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: boumalo on June 08, 2021, 05:08:02 AM
Real estate is both an asset and a liability, you usually have property taxes, maintenance and risks. But if the rent offset the other costs, you can enjoy the asset appreciation with some work to rent and maintain the property.

A good but difficult way to protect against inflation is to have skills that will be in high demand.

A simple way to protect against inflation is to go to a hard discount store and buy a year worth of non perishable supply, you will save both because you buy in bulk and because you will pay today's price instead of the inflated price you would have paid later on.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Karartma1 on June 08, 2021, 10:36:34 AM
Over the years, accumulating bitcoin at all price levels was the best thing I did to tackle inflation.
Now, the MSM are starting their narrative around inflation and trust me we need to expect troubles around the value of fiat money.
I believe there's gonna be a lot of turbulence at the end of the summer. Fasten your seat belt, and act accordingly: protect your wealth.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: goldade on June 08, 2021, 12:19:48 PM
Inflation has been for a very long and it has, over the years, has reduced the value of money. $1 million  today isn't worth as much as it was 10 years ago.
Accumulating gold and other precious metals is a good way to hedge against inflation. Real Estate also serves in a good way in avoiding inflation.
I, however, believe that the best way to avoid inflation is to accumulate as much bitcoin as possible. Bitcoin has been growing over the years and 1 btc, instead of decrease just the US dollars or any other currency, has grown so much to worth a lot than it was 10 years ago.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: justdimin on June 08, 2021, 04:26:13 PM
Real estate is both an asset and a liability, you usually have property taxes, maintenance and risks. But if the rent offset the other costs, you can enjoy the asset appreciation with some work to rent and maintain the property.

A good but difficult way to protect against inflation is to have skills that will be in high demand.

A simple way to protect against inflation is to go to a hard discount store and buy a year worth of non perishable supply, you will save both because you buy in bulk and because you will pay today's price instead of the inflated price you would have paid later on.
There are places in the world where price of real estate drops instead of goes up, but those places are very very rare, when you look at it in the long term you always end up profiting from having it. However between the costs and taxes of keeping it, you are not going to profit from it as much as people imagine, it is going to be decent but it is not going to be insanely profitable, especially considering how much we are profiting from crypto right now.

For example, if I put my money in bitcoin and wait for 10 years, I am 100% sure that I would make more profit from that compared to buying a house and holding it for 10 years, so why would I go do that? People just want to "see" their investments, there are those people, people who buy gold and silver physically, people who buy houses or even cars which usually drops in value, so it is really a personal choice, not a financial one.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on June 08, 2021, 04:38:52 PM
Over the years, accumulating bitcoin at all price levels was the best thing I did to tackle inflation.
Now, the MSM are starting their narrative around inflation and trust me we need to expect troubles around the value of fiat money.
I believe there's gonna be a lot of turbulence at the end of the summer. Fasten your seat belt, and act accordingly: protect your wealth.

It is going to get worse. Back in 2020, the governments were thinking that the pandemic will be contained within a few months. So they took out these big spending plans and stimulus measures. The plan was to increase the revenue generation in 2021 and make up for what is lost in 2020. Unfortunately, now it looks as if 2021 will be even worse when compared to 2020. So obviously this means more government spending in the end, and more inflation for many more years to come.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Nunoluck on June 08, 2021, 09:13:48 PM
In my opinion, inflation only bad for people who only have fixed income such us employee. There are so many employee in this world so it makes inflation bad for the world. Gold can protect us from inflation but I am not sure that gold is really can give us significant profit. What I know is the price of gold is move in line with the price of commodities. My teacher said that actually companies want inflation to be happen so their product price will increase. I think it will be better for us to always invest some of our money. Today, it is very easy to do an investment, even we can invest only using app on our smartphone. But still, choosing the right place to invest is not easy. Maybe always diversify and learn the progress is good to improve our knowledge. I am lucky to know about bitcoin, for me it is a good investment choice and also safe as long as I buy it at right time or right price.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Coroline on June 08, 2021, 11:34:02 PM
I think the way to deal with inflation is with cryptocurrencies, because Bitcoin only has a limit of 21 million coins that can be mined. If calculated mathematically, Bitcoin will completely run out in the year 2140 which means more than 100 years from now.

The interesting thing is, crypto coins can be set not to be published so they are free from the supervision of government institutions. This is necessary because the level of inflation can also be influenced by the level of trust in the government. If the level of confidence decreases, the conventional exchange rate will also experience a decline in value.

Then, virtual coins are considered as one of the deflationary assets because they have resistance and flexibility. Virtual coins are no longer just a transaction tool between blocks, but have become the underlying of an exchange rate. Therefore, its value will not be easily shaken.

Coupled with the level of security in the Blockchain mechanism which is the core of virtual money. Because of this, almost all crypto coins have a much higher level of security. Transactions from sender to receiver will also be protected by network block encryption.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: jrrsparkles on June 09, 2021, 01:55:21 AM
If we need to answer this question based on the data we have then the only considerable asset is gold because no other thing have such a long history of successful increasing value and never lost its value against fiat. Maybe in future bitcoin can be the one as well but you have to wait for another 2490 years or more to get such guaranteed returns. ;D


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Sithara007 on June 09, 2021, 03:43:33 AM
If we need to answer this question based on the data we have then the only considerable asset is gold because no other thing have such a long history of successful increasing value and never lost its value against fiat. Maybe in future bitcoin can be the one as well but you have to wait for another 2490 years or more to get such guaranteed returns. ;D

Gold has lost its shine recently. Despite the huge risk of rising inflation rates, gold hasn't gone up as much as we would have liked. Now the prices have recovered to around $1900 per oz, but this is a long way down form the ATH of $2100 per oz that was reached almost one year ago. Many of us were expecting a sharp spike in gold prices, but that didn't realized. I still don't know why the demand for gold subsided during the 2020-21 period. Perhaps even the large scale investors were impacted by the COVID 19 pandemic and they had less liquid cash to spend on assets such as gold.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: bitterguy28 on June 09, 2021, 04:11:24 AM
If we need to answer this question based on the data we have then the only considerable asset is gold because no other thing have such a long history of successful increasing value and never lost its value against fiat. Maybe in future bitcoin can be the one as well but you have to wait for another 2490 years or more to get such guaranteed returns. ;D
Is bitcoin lose His Value against Fiat? as far as i remember that the price of bitcoin steps 1 $ it never fall down again since that moment.
Gold is indeed has its good increase since then but remember that this also losses momentum some time so there is no really permanent increasing to prove the healthy of the coins or gold.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: jostorres on June 09, 2021, 10:29:04 AM
In my opinion there are very coherent things that are worth knowing. It is true that I personally disagree on some points but in general, I think it will be useful for everyone.
Well they are all assets for investments, but everyone here in bitcoin Forum will say bitcoin is their number one choice for sure, because if it wasn’t bitcoin they wouldn’t be here today. Apart from gold and bitcoin, I have not invested in any other asset that is listed there. And between bitcoin and gold, I am going to choose bitcoin for sure, because it has been favorite investment in recent years.

Although I have also started investing money in altcoins as well, but they are still in the same category with bitcoin in a case like this, they are all cryptocurrency. Good thing about investing in cryptocurrency is that if you know what you’re doing you can make good profit.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on June 09, 2021, 11:51:28 AM
There is no relation between inflation and the price of bitcoin, inflation is happening in the economy and this is not a bad thing, inflation happens when your countries economy is going strong and that makes inflation, while the price of bitcoin is naturally changing, the pumps and dumps happen because of the buyers and sellers, there is no centralized that can be affected decentralized or bitcoin.

Inflation is bad for those who have their savings in fiat denominated assets. In case most of your assets are in the form of assets that are protected against inflation, then you don't need to worry. One issue that I have faced is while calculating the capital gains tax, most of the governments don't consider the loss from inflation. For example, I purchased a stock 10 years ago at $100. Now I am selling after 10 years , for $250. As per the calculation for tax, my net gain is $150 and I need to pay the capital gains tax on this amount. But if the inflation rate is high, then the net gain may be as little as $40 or $50 and the applicable tax maybe higher than this amount.   


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: ilovealtcoins on June 09, 2021, 01:56:28 PM
To avoid inflation, we need to understand it and have a plan to avoid it. Personally, I would diversify my holdings to never put all my eggs in one place. For a business, inflation occurs unexpectedly and is more difficult to control. Many businesses have gone bankrupt because of inflation. Small and medium enterprises are easy to go bankrupt because their business is not always favorable.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: inoes on June 09, 2021, 06:20:45 PM
Basically, inflation will greatly affect financial conditions. The higher the inflation rate, the lower the value of the money you have. Most people will invest in activities to suppress this inflation rate in their finances. but I prefer you,  to investing in the property sector, because now the bitcoin market is not normal. if you have started investing, then you should still have savings to prepare for daily life and have an emergency fund when it is needed so that your investment is not disrupted.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: bitgolden on June 10, 2021, 06:41:53 PM
Bitcoin? I mean isn't that the whole purpose where we have a currency that is limited so that it would gain value over time instead of lose value over time and the more people that uses it means the more people that buy it causing the price to go higher and higher whereas the fiat world is just going lower and lower because of how much they print every single year?

Just in the past 1.5 years USA printed how many trillions of dollars? That is why I believe if you put your money into bitcoin that means you are going to end up with a good amount of profit over course of years, many people want to make money right now and right away but the reality is that we are not going to see that all too often, however if you are willing to wait years for it, crypto is a great way to make a profit and that is what I am doing, putting my money in crypto to save from inflation.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: bayu7adi on June 10, 2021, 08:43:17 PM
Basically, inflation will greatly affect financial conditions. The higher the inflation rate, the lower the value of the money you have. Most people will invest in activities to suppress this inflation rate in their finances. but I prefer you,  to investing in the property sector, because now the bitcoin market is not normal. if you have started investing, then you should still have savings to prepare for daily life and have an emergency fund when it is needed so that your investment is not disrupted.

Using the property business as a safe point is a very relevant option in times like these. When cryptocurrencies come with a very high risk, we can always cover the worst with the results obtained from the property business.
The exact formula that I really like is, doing business in a profitable sector with low risk is more profitable than doing business in a high risk sector.
Besides being able to maintain the economic stability of my life, I can also learn high risk management (such as cryptocurrency).


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: boumalo on June 13, 2021, 11:43:31 PM
Real estate is both an asset and a liability, you usually have property taxes, maintenance and risks. But if the rent offset the other costs, you can enjoy the asset appreciation with some work to rent and maintain the property.

A good but difficult way to protect against inflation is to have skills that will be in high demand.

A simple way to protect against inflation is to go to a hard discount store and buy a year worth of non perishable supply, you will save both because you buy in bulk and because you will pay today's price instead of the inflated price you would have paid later on.
There are places in the world where price of real estate drops instead of goes up, but those places are very very rare, when you look at it in the long term you always end up profiting from having it. However between the costs and taxes of keeping it, you are not going to profit from it as much as people imagine, it is going to be decent but it is not going to be insanely profitable, especially considering how much we are profiting from crypto right now.

For example, if I put my money in bitcoin and wait for 10 years, I am 100% sure that I would make more profit from that compared to buying a house and holding it for 10 years, so why would I go do that? People just want to "see" their investments, there are those people, people who buy gold and silver physically, people who buy houses or even cars which usually drops in value, so it is really a personal choice, not a financial one.

It would be easy if it was 100% sure ;-) There is a risk with every investment, including Bitcoin.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: jaysabi on June 14, 2021, 01:34:47 AM
Since we are in a Bitcoin forum, it is normal to think that the best protection against inflation is Bitcoin. And it is not that it is (only) a distorted thought, the (short) history of the Bitcoin proves it to us.

Then there are other things that are debatable. Gold today is not bad, but if most of the money that is invested in gold goes to Bitcoin, it will not serve to protect much. That's what has happened this past year.

NASDAQ 100, OK. I prefer the S&P 500 which is more diversified in sectors. The NASDAQ 100 has been more profitable than the S&P 500 in recent years but that can change at any time.

Then I also miss good, well-located, Real State on that list.


The short history of bitcoin definitely does not prove it's a good hedge against inflation.  Bitcoin is down nearly 50% since the beginning of May.  When was the last time the dollar was down 50% in a matter of weeks?  Never.  You can't hedge 2% inflation losses with an assets that routinely swings 20% or more in a single day.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: andriarto on June 14, 2021, 06:04:30 AM
Basically, inflation will greatly affect financial conditions. The higher the inflation rate, the lower the value of the money you have. Most people will invest in activities to suppress this inflation rate in their finances. but I prefer you,  to investing in the property sector, because now the bitcoin market is not normal. if you have started investing, then you should still have savings to prepare for daily life and have an emergency fund when it is needed so that your investment is not disrupted.

Using the property business as a safe point is a very relevant option in times like these. When cryptocurrencies come with a very high risk, we can always cover the worst with the results obtained from the property business.
The exact formula that I really like is, doing business in a profitable sector with low risk is more profitable than doing business in a high risk sector.
Besides being able to maintain the economic stability of my life, I can also learn high risk management (such as cryptocurrency).
property business is profitable, very low risk to be borne, but indeed this business requires large capital. but the cryptocurrency business even though it has a greater risk, but we can get double profits. therefore I also run these two businesses so that my growing assets are not trampled by inflation.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: AndySt on June 14, 2021, 12:00:53 PM
Since we are in a Bitcoin forum, it is normal to think that the best protection against inflation is Bitcoin. And it is not that it is (only) a distorted thought, the (short) history of the Bitcoin proves it to us.
Then there are other things that are debatable. Gold today is not bad, but if most of the money that is invested in gold goes to Bitcoin, it will not serve to protect much. That's what has happened this past year.
NASDAQ 100, OK. I prefer the S&P 500 which is more diversified in sectors. The NASDAQ 100 has been more profitable than the S&P 500 in recent years but that can change at any time.
Then I also miss good, well-located, Real State on that list.
The short history of bitcoin definitely does not prove it's a good hedge against inflation.  Bitcoin is down nearly 50% since the beginning of May.  When was the last time the dollar was down 50% in a matter of weeks?  Never.  You can't hedge 2% inflation losses with an assets that routinely swings 20% or more in a single day.
I am afraid that the day when bitcoin suddenly becomes a real protection against inflation will be the last day for many forum users when they invest in bitcoin ;D Because the hundreds of percent of the profit that attracts many neophytes to the market will disappear. Many people here are happy to tell you what profits bitcoin brings, while culturally keeping silent about what losses it previously brought. Therefore, if you want to protect your money from inflation, then think 100 times about whether it is worth using bitcoin for this, with its high volatility, as well as information and political risks.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: sana54210 on June 14, 2021, 04:12:33 PM
I am afraid that the day when bitcoin suddenly becomes a real protection against inflation will be the last day for many forum users when they invest in bitcoin ;D Because the hundreds of percent of the profit that attracts many neophytes to the market will disappear. Many people here are happy to tell you what profits bitcoin brings, while culturally keeping silent about what losses it previously brought. Therefore, if you want to protect your money from inflation, then think 100 times about whether it is worth using bitcoin for this, with its high volatility, as well as information and political risks.
There is going to be a limit to making profit from bitcoin and that is a fact. Sure it can still go up a lot more, like it could go x10 higher and that would still not be limit, I can see it be at around x20 and it could maybe be the limit, so there is still a ton of time left, however I believe there is still a limit. Who would think that 20+ trillion marketcap for just bitcoin is possible? I do not believe that could happen, it is not impossible but it sounds very unreasonable to expect that right now.

This is why I believe there is a chance we could see bitcoin not going up too much anymore, kind of like becoming gold where it could still go up tiny amount over course of years. Until that day we should be investing as much as we can because eventually there will be a moment when we will not be able to do it at all and not profit from it.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: wxa7115 on June 15, 2021, 05:07:21 PM
TD;DR

There might be many ways of neglecting inflation and I will share one of them below. I have never tested it so correct me if I am wrong about it.

1- You live in a country where the inflation rate is high.
2- You pick a developed nation that faces the least inflation maybe like the U.S.
3- You then buy the currency of that country with all your savings.
4- Now as inflation happens you don't face it because you always had your money as dollars (or whatever you picked) so you will easily overcome it or at least minimize it.

I wonder if this works or I am missing something.
You are not wrong when inflation affects only one country then you can use the currency of another country to protect your wealth, and as you may guess due to the popularity of the US dollar over the world this is a good option, however we need to also distinguish when this tactic will not be useful, we are getting to the point in which investors are avoiding the US dollar, which is one of the reasons the price of bitcoin is going up in value.

So if you are thinking about protecting your wealth I think right now bitcoin and gold are the best options.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: semobo on June 15, 2021, 08:01:05 PM
Just buy assets that bring passive income or giving appreciation over years, as all we know Gold considered to be the best store of value so this is one way we can save funds, and other modern digital assets like bitcoin are a lot better than gold but lacking the stability of its value is the disadvantage of holding your money in the form of cryptos.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: karanggatak on June 15, 2021, 10:52:13 PM
Gold has always been a safe haven for assets when a country is experiencing a recession or prolonged inflation, and until now it is still because gold has a physical form so old people still rely on it.
but I see in the future the new generation will start to look at cryptocurrencies to protect their assets from inflation, cryptocurrency in my opinion is currently the answer for all of us assets that can be called "real currency" because it is clear that the total supply and transparent transactions are not the same as fiat which can be arbitrary in print.
maybe in the future crypto will be the number one investment tool to avoid inflation replacing gold.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: angrynerd88 on June 16, 2021, 10:06:56 PM
Actually inflation can not end from the economy but can minimize with solid policies but main contrast when talking approximately inflation and relating to bitcoin is that , bitcoin is an resource that it's increment or diminish isn't having any relationship to expansion.I consider BTC as a currency and an asset as well. That's whether there's inflation within the society or a specific society isn't progressing to influence the cost of bitcoin since it is decentralized and a worldwide resource.Its true inflation affect globally people loses jobs but BTC and crypto market help jobless to survive their lives.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: livingfree on June 16, 2021, 10:35:12 PM
Actually inflation can not end from the economy but can minimize with solid policies but main contrast when talking approximately inflation and relating to bitcoin is that , bitcoin is an resource that it's increment or diminish isn't having any relationship to expansion.
It is true that inflation will come no matter what happens to the world. But some countries are able to defeat it and gets 0% of increase in its inflation. I saw Japan did it recently and I think there are other countries that are doing better. They might beat it for this year but we will never know what's on it for the next years.

I consider BTC as a currency and an asset as well. That's whether there's inflation within the society or a specific society isn't progressing to influence the cost of bitcoin since it is decentralized and a worldwide resource.Its true inflation affect globally people loses jobs but BTC and crypto market help jobless to survive their lives.
And there will be no more bitcoin that will be issued since it's already limited to 21 million and there's only around 2.3 million bitcoins that hasn't been mine yet.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: wxa7115 on June 21, 2021, 05:40:01 PM
Gold has always been a safe haven for assets when a country is experiencing a recession or prolonged inflation, and until now it is still because gold has a physical form so old people still rely on it.
but I see in the future the new generation will start to look at cryptocurrencies to protect their assets from inflation, cryptocurrency in my opinion is currently the answer for all of us assets that can be called "real currency" because it is clear that the total supply and transparent transactions are not the same as fiat which can be arbitrary in print.
maybe in the future crypto will be the number one investment tool to avoid inflation replacing gold.
Gold has been a great way to store our wealth and it has a long history of doing this incredibly well, however for the new generations gold as an asset you hold is a foreign concept, while for a lot of people of the previous generations the fact that they could hold gold in their hands as a physical asset was an advantage the new generations which live a lot more in the digital world will prefer digital assets to store their wealth.

And so far the only digital asset that can be considered to be a store of value is bitcoin, which gives it a monopoly in the market and in the case of a crisis its value will grow at an incredibly fast pace.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Ridi on September 03, 2021, 09:25:35 AM
Protect from inflation:-

Inflation is a natural occurrence in the market economy .Gold has been considered a hedge against inflation🙏.Gold is a real, physical, and hold its value for the most part and Bitcoin is also best asset. 🙏🙏


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: LogitechMouse on September 03, 2021, 12:35:59 PM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.
I think that gold and real estate is the best hedge for inflation followed by stocks and bitcoin and I don't like that you mention banks because they aren't client friendly and they have a lot of paperwork to do but give a meager interest. I do agree that bitcoin isn't a good hedge since the volatility is pretty high.
Real Estate is for me the best. No need for further explanation but most of the richest man worldwide owned a piece of Land.
Gold, Bitcoin and NASDAQ are the 2nd best protectors of inflation.

In general, investing into different assets can protect you from inflation only if you know what you are doing because investing has risk. You might want to invest but the risk of you losing on your investment is very high then it will be useless. You have protected yourself from inflation by investing but you invested on a high risk investment so you will lose more than you will lose in inflation.

Some say Bitcoin isn't a hedge. Yes and No. Yes for people who know when to invest and when to be patient when they need to. No for those impatient people, people who are panicking so easily when they see Bitcoin going down by double percentage in a day and for those who are just investing without proper knowledge.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: suryana on September 03, 2021, 01:18:54 PM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.
I agree, the bank is actually good, but there is nothing we can get, only our money will continue to decrease because we have to pay the bank monthly money. Bitcoin can be an option for those who like challenges and are willing to take risks. The risk of bitcoin is big but the results are much bigger to gain a profit. It's up to us which one is suitable for us to use as a means of securing our assets.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: iv4n on September 03, 2021, 01:21:50 PM
Real Estate is for me the best. No need for further explanation but most of the richest man worldwide owned a piece of Land.
Gold, Bitcoin and NASDAQ are the 2nd best protectors of inflation.

In general, investing into different assets can protect you from inflation only if you know what you are doing because investing has risk. You might want to invest but the risk of you losing on your investment is very high then it will be useless. You have protected yourself from inflation by investing but you invested on a high risk investment so you will lose more than you will lose in inflation.

Some say Bitcoin isn't a hedge. Yes and No. Yes for people who know when to invest and when to be patient when they need to. No for those impatient people, people who are panicking so easily when they see Bitcoin going down by double percentage in a day and for those who are just investing without proper knowledge.

People here often say how "real estate investing is the best"! But what is the entry fee? How much do you need to start it, how long before you start collecting profit, how long before making expansion!? Rich people can afford to invest a lot, and they have an advantage here...
In my opinion, investing in crypto is a far better option for the majority of the population, many people dream to have a house or apartment for themselves and they can afford that, how can they afford to run a real estate business? So crypto comes as something easy and simple to do, with the money you have... and plus you support a decentralized economy that can make big changes in the world!


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: abhiseshakana on September 03, 2021, 01:24:08 PM
Real Estate is for me the best. No need for further explanation but most of the richest man worldwide owned a piece of Land.
Gold, Bitcoin and NASDAQ are the 2nd best protectors of inflation.

In general, investing into different assets can protect you from inflation only if you know what you are doing because investing has risk. You might want to invest but the risk of you losing on your investment is very high then it will be useless. You have protected yourself from inflation by investing but you invested on a high risk investment so you will lose more than you will lose in inflation.

Some say Bitcoin isn't a hedge. Yes and No. Yes for people who know when to invest and when to be patient when they need to. No for those impatient people, people who are panicking so easily when they see Bitcoin going down by double percentage in a day and for those who are just investing without proper knowledge.

People here often say how "real estate investing is the best"! But what is the entry fee? How much do you need to start it, how long before you start collecting profit, how long before making expansion!? Rich people can afford to invest a lot, and they have an advantage here...
In my opinion, investing in crypto is a far better option for the majority of the population, many people dream to have a house or apartment for themselves and they can afford that, how can they afford to run a real estate business? So crypto comes as something easy and simple to do, with the money you have... and plus you support a decentralized economy that can make big changes in the world!

Because the current inflation is designed not because of natural factors and inflation is exacerbated by human errors such as corruption, bad administration, excessive taxes, and also printing a lot of money which causes a country's economy to go bad and self-feeding inflation occurs. It should be remembered, that inflation directs investment to non-productive things, namely the accumulation of wealth (hoarding), such as land, buildings, precious metals, foreign currencies at the expense of investment in productive directions such as agriculture, industry and trade. . The accumulation of money will hamper the economy, so it is better to implement a strategic policy of Dues Idle Fund (Tax on idle funds). So that the money rotates which means economic equality. In addition, money must be printed at the minimum level required for transactions and in denominations that have a small nominal value, so that there is not too much money in circulation.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: blckhawk on September 03, 2021, 02:13:08 PM
It's simple, put it in your bank or invest it into something that appreciates overtime and bitcoin and other reliable cryptocurrencies might be able to help you with protecting yourself from the inflation rate. Or another thing that you could do although it's a bit risk is trying to buy collectibles hoping that one of them is a jackpot in the far future.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: ChiBitCTy on September 03, 2021, 02:52:04 PM
I've yet to read the whole article, but going off of this list, I am not that impressed.  As a financial advisor I work with client every day and one of the biggest points of discussion lately has been the massive surge in inflation.  Here in the United States inflation has shot way up to 4-5% on average.  The best defense for inflation is a well diversified portfolio.  Of course how to set up your portfolio will depends on your age, your life situation etc.  This list has a bunch of stuff that is NOT necessary to buy.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: alpamar99 on September 03, 2021, 05:26:52 PM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.
I prefer to say gold and real estate about this I think both are good enough for investments with good protection and followed by bitcoin because they consider the high volatility risk aspect.
if you want to invest with a relatively lower standard of risk, it may be true that gold and real estate are the answer to this, but for a greater risk of course bitcoin is the right thing with a note that you have to prepare for the worst because considering the volatility of bitcoin itself and of course with a high risk obtained also not a little risk in accordance with the benefits to be achieved later.
but for the bank I don't really agree with what you say because here if you say my bank is too many rules that apply and the benefits obtained are not comparable to the rules and when compared to one unit it will take a lot of time and is astonishing.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: verita1 on September 03, 2021, 08:34:46 PM
I think I have seen something quickly related to Tudor Jones but it has not been until this moment that I have been motivated to know more.
Thanks OP for mentioning him for reference. I have not followed anyone but also by common sense I have diversified my portfolio.
For me, Bitcoin must be in my portfolio due to many reasons, the main one for believing in it, because I am sure that we are going to protect ourselves from inflation thanks to bitcoin.

Quote
"I like bitcoin as a portfolio diversifier. Everybody asks me what should I do with my bitcoin? The only thing I know for certain, I want 5% in gold, 5% in bitcoin, 5% in cash, 5% in commodities. At this point in time, I don't know what I want to do with the other 80% until I see what the Fed is going to do, ”Jones said on CNBC's“ Squawk Box. ”

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/14/tudor-jones-likes-bitcoin-calls-it-a-great-portfolio-diversifier-to-protect-his-wealth-over-time.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/14/tudor-jones-likes-bitcoin-calls-it-a-great-portfolio-diversifier-to-protect-his-wealth-over-time.html)


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: monineklutak on September 03, 2021, 11:01:26 PM
I think bitcoin is also good for inflation protection. Provides benefits that exceed other investments. It's just that not everyone likes risk because the risk that bitcoin provides is too big so it's not suitable for people who just want to be in the safe zone. However, for myself, I prefer bitcoin because I can get profits.
When you hear bitcoin, what most people think of is a big risk,
it is undeniable that it is true but when we understand it I think we can minimize the risk,
after all it comes back to each person's preference


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Cherylstar86 on September 04, 2021, 01:36:21 AM
I think bitcoin is also good for inflation protection. Provides benefits that exceed other investments. It's just that not everyone likes risk because the risk that bitcoin provides is too big so it's not suitable for people who just want to be in the safe zone. However, for myself, I prefer bitcoin because I can get profits.
When you hear bitcoin, what most people think of is a big risk,
it is undeniable that it is true but when we understand it I think we can minimize the risk,
after all it comes back to each person's preference
Indeed. Once you understand bitcoin and have knowledge about it will help you minimize risk. There's a lot of risk once you enter cryptocurrency but you can minimize it by knowing what to do and especially having strategies on everything you did. Knowing also how to read market helps you also think what strategies you can apply on it. It will just depend on how you handle things. Bitcoin is also good for inflation protection.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 11, 2021, 02:15:30 AM
There are many ways to protect oneself from inflation, but some that are very accessible to the community in general are given by some of the recommendations made by some economists in the country where I reside, and they are:

1.-Buy products that are inexpensive and that nobody uses.
2.-Keep Gold, precious metals saved.
3.-Try to have the money in Dollar or Euro, a currency that is strong, other than the local currency.
4.-Get rid of the local currency and change it quickly.

These are some measures that they gave more than 5 years ago, but currently the best option is to have or try to start a profitable business such as food, food, among others.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: B-Bit on September 11, 2021, 06:08:59 AM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.
Inflation is related to the demand and supply of currency.
One of the important countermeasures that countries have taken to control inflation is to control the supply of money to adapt it to the demand for money, and to reduce the pressure of currency depreciation and inflation.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 16, 2021, 06:04:31 AM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.
Inflation is related to the demand and supply of currency.
One of the important countermeasures that countries have taken to control inflation is to control the supply of money to adapt it to the demand for money, and to reduce the pressure of currency depreciation and inflation.

This type of control is good to do when the economy can be controlled within the country without having fallen so much in inflation and its government system always accepts and seeks progress, when passive indices increase, governments begin to mask those numbers, that by less happened in the case of Venezuela, the passive indices published by the Central Bank were incorrect, so the government began to devalue the currency to have more liquidity, a liquidity that is obtained at the moment but that harms the internal economy.

I think that an economy when the so-called "Corralitos" is applied to it is because something is wrong, and it is an indication so that those who can, manage to change their local FIAT money to money such as USD, Eur, or hard currency, at best Of the cases, those who manage to do excellent, protect themselves, and those who want to save in the case of Venezyuela what they do is buy BTC, cryptocurrencies and play NFT, it is the only way that people now have to protect themselves against hyperinflation, apart from doing all kinds of business.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Zanab247 on September 16, 2021, 07:25:01 AM
Here are some ways we can protect from inflation:
1) Good leader: The government will make sure all the economist are well trained for the field. Once there is a good leader in all economy sector,  very easy to protect inflation in the community.
2) legalized bitcoin: Government should make sure bitcoin is legalized in the country so that, it will be easy for them to protect their economy from inflation.
3) surplus of money: Government must inform the central bank to print more money that will make the economy not to experience inflation in the country.
4) Company : The government should allow more companies into the country so that there will be surplus of goods and services in the country. Once there is more companies in the communities, inflation will be far from the citizens.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Ucy on September 16, 2021, 09:14:11 AM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.
Inflation is related to the demand and supply of currency.
One of the important countermeasures that countries have taken to control inflation is to control the supply of money to adapt it to the demand for money, and to reduce the pressure of currency depreciation and inflation.


Something important to note: if government does not print money while there is shortage of goods and services, there will still be inflation. Saying this so people don't think it's only money printing that causes inflation. There are couple of factors aside printing money that can contribute to inflation.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: barbara44 on September 16, 2021, 07:18:45 PM
This type of control is good to do when the economy can be controlled within the country without having fallen so much in inflation and its government system always accepts and seeks progress, when passive indices increase, governments begin to mask those numbers, that by less happened in the case of Venezuela, the passive indices published by the Central Bank were incorrect, so the government began to devalue the currency to have more liquidity, a liquidity that is obtained at the moment but that harms the internal economy.

I think that an economy when the so-called "Corralitos" is applied to it is because something is wrong, and it is an indication so that those who can, manage to change their local FIAT money to money such as USD, Eur, or hard currency, at best Of the cases, those who manage to do excellent, protect themselves, and those who want to save in the case of Venezyuela what they do is buy BTC, cryptocurrencies and play NFT, it is the only way that people now have to protect themselves against hyperinflation, apart from doing all kinds of business.
Nations feel like they have to, because if they show that it is doing horrible then it is nearly guaranteed to lose the next elections. For example, in my nation there is a bad person at the top that half of the nation hates but the other half is scared of our half and that is why he keeps winning. That dude keeps showing great numbers on paper, like inflation at max 10% and his followers keep believing that, hell the grocery store alone had 50%+ change in the last 1 year because of the pandemic, so 10% inflation is impossible.

But, what about the "good" (arguable) guys that I support, will they show the real numbers when they get the power? Of course they can't, why? Because it is 50% and shown 10% now, if they even make it down to 30%, it will be 10% to 30% on paper so that will cause them to lose a lot of votes even though in reality they made it better.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Greenwood2023 on September 16, 2021, 07:56:25 PM
I don't think you can really protect yourself from inflation, that is to say there is no way to stop inflation from happening. But that does not mean your wealth or assets should diminish as a result.
The best way to protect your wealth from inflation is to grow it.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Abiky on September 17, 2021, 02:40:54 PM
Hello community,

I want to start a topic that I think is interesting for the immediate future of cryptocurrency investors, the inflation. One of the consequences of the global pandemic we are experiencing seems almost certain to be the injection of money into the world's economies at levels never seen before. This will undoubtedly lead to an increase in inflation.

I leave you the link (https://www.docdroid.net/H1fuimX/the-great-monetary-inflation-pdf (https://www.docdroid.net/H1fuimX/the-great-monetary-inflation-pdf)) to a paper by a very well known and knowledgeable on the subject that talks about the performance of Central Banks and different ways to protect our assets against possible inflation. In my opinion there are very coherent things that are worth knowing. It is true that I personally disagree on some points but in general, I think it will be useful for everyone. Here is an image of the ways to protect our assets that Mr. Tudor Jones talks about in his article:
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The best way to protect yourself from inflation is by investing into assets which act as a store of value. I'd say both Gold and Bitcoin fit the bill nicely. In times of crisis, you can count on these scarce commodities to protect your capital for the long haul. The more governments print money, the higher the value of both Gold and Bitcoin will be. These are pandemic times we're living into, so it's normal to see some inflation as governments try to protect their economies. If you held Gold and/or Bitcoin prior to COVID-19, you would've obtained massive gains by now. Once the pandemic is over, you can expect these assets to decline considerably in price. Inflation is inevitable, so it's best to act quickly before it's too late. Just my opinion :)


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: qwertyup23 on September 17, 2021, 04:45:31 PM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.

Banks do offer some interest rate but the returns are relatively low compared to the other investment mechanisms available. Though the proceeds might be low, at least what you get is a safe and stable income that provides you security until long-term.

Like what most people have suggested, investing into real estate or purchasing gold may be the key to combat inflation. Investing into non-renewable resources or things that are scarce may also help you against inflation in the long-run.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: zanezane on September 17, 2021, 06:24:25 PM
I don't think you can really protect yourself from inflation, that is to say there is no way to stop inflation from happening. But that does not mean your wealth or assets should diminish as a result.
The best way to protect your wealth from inflation is to grow it.
Yeah you can, invest your money in something that moves up in inflation, I mean that's how they do it in banks so I don't think that there's no way that you can't protect yourself from inflation. The reason that you're saying that is probably because we still use fiat even though there's already a cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: jrrsparkles on September 21, 2021, 09:07:28 AM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.
Banks are not a place when you want to save your asset value, especially in this 2020 the inflation rate probably higher than the returns from the savings so you lose 1 or 2% every year when holding the cash in banks. You have binds which are better compared to bank and also highly secured but this 21st century everyone wants to be rich quicker for that Bitcoin may help if they buy and sell the coins at the right time and finally we need to know that nothing comes easily in this life.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Gyfts on September 21, 2021, 03:13:58 PM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.
Inflation is related to the demand and supply of currency.
One of the important countermeasures that countries have taken to control inflation is to control the supply of money to adapt it to the demand for money, and to reduce the pressure of currency depreciation and inflation.

Labor/product shortages also contribute to this - it was inevitable post-Covid that inflation was going to occur for any economy. The supply chain issues that were persistent in 2020 are having effects seen now, so it's not anything surprising, but the point is money supply is one aspect of inflation, that's only compounded by other issues.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: inashed on September 21, 2021, 03:16:42 PM
- Real state. It does not get more "real asset" than this. Land has a multi-millennial tailwind due to population growth.

"HOME OWNERSHIP A THING OF THE PAST
    Privately owned housing would become a thing of the past. The cost of housing and financing housing would gradually be made so high that most people couldn't afford it. People who already owned their houses would be allowed to keep them but as years go by it would be more and more difficult for young people to buy a house. Young people would more and more become renters, particularly in apartments or condominiums. More and more unsold houses would stand vacant. People just couldn't buy them. But the cost of housing would not come down. You'd right away think, well the vacant house, the price would come down, the people would buy it. But there was some statement to the effect that the price would be held high even though there were many available so that free market places would not operate. People would not be able to buy these and gradually more and more of the population would be forced into small apartments. Small apartments which would not accommodate very many children. Then as the number of real home-owners diminished they would become a minority. There would be no sympathy for them from the majority who dwelled in the apartments and then these homes could be taken by increased taxes or other regulations that would be detrimental to home ownership and would be acceptable to the majority. Ultimately, people would be assigned where they would live and it would be common to have non-family members living with you. This by way of your not knowing just how far you could trust anybody. This would all be under the control of a central housing authority. Have this in mind in 1990 when they ask, "How many bedrooms in your house? How many bathrooms in your house? Do you have a finished game room?." This information is personal and is of no national interest to government under our existing Constitution. But you'll be asked those questions and decide how you want to respond to them."

https://pastebin.com/cFa6x8M8


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: jaberwock on September 21, 2021, 04:14:09 PM
Banks are not a place when you want to save your asset value, especially in this 2020 the inflation rate probably higher than the returns from the savings so you lose 1 or 2% every year when holding the cash in banks. You have binds which are better compared to bank and also highly secured but this 21st century everyone wants to be rich quicker for that Bitcoin may help if they buy and sell the coins at the right time and finally we need to know that nothing comes easily in this life.
Inflation is nearly always higher than the returns you can get from a banks savings account interest rate. There are few nations that may achieve it but it is not common, 95%+ of the nations in the world have banks that pay under inflation rate so you definitely lose money. All in all, I would say that the best case would be to end up with profit over course of long years with stock market, gold, and now we have crypto.

Crypto could be volatile and that does put added stress and pressure to investors, that part I understand. However, the reality is that we are doing something that is less risky than most other things since in the long run it always goes up. If you look at it in 6 months periods it is volatile, but if you look at it in 5 years terms then it is awesome.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: jrrsparkles on September 21, 2021, 05:08:47 PM
Banks are not a place when you want to save your asset value, especially in this 2020 the inflation rate probably higher than the returns from the savings so you lose 1 or 2% every year when holding the cash in banks. You have binds which are better compared to bank and also highly secured but this 21st century everyone wants to be rich quicker for that Bitcoin may help if they buy and sell the coins at the right time and finally we need to know that nothing comes easily in this life.
Inflation is nearly always higher than the returns you can get from a banks savings account interest rate. There are few nations that may achieve it but it is not common, 95%+ of the nations in the world have banks that pay under inflation rate so you definitely lose money. All in all, I would say that the best case would be to end up with profit over course of long years with stock market, gold, and now we have crypto.

Crypto could be volatile and that does put added stress and pressure to investors, that part I understand. However, the reality is that we are doing something that is less risky than most other things since in the long run it always goes up. If you look at it in 6 months periods it is volatile, but if you look at it in 5 years terms then it is awesome.
Still the traditional investors are scared of cryptocurrencies to add them into their portfolio as bigger part because its literally new when comparing with the other existing ways. Anyhow after 2020 more traditional investors consider bitcoin and other cryptos to be added and in the upcoming years it will grow for sure and never forget the fact early investors make more reap so if we want more returns then we have to take the risk.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Abiky on September 22, 2021, 10:15:06 PM
Inflation is nearly always higher than the returns you can get from a banks savings account interest rate. There are few nations that may achieve it but it is not common, 95%+ of the nations in the world have banks that pay under inflation rate so you definitely lose money. All in all, I would say that the best case would be to end up with profit over course of long years with stock market, gold, and now we have crypto.

Crypto could be volatile and that does put added stress and pressure to investors, that part I understand. However, the reality is that we are doing something that is less risky than most other things since in the long run it always goes up. If you look at it in 6 months periods it is volatile, but if you look at it in 5 years terms then it is awesome.

Crypto (mainly Bitcoin) is still the best way to protect yourself from inflation. Volatile prices are nothing if you think about the long-term value of your investment. Bitcoin is already beating Gold with the constant uptrend in price. It should only be a matter of time before most investors choose Bitcoin on top of Gold as a safe haven.

I don't think inflation will destroy Fiat, since governments still support it. Smart people will act quickly by securing their capital with a store of value, before it's too late. Those who live with inflation without doing anything about it, will ultimately lose purchasing power. With Gold and Bitcoin, we no longer need to worry about becoming a victim of inflation ever again. Just my thoughts ;D


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Oilacris on September 22, 2021, 10:56:42 PM
Banks are not a place when you want to save your asset value, especially in this 2020 the inflation rate probably higher than the returns from the savings so you lose 1 or 2% every year when holding the cash in banks. You have binds which are better compared to bank and also highly secured but this 21st century everyone wants to be rich quicker for that Bitcoin may help if they buy and sell the coins at the right time and finally we need to know that nothing comes easily in this life.
Inflation is nearly always higher than the returns you can get from a banks savings account interest rate. There are few nations that may achieve it but it is not common, 95%+ of the nations in the world have banks that pay under inflation rate so you definitely lose money. All in all, I would say that the best case would be to end up with profit over course of long years with stock market, gold, and now we have crypto.

Crypto could be volatile and that does put added stress and pressure to investors, that part I understand. However, the reality is that we are doing something that is less risky than most other things since in the long run it always goes up. If you look at it in 6 months periods it is volatile, but if you look at it in 5 years terms then it is awesome.
Still the traditional investors are scared of cryptocurrencies to add them into their portfolio as bigger part because its literally new when comparing with the other existing ways. Anyhow after 2020 more traditional investors consider bitcoin and other cryptos to be added and in the upcoming years it will grow for sure and never forget the fact early investors make more reap so if we want more returns then we have to take the risk.
Some had already taken some risk but most of them are just still on observation mode but the question is, how long they would really be like that? They are just missing out the chance on making big profits

but well its their money to use or invest on and i cant really blame off for them to have in doubt because crypto market is way too volatile and its just normal that you would really have hesitance or doubts

on taking up some actions specially you are risking up your money in regarding to this.Lets just wait if those people will be jumping in on a particular time.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: boumalo on September 26, 2021, 12:54:51 AM
-Gold
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Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: dezoel on September 26, 2021, 07:22:30 PM
We all know very well that from that list Bitcoin is like the best option we have there. Then apart from Bitcoin I think gold is the next thing that is good there. Other ones are good as well, but what I don’t like about them is that what you’re getting in return isn’t that much compared to what you’re going to get when you are investing in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency or gold at least.

I’ve done most of these and at the end of the year you will be wondering what’s the need of investment? It’s just like when I used to invest in bonds, at the end of the year the profit that I make is always too small that I usually don’t see the need for me to start investing the next year. But, with Bitcoin I always see a reason to invest even more than what I invested the previous year, because the investment is usually worth it, although there are risk involved.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: pinggoki on September 26, 2021, 09:34:51 PM
Bitcoin offers much higher profitability with the same amount of risk as the NASDAQ 100 and the likes. To some this automatically means bitcoin is the superior anti-inflation agent that everyone should use. But then again I would suggest you only invest on assets that you are most comfortable about because no matter what happens, bitcoin is still susceptible to losses. Just because it's rainbows and butterflies right now doesn't mean it will stay like that forever.
We all know very well that from that list Bitcoin is like the best option we have there. Then apart from Bitcoin I think gold is the next thing that is good there. Other ones are good as well, but what I don’t like about them is that what you’re getting in return isn’t that much compared to what you’re going to get when you are investing in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency or gold at least.

I’ve done most of these and at the end of the year you will be wondering what’s the need of investment? It’s just like when I used to invest in bonds, at the end of the year the profit that I make is always too small that I usually don’t see the need for me to start investing the next year. But, with Bitcoin I always see a reason to invest even more than what I invested the previous year, because the investment is usually worth it, although there are risk involved.
I wouldn't say "best" but in turn I would say it's a much more profitable option that anyone with prior knowledge could take and include in their portfolios. The profitability is there, the risk is as high as investing in the NASDAQ 100, or at least that's how I like to think about it, and there are multiple paths for future use-cases, so the relevance will never die off. All-in-all bitcoin is a good asset that everyone should at least hear about.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: SoeNan89 on September 26, 2021, 10:52:35 PM
To beat inflation, you must earn at least 6% of your investment. There are many options you can try. You can easily earn much more than 6% by trading your shares. If you are an experienced investor, you will know that stocks are one of the riskiest investments. In fact you can lose your money up to 50% or it could be more than that.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Cindella on September 27, 2021, 01:42:56 AM
Investing in valuable assets can effectively avoid inflation, and bitcoin is now a good way to protect funds from inflation.

The decentralization and fixed finiteness of Bitcoin will make it more valuable as people's demand for it increases. Long-term investment can be profitable and can be protected from inflation.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Sithara007 on September 27, 2021, 03:10:30 AM
Investing in valuable assets can effectively avoid inflation, and bitcoin is now a good way to protect funds from inflation.

The decentralization and fixed finiteness of Bitcoin will make it more valuable as people's demand for it increases. Long-term investment can be profitable and can be protected from inflation.

You can always invest in assets that are protected against inflation. But what about taxes? For example, in USD terms, an asset which you invested for $100 in 2021 is priced at $1,000 in 2031. But during the same duration, the purchasing power of USD went down by 10 times. So essentially your net wealth remains the same, despite the change in values as per USD terms. And now comes the tax bill. According to the IT department, your gains are +$900 in 10 years and long term capital gains tax are applicable on this. In many countries, this works out to 10%-30%. And there are a lot of politicians who want this rate to be increased to 60%-70%. Now calculate yourself how much will be left after the tax payment.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Abiky on October 04, 2021, 02:41:00 PM
You can always invest in assets that are protected against inflation. But what about taxes? For example, in USD terms, an asset which you invested for $100 in 2021 is priced at $1,000 in 2031. But during the same duration, the purchasing power of USD went down by 10 times. So essentially your net wealth remains the same, despite the change in values as per USD terms. And now comes the tax bill. According to the IT department, your gains are +$900 in 10 years and long term capital gains tax are applicable on this. In many countries, this works out to 10%-30%. And there are a lot of politicians who want this rate to be increased to 60%-70%. Now calculate yourself how much will be left after the tax payment.

That's a problem we'll have to deal with in the long run. The amount of tax you'll pay after selling a scarce asset will leave you with very little money in return. How would anyone protect against inflation this way? This of course, applies with Gold and other tangible assets. It might be hard (if not impossible) to tax intangible assets like Bitcoin and NFTs. With or without inflation, what's important is that you're able to secure your financial future. Once you do that, you'll have nothing to worry about. Just my opinion :)


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Wong Gendheng on October 05, 2021, 10:55:36 AM
Inflation in any country cannot be prevented, even in developing countries like Africa the inflation rate can be 2 digits and economic growth is only 1 digit, of course this is a big problem so we have to save our finances by looking for alternative income, every month we have to invest even if small value.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: paxmao on October 05, 2021, 11:24:25 AM
I believe that there will be many answers Bitcoin is, that understandable because this is a forum about Bitcoin, but it will only run properly if we do it for the long term, gold and stock can also be chosen to protect from inflation

Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection
We cannot protect from inflation with just by putting money in the bank, the amount will remain the same but the value will decrease as inflation increases.

Exactly, that would be the perfect way to NOT being protected from inflation, as you money would be worth less each time. The problem is quite obvious if you understand what inflation is.

There is however one chance to protect by using banks, and that is if the deposits offer a yield higher than the currencies inflation, but that is something I have not seen in any major currency since the 1990s.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: inashed on October 05, 2021, 12:03:15 PM
Would something like this works?

Coin is 100% premined (AND distributed, not like ripple) by some method (but new coins can be created check later).

Crypto has 5 variables.
1-Coin
2-Pre Burn
3-Pre Temporary Burn
4-Temporary Burn
5-Burn.

You can send coins at your coin variable to your pre burn variable, your pre temporary burn variable or other wallets coin variable.
You can send coins at your pre burn variable to your coin variable, or your pre temporary burn variable or someone else coin variable.
You can send coins at your pre temporary burn variable to your coin variable, or your pre burn variable or someone else coin variable.
You can send coins at your pre burn variable to your coin variable or someone else coin variable.
You can send coins at your temporary burn variable to your burn variable.
You can send coins at your burn variable to your temporary burn variable.

Every X blocks (some amount that is 14 days, or 2 weeks), the amount of coins at your temporary burn variable go back to your coin variable. THEN, the amount of coins at pre burn variable goes to to  burn variable and then the amount of coins at pre temporary burn variable goes to your temporary burn variable.

Mining is made based at the amount of coins you have at your temporary burn variable and burn variable.

After Y blocks (Z months) since the start of the coin, when new coins will move to temporary burn and burn variables, it calculate the percentage of market cap those coins are, lets say they are W% of total coins.

After it, when moving coins from temporary burn variable to coin variable, and then pre burn/ pre temporary burn to burn and temporary burn, it first calculate the % of total amount of coins the pre burn and pre temporary burn and burn variable coins are. If that value is smaller than W%, it destroy some % of coins at temporary burn and burn variable first, before sending temporary burn variable coins back to coin variable and then adding pre burn or pre temporary burn coins to burn and temporary burn coin variables. The amount it will be destroyed is some amount that will make those coins be w% of all coins.
If before moving those coins, it discover that the % at pre burn, burn and pre temporary burn variable is bigger than W%, it creates more coins to be mined during those X blocks period (that is 14 days at average), to make the coins at the pre burn, burn and pre temporary burn variables become W% of all coins.

So you make the coin stable by increasing or decreasing the coin amount to make the amount people are ok with burning during a 14 days perior be always, the same percentage of all coins.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Semar Mesem on October 05, 2021, 02:20:41 PM
The easiest way for inflation protection is to take risks by making new businesses or investing in various places, and in my opinion cryptocurrencies are the easiest type of investment to do and have the opportunity to make big profits so that we can overcome inflation, create accounts and trade cryptocurrencies, no need to queue like in forex or others so that investing in cryptocurrencies is suitable for anyone even during a pandemic like now,.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Novice08091 on October 07, 2021, 09:56:08 AM
Inflation is caused somehow by governments printing more and more money higher than the real GDP growth rates or faster than the real expansion of yearly production of goods and services produced . More money printed causes the real value of a unit currency including the US dollars to depreciate in terms of purchasing powers .


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: inashed on October 07, 2021, 11:46:26 AM
Inflation is caused somehow by governments printing more and more money higher than the real GDP growth rates or faster than the real expansion of yearly production of goods and services produced . More money printed causes the real value of a unit currency including the US dollars to depreciate in terms of purchasing powers .

Countries make 100% sure price inflation happen by printing enought money and using it, but price inflation can happen without government help. NXT a 100% premined coin has inflation when compared with dollar despise no new coin being printed. Not only that, dollar already have price inflation because of previous said things at this post, so not the inflation is even bigger at NXT.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: South Park on October 07, 2021, 08:54:01 PM
Investing in valuable assets can effectively avoid inflation, and bitcoin is now a good way to protect funds from inflation.

The decentralization and fixed finiteness of Bitcoin will make it more valuable as people's demand for it increases. Long-term investment can be profitable and can be protected from inflation.

You can always invest in assets that are protected against inflation. But what about taxes? For example, in USD terms, an asset which you invested for $100 in 2021 is priced at $1,000 in 2031. But during the same duration, the purchasing power of USD went down by 10 times. So essentially your net wealth remains the same, despite the change in values as per USD terms. And now comes the tax bill. According to the IT department, your gains are +$900 in 10 years and long term capital gains tax are applicable on this. In many countries, this works out to 10%-30%. And there are a lot of politicians who want this rate to be increased to 60%-70%. Now calculate yourself how much will be left after the tax payment.
That is without a doubt the problem, in times of crisis you can be sure that you are going to be taxed very heavily on your hard assets if you ever decide sell them because governments will argue that this is the best for the rest of the population and obviously all of those that did not invested in those hard assets are going to agree with them, so as we can see investing in a hard asset is a good start to try to protect your capital but it is not the end of it, you also need to have an exit strategy so you are not robbed by the government.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: beerlover on October 07, 2021, 09:00:25 PM
Passive income is the path to getting rich, there is no denying that. All the rich people get richer by not working however their stocks going up. Look at Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, warren buffet, bill gates. These are richest people in the world and they do not get richer by working, they get richer by their stock prices going up.

It doesn't mean that you should own stocks, but you should do something that is similar in logic, stocks work too but not the only one. This is why we are in crypto, if you have 100 bucks when you go to sleep but wake up with 110 dollars when you wake up, that is how you beat inflation. Just find a way to make money while not working and you can become rich as well. Or you can lose it all too, just be careful.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Fatunad on October 07, 2021, 09:27:42 PM
Passive income is the path to getting rich, there is no denying that. All the rich people get richer by not working however their stocks going up. Look at Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, warren buffet, bill gates. These are richest people in the world and they do not get richer by working, they get richer by their stock prices going up.

It doesn't mean that you should own stocks, but you should do something that is similar in logic, stocks work too but not the only one. This is why we are in crypto, if you have 100 bucks when you go to sleep but wake up with 110 dollars when you wake up, that is how you beat inflation. Just find a way to make money while not working and you can become rich as well. Or you can lose it all too, just be careful.
It might looked easy but it isnt for everybody because stock investment is something still a gamble or have particular risk.It just turns out that those rich people would always have the advantage because they could
be versatile and can deal up with various things which isnt limited to investing on stocks but on other forms of investment as well which would  really able to patch up whenever they do experience losses from other investment. Rinse and repeat and this had been the advantage when you are rich one but this cant be applied on middle class to low class but it doesnt mean that is impossible but a really very hard thing.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Sithara007 on October 08, 2021, 03:00:20 AM
That's a problem we'll have to deal with in the long run. The amount of tax you'll pay after selling a scarce asset will leave you with very little money in return. How would anyone protect against inflation this way? This of course, applies with Gold and other tangible assets. It might be hard (if not impossible) to tax intangible assets like Bitcoin and NFTs. With or without inflation, what's important is that you're able to secure your financial future. Once you do that, you'll have nothing to worry about. Just my opinion :)

The case with gold is different, because it is suitable for extremely long term investment. So if you sell your gold after 20 years or 25 years of investment, the returns that you receive may be still higher than the depreciation due to fiat inflation. But that is not the case with stocks. Even for long term investment in the stock market, the usual duration of investment is 3 to 5 years. That means that capital gains tax need to be paid frequently and after the taxes, there will be a net loss in the value due to inflation. 


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: chrisculanag on October 08, 2021, 03:15:06 AM
That's a problem we'll have to deal with in the long run. The amount of tax you'll pay after selling a scarce asset will leave you with very little money in return. How would anyone protect against inflation this way? This of course, applies with Gold and other tangible assets. It might be hard (if not impossible) to tax intangible assets like Bitcoin and NFTs. With or without inflation, what's important is that you're able to secure your financial future. Once you do that, you'll have nothing to worry about. Just my opinion :)

The case with gold is different, because it is suitable for extremely long term investment. So if you sell your gold after 20 years or 25 years of investment, the returns that you receive may be still higher than the depreciation due to fiat inflation. But that is not the case with stocks. Even for long term investment in the stock market, the usual duration of investment is 3 to 5 years. That means that capital gains tax need to be paid frequently and after the taxes, there will be a net loss in the value due to inflation. 

Very well said , gold is so much differences in bitcoin but its profitable as well. Investment in longterm can protect inflation then choose wisely to put investing , But if you are investor i prefer to find a expert to advice you. The only things to do is always think first before we invest because this can help us to avoid big losses.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: boyptc on October 08, 2021, 03:21:14 AM
Inflation is caused somehow by governments printing more and more money higher than the real GDP growth rates or faster than the real expansion of yearly production of goods and services produced . More money printed causes the real value of a unit currency including the US dollars to depreciate in terms of purchasing powers .
Whether a government will print more money or not, inflation is inevitable. The world is affected by each commodities and resources that are becoming more expensive due to circumstances.

But a fact that a government plays a big role on how to stop or slow down an inflation based on the leadership and economic status of a country.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Abiky on October 08, 2021, 02:31:02 PM
Passive income is the path to getting rich, there is no denying that. All the rich people get richer by not working however their stocks going up. Look at Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, warren buffet, bill gates. These are richest people in the world and they do not get richer by working, they get richer by their stock prices going up.

It doesn't mean that you should own stocks, but you should do something that is similar in logic, stocks work too but not the only one. This is why we are in crypto, if you have 100 bucks when you go to sleep but wake up with 110 dollars when you wake up, that is how you beat inflation. Just find a way to make money while not working and you can become rich as well. Or you can lose it all too, just be careful.

Crypto is the best way to protect yourself from inflation. There's no doubt about it. If you manage to make your own passive income system with crypto, then you'll be on a road towards financial freedom. It's always important to keep in mind the scarcity of a crypto asset before deciding to invest into it for the long term. Inflation will always be there, but it's up to you to decide whenever you'd want to hold onto your Fiat or simply invest it into something that would help you increase your purchasing power in the future. I wouldn't mind about inflation, as long as crypto exists. Just my thoughts ;D


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Rasa nanas on October 08, 2021, 03:35:04 PM
Inflation is caused somehow by governments printing more and more money higher than the real GDP growth rates or faster than the real expansion of yearly production of goods and services produced . More money printed causes the real value of a unit currency including the US dollars to depreciate in terms of purchasing powers .
The cause of inflation is not only that, there are several causes of a country experiencing inflation. for example, such as the scarcity of products or services and a very strong public demand or attraction for an item. Inflation is a serious threat to the economy of a country, if inflation in a country exceeds the specified limit, it will have a very bad impact on the country's economy.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: tabas on October 08, 2021, 06:35:11 PM
In any country there are always reports of inflation that is higher than economic growth, especially when the pandemic period like now makes inflation out of control so we have to be selective in spending money, buying only the things we really need and investing in the best kinds of things. should be done immediately, crypto is the best choice to invest and overcome inflation.
It certainly happens but there are also some good news that they report that their economic growth are much higher than the inflation.
If it's not because of the pandemic, there are too many developing countries that might have slowed down the inflation on their countries due to a good economic growth.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: SirLancelot on October 09, 2021, 09:32:47 AM
All the means that have been mentioned in this article are all good for saving yourself from inflation, but the levels of what you will be gaining from it differs for each of them. From the list we have here I have only invested in gold and cryptocurrency.

The first investment I had in gold wasn’t an investment I made myself, it was a free gold that was given out to me by someone as a gift. Then As for cryptocurrency I was the one who personally chose to be investing in it, and as time goes on I discovered that cryptocurrency is a better choice for me than any other that I’ve seen so far, so most of my investments are now going into cryptocurrency and it has been a way for me to retain value.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: barbara44 on October 10, 2021, 06:48:42 PM
All the means that have been mentioned in this article are all good for saving yourself from inflation, but the levels of what you will be gaining from it differs for each of them. From the list we have here I have only invested in gold and cryptocurrency.

The first investment I had in gold wasn’t an investment I made myself, it was a free gold that was given out to me by someone as a gift. Then As for cryptocurrency I was the one who personally chose to be investing in it, and as time goes on I discovered that cryptocurrency is a better choice for me than any other that I’ve seen so far, so most of my investments are now going into cryptocurrency and it has been a way for me to retain value.
Crypto is good enough, it will always beat inflation if you could wait for it. Sure there will be periods when you lose money but at the end of the day it will always be a big profit for many people involved and I would say that it is definitely a long term best deal we could find anywhere.

I have been in stock market as well and I gotta say it is not as profitable as crypto, it is still profitable "decent enough" and not a bad thing, I am not here to bash stock market because it has made so many people so much money so far, but I can assure you that it is not a great deal, it is a decent deal at best. Crypto on the other hand is a great deal, it is one of the best I have ever seen and I will probably not see any better in the long run ever again. Which is why I keep on investing into crypto and not even look at others, and you should not be worried about it neither.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Rufsilf on October 11, 2021, 09:00:52 AM
Hello community,

I want to start a topic that I think is interesting for the immediate future of cryptocurrency investors, the inflation. One of the consequences of the global pandemic we are experiencing seems almost certain to be the injection of money into the world's economies at levels never seen before. This will undoubtedly lead to an increase in inflation.

I leave you the link (https://www.docdroid.net/H1fuimX/the-great-monetary-inflation-pdf (https://www.docdroid.net/H1fuimX/the-great-monetary-inflation-pdf)) to a paper by a very well known and knowledgeable on the subject that talks about the performance of Central Banks and different ways to protect our assets against possible inflation. In my opinion there are very coherent things that are worth knowing. It is true that I personally disagree on some points but in general, I think it will be useful for everyone. Here is an image of the ways to protect our assets that Mr. Tudor Jones talks about in his article:

 https://i.imgur.com/jQ8uR9z.png


I think you might find it interesting and helpful. I hope you find it useful and give your opinion on the subject.


Gold or any precious metals such as silver or platinum might be a best defense against inflation and it is historically proven. Commodities as well like crude, oils and grains are useful to protect yourself from inflation and even real estates because time to time that asset can be profitable as 3x your invested money.

But since we're in bitcoin, it is also believed that bitcoin or any top ranking crypto nowadays can be also used to escape or evade inflation but it is not guaranteed that it's the best defense from inflation because its volatility can't assure you. Still many trusts bitcoin as an investment to protect from yearly increased inflation.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: South Park on October 12, 2021, 04:57:09 PM
All the means that have been mentioned in this article are all good for saving yourself from inflation, but the levels of what you will be gaining from it differs for each of them. From the list we have here I have only invested in gold and cryptocurrency.

The first investment I had in gold wasn’t an investment I made myself, it was a free gold that was given out to me by someone as a gift. Then As for cryptocurrency I was the one who personally chose to be investing in it, and as time goes on I discovered that cryptocurrency is a better choice for me than any other that I’ve seen so far, so most of my investments are now going into cryptocurrency and it has been a way for me to retain value.
And this is the correct way to go about this, we know that a storm is coming and it is a mistake to try to protect yourself from it once it has started, we need to do this before it does and one of the best and easiest ways in which can do this is by investing in bitcoin, however many people are not going to listen as they never believe something bad is going to happen to them, until it does, and that is when they will try to adopt bitcoin but at that point it will be too late to protect their wealth.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Finestream on October 12, 2021, 09:41:00 PM
All the means that have been mentioned in this article are all good for saving yourself from inflation, but the levels of what you will be gaining from it differs for each of them. From the list we have here I have only invested in gold and cryptocurrency.

The first investment I had in gold wasn’t an investment I made myself, it was a free gold that was given out to me by someone as a gift. Then As for cryptocurrency I was the one who personally chose to be investing in it, and as time goes on I discovered that cryptocurrency is a better choice for me than any other that I’ve seen so far, so most of my investments are now going into cryptocurrency and it has been a way for me to retain value.
And this is the correct way to go about this, we know that a storm is coming and it is a mistake to try to protect yourself from it once it has started, we need to do this before it does and one of the best and easiest ways in which can do this is by investing in bitcoin, however many people are not going to listen as they never believe something bad is going to happen to them, until it does, and that is when they will try to adopt bitcoin but at that point it will be too late to protect their wealth.
Investing in bitcoin is the best way i think to protect us from the rising inflation. We know bitcoin is a good way to generate profits as long as we also know what we are doing. Although there are still some people who remained to be skeptical because bitcoin is still very expensive and yet, you still have no assurance that you will gain profits in the end. But, if you know bitcoin well, you will definitely invest in it even its a high risk because you have the faith that it will give you bigger profits in time. Investing in gold is also a brilliant idea but don't expect that it will be as profitable as bitcoin because its really not. Through these, even if the inflation continues, you will no longer affected that much because the profits you will gain back is certainly much higher compared to other investments.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Oilacris on October 12, 2021, 09:58:33 PM
All the means that have been mentioned in this article are all good for saving yourself from inflation, but the levels of what you will be gaining from it differs for each of them. From the list we have here I have only invested in gold and cryptocurrency.

The first investment I had in gold wasn’t an investment I made myself, it was a free gold that was given out to me by someone as a gift. Then As for cryptocurrency I was the one who personally chose to be investing in it, and as time goes on I discovered that cryptocurrency is a better choice for me than any other that I’ve seen so far, so most of my investments are now going into cryptocurrency and it has been a way for me to retain value.
And this is the correct way to go about this, we know that a storm is coming and it is a mistake to try to protect yourself from it once it has started, we need to do this before it does and one of the best and easiest ways in which can do this is by investing in bitcoin, however many people are not going to listen as they never believe something bad is going to happen to them, until it does, and that is when they will try to adopt bitcoin but at that point it will be too late to protect their wealth.
Investing in bitcoin is the best way i think to protect us from the rising inflation. We know bitcoin is a good way to generate profits as long as we also know what we are doing. Although there are still some people who remained to be skeptical because bitcoin is still very expensive and yet, you still have no assurance that you will gain profits in the end. But, if you know bitcoin well, you will definitely invest in it even its a high risk because you have the faith that it will give you bigger profits in time. Investing in gold is also a brilliant idea but don't expect that it will be as profitable as bitcoin because its really not. Through these, even if the inflation continues, you will no longer affected that much because the profits you will gain back is certainly much higher compared to other investments.
Bitcoin isnt a solution but it isnt also a bad decision or option for you to take when it comes on protecting yourself with inflation but always take consideration about that volatility risk which people should look upon whenever

on the time they do make out such decision but well you wouldnt know unless you do try because this had been always the case because any possible action to make would have corresponding risk.

So its a personal choice whether you do jump into this option or would stick out on what you do have in the past.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on October 12, 2021, 11:03:12 PM
But since we're in bitcoin, it is also believed that bitcoin or any top ranking crypto nowadays can be also used to escape or evade inflation but it is not guaranteed that it's the best defense from inflation because its volatility can't assure you. Still many trusts bitcoin as an investment to protect from yearly increased inflation.
Just be too conscious with many top cryptos. Except bitcoin, you'll never know if any of them will be replaced by another better project in the long run. This has happened many times and you need to look at that before you become confident picking any of them. I'm not questioning all of them but throughout the years, there's always a replaced coin at the top spot by another one that's emerging in its market. But it's true that picking any of them that you're sure about together with bitcoin really can help your assets from inflation.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Sayeds56 on October 12, 2021, 11:33:19 PM
Banks are a good protection to inflation but the problem is there is close to zero profits with banks so it's not a good thing to go that route for inflation protection, bitcoin can be a likely candidate but it's inherent volatility is going to be a problem for people that have weak hands. Real estate and gold could do the work just fine but the problem is that both are really expensive.

The profit that Banks pay to their Account Holders is usually above inflation Rate slightly,  means it is protecting your wealth but not increasing it in a big way. The best hedge against inflation in my opinion is Bitcoin because it is anti inflationary and its performance has been much better than any class of assets including stocks. every body should own a piece of Bitcoin to protect financial future of their children.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: bussybuddy on October 13, 2021, 03:19:24 AM
Bitcoin provides an inflation hedge for one obvious reason: unlike fiat currencies, the supply is limited. Bitcoin is limited to a maximum of no more than 21m. Precisely because there is no central bank in the digital currency world, it is unlikely that bitcoin will lose value if it is pumped into the market like a currency. The decentralized nature of Bitcoin makes it impossible for the decisions of some of the most powerful brokers to fundamentally change the value of Bitcoin holders.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Xampeuu on October 13, 2021, 06:26:24 AM
Bitcoin provides an inflation hedge for one obvious reason: unlike fiat currencies, the supply is limited. Bitcoin is limited to a maximum of no more than 21m. Precisely because there is no central bank in the digital currency world, it is unlikely that bitcoin will lose value if it is pumped into the market like a currency. The decentralized nature of Bitcoin makes it impossible for the decisions of some of the most powerful brokers to fundamentally change the value of Bitcoin holders.

Fiat currency is always printed continuously, so that inflation seems to be unavoidable from year to year. different from bitcoin which has a limited supply, so the price always rises and inflation is avoided. If inflation in fiat is not suppressed, it will be difficult for factory workers in particular, who every year have demonstrations demanding an increase in wages.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Kodok Bencot on October 13, 2021, 10:38:14 AM
The state has a policy to continue to print money so that the amount of money continues to grow, this happens in all countries that use paper money, because the amount of money that continues to grow makes the value of money decrease or inflation, the easiest way to deal with inflation is to put money in various types investing and bitcoin are the options I recommend.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: DOH! on October 13, 2021, 01:06:39 PM
We will trust, use deflation mechanism, specifically bitcoin halving or some defi platform that is scaling the appropriate factor to break inflation in reality.  Although, theory would be easier than implementation.  The market reaction is getting bigger and bigger to the increasing value of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.  That shows the right angle of bitcoin and increases the pressure on the process of printing money mass and steadily year after year.  Until the fiat is too much to burn, that's an outcome


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Gyfts on October 13, 2021, 01:10:20 PM
https://www.businessoffashion.com/news/global-markets/container-shipping-rates-from-china-to-us-continue-to-soar

This article is old but I found this recently - the global markets are having a rough time just because of the shipping bottle necks that're happening across the world, so inflation isn't isolated to whatever country you're from, this is a global issue.

So fiscal policy isn't going to help the price increases on goods, and the shipping increases are a price everyone's going to have to pay regardless of whether it's in fiat or crypto - but the point is, the issues are being compounded by irresponsible spending. Countries are creating an optimal environment for currency inflation, despite what's going on in the global supply chain.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Kadal Ijo on October 13, 2021, 01:45:33 PM
Inflation always makes it difficult for me because I only rely on a monthly salary at the office, but after I attended several seminars on wealth development I found the best way to immediately enter the safe zone, namely investing immediately, initially I invested in stocks, mutual funds and others, but because of the increase a small profit makes me make crypto as the main investment even though every month only invest around $50-$100.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: perfect999 on October 13, 2021, 09:58:09 PM
Easiest way is gold, hardest way is crypto. This doesn't mean that the most profitable is gold and least is crypto, on contrary it means gold is easy because you get to beat inflation but also you do not earn much above it neither, whereas if you buy crypto you may even lose money let alone win money however it is not going to be something that you could earn just the inflation but also much much more than that. We have heard stories of 100x, I have even seen it with my own eyes as well.

However what we have managed to miss during that same time is that how hard that is, because many people saw it and believed it would be easy. So with gold you make little but beat inflation and happy and easy, with crypto it is hard and difficult but you may end up with a lot more money.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: carlfebz2 on October 13, 2021, 11:10:18 PM
Easiest way is gold, hardest way is crypto. This doesn't mean that the most profitable is gold and least is crypto, on contrary it means gold is easy because you get to beat inflation but also you do not earn much above it neither, whereas if you buy crypto you may even lose money let alone win money however it is not going to be something that you could earn just the inflation but also much much more than that. We have heard stories of 100x, I have even seen it with my own eyes as well.

However what we have managed to miss during that same time is that how hard that is, because many people saw it and believed it would be easy. So with gold you make little but beat inflation and happy and easy, with crypto it is hard and difficult but you may end up with a lot more money.
Its situational and decisions would be made out will really vary according to their own target or goals with their money and some do stick out on something that had been in traditional like gold and yes earnings might

really be less but they do mind off about the legality and less volatileness of this precious metal rather than on considering crypto but  there are those people who do love to play with fire and risk out on putting

assets on crypto on saving up themselves towards inflation? It isnt really that fitted into the criteria but we know the chances of making more profits if it turns out to be good.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: bussybuddy on October 14, 2021, 03:00:58 AM
Bitcoin provides an inflation hedge for one obvious reason: unlike fiat currencies, the supply is limited. Bitcoin is limited to a maximum of no more than 21m. Precisely because there is no central bank in the digital currency world, it is unlikely that bitcoin will lose value if it is pumped into the market like a currency. The decentralized nature of Bitcoin makes it impossible for the decisions of some of the most powerful brokers to fundamentally change the value of Bitcoin holders.

Fiat currency is always printed continuously, so that inflation seems to be unavoidable from year to year. different from bitcoin which has a limited supply, so the price always rises and inflation is avoided. If inflation in fiat is not suppressed, it will be difficult for factory workers in particular, who every year have demonstrations demanding an increase in wages.
We are still looking for a radical change in the future. And bitcoin is one of those cases where we see a good technology in financial applications and beyond. Inflation is also an inevitable part of other financial market areas and in my opinion it is important to take advantage of that to ensure what you deserve.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Sithara007 on October 14, 2021, 03:37:07 AM
Inflation always makes it difficult for me because I only rely on a monthly salary at the office, but after I attended several seminars on wealth development I found the best way to immediately enter the safe zone, namely investing immediately, initially I invested in stocks, mutual funds and others, but because of the increase a small profit makes me make crypto as the main investment even though every month only invest around $50-$100.

Stock markets have also gone up by 40%-50% this year, which neutralizes the impact of inflation to some extent. Cryptocurrency has gone up by almost 100% since the start of the year. Given this, people are not much worried about the impact of inflation. Because even after the tax cut, their returns are higher than the inflation rate. People will be worried about inflation, only if their net returns are lower than the inflation rate and this will happen once the stock market or the real estate market crashes.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: GubiMixa1292 on October 14, 2021, 10:39:52 PM
The problem of non-inflation is one of the dilemmas of many countries and projects today, that's why it is constantly proposed many plans to minimize inflation, But I have analyzed the data and history of Bitcoin, Bitcoin has proven to give us the best profits today so inflation or not is also partly influenced by investors they are willing to buy. and keep it long or not or keep dumping and killing the coin.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Wawa2013 on October 14, 2021, 10:54:08 PM
Inflation always makes it difficult for me because I only rely on a monthly salary at the office, but after I attended several seminars on wealth development I found the best way to immediately enter the safe zone, namely investing immediately, initially I invested in stocks, mutual funds and others, but because of the increase a small profit makes me make crypto as the main investment even though every month only invest around $50-$100.

Stock markets have also gone up by 40%-50% this year, which neutralizes the impact of inflation to some extent. Cryptocurrency has gone up by almost 100% since the start of the year. Given this, people are not much worried about the impact of inflation. Because even after the tax cut, their returns are higher than the inflation rate. People will be worried about inflation, only if their net returns are lower than the inflation rate and this will happen once the stock market or the real estate market crashes.

Actually, as long as we still use fiat for daily transactions, we will definitely be affected by inflation and that is unavoidable. Therefore I agree with
your explanation, we do not need to worry about the impact of inflation as long as net returns are higher than the inflation rate. Our job is actually
to find ways to increase our income, be someone who really knows how to make a profit. That way we won't panic about the rising inflation rate,
because our net returns also increase higher.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: breathlessz on October 15, 2021, 03:59:52 AM
Inflation always makes it difficult for me because I only rely on a monthly salary at the office, but after I attended several seminars on wealth development I found the best way to immediately enter the safe zone, namely investing immediately, initially I invested in stocks, mutual funds and others, but because of the increase a small profit makes me make crypto as the main investment even though every month only invest around $50-$100.

Stock markets have also gone up by 40%-50% this year, which neutralizes the impact of inflation to some extent. Cryptocurrency has gone up by almost 100% since the start of the year. Given this, people are not much worried about the impact of inflation. Because even after the tax cut, their returns are higher than the inflation rate. People will be worried about inflation, only if their net returns are lower than the inflation rate and this will happen once the stock market or the real estate market crashes.

Actually, as long as we still use fiat for daily transactions, we will definitely be affected by inflation and that is unavoidable. Therefore I agree with
your explanation, we do not need to worry about the impact of inflation as long as net returns are higher than the inflation rate. Our job is actually
to find ways to increase our income, be someone who really knows how to make a profit. That way we won't panic about the rising inflation rate,
because our net returns also increase higher.
right, moreover inflation is certainly felt by everyone, while our task is to find income that is greater than the increase in inflation, we are lucky to be introduced to bitcoin, so that we can be free from inflation, we can even diversify our profits to other assets, at a rate different risk


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Ngemmeng on October 15, 2021, 04:06:21 PM
Bitcoin provides an inflation hedge for one obvious reason: unlike fiat currencies, the supply is limited. Bitcoin is limited to a maximum of no more than 21m. Precisely because there is no central bank in the digital currency world, it is unlikely that bitcoin will lose value if it is pumped into the market like a currency. The decentralized nature of Bitcoin makes it impossible for the decisions of some of the most powerful brokers to fundamentally change the value of Bitcoin holders.

Fiat currency is always printed continuously, so that inflation seems to be unavoidable from year to year. different from bitcoin which has a limited supply, so the price always rises and inflation is avoided. If inflation in fiat is not suppressed, it will be difficult for factory workers in particular, who every year have demonstrations demanding an increase in wages.
a bank will definitely print money according to the inflation rate in that country, so the bank will not print money excessively which can cause the inflation rate to increase. The cause of inflation is not only because too many paper money is printed, but also many other factors that cause inflation.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: paxmao on October 15, 2021, 10:29:38 PM
I am afraid that what you call the Yield Curve is mostly related to fixed yield gilts such as bonds and the like. These, as of now do not protect you at all against inflation. It is much more likely that you will be loosing sometime even more since some of these have actually negative yield. There has been times in the future where that was true so the book is old?


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 16, 2021, 01:49:00 PM
a bank will definitely print money according to the inflation rate in that country, so the bank will not print money excessively which can cause the inflation rate to increase. The cause of inflation is not only because too many paper money is printed, but also many other factors that cause inflation.

Well, in the case of Venezuela that premise does not exist, the more they can print money for the government to obtain liquidity, in fact inflation has been so high that they have had to remove 6 zeros because the ceuntes of numbers were too long and these were not. they fit into sales and purchase contracts.
For me, the best way to protect myself from inflation is by having strong FIAT money, such as Euro, Dollar, buying Gold, investing in Real Estate and investing in Bitcoin, for the rest due to the most extreme situation of inflation such as that of Venezuela, people already see this without solution from the point of view of traditional economy.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: darewaller on October 16, 2021, 05:59:44 PM
Actually, as long as we still use fiat for daily transactions, we will definitely be affected by inflation and that is unavoidable. Therefore I agree with your explanation, we do not need to worry about the impact of inflation as long as net returns are higher than the inflation rate. Our job is actually to find ways to increase our income, be someone who really knows how to make a profit. That way we won't panic about the rising inflation rate, because our net returns also increase higher.
Depending on what your income is and where you are getting in. For example I have been getting my income from crypto for a long time and I do care about how life got super expensive but I am capable of paying it a lot better recently. Inflation got super high but my income got high as well thanks to bitcoin going up in the past 2 years. This is why I am quite happy with what I am making and I am richer even though there is a horrible inflation in my nation.

It is really not something that important as long as your income is getting bigger faster than inflation. That way you may lose 10% because you are losing a lot more money compared to what you used to pay but you are making 50% more than what you used to make. This is why I believe that crypto is the way to get out, even if you are spending fiat, you are making crypto and that is something profitable.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: South Park on October 16, 2021, 11:29:12 PM
All the means that have been mentioned in this article are all good for saving yourself from inflation, but the levels of what you will be gaining from it differs for each of them. From the list we have here I have only invested in gold and cryptocurrency.

The first investment I had in gold wasn’t an investment I made myself, it was a free gold that was given out to me by someone as a gift. Then As for cryptocurrency I was the one who personally chose to be investing in it, and as time goes on I discovered that cryptocurrency is a better choice for me than any other that I’ve seen so far, so most of my investments are now going into cryptocurrency and it has been a way for me to retain value.
And this is the correct way to go about this, we know that a storm is coming and it is a mistake to try to protect yourself from it once it has started, we need to do this before it does and one of the best and easiest ways in which can do this is by investing in bitcoin, however many people are not going to listen as they never believe something bad is going to happen to them, until it does, and that is when they will try to adopt bitcoin but at that point it will be too late to protect their wealth.
Investing in bitcoin is the best way i think to protect us from the rising inflation. We know bitcoin is a good way to generate profits as long as we also know what we are doing. Although there are still some people who remained to be skeptical because bitcoin is still very expensive and yet, you still have no assurance that you will gain profits in the end. But, if you know bitcoin well, you will definitely invest in it even its a high risk because you have the faith that it will give you bigger profits in time. Investing in gold is also a brilliant idea but don't expect that it will be as profitable as bitcoin because its really not. Through these, even if the inflation continues, you will no longer affected that much because the profits you will gain back is certainly much higher compared to other investments.
Bitcoin isnt a solution but it isnt also a bad decision or option for you to take when it comes on protecting yourself with inflation but always take consideration about that volatility risk which people should look upon whenever

on the time they do make out such decision but well you wouldnt know unless you do try because this had been always the case because any possible action to make would have corresponding risk.

So its a personal choice whether you do jump into this option or would stick out on what you do have in the past.
It is not a solution in the sense that even if we invest in bitcoin the inflation is going to continue to rise, however since it is not within our power to do anything about it and the ones that could do something about it like banks and governments do not want to take action then we need to do the next best thing and that is protect our capital from the inflation with hard assets, and there is little doubt in my mind that bitcoin is the best option that we have at the moment to do this.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Wawa2013 on October 17, 2021, 10:51:31 PM
Actually, as long as we still use fiat for daily transactions, we will definitely be affected by inflation and that is unavoidable. Therefore I agree with your explanation, we do not need to worry about the impact of inflation as long as net returns are higher than the inflation rate. Our job is actually to find ways to increase our income, be someone who really knows how to make a profit. That way we won't panic about the rising inflation rate, because our net returns also increase higher.
Depending on what your income is and where you are getting in. For example I have been getting my income from crypto for a long time and I do care about how life got super expensive but I am capable of paying it a lot better recently. Inflation got super high but my income got high as well thanks to bitcoin going up in the past 2 years. This is why I am quite happy with what I am making and I am richer even though there is a horrible inflation in my nation.

It is really not something that important as long as your income is getting bigger faster than inflation. That way you may lose 10% because you are losing a lot more money compared to what you used to pay but you are making 50% more than what you used to make. This is why I believe that crypto is the way to get out, even if you are spending fiat, you are making crypto and that is something profitable.

I've been investing in crypto since 2016, so I feel the benefits that crypto provides. Moreover, in the last two years crypto performance has
been extraordinary, my income increased quite significantly due to investment in some potential coins. This may make me less worried about
rising inflation, because the amount of my income is much greater than the increase in inflation. That's what you experience too, which is
where crypto saves your life, because crypto has already boosted your economy. That's why we really need to educate people to invest in crypto,
because crypto can be a source of income and solutions to overcome the increase in inflation that occurs every year.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: South Park on October 21, 2021, 09:50:46 PM
Actually, as long as we still use fiat for daily transactions, we will definitely be affected by inflation and that is unavoidable. Therefore I agree with your explanation, we do not need to worry about the impact of inflation as long as net returns are higher than the inflation rate. Our job is actually to find ways to increase our income, be someone who really knows how to make a profit. That way we won't panic about the rising inflation rate, because our net returns also increase higher.
Depending on what your income is and where you are getting in. For example I have been getting my income from crypto for a long time and I do care about how life got super expensive but I am capable of paying it a lot better recently. Inflation got super high but my income got high as well thanks to bitcoin going up in the past 2 years. This is why I am quite happy with what I am making and I am richer even though there is a horrible inflation in my nation.

It is really not something that important as long as your income is getting bigger faster than inflation. That way you may lose 10% because you are losing a lot more money compared to what you used to pay but you are making 50% more than what you used to make. This is why I believe that crypto is the way to get out, even if you are spending fiat, you are making crypto and that is something profitable.

I've been investing in crypto since 2016, so I feel the benefits that crypto provides. Moreover, in the last two years crypto performance has
been extraordinary, my income increased quite significantly due to investment in some potential coins. This may make me less worried about
rising inflation, because the amount of my income is much greater than the increase in inflation. That's what you experience too, which is
where crypto saves your life, because crypto has already boosted your economy. That's why we really need to educate people to invest in crypto,
because crypto can be a source of income and solutions to overcome the increase in inflation that occurs every year.
For many us the inflation is not going to be such a big deal as most of our capital is in bitcoin and if you have avoided to indebt yourself then you are in a great situation to resist the inflation that is coming, unfortunately we are a minority as people have taken no precautions in order to face the crisis that is coming and many are heavily indebted, and while it is regrettable that this is the case, it is as if they never learn as this is something that happens periodically.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: boumalo on October 31, 2021, 06:45:47 PM
-Gold
-Bitcoin
-Assets
-Learn skills and invest on yourself

Gold has not move up yet. It's not going down either around 1800USD/oz

When the FED and ECB show their hand and their dovishness, the price could sky rock to new ATH.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: 19Nov16 on November 01, 2021, 09:45:25 AM
Inflation is difficult to avoid and there is no other way than to increase income, there are many things to increase income and in my opinion the best is investment, the best investment option at this time is cryptocurrencies because it has proven to be very profitable, I have proven that by investing $100 then a month can profit up to 200% with how to buy new listed coins.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Mauser on November 01, 2021, 10:30:48 AM


Gold has not move up yet. It's not going down either around 1800USD/oz

When the FED and ECB show their hand and their dovishness, the price could sky rock to new ATH.

I noticed the same, im the past everybody said that gold is the perfect inflation protection. But is this still true today? For years now we had very low interest rates and the gold price was very high. And then the corona crisis also helped the gold price to remain. Is it really possible for gold price to keep rising with the inflation? Personally I am not trusting gold anymore and sold most of my commodity fund which holds 90% in gold and silver. It remains to be seen if the inflation will keep growing with more than 3% or stabilise again, and also which are the best assets against it. For me I try to position myself against rising inflation by lowering my cash at the bank and selling all short term investment with no real interest. Instead of buying commodities I will keep buying crypto currencies.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Abiky on November 04, 2021, 02:07:30 PM
Depending on what your income is and where you are getting in. For example I have been getting my income from crypto for a long time and I do care about how life got super expensive but I am capable of paying it a lot better recently. Inflation got super high but my income got high as well thanks to bitcoin going up in the past 2 years. This is why I am quite happy with what I am making and I am richer even though there is a horrible inflation in my nation.

It is really not something that important as long as your income is getting bigger faster than inflation. That way you may lose 10% because you are losing a lot more money compared to what you used to pay but you are making 50% more than what you used to make. This is why I believe that crypto is the way to get out, even if you are spending fiat, you are making crypto and that is something profitable.

Of course. It's all a matter of increasing one's income in order to battle inflation in the long run. Spending less and earning more would be the wisest decision you'll ever make to help protect your financial future. As a golden rule, always invest into scarce assets like Bitcoin and Gold. Only then, you'll be able to retain your purchasing power for years on end. Inflation is something we cannot avoid, since governments print more money in order to keep the economy flowing. It's all a matter of making the right decisions at the right time in order to avoid losses in the long run. I wouldn't worry that much about inflation, since crypto is already a solution to all of our problems. Just my opinion :)


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on November 04, 2021, 02:21:46 PM
I don't believe you can really protect yourself from inflation fully. You can try investing your money but during inflation you still have to buy things. And if you want to buy things you have to use the inflated currencies that by law you have to use. ::)

But then again, the issue comes from those currencies themselves. The government can't stop printing money ::) Thats why Bitcoin is not only deflationary but also will destroy the corrupt fiat system, taking all the unjust spending power and hidden tax thievery away from the governments.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: nur rochid on November 05, 2021, 03:51:08 PM
to protect from rising inflation, of course something must have an increase in value contained in it, as well as cryptocurrencies that are free of inflation, because the price increase will be higher than the inflation rate that occurs. therefore we must invest to secure our assets so as not to be consumed by rising inflation


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: micamica on November 06, 2021, 07:04:15 AM
Simple solution do investment wisely and weekly🕶️


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Joshapat on November 06, 2021, 04:01:18 PM
Inflation always creates problems for most people, this is because their income cannot increase following the rate of inflation, this is what makes us have to be active to invest so that we can overcome inflation.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: matchi2011 on November 06, 2021, 04:28:38 PM
I don't believe you can really protect yourself from inflation fully. You can try investing your money but during inflation you still have to buy things. And if you want to buy things you have to use the inflated currencies that by law you have to use. ::)

But then again, the issue comes from those currencies themselves. The government can't stop printing money ::) Thats why Bitcoin is not only deflationary but also will destroy the corrupt fiat system, taking all the unjust spending power and hidden tax thievery away from the governments.

And for sure that's the thing the government will not want to happen. They will impose rules to make sure that
Bitcoin will not succeed. They don't want to lose control with the financial aspect of their government. They need
to make sure that everything will continue to be the same.

On the people's side, it's better to have both crypto and fiat, same way you do with your fiat investment, adding
bitcoin will help you to have better chances of great success.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: Abiky on November 13, 2021, 02:14:53 AM
I don't believe you can really protect yourself from inflation fully. You can try investing your money but during inflation you still have to buy things. And if you want to buy things you have to use the inflated currencies that by law you have to use. ::)

But then again, the issue comes from those currencies themselves. The government can't stop printing money ::) Thats why Bitcoin is not only deflationary but also will destroy the corrupt fiat system, taking all the unjust spending power and hidden tax thievery away from the governments.

Bitcoin is the best option available to help protect yourself from inflation. The fact that it's decentralized, makes it the perfect sound money the world has ever seen. Like it or not, Bitcoin has increased considerably in price over the years outmatching Gold in every way. You'd get more purchasing power with Bitcoin, than you'll ever do with Gold. By putting some of your money into Bitcoin, you'll be able to help secure your financial future. I wouldn't worry about inflation as long as crypto/Blockchain tech exists. Just my opinion :)


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: jossiel on November 13, 2021, 04:20:26 AM
Inflation always creates problems for most people, this is because their income cannot increase following the rate of inflation,
It's a problem that will stay forever, no one can escape the problem of inflation and that's why you have to act on your own of heding against it and defeating it.

this is what makes us have to be active to invest so that we can overcome inflation.
Yep.

The solution to solve against inflation is to invest in many investments and hold assets that will continually give you defeat inflation which will make your assets grow.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 14, 2021, 12:32:11 AM
Inflation always creates problems for most people, this is because their income cannot increase following the rate of inflation, this is what makes us have to be active to invest so that we can overcome inflation.

That can be a solution, the only thing is that when you are in a totally inflationary ecosystem to be able to look for a share if you are going to buy them with local currency, it is something very expensive, unless you raise a lot of money and can change to a strong currency, just as the dollar or the Euro is, to be able to make such an investment, and yet there are many entrepreneurs who only get ahead when in reality they meet a need of the general population and it is very difficult because generally there are already people who are starting To cover those needs with your business, then it is possible to start with business ideas that may be a little crazy but that can give results, it is a matter of trial and error.


Title: Re: How to protect from inflation?
Post by: inashed on November 16, 2021, 02:55:12 PM
A JOKE solution is quickly get your money and spend everything into food and eat this food you brought.

Imagine a bag full of popcorn, this bag full of popcorn has a price, now imagine magical bag that has popcorn inside it, and as you eat this popcorn new popcorn start to magically appear inside this bag. This second bag have will be more expensive.

This means that the price of a non-magical bag full of popcorn already take into the fact that this item is a consumable.

By spending all your money into food and quickly eating it, you make sure you dont lose value by your money losing value, because you throwed this money at someone else lap, and the thing you brought dont lose value because its a consumable and the price of the thing is already influenced by it.