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First of all, I want to say I'm not complaining about the merit system or the authority for not making me earn more merits.
Secondly, The grin icon due to the fact i stumbled upon a few merit-related topics, and the majority of them were complaining about removing the merit system!

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To the Second point- Removing the merit system as Theymos said "It'll be disastrous to the forum in many ways"
One of them being newbies having an easy time ranking up in a month and a half and promoting their Bounties through the signature campaign without any hassle.

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Now people like me have a lot of activity but unable to earn merit even after trying my/our best to write High-Quality posts, I mean in everyone's eyes their posts are high quality TBH.

In case my Posts aren't good enough to receive merits then can someone suggest to me how do I improve my chances of getting merits and Getting a higher rank on the forum for one of the reasons being having perks of getting into campaigns that accept higher ranks, Or Having higher ranks to get paid more for the current campaign(s).

Can someone review my Posts and Point out Drawbacks in my posts as to what's the cause because I'm unable to find it even after searching for it,

Everyone's opion would be helpful if it advances my chances for getting good sums of merits for my posts.

Thank you

Most of your is just a reply to others post so your best chance to earn merit for doing that post is hoping that user you replied will appreciate your reply. The easiest to earn merit is to create an informative and helpful thread that not yet existing or the old thread is not updated anymore.

Try to browse on user that gather a lot of merit and have a look on how they create post.

Quality post and quality replies can help you earn merit too.Try to do something unique and special,it will help in boosting your merits.Also make research on your own to know latest issues.If you are able to adhere to these,you will see the merits coming without you expecting it.

For me, the best way to earn merit was pointed long ago by some user who I have forgotten the name of. They said that you could qualify for a merit if you have a quality post, interesting and witty post or you contributed something really important to the forum.

Ok I looked at your posts a bit and honestly your posts are quite short and don’t give much useful information to others.
Personally, I give merits for posts that contribute to this forum with new information, some experience or good idea.
Please understand that there are a lot of members and posts on this forum and the number of available merits is quite limited, so in a way there is a lot of competition in this regard.
Study a bit the posts that were awarded with merits and it will be clearer to you why those posts got merits and your posts did not.

Is that a direct quote from Theymos?  It could well be, but I don't remember him writing that (though it's quite possible I either missed the quote or forgot it altogether).  As to the second sentence above, the merit system doesn't just make it more difficult for newbies and bounty shitposting, it also makes it waaaay harder for account farmers to even exist.  When you need merits to move your way up the ranks--as opposed to just time and minimal posting, as it was in the pre-merit system days--you'd have to have an almost infinite amount of patience, time, and writing skill in order to take just 3 accounts from Newbie rank to Sr. Member.  

Back before the merit system, I caught a member with at least 5 accounts he was ranking up (cryptomorphine/cryptoheroin/cryptopussies/etc.), and I've no doubt there were other account farmers who would rank up far more than that all on their own.

You've been on the forum for quite some time--or so it would seem, anyway, even though you haven't made a lot of posts given how old your account is.  How did you miss all the threads asking this very same question?  Anyway, since you happened to stumble upon posts by members complaining about the merit system, maybe you should look in Meta for all the threads asking "How I earn meritz?"--because there are a lot of them, and the answers basically never vary.

I would be happy to review your posts, and I even encourage members to PM me asking me to do so.  However, right now I'm extremely low on sMerits and may not be able to give you many even if you've made posts that are worth meriting.  If I find I'm unable to give you merits because I don't have enough to give, I'll bookmark your post history and will come back to it when my source sMerits are replenished.

Somehow I suspected that, but I'm going to have a look for myself anyway.  Why is it that when members start threads like this, they often make their longest and best-thought-out post in the OP?  It's because they're merit fishing, that's why.  And yet I'm still going to review his post history in spite of being prejudiced by your post against him (which is probably true).

Quick edit:  His posts aren't that short, nor are they as bad as I was expecting.  Going to bookmark his post history to review later, since I have 0 source sMerits and 0 earned sMerits.  Theymos, help me out!!!!!!!!!!

Being here for around a year and I've noticed that your posts don't have to be high-quality to be meritted. They have to be either useful or funny, but not necessily high-quality. You don't make a person click the merit button unless they've been helped by you or they've found your post hilarious. You should think it in another way; why would someone reward you from proving your english's knowledge?

Just a friendly tip; preview your post or just reread what you write. Don't expect from someone to merit you while you're showing your careless writing.

I looked at a few pages of your post history, and the first problem I detect is that about 35% of your posts are in Games and rounds, and as far as I know that board is not exactly part of the forum where you can expect merits. Furthermore, I notice that some, so to speak, somewhat good posts are buried in some mega-threads, and you can hardly expect anyone to find your post on page 9 of someone's thread - and that after all these answers you will write something meaningful and original.

I don't want to give you advice to be what you are not, in the sense that you force yourself to post in boards that don't suit you according to your knowledge - but I can tell you that it's completely wrong for you to hunt merits, and in fact merits should find you. My advice to you is to find a few members who have earned a lot of merits, to study their posts and try to find the best way to become a better poster - we all learned from someone and we were all beginners at one point.

No, Theymos mentioned something like it'll be damaging to the forum if he did that, I'm 75% sure that the Newbie problem was indirectly mentioned there.


At that time merits weren't the problem i was making enough money from my other main IRL business and wasn't active that much on the forum unless it's related to online gaming Topics, gambling, etc. But now due to Corona IRL business isn't that much active anymore and i'd be making as much as i could through side source incomes, One of them Signature campaign, tbh I didn't care about merits back then because i thought it'll come to me naturally, But it's true people don't merit posts in all the sections and don't read all the pages as Lucious wrote -

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If you're ok with me making a list of topics/posts I've made that I think are merit worthy and sending that list to you for checking their worth of receiving merits then i'll be happy with it,

Or I've come up with another solution that there should be a Topic with Sub-links to the Topics of users that contains their links to their posts that they think they deserve merits and that Main thread should be in meta so that members with enough sMerit resource can randomly select users from the Main-Topic list and give merits to the users.

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That's correct, It's a problem that people don't read every page of the topic and it's worse for people who write good stuff on page number 99.


IRL I do that same thing you're telling when someone asks me for advice, I also don't tell people their shortcomings since no one is perfect and it's not possible for everyone to understand why you explain something so that could be another reason, But it's ok to guide someone to a direction by telling them honestly what's at the end of it (Which you did and I quoted next)



1. Well I'm not begging for merits or complaining about the system but I'm just curious how can I post effectively to be worthy of earning merits, not fishing them, or maybe iI am ;D
2. Well yes, I'm looking for some members that earn lots of merits, I'll post the details on the thread later after doing enough research.

No, don't go through all that effort--I've bookmarked your post history page, so when I get some sMerits I'll revisit it and take a look.  I merited your last post, because you obviously put a lot of effort into it, and that's something I look for when deciding whether or not to merit a post.  It isn't just the length; you obviously took a decent amount of time to write all of that.  How do I know that?  Because I make similar posts and know you can't just crank out ones like that at a rapid-fire rate.

As an aside, I did just receive a few source sMerits (though not that many), so I'll look at your posts later on today.  Sound good?  And if you want another post history review, drop me a PM no sooner than one month from today and I'll be happy to oblige.

I also feel the same way when you put your effort in doing something might be helpful but in the end, it didn't get recognized or seen. I have experienced it myself and because of the thread called unmerited good posts then the previous thread I made got merited. If it didn't exist I wonder what it would be. We can't blame others for their definition of good posts or high quality posts as each snd everyone have their own criteria of giving reward (merits).

Yesterday, in another thread on support for rank up, I liked one post that said:

You're doing the right OP. You are not like those newbies who, by hook or by crook, beg for merits. Your posts may well be deserved, including posts written with humor.
Make a name for yourself, feel free to create threads. Just look around, many younger than you on registration have already fulfilled all their standards for a long time, being able to present themselves correctly.

The thing with attention is, In my childhood, I was seeking a lot of attention and was bad at jokes...I mean very bad unless it's observational humor.
Then in later life, I stopped caring about attention and i was getting lots of attention when I didn't want it!, it's strange when I had a thought about it.

After some time attention became annoying and I was used to Death Stare people away because they'll expect something from me obviously as it has been till now and I'm bad at refusing @least IRL to the people I know, Fuck the sob story....  ;D

Then I came to know about Occult [Sounds/Vibrations/Mantras that affect certain parts of your body] and found it to be true through experience by experiencing Consciousness, Energy moving within chakras inside the Spine, It was basic meditation on the pineal gland but then i did something wrong with the energies and stuff some stuff happened... (Which is another story)

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So attention, I dislike it even today and it's very easy for me to make friends IRL, I can talk about the majority of the subjects and it sucks when people ask for advice and can't do it on their own, They ask specifically "What I should do", how in the world should i tell you what you should do??, If you weren't able to do the task then you'll get yourself into trouble and i'll blame myself for suggesting something to you that you can't do.

So seeking attention for fun is go go but when someone tries to get close to you because they like you're able to get attention easily then it's a no no.

Wow, I wrote that BS above while talking to me and the mess is so big for me to press the post button thinking, "What the others will say" then I'll think after some time,
Whattt I'mm Gonna Doo [Ft. Carlos Matos] , But then since I'm anonymous I'll continue posting B.S thoughts I've in my brain atm.

Here's a thread of Carlos Matos i happened to create a week ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344296.0
Enjoy the Songs  ;D

Removing the merit would be a disaster because it can easily be abuse by the members and It is a big issue in the forum in the past years, because members can easily rank up a lot of members abuse signature campaigns and bounties here in the forum.

There was no guide about how to earn merits since the merit needs to be given by some other members here in the forum, You cannot guarantee merits even though you have a high-quality post. Some of your posts are posted in sections where merits are not commonly given like games and rounds, off topics, etc. so I guess you could focus on other sections where you help members like Beginners & Help.

The best way to do it is just to continue your journey in cryptocurrency and then share your experiences and answers some questions here in the forum in that way you are helping the forum to grow and at the same time, your gonna have a high chance of getting merits.

Honestly, I think if you are following up on the forum, like reading threads, I think even if you have been making overlooked quality post, your spent time on the forum should avail for you, like you connect with threads on the forum, some of which can earn you merit, when you are active, so I don't know what you have been doing so far, but it's one thing to see you deserve merit, and another for potential meriters to think you actually do.
I won't lie to you, and if you have been in here, and actively you should know, this post won't be digested well by many, don't hit the accelerator to your crash by trying to make merit post such like this.

How come did you get to Senior Member rank and yet don't know how merit are gotten? I advice you read through the forum rules again.

IMO the required amounts in order to rank up are a bit on the high side.  The amount of merit required to rank to the next rank is 1, then 10 (10x), 100(10x), 250(2.5x), 500(2x), and finally 1000(2x).

I think the amount required to become a full member is probably too high, and if it were to be adjusted down while keeping the multipliers consistent to achieve higher ranks were to remain the same, the merit system would be improved.

The unmerited good post thread is pretty helpful in making the merit economy in this forum much more active and more diverse plus the Merit Sources will have their time cut short in terms of looking for a good post since they can just stay in that thread.

Well yes but if someone manages to make it to 200 merits then they are pretty good with writing posts that others think are helpful to the community, and it’ll be easy for them to advance in ranks since they’re already in radar of the people who merited them before.


Yes that would be good in climbing the ranking ladder, but like i said above if someone manages to make certain amounts of merits then their probability of getting more increases because they know what kind of posts leads them to earning merits in experience wise.

But I don’t think theymos will implement any changes to the merit system, I am sure he has already done the math as to how many rank ups are possible with present merit sources, if he does implement the change then i think he will reduce the refill merit amount to the merit sources.

I doubt drastic changes will be made to the requirements for ranking up. And it wouldn't be fair for those who had to put in a lot of effort to get from newbie to legendary to one day wake up and see an announcement that the legendary rank now requires only 500 or 100 merits when they had to earn 1000. Of course life isn't fair, but if we have a system in place, and it works, there is no reason to change it.

There is already plenty of drama regarding old legendary accounts who received enough airdropped merits to become legendary and then were never rewarded any sMerits by other members. But more drama would certainly increase the traffic. :o   

I sincerely hope that theymos is not considering reducing the amount of merit available for merit sources.
It seems to me that the need for merits is great and many merit sources do not have enough merit to reward every quality post.
I think it's important that there's always a balance between the number of merits available and the number of quality posts and right now I'm not sure if that's quite the case.
Of course, only theymos has all the data but obviously some merit sources are inactive and on the other hand we have a lot of quality applications for new merit sources here.
I personally hope that soon we will see new merit sources and that those who are inactive will be removed as merit source or at least have their number of available merits reduced.

It's not just Legendary rank, but we can discuss all the ranks that got airdropped merits, and then they didn't justify it in any way - which is the best indication that they would never be able to achieve anything in the current system.

It should not be forgotten that for some members all airdropped merits were not a fair move - because why did I get 1000 merits as a gift and someone has to earn them in a hard way? What people forget is the fact that the forum existed long before the merit system, and that the rules were completely different - so everyone was rewarded with the amount of merit for their current rank, which in some cases proved to be a justified move - anyone who earned at least as many merits as he received as a gift definitely justified his airdropped merits.

That user was right. If you do not post quality posts, your merit expectations will not be correct. You can contribute to the forum in different ways, and if your contribution is really beneficial to the forum members then you can get merit from the merit source.

So you have to make helpful posts according to your talent, and if those posts are acceptable then you can get more merit than you expect. There are many new members who are constantly contributing to the forum and they are getting the merit they deserve.

Already two pages of members advise you, how to do the best to get Merit, of course it all starts with hard work and sincerity.

With your sincerity and honesty in making this topic I give you (1).

Just a few reviews:
I think that Merit is like someone planting a young plant: planting, starting from seeds, watering, fertilizing, being cared for and does not escape the knowledge that someone has.
For that hard work will produce good and sweet plants/fruits.

You need to do the best of the best.

IMO if someone can get enough merit to become a full member (100) in a reasonable amount of time, they will eventually get enough merit to become a hero or even a legendary member without too much delay. The issue that I have seen is that some users are not able to rank up on a timely basis, so there are full members, and senior members with much more activity than needed to rank up to the next rank.

I'm just responding to this thread because of the caution or the topic sentence, it's obvious to the forum that the only possible measures a community user can earn a merit is through research and it's more especially been innovative to the community by creating a topic that is not related to any topic in the community that are meaningful and educative to bitcointalk old user and new users, the major reason while some people stay stagnant via earning merit here is the inability for them to be creative, creativity is the pathways of earning merit using Ratimov and Charles Tim as primary example.

I enjoy reviewing post history, it says alot about people. I just did to yours, you're not spamming that's all I can say but if you want to receive more merits then you have to do better than what you're currently doing, that's improve. I have seen what others have said so I'm choosing my words carefully to avoid repeating. I went through your merit record and found out I merited your posts in a board not many visit to look for meritable posts, that's to say if you keep writing merit worthy posts you'll receive them in no time irrespective of the boards.

Already you're recieving merits so you won't say your posts aren't been merited but if you need the large numbers of merits then you have show reasons for it, make very outstanding posts basically to pass knowledge to the community and the merit reward will come. Chances are, if you're just after the merits, it won't come your way.

When threads are been created, even without much thinking you can easily identify those topic that were just created for merit hunting, don't make such posts, make yours to either be informative, educative and not basic things overemphasize in a way to look very important.

worldofcoins :

Be meritorious, be lucky, be helpful, be informative, be this, be that, do this, do that. . . . . . .

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Today I feel like saying be yourself, and do not focus on earning merits, I had a taste and its really addictive.

Tomorrow I might mistakenly consider this as a merit-fishing gimmick.

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Are you the last of your kind?(this is a compliment so you can maybe do the same for me.)  ;D

I like an old post you made at the beginning of the 2017 runup.

I gave it a merit.

I also merited this thread.

You have earned some merits and there is the answer to your post.The merit system was introduced here on the forum by theymos to encourage the members to enhance their knowledge and post quality content and restricts members to abuse forum for posting anything which is not relevant and this has helped a lot seriously.Getting merits is not a tough task if you are capable of it like making quality posts and sharing your knowledge and thoughts with fellow members here.So follow the forum rules and try to make some threads sharing useful and new information and giving effective contributions to the forum which will help you to achieve your goal.I think you already have started the merit journey so try to keep it and try to contribute in healthy discussions as well.

Of course, he's the one and only Pharmacist we know hanging around ;D