Bitcoin Forum

    I think Bitcointalk forum doesn’t get nearly enough credit for its contribution to crypto adoption.
Firstly, Bitcointalk.org was created by Satoshi Nakamoto, the founder of Bitcoin. This factor alone gives the forum an edge over other communities. Research on the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto will forever be reference to the forum. Satoshi's last (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479) message is found on the forum and I believe that could be an Nft in the future as well as his other posts here. Yes I said it! I won't be surprised to find a compilation of Satoshi's threads being sold as nft.
     Also this was the first ever Bitcoin forum on the internet. If this was human history we would be the first men. The first  transaction (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1141#msg1141) was done right here on the forum, Laszlo Hanyecz spent 10,000 BTC at Papa John’s pizza for the purchase of two pizzas. This transaction is more famous than the forum itself. May 22 became world Bitcoin pizza day, celebrated in crypto communities. On blogs and article they refer to the forum as "the bitcoin community", I suspect this is part reason why there the forum is not very popular.
     I’m not saying the forum is perfect and cannot be improved or anything but I think we  deserve a lot more credit for contribution to the crypto space. All this could be used to attract more users to the platform.

I don't know if that's such a bad thing.  Since you're suggesting attracting more people to the forum; imagine if every one involved in cryptocurrency was an active user.  I doubt Bitcointalk.org could exist as a forum, and would have to take on the form of reddit or twitbook.  I'm not a fan of those platforms, which is why I'm here and thankful for the forum's existence.

Although I tend to agree with you that the forum doesn't get the credit and recognition it deserves.  Obviously it's the most significant repository of Bitcoin's history, so it does strike me as odd.  It's especially obvious during Pizza Day when many main stream media outlets discuss the first publicly-known real-world bitcoin transaction.  The forum is rarely mentioned by name in those reports, and many articles glance over it simply as a chat site.

People might try to take advantage of the NFT trend and do it. What for? Their own benefits. If they do this, it is not because of benefits of the forum, satoshi or Bitcoin, just for themselves.

Imagine such NFT like how scammers run Ponzi, scam projects and try to connect Bitcoin to their scam campaigns.

I guess it is what you believe but you probably did not have any data to make this conclusion.

The NFT thingy with the with founders post Satoshi Nakamoto is a huge idea that could be exploit but then, it would be very wrong should just any user exploit this for personal benefit or even exploit it at all. It should be probably done by Theymos, that's if it should be done at all and it should be in a way that, some of the credit from its auction in percentage is always redirected to the forums treasury. It could be a thing, just as the cypher or crypto punks that meant virtually nothing transformed to mean something significant in NFT.

Well, the forum gets less recognition for sure. I virtually got all my crypto knowfrom here and yet, its a shame that, the forum isn't that much recognised.

Ah, NFTs are very overrated IMO.  I don't see the real value in them and certainly don't see why people have paid outrageous prices for them in the past.  And why would anyone in their right mind pay money for a collection of Satoshi's posts on bitcointalk when they could just create a compilation of them themselves?  It's not like they're some rare writings that have disappeared from the internet.

That is true, and it's still the best.  I think the only other competitor would be Reddit, and since they suck there's really no competition at all.  Even if you don't consider bitcointalk the "best" bitcoin forum, it would be hard to argue that it's not the most active one.  Sig campaigns and bounties continue to make that true, but it's true nevertheless.

And as far as recognition goes, I'm not so sure this forum doesn't get the recognition it deserves.  The one book I've read about the origin of bitcoin, Digital Gold by Nathaniel Popper, mentions it frequently in the beginning (and no, I haven't finished reading the book yet.  It's a slow process for me.).  I can't remember if the author mentioned the forum by name or not, but he clearly referenced it often.  In addition, just look at how many members we have.  There are millions of registered accounts, and while it might be true that a lot of them are bots or alts, the numbers have got to be quite high compared to other discussion forums that are focused on a single topic.

Reddit really is not a forum at least I think its more like a news sharing site where people can comment a small amount on their reaction instead of being a forum. The Bitcoin reddit community is not as in depth as Bitcointalk for sure and as a platform is very flawed because people can just create multiple accounts and upvote a certain agenda to get exposure. Bitcointalk at least does not have a broken upvote system.

I've met quite a lot of interesting people on Twitter that seem dedicated to building projects.  Not so much on reddit.  Twitter is a great place to discover projects of all kinds though.  You can search around long enough and find people with the same passion towards an idea that you may have and be exchanging instant messages in no time.  It's refreshing.  The platform isn't the best for working together with groups, but that's why things like Slack exist.  This forum has it's uses, but it's userbase of contributing members does appear to be shrinking and projects here that actually interact with the blockchain in some fashion are endangered on the way to extinct.

NFTs are considered digital art. Why does anyone buy art? I don't understand why they are so expensive btw. A lot of people are psyched about NFTs for one reason or the other. Jack Dorsey the founder of Twitter sold  his first tweet for just under $3 million. Crazy right?

I think the results have been pretty much expected. The people who know Bitcointalk are mostly the OGs, and the people who are aware of Bitcoin's history; with most newbies not knowing that Bitcointalk actually exists simply due to the fact that most people don't give a crap about history, and that they prefer using modern social media. The same reason how internet OGs know about the WorldWideWeb[1] browser while most people don't care about the past and just use modern alternatives.

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldWideWeb

I do agree that that recognition of this forum is rarely seen outside. However, I think it is because we don't need recognition from them. For those who are long-time crypto users or even the new ones, they will realize that this forum is already a gem waiting to be uncovered by people. All kinds of crypto tutorials, from mining to staking, creating a coin/token and so many other info, that you don't even find from dedicated crypto websites. We don't need promotion from outside but those who will find this forum, will find it like a treasure and treat it as a treasure.

theymos won't do that. He will not break his reputation to join NFT on behalf of satoshi or the forum.

Furthermore, the forum does not need money from donation so I can't imagine why he do this with NFT.

That is the fact that everyone who knows about bitcoin does not know about the bitcointalk forum. There so many people investing and trading but sadly they have no idea about this forum. There could be number of reasons for that but the main reason could be that bitcointalk is not been declared the official forum of bitcoin.

Perhaps the design of the forum is who drives people not to use it so many youth follow bitcoin news using social media.
The forum is good but signatures are what makes a lot of members continue and without them, many of them may prefer discussions in other places because they give them a lot of characteristics.

Generally, the forum is subject to who are looking for content and not a month or rapid rich so it  will not need promotion as long as there is high quality content.

I think the perfect question you should ask is, if the forum need that recognition? I believe the answer is no. Take a look at the decisions by the operator of the forum from day one, you will understand the forum careless about all the attention. The forum hasn't one done tired advertising itself, it is taking after its founder Satoshi, Satoshi created the project bitcoin and disappear which basically means he didn't want the attention that'll come from it been a success.

Bitcointallk was created to connect like mind and now has evolved into a learning ground for those interested in learning more about the technology Bitcoin and also an advertisment opportunity for start-up/project in the industry, that's enough impact/recognition in my opinion.

By the way this is a very sensitive forum that anything it does will have an interpretation to it. How do you think the community will react if your suggestions comes into reality (speaking of the NFT stuff). All those trends are distractions and the forum shouldn't lend a hand to that distraction. The focus should be bitcoin and its adoption.

But still the stats show that there is a lot of engagement for bitcointalk although the number of visitors per month are lesser as compare to the first quarter 2020.

https://i.imgur.com/KJfHztR.png

TBH I really dont get the whole NFT thing. I can understand buying Jack Dorsey's
first tweet f it has his verified signature attached to it. Art as well as expression
and the functionality of decoration a very small percentage is also an investment,
similar to cars, coins or any other RARE collectable.

Regarding Bitcointalk recognition, it definitely doesnt get the recognition it deserves,
and that recognition is immesurable really, Because of the wealth of information on
the forum which is accessable to the public even without membership anyone can pop
in and get the information they need. The forum is a massive resource.

Actually bitcointalk is losing its activities from my observation, lot of veterans completely vanished from this forum and only few left wjo were here from the beginning. Also emergence of lot of forums especially the social media is being the barrier as well but what can we do to increase the recognition? Nothing can be done because this is a place where we can gather knowledge about cryptocurrency upto date for that people need to be dedicated not the administration.

Without going into details, which is not the objective here, I’d take into consideration that there could be a stationary influence (summer time) in June´s reading (can't really tell when we’re only seeing a 6 month window with no historical view).

Additionally, just to state that we are seeing a measure (of some sort) of the number of visits, not visitors, being the definition they use of visits as follows:
See: https://support.similarweb.com/hc/en-us/articles/212999769-Total-Visits

The only stats related to the site I’d really trust would be those generated from within the site itself. The others are indicators that may show trends providing criteria is stable, but I would not trust their absolute values.

I think that xtraelv (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=897509)'s signature describe this forum perfectly.


There's some sort of misunderstanding about NFTs or I'm just the one who sees it differently. NFTs are typically like paintings which are made to be sold in the future. One could say that they're ponzi, because they're made to be sold in a higher price in the recent investors while the early ones earn the most.

Once you sell someone an NFT, you're signing the ownership of that creation. But, that's not as simple as it seems. There're probably copyrights involved. You can't sell Mona Liza if you don't own it. Hence, you can't sell a Satoshi's post, if you don't prove somehow that this is yours.

I’ve learnt more from this forum than I ever could from any book or seminar. When I joined this forum in 2014 I had something like 8BTC & kept them all on blockchain.info (now blockchain.com). The first thing I learnt from this forum (advice from other people here) was not your keys, not your bitcoin so I moved my coins from blockchain.info & started my own node by downloading Bitcoin Core.

I was young in 2014 & I didn’t know if I should stay with a low amount of coin or really go balls deep & start buying more regularly. Just by asking for advice & speaking to others I gained the confidence to start buying more coins very regularly. It became an obsession meeting certain round numbers, new targets for my stash constantly.
I didn’t know the price would go this high but finding this forum was the best thing that ever happened to me.

There are too many people to name but this place is truly legendary & it’s made me financially secure forever. I’ve met over 10 people from here in RL & become lifelong friends.

I can’t thank Satoshi enough.

We are a special community & nothing matches bitcointalk.org

Cheers to all of you!

And then I could sue them for selling a personal property. We're all that guy.

Here is to another 10 years of making people financially secure (I hope!)
If you look at NFTS they are clearly selling things that they do not own and are getting away with it.

I don't really understand what you mean by "doesn't get enough recognition" of crypto for the bitcointalk forum. If the number of registered users is the reason you say this forum is not getting the recognition it deserves, then you may be wrong, IMO. Bitcointalk.org is a forum that was born from the satoshi idea after bitcoin was created which basically becomes a place for the bitcoin community to discuss, discuss development projects and many other thing.

Cryptocurrencies other than bitcoin have also contributed a lot to the increase in the number of bitcointalk users over time through ICO, IEO, DeFi, and other fundraising processes. Although I don't have real data, I think cryptocurrency has brought a huge influx of users to bitcointalk.org with increasing interest in investing in altcoin which are mostly based on bitcointalk forum. The interest of users who register to this forum because of cryptocurrencies (altcoin) may be comparable to the interest of users who register because they want to know a lot about bitcoin. This is an invisible crypto credit to the bitcointalk.org forum in my opinion so bitcointalk.org traffic increases. So far the forum has had more than 3 million users who all have varied purposes such as developers, miners, investors, traders, gamblers, bounty hunters and many others. It is really the most useful site for bitcoin and crypto community on an international scale.

It is still possible that you will not agree with all of my opinion as these are based on assumption and my way of judging. Please correct for justification.

Yes and Bitcointalk was one of the reasons why Bitcoin is where it is today if you think back to when Bitcoin was originally created there was very little news and places for information on it. Bitcointalk was that hub of information that people needed. Bitcointalk likely contributed to the amount of developers we have now and was probably a big benefit of the altcoin sector too. Bitcointalk has influenced cryptocurrency as a whole. If you think about all the big names in Bitcoin why are they known and beloved? Gavin was active here and frequently engaged with the community just go check his posts. Satoshi engaged with the very first Bitcoin pioneers and people like HAL frequently posted here. Yet Bitcointalk is losing its members and it is rarely mentioned in news articles and Reddit.

Op you forgot to mention the term 'hodl' originated from bitcointalk forum. The slang caught like wild fire since then and is very popularly used when referring to buying bitcoins for long term gains.

The Treasure is here and we need to be lowkey. it's better to still stay the same and not to go boom to any social Media platform it'll just attract people who thinks crypto is not good for long run. I bet there are people here who still wants that 10,000 btc transaction  ;D ;D ;D nope, Just Kidding.  nice nice.

More new user means more scam, spam and less valuable contributions since most people invested on crypto are all wants pumps and gains that's why only few choose to use forum instead. The bitcointalk forum is doing right now compared when I start using it, Tons of shill and garbage post just to have a post for signature campaign. I've been using reddit for quite some time and it's a total chaos out there which you can't even made clear discussion compared here due to the volume of active user here. Being recognize doesn't mean the forum should be full of new user. As you can see, There still tons of new project using forum to launch there Bounty and Ann thread. That's is the real recognition for Bitcointalk.